Who should Naruto end up with?/Your favorite pairing with Naruto?

[Veil of Dreams]

IMO, a stretch, but I can definitely understand that reasoning.

In any case, what Naruto/Sakura needs at this point is a concrete indication of Sakura having romantic feelings towards Naruto, and she doesn't have it. At least not yet.

Well, they would see it that way, but its again arguable if such a view would be accurate....

SasuSaku= as of now, a pairing that catered to the old and undeveloped Sakura, idolizing Sasuke while barely acknowledging/showing hard feelings for Naruto. (Kishimoto himself states that Sakura was meant to be hated as a first impression). I am not denying that there is a distinct chance for SasuSaku to be the pairing for Sakura (it is a much more believable pairing then NaruHina IMO), but I am under the theory that Sakura's romantic inclinations (not the deeper, 'love for a teammate' feelings) was one of the many things that Kishimoto has 'changed' about Sakura during the Part 1/Part 2 transition. We will know for sure when Sakura and Sasuke are featured in more chappies.

Sakura lost most of her maturity over the course of part 1, not in the transition between parts. Sakura's love confession came when she had matured considerably and had a far better grasp of Sasuke's flaws and shortcomings than she had at the beginning of the manga. Since Sakura's feelings certainly didn't weaken, and may in fact have strengthened, despite her increased maturity and more realistic view of Sasuke, I find it unfeasible to say that Sakura "matured" out of her feelings for Sasuke.

NaruHina= AS OF NOW, it is pretty hard to see this pairing as anything other then an Arc fling (I touched on this in past posts), really no different from Naruto meeting and helping out other characters like Gaara and Neji. The major difference is that Hinata just so happens to have a crush on him. Apart from the fainting thing, Naruto has already helped Hinata. Her problem, in a nutshell, was that she was lacking self-worth and gave up too quickly. Problem solved by end of Chuunin Exams. Because no definite NaruHina interaction took place outside of the Chuunin Exam arc, it really shouldn't be seen as throwing away character development... as character WAS developed within that arc in Hinata's case.

Well, the events on the training field could be seen as having set up a foundation for a future romantic relationship. Additionally, judging from Hinata's regrettably brief post-time jump appearance, she apparently still has her romantic feelings for Naruto, and she's apparently "not ready" for something... Plus, judging from how Hinata fainted, it looks like she still has a way to go in her quest to change herself, so her theme relevance is still present. But we'll have to wait until the team 8 arc to see if Hinata's future relevance will include "Naruto's romantic interest".

NaruSaku= a pairing that, more or less, has been developed from the start of the series until now. As Mizura touched upon excellently in her essays, their development has been more subtle in Part 1, which is why most people (including myself) never really saw it as a possible pairing. And then in Part 2, things began to come to a head. Even now there development is covered in subtletly and is very easy to 'ignore', or draw many conclusions from it. Now the validity of their development being a romantic one is up for debate... but the fact that NaruSaku has been given much more development then NaruHina really is not. Kishimoto would be throwing much more development out of the window if he suddenly chose to abandon NaruSaku for NaruHina.

The main difference between Naruto/Sakura and the others is the "romantic interests" issue. The only concrete romantic interests we have right now are Hinata -> Naruto, Naruto -> Sakura, and Sakura -> Sasuke. Naruto/Sakura could be seen as throwing out the romantic interests and development on Hinata's and Sakura's parts towards Naruto and Sasuke, respectively.

However, Naruto/Sakura is unique in the case that Naruto's interest could feasibly be seen as having been "thrown out" during the promise of a lifetime, and Sakura's potential developments towards Naruto can still be written off as friendship development at this point, since Naruto used to always be second to Sasuke in every case, not simply romance.

As for Naruto's post-time jump "advances" towards Sakura, I have a hard time taking them seriously for a couple reasons. First, Naruto doesn't seem to be taking them as seriously as he did in part 1, either. This is reinforced by my second reason, which is that Naruto has already accepted Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, and currently has no reason to believe Sakura's feelings have changed. Sure, Naruto obviously still has interest in Sakura, but in the current circumstances I can't see his "advances" as any more than comedy.

But yeah, those are just my arguments.

And those are mine. Unfortunately, perspective will no doubt intervene and prevent us from reconciling our differences. :cry

LOL, sorry! When I said rabid NaruHina fans, I didn't mean it in the context that all NaruHina were rabid. I was singling out the rabid ones exclusively.

And NaruSaku fans are agressive, not rabid. :kthumb

Then why did I have to get shots the last time one bit me? :cry

He never has a problem drawing Hinata correctly!:cry

True... A fact Naruto will hopefully soon appreciate. Looks like Jiraiya may have been good for something after all! :kthumb

[Dark Aether]

NaruHina, NaruHina, NaruHina, and did i forget to mention NaruHina?

[X]

Asuma x Kurenai :)

[X]

I never really knew if Naruto was interested in Hinata, But Naruto will definitely keep trying Sakura if Sasuke doesn't come up anytime soon :p

[Cyckness]

In any case, what Naruto/Sakura needs at this point is a concrete indication of Sakura having romantic feelings towards Naruto, and she doesn't have it. At least not yet.

I believe that it has already more or less been shown, its all a matter of what fans are willing to admit they see and what they aren't. Still, I believe Kishimoto will make it incredibly plain soon enough... just a little more time. :)



Sakura lost most of her maturity over the course of part 1, not in the transition between parts. Sakura's love confession came when she had matured considerably and had a far better grasp of Sasuke's flaws and shortcomings than she had at the beginning of the manga. Since Sakura's feelings certainly didn't weaken, and may in fact have strengthened, despite her increased maturity and more realistic view of Sasuke, I find it unfeasible to say that Sakura "matured" out of her feelings for Sasuke.

Ahhh, the dreaded SasuSaku love confession (the only reason I consider SasuSaku a viable possiblity)! Like I said, the verdict is still out on this pairing for me when it comes to romantic feelings still being present.... I, however, am interested where the idea that Sakura's romantic feelings for Sasuke certainly didn't weaken comes from? As far as I know, there hasn't been enough SasuSaku in Part 2 to say what is certain for Sakura in romantic terms.



Well, the events on the training field could be seen as having set up a foundation for a future romantic relationship. Additionally, judging from Hinata's regrettably brief post-time jump appearance, she apparently still has her romantic feelings for Naruto, and she's apparently "not ready" for something... Plus, judging from how Hinata fainted, it looks like she still has a way to go in her quest to change herself, so her theme relevance is still present. But we'll have to wait until the team 8 arc to see if Hinata's future relevance will include "Naruto's romantic interest".

What we know from Part 2 is that Hinata still has a crush on Naruto. That is all. The fact that she fainted from the crush cannot be taken as evidence that she is still having the same confidence issues because the fact that she actually became a Chuunin shows that SOME development came from their Chuunin Exam chat. She idolizes Naruto, so it can be argued that her fainting is no different then when a teenage girl faints at the sight of Justin Timberlake. The fact that said teen fainted over Justin should not suggest that she has self-esteem problems, but rather that the pressure of being around someone she practically worships was too much for her. I believe this is the same deal with Hinata.

And if we are to look at pairing hints losing their validity when it is done in a comical manner (as you have done with NaruSaku in your comment below), then a good 3/4 of the NaruHina moments we have seen cannot be taken seriously, as they were very comical (Constant fainting, Naruto saying that she is kinda weird, I also found the medical cream scene very funny)! I could go even further in saying that all romantic (not the scenes where she draws inspiration) feelings Hinata has shown for Naruto have been pure comedy.

The main difference between Naruto/Sakura and the others is the "romantic interests" issue. The only concrete romantic interests we have right now are Hinata -> Naruto, Naruto -> Sakura, and Sakura -> Sasuke. Naruto/Sakura could be seen as throwing out the romantic interests and development on Hinata's and Sakura's parts towards Naruto and Sasuke, respectively.

However, Naruto/Sakura is unique in the case that Naruto's interest could feasibly be seen as having been "thrown out" during the promise of a lifetime, and Sakura's potential developments towards Naruto can still be written off as friendship development at this point, since Naruto used to always be second to Sasuke in every case, not simply romance.

As for Naruto's post-time jump "advances" towards Sakura, I have a hard time taking them seriously for a couple reasons. First, Naruto doesn't seem to be taking them as seriously as he did in part 1, either. This is reinforced by my second reason, which is that Naruto has already accepted Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, and currently has no reason to believe Sakura's feelings have changed. Sure, Naruto obviously still has interest in Sakura, but in the current circumstances I can't see his "advances" as any more than comedy.

LOL. Its funny that you should get into the supposed lack of FERVENT love in terms of Naruto's interaction with Sakura. I actually agree with that, but it can be said that one of the reasons Naruto isn't fervently pursuing her in Part 2 is because he is still focused on fufilling the promise he made. In situations where Naruto was not actively on a mission with Sakura that was furthering the fufillment of the promise (beginning of part 1, ramen scene) he has shown that he is still very much attracted to her. You can argue that they were all comedic scenes, but then you would have to acknowledge that all romantic attractions in NaruHina has been nothing but one big comedic scene.

And I have also taken into consideration the idea that Naruto really has backed off of Sakura because he sees her feelings for Sasuke.... and actually have a fiendish feeling that Kishimoto is about to do some serious 'shaking up' of NaruSakuSasu if this is true.:nod Here's what I see as a possibity.... Sakura actually does fall in love with Naruto, tries to express that love to him in a completely serious way (not like the ramen scene), and Naruto actually winds up rejecting that love because he still feels she is in love with Sasuke... In a way, reversing the way things were in Part 1 in terms of NaruSaku.... until, eventually, they both fall for each other. Its just a theory, but I can see Kishimoto doing something as devilish as this.

