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Ratchet45
02-19-2007, 07:32 PM
I just thought of something.The Dead Demon Comsuming Seal(Reaper Death Seal.)I know it seals a soul in the reaper's belly,and Sarutobi and Yondaime used it and it comes with a terrible price,but it only seals the soul of something.So wouldn't that mean that only the soul of the Kyubi is in Naruto?And although the Kyubi is in Naruto's body,it's still not whole?I just don't understand.

Kyon
02-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Yes, only the Kyuubi's soul (and chakra) are concealed in Naruto's body. The actual Kyuubi's body is inside of the Death God.

I think. I don't actually quite remember what happened to the Kyuubi.

Cirus
02-19-2007, 08:30 PM
It is as the stroy said. The 4th sealed it in Naruto at the cost of his life. The exact sealing method as of know is unknown.

Rokudou Taichō
04-29-2007, 04:31 AM
I don't actually quite remember what happened to the Kyuubi.

Leuce Chakra
04-29-2007, 05:09 AM
I dont remember either. But, maybe the kyuubi's body disappeared when the 4th sealed its chakra and soul in Naruto. Unless the other Konoha Shinobi buried the body or something.

ShounenSuki
04-29-2007, 07:06 AM
I just thought of something.The Dead Demon Comsuming Seal(Reaper Death Seal.)I know it seals a soul in the reaper's belly,and Sarutobi and Yondaime used it and it comes with a terrible price,but it only seals the soul of something.So wouldn't that mean that only the soul of the Kyubi is in Naruto?And although the Kyubi is in Naruto's body,it's still not whole?I just don't understand.

We don't even know if the Kyuubi ever had a body. For all we know, it could have been entirely composed of chakra.
When the Akatsuki sealed the Sanbi, its body also disappeared. So something similar probably happened to the Kyuubi as well.

It is as the stroy said. The 4th sealed it in Naruto at the cost of his life. The exact sealing method as of know is unknown.
Although we don't know exactly how the Yondaime sealed the Kyuubi, we do know what sealing method he used.

frenchmax
04-29-2007, 08:58 AM
the sealing technique just seals in the soul of the opponent, and the soul of the medium (the one who summons the death god). Kyuubi is a demon so I doubt he has a soul. I would say that that kyuubi' s entire body is in naruto. remember when naruto summoned gamabunta? kyuubi tryed to attack naruto with it' s claws. to me that seamed to be a real body. that' s why it is in a prison or cage or whatever. The seal is this peace of paper on the door. But when naruto fought sasuke in shippuuden, kyuubi could leak out as chakra and take form. (then sasuke supresses it). So I would say the soul, the body and of course the chakra. and shounensuki is probably right in saying kyuubi may be only composed of chakra

Ratchet45
07-12-2007, 03:34 AM
We don't even know if the Kyuubi ever had a body. For all we know, it could have been entirely composed of chakra.
When the Akatsuki sealed the Sanbi, its body also disappeared. So something similar probably happened to the Kyuubi as well.


Although we don't know exactly how the Yondaime sealed the Kyuubi, we do know what sealing method he used.

Of course the Kyuubi had a body.http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k54/huey10/NarutoEp1_6__0001.jpg
How else would do so much damage to Konoha? He would have had to have a physical form.

Euraj
07-12-2007, 03:38 AM
I think the fox's physical body disentigrated upon having his spirit and chakra being sealed inside of Naruto. That's the same thing that happened with Hokage Brothers after they were defeated by the Third.

Shodai
07-12-2007, 03:58 AM
How did Orochimaru use Edo Tensei on Yondy if he was trapped in Shinigami?

Euraj
07-12-2007, 04:06 AM
How did Orochimaru use Edo Tensei on Yondy if he was trapped in Shinigami?Orochimaru didn't know the Demon Consuming Seal existed until the Third showed it to him, so to him, the Fourth was just dead. I think the third casket would have still failed even if the Third Hokage didn't stop it, but who knows? That's probably something that will never be asnwered.

Shodai
07-12-2007, 04:22 AM
Orochimaru didn't know the Demon Consuming Seal existed until the Third showed it to him, so to him, the Fourth was just dead. I think the third casket would have still failed even if the Third Hokage didn't stop it, but who knows? That's probably something that will never be asnwered.

We have the following options.

1) Edo Tensei Can *SOMEHOW due to PnJ* overpower Shinigami and takes souls from him.... unlikely

2) Plot Hole

3) Wouldn't have worked anyway if Sarutobi didn't stop it

4) Wouldn't have worked because YONDY IS STILL ALIVE BWAHAHAHHA... *cough*

Yellow
07-12-2007, 04:24 AM
We don't even know if the Kyuubi ever had a body. For all we know, it could have been entirely composed of chakra.
When the Akatsuki sealed the Sanbi, its body also disappeared. So something similar probably happened to the Kyuubi as well.


Although we don't know exactly how the Yondaime sealed the Kyuubi, we do know what sealing method he used.

QFT. I'd say this post explain it accurately.

How did Orochimaru use Edo Tensei on Yondy if he was trapped in Shinigami?
What are you talking about?

No where in the manga did Orochimaru ever try to bring back the Yondaime?:huh

BlackShinobi
07-12-2007, 04:26 AM
Users: Fourth Hokage, Third Hokage
The Dead Demon Consuming Seal is a seal that invokes the powers of the death god (shinigami). Once called upon, the death god hovers behind the user and remains invisible to the opponent until it has grasped their soul. Unlike many of the other seals used throughout the series, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal has served different purposes for each of it uses. When first used by the Fourth Hokage, it sealed the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox within Naruto Uzumaki. Once the demon fox was sealed within Naruto, the Fourth used a Four Symbols Seal and the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style so that the demon fox's chakra could mix with Naruto's.

When later used by the Third Hokage's shadow clones, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal sealed the souls of the First and Second Hokage within the clones' bodies. When used again by the actual Third Hokage, it sealed Orochimaru's arms, preventing their use.

Once summoned, the death god reaches its arm into the summoner, signifying the hold it has upon the summoner's soul. Once the sealing is completed, the death god consumes the user's soul almost immediately afterwards. In the cases of the first two Hokages, the death god consumed their souls in addition to the souls of the clones, suggesting that it consumes whatever souls are present within the user's body. Once a soul has been eaten by the death god, it resides within the death god's stomach, destined to do battle with its fellow souls for all eternity.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Dead_Demon_Consuming_Seal.JPG

Freiza
07-12-2007, 08:49 AM
Well thank you Shinobi for that. :)