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HisshouBuraiKen
02-10-2005, 05:13 AM
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Page 1 - Sidebar: I can't act like an adult! But we're steadily growing!
Title: 247 - Those who invade the sand!
Page 2:
Kakashi: Geez...you two really got stronger! I can't believe you actually got the bells.
Naruto: Hehe! I've finally surpassed Kakashi-sense!
Sakura: Whaat? Get over yourself!
Kakashi: Heheh...whatever...I'm still young. Plus, I've made an a-MAZING new jutsu, which is...
Naruto's stomach: GRUMBLE
Naruto: Oh yeah! I haven't been to Ichiraku Ramen since I got back!
Sakura: I'm pretty hungry myself, thanks to the training...
Page 3: Kakashi: That's the exact opposite of how he would have reacted back in the day...he used to be such a cute kid...
Nauto: Ok! We're gonna treat you, KAkashi-sensei!
Sakura: Hey! Senseeeee!
Kakashi: Sorry, but I've gotta make the new list of teams and read them off. Later!
Naruto: Ah! He left!
Sakura: I have a feeling he's going to go off and read that book...
Naruto: Hehehe...well, looks like it's just the two of us...
Sakura: Ok, but it's your treat!
Page 4
Sakura: SHIKAMARU! TEMARI-SAN! GUESS WHO'S HERE!
Page 5:
Shikamaru: Hey! Naruto!!
Naruto: Shikamaru!!
Temari: This...is that little kid?
Shikamaru: You just got back, right?
Naruto: Actually, I've been here since yesterday...
Shikamaru: Heh...so have you become less of an idiot? Something about you seems different...
Sakura: Noooo, he hasn't changed a bit!
Naruto: Sakura-chan...........
Shikamaru: Ah...Like I thought...I think?
Naruto: Hey, is she your date or what?
Page 6:
Shikamaru: Nope.
Temari: Stop joking...like I'd date this guy...The Chuunin exam is coming up soon and we're just here for a meeting between the Sand and Leaf.
Shikamaru: It's troublesome, but I've been put in charge of the exam. I guess you could say I'm seeing off the Sand's messenger, here.
Naruto: Chuunin exam, eh...that takes me back.
Shikamaru: Oh yeah! What're you gonna do, Naruto?
Naruto: 'Bout what?
Shikamaru: "About what," he says...the Chuunin Exam.
Shikamaru: You're the only one from our class who hasn't become a Chuunin.
The ONLY one.
Page 7:
Naruto: WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
Naruto: Then...then! Sakura-chan, yhou're a Chuunin?
Sakura: Yeah!
Shikamaru: Oh, and Neji, Kankurou from the Sand and Temari here are all Jounins.
Naruo: HUUUUUH?
Naruto: Ah!
Naruto: Gaara! What about Gaara?
Page 8: (OH HOLY SHIT)
Baki: Kazekage-sama. It is time for the meeting.
Gaara the Goddamn Kazekage: Gotcha.
Page 9:
Sand-guy: Our village's power has finally reached an equilibrium; the same level as the rest of the hidden villages, and prospered through trade with the other countries.
In addition, our new recruits have benefitted tremendously from our implementation of the Leaf's training curriculum.
Other Sand-guy: The chuunin exam is coming up...I'm looking forward to seeing it.
3rd sand-guy: But at the same time, I've heard a disturbing rumor...
Baki: What?
Page 10: Sand-guy: Jiraiya, of the LEgendary Sannin, informed me.
Have you heard of the organization known as "Akatsuki"?
Jiraiya: The Hidden Sand has been warned and is taking precautions. We've deployed ANBU to critical points around our perimiter. I'm strong, but I can't stop them from entering the country.
Kakashi: Why would Akatsuki make the fact that they're on the move obvious? What is their objective?
Jiraiya: I don't know, either.
I'm going off to gather information again.
Page 11: Let's conclude the meeting.
Sand-guy: Well done, Yuura. Getting him to make the order to tighten up the village's defenses.
Yuura: I've been working as a senior advisor for four years. Plus, if THE Jiraiya was the source of the information...It might seem prudent, but I decided we should move as soon as possible.
Sand-guy: What's the matter?
Yuura: Nothing...I just haven't been sleeping well lately...
Guy: Take care of your body.
Page 12: I see...that's how it is, eh...
Page 13:
Akatsuki (Skinny): Orochimaru should be a little further this way, according to that guy we killed.
Ak(s): Once he figured out our goal, he crapped his pants and ran away...figures...
