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Mangekyo Bankai
02-20-2007, 11:08 AM
Heres the deal, it's pretty much everything you can infer from the title. Orochimaru is minding his own business, about to pick up the Sword of Kusangi from the shop, maybe grab a snack for Sasuke; when Sasori rolls up on the scene and starts some shit.

Here's a couple stats:

Pros

Orochimaru
-one of the strongest/most gifted shinobi in all the land
-main villain and all around bad guy of the series

Sasori
-Akatsuki member noted for committing what is arguably the greatest atrocities amongst the ones we know
-Once took down a whole country single-handedly

Cons

Orochimaru
-Couldn't take down one village with the full support of Sunagure, his sound entourtage, two Kages, and the element of surprise.

Sasori
-Got beat up by a couple of girls :P

With that said, let's get ready to rumble!!!

mootz
02-20-2007, 02:35 PM
lol thats messed up. besides the country sasori took down probably didnt have ninjas well oro tried to fight the will of fire. anyway i think oro takes this, he is just to freaky awesome with his jutsus

Sasori
02-20-2007, 03:00 PM
In b4 Woofie.

durtycheese
02-20-2007, 04:18 PM
i personlly think they are equal in strength.

MasamuneX7
02-22-2007, 12:25 PM
The country that Sasori destroyed did have ninjas, or there would be no point in saying it. The purpose of it was to hype Sasori, not make him look like a weakling who picks on civilians. Also, before someone else says it, he didn't say whether it was a large country or a small country, so don't assume it was small because you don't think it's right. Sasuke just cleared 1000 ninjas without a single scratch. I'm sure Sasori's style of fighting can kill even more no-name ninjas than that.

Once you have a face and a name in this manga, you're automatically stronger than all those cannon fodder jounin and ANBU.

Since you made the battle using Orochimaru without Kusanagi and without prep-time, this goes to Sasori. Without Kusanagi and Edo Tensei, Orochimaru has not yet demonstrated a way to break through Hiruko unless he uses Manda, who's an asshole. This is of course, going only by what we've seen of Orochimaru.

Esponer
02-22-2007, 12:32 PM
Sasuke just cleared 1000 ninjas without a single scratch.
He did what? I read the manga and have read the latest chapter, 342, and that's never happened. Either you're spoiling a future chapter or you're lying.

King
02-22-2007, 01:21 PM
I think that if they were to fight Orochimaru would win.

Sasori
02-22-2007, 04:56 PM
He did what? I read the manga and have read the latest chapter, 342, and that's never happened. Either you're spoiling a future chapter or you're lying.I'm guessin this is sarcasm to make a point.

However, it isn't stated that there were "1000" ninjas, but you can pretty much see that there is alot of them.

Sasori
02-22-2007, 04:57 PM
He did what? I read the manga and have read the latest chapter, 342, and that's never happened. Either you're spoiling a future chapter or you're lying.I'm guessin this is sarcasm to make a point.

However, it isn't stated that there were "1000" ninjas, but you can pretty much see that there is alot of them.

Woozie
02-22-2007, 05:01 PM
Kusanagi is just a tool.

It's basically like Hiruko to Sasori, Oro's favourite but it isn't any real power level booster. Hell, basically the only difference it has to a normal sword is that it's hard as diamond/unbreakable.

gabzilla
02-22-2007, 05:03 PM
Oro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sasori

Unless Sasori uses his boyish looks.

MasamuneX7
02-23-2007, 12:36 AM
Oro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sasori

Unless Sasori uses his boyish looks.

You know of a way Oro can break Hiruko without Kusanagi or prep time? Don't assume. Use what we've seen.

Mangekyo Bankai
02-23-2007, 12:42 AM
Might I point out that Sasori has no prep-time either. He just sorta sees Orochimaru and says "Hey, thats the defect that ran crying from the organization thanks to Itachi... the AL would love it if I brought his head back with me!"

mootz
02-23-2007, 12:45 AM
You guys seem to forget oro became a sannin before he started openly using his forbidden techniques and as for the sword he could easily use a kunai or an exploding tag. imo oro is the best, not necessarily fastest or strongest but the best overall because of his many jutsus and skill. the only person i believe who is on the same level would be itachi.

i believe the AL will not be as a great ninja but rather just have some hax jutsu and decent skills.