And those are mine. Unfortunately, perspective will no doubt intervene and prevent us from reconciling our differences. :cry

Aww, don't cry!:( There is nothing wrong with disagreeing on certain things. Competition and debates are fun!

Then why did I have to get shots the last time one bit me? :cry

Tch, probably one of your guys pretending to be a NaruSaku'er in the midst of their rabid madness.:)

True... A fact Naruto will hopefully soon appreciate. Looks like Jiraiya may have been good for something after all! :kthumb

Then again, the reason why Kishimoto has yet to draw Hinata wrong is because he has only had to draw her a handful of times.... yeah, I SO went there.:amuse

[Veil of Dreams]

I believe that it has already more or less been shown, its all a matter of what fans are willing to admit they see and what they aren't. Still, I believe Kishimoto will make it incredibly plain soon enough... just a little more time. :)

Oh, he's shown stuff that could be taken that way, but not stuff that could only be taken that way. :wink

Ahhh, the dreaded SasuSaku love confession (the only reason I consider SasuSaku a viable possiblity)! Like I said, the verdict is still out on this pairing for me when it comes to romantic feelings still being present.... I, however, am interested where the idea that Sakura's romantic feelings for Sasuke certainly didn't weaken comes from? As far as I know, there hasn't been enough SasuSaku in Part 2 to say what is certain for Sakura in romantic terms.

I meant her feelings didn't weaken over the course of part 1 despite Sakura maturing and seeing past her glorified image of Sasuke. However, I don't think her feelings have weakened post-time jump, either. The events shown in part 1 have shown beyond doubt that the foundation of Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke is her romantic interest in him, so to say she's lost that would be a blow to her feelings, when supposedly Naruto's and Sakura's strong feelings for Sasuke are what they need to save him (As said by Tsunade). So Sasuke's going to be saved by Naruto's powerful bond with him and Sakura's... er... diminished bond with him? :huh

What we know from Part 2 is that Hinata still has a crush on Naruto. That is all. The fact that she fainted from the crush cannot be taken as evidence that she is still having the same confidence issues because the fact that she actually became a Chuunin shows that SOME development came from their Chuunin Exam chat. She idolizes Naruto, so it can be argued that her fainting is no different then when a teenage girl faints at the sight of Justin Timberlack. The fact that said teen fainted over Justin should not suggest that she has self-esteem problems, but rather that the pressure of being around someone she practically worships was too much for her. I believe this is the same deal with Hinata.

I don't doubt Hinata's changed... But her change apparently isn't complete, or she'd be able to interact with Naruto without fainting. She's come a long way from where she started, but she hasn't reached her destination yet.

And Justin/fangirl is a mirror of early Sasuke/Sakura, not Naruto/Hinata. :notrust

And if we are to look at pairing hints losing their validity when it is done in a comical manner (as you have done with NaruSaku in your comment below), then a good 3/4 of the NaruHina moments we have seen cannot be taken seriously, as they were very comical (Constant fainting, Naruto saying that she is kinda weird, I also found the medical cream scene very funny)! I could go even further in saying that all romantic (not the scenes where she draws inspiration) feelings Hinata has shown for Naruto have been pure comedy.

Well, I don't consider any of the Naruto/Hinata moments during the chuunin exams to be comedic, including the medical cream scene and Hinata's reaction to Naruto's "I like people like you" towards the end of the training field scene. I'm not sure how you found the mecial cream scene comedic. It was Hinata being nervous, offering the cream, and Naruto thanking her for being nice. No jokes, no gags.

Plus, it's known that Hinata's affection for Naruto stems from her admiration of him, so scenes focusing on her admiration are by extension also focusing on her affection for him...

LOL. Its funny that you should get into the supposed lack of FERVENT love in terms of Naruto's interaction with Sakura. I actually agree with that, but it can be said that one of the reasons Naruto isn't fervently pursuing her in Part 2 is because he is still focused on fufilling the promise he made. In situations where Naruto was not actively on a mission with Sakura that was furthering the fufillment of the promise (beginning of part 1, ramen scene) he has shown that he is still very much attracted to her. You can argue that they were all comedic scenes, but then you would have to acknowledge that all romantic attractions in NaruHina has been nothing but one big comedic scene.

I never doubted Naruto is still attracted to her. I just said Naruto doesn't seem to take his "advances" on Sakura seriously anymore, and he has a good reason not to.

And I have also taken into consideration the idea that Naruto really has backed off of Sakura because he sees her feelings for Sasuke.... and actually have a fiendish feeling that Kishimoto is about to do some serious 'shaking up' of NaruSakuSasu if this is true.:nod Here's what I see as a possibity.... Sakura actually does fall in love with Naruto, tries to express that love to him in a completely serious way (not like the ramen scene), and Naruto actually winds up rejecting that love because he still feels she is in love with Sasuke... In a way, reversing the way things were in Part 1 in terms of NaruSaku.... until, eventually, they both fall for each other. Its just a theory, but I can see Kishimoto doing something as devilish as this.

Hmm... Maybe. Of course, you need concrete indication of Sakura's feelings first, and then you need concrete indication of Sakura preferring Naruto over Sasuke.

Aww, don't cry!:( There is nothing wrong with disagreeing on certain things. Competition and debates are fun!

Don't worry, I love this stuff. I'm just joking around with you.

Tch, probably one of your guys pretending to be a NaruSaku'er in the midst of their rabid madness.:)

Funny, I don't recall any killer giraffes in the Naruto/Hinata fandom... :amuse

Then again, the reason why Kishimoto has yet to draw Hinata wrong is because he has only had to draw her a handful of times.... yeah, I SO went there.:amuse

Her day will come! :shakefist

[ssj3klash]

The sad truth is that Naruto is definitely a straight guy and we all know that most guys don't mind with which girl they end up with. As long as she can listen to him and communicate, oh there is also the other stuff ( well you already know what I mean, hint: sex appeal). So that being said its just a matter of who will be the first to win naruto's heart. They say that quickest way to man's heart is through his stomach, lets see if that might work too.

[Akatsuki_Dei]

my fav SasukeXItachi =]

[naruhina26]

Naruto x AYAME the Ramen Girl

Free Ramen everyday, what would Naruto wnat more

+ Ayame is probably one of the nicest girls to NAruto

[Kathy♥]

sakura/sasuke
naruto/sasuke

mhmh. my favourites...
if i were to list all the pairings i like... >_>;

[Shojiro Katazuki]

#1-KibaXHinata
#2-ShikamaruXTemari
#3-NarutoXSakura
#4-ChoujiXIno

#5-SasukeXDeath...lol

[SasuxSan]

NaruSaku and ShikaTema

[kyuubi425]

Hmmm...
Ayame-neesan makes ramen.
Hina-chan makes a killer Naru-onigiri (Good enough for Naruto to say she'd make a good wife, filler yea i know, but it can't be that far from the truth)
Sakura-chan makes some slammin Salmon on the field.

Ayame wins.

[Veil of Dreams]

Hmmm...
Ayame-neesan makes ramen.
Hina-chan makes a killer Naru-onigiri (Good enough for Naruto to say she'd make a good wife, filler yea i know, but it can't be that far from the truth)
Sakura-chan makes some slammin Salmon on the field.

Ayame wins.

Hmm... But from Naruto's training, we know that Ayame has apparently been replaced by the two stooges. If Hinata were to pick up a part time job at Ichiraku ramen, she could have Naruto wrapped around her finger in no time. :amuse

[kyuubi425]

Hmm... But from Naruto's training, we know that Ayame has apparently been replaced by the two stooges. If Hinata were to pick up a part time job at Ichiraku ramen, she could have Naruto wrapped around her finger in no time. :amuse

o yea i forgot about that. Where the hell is she then? Hinata probably can already whip up a mean bowl of ramen. If her rice balls can make her a good wife, imagine how he'd react to her ramen.

[Dark Aether]

Meh, Hinata is a little shy to work at Ichiraku's, but she could do it, Naruto is the only regular, so she could see him aaaaalllll the time X3

[Jessie]

SasuSaku 4eva!

then its NaruHina:nod

[Vixey]

SasuSaku over any other... I love other pairings as well but I won't mention them as this is a 'Favorite' thread in the singular ;D

[ArashiUzumaki]

I think that Naruto would either end up with Hinata or Sakura, denpending on which one tells him that they like him because both of like him, but Hinata likes him the most and her crush on if has intesifeid since she could see him. When naruto came back to the village and said hi to her she faints. If Hinata tells Nartuo how she feels there is a good chance they could end up as a couple because he is starting to like her but she realy needs some self confidence and tell him how she feels before Sakura does. Sakura and Naruto are growing closer during the manga and she cares for him alot more than shes leting on, and when Yammoto asked her if she cares for Naruto more than just a friend, she never got a chance to answer the question because Naruto woke up and after he used his rensagen they were geting closer until Sai came. So i think it's obvious that Sakura like Nartuo, and only time will tell which one will tell which one will tell them how they feel. I think that he will proably end up with Sakura but I would like to see Hinata and Naruto become a couple.

[Maruutsu]

Hopefully once Hinata confesses and Naruto realizes she's the one who has aknowledged him all along and loved him for who he was, they will end up together [eventually].

If Sakura and Naruto got together in the end, I would be really disappointed. I think they have no chemistry and their relationship is a very strong bond of mutual trust and friendship (especially in Shippuuden) that resembles one of siblings more than one of love. Although I do think they can fall for each other, I believe they would do better with other people (Sasuke, Hinata, Sai, etc.). But that's just me.

