Naruto related to the 4th Hokage? Discuss here!

[Hokage Naruto]

Blonde hair, huge smile, fast, Rasengan, and determination - these are the traits that Naruto and the Yondaime Hokage share. But is there a connection that runs as deep as blood? It's been a debate that has been going on for awhile now.

The debate gets even better when Naruto is always compared with Yondaime in potential and jutsu usage. And that Yondaime could've been in his mid to late twenties when he had fought the Kyuubi and sacrificed his life to save the Leaf Village.

Why did he choose the baby Naruto instead of any other child? Was it because Naruto's parents had just been killed and it was convenient? or was it because the 4th felt obliged to use no other child other than his own because he couldn't bring himself to ask someone else to make the sacrifice?

Is the 4th Naruto's father, brother, cousin, etc? What do you think?

[Jannoy]

Yes, No...

Maybe so! :lmao

The new HoU looks fun without all the extra crap.

Perhaps I should post in it more often now. :plot

[TenshiOni]

Personally, I do think they're father and son, yes.

I just like the idea of the 4th choosing to use his own son rather than asking someone to make the sacrifice and/or finding some random kid who's parents just died.
The new HoU looks fun without all the extra crap.

Perhaps I should post in it more often now. :plot
I'd consider that a Mission Success. :D

[blackdragon2187]

If the 4th isn't Naruto father...i don't know what to think. (B/c i think they are father and son.)

They look and act similar, and Kakashi keeps comparing them...so they must/better be related. :cry

[Jannoy]

A comment from TenshiOni. :sag

YOSH! :yell

To keep things on topic, yes, I do believe that they're related. I follow on with Yondaime chosing his son and not some other child to be the container.

[Gaara of the Desert]

I would have to agree with your agurements.

Who in their right mind would ask someone else to give up their child?

I also believe that Naruto is the 4th's son.

[Uzumaki]

I would have to agree with your agurements.

Who in their right mind would ask someone else to give up their child?

I also believe that Naruto is the 4th's son.
^Well, If it shows out that Naruto aint Yondiames son... He just did

Back too Topic
Yes, I belive they are Father and son. Naruto got all the Personal traits the Yondaime has, Blue eyes, Blond Hair and the same dumb grin on their faces.
Stuff like that, you Inherit, But It would not suprise me if Kishi is going to break all the laws of Nature :notrust

[Sasori]

If it counts, then Mokuton or Sandaime Kazekage's

If not, then I guess byakugan is pretty kool.

[Sorren]

They resemblance is undeniable, I know they are related in some way. At first I thoguht it was his dad, but then later on I had heard it was his brother, so I don't know anymore.

[Tyrannos]

I believe he is the son of the Yondaime.

The growing similarities and the various subtile hints thrown in by the characters. Coincidence? I think not. :P

[Daikatana]

Too Cliche in my book if it were his father. I wish it were more like his uncle or eldest brother or something, and the story goes that his actual parents died fighting the Kyuubi (Well cept his mother, who died during childbirth :P)

[Kyon]

It's somewhat cliche, but as long as Yondaime doesn't turn out to be AL I'll be alright with it.

[Spell]

I personally believe they are father and son. But I still have no clue why nobody knows it, I mean why nobody knows who is Naruto's father. And why Naruto does not ask !! :yell

[ZACKtheband]

What makes me believe they're related, is that when Jiraiya taught Naruto the Frog Summoning Technique, the two names before Naruto's on the scroll were Jiraiya and someone named Uzumaki Arashi.

Now, if you look back to the beginning of the series, you see the Fourth is standing on Gamabunta while fighting against the Nine Tails.

We know that Jiraiya was the Fourth's teacher, so we can easily assume that Jiraiya taught the Fourth the Frog Summoning Technique, and so, the Fourth must have signed the Frog Contract Scroll.

The last person before Naruto to sign the scroll was the Fourth, the last name before Naruto was Uzumaki Arashi. Same last name, alot of similarities and obvious foreshadowing: They're related.

[Hatake Timu]

The last person before Naruto to sign the scroll was the Fourth, the last name before Naruto was Uzumaki Arashi. Same last name, alot of similarities and obvious foreshadowing: They're related.

^^ correct

[Jenna Berry]

@ZACKtheband: It's impossible for the scroll to be translated correctly. :\

Anyway, I think they're related. I think Yondaime being Naruto's father makes sense.

Or maybe they're uncle and nephew. :P

[Master Shake]

im going with it being his son the age fits the story fit both his parents died and things that are said by others

[Triggerhappy69]

How can they not be freakin related. Who else has blonde hair in Konoha?

Plus, the older Naruto gets, the more he looks like him. I'll be very surprised if they aren't related.

[ZACKtheband]

@ZACKtheband: It's impossible for the scroll to be translated correctly. :\

i'm not exactly sure what you mean.
haven't people translated it already?

[Even]

I believe they are father and son, yes:grin

[Powzor]

I think they are father and son, and its true that its one called uzumaki Arashi on that scroll...ive seen the translated.

[D1nonlynaruto]

It's gotta be his dad. I mean, if a family member of naruto was to put a demon inside of him, who's responsiblitiy would it be? a father's. i think that kinda makes sense. :)

[se7enmidori]

I heard that the Fourth is Naruto's father... But I'm still confused... unless the mangaka concludes who Yondaime is and how is he related to Naruto... :P

[Choakslame]

I think and hope he is.. But, how come Naruto doesn't care who is related to him?? What a hell?!

[General Mustang]

I think he is related to him, actually i "hope" hes related to him

[Hiroshi]

i think and hope they are father and son...
so many references between the two comparing and all...
who would know though....
maybe jiraya knows but doesnt tell..
anyway the blue eyes, blond hair....
wat itachi said, the scroll

its very possible...
yondaime chosing his own son maybe cuz he knew that he son could, or cuz he's a noble guy and didn't want to burden another child...

then that brings up the question of who's the mother...
ive heard ppl guess that naruto is the 4th reborn or something though i dont believe that

[Tsunayoshi]

i'm not exactly sure what you mean.
haven't people translated it already?
No. There have been guesses and there have also been made up translations (like Uzumaki Arashi). However, it hasn't actually been translated; the name that would belong to Yondaime on the srcoll in illegible.

Anyway, I do believe that they are father and son, because of all their similarities and for the same reason as TenshiOni.

[Johnokage]

I think they are related, Who else would have given up their child to put the nine tails inside of him/her. Look at the hatred the village had for Naruto because of what was inside of him.

[Kaiji]

the only related thing is the hair

so maybe

[JeffStudios]

then that brings up the question of who's the mother...



A cheap hooker?

[Saya]

How can they not be freakin related. Who else has blonde hair in Konoha?

Ino has blonde hair.

[Roxas]

i made this thread a few days ago go to this link to see it
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthre...68#post6925968

[Roxas]

if i doesnt work this is what i said

'i just want to put this out there for some of you that think Naruto is not the 4ths son!Here are some reasons why he is.....

1. he has blond hair just like the forth
2.if the 4th did a seal jutsu and needed a baby for it he would have had to use one of his OWN kids i mean really do you think that on his way to seal the demon he would just take a random baby! No it would have to of been someone in his family(hint hint)
3.is it me or did Naruto's dad just HAPPEN to DISSAPEAR after the nine-tailed fox was sealed in Naruto and the fact that NOBODY EVER TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS PARENTS THE DAY HE WAS BORN!(hint-Naruto was born the day the nine-tailed fox came)
4.Naruto just HAPPENS to not only know the same summoning jutsu but also the brashingon!
5.Why do you think that Jiraiya has an INTREST in Naruto(hmmm i wonder why? hint hint)and taught him the 2 jutsu's that Jiraiya taught the 4th! i meen! do you realy think that someone with THAT much power would just teech a random 12 year old kid those....get real(counting the fact that Jiraiya tried to help him because of his Demon Fox chakra but still)
6.Jiraiya even said that Naruto was like the 4th!

so as you can see(hopefully) Naruto is the 4ths son"

[JeffStudios]

if i doesnt work this is what i said

'i just want to put this out there for some of you that think Naruto is not the 4ths son!Here are some reasons why he is.....

1. he has blond hair just like the forth
2.if the 4th did a seal jutsu and needed a baby for it he would have had to use one of his OWN kids i mean really do you think that on his way to seal the demon he would just take a random baby! No it would have to of been someone in his family(hint hint)
3.is it me or did Naruto's dad just HAPPEN to DISSAPEAR after the nine-tailed fox was sealed in Naruto and the fact that NOBODY EVER TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS PARENTS THE DAY HE WAS BORN!(hint-Naruto was born the day the nine-tailed fox came)
4.Naruto just HAPPENS to not only know the same summoning jutsu but also the brashingon!
5.Why do you think that Jiraiya has an INTREST in Naruto(hmmm i wonder why? hint hint)and taught him the 2 jutsu's that Jiraiya taught the 4th! i meen! do you realy think that someone with THAT much power would just teech a random 12 year old kid those....get real(counting the fact that Jiraiya tried to help him because of his Demon Fox chakra but still)
6.Jiraiya even said that Naruto was like the 4th!

so as you can see(hopefully) Naruto is the 4ths son"

I think your second one is probably the best to defend the theory.