Akatsuku(large): Doesn't matter. We don't know what he's like now that he's used that jutsu again...
Ak(s): You gonna be ok with just that bag?
AK(l): The enemy uses "The human pillar of strength".
Ak(s): My jutsu are all performances...I bought "Number 80" for this one...
Page 14:
Ak(s): "One tail"...yep.
Sand-nin: What the...?
Black cloaks with red clouds...they're...!
Page 15:
Sand-nin: Captain Yuura!
Yuura: Don't worry. We'll finish things quickly.
Page 16:
Ak(l): Well done...you remember us, right?
Yuura: YES! Of course, Sasori-sama!
Ak(s): Good. I might've had to use my jutsu if you didn't...and let my little subordinate jog your memory.
AK(s): Ready?
Page 17:
Hand: ::puking noise::
Ak(s): Master Sasori, you can just watch...
Ak(s): I'll attack from above the village.
Page 18-19:
Sidebar: The strange member of Akatsuki...his(her?) target is Gaara!
Ak(s): What do you think of the shape my performance has taken?
Sasori: Don't keep me waiting.
Ak(s): "One tail". Shukaku, the "Human pillar of strength." Gaara of the Desert.
Let's see what you're made of!
FIN
No "next week" teaser...could this mean no chapter? I hopeth not.
murmel
02-10-2005, 05:23 AM
At last :-)
Dark Naruto
02-10-2005, 05:38 AM
GAH such a place to leave off mid translation! :crying
EDIT: it occurs to me that original poster will update his original post, and this will be irrelivant, but he left off at
Naruto: Hey, is she your date or what?
Page 6:
EDIT #2: oh yeah, thanks! :D
EDIT #3: wtf? there are 130 people in the "konoha library" at the moment, and only me and one other guy have posted in this thread? it should be on page 3 by now!
Devu-sama
02-10-2005, 06:22 AM
Excellent! Thanx hisshou!
Omg does that mean that orochimaru might be in the sand village now? that Yuura guy's eye is very suspicious in a particular page (i think its 11 or 12)
HisshouBuraiKen
02-10-2005, 06:28 AM
Omg does that mean that orochimaru might be in the sand village now? that Yuura guy's eye is very suspicious in a particular page (i think its 11 or 12)
Umm...no, I think the little one was just commenting on the Orochimaru situation in general...probably standard Akatsuki small talk...
Arilou
02-10-2005, 06:29 AM
Heh
Anyone notice a pattern?
Before Itachi showed up Kakashi asked Kurenai if she and Asuma was going out with each other.
Kurenai denied it.
Now, before what looks like an akatsuki attack, Naruto asks Shikamaru whether or not he's going out with Temari. She denies it.
Obviously, PEOPLE GOING OUT WITH EACH OTHER BUT DENYING IT IS A SIGN OF IMPENDING AKATSUKI ATTACKS!
Reaver Reload
02-10-2005, 06:36 AM
Thanks for the translation! That is so whack about Gaara being Kazekage! He looks mad though. Poor Naruto, still a Genin. I wanna see another face off with Naruto and Akatsuki.
Rep for you, buddy. Good job =>
Itachimaru
02-10-2005, 06:40 AM
Obviously, PEOPLE GOING OUT WITH EACH OTHER BUT DENYING IT IS A SIGN OF IMPENDING AKATSUKI ATTACKS!
bitchslaps your ass!!!!!!
This different translation kinda gives a different look on things....Is this correct? OR was the other one better???
Greets
ZODDGUTSU
02-10-2005, 06:44 AM
lol ^ . :laugh
Hmm if Orochimaru is trying to get away from Akatsuki could Sasuke be with Orochimaru too?
Shinobi Kiwi
02-10-2005, 06:46 AM
Finally a translation of the Akatsuki conversation
rep for u
Mister Bushido
02-10-2005, 06:52 AM
Yeah, this translation definately changes a few things that have been mentioned in the other scanslation that was put out yesterday. To me, it seems more concrete, especially about the whole Oro deal. Heh, he crapped his pants.
HisshouBuraiKen
02-10-2005, 06:53 AM
To me, it seems more concrete, especially about the whole Oro deal. Heh, he crapped his pants.
I swear, that is LITERALLY what they said.
BandanaDan
02-10-2005, 07:04 AM
Wow! So Orochimaru has used that jutsu again? It can't be the immortality jutsu right, because Akatsuki would know what Sasuke would be like, and it aint been 3 years yet... nice translation though, makes much more sense now! *reps you*
Mister Bushido
02-10-2005, 07:13 AM
Wow! So Orochimaru has used that jutsu again? It can't be the immortality jutsu right, because Akatsuki would know what Sasuke would be like, and it aint been 3 years yet...