TreeofSephri
02-23-2007, 01:33 AM
Oro summons Manda to clean up Sasori and his fodder puppets.

MasamuneX7
02-23-2007, 02:30 AM
Might I point out that Sasori has no prep-time either. He just sorta sees Orochimaru and says "Hey, thats the defect that ran crying from the organization thanks to Itachi... the AL would love it if I brought his head back with me!"

Sasori doesn't need prep-time because he doesn't use Edo Tensei.

Woozie
02-23-2007, 05:31 AM
You know of a way Oro can break Hiruko without Kusanagi or prep time? Don't assume. Use what we've seen.

http://personal.inet.fi/peli/karvattomat/12409.jpg

MasamuneX7
02-23-2007, 05:52 AM
http://personal.inet.fi/peli/karvattomat/12409.jpg

I already took that into consideration. Any moderately strong character of some importance would destroy that weak snake. Even Forest of Death Sasuke and Naruto disposed of a couple of snakes half that size.

Manda is the only snake that would be a factor in this battle.

Woozie
02-23-2007, 06:10 AM
I already took that into consideration. Any moderately strong character of some importance would destroy that weak snake. Even Forest of Death Sasuke and Naruto disposed of a couple of snakes half that size.

Manda is the only snake that would be a factor in this battle.

Are you kidding?

The snakes in the forest were maybe one fifth of it's size. The samller one could be killed with kunais.

Hiruko only has it's needles. Jiraiya needed the underword swamp to even disable one of these. Sasori has nothing like this.

Teren_Kanan
02-23-2007, 06:24 AM
I give it to Orochimaru, There is really no concrete evidence (that we've seen) to fully support a victory for either of them at this point. But given their importance to the storyline, their character, and how they were introduced, it would make more sense for Orochimaru to be greater than Sasori

Aizen
02-24-2007, 10:12 AM
it was a reason for kabuto to come with oro when fighting sasori.

im giving this to sasori.

Kuya
02-24-2007, 10:17 AM
Oro wins. He was confident enough to fight Sasori at the bridge where was disguised as Sasori.

They are ex-partners so they most likely knew eachother's moves. Oro would know to get past Hiruko and avoid all that poison. Also, he's got the snake summons, and if allowed (prep-time), Edo Tensai would to the job.

sel
02-25-2007, 05:19 AM
i think that before his death Sasori was the strongest Akatsuki member that weve seen [including itachi]

hyuuga_neji14732
02-26-2007, 12:04 AM
Sasori would win

Mangekyo Bankai
02-26-2007, 12:08 AM
Kuya: who would he summon with Edo Tensei that could compete with the 3rd Kazekage and the 100 puppets?

Star Juice
02-26-2007, 08:20 PM
They are ex-partners so they most likely knew eachother's moves. Oro would know to get past Hiruko and avoid all that poison. Also, he's got the snake summons, and if allowed (prep-time), Edo Tensai would to the job.

Double standard. We could just as easily say that since they were ex-partners and knew each other's moves, Sasori could get around Orochimaru's jutsus and avoid his tongue. Oro has snake summons, Sasori has puppet summons. Oro gets no prep time so Edo Tensai is a non-factor.

Orochimaru might have some extra moves up his sleeves or down his throat, since after all we've not seen him go all out yet (his fight against Sandaime might qualify, but since Oro survived that encounter he's doubtlessly received the requisite villain power boost by now). But based on what we've seen, I give this to Sasori.

MISTNINJA
02-27-2007, 12:55 AM
Oro would win this. Oro is simply incredible with his Jutsu and will have a plan to defeat Sasori. It will be tough but if he has had Kabuto under his spell he could have followed him to Oro and killed him. I am sure he did not want to face Oro unless he had some type of tactical advantage. On even terms Oro wins this.

durtycheese
02-27-2007, 01:34 AM
sasori wins but would be very difficult.

Kuya
02-27-2007, 02:56 AM
Kuya: who would he summon with Edo Tensei that could compete with the 3rd Kazekage and the 100 puppets?

With Prep?

1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Hokages. 1st and 2nd Kazekage. Uchiha Madara. Hatake Sakumo.

Pein
02-28-2007, 03:27 AM
just summon up manda