But I support This :D

also Jiraiya trained Naruto cause Naruto bribed him with his Sexy no Justu.

and no double posting silly.

[Rise Against713]

i think that the yody is naruto's father. for all the reasons stated allready

[Roxas]

rofl nice pledge

[cute_jay]

hey guys....it might not make sense but!
uzumaki naruto
uzumaki arashi....
arashi=storm rite?
naruto is wind elemented...and naruto shippuden=hurricane?
so...maybe kishimoto already revealed dat 4th is naruto's father and remember he pointed at the forth statue and said "watch me!"?

[.MeloN.]

I think he did the statue pointing thing for his own dreams, not beacause the 4th is his father

(Im not against the 4th is his father idea btw)

[T4R0K]

To all that strongly believe the 4th name was on the frog scroll, did you try to check it for yourself, or did you decide youliked the theory without paying much attention ? It's not a flame, it's a real question. IRL, many people believe in things because they like it, and not because they collected the information indepentmy to forge their own opinion.

The writing on the scroll was not enough clear to be decoded in that sense to me, so I'm no sure until Kishi confirms anything.

And on topic, I do believe they're related (must be blind to not see it), but I have no idea if it's his dad, uncle, cousin, or the last clan member before Naruto (Naruto being the current last one of that potential clan). They're family, but how ? That's the question.

[Kiwichi]

I think he did the statue pointing thing for his own dreams, not beacause the 4th is his father

(Im not against the 4th is his father idea btw)



I'm just wondering though, why would Naruto just point only at Yondy when he could randomly point at any of the Hokage's faces?

I strongly believe Yondy is Naruto's father. :amuse :nod No one in the anime has such sunkissed blond hair! (Ino's a bit pale-blonde)

(PS offtopic: How do you get the line seperating my reply and siggy to be centered?)

[Dao]

YONDY is deffinately Naruto's Dad, I mean serious they must be blind to see see it? O_o;

Maybe in the Real world like ours we might recognize them, but still we can still hint like Kakashi and Jiraiya hinting naruto look like Yondaime.

Plus, The age difference from naruto and Yondy match suitable to be son and dad.

For those who beleive Yondy is AL that is a load of bullcrap.. Why bring a dead man back?

FOr those who do not believe Yondy is related to Naruto- Probably is too blinded, by thinking -- Hmm maybe Naruto is just a wannabe Yondaime.

HELLO, what are the chances of someone lookinf like a deadguy?? 1 out of Million?

And I know Naruto is not that 1:1000000, chance kid okay. Naruto is deffinately Yondaime's son.

EVen Naruto is looking like Yondy now. And is he's trying to be like YONDY? NO, because he never was a Yondy wannabe in the first place, he admires Yondaime, like all those ppl (sandaime hokage) admires Yondy.

~daomoua2

[sassuke55]

this is my first post but i have read a few threads on here. I heard somewhere they were saying Naruto is the fourth because there was a flash of light and then boom Naruto. One Yondaime was called Yellow flash correct? That means he could have teleported to naruto because he is the father/brother and there for cares for him daily.

I belive him to be either father or brother. Starting to lean more so to brother because that would make him and Sasuke's bond stronger because they would both have brothers who were great really young!

Also Kiwichi sorrie if I mispelled but I remember the eps you were talking about when he pointed to the fourth and he did so because the fourth was considered the Greates of them all and Naruto we all know wants to be the best.

What will seal the deal for me and would be very COOL is if Naruto learns the Yellow flash Jutsu on his own that would be bad ****

[Powzor]

Well, i think Jiraiya and Kakashi knows something about that Naruto is related to Yondaime but maybe they want him to find it out himself?....and Jiraiya said that Naruto was as stupid as Yondaime when he went out on that Jurney with Jiraiya, But anyways either he is his Son or his Brother..

[Chee]

I'm just wondering though, why would Naruto just point only at Yondy when he could randomly point at any of the Hokage's faces?
Jiraiya said that Naruto reminded him a lot of the 4th Hokage, so I guess Naruto wanted to surpass him.

(PS offtopic: How do you get the line seperating my reply and siggy to be centered?)
You can't.

[FoxHime]

www.yondaime.org

That's for all you fans out there. Plus, her theories rock. I bookmarked it!:)

[blacktbt]

I am open to all the possiblities of what happened to the Fourth. However a few interesting points I would like to bring up that appeared in the manga. When Orochimaru is attacking the village during the exams, Anko said something like if only the Fourth was still here. The third gave an abrupt response saying that he is gone, and we cannot rely on him anymore. Is that a hint to say that he's still alive. Is it a possibility that both theories are true and that he is Naruto's father and the AL? At the sametime does anyone think that he is the Fourth reborn. Somehow the Fourth managed to use the forbidden jutsu and seal the monster within himself only to be reborn. Just as the Third created that mark on himself, the same should have happened to the Fourth. If he was going to make the sacrifice, wouldn't he just let himself die with the Nine-tails

[kbabecki]

i think that the fourth used the jutsu. he was the sacrifice, and naruto popped out as the cage to hold the nine-tails. that also sort of explains why naruto has the fourth's characteristics.


and for all of you that think:u Why would Jiraiya take in intrest in naruto? he must be the fourth's son! naruto also has the nine-tails in him, so that might be a reason to train him.

[Panic]

Ever since Naruto started using the Rasengan, my best friend James swears on his life that Naruto and the 4th are related. I am not convinced though.

[texranger17]

they are most likely related and there are several hints in both the anime and manga. Jiraiya pushing naruto off the cliff during their training and forgiving the 4th, the comparison that jiraiya gave, their traits, what itachi says when they are going to capture naruto (i believe he says "we're after the legacy of the 4th, or something like that) and in the manga, when kakashi has a flashback of naruto's training to get fuuton rasengan and they run toward each other and kakashi turns around and sees the image of the 4th around naruto. thats a lot of proof, but we wont know until later.

[Demonic Shaman]

Yes, I believe Naruto is related to Fourth Hokage somehow. Either father/son or uncle/nephew.

I also like the theory of Naruto is the Fourth Hokage or Naruto, a clone of Fourth Hokage.

[durtycheese]

i think yondi is narutos uncle's nephew's son.

[Qrαhms]

Yondaime doesn't neccessarily needs to be Naruto's dad. He may be related to Naruto somehow, but not with a father-son relationship. Maybe more like:

Monkey D. Luffy and Gold D. Roger
:nuts

[Love Mitarashi Anko]

Blonde hair, huge smile, fast, Rasengan, and determination - these are the traits that Naruto and the Yondaime Hokage share. But is there a connection that runs as deep as blood? It's been a debate that has been going on for awhile now.

The debate gets even better when Naruto is always compared with Yondaime in potential and jutsu usage. And that Yondaime could've been in his mid to late twenties when he had fought the Kyuubi and sacrificed his life to save the Leaf Village.

Why did he choose the baby Naruto instead of any other child? Was it because Naruto's parents had just been killed and it was convenient? or was it because the 4th felt obliged to use no other child other than his own because he couldn't bring himself to ask someone else to make the sacrifice?

Is the 4th Naruto's father, brother, cousin, etc? What do you think?

They are related, no doubt about it. They just HAS to be, but in which way, i don't know..

[Mangekyo Bankai]

I think the chances are pretty good that they are related, unless their similarities are part of some massive coincidence...

[narutorendan21]

i as well agree

[Vedude]

Well, u never know, maybe they are son and father, maybe not. It's all about wait and see :)

[Birkin]

I have to say no, they are not father and son

[gesy hyuga]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o262/gesyhyuga/yondaime302pe.jpg

[Birkin]

Let me ask you in another way, is Lee and Gai related? Well, are they??

[ANBU_Yamato]

so many things in the show and manga relate to the fact that naruto is somehow related the 4th hokage..so i say yes!

[squkyshoes]

That + There are many similarities, even their blood type. They both have type B blood, blong spikey hair, blue eyes, characteristics, ect. They are constantly compared to eachother. Plus, the foruth was in a vicious battle, do you think he had time to find a family with a newborn baby willing to give up their kid so everyone will think of him as evil? hell no!

also, none of the villagers now that Naruto is his son because Naruto was just born. They didn't get any news saying who's baby it was.

[mister_manji]

's been done to death many times over.

[Cygnius]

Let me ask you in another way, is Lee and Gai related? Well, are they??



this is rather a great point by Light! But i think 95% would rather see that Naruto and Yondy are father and son or brothers...you know that the eldest in the village would know like Jiraiya and Tsunade...

...anywho! i heard a great made up rumor is that Jiraiya could be the 4ths Dad and that would be another reason for Jiraiya training Naruto...Grandpapy training Grandson...WOW...~ Think ~ Jiraiya is perverted and writes Adult novels...Naruto is the inventor of Sexy no Jitsu! Im Pretty sure that's something to Keep In Mind Too...

...Kishi has been a great storyteller and i havent been bored at all, Xing the fillers of course...he will definitly AW us fans no doubt about it...smile-big

[balmung29]

Sorry but I cant be convinced on this. Not until they say so in the manga.

[Celina]

i heard the latest theorie:
naruto is YONDAIME!!!!
when you think about it.....
because if naruto´s father is yondaime, then who is the mother?
(another member in akatsuki?)

[Rhyth]

Yeah, I believe that Yondaime is Naruto's father as well. If not, then they must be related in another way.