It's the "crap in your pants" no jutsu that they're talking about. :confused
GriffonKato
02-10-2005, 07:18 AM
hisshouburaiken thx so much 4 yer translation i love u
west blue
02-10-2005, 07:21 AM
Heh
Obviously, PEOPLE GOING OUT WITH EACH OTHER BUT DENYING IT IS A SIGN OF IMPENDING AKATSUKI ATTACKS!
such a weird sign :blink
nice observation, tho'. i didn't realize it before. :smile-big
Axass
02-10-2005, 07:40 AM
I love you Hisshou, your translation is much better... I'm never gonna read other guys translations again, the other one was so confusing and, my God, he mistranslated "master Sasori" with "my husband"... bleah... there goes my theory of Yuura being skinny's husband...
Hope Knives or someone else scanlates this.
Edit: Can't rep you right now but I will as soon as possible.
blue_angel
02-10-2005, 07:47 AM
Naruto: Hey, is she your date or what?
Page 6:
Shikamaru: Nope.
Temari: Stop joking...like I'd date this guy...
oh yeah...i do believe temari has no intention of dating shikamaru :cool
no chapter next week???NOOOOO! The story is soooo good! I can't wait for two weeks!
and hisshou, heehee, love you comment about gaara being a goddamn kazekage!
Axass
02-10-2005, 07:53 AM
Naruto: Hey, is she your date or what?
Just a question about that, since I'm a Naru/Saku fan, I heard that should be "Are you on a date too?" from two different guys, are you sure about that?
Hope you were wrong but I doubt it... >_<
No "next week" teaser...could this mean no chapter? I hopeth not.
Nah, I think it would be written if there was no new chapter next week.
MrBradMan
02-10-2005, 07:55 AM
Just a question about that, since I'm a Naru/Saku fan, I heard that should be "Are you on a date too?" from two different guys, are you sure about that?
Hope you were wrong but I doubt it... >_<
Nah, I think it would be written if there was no new chapter next week.
It's Naruto's thing... he thinks he's on dates with Sakura everytime they go out to eat.
Axass
02-10-2005, 08:03 AM
It's Naruto's thing... he thinks he's on dates with Sakura everytime they go out to eat.
I know that it would be a date only in Naruto's mind. But the fact that Sakura heard that without punching him into oblivion would mean something. Plus it would also mean that Naruto still feels something for Sakura even after those 2,5 years.
Jiraiya
02-10-2005, 08:09 AM
This is a really good translation by hisshouburaiken. Now I finally know what went on in page 12...
xinchu
02-10-2005, 08:15 AM
yeah...
thx!
oh, what is the 'uhing sound'?
saithan
02-10-2005, 08:25 AM
RESPECT! thanks for the translation :)
HisshouBuraiKen
02-10-2005, 08:27 AM
That should have been "puking sound" when the hand pukes up the little birdie.
Raikiri
02-10-2005, 08:32 AM
On page 13, she bought Number 80? Bought? Brought as in brought along? A typo?
I can't imagine Akatsuki going to the nearest Walgreens to buy their ultra powerful jutsus. :)
Awesome job Hisshou!!!!
Jyuuken
02-10-2005, 08:51 AM
Nicely done... thanks for the translations...
Jiraiya: The Hidden Sand has been warned and is taking precautions. We've deployed ANBU to critical points around our perimiter. I'm strong, but I can't stop them from entering the country.
I saw in another translation that this part seems to be... the sand have deployed their own ANBU to critical points around their perimeter, even jiraiya himself cannot force his way through...
On page 13, she bought Number 80? Bought? Brought as in brought along? A typo?
I can't imagine Akatsuki going to the nearest Walgreens to buy their ultra powerful jutsus. :)
Awesome job Hisshou!!!!
its more like something with 18...
caliboy
02-10-2005, 08:56 AM
its universal, if the guy pays its a date...j/k that's open to debate
thanks man for translating, i was so confused befoe about the akatsuki dialogue, in another trans it said one akatsuki was married to someone
Axass
02-10-2005, 09:04 AM
That should have been "puking sound" when the hand pukes up the little birdie.