[Maruutsu]

I agree with Jessie ^^
1. SasuSaku
2. NaruHina
3. ShikaTema
4. NejiTen
5. DeiTobi (I can't believe I'm turning to the yaoi side...)

[ChowMein]

Hopefully once Hinata confesses and Naruto realizes she's the one who has aknowledged him all along and loved him for who he was, they will end up together [eventually].

If Sakura and Naruto got together in the end, I would be really disappointed. I think they have no chemistry and their relationship is a very strong bond of mutual trust and friendship (especially in Shippuuden) that resembles one of siblings more than one of love. Although I do think they can fall for each other, I believe they would do better with other people (Sasuke, Hinata, Sai, etc.). But that's just me.

no, it's NOT just you..

it's me and a whole other people...

Naruto has always longed for a family, and Sakura has been the perfect sister.

Hinata would definitely be the perfect wife, because she's the only one who really showed OBVIOUS affections for naruto...even though HE was oblivious. And who's to say? There is PLENTY of time for Naruhina...

but still, it all depends on Kishi-sama

[kyuubi425]

no, it's NOT just you..

it's me and a whole lot of other people...

Naruto has always longed for a family, and Sakura has been the perfect sister.

Hinata would definitely be the perfect wife, because she's the only one who really showed OBVIOUS affections for naruto...even though HE was oblivious. And who's to say? There is PLENTY of time for Naruhina...

but still, it all depends on Kishi-sama

QFT. Good job Charu.

[SkInHoUnD]

Naruto x AYAME the Ramen Girl

Free Ramen everyday, what would Naruto wnat more

+ Ayame is probably one of the nicest girls to NAruto



Umm....you realize your little bikini babes are like 15 right?
Thats pretty nasty.

[ChowMein]

QFT. Good job Charu.

*ahem* what's QFT?

[louipwns]

the last time we've seen hinata was in the beginning of Naruto Pt.2 we haven't seen her since, from what i can see from the chapters come and gone since the last time we've seen hinata is that NaruSaku is actually probable.

[ssj3klash]

^ Stop brainwashing me !!!
Just kidding.:amuse
Well NaruSaku and NaruHIna were always a possibility, the problem is which will come true. But from the evidence which have been show to us we can all different points of view, most of the time the factor in this is decided by which pairing we find favorable.

[Rori]

*ahem* what's QFT?

quoted for truth. :amuse

[Lelouch71]

Well if Naruto remains the "perfect" brother then Sasuke have to remain the "perfect" brother to Sakura too according to that logic since Team 7 is a "family". So I guess all 3 will have to end up with someone else then. Naruto with Ino, Ten-Ten, Hinata, or some new girl, Sasuke with a new girl maybe that Karin chick, and Sakura with Neji, Lee, Sai, or some new guy. Seriously Naruto could end up with either Hinata or Sakura or someone new for all we know.

[leigh-green]

naruto should realy end up with hinata. I mean hinata and naruto are a cute couple after all and hinata realy admires naruto too!

[kyuubi425]

Nar71
Not necessarily, because you have to put into account the kind of bond Sasuke and Sakura have. Whereas Naruto sees Sasuke as a brother, Sakura's feelings for Sasuke would get in the way of any type of familial relationship between them. Her crush has developed the more she got to know him. Naruto's for Sakura, didn't so much.He loves her, she is precious to him, but his crush has been shown to be a physical attraction. And it seems it may be mutual, but I dont think Sakura would follow through on it.

[Lelouch71]

Well my post was meant to be sarcastic. If Naruto/Sakura could have a sibling relationship then so could Sasuke/Sakura by that same logic. Since both pairings are one-sided though at this point with NaruSaku having more potential to become two-side at this particular time if Kishi decides to go down that route. I support both NaruSaku and NaruHina if one happens then I wouldn't be mad as long as it's develop decently well. However I despise SasuSaku (even though Sasuke is one my fav). I rather see Sakura with Naruto, Lee, or even Sai over Sasuke.

[*Ex-PrinCeSs*]

Well my post was meant to be sarcastic. If Naruto/Sakura could have a sibling relationship then so could Sasuke/Sakura by that same logic. Since both pairings are one-sided though at this point with NaruSaku having more potential to become two-side at this particular time if Kishi decides to go down that route. I support both NaruSaku and NaruHina if one happens then I wouldn't be mad as long as it's develop decently well. However I despise SasuSaku (even though Sasuke is one my fav). I rather see Sakura with Naruto, Lee, or even Sai over Sasuke.

I think we can all agree that Sasuke does not deserve sakura:). However I do think that this couple has the potential to be cute, but then again so does sakuraxLee:love. IMO Lee deserves sakura more than anyone:(. SakuraXnaruto & sakuraxsai...ehm...no:oh.

[kyuubi425]

Well i dont know about Sasuke not deserving Sakura. In the last few chapters he's been showing some hints that he may not be so far gone. And his actions towards Sakura during the goodbye scene and the reunion show signs that he may still care for her as more than a friend. The mere fact that he purposefully ignored her until she moved to attack may mean something. Same goes for the fact that he didnt follow through his attack after Yamato intercepted.

[Kanae]

And his actions towards Sakura during the goodbye scene and the reunion show signs that he may still care for her as more than a friend.


Uhm.. hope you don't mind me asking, but when did he start to care for her as more than a friend? =/ As I see it, he thinks of her as his family, as a comrade, and of course no one can deny that Sakura has a special place in Sasuke's heart, but I don't think that his feelings for her were romantic at all =S

[kyuubi425]

I said he may have feelings for her in that way. There's nothing to say he doesn't. His feelings for her can be read either way, it just depends on your preference. The thing is no matter if his feelings for her are romantic or familial, his mindset at that point was so messed up that he regressed back to the original Sasuke from the beginning of the series, with his revenge taking precedence over everything. But he still shows hints at her confession and attack that he may feel something more.

[Kanae]

he may still care for her as more than a friend.

Thats what you said =/ And those words meant that he already felt that way, and that he may still feel that way now =/ At least that's how I interpreted them :)

And also, there's nothing to say he does, either =/

[kyuubi425]

Im using my PSP so I have to cut my posts short. I just combined his possible still caring for her with his possible caring for her as more than a friend. Sorry it came out weird.

[Kanae]

Ah don't worry ^^ that explains it all =D

[ArtsaBang]

Lol this thread will never die! go me!

[kyuubi425]

I find it interesting that in this thread we end up discussing Sasuke's feelings for Sakura, while in the Sakura thread in the library were mainly discussing Naruto's chances with Sakura and Hinata.

[Micah]

I find it interesting that in this thread we end up discussing Sasuke's feelings for Sakura, while in the Sakura thread in the library were mainly discussing Naruto's chances with Sakura and Hinata.

Yea usually the discussions are in the other thread O.o

[ArtsaBang]

I find it interesting that in this thread we end up discussing Sasuke's feelings for Sakura, while in the Sakura thread in the library were mainly discussing Naruto's chances with Sakura and Hinata.

I know! That's why this is so great :P

[UchihaTaijiya]

SasuSaku is my OTP.

But I also support the following, whether because I think it has canon potential or just for the hell of it. Crack abound, yo. <3

NaruHina
NaruSaku
SaiSaku
ShikaTem
KibaHina
NejiHina
AsuKure
JiraTsu
ShikaSaku
GaaSaku
KakaSaku
KakaKure
LeeTen

<3

Yaoi/Yuri <3

GaaNaru
SaiNaru
NaruSasu
KakaSasu
ItaSasu
OroKabu
SaiSasu
InoSaku
TsuShiz
KakaYamo
DeiSaso

lol I am so easy to please. XD

[Bad Milk]

Uhg, I have had enough of the other thread, heh... Some of the Anti-naruSaku shippers are a real pain...Denial:P

This thread pwns the other one...smile-big

[Celess19]

Here you can vote for your favorite pairing that includes Naruto! Which char is the most suitable for Naruto? Which one would be the cutest with Naruto, and understand him the most.... here we go!

[kyuubi425]

Uhg, I have had enough of the other thread, heh... Some of the Anti-naruSaku shippers are a real pain...Denial:P

This thread pwns the other one...smile-big

I dont know about that, seeing as this thread is only about 1/3 the length of the other one. Things are gettin pretty deep. Id respond but my psp puts a limit on the length of my posts so I end up doubleposting. Mendokuse :notrust

[Sweeney Todd]

Naruto will take em all

[Kyon]

I voted for all of them.

hur hur

[Heero]

i voted for hinata:love

[Batman]

Yeah yEah yeAh yeaH, Hinata mothafuckers!

[Insein]

I hate these polls with the yaoi. Its not normal people. Naruto and Sasuke AREN'T GAY! IF they were, theyd have shown something by now.

[Lazybook]

Well Iruka of course.

[Monkey D. Luffy]

I went with Hinata

[Foxy]

practically, i can't imagine naruto and sasuke dating, but... i would really like it. :love

[Pugthug]

I went with Hinata because their was no foursome pairing: NarutoxHinataxSasukexSakura FTW!!!

[Mecha Wolf]

I hate these polls with the yaoi. Its not normal people. Naruto and Sasuke AREN'T GAY! IF they were, theyd have shown something by now.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4035/untitledpw3.gif

[Insein]

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4035/untitledpw3.gif


So refresh me then, has Naruto wanted to bang Sakura or Sasuke this whole time?

[Mecha Wolf]

So refresh me then, has Naruto wanted to bang Sakura or Sasuke this whole time?

That's for individual fans to decide. And I'm thinking some people would definitely answer "yes"...look at the poll.

[Insein]

sigh, i hate fans. lol

Naruto is NOT gay. I could see a case made for Sasuke, but Not Naruto.