[A2ZOMG]

Hey, just cause they follow maaaaany similar patterns and have similar traits, I'm not going to assume they are related. After all, I don't think Guy and Rock Lee are related...if they look alike. Then again, who knows who else Guy screwed around with. Or maybe he has a relative. Neh....they only said he has the same eyes or something.

Honestly, I can't imagine Jiraiya (peeping bastard he is) not knowing if 4th-sama is related or not to Naruto. He only said "The only think you two have in common is the blonde hair and your stupid stubbornness!" During the part where Naruto learns Rasengan.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I clearly heard that last quote in the right context. If that is really true, they are not related.

[ChibiKibi]

I do think they are father/son :)
Haha or at least related in some way ~
What a day that will be when it is confirmed; we'll all be on here at midnight yelling "I KNEW IT!!!" ^___^

[fennixfire]

I am 99% sure that the 4th is the father of Naruto. I say 99% because the remaining 1% always wants to disagree. But back on topic, I think I would implode if I found out that he's not the father. That means that I have been disillusioned and I never listen to the 1% screaming that I am wrong. Yondaime has to be Naruto's father, he just has to be.

[tarasaur]

:yondaime I think Naruto is his son.

[Misa Amane]

I've always thought Naruto was his son, but he may be rekated another way. Like his uncle or Grandpa, ect.

[Capacity]

I believe Naruto is the 4th's son or nephew and not the recarnation of the 4th

[Roxas]

Hey, just cause they follow maaaaany similar patterns and have similar traits, I'm not going to assume they are related. After all, I don't think Guy and Rock Lee are related...if they look alike. Then again, who knows who else Guy screwed around with. Or maybe he has a relative. Neh....they only said he has the same eyes or something.

Honestly, I can't imagine Jiraiya (peeping bastard he is) not knowing if 4th-sama is related or not to Naruto. He only said "The only think you two have in common is the blonde hair and your stupid stubbornness!" During the part where Naruto learns Rasengan.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I clearly heard that last quote in the right context. If that is really true, they are not related.


do i have to repeat what i said?(AGAIN) i guess i have to
1. he has blond hair just like the forth
2.if the 4th did a seal jutsu and needed a baby for it he would have had to use one of his OWN kids i mean really do you think that on his way to seal the demon he would just take a random baby! No it would have to of been someone in his family(hint hint)
3.is it me or did Naruto's dad just HAPPEN to DISSAPEAR after the nine-tailed fox was sealed in Naruto and the fact that NOBODY EVER TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS PARENTS THE DAY HE WAS BORN!(hint-Naruto was born the day the nine-tailed fox came)
4.Naruto just HAPPENS to not only know the same summoning jutsu but also the brashingon!
5.Why do you think that Jiraiya has an INTREST in Naruto(hmmm i wonder why? hint hint)and taught him the 2 jutsu's that Jiraiya taught the 4th! i meen! do you realy think that someone with THAT much power would just teech a random 12 year old kid those....get real(counting the fact that Jiraiya tried to help him because of his Demon Fox chakra but still)
6.Jiraiya even said that Naruto was like the 4th!

so as you can see(FOR GODS SAKE YOU BETTER!) Naruto is the 4ths son

[gesy hyuga]

in the case of 15 year old naruto......yondaime....YOU ARE THE FATHER*audiance gasp*

[dannyuzumaki]

i say he is relaed cuz 4 hukage dies his dad dies that is a very but maybe weird thing and they die for the same case so maybe i dont kno

[~M~]

I belive naruto is the fourths son, im gonna come right out and say it. Ont top of that i dont think the fourths dead. Did they ever find his body? If not ten how do we know hes dead. While naruto and yondaime have similaritys, have you taken a look at the AL ? He seems to look alot like yondaime, (hair, leadership, and power,) so maby its him. Im sure im going to get alot of flaming for this, with bull shit like, you have zero proof of any of this, well i dont nessicarly need "proof", its common sence, and its been hinted through out the manga. Dont look for the obvious peeps, add 2+2.

[Lazur]

No one is Naruto's father until proven, either by Musashi or the Manga. However, the hints are there; Naruto's father could be the Yondaime.

[Hinata_Rules]

I'm just wondering though, why would Naruto just point only at Yondy when he could randomly point at any of the Hokage's faces?

Naruto states that the 4th his favorite of the Hokages so that is why he only points there

But I still have no clue why nobody knows it, I mean why nobody knows who is Naruto's father. And why Naruto does not ask !! :yell

He may have asked earlier in his life ad just sent away and ignored, and now that he can get the attention of those who might know he has other things on his mind

[Tsukiko no Yuki]

Hmm... I do think it's Yondy's son, yes. ^^ But I do wonder who the mother is...

[Roxas]

hehehe its probably the ramen girl

[justafannojutsu]

If the 4th successfully sealed the kyuubi in naruto, wouldnt the vary nature of the Shikin fuujin jutsu mean that he is dead?

And i do think there is more than enough evidence/clues to conclude that Naruto and the 4th are connected beyond the attack of the Kyuubi.

I read above that there is a picture that shows the 4th standing on gammabunta during the fight with the kyuubi, if anyonw knows; could you please tell me where to it is in the manga?

Also could anyone help me understand where did the name arashi first appear in the manga....i have exactly no way of translating japanese into english :(.

One thing as far as measurable characteristics, in the bar tsunade says that Naruto in nothing like the fourth in manners, looks, and intelligence. There seems to be some conflicting perspectives present here.

[Kaiji]

Yes, No...

Maybe so! :lmao

The new HoU looks fun without all the extra crap.

Perhaps I should post in it more often now. :plot

lol true ... it is better

[SuperSpitter]

I think we will finally find out about all this shortly before the story ends. I'm convinced that there will be some chapters reviewing the certain night of the Kyuubi's sealing.
I like the idea that the Fourth is Naruto's father but I think it would be much cooler (and of course more unexpected) if Naruto should really be the Youndaime in some way.

Ah I just can't stand this thrill.

[Tsunayoshi]

Also could anyone help me understand where did the name arashi first appear in the manga....i have exactly no way of translating japanese into english :(.
It didn't really appear in the manga; it's nothing more than a guess at what the name that would belong to Yondaime on the frog summoning contract is supposed to be. However, it's been confirmed time and time again that his name is illegilbe on it. So, all we basically have are basically complete guesses at what his name is supposed to be; Arashi is just one of these guesses/attempts at tranlsating it. However, because of the illegibility of that, we have no way of knowing whether or not that really is his name or if it's completely different.

[jjhawkin]

Naruto could be some relation to the Fourth, but if he is the Fourth is a real dick. How could you subject your own relation (son, brother, cousin) and not somehow provide for his well-being later?! He could have at least set up a trust fund for Naruto so he could "buy" some friends while he was growing up!

[Hinata_Rules]

There is enough evidence to point to a relationship between the 4th and Naruto other the then the fox. But there isn't enough to say what that relationship is. Now I personally think father son, however there is enough evidence to argue against it as well

:yondaime :narsengan

Naruto could be some relation to the Fourth, but if he is the Fourth is a real dick. How could you subject your own relation (son, brother, cousin) and not somehow provide for his well-being later?! He could have at least set up a trust fund for Naruto so he could "buy" some friends while he was growing up!
As for leaving Naruto a trust fudn or something, it has been said that the 4th wanted Naruto looked upon as a hero in the village. Well, the idiots of the village didn't respect those wishes and look down on him. And apparently he did ok. He became a Ninja, and is now respected (not neccessarily liked) by the other shinobi. ANd although he doesn't have a lot of money or anything he seems to be able to handle himself financially, at least when Jiraiya isn't around

[Amatérasu’s Son]

Okay! Good Evening ladies and Gents, this is my first post. This is one of my favorite Naruto Topics and I have a couple of theories. Deep breath...

1. I strongly believe that Yondaime is Naruto's father. Blood type hair, We've never seen anyone in Konoha other than the Fourth with Naruto's shade of Blonde. The Yamanaka's are a paler blonde than Naruto's bright yellow. Techniques can be taught, and legitamately anyone who's a student of Jiraiya's might pick of Frog summoning. Rasengan is the same. Now correct me if I'm wrong but the Fourth was a genius, and though Naruto isn't he's more of an idiot savante. (joke). Naruto due to his isolation didn't have the communication opportunities with his peers as normal Ninja do, even Sasuke was taught by his father and brother. Note how Sakura giving him tips in the Tree climbing training as an example. He'd probably be smarter if he had a more normal childhood. Physically this is a stronger resemblance than Gai and Lee (Uncle and nephew maybe distant cousins). As Naruto grows older he resembles the fourth more and more (Shippuuden Sideburns). I agree with the argument, could you, being a person with a heart like all Hokage ask another parent to be the container for a Demon? To quote the Legendary Gangster Shino, "No Definitely Not." So obviously it would be his child. As for the mother... I don't know, maybe Naruto was premature, she was injured in the fox attack and went into labor early had Naruto and died in labor... That would also explain why the Fourth ( Hokage, defender of the village) was LATE getting to the battle. He was with his dying wife. I imagine Kakashi and Jiraiya do know (the Third and Fifth too), but as has been mentioned elsewhere in these forums perhaps it would be dangerous for Naruto or anyone else to know this.