What about the date, why aren't you answering me? >_>
caliboy
02-10-2005, 09:07 AM
im confused, naruto's gonna treat kakashi? that doesn't sound like my naruto
Arilou
02-10-2005, 09:07 AM
im confused, naruto's gonna treat kakashi? that doesn't sound like my naruto
He's probably been forced to pay for Jiraya the last two years and hence he's got used to it.
caliboy
02-10-2005, 09:14 AM
naruto makes everyone treat him, except sakura cause he's her b*tch
Naruto-1
02-10-2005, 09:25 AM
hey when does the chapters come out
cause it used to be every firday .... but now it seems to comeout mid week
Axass
02-10-2005, 09:29 AM
The raw usually comes out Wednesday/Thursday.
Kineas
02-10-2005, 09:30 AM
Good work as usual from Hisshouburaiken. :)
Now we finally know page 13 is saying. And I'm just getting more confused and curious at the same time.
Orochimaru's fleeing from Akatsuki somewhere in the Hidden Sand area.
So what's happening to his personal nin village, the Hidden Sound?
Where's Kabuto and Sasuke then? Fleeing with Oro, staying in Hidden Sound, or elsewhere?
He shouldn't have used the soul-transfer jutsu, since 3 years have yet to pass, besides, they should know what Sasuke looks like, (mini-Itachi with Sharingan) and Orochimaru's next target for the soul-transfer jutsu should be Sasuke.
Why are only 2 Akatsuki being sent after Orochimaru, when somewhere earlier in the manga their leader qouted that all 9 of them might be needed to overwhelm Oro?
If those 2 Akatsuki are chasing after Oro, why are they taking a break to attack/kidnap/kill Gaara?
It all doesn't add up.. I'll just await the next chapter.
Axass
02-10-2005, 09:35 AM
He shouldn't have used the soul-transfer jutsu, since 3 years have yet to pass, besides, they should know what Sasuke looks like, (mini-Itachi with Sharingan) and Orochimaru's next target for the soul-transfer jutsu should be Sasuke.
They 're probably talking of the last body he took (the one we saw), they don't know that either.
Kineas
02-10-2005, 09:41 AM
Axass: I thought of that too, but that'll be 2.5 years ago. And if they didn't know how Orochimaru looked like now in the first place, how could they have started pursuing him, much less all the way to Hidden Sand?
Chances are you're correct, :) but well, the way it's worded just kinda attracts speculation.
Violence Fight
02-10-2005, 09:41 AM
Walgreens: Proud sponsor of the Akatsuki since 1966.
brought along 80. Perhaps the "Ninjutsu" thats being spoke of is Alchemy? Or somethng of the sort. that would make sense. Brought along is a confusing line.
SaiST
02-10-2005, 09:44 AM
Great translation, few things in the 2nd half were made much more clear.
Many thanks, hisshou.
rikku
02-10-2005, 09:47 AM
this is getting very interesting!!! thanks for the translation!!! :D btw, do u think naruto will take the chunnin exam???? i mean, he can really kick all gennins' asses (by the look of it) :wink
let's hope the excitement can carry on for next week...kishimoto sensei!! DRAW kudasai!!!! :P
MrBradMan
02-10-2005, 09:54 AM
I know that it would be a date only in Naruto's mind. But the fact that Sakura heard that without punching him into oblivion would mean something. Plus it would also mean that Naruto still feels something for Sakura even after those 2,5 years.
Eh, I'd speculate it's because she's hungry, and would call it a date just to get Naruto to treat her. He did treat her right before Sasuke left the village. She needed to talk to him about Sasuke, so she met up with him near his apartment and said to take a walk with her, and that she'd call it a date. There's also the fact that she couldn't wait to tease him about being the only one from his class to still be a gennin.
On a sidenote, the only non-ninja who's in on all the happenings in Konoha has gotta be that ramen shop owner. He overhears all the guarded information everytime Naruto is there.
korican04
02-10-2005, 10:04 AM
I trust hisshou's translation more than other people mainly because it makes sense and doesn't have things like "this part is hard" but only has " can't read this crappy scan". He's translation also goes with what the 3 japanese doctors in my lab say if i ask them.
Jiraiya
02-10-2005, 10:11 AM
Heres the scanlation of 247 using hisshouburaiken's translation. (on my sig)
HisshouBuraiKen
02-10-2005, 10:20 AM
I know that it would be a date only in Naruto's mind. But the fact that Sakura heard that without punching him into oblivion would mean something. Plus it would also mean that Naruto still feels something for Sakura
I suppose one could interperet it like that, yes. It's not eactly a long detailed sentence, and there're a couple ways it could be translated. I don't really think it means much either way. Even IF Naruto THOUGHT he was on a date, Sakura obviously wouldn't.