[fennixfire]

If it was yaoi, definetley Sasuke and Naruto!

But otherwise, Naruto and Hinata!

[Almaseti]

Everyone. Kage = pimp. Everyone knows that! (except maybe Gaara before he took the job. Imagine his surprise when he found out..)

[fennixfire]

ShikaTema
NaruHina

SasuNaru
GaaLee

I know I'm a bit weird!

[kyuubi425]

Most suitable for Naruto? [Female] most understanding of Naruto? Cutest?
HINATA hands down. She was practically made to complement him.

[Celess19]

well..female character, I would say Hinata....but in general...Naruto has to be with Gaara ^^

[Cirus]

I say Hinata, and if they can't be together then they will both do ritual suicide.

[Renegade Raine]

Y'know, I REALLY hate to go the yaoi route, but Naruto/Gaara is the ONLY pairing that involves the character Naruto that I really, really like.

If I had to pick a female though, I guess I kinda sorta like Naruto/Hinata. There's always Ayame, the almighty ramen girl too. :p

[Hiruto Uzumaki]

*sighes* This thread is so predictable....

First the debate between Naruhina and Narusaku, then the yaoi with Sasuke fans come, and then the crack pairings with Kurenai and Anko begin.....

I vote Hinata.

[Renegade Raine]

Here's my current list. ^_^

Couples I support in a canon sense:

Sasuke/Sakura (My Naruto OTfriggin'P)
Shikamaru/Temari
Kimimaro/Tayuya (I STILL swear there was something going on there)
Naruto/Gaara >.>
Orochimaru/Tsunade (Not sure whether I like it as canon or if it's a crack thing...I'll put it here though~)
Sai/Sakura
Sasuke/Sakura/Sai (OT3~)

Crack~
Kankurou/Tenten (My Naruto Crack OTfriggin'P)
Neji/Ino
Iruka/Anko
Itachi/Sakura
Kabuto/Shizune
Gaara/Hinata

[Cuddlewuddles]

well..female character, I would say Hinata....but in general...Naruto has to be with Gaara ^^


XD I agree, that's exactly what I think too.

[lo-blo]

NaruHina FTW! :woo

[Sena Kobayakawa]

Probably Sakura.

[A2ZOMG]

I voted a combination of Hinata, Sasuke, Sakura, Iruka, and Gaara, and that is in fact the order of my top preferences.

I think Naruto would be most moved to fully realize that the only peer of his who's never treated him like a bitch is Hinata.

Sasuke need a slap in the face from Naruto. More opportunity for juicy plot detail on character development emphasizing Sasuke's further discovery on the importance of loyal friends like Naruto.

Sakura? Well, she was his first crush. As it is, they respect each other a lot, and through dating each other, they should mature emotionally. I mean, someone needs to set Naruto straight for living with a Super Pervert for two years!

There's not been enough screenplay between Iruka and Naruto after the beginning of the anime. Hello? First person to treat Naruto like family? Where's Iruka been if he's supposed to be Naruto's foster father?

Lastly, I believe Gaara and Naruto would have a great time delving into each other's pasts and that if Naruto became a Kage, they'd do well to maintain strong ties between their villages.

That should sum up my opinion.

[Kathy♥]

If anyone, Sasuke or Hinata.

[Louchan]

Sakura.
Obviously.

[Demonic Shaman]

Every girl in Konoha from Anko to Tenten.

[Vicious-chan]

don't the other characters have a say if he dates them? XD cause I don't see half of those letting him get even close.

[friedrice12]

GO busty hinata!!!! besides she would do anything for naruto in an instant!

[friedrice12]

Go hinata! she would do anything for naruto

[kyuubi425]

Sakura.
Obviously.

...
:laugh
Dude, he said "Obviously."

...
:laugh
Go busty hinata! besides she would do anything for naruto in an instant!

Now while I do see her as being very devoted, the way you worded this statement makes her seem like a slut. And on top of that, you double posted, which means your enthusiastic about it. Calm down. Hina isnt about to do anything Naruto tells her to do. She does have some backbone believe it or not.

[PradaBrada]

1000 KN3 KB and gangbang all the Konoha women

[Lemonade]

Who should Naruto date? Well either Sasuke, Gaara, Kakashi or Neji

Why isn't there Itachi?

[Saya]

Naruto needs Sakura. Dominatrix > Fishnets boobs :mad

[PradaBrada]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8886/472a480a00484fdcda0cd0diu4.gif

[Moses]

NaruHina FTW

[chrisp]

Hinata-sama. Sakura belongs with Sasuke.

[Judgemento]

This poll is weak
Why is it weak?
Because it lacks Anko

Lol nvm um... Sakura then xD

[Wolfy]

Either Gaara or Sasuke
:wtf

[Kakuzu]

Wow, this is quite an original idea!

I demand to know why Gamabunta isn't on that list!

[Breakthru]

I think Sakura

[Breakthru]

ObitoXRin and ShikaXTema

[bancy]

Any girl that's not Sakura.
Because she belongs to Sasuke. <3

So I guess Hinata.


>_>

[Cyckness]

Sorry took so long to respond, but y'know... life.

Oh, he's shown stuff that could be taken that way, but not stuff that could only be taken that way. :wink

Yeah yeah... :P

I meant her feelings didn't weaken over the course of part 1 despite Sakura maturing and seeing past her glorified image of Sasuke. However, I don't think her feelings have weakened post-time jump, either. The events shown in part 1 have shown beyond doubt that the foundation of Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke is her romantic interest in him, so to say she's lost that would be a blow to her feelings, when supposedly Naruto's and Sakura's strong feelings for Sasuke are what they need to save him (As said by Tsunade). So Sasuke's going to be saved by Naruto's powerful bond with him and Sakura's... er... diminished bond with him? :huh

Maybe so... but the 'don't think' is the key statement in your argument. It is still not clear, as of Part 2, if Sakura is more interested in finding and brining back a boyfriend in a one-sided relationship, or if she has allowed time to tamper with her romantic feelings (Not her love for a teammate) and REALLY just wants her beloved teammate back. And how does Sakura’s romance to Sasuke necessarily ‘strengthen’ their overall bond? Why would the idea that Sakura losing romantic feelings be something that would diminish her ‘bond’, or resolve to find Sasuke? It is pretty safe to say that if it was Naruto (who, back then, she hasn’t shown open romantic affection toward) to have left in Part 1 instead of Sasuke that she would be just as passionate about finding him. The promise is, more or less, built on the bond they shared as a team, not the pursuit of a romance that never even got started. Because of this, I believe the ‘stronger feelings’ Tsunade spoke of were the platonic love that team 7 shares for each other (esp. considering the fact that she was referring to Naruto as well), not a hint that Part 2 Sakura is still romantically inclined to the Uchiha.... I find it quite amusing that, in NH and SS fans reasoning, when Tsuande indirectly mentions that Sakura’s strong feelings was what would save Sasuke that it equates to love, yet when Yamato directly mentions that Sakura has strong feelings for Naruto, he just doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

I don't doubt Hinata's changed... But her change apparently isn't complete, or she'd be able to interact with Naruto without fainting. She's come a long way from where she started, but she hasn't reached her destination yet.

And Justin/fangirl is a mirror of early Sasuke/Sakura, not Naruto/Hinata. :notrust

No. This is speculation... When Hinata was mumbling about 'not being ready', this could easily mean she was not ready to see the boy she idolized out of nervousness because she has a serious crush on him... The fact that she fainted after she said all that actually shows that it was in the realms of comedy, and most likely doesn't involve the very serious self-worth issues she was wrestling with in Part 1. So, what we know as of now is that Hinata still faints around Naruto in an ongoing gag of a one-sided relationship that NH fans somehow imagine Kishimoto is obligated to bring closure to, when he really isn’t. Hinata is in no way connected to Naruto’s primary struggles anymore, which is why she is a supporting character and doesn’t play a main role. Kishimoto is no more obligated to develop a relationship between the two of them then he is obligated to show us how Neji is dealing with his issues of ‘fate’ these days.

And actually, NaruHina is JUST like a Justin/fangirl ship! Early SasuSaku was a Justin/fangirl ship as well, but one of a different kind, as NaruHina was an idol worship of a much more ‘tame’ and quiet sort. Let us examine a typical relationship Justin might share with his favorite fangirl:

- Fangirl knows everything about Justin (she makes it her business to know)... while Justin, who is too busy with his own life, barely notices the girl exists.

- Fangirl imagines that she is just like Justin at heart and that they have so much in common. She imagines she can relate to him... She feels they have a special connection.

-Fangirl gets flustered over Justin.

- Fangirl stalks Justin...

- Fangirl faints whenever Justin is too close to her, overwhelmed that he has graced her with his presence.

- Justin eventually meets his favorite fan at some big concert... He shares some words with the fan. Justin thinks its nice and thinks that the fan is a nice person... and soon goes off to other concerts, not seeing the fan again for a very long time... He remembers that the particular fan DOES in fact exists, but can’t be hung up on her because he has bigger and better things to do.

Sound familiar? :)

Well, I don't consider any of the Naruto/Hinata moments during the chuunin exams to be comedic, including the medical cream scene and Hinata's reaction to Naruto's "I like people like you" towards the end of the training field scene. I'm not sure how you found the mecial cream scene comedic. It was Hinata being nervous, offering the cream, and Naruto thanking her for being nice. No jokes, no gags.

Eh? Are we talking about the same medic cream scene, or am I thinking of a filler scene that was only in anime? I remember, for some reason or another, Hinata was presenting Naruto some medical cream with her head bowed down in submission. Naruto, not noticing her, walks by Hinata and out of the scene. Hinata eventually lifted up her head when she realized he wasn’t there. The scene I am talking about was definitely comedic. :huh

As for the other moments... well, I gfuess this is ultimately subjective, as there are moments that you probably consider NaruHina scenes that I do not.