2. Second theory. I read through this whole thread to make sure taht noone else said it first, I was thinking about this a few weeks ago... Chronologically, the Fourth died like the year after he became Hokage. Kakashi Gaiden verifies this being thirteen ago and the Kyubi's attack being twelve before the series starts. That means that during that time the next Hokage was still being decided. We all know what Orochimaru's hobbies include, so my second theory is that Orochimaru made a clone of his greatest Rival, Yondaime. This explains virtually the entire thing with the exception of one major detail. Looking at the flashback picture of the Fourth as a kid, he looks similar but not identical to Naruto and I'm not just talking about the Fox Whiskers. They genuinely look similar but not Identical, so theory 1 direct patriarchal Lineage still stands.

Other things...
Fourth is dead, Shiki Fuujin over and done Kamikaze Sealing style. Being as he invented it I imagine he had superior control over it compared to the third thus he could plant it in Naruto. Not unheard of, Chiyo sealed Gaara using a different method sacrificing Karura (Sand sib's mom) instead of her own life. Which adds credence to Yondaime's reasoning as even the Yondaime Kazekage (who is a general purpose a**hole) used his own wife and kid. But in the end that was a controlled lab experiment, the Fourth was in a heavy combat situation with an almighty virtually indestructable opponent. I think due to the nature of the Hidden Village (majority parents are Ninja expected casualties on missions) orphans are automatically provided for, example ; Sasuke, Iruka, and Naruto... all lived alone. Roof, clothes, food, other than that don't be a nuisance, probably can't be helped, A hidden Village is a Military installation not a daycare. Anyway I've eaten enough space, that's all I got....

[ArashiUzumaki]

I think that Naruto is son of the Fourth because they share the same blood type(B), and they both have blonde hair and blue eyes. They both use the same attacks like the Rasengan, and the abillty to summon Gammabuta. the Fourth was very strong ninja and might have fought simialr to the way nartuo fights but to a much greater degree. Like the fourth naruto was willing to give up his life to protect the ones he loves. For example during the fight against Gaara he said that he will protect Sasuke, and Sakura even if it cost him his life.

As naruto grows he is starting to look like the fourth, and the only reason why he didn't resemble to Fourth when he was a child is proabaly due to the effects of having the Kyuubi in him. Naruto has wisker shaped lines down his face and his face is fuller than the fourths, but that is proably due to having the Kyuubi inside of him. As the manga progresses Naruto is looking more like the Fourth.

Naruto's not that smart but that is becasue no one taught him anything because they were afraid of him becuase he contains the Kyuubi who attacked their village. He probaly learned almost all of the things he learned on his own because no one in the village liked him because the Kyuubi attacked the viilage and almost destroyed the entire vilage and people thought that he was a monster even though because he contained the demon fox. But Nartuo has gotten smarter and he learns things quickly. He learned how to use his chakra to climb trees durring the Zabuza arc, after he asked Sakura for advice, another example is how fast he learned and completed the rasengan, which took him a very short time to master. The rasengan took the Fourth arround 3 years to complete, but unlike the forurth he has almost completed adding his nature manlipulation to it, but he is still only half way done the technique. Naruto is also becomeing a better stragiest and he has gotten a lot smarter since he came back from his 2 two and a half year traing with Jiraya.

Another reason why I think that Naruto is the Fourths son is the fact that Jiraya, Itachi, and a few other characters have mentioned that Naruto that Nartuo looks like the Fourth, they haven't said he was the Fourths son. When Jiraya was trying to teach naruto how to summon things and how to accses the demon foxes chakra. Before Jiraya pushed Naruto he looked up into the sky and said, "Forgive me lord Fourth Hokage for what I am about to do." I'm not sure what Jiraya ment by this it could just mean that he was sory for what he was about to do, or there is a slight possiblity that he might know that Naruto is the Fourths son. But now I'm not sure about it now he might feel sory for Naruto because he could have died if he failed to accsess the Kyuubi's chakra. If Jiraya does think that Naruto is the Foruths son this could be the reason why he has taken Naruto as his student and why he is intrested in Narutos saftey, and why he is teaching him the techniques that he talt the Fourth, and why he wants naruto to become strong and wants to protect him. Itachi called Naruto the Fourths legacy and that he resembles the fourth, and that he just isn't as smart as him. Tsunade also said that Nartuo looks like the Fourth but he doesn't have the same manners and isn't as smart as the Fourth but that is because he had no one in his life to teach him these things. Finally the most recent charracter to say that Naruto looks like the Fourth is Kakashi, during Naruto training with the rensagen, and when Nartuo was trying to use the technique on Kakuzzu he said that he said that he sees the Fourth in Naruto, and he told Naruto that he thinks Nartuo will supass the Fourth. No character in Nartuo has specifically said that Nartuo is the Fourths son, I just think that Naruto is the Fourths son.

Another reason why I think that Naruto is the Fourths son is that he put the Kyuubi in Naruto for a reason, because he knew that Naruto would be able to contain the Kyuubi and that he wanted Naruto to remebered as a hero but the villagers didn't honor his request. There also had to be a reason why he chose Nartuo over all the other children in the village and this makes sense that he chose naruto his son because he had faith that Naruto would beable to contain the immense power of the Kyuubi, and the fact that Nartuos chakra is suppresing some of the Kyuubi's chakra, and the nature of the seal the Kyuubi's chakra and Narutos will become one and I think that Nartuo will be able to control all of it at some point and the Fourth proably thought this way too.

I think that narto remebers the fourths face because everytime he says that he wants to be greator than all the Hokages, and he spcifically mentions the foruth and he always points at the Fourth hokage, this proably becasue this might have been the first face he ever saw. There is a posabilty that he was present at Narutos birth this could either mean he is Narutos father, a relative, or a freind of the family. I think that the Fourth is Narutos father, he stayed by his wifes side until after his sons birth. After that he went off to fight the Kyuubi so he could save the villagers and possibly his son soon after this he knew that the Kyuubi was to strong to defeat and he used the reaper death seal to seal it into Naruto. I'm not sure why the Fourht chose Naruto as the container for the Kyuubi but he thought that Naruto could be able to contain the Kyuubi's chakra, and that he had faith that Narutos body could contain the Kyuubis chakra, but there could be alot of other reasons why he chose Naruto. I just belive that he chose Nartuo because he didn't want to put in another child, and that he proably knew that Nartuo would have the best chance to contain the Kyuubis immense chakra. So far it looks like he made the right choice since Nartuos own Chakra is supressing most of the Kyuubis chakra, and I think that anyone else would have died or the Kyuubi would have taken over them already.

If the villgers had honnored the Fourths request Naruto would have become a lot stronger, and smarter than he is now, since he will become the either the 6th, 7th, or 8th Hokage depending on when Tsunade dies, and what narutos age is at the time. Since the necklace that Tsunade gave him guarantees him that he will be a Hokage all he needs to do now is keep geting stronger and increase all of his skills mainly his intellgence but I think he could be a genius that was just left to fend for himself because everyone hated him, his progress that he has made is amazing since the begining of the story.

This is just a theory and there is no real proof that Nartuo is the son of the Fourth. Since Masashi Kishimoto has kept all the information about the Fourths past a secret, we won't know if the Fourth is Nartuos father, or a realative of Nartuo, or if they are even related. No one will know for sure until Kishimoto tells us some more about the Fourths past and family,or he tells us who Nartuos Father is, and what happen to his family. We just have to wait and see what Kishimoto has to say about Nartuos father and his family.

[Maruutsu]

Mostly you're just making assumptions, but I still agree with you on some points.

However, although some of the characters have compared Naruto to the Fourth, they have NOT called him his son.

When Jiraya was trying to teach naruto how to summon things and how to accsess the demon foxes chakra, and before Jiraya pushed Naruto he looked up into the sky and said, "Forgive me lord Fourth Hokage for what I am about to do" And the fact that he said this proves that he knows that Naruto is the Fourths son.
That doesn't mean he knows Naruto is the Fourth's son, it just means that he's sorry for what he's going to do. Which is, like you said, show Naruto how to access the kyuubi's chakra. The reason he's sorry is because the Fourth was the one that sealed the demon inside Naruto in the first place, not because he knows Naruto is his son.

[Prince of Perverts]

He was one of the weakest and now he is one of the strongest characters in the world of Naruto and there is no limmit to just how strong he will become, and I think this is the main reason why the Fourth chose his own son, and I belive that Naruto will become stronger than the Kyuubi its self and he will become the greatest Hokage the world of Nartuo has ever seen.

That is the stupidest statement of your whole little ramble of how Naruto and Yondaime are related some how... It might be your own opinion, but somethings are just idiotic. No offence.

"He was one of the weakest and now he is one of the strongest characters in the world of Naruto and there is no limmit to just how strong he will become" That is just stupid altogether... just because he surpassed Kakashi doesn't mean he's the strongest, are you crazy? Oh no! He made the FRS, he is pwnsome now! FRS might be awesome, but it'll shatter his dreams of being Hokage. And what are you talking about man, NO LIMIT TO HOW STRONG HE CAN BECOME??? There is a limit to everything! If Naruto can surpass Kyuubi then the whole Naruto world is FUCKED THE HELL UP! Kyuubi is a damn demon! Like what the hell... "With one wave of his penis, Naruto can level a mountain." "With a flick of his tongue, Naruto can kill God." That's what you're saying.