Also, I screw up bought and brought all the time. It should be BROUGHT number 80. There is no alchemy.
Axass
02-10-2005, 10:32 AM
I see what you mean, thanks for answering me. I know it's probably pretty meaningless point but as a Naru/Saku fan I couldn't overlook that. ^_^
And thank you for Hisshou version terramare.
Dyroness
02-10-2005, 11:11 AM
Yay! Thanks for the excellent translation!
So, things are much clearer now... >_>
And the fact Orochimaru fled with Sasuke... ANOTHER Chinese script similarity.
I have two explanations:
- Orochimaru took Sasuke's body. If the Akatsuki knew Orochimaru got the Sharingan user's body and wouldn't be able to possess it in 3 years before the time skip, why would they mention he's got a new body again?
Then, it must be Sasuke's. The fact they don't know how the body is like now is probably because Sasuke must've changed over the years. Orochimaru was too eager to move on his plans.
- Something happened and Orochimaru had to delay the possession over Sasuke again. Maybe a flashback would clarify that. Or the simple fact he crapped his pants knowing of Akatsuki's goal.
Now, if demons are Akatsuki's goal, why would Orochi flee?
Because if we link that fact to the CHINESE FMB SCRIPT, Sasuke can awaken a youma inside of him. (Suzaku) And that would be why Orochi crapped his pants and didn't possess Sasuke.
That's all I have to say... >_>
korican04
02-10-2005, 11:13 AM
Yay! Thanks for the excellent translation!
So, things are much clearer now... >_>
And the fact Orochimaru fled with Sasuke... ANOTHER Chinese script similarity.
I have two explanations:
- Orochimaru took Sasuke's body. If the Akatsuki knew Orochimaru got the Sharingan user's body and wouldn't be able to possess it in 3 years before the time skip, why would they mention he's got a new body again?
Then, it must be Sasuke's. The fact they don't know how the body is like now is probably because Sasuke must've changed over the years. Orochimaru was too eager to move on his plans.
... >_>
Well they might not know what oro looks like when he took over that dude's body before sasuke came..... but if they he did take over sasuke's body then they would know what it looks like.
Kineas
02-10-2005, 11:20 AM
Dryoness: What's the Chinese FMB script about? The very detailed and thought-out *fanfic* that was originally touted as Chapter 245?
"Orochimaru fled with Sasuke" - I didn't see that in hisshouburaiken's translation. Mind pointing it out to me? :)
Logically, I thought that Oro still had to wait for 2 or 3 more months before he could use the soul-transfer jutsu again, if that 3 year timespan was set in concrete.
I had kinda an impression that if once Oro possessed Sasuke, he would be like, kinda pwning. So it's still a mystery to me as to why Oro's running away from 2/*two* Akatsuki members.
Dyroness
02-10-2005, 11:31 AM
Dryoness: What's the Chinese FMB script about? The very detailed and thought-out *fanfic* that was originally touted as Chapter 245?
"Orochimaru fled with Sasuke" - I didn't see that in hisshouburaiken's translation. Mind pointing it out to me? :)
Logically, I thought that Oro still had to wait for 2 or 3 more months before he could use the soul-transfer jutsu again, if that 3 year timespan was set in concrete.
I had kinda an impression that if once Oro possessed Sasuke, he would be like, kinda pwning. So it's still a mystery to me as to why Oro's running away from 2/*two* Akatsuki members.
Well, if Orochimaru actually fled from Sound, he would take Sasuke with him, if he didn't possess him already. OR, he left Sasuke alone? But then again, Akatsuki's objective would be trashed. >_> Too much speculation...
Kineas
02-10-2005, 11:37 AM
Dyroness: That was one big can of worms Kishimoto opened up in just one page. I'll be eagerly awaiting to see how he cleans up that mess. :)
On a side-note, the only speculation about Chapter 247 I've seen so far mostly revolves around Naruto and his (future) nin rank, and chunnin exams.
No one seems to have noticed Akatsuki and Orochimaru's mention in the chapter. :)
rubbereruben
02-10-2005, 11:51 AM
Page 8: (OH HOLY SHIT)
Baki: Kazekage-sama. It is time for the meeting.
Gaara the Goddamn Kazekage: Gotcha.
That alone would give you a rep.
Hisshouburaiken, your translations OWN. Thank you! :)
the 2 akastuki members are talking about "ichibi"(in this translation it's translated as "one-tail" and "hitobashirachikara"(in this translation "the human pillar strength).