Plus, it's known that Hinata's affection for Naruto stems from her admiration of him, so scenes focusing on her admiration are by extension also focusing on her affection for him...

....Granted.

I never doubted Naruto is still attracted to her. I just said Naruto doesn't seem to take his "advances" on Sakura seriously anymore, and he has a good reason not to.

Yes... he does have a good reason not to... He is focused on getting his best friend back. As I said before, whenever missions regarding the promise are not in effect... romantic banter, gestures and advancements ensue; arguably, from BOTH parties of NaruSaku. The idea that Naruto is definitely backing off of Sakura for Sasuke is speculation. Reasonable theory... but nothing more then that.

Hmm... Maybe. Of course, you need concrete indication of Sakura's feelings first, and then you need concrete indication of Sakura preferring Naruto over Sasuke.

Wait for it...

Don't worry, I love this stuff. I'm just joking around with you.

Coolness.


Funny, I don't recall any killer giraffes in the Naruto/Hinata fandom... :amuse

Double check. :amuse

Her day will come! :shakefist

lol...I guess this is where the ‘Patient Love’ aspect comes in, no? :P

[Ida]

Female: Hinata
Male: Sasuke

[Rise Against713]

i think Sakura

[naruhina26]

Naruto x Ayame the Ramen Girl for PWNGE

[naruhina26]

Where`s the choice for Ayame the Ramen Girl

[Vicious-chan]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8886/472a480a00484fdcda0cd0diu4.gif

LOL!!!! That's pure win.

Anyways, I still don't think most of those choices work XD Sasuke, Gaara, neji, etc would all beat him up for trying to get close :P they do have a say in if Naruto dates them too XD (really, Sakura and Hinata might be the only ones that might let him and Sakura's still iffy on that, at least right now and Hinata would just faint).

[Kazuma-Kiriyu]

I said sakura

[CrimsonWolf]

sakura i think would win

[Uzumaki]

Hinata :yell

[Death Sonjo]

Sakura/Hinata.

<3

[Na-]

Hinata.
It's the only reasonable choice.
Yaoi is just... It's just too off, none of those pairings is even close to beeing realistic.

[ssj3klash]

Naruto x Ayame the Ramen Girl for PWNGE

EWWHHhh.
How old is she?
She is cute though. But I don't think Naruto would prefer older women. He can't even handle those at his age, plus he doesn't have a clue what a lady feels (reference first chapter or episode of part 2).

[Seto Kaiba]

EWWHHhh.
How old is she?
She is cute though. But I don't think Naruto would prefer older women. He can't even handle those at his age, plus he doesn't have a clue what a lady feels (reference first chapter or episode of part 2).

If I remember correctly, she was 17 pre-timeskip, and about 19-20 post-skip.

[Veil of Dreams]

Maybe so... but the 'don't think' is the key statement in your argument. It is still not clear, as of Part 2, if Sakura is more interested in finding and brining back a boyfriend in a one-sided relationship, or if she has allowed time to tamper with her romantic feelings (Not her love for a teammate) and REALLY just wants her beloved teammate back. And how does Sakura’s romance to Sasuke necessarily ‘strengthen’ their overall bond? Why would the idea that Sakura losing romantic feelings be something that would diminish her ‘bond’, or resolve to find Sasuke? It is pretty safe to say that if it was Naruto (who, back then, she hasn’t shown open romantic affection toward) to have left in Part 1 instead of Sasuke that she would be just as passionate about finding him. The promise is, more or less, built on the bond they shared as a team, not the pursuit of a romance that never even got started. Because of this, I believe the ‘stronger feelings’ Tsunade spoke of were the platonic love that team 7 shares for each other (esp. considering the fact that she was referring to Naruto as well), not a hint that Part 2 Sakura is still romantically inclined to the Uchiha.... I find it quite amusing that, in NH and SS fans reasoning, when Tsuande indirectly mentions that Sakura’s strong feelings was what would save Sasuke that it equates to love, yet when Yamato directly mentions that Sakura has strong feelings for Naruto, he just doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

The difference is that the Naruto and Sakura's opinions towards Sasuke were clearly defined: When Sasuke was leaving, Naruto offered brotherly love, and Sakura offered romantic love. When Yamato was speaking, he was discussing Sakura's feelings, which had only been known as those of a friend thus far. It could be more, but it's not certain.

So, effectively, the difference is that I feel Tsunade is referring to the previously existing bonds (Brotherly and romantic) whereas if Yamato was indeed referring to romantic love, he's "charting new territory", so to speak.

Phoenixblood has a very good theory that goes into more detail on Sasuke's betrayal and the Yamato scene. Give it a read if you haven't already.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=186711

No. This is speculation... When Hinata was mumbling about 'not being ready', this could easily mean she was not ready to see the boy she idolized out of nervousness because she has a serious crush on him... The fact that she fainted after she said all that actually shows that it was in the realms of comedy, and most likely doesn't involve the very serious self-worth issues she was wrestling with in Part 1. So, what we know as of now is that Hinata still faints around Naruto in an ongoing gag of a one-sided relationship that NH fans somehow imagine Kishimoto is obligated to bring closure to, when he really isn’t. Hinata is in no way connected to Naruto’s primary struggles anymore, which is why she is a supporting character and doesn’t play a main role. Kishimoto is no more obligated to develop a relationship between the two of them then he is obligated to show us how Neji is dealing with his issues of ‘fate’ these days.

I wouldn't really call Hinata fainting a "running gag" in the manga, when technically 282 is the first time Hinata has actually fainted in front of Naruto (She only almost fainted last time). Methinks Kishimoto has fillers on the brain. :P But in any case, the nervousness and weak will that made Hinata unable to function in front of Naruto is one of the very things she's trying to change about herself, so the fact that it happened is evidence that Hinata's change is incomplete.

Additionally, Naruto is currently going through something where Hinata is one of the best options to relate to him on the matter. Naruto's failure cost him someone he considers a brother. How does Hinata tie into this? Simple: Hinata's history has been shaped by her failures, which culminated in essentially costing her her own family (By her father abandoning her).

Besides, even if Kishimoto doesn't intend to have them relate on that, Hinata is connected to Naruto's problems by grace of being a Konoha ninja. Not being directly connected to Naruto's problems didn't stop Chouji, Neji, Kiba, Shikamaru, Temari, Kankurou, Gaara, and Lee from helping with Sasuke, nor did it stop team Gai and team 10 from getting involved with Akatsuki.

Finally, Neji still has yet to defy his "fate" in the Hyuga family; he's only shown that he now has the will to do so. Ending things there would leave Neji's "resolution" at "I understand now, Naruto. I can defy my fate! *Doesn't defy his fate*" :oh Additionally, I feel Hinata still needs more to resolve her theme of change (She still hasn't been acknowledged by Hiashi, you know), and Lee needs to resolve his theme of surpassing a genius (As opposed to getting his ass kicked by geniuses and getting saved by geniuses :cry ).

And actually, NaruHina is JUST like a Justin/fangirl ship! Early SasuSaku was a Justin/fangirl ship as well, but one of a different kind, as NaruHina was an idol worship of a much more ‘tame’ and quiet sort. Let us examine a typical relationship Justin might share with his favorite fangirl:

- Fangirl knows everything about Justin (she makes it her business to know)... while Justin, who is too busy with his own life, barely notices the girl exists.

Fangirl thinks she knows about Justin whereas she truthfully doesn't know anything.

Hinata does personally know Naruto, has at least a decent grasp of his past, and a solid grasp of his personality and character. If she didn't, her words would have rung hollow on the training field and failed to encourage Naruto.

- Fangirl imagines that she is just like Justin at heart and that they have so much in common. She imagines she can relate to him... She feels they have a special connection.

Fangirl imagines she is like Justin? Uh, maybe some do.

Hinata is like Naruto. Though the events that led to their situations are different, they did end up in similar circumstances: Weakling failures seeking acknowledgment from the people who hold them in low esteem.

-Fangirl gets flustered over Justin.

True.

- Fangirl stalks Justin...

It's anime filler that makes Hinata look like a stalker. But you can count that if you want, since that means I can count the copious amount of Naruto/Hinata filler.

- Fangirl faints whenever Justin is too close to her, overwhelmed that he has graced her with his presence.

Fangirl faints because Justin is just "soooo hot and dreamy! :love "

Hinata faints because she has difficulty handling her feelings for Naruto. Sure, you might say fangirl does to too, but Hinata's reasons I can respect a lot more: Naruto, in a sense, is why Hinata is truly living instead of merely surviving. By being in a situation Hinata could understand, yet never stopping his efforts to change himself, Hinata was able to gain the will and hope to push herself and try to change her life. Like she thought during Hinata v. Neji, "When I look at Naruto, I feel like I am worth something, that even I can do it..."

It's thanks to Naruto that Hinata is now a chuunin instead of still a useless genin that freezes up under pressure... Or a dead genin, because eventually she'd freeze in a life threatening situation and her team mates wouldn't be able to save her in time.

- Justin eventually meets his favorite fan at some big concert... He shares some words with the fan. Justin thinks its nice and thinks that the fan is a nice person... and soon goes off to other concerts, not seeing the fan again for a very long time... He remembers that the particular fan DOES in fact exists, but can’t be hung up on her because he has bigger and better things to do.

Justin has idle chatter with fangirl.

Naruto lets down his mask and confesses his insecurities to Hinata, who is able to encourage him because she has a solid understanding of Naruto, and is able to restore Naruto's faith in himself before an extremely important battle to effectively prove that Naruto hasn't been wasting his life, by proving that a loser like him can change through hard work and determination, thus achieving his life goals and dreams.