With that out of the way I'm free to say, I believe Naruto is something to the Yondaime. I have no idea what he is to Yondaime, but he is something. He could of been a cat to Yondaime for all I care, but he was still something of Yondaime! There's no proof so I'm just going to remain 50/50 on the subject because it isn't impossible for Naruto to just have a physical resemblance.

And for those of you who do not take Biology, just because they both had B type blood means nothing. My dad could have 'A' and my mom could have 'B' and I could end up with 'O', 'A', 'B', or 'AB' depending on the secondary enzymes they had.

[Maruutsu]

That's what happens when you let an 8 year old watch Naruto and then have access to (in the words of Gabzilla) the most dangerous thing in fandom... forums.

Like what the hell... "With one wave of his penis, Naruto can level a mountain." "With a flick of his tongue, Naruto can kill God."
LOL. Can you even imagine that?? xD

[ArashiUzumaki]

Now that I have read over I agree with the people who read my theroy and I did ramble on a lot and I should have thought more about some of the things I was typing, but I can always edit the post to make it better. I agree with that some of the things sound idotic now that I reread my post, I proably should have looked it over more before I posted it.

You right that I don't know to much about Biology, but isn't hair and eye color hereditary. How many other blonde hair and blue eyed ninjas have appeared in Naruto besides the Yamankas, and Tsunade. I don't remember seeing anyone else like that besides the Fourth, since we know that Naruto isn't a member of the Yamanka clan and he is not Tsunades son, so the only the blonde hair blue eyed person left that we have seen none other than the Fourth Hokage. So I still belive that Narutos father is the Fourth and no one is going to change my mind execept Masashi Kishimoto himself when he tells us who Narutos father is.

[Kaseiyo Arashi]

Guys i just want to comment in this thread that it could be posible that UZUMAKI NARUTO and UZUMAKI ARASHI ARE ONE.

1.Naruto was Born when Arashi use the sealing justu.
2.Naruto's Parents are Unknown
3.Maybe when arashi used that jutsu the effect is that he will be reborn.
4.At the 1st episode Arashi Jutsu is not the same what the 3rd Hokage did to Orochimaru. That animation of the 4th hokage when he sealed the Kyuubi is only a white flash...then there it goes...

sorry for my grammar :D

[X]

Guys i just want to comment in this thread that it could be posible that UZUMAKI NARUTO and UZUMAKI ARASHI ARE ONE.

Who is Uzumaki Arashi if i may ask?

[Hinata_Rules]

Who is Uzumaki Arashi if i may ask?

A translation of the impossible to read summoning scroll Jiraiya carries around.

[X]

A translation of the impossible to read summoning scroll Jiraiya carries around.

LMAO? People actually read the words from the scroll that he carries? That's just amazing to see such abilities of the forumers. O.O

[rukia-shinigami]

They have ti be related if theyre father and son not sure but it would make sense if he was yondaime's kid sacrificed his own child to protect the vilage

[Hinata_Rules]

If Yondaime is his father then it makes sense for the person to have signed it before Naruto to be his father, unfortunetly we don't know what the relationship is, if there is one at all besides him sealing 9 tails in there (Though I hope he is Naruto's father).

[wduran]

ummmmm....im for the idea that it was his son but, if thats not it, i also like the idea that they are related in some type of way.....but hopefully kishi will tell us before the end of the manga.......or else i'll be really pissed cuz i will feel confused about that unanswered question!
so basically....i say its his son!!

[cloudsymph]

I think that Naruto is son of the Fourth because they share the same blood type(B), and they both have blonde hair and blue eyes. They both use the same attacks like the Rasengan, and the abillty to summon Gammabuta. the Fourth was very strong ninja and might have fought simialr to the way nartuo fights but to a much greater degree. Like the fourth naruto was willing to give up his life to protect the ones he loves. For example during the fight against Gaara he said that he will protect Sasuke, and Sakura even if it cost him his life.

As naruto grows he is starting to look like the fourth, and the only reason why he didn't resemble to Fourth when he was a child is proabaly due to the effects of having the Kyuubi in him. Naruto has wisker shaped lines down his face and his face is fuller than the fourths, but that is proably due to having the Kyuubi inside of him. As the manga progresses Naruto is looking more like the Fourth.

Naruto's not that smart but that is becasue no one taught him anything because they were afraid of him becuase he contains the Kyuubi who attacked their village. He probaly learned almost all of the things he learned on his own because no one in the village liked him because the Kyuubi attacked the viilage and almost destroyed the entire vilage and people thought that he was a monster even though because he contained the demon fox. But Nartuo has gotten smarter and he learns things quickly. He learned how to use his chakra to climb trees durring the Zabuza arc, after he asked Sakura for advice, another example is how fast he learned and completed the rasengan, which took him a very short time to master. The rasengan took the Fourth arround 3 years to complete, but unlike the forurth he has almost completed adding his nature manlipulation to it, but he is still only half way done the technique. Naruto is also becomeing a better stragiest and he has gotten a lot smarter since he came back from his 2 two and a half year traing with Jiraya.

Another reason why I think that Naruto is the Fourths son is the fact that Jiraya, Itachi, and a few other characters have mentioned that Naruto that Nartuo looks like the Fourth, they haven't said he was the Fourths son. When Jiraya was trying to teach naruto how to summon things and how to accses the demon foxes chakra. Before Jiraya pushed Naruto he looked up into the sky and said, "Forgive me lord Fourth Hokage for what I am about to do." I'm not sure what Jiraya ment by this it could just mean that he was sory for what he was about to do, or there is a slight possiblity that he might know that Naruto is the Fourths son. But now I'm not sure about it now he might feel sory for Naruto because he could have died if he failed to accsess the Kyuubi's chakra. If Jiraya does think that Naruto is the Foruths son this could be the reason why he has taken Naruto as his student and why he is intrested in Narutos saftey, and why he is teaching him the techniques that he talt the Fourth, and why he wants naruto to become strong and wants to protect him. Itachi called Naruto the Fourths legacy and that he resembles the fourth, and that he just isn't as smart as him. Tsunade also said that Nartuo looks like the Fourth but he doesn't have the same manners and isn't as smart as the Fourth but that is because he had no one in his life to teach him these things. Finally the most recent charracter to say that Naruto looks like the Fourth is Kakashi, during Naruto training with the rensagen, and when Nartuo was trying to use the technique on Kakuzzu he said that he said that he sees the Fourth in Naruto, and he told Naruto that he thinks Nartuo will supass the Fourth. No character in Nartuo has specifically said that Nartuo is the Fourths son, I just think that Naruto is the Fourths son.

Another reason why I think that Naruto is the Fourths son is that he put the Kyuubi in Naruto for a reason, because he knew that Naruto would be able to contain the Kyuubi and that he wanted Naruto to remebered as a hero but the villagers didn't honor his request. There also had to be a reason why he chose Nartuo over all the other children in the village and this makes sense that he chose naruto his son because he had faith that Naruto would beable to contain the immense power of the Kyuubi, and the fact that Nartuos chakra is suppresing some of the Kyuubi's chakra, and the nature of the seal the Kyuubi's chakra and Narutos will become one and I think that Nartuo will be able to control all of it at some point and the Fourth proably thought this way too.

I think that narto remebers the fourths face because everytime he says that he wants to be greator than all the Hokages, and he spcifically mentions the foruth and he always points at the Fourth hokage, this proably becasue this might have been the first face he ever saw. There is a posabilty that he was present at Narutos birth this could either mean he is Narutos father, a relative, or a freind of the family. I think that the Fourth is Narutos father, he stayed by his wifes side until after his sons birth. After that he went off to fight the Kyuubi so he could save the villagers and possibly his son soon after this he knew that the Kyuubi was to strong to defeat and he used the reaper death seal to seal it into Naruto. I'm not sure why the Fourht chose Naruto as the container for the Kyuubi but he thought that Naruto could be able to contain the Kyuubi's chakra, and that he had faith that Narutos body could contain the Kyuubis chakra, but there could be alot of other reasons why he chose Naruto. I just belive that he chose Nartuo because he didn't want to put in another child, and that he proably knew that Nartuo would have the best chance to contain the Kyuubis immense chakra. So far it looks like he made the right choice since Nartuos own Chakra is supressing most of the Kyuubis chakra, and I think that anyone else would have died or the Kyuubi would have taken over them already.

If the villgers had honnored the Fourths request Naruto would have become a lot stronger, and smarter than he is now, since he will become the either the 6th, 7th, or 8th Hokage depending on when Tsunade dies, and what narutos age is at the time. Since the necklace that Tsunade gave him guarantees him that he will be a Hokage all he needs to do now is keep geting stronger and increase all of his skills mainly his intellgence but I think he could be a genius that was just left to fend for himself because everyone hated him, his progress that he has made is amazing since the begining of the story.

This is just a theory and there is no real proof that Nartuo is the son of the Fourth. Since Masashi Kishimoto has kept all the information about the Fourths past a secret, we won't know if the Fourth is Nartuos father, or a realative of Nartuo, or if they are even related. No one will know for sure until Kishimoto tells us some more about the Fourths past and family,or he tells us who Nartuos Father is, and what happen to his family. We just have to wait and see what Kishimoto has to say about Nartuos father and his family.


no offense but this was a horrible explanation with very bad points to back it up. but there were also good points just yeah.