"BI" is the counter for fish in Japanese.
"hitobashirachikara" is a made up of two words "hitobashira" - this word does not mean "human pillar" it actually means "human sacrifice" !+ "strength"
i believe (well i could be wrong!) that "tail" is used by the akatsukis to address the great demons they're trying to collect, hence "one tail" = one of the great demons;
and that Kishimoto uses the word "hitobashirachikara" (this word does not exist in Japanese, Kishi made it up by combining 2 words) to mean a demon vessal, such as Naruto and Gaara.
Gold Knight
02-10-2005, 12:29 PM
Thank you Hisshouburaiken. Your translations definitely are the best, bar none.
I'm still a newbie here. So this is the first rep I'll give ya of - hopefully - many more to come! :thumbs
EDIT: Okay, question. How the heck do I rep somebody?
2nd EDIT: Ah, alright, figured it out.
Raikiri
02-10-2005, 12:49 PM
Why are people shocked that Sakura demanded Naruto to pay? It's fairly common for pretty girls to use their looks to get free meals off guys. Guy asks out girl to lunch a couple times, she says sure, after a couple lunches, she finally reveals she already has a BF, guy says WTF, why're you eating lunch with me then??? Then guy realizes she's just mooching.
Kineas
02-10-2005, 01:00 PM
Raikiri: 2 reasons, actually.
1. They're NaruSaku fans eager to add another NaruSaku *moment* to their archive.
2. They've never mooched or been mooched before. :)
N1NJ4
02-10-2005, 01:06 PM
Yay! Thanks for the excellent translation!
So, things are much clearer now... >_>
And the fact Orochimaru fled with Sasuke... ANOTHER Chinese script similarity.
I have two explanations:
- Orochimaru took Sasuke's body. If the Akatsuki knew Orochimaru got the Sharingan user's body and wouldn't be able to possess it in 3 years before the time skip, why would they mention he's got a new body again?
Then, it must be Sasuke's. The fact they don't know how the body is like now is probably because Sasuke must've changed over the years. Orochimaru was too eager to move on his plans.
- Something happened and Orochimaru had to delay the possession over Sasuke again. Maybe a flashback would clarify that. Or the simple fact he crapped his pants knowing of Akatsuki's goal.
Now, if demons are Akatsuki's goal, why would Orochi flee?
Because if we link that fact to the CHINESE FMB SCRIPT, Sasuke can awaken a youma inside of him. (Suzaku) And that would be why Orochi crapped his pants and didn't possess Sasuke.
That's all I have to say... >_>
According to what we know, Sasuke is safe for another few months yet. I bet that when they say "We don't know what he's like now that he's used that jutsu again," they're referencing the fact that Orochimaru took the body of that prisoner.
*EDIT* Oops, already mentioned. :P
Chillin
02-10-2005, 01:06 PM
Why are only 2 Akatsuki being sent after Orochimaru, when somewhere earlier in the manga their leader qouted that all 9 of them might be needed to overwhelm Oro?
They were speaking of Naruto and Kyuubi, not Oro.
Oh thanks for the translation hisshou, things have been made quite a bit more clear to me now.
Also on there being no chapter next week I was wondering the same thing when I first looked over the raw.
Kineas
02-10-2005, 01:18 PM
Chillin: Oh. :) Thanks for clearing that up.
This sure does devalue Oro.. lol
Axass
02-10-2005, 02:14 PM
i believe (well i could be wrong!) that "tail" is used by the akatsukis to address the great demons they're trying to collect, hence "one tail" = one of the great demons;
Can't it be the simple fact that Shukaku has one tail? Are there any multitailed legendary demons in japanese legends? Two tailed, five tailed, etc... that would make sense together with the nine tailed Kyuubi, but I doubt anything like that is possible...
It would be too much of a coincidence if there was another 7 multitailed demons for Kishi to use in his manga...
1. They're NaruSaku fans eager to add another NaruSaku *moment* to their archive.
Like you would be for Sasu/Saku... ^_^
Pirazy
02-10-2005, 02:20 PM
They were speaking of Naruto and Kyuubi, not Oro.
Oh thanks for the translation hisshou, things have been made quite a bit more clear to me now.
Also on there being no chapter next week I was wondering the same thing when I first looked over the raw.
Actually, I believe they spoke about their "ultimate" goal, each team has specific tasks they need to accomplish before the 3 year time-limit is up, that's why Bat-Girl said that if they all successfully accomplished their assigned tasks the chance of them succeeding would increase, she made it sound like they could afford to fail some of the tasks, but the leader's comment implies that it will be impossible without the Kyuubi.