Sound familiar? :)

Pff. You'll have do better than that to vex this Naruto/Hinata debater. :box

Eh? Are we talking about the same medic cream scene, or am I thinking of a filler scene that was only in anime? I remember, for some reason or another, Hinata was presenting Naruto some medical cream with her head bowed down in submission. Naruto, not noticing her, walks by Hinata and out of the scene. Hinata eventually lifted up her head when she realized he wasn’t there. The scene I am talking about was definitely comedic. :huh

That was a filler scene. In the manga, Hinata only offered Naruto cream after the fight with Kiba.

Yes... he does have a good reason not to... He is focused on getting his best friend back. As I said before, whenever missions regarding the promise are not in effect... romantic banter, gestures and advancements ensue; arguably, from BOTH parties of NaruSaku. The idea that Naruto is definitely backing off of Sakura for Sasuke is speculation. Reasonable theory... but nothing more then that.

We'll just have to wait for the next Sasuke reunion.

Double check. :amuse

Said giraffe has made his negative opinion of Naruto/Hinata abundantly clear. :notrust

lol...I guess this is where the ‘Patient Love’ aspect comes in, no? :P

So true, so true...

[ssj3klash]

If I remember correctly, she was 17 pre-timeskip, and about 19-20 post-skip.

My point exactly. I have a question. Who is older Sakura or Naruto?

Oh isn't this debate over yet? Come on why are we even wasting our time arguing over such irrelevant stuff. There are more important issues in the world like Global Warming, Flooding, Hunger, Poverty, Corruption, Morals and Values being degraded, and don't forget Homosexuality( just kidding about this one :amuse). Oh well whats the point anyways. Its not like the world is gonna turn all good if we do that.

[Seto Kaiba]

My point exactly. I have a question. Who is older Sakura or Naruto?

Sakura is older than both Sasuke and Naruto.

[Veil of Dreams]

Hmm... Nothing against Naruto/Ayame, but once any girl (or any man, for that matter) has seen Kakashi's sexy mug, there is no hope for that person pairing with anyone but Kakashi. :P

[Chieri Blossom]

Sasuke-sama. Sakura belongs with Ino.
Fixed for great justice :amuse.

I voted Sasuke, of course.

[AmiChi]

He should date Sasuke and Sakura and then have a threesome with them.
The actual ONLY logical choice. SasuNaruSaku FTW :knk !

[ChowMein]

go VEIL OF DREAMS :WOOT !!!!

[Meg]

The difference is that the Naruto and Sakura's opinions towards Sasuke were clearly defined: When Sasuke was leaving, Naruto offered brotherly love, and Sakura offered romantic love.
That's merely your interpretation and not a fact. Just because you see it as "clearly defined" doesn't make it a fact, I am sorry. I have a completely different opinion and POV towards that.

[Veil of Dreams]

That's merely your interpretation and not a fact. Just because you see it as "clearly defined" doesn't make it a fact, I am sorry. I have a completely different opinion and POV towards that.

Naruto: "When I'm with you, I wonder if it's like being with a brother..."

Sakura: "I love you with all of my heart!"

There's really not much room for interpretation.

[Violent-nin]

I voted for Sakura.

[LazerGod121]

both hinata AND sakura ^^ i like both pairings

[デイダラ&サソリ]

I voted Sasuke, Naruto is already obsessed with him, time to get his feelings straight.

[ssj3klash]

Sakura is older than both Sasuke and Naruto.

I see that is into fresh meat.:laugh
But if naruto failed in the academy then how come he isn't older than them.

Naruto: "When I'm with you, I wonder if it's like being with a brother..."

Sakura: "I love you with all of my heart!"

There's really not much room for interpretation.

Tell me which chapter this is so I can look it up.

[kantami]

I hope Hinata! They suit!

[Veil of Dreams]

I see that is into fresh meat.:laugh
But if naruto failed in the academy then how come he isn't older than them.

We don't have the details, but I believe that there isn't a set "age" for entering the academy. My own theory is that Naruto entered the academy at a younger age than the rest of the rookie nine, but his failures kept him there longer (Indicated in the Naruto v. Kiba fight flashback, where Kiba had never seen Naruto before despite Naruto having been there for 3 years). He may have been stuck with Iruka because Iruka was the only teacher that was willing to put up with him, or something.

Tell me which chapter this is so I can look it up.

I don't have access to my manga collection right now, but I think the Naruto scene is around chapter.... 226 or so. He says it right after he says he wonders if being with Iruka is like being with a father. Plus, in part 2, Sakura says that Naruto thinks of Sasuke as a brother (She said it to Sai, I think).

The Sakura scene is chapter 181, I think.

[Maiokhan]

I dont see how Sakura could just turn around and take NAruto. That would make her look like a whore:oh

Why do u say that? It's not like she was goin out wiv sauske or anything. And it has been almost 3 years since he rejected her and left to get revenge. Alot can happen in that time. would Hinata be a whore if she suddenly started liking Kiba, for example? of course not, it's perfectly normal for crushes to end as suddenly as they start.

[Hiruko]

Hinata. I wont support putting gays in naruto (no offence gays). I just dont think it would work, and the show would lose loads of fans.

[Insein]

God damn fags. Naruto isn't gay even if Sasuke is.

[Chilly]

Sasuke is the only logical choice to me :love.

[Lycanthropy]

Hinata. :love

[Cloud_Strife_]

Sasuke and Gaara FTW !

[Shamandalie]

These threads will never die smile-big

Well, I've voted for Sasuke.

[Cyckness]

The difference is that the Naruto and Sakura's opinions towards Sasuke were clearly defined: When Sasuke was leaving, Naruto offered brotherly love, and Sakura offered romantic love. When Yamato was speaking, he was discussing Sakura's feelings, which had only been known as those of a friend thus far. It could be more, but it's not certain.

So, effectively, the difference is that I feel Tsunade is referring to the previously existing bonds (Brotherly and romantic) whereas if Yamato was indeed referring to romantic love, he's "charting new territory", so to speak.

Phoenixblood has a very good theory that goes into more detail on Sasuke's betrayal and the Yamato scene. Give it a read if you haven't already.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=186711

But again, your argument doesn't really change the fact that WE DON'T KNOW HOW SAKURA FEELS NOW!:cry And how does Tsunade know that Sakura's bond to Sasuke was a romantic one?

I'll give the link a check in a moment.

I wouldn't really call Hinata fainting a "running gag" in the manga, when technically 282 is the first time Hinata has actually fainted in front of Naruto (She only almost fainted last time). Methinks Kishimoto has fillers on the brain. But in any case, the nervousness and weak will that made Hinata unable to function in front of Naruto is one of the very things she's trying to change about herself, so the fact that it happened is evidence that Hinata's change is incomplete.

^_^;; , you'll have to excuse me when it comes to differentiating between the canon and filler moments. It has been so long since I've read the chuunin exams arc.

But incomplete in what way? Like I said, because Hinata was placed in a comedic scene when that weakness was displayed, I doubt seriously Kishimoto was trying to convey that the training field scene was ineffective in developing Hinata in regards to self-worth. It is more probable that she is incomplete along the lines of 'I still like Naruto, and don't know how to make it clear to him'.

Additionally, Naruto is currently going through something where Hinata is one of the best options to relate to him on the matter. Naruto's failure cost him someone he considers a brother. How does Hinata tie into this? Simple: Hinata's history has been shaped by her failures, which culminated in essentially costing her her own family (By her father abandoning her).

A bit of a stretch, as Sakura and Naruto have been working excellently in healing their respective wounds for each other regarding Sasuke's defection. That is a primary theme of NaruSaku, in fact... the idea that they are always there for each other. As far as they are concerned, they both failed to bring back Sasuke twice, and have picked each other up whenever their tendency to be emo about this would drag them down (Mizura mentions this in her essay as well). In terms of relating to losing someone close, Sakura has Naruto pretty well covered. Hinata is... obsolete, in that respect. :)

Besides, even if Kishimoto doesn't intend to have them relate on that, Hinata is connected to Naruto's problems by grace of being a Konoha ninja. Not being directly connected to Naruto's problems didn't stop Chouji, Neji, Kiba, Shikamaru, Temari, Kankurou, Gaara, and Lee from helping with Sasuke, nor did it stop team Gai and team 10 from getting involved with Akatsuki.

Of course.... No one is denying that Hinata will not have her chance to shine in the manga. Hell, there might even be a NaruHina hint in the next arc for pure fanservice.... the thing that NS fans are having a hard time swallowing is the idea that, within said arc, Kishimoto is suddenly going to attempt a romance from a one-sided ship that has been put on pause for over 100 chapters.

Finally, Neji still has yet to defy his "fate" in the Hyuga family; he's only shown that he now has the will to do so. Ending things there would leave Neji's "resolution" at "I understand now, Naruto. I can defy my fate! *Doesn't defy his fate*" Additionally, I feel Hinata still needs more to resolve her theme of change (She still hasn't been acknowledged by Hiashi, you know), and Lee needs to resolve his theme of surpassing a genius (As opposed to getting his ass kicked by geniuses and getting saved by geniuses :cry ).

My argument is that it is not necessary for Kishimoto to resolve these themes, as they are side characters. Ongoing canon would agree with what I am saying for the sheer fact that they haven't been resolved YET! Everyone suspected that Lee and Neji would have their own character developmental moments in the Rescue Gaara arc, and they did not. It may have pissed the fans off but it makes sense that they haven't, as it would detour the much more plot-driven flow of Part 2. No one knows the future, but given the length of chapters she has received no development and the lack of arcs she was featured in, I really don't see why Hinata's fate won't be the same as Neji when it comes to getting the 'no resolution' treament that the others have recieved.