[yukishiro]

A translation of the impossible to read summoning scroll Jiraiya carries around.

They don't look like Japanese words at all and I can't read them. I think Yondaime is Naruto's father. The look alike just that Naruto has the whiskers due to Kyuubi inside him.

In the manga, Naruto reminded Kakashi of Yondaime. It was during the RasenShuriken training. Looking at this scene made me feel that they are really related to each other.

[Hinata_Rules]

A translation of the impossible to read summoning scroll Jiraiya carries around.They don't look like Japanese words at all and I can't read them. I think Yondaime is Naruto's father. The look alike just that Naruto has the whiskers due to Kyuubi inside him.

In the manga, Naruto reminded Kakashi of Yondaime. It was during the RasenShuriken training. Looking at this scene made me feel that they are really related to each other.

Everyone seems to miss the "Impossible" part of that statement. Well, it is hard to convey sarcasim and emotion in message boards

yeah, that is another argument for a relationship between the two

[Rasengan12]

LOOK AT THEIR HAIR! that is all.

[Atanih88]

Personally, I do think they're father and son, yes.

I just like the idea of the 4th choosing to use his own son rather than asking someone to make the sacrifice and/or finding some random kid who's parents just died.

I'd consider that a Mission Success. :D

I agree with this, I think Naruto is most probably Yondaime's son and that he chose his own son, in his mind he had no idea that he villagers would turn on Naruto like that and probably expected his son to be viewed as a hero...

Anyway, I think there are too many similarities between the two including the level of their power and well - both trained by Jiraiya? Both developed rasengan - Naruto further than Yondaime - both summon Gamabunta... both have blond hair a cute smile and saw thei furture as Hokage - which Yondaime actually was... and also Naruto seems to want to prove himself and actually frames Yondaime's monument before leaving the village... perhaps showing that he fels unconsciously the connection between himself and the 4th also when Jiraiya shoved Naruto of the damn cliff so he could tap in to Kyubi's power what did he say? 'forgive me 4th' heh makes you think doesn't it?

anyway... once again I got carried away :P gomen, gomen :)

[the_sloth]

Don't forget how Itachi refered to Naruto as the "Legacy of the 4th"

[cloudsymph]

well being the legacy of someone doesn't mean they are related, nor does someone reminding you of someone else make those 2 people related.

but imo they will be father and son and also it's most likely going to be whats going to happen and if yondaime's name was illegible on the scroll kind of means they don't want you knowing his name because it will most likely be uzamaki as the last name.

[susuke_kiba]

I think to that the 4 hokage is the father of naruto =) because naruto look like the fourth hokage when he grown up. And i think that the fourth hokage gave his son (naruto) to become a heroe with the kyuubi in his body. He wouldn't sacrifice another baby, so he choose his son!! :3

[Chieri Blossom]

IMHO they could be related, but it does not have to be in a father/son way. They also could be brothers.

[Hinata_Rules]

IMHO they could be related, but it does not have to be in a father/son way. They also could be brothers.

It could be but I highly doubt that one for some reason

[tidus1]

I think that Yondaime is Naruto father. You guys have given plenty of the same reasons i have. I just wanted to state my opinion. I hope that this is true other wise I'm going to be so disappointed.

[Elle]

Yes - I think Yondaime is Naruto's father. It will be interesting to see how (and when... /sigh) Kishimoto will fill us in on Naruto's family history.

It's fun to be able to research and speculate on the 'Uchiha' clan because of all the hints that Kishi has provided already in the manga - now it's time for some hints for the 'Uzumaki' clan.

[Yakushi Kabuto]

I think that they could be related, but as for being father and son, for some reason I think they are a little more distant than that.

[Ambs1516]

I really do think that they are father and son. If you take off the whiskers from Naruto's face and grow out his hair, then he will look like the 4th! Besides, why would he put Kyuubi in another person's child? The 4th would most likely sacrifice his own child before another person's so they wouldn't have to fear their own kid. I think the 4th knew Naruto would not be considered a hero, but basically had no choice and seal the demon in him. However, I am really curious as to whom the mother is since there are no clues to that case at all.

[Hio]

Yup,, Yondaime is an Uzumaki!

[Kary]

On top of all that was previously mentioned, remember when Jiraiya was teaching Naruto to summon Gamabunta. As Jiraiya pushed Naruto off the cliff, he said "Forgive me, 4th."

I definitely think Yondaime is Naruto's father. I can't wait to get more background on Uzumaki! :nuts

[Jeroen]

Yup, I think Yondaime is Naruto's father.:P

[grilledcrab]

Definately the father, appearance wise-gotta have the same genes. now the question is, whos da mum? OoO

[DemonUchiha]

hey i am new but do u know why he did it? put the ninetailed fox in naruto??? I know the real reason

[sizzler]

Blonde hair, huge smile, fast, Rasengan, and determination - these are the traits that Naruto and the Yondaime Hokage share. But is there a connection that runs as deep as blood? It's been a debate that has been going on for awhile now.

The debate gets even better when Naruto is always compared with Yondaime in potential and jutsu usage. And that Yondaime could've been in his mid to late twenties when he had fought the Kyuubi and sacrificed his life to save the Leaf Village.

Why did he choose the baby Naruto instead of any other child? Was it because Naruto's parents had just been killed and it was convenient? or was it because the 4th felt obliged to use no other child other than his own because he couldn't bring himself to ask someone else to make the sacrifice?

Is the 4th Naruto's father, brother, cousin, etc? What do you think?
can u explain what u mean by fast !

anyway i had a feeling that naruto is related to the 4th in some way and u are right why would be seal kyuubi in narutoand not sasuke or anyother ninja it probably means that he had some sort of relationship with naruto .

[Sirah]

But Jiraiya said "forgive me 4th"
well i think he cud have meant 2 things:

1. naruto is some sort of rebirth of the 4th hokage, and he said sorry to him.

2. naruto is the son of the 4th and Jiraiya said sorry to the 4th for pushing naruto down there.

well thets what i think..:oh

(sorry for my English) =P
ask me if you didn't understand...:nod

[DemonUchiha]

well do u know the 4th hokage is the akatsuki leader????

[Hoshigake Kisame]

They have the same color and style hair and have same jutsus: rasengan and frog summoning, so I think they are related.

[kabutomaru?]

it is very possible that naruto is yondaime's son.
they have a lot of similar characteristics.

[Darktitan84]

like everyone else i believed the the 4th and naruto were father and son or related in some way (pluswhen u think about it its a bit cliche in terms of story lines) but the a friend of mine told me his theory and when u sit down a think about it really makes sense.....that Naruto is the 4th.

Im not talking about time travel or sumthing like that but this being a side effect the 4th using the death jutsu on something like the Kyuubi. this is where the theory get interesting; the 4th intended to kill the nine-tails not seal it in someone or his "son" but when he completed the Jutsu the Nine-Tails was too powerfully to contain even by death itself and he and the nine-tails were reincarnated as Naruto.

Now the other reasons i think this is true is the seal on Naruto's stomach the sameone that appeared when the 3rd finished the jutsu fighting the 1st, 2nd & Orochimaru. Also think that Jutsu was meant to kill ur opponent and urself not seal it in another person, so why would the 4th feel the need to seal the nine-tails in someone if he could kill it, let alone his own son.

Now the reincarnation theory also makes sense when u think about how fast Naruto can learn jutsus that the 4th himself, who was a genius took years to learn.

im gonna end it here but i'd really like to hear what everyone else thinks of this theory

[Tyrannos]

well do u know the 4th hokage is the akatsuki leader????

The Yondaime is clearly NOT the Akatsuki Leader. This all started because of someone made a fake manga page, which you can find at the bottom of this link:

http://www.absoluteanime.com/naruto/4th_hokage.htm

The Akatsuki Leader is physically much different than the Yondaime than the obvious Auburn Hair and the piercings, but also the beard and the nose structure are different. And of course the Yondaime is confirmed dead by Kishimoto himself and the Databooks also say that the Yondaime is dead!

Don't forget how Itachi refered to Naruto as the "Legacy of the 4th"

It's ashame people discredit what you said, and you are correct. What people don't understand is that the word ISAN was used, that means not only "Legacy", but can also mean "child" or "lineage". Quite the interesting word to use, for it not only describes the Kyuubi inside Naruto, but also Naruto himself.

Also, people mentioned Jiraiya saying "Forgive me, Fourth."

What people don't know, this has been used in stories on TV, Movies, and also Anime. This always happens when the friend of a deceased parent is about to teach the friend's child a harsh lesson. And we know what that harsh lesson was for Naruto, to able him to learn to use the Kyuubi's chakra.


And the recent Overlay of Kakashi seeing the Yondaime and Naruto in Chapter 339.

This too is a symbolic way of someone seeing "like father, like son" moment. Which people also should remember that Tsunade and Jiraiya also compared Naruto to the Yondaime in the bar so long ago.

This shows that indeed Naruto is the son of the Yondaime. But Kishimoto is keeping it very low key for when Naruto is told the truth about his life by one of his mentors (Kakashi, Tsunade, or Kakashi).