Kineas
02-10-2005, 02:38 PM
Can't it be the simple fact that Shukaku has one tail? Are there any multitailed legendary demons in japanese legends? Two tailed, five tailed, etc... that would make sense together with the nine tailed Kyuubi, but I doubt anything like that is possible...
It would be too much of a coincidence if there was another 7 multitailed demons for Kishi to use in his manga...
Too many demons spoil the.. broth. :smile-big
Like you would be for Sasu/Saku... ^_^
Nah. If it's there, it's there. No point sounding like an inane fanboy/girl trying to excavate for obscure hints that're barely visible.
Go for the whoppers. :P
Efraim Longstocking
02-10-2005, 03:28 PM
What makes everyone think that the akatsukimember is a girl? It looks like a guy to me... or maybe it's a queer like the juppongatana in rurouni kenshin with the scythe who looked like a girl and was in love with Shishio. (!)
Can't it be the simple fact that Shukaku has one tail? Are there any multitailed legendary demons in japanese legends? Two tailed, five tailed, etc... that would make sense together with the nine tailed Kyuubi, but I doubt anything like that is possible...
It would be too much of a coincidence if there was another 7 multitailed demons for Kishi to use in his manga...
well there are the kitsune, which are the foxes. and kitsunes can have 1 tail up to well unknown :P, but in japanese ledgends a nine tailed kitsune is considered very powereful. hence the changed name to kyuubi.
but who knows how many demons kishi is gona put in his manga. but i cant wait for the next chapter. we'll hopefully see gaara goodness :)
They were speaking of Naruto and Kyuubi, not Oro.
wow so when they said all nine of them should go work together, they were actually talking about naruto/kyuubi. i always thought they were talking about Oro_snake_head. Wow now their last sentence makes sooo much more sense.
thx for the clear up rep for u :D
What makes everyone think that the akatsukimember is a girl? It looks like a guy to me... or maybe it's a queer like the juppongatana in rurouni kenshin with the scythe who looked like a girl and was in love with Shishio. (!)
well the first translation found yesterday made the second akatuki look like husband and wife, which threw off many many fans. thats why.
Fox_Retainer
02-10-2005, 03:38 PM
Heh
Anyone notice a pattern?
Before Itachi showed up Kakashi asked Kurenai if she and Asuma was going out with each other.
Kurenai denied it.
Now, before what looks like an akatsuki attack, Naruto asks Shikamaru whether or not he's going out with Temari. She denies it.
Obviously, PEOPLE GOING OUT WITH EACH OTHER BUT DENYING IT IS A SIGN OF IMPENDING AKATSUKI ATTACKS!
I just read that. You get rep for that Arilou! :D
Asherah
02-10-2005, 04:38 PM
Thanks as usual for the trans =) I'm sure glad I took a look at your version. The conversation between the Akatsuki members gives us a lot to consider now. Mixed feelings about the way they talk about Oro...it's sort of good, because Sasuke has more chance of kicking his ass sooner if he's running from Akatsuki. And yet...if he sucks that much, how powerful will Sasuke get learning from him? Well. Knowing Kishi he'll be kickass no matter what happens.
And about if there's a chapter next week...well, there's no Bleach for sure. Would Jump really leave out two of the very popular series? I'm hoping not, but that's because I haven't had my look at Sasuke yet :P Show him already!!
Axass
02-10-2005, 05:21 PM
Nah. If it's there, it's there. No point sounding like an inane fanboy/girl trying to excavate for obscure hints that're barely visible.
Go for the whoppers.
I'm not a "NaruSaku fan eager to add another NaruSaku *moment* to my archive" neither am I an "Inane fanboy/fangirl trying to excavate for obscure hints that're barely visible". I wasn't even talking with you in the first place but with Hisshou, kindly asking for enlightment on a particular which is important for me, why don't you mind your own business instead than trying to make me look like fool? Do you like to start fights for no reason? :) (See? I'm able to say bad things adding a smile, like you!)
HisshouBuraiKen
02-10-2005, 09:19 PM
Akatsuki is referring to the fact that Orochimaru took that other dude's body, not Sasuke's. It's still too soon and it stands to reason that they wouldn't know much about his new form or abilities.
Plus, Orochimaru's no slouch in the strength department. The running might be more of a reference to his leaving the organization, but it makes sense that he wouldn't be hanging around the hidden sound if Akatsuki were after him, since it's too risky. He might be laying low until he can take Sasuke's body.