Fangirl thinks she knows about Justin whereas she truthfully doesn't know anything.

Hinata does personally know Naruto, has at least a decent grasp of his past, and a solid grasp of his personality and character. If she didn't, her words would have rung hollow on the training field and failed to encourage Naruto.

Note my mention that 'she makes it her business to know'. She has a decent grasp of his past, personality and character because she found out about it. She didn't find out about it by walking up to him and asking.... she found out by stalking......>_>.....<_<........


Fangirl imagines she is like Justin? Uh, maybe some do.

Hinata is like Naruto. Though the events that led to their situations are different, they did end up in similar circumstances: Weakling failures seeking acknowledgment from the people who hold them in low esteem.

granted...


True.

Damn straight!

It's anime filler that makes Hinata look like a stalker. But you can count that if you want, since that means I can count the copious amount of Naruto/Hinata filler.

Filler makes her look MORE like a stalker, but she has canonically stalked Naruto before!

Fangirl faints because Justin is just "soooo hot and dreamy! :love "

Hinata faints because she has difficulty handling her feelings for Naruto. Sure, you might say fangirl does to too, but Hinata's reasons I can respect a lot more: Naruto, in a sense, is why Hinata is truly living instead of merely surviving. By being in a situation Hinata could understand, yet never stopping his efforts to change himself, Hinata was able to gain the will and hope to push herself and try to change her life. Like she thought during Hinata v. Neji, "When I look at Naruto, I feel like I am worth something, that even I can do it..."

It's thanks to Naruto that Hinata is now a chuunin instead of still a useless genin that freezes up under pressure... Or a dead genin, because eventually she'd freeze in a life threatening situation and her team mates wouldn't be able to save her in time.

The reason behind the fainting is not important. The fact that she faints is enough. Unless she has a medical excuse, fainting before the man you have a crush on is fangirlism at its purest.


Justin has idle chatter with fangirl.

Naruto lets down his mask and confesses his insecurities to Hinata, who is able to encourage him because she has a solid understanding of Naruto, and is able to restore Naruto's faith in himself before an extremely important battle to effectively prove that Naruto hasn't been wasting his life, by proving that a loser like him can change through hard work and determination, thus achieving his life goals and dreams.

Tch.... I hear that celebs can get very emotional and open with their fans. smile-big



Pff. You'll have do better than that to vex this Naruto/Hinata debater. :box

I'm just getting warmed up!:kukuku



That was a filler scene. In the manga, Hinata only offered Naruto cream after the fight with Kiba.

Again, forgive me of my confusion.



We'll just have to wait for the next Sasuke reunion.

Yes... we will....

Said giraffe has made his negative opinion of Naruto/Hinata abundantly clear. :notrust

Wish I knew who you were talking about...:oh

[ssj3klash]

We don't have the details, but I believe that there isn't a set "age" for entering the academy. My own theory is that Naruto entered the academy at a younger age than the rest of the rookie nine, but his failures kept him there longer (Indicated in the Naruto v. Kiba fight flashback, where Kiba had never seen Naruto before despite Naruto having been there for 3 years). He may have been stuck with Iruka because Iruka was the only teacher that was willing to put up with him, or something.



I don't have access to my manga collection right now, but I think the Naruto scene is around chapter.... 226 or so. He says it right after he says he wonders if being with Iruka is like being with a father. Plus, in part 2, Sakura says that Naruto thinks of Sasuke as a brother (She said it to Sai, I think).

The Sakura scene is chapter 181, I think.

Ok I see now. That was during the fight with sasuke. And when sasuke left.

Oh also why do people keep implying that sakura would be a whore if she switched to sasuke. Come do you actually know the definition of a whore? Plus its not likes she goes with numerous guys and she didn't even have sex with sasuke. Why do people always have to stereotype others?
This actually happens in real live when a girl loses interest in a guy she liked and choses the one that gives her attention.
OK I am going over board with speculation here. But I think I made my point. And also a crush can easily be changed or broken that's why its called a crush.

[Cyckness]

Naruto: "When I'm with you, I wonder if it's like being with a brother..."

Sakura: "I love you with all of my heart!"

There's really not much room for interpretation.

If I wanted to be completely, ball-busting technical.... I COULD just say that the 'I love you with all my heart!" line could in no way be confirmed as love in a romantic sense.... smile-big

[GraveDigger21]

Naruto: Hinata.

[Terror Incarnate50]

Alright the way I see it is....That sakura is tottaly obsessed about bringing sasuke back...i mean he wanted to leave the village! LEAVE HIM THE F**K ALONE.....But no sakura will still always love sasuke.......and what pisses me off more is that kimishimo made naruto so stupid......that he never stops trying to get sakura to love him....Come on Naruto should have gave up on her Like the begining of the god damn series..Naruto is the only one who can make Hinata's self-confidence go up...I mean Hinata getting her confidence from anyone else? LIKE WHO?! And dont pull that 'Kiba can bring Hinata's confidence up' thing out of your ass.....Kiba is idiot....He just thinks that he can make Hinata his property.....Back to Sakura she is just a blind litttle girl surownding herself with lies to resist facing reality......She constianly thinks Sasuke can be saved....Which really to tell you the truth....He cant....She has never once apprecated Naruto until sasuke told her that Naruto was the one to save from Garra......And She Says "Dont be so modest Sasuke. Naruto got stronger but theres no chance-"
Thats one of many parts where sakura bilittled Naruto and she still didnt belive it! WHAT A DUMB SHIT! JESUS CRIST I'MSURPRISED SAKURA DIDNT YELL AT HIM AND HATE HIM FOR NOT BRINGING SASUKE BACK TO THE VILLAGE....I MEAN I CAN TOTTALY C THAT SHIT HAPPENING! Point is:

1.Sakura's a dumb little schoolgirl not worth being a shinobi. and too obessed with sasuke to c anything else.
2.Hinata and Naruto is obiously the wisest choice. They belong together.

And Last But Not Least!

3.Sasukes a dumb little gay emo basterd that should die and make the whole world happier.

[Silent_D]

well i gotta say NaruHina all the way, no one else.

[Auraya]

Naruto Sasuke
never going to happen but funny if it does

[Veil of Dreams]

But again, your argument doesn't really change the fact that WE DON'T KNOW HOW SAKURA FEELS NOW!:cry And how does Tsunade know that Sakura's bond to Sasuke was a romantic one?

She doesn't have to. I'm saying that the bonds were established in part 1 to be "brotherly" for Naruto and "romantic" for Sakura, so when Tsunade says their strong feelings will be what saves Sasuke, she's referring to these established bonds even if she doesn't know the exact nature of them personally.

But incomplete in what way? Like I said, because Hinata was placed in a comedic scene when that weakness was displayed, I doubt seriously Kishimoto was trying to convey that the training field scene was ineffective in developing Hinata in regards to self-worth. It is more probable that she is incomplete along the lines of 'I still like Naruto, and don't know how to make it clear to him'.

I'm not saying Hinata hasn't developed any. Like I said, she's come a long way, but I take Hinata's reaction as indication that she's not done yet.

A bit of a stretch, as Sakura and Naruto have been working excellently in healing their respective wounds for each other regarding Sauke's defection. That is a primary theme of NaruSaku, in fact... the idea that they are always there for each other in Part 2. As far as they are concerned, they both failed to bring back Sasuke twice, and have picked each other up whenever their tendency to be emo about this would drag them down (Mizura mentions this in her essay as well). In terms of relating to losing someone close, Sakura has Naruto pretty well covered. Hinata is... obselete, in that respect. :)

Excellently healing each other? What I see is the two of them putting on strong faces and pushing the other while hiding their own wounds.

Besides, even if Sakura can also relate, it doesn't give her a monopoly on the matter. Iruka's not the only person Naruto ever related to on loneliness. Hinata's history gives her credible grounds to understand Naruto's situation here.

Of course.... No one is denying that Hinata will not have her chance to shine in the manga. Hell, there might even be a NaruHina hint in the next arc for pure fanservice.... the thing that NS fans are having a hard time swallowing is the idea that, within said arc, Kishimoto is suddenly going to attempt a romance from a one-sided ship that has been put on pause for over 100 chapters.

It's all a matter of perspective. Remember that Naruto/Sakura doesn't just mean no Naruto/Hinata, but no Sasuke/Sakura, either. Besides, if Kishimoto is not very careful, Naruto/Sakura could easily prove damaging to the tone of the manga (Like Sakura choosing Naruto because he's "better" than Sasuke, which unfortunately seems to be the reasoning of most Naruto/Sakura fans I've seen).

My argument is that it is not necessary for Kishimoto to resolve these themes, as they are side characters. Ongoing canon would agree with what I am saying for the sheer fact that they haven't been resolved YET! Everyone suspected that Lee and Neji would have their own character developmental moments in the Rescue Gaara arc, and they did not. It may have pissed the fans off but it makes sense that they haven't, as it would detour the much more plot-driven flow of Part 2. No one knows the future, but given the length of chapters she has received no development and the lack of arcs she was featured in, I really don't see why Hinata's fate won't be the same as Neji when it comes to getting the 'no resolution' treament that the others have recieved.

True, Kishimoto isn't required to make a good story. He can do a half-assed ending and leave the non-main characters hanging if he wants to. I vaguely recall Kishimoto saying that one of his problems is that he has tons of things he needs to resolve in part 2, so if he wants to take the easy way out and give us a crappy ending, well, more power to him. :amuse

Though, even though the pattern of part 2 is different, Kishimoto has currently resolved the themes of two "side" characters: Gaara and Shikamaru.

Note my mention that 'she makes it her business to know'. She has a decent grasp of his past, personality and character because she found out about it. She didn't find out about it by walking up to him and asking.... she found out by stalking......>_>.....<_<........

Keep in mind that Naruto made every effort to get other people to notice him. So if Hinata decided to pay attention and learned more about Naruto where other people simply ignored him, does that make her a stalker?

Filler makes her look MORE like a stalker, but she has canonically stalked Naruto before!

I eagerly await your proof. Not that I'm saying it definitely didn't happen, but I don't recall seeing any conclusive evidence that Hinata did.

The reason behind the fainting is not important. The fact that she faints is enough. Unless she has a medical excuse, fainting before the man you have a crush on is fangirlism at its purest.

Reasons are quite important. Naruto is arguably the most important person in Hinata's life (And for good reason), so I have an easier time forgiving her difficulties than I would a fangirl's.

Tch.... I hear that celebs can get very emotional and open with their fans. smile-big

Ah... So being able to open up to someone and confess your weaknesses and doubts is a problem? Good thing Naruto and Sakura go to such lengths to avoid that, then! smile-big

I'm just getting warmed up!:kukuku

Then you just might be able to make me break a sweat. :wink Keep trying.

Wish I knew who you were talking about...:oh

A guy named KillerGiraffe, though I haven't seen him around in a while.

Oh also why do people keep implying that sakura would be a whore if she switched to sasuke..

Don't ask me; I've never agreed with that. Besides, it's a terrible argument that can be very easily flipped.

If I wanted to be completely, ball-busting technical.... I COULD just say that the 'I love you with all my heart!" line could in no way be confirmed as love in a romantic sense.... smile-big

Perhaps in the most technical sense, though taking the moment in the context of the rest of part 1 makes it exceedingly likely that it's meant romantically.

[Terror Incarnate50]

Lets go over the choices...

Narutoxsakura: FUCK NO Shes Ugly Flat Chested And Useless
NEXT
NarutoxSasuke: STOP SNIFFING CRACK Sasuke's Gay 110% But Naruto's Straight 999%
NEXT
NarutoxIno: What The Fuck Have You Been Smoking?
NEXT
NarutoxGarra: Umm You People Are Fucking Sick In The Head! STOP BEING GAY AND ACCUALY THINK ABOUT A REASONABLE PARRING FOR FUCKS SAKE!
NEXT
NarutoxAllTheOtherMenOnYourPoll: Fuck No You Should Die For Even Suggesting That Nasty Shit Go Dream Somewhere Else!
NEXT
NarutoxHinata: YES!! FUCK YES! DUMB ASSHOLES HINATA IS THE ONLY 1 WHO CAN BE WITH NARUTO DUH! SHES THE ONLY 1 WHO DIDN'T TREAT HIM LIKE SHIT! AND BESIDES NARUTO MAKES HINATAS SELF-CONFIDENCE GO UP. AND HINATA MAKES NARUTO HAPPY CUZ HE FINALLY HAS SOME 1 WHO LOVES HIM.

[~Gesy~]

how many times have we went over this.....hinata dammit:yell

[Terror Incarnate50]

EXACLTLY HINATA IS THE ONLY 1!

[Atanih88]

*sigh* I think I'm risking a bashing here after reading all the posts on this thread but... ppl, NarutoxSasuke - that is my favourite pairing, you don't have to agree and I respect that but hey - and after Chp. 347 no one can tell me that there are no underlying currents of yaoiness - even Sakura was reavealed to be a damn yaoi closet the way she reacted in chp. 347 (won't spoil anything - so have a look to see what I mean ^_6). Anyway - got off topic, sorry. Naruto and Sasuke all the way, but if it has to be a girl, I vote Hinata ^_^.

[Terror Incarnate50]

SOMEONE MAKE A GOD DAMN THREAD WHERE THE POLL IS ONLY FUCKING GIRLS THIS YAOI SHIT IS PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF!

[Hyuuga Hinata]

Hinata. Hehe. <3

[Cyckness]

She doesn't have to. I'm saying that the bonds were established in part 1 to be "brotherly" for Naruto and "romantic" for Sakura, so when Tsunade says their strong feelings will be what saves Sasuke, she's referring to these established bonds even if she doesn't know the exact nature of them personally.

Okay, got what your saying... Still doesn't prove that romantic feelings is what is motivating her.

I'm not saying Hinata hasn't developed any. Like I said, she's come a long way, but I take Hinata's reaction as indication that she's not done yet.

Not done.... telling Naruto how she feels about him



Excellently healing each other? What I see is the two of them putting on strong faces and pushing the other while hiding their own wounds.

I definitely see where your coming from, but the point is that both of them are keeping each other in high spirits about the defection, even if one of them is left crying in the night in front of a Team 7 picture every once in a while. :(

Besides, even if Sakura can also relate, it doesn't give her a monopoly on the matter. Iruka's not the only person Naruto ever related to on loneliness. Hinata's history gives her credible grounds to understand Naruto's situation here.

No, it does not... which is why I allow space for a possible NaruHina moment or two in the future. What I am saying is that Hinata's ability to relate to Naruto in terms of lost is not a very good example of what might lead to NaruHina, as Kishimoto is making it quite clear that Sakura is the primary person who is causing Naruto to weather the storm, and vice versa.

It's all a matter of perspective. Remember that Naruto/Sakura doesn't just mean no Naruto/Hinata, but no Sasuke/Sakura, either. Besides, if Kishimoto is not very careful, Naruto/Sakura could easily prove damaging to the tone of the manga (Like Sakura choosing Naruto because he's "better" than Sasuke, which unfortunately seems to be the reasoning of most Naruto/Sakura fans I've seen).

Hmmm.... I suppose its ultimately a matter of perspective... though I am having a hard time seeing how crafting a romance from a one-sided, over 100 chapter old pairing WOULDN'T hurt the manga severely. I understand that NaruSaku ruins the chances of two very popular pairings, but the manga is flowing in a way in which they are devleoping together, so it just makes sense to me. *shrugs*

And I am not familiar with the 'Naruto better then Sasuke' argument. Have I unknowingly fell into that category in our debate?:cry



True, Kishimoto isn't required to make a good story. He can do a half-assed ending and leave the non-main characters hanging if he wants to. I vaguely recall Kishimoto saying that one of his problems is that he has tons of things he needs to resolve in part 2, so if he wants to take the easy way out and give us a crappy ending, well, more power to him. :amuse

Though, even though the pattern of part 2 is different, Kishimoto has currently resolved the themes of two "side" characters: Gaara and Shikamaru.

Your first paragraph really did make me LOL, and I would say you make good points, but it is still a matter of opinion if the manga would be better or worse with unresolved themes.... Perhaps in Kishimoto's mind, characters like Neji Hinata and Lee HAVE resolved their issues the moment they gained the will to do so. After all, another primary theme of Naruto is the "Will of Fire". lol

The difference is Shikamaru had alot of arc coverage and Gaara has main plot relevance (he's a jinchuuriki). Hinata, Neji, Lee and the others have neither.

Keep in mind that Naruto made every effort to get other people to notice him. So if Hinata decided to pay attention and learned more about Naruto where other people simply ignored him, does that make her a stalker?

Well, if she did it by following him around and watching him without his persmission, then yes. :oh

I eagerly await your proof. Not that I'm saying it definitely didn't happen, but I don't recall seeing any conclusive evidence that Hinata did.

Its only one example, but it is an example nonetheless

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/Cyckness/naruto_ch238_p17.jpg

Note how she watches him.... from the shadows... without his persmission...<_<.....>_>....... yeah.... I am no expert on the definition of stalking, but.....

Reasons are quite important. Naruto is arguably the most important person in Hinata's life (And for good reason), so I have an easier time forgiving her difficulties than I would a fangirl's.

And you don't think the countless Beatles fans of the 60's didn't have their reasons for fainting when they saw them? I am sure that The Beatles were the most important people in their lives too... but they were still just fans :laugh

Ah... So being able to open up to someone and confess your weaknesses and doubts is a problem? Good thing Naruto and Sakura go to such lengths to avoid that, then! smile-big

Didn't say it was a problem.... just using it as an example of a celeb/fangirl pairing.

Nice crack about NaruSaku! I have to give you that one... but, of course, it is arguable that wallowing in weakness and doubts and having a pity party is more effective then encouraging each other to overcome those doubts by being strong for one another. :wink

Then you just might be able to make me break a sweat. :wink Keep trying.

I'd be disappointed if you folded so early on. I figure I can get a little more mileage out of you!:nod

Perhaps in the most technical sense, though taking the moment in the context of the rest of part 1 makes it exceedingly likely that it's meant romantically.

likely, but not quite canon.

j/k. I'll grant the idea that Sakura had romantic feelings for Sasuke..... in part 1.

[matt//reznor]

SOMEONE MAKE A GOD DAMN THREAD WHERE THE POLL IS ONLY FUCKING GIRLS THIS YAOI SHIT IS PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF!

Calm the fuck down, dude. Don't go all emo over it.

...Anyway, Gaara.

[Terror Incarnate50]

Me Emo? Ha I KILL EMOS THE DUMB BASTARDS!
NaruHina

[Terror Incarnate50]

Yeah I agree NarutoxHinata Kicks Ass!
Everything else sux monkey fuck!

[matt//reznor]

Me Emo? Ha I KILL EMOS THE DUMB BASTARDS!
NaruHina

Really? Because I heard when you kill an emo, you become one of them.

[Sweeney Todd]

Naruto and Saskue? Kakashi? Gaara!?

Naruto ain't gay. I'