[Kuroro]

The Yondaime is clearly NOT the Akatsuki Leader. This all started because of someone made a fake manga page, which you can find at the bottom of this link:

http://www.absoluteanime.com/naruto/4th_hokage.htm

The Akatsuki Leader is physically much different than the Yondaime than the obvious Auburn Hair and the piercings, but also the beard and the nose structure are different. And of course the Yondaime is confirmed dead by Kishimoto himself and the Databooks also say that the Yondaime is dead!



It's ashame people discredit what you said, and you are correct. What people don't understand is that the word ISAN was used, that means not only "Legacy", but can also mean "child" or "lineage". Quite the interesting word to use, for it not only describes the Kyuubi inside Naruto, but also Naruto himself.

Also, people mentioned Jiraiya saying "Forgive me, Fourth."

What people don't know, this has been used in stories on TV, Movies, and also Anime. This always happens when the friend of a deceased parent is about to teach the friend's child a harsh lesson. And we know what that harsh lesson was for Naruto, to able him to learn to use the Kyuubi's chakra.


And the recent Overlay of Kakashi seeing the Yondaime and Naruto in Chapter 339.

I feel inclined to quote GB when it comes to Yondaime = AL theories: "Kishimoto and Databook are wrong." (It lacks Ando's spaz unfortunately.)

This shows that indeed Naruto is the son of the Yondaime. But Kishimoto is keeping it very low key for when Naruto is told the truth about his life by one of his mentors (Kakashi, Tsunade, or Kakashi).

And it proves beyond unreasonable doubt Naruto's supreme denseness once again.

[Jυstin]

Even without that info(which is dead on, plus there are more inuendos pointing to Yondaime's fatherhood of Naruto), I would bet my left ear on Naruto being Yondaime's son.

[TsukiNSakuHana]

I think they're father and son.

[Jyunin_Kyuubigrl]

Blonde hair, huge smile, fast, Rasengan, and determination - these are the traits that Naruto and the Yondaime Hokage share. But is there a connection that runs as deep as blood? It's been a debate that has been going on for awhile now.

The debate gets even better when Naruto is always compared with Yondaime in potential and jutsu usage. And that Yondaime could've been in his mid to late twenties when he had fought the Kyuubi and sacrificed his life to save the Leaf Village.

Why did he choose the baby Naruto instead of any other child? Was it because Naruto's parents had just been killed and it was convenient? or was it because the 4th felt obliged to use no other child other than his own because he couldn't bring himself to ask someone else to make the sacrifice?

Is the 4th Naruto's father, brother, cousin, etc? What do you think?

I personally think they are father in son just bc of how much foreshadowing their had been around the two of them; add to that the fact that we know nothing of Naruto's lineage and all of about zero about Yondaime. It just seems that K.M. did so much work to make us keep connecting the two blonde dynamos and left their past mysterious for a reason. Honestly as long as we get some resolution on their past I'm okay though if they weren't related I'd be shocked....

[Circe]

Father and son.
EDIT:
well do u know the 4th hokage is the akatsuki leader????
That's most likely just rumour. As far as I'm concerned, Yondaime is dead in the pit of the Death god's stomache.

[Shodai]

Father and Son, obviously

[loizoskounios]

In my opinion, they are related and I really want them to be related. (especially a father-son relationship)

I've read most of the pages and I have to say that there are many valid points. Some people just notice every single detail! *thumbs up*

Now, adding my two cents:

Does anyone else think that the scroll that Jiraiya is carrying has everything written in gibberish so that Naruto fans will play this "are-they-relatives?" game? The way I see it, Kishi wants to let people do their research and forge their own theories without giving them directly the certain answer - hence having written the names on the scroll in a illegible way. OR, and this is a bit far-stretched may I add, he simply wants to keep it an option at the moment. I mean, he went ahead and set this whole thing up, but he hasn't decided yet if he wants Naruto to be Yondaime's son. If he had simply written "Uzumaki" on the scroll everyone would get a definite answer that Naruto is Yondaime's son - or at the very least a really great percentage of Yondaime being Naruto's father. The gibberish on the scroll serve their purpose and they weren't coincidentally written that way in my opinion.

[A Neverending Fire]

If they aren't father and son, then Naruto must be a relative of Yondaime's. Come on, would the Hokage, leader and protector of the village, grab some random kid frolicking around town and seal something huge and powerful into him?

Plus, their hair, eyes, and behavior are too similar to be unrelated.

And also, we know that Jiraiya used to be Yondaime's teacher and he cared a lot for Yondaime. He's also Naruto's teacher and he cares a lot for Naruto, always giving that look to him. He's seeing Yondaime again; he's reliving the past and watching another Yondaime grow up.

[sizzler]

4th & naruto . maybe. i wish

[Tyrannos]

And it proves beyond unreasonable doubt Naruto's supreme denseness once again.

Naruto may be dense from the Anime, but he isn't as such in the manga.

Besides, from Naruto's perspective, why would Naruto ask them about his family if he didn't know there was a connection? As far as he knows Jiraiya was the teacher of the Yondaime and Kakashi was the student of the Yondaime. Now if he knew his father was the Yondaime, then he surely would've asked. :P

[nkon]

naruto is the 4th penis or father

[Death2Ninja]

I have a weird theory,

but I believe in some possiblities.

* Maybe Naruto is a reincarnation of the 4th, instead of a sibling/child of the 4th.

I don't know how I came up with this, but it kinda sounds interesting
Maybe Naruto was a random kid that the 4th chose. Maybe Naruto was a child of somebody else, but after tha fourth extracted the Kyuubi into Naruto, some of his genes somehow got dissolved into Naruto's genes himself, and since he was a new born baby, it would affect him easily. It's possible, I mean, look at the Kyuubi's whisker marks thingy on his cheeks. But I dunno, it's just a theory. That's probably the reason why nobody tells Naruto the truth, because it's too complicated to understand that? Or they probably didn't know why.

[Zachy]

I think they could be father and son, just like Gaara and his dad. I mean they're both the 4th kages of their villages and they have a son with a monster sealed in their body.
That's just what I'm thinking haha.

But Yondaime looks like Naruto so why not? Have you also seen the endings? Naruto kinda looks like yondaime with those clothes.

[Katon]

Me too! They are father and son!

[Levithian]

yes...they could be...

[Repstorm]

Yeah, they are probably father and son.

[Kakashi man]

I would have to agree with your agurements.

Who in their right mind would ask someone else to give up their child?

I also believe that Naruto is the 4th's son.
well, another person might have volunteerd their child. (which is unlikely, and i hope it isnt true, but whatevr)

[Yerion]

Yeah my first post smile-big smile-big smile-big smile-big

here's my opion about the rumors naruto being a reincarnation
of the 4th
look back at episode 69 when orochimaru
uses a forbidding summing no jutsu
that call's up 3 coffins but the 3th stoped the third one
(i think one of the reasons they didn't want the third one to open cause everybody would see the 4th is dead and then people woulden't be making weird theories and having fun making things up :amuse )
and the 1th and 2th step out the other two
so it's only logical that the 4th was in the third coffin

i believe that naruto is the son of the 4th
i mean ARE YOU BLIND! :P
plus why would Kishimoto keep the past of naruto and the 4th
such a big secret:wink

and naruto should be a brought out on a daily basis not a weekly :cry
I don't like waiting :laugh :laugh

[Dorin]

I would think that Naruto is related to the 4th in someway because when Jiraya threw him into the rocky pits he said "4th forgive me" or something like that.

[FoxSpirit]

Yes, i think they're father and son, i mean cause look at their hair. They both know rasengan and they just look exactly alike.

[Ace Armstrong]

He has to be related to Naruto or else he is a basterd son!

[.:Arti:.]

They are father and son..
And to the people who think that..
AL=Yondaime
AL is the awesome PEIN

[ivan_j_morera]

i agree the fourth is naruto's father since there naruto was the sacrafice and no other child

[Levithian]

Yeah they are father and son, so...

[Ryu-Ko]

Although you'd think it's almost TOO obvious, I have to go with that and say he's his father :oh

[Katon]

I agree!
I think they are! :)

[Apollo]

What do you know, they are!

[Chee]

I was right...:pek

[Inuhanyou]

._. this thread is a bit outdated, yeah?

[Apollo]

I wonder what the people who said they weren't were like........

[pal2002]

lol I can't believe somebody bumped this up too now it's all been revealed and all...

[Z.:Momochi:.Z]

:(He is related to him probably......But who could be his mom? Thats why they shoulve asked the 4th who he banged. now we will never know....

[Chee]

:(He is related to him probably......But who could be his mom? Thats why they shoulve asked the 4th who he banged. now we will never know....

Uzumaki Kushina

[Creator]

They are related. :oh The 4th is Naruto's father. :oh

[Renaika56]

What I think is that they are realted (because the manga even stated so; though it was indirectly), and that Naruto had his last name changed to Uzumaki after his mom for some reason (probably to protect him from someone/thing) Or...Kishi just did that to mess with our minds, a lot.

[Tyki Mikk]

No, they are not father and son. :LOS

[Hinata_Rules]

No, they are not father and son. :LOS

Jiraya and Tsunade in the Manga before Jiraya left for the waterfall(?) village said who Naruto's Father and Mother were. The father is the 4th and the mothers name was said earlier in the thread who is from the waterfall(?) village and the Uzumaki family name comes from her.

Actually I believe this was an OK time for this thread to reemerge since we now have the answers to who Naruto's parents are. It just has to be spoiled so those who don't read the manga don't get this aspect of the story spoiled for them

[ownageprince]

The resemblance is uncanny..I say he is the dad!

[Tyki Mikk]

Jiraya and Tsunade in the Manga before Jiraya left for the waterfall(?) village said who Naruto's Father and Mother were. The father is the 4th and the mothers name was said earlier in the thread who is from the waterfall(?) village and the Uzumaki family name comes from her.

Actually I believe this was an OK time for this thread to reemerge since we now have the answers to who Naruto's parents are. It just has to be spoiled so those who don't read the manga don't get this aspect of the story spoiled for them

You just indirectly gave a spoiler. :wink

You ruined my joke. :arg

[Hinata_Rules]

You just indirectly gave a spoiler. :wink

You ruined my joke. :arg

How? All I said is we got an answer in the manga. I mean there are two basic groups, those who say he is, and those who say he isn't. Only one is right and we now know which group it is, never said which

[3sights]

Father and son,
I can definately see it.
:oh

[Rios]

Nah they are not related :LOS .

[Mike Hunt]

No. I AM 100 PERCENT SURE that they are not related in shape, form, size.

:zaru :LOS :zaru

[Marluxia]

If they are in ANY way related, I'm killing myself right here and now. My mind can't take that kind of plot twist. :P

[Heavens Wrath]

There's no way they're related. :awesome

Kishimoto would never hold off on something that big for so long :LOS

[kyuubi425]

Tobi's his daddy.:LOS

[Kusogitsune]

No, he's actually Kisame's son.

[Yellow]

If they are in ANY way related, I'm killing myself right here and now. My mind can't take that kind of plot twist. :P

Well looks like it's time to kill yourself since chapter 367 and 382 of the manga confirms they are related.:nuts

[Lilykt7]

The 4th and Naruto?....I don't see it

[Squigi]

u guys... read the damn manga. lol

[Heavens Wrath]

u guys... read the damn manga. lol

Apparently you haven't if you still believe Yondaime is his father! :awesome


We've been joking.

[Lilykt7]

Apparently you haven't if you still believe Yondaime is his father! :awesome


We've been joking.

lawl bunch a noobz:LOS

[Rios]

u guys... read the damn manga. lol

I dun read the manga.

I am anime watcher. Dub anime watcher :pek .

[ryuukari]

No, he's actually Kisame's son.

If Kisame's his father, who would be his mother?

I vote Gai.

KisaGai ftw!

[Hinata_Rules]

If Kisame's his father, who would be his mother?

I vote Gai.

KisaGai ftw!

I thought Kisame would have slightly better taste, so probably end up with Orchimaru or Itachi

[taku]

I dun read the manga.

I am anime watcher. Dub anime watcher :pek .

So :awesome.

[Confused]

Is this topic even necessary now that the Yondaime is Naruto's father speculation is confirmed?

[Obito]

I definitely think they are father and son. Not much is known about Naruto's parents except the fact that they died by Kyubii. Kyubii may have killed Naruto's mother and then Yondaime sacrificed himself to seal the demon which after all would be dieing by Kyubii. There are too many similarities for there not to be some sort of relation. I'd be going with father though as people generally have there first child during there mid to late twenties and Naruto was a baby when Yondaime's death occurred. No one has ever spoken of Naruto's brother or cousin as the subject doesn't arise much.

[vash4me]

Well... if you know anything... you know that Naruto IS the son of the 4th Hokage. His Mother and Father named him Naruto after the main character in Jiraiya's less popular book about a ninja who never gave up. Jiraiya asked them to reconsider because it was a random name he came upon while eating Ramen. His mother and father gave him an off version of his mothers last name.

*note the Kyuubi didn't kill his mother*

[dodgekfc]

yes they are father nd son

[forgotten_hero]

Well... if you know anything... you know that Naruto IS the son of the 4th Hokage. His Mother and Father named him Naruto after the main character in Jiraiya's less popular book about a ninja who never gave up. Jiraiya asked them to reconsider because it was a random name he came upon while eating Ramen. His mother and father gave him an off version of his mothers last name.

*note the Kyuubi didn't kill his mother*

I have read the current manga, and I don't remember them saying what happened to Naruto's mom, Kushina. I remember the conversation regarding his name and the book, but when did they mention what happened to his mom? The only hint is that she has been refered to in the past tense.

[tigerwoo]

i think naruto is probably the son of the fourth and his grandmother is probably Tsunade. there aren't that many blondes in konoha.

also, haku is probably sasuke's long lost sister. they also have similar hair colours.

[MikageHanashi]

Yep I think they are related. Like what Kyuubi said that the blood of the fourth runs in Naruto's blood..

[Tyrannos]

i think naruto is probably the son of the fourth and his grandmother is probably Tsunade. there aren't that many blondes in konoha.

also, haku is probably sasuke's long lost sister. they also have similar hair colours.

Naruto is the son of the Yondaime (Minato Namikaze).

And no, Tsunade isn't related. However Jiraiya is Naruto's Godfather.

[QuothTheRaven]

Is this topic even necessary now that the Yondaime is Naruto's father speculation is confirmed?

This is HoU, so not everyone will have read the manga. Ig this were in the Konoha library section, then it would be pointless.

[HappySoy]

I already had an inkling that the 4th Hokgage was naruto's father. This was way back, early in the manga, when they started showing what the 4th looked like.

People seemed to be in denial.

besides, they already proved that in the manga and showed what naruto's mother looked like.

[[MA]Sinister666]

I already had an inkling that the 4th Hokgage was naruto's father. This was way back, early in the manga, when they started showing what the 4th looked like.

People seemed to be in denial.

besides, they already proved that in the manga and showed what naruto's mother looked like. Ok, 1. Your a moron! Some people haven't read the manga yet, so if you say things like that put it in a spoiler box! And yes, The 4th Hokage - Minato is Naruto's father and his name was picked from one of Jiriaya's books!

[vane]

does anybody really read the manga if they dont know the answer?

[Blackpretzel]

They've been in the same vagina.

The only difference is that one came out of it after the other went in :zaru

[Sebastian]

:ninja I read manga, so I know :ninja

Yes, yes he is

But if I didn't Read manga! I would say its very likely.

[Shinigami♥]

Yes I do believe they are father and son.
Why would he choose Naruto, if he isn't?

[azn_fan_gurl]

I have always thought so.

So it wasn't a shock to me at all when the truth was revealed.

[Reina_Miyamoto]

Naruto is the son of Minato Namikaze aka the 4th hokage he gets his last name from his mom Kushina Uzumaki

[Gecka]

well seing as how it's already been covered in the manga that Naruto is the SON of yondy, yes he is kinda related to him :zaru

[forgotten_hero]

i think naruto is probably the son of the fourth and his grandmother is probably Tsunade. there aren't that many blondes in konoha.

also, haku is probably sasuke's long lost sister. they also have similar hair colours.

The Yamanka clan doesn't have blond hair or blue eyes huh?

Black hair isn't common, is it? And Haku has the Sharingan and Sasuke has control over ice?

[Kuran]

they are father and son :LOS

[303aegiszx]

they are father and son :LOS
Just like Gai and Lee. :LOS

[Ower8x]

Why is this tread even going one?
only for those who read the manga.
382Page13 (http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter382.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=46257)
This is not to discusion any more. It is a canon fact.

[Takumi]

His real name is Minato Namikaze.He's married to Kushina,their son is Naruto :awesome

[Ritamaru_Namikaze]

His mother is Kushina Uzumaki of the Whirlpool Village, that is a fact. I do so believe that the 4th is Naruto's father because of the attitude, the looks, the jutsu range, and who else would the fourth have used besides his own son. Naruto was supposed to be seen as the hero for having the fox in him, but instead the fourth is viewed as the hero. Minato's last request before death was for naruto to grow up and be seen as a hero but instead the village goes against this request and they see right through the person and only see what is inside of him.

[kenichikyle11]

His mother is Kushina Uzumaki of the Whirlpool Village, that is a fact. I do so believe that the 4th is Naruto's father because of the attitude, the looks, the jutsu range, and who else would the fourth have used besides his own son. Naruto was supposed to be seen as the hero for having the fox in him, but instead the fourth is viewed as the hero. Minato's last request before death was for naruto to grow up and be seen as a hero but instead the village goes against this request and they see right through the person and only see what is inside of him.

(on the side note...somebody grave dug this post..... but anyway)

i agree with what Ritamaru_Namikaze has posted.

..nothing much i can state really. lol :laugh

[Gaara of the Sand]

Manga spoiler

Minato Namikaze AKA Yondai Hokage is Naruto's father

[John Cena]

of course they r they even look the same....:notrust

[SamRH]

I would never believe such a thing. :awesome

Yeah, they are father and son. :love

[☆Northstar☆]

This thread is old. The answer was already confirmed in the manga.

yes they are father and son.

[Ritamaru_Namikaze]

how can people not see how they are related I mean come on.

didnt think i would run into a zabuza so fast on this site... Just hope your not like the one that I was once married too and had a kid with...

[Robotkiller]

Topic has been answered in the manga.

Plus, old thread is oooolllllddd.