Manior
02-10-2005, 09:27 PM
Hisshou, how big is the possibilty Oro is in the Sand now? (refering to the two Akatsuki talking something about Oro and the Sand)
caliboy
02-10-2005, 10:13 PM
if kyuubi is part of japanese legend, what other demons are associated with japanese legend? is shukaku part of it?
Kineas
02-10-2005, 10:29 PM
I'm not a "NaruSaku fan eager to add another NaruSaku *moment* to my archive" neither am I an "Inane fanboy/fangirl trying to excavate for obscure hints that're barely visible". I wasn't even talking with you in the first place but with Hisshou, kindly asking for enlightment on a particular which is important for me, why don't you mind your own business instead than trying to make me look like fool? Do you like to start fights for no reason? :) (See? I'm able to say bad things adding a smile, like you!)
I don't see the point of verbal duels over the internet. And if if you really wish to take what I said that seriously, so be it.
Obviously, I meant it to be in a joking manner, that's why I added the goddamned :) .
hisshou: So Oro might not be around the hidden Sand? That makes more sense now.
Yanagi
02-10-2005, 10:45 PM
The only thing that throws me is the line: "Sasori no danna wa mitereba ii...un"
I've never seen the word "danna" mean anything else but husband. Ever. Is it supposed to have a different meaning here? Also, bird/bat akatsuki member speaks using "oira" as "I". I haven't come across anything that had a guy use that form. Is it a non gender specific version of "I"? Or is that character definitely a girl (which I think it is) Hope someone can clear that up for me :P
Zion Liger
02-10-2005, 11:00 PM
Akatsuki's leader is a Scorpion...Ninja...oh hell...
silent_speech
02-10-2005, 11:32 PM
hmm, maybe that 80 thing that hand-mouth Akatsuki member was referring to was that thing he/she? pulled out of the bag and put into the mouth of his/her? hand. Maybe each piece of sand/rock/bread? is is a creature that he/she can enlarge and control and she has 80 of those things in her bag.
raijin
02-10-2005, 11:57 PM
hmm, maybe that 80 thing that hand-mouth Akatsuki member was referring to was that thing he/she? pulled out of the bag and put into the mouth of his/her? hand. Maybe each piece of sand/rock/bread? is is a creature that he/she can enlarge and control and she has 80 of those things in her bag.
Actually, it should be "Number 18" not 80.
十八番 (オハコ > ohako) means "Number 18".
It appears that hisshouburaiken misread the kanji, since 八十 is 80.
Can't it be the simple fact that Shukaku has one tail? Are there any multitailed legendary demons in japanese legends? Two tailed, five tailed, etc... that would make sense together with the nine tailed Kyuubi, but I doubt anything like that is possible...
It would be too much of a coincidence if there was another 7 multitailed demons for Kishi to use in his manga...
i don't think so, most demons probably has just one tail, though there is one with 3 tails according to legend.
this is just my theory. cos we are not familiar yet with the new terms Kishi created. and that seems to be a logical guess. what i meant was that "BI" is a counter for great youmas here. so even though Kyuubi has 9 tails, he'll still be "ICHIBI" (one tail/one youma) as he is ONE of the great youmas.
i read some other translations, and nobody has yet translated "hitobashirachikara", and bcos "hitobashira" means human sacrifice, and Gaara was referred to as the "hitobashirachikara" of Shukaku, so i'd say "hitobashirachikara" is Kishimoto's term for "demon vessal" . of course i could be wrong.
SonicRave
02-11-2005, 12:06 AM
Sasuke was stated be at Chuunin level just before going after Garra. Garra beat Sasuke and also beat Rock Lee who went ALL out opening 5 of the life gates. Naruto won against Gaara by waking him up, before he would have been screwed. So yea that with Gaara being able to improve quickly plus the fact that his own father wanted him dead since he was a little kid along with Garra walking away from S rank missions...
I think Gaara was never at Genin level where he first appeared. Lets now forget him being the secret weapon of the Sound. Then of course don't forget the Sand ARE NOT weak if they were then Naruto's village wouldn't have been at less than half power. They sent out Genin on very dangerous missions because of a lack of man power. And it was because that some of the Genin defeated the Sound Four which proved that they could become higher level ninja.
I expected this to happen. I just wish that Naruto would be given some special title above Jounin. After all the hell he went through he deserves it damn it. In terms of raw power at least Naruto is above EVERYONE.
Now that he's wiser he should be near unbeatable. Skill plus raw power equals victory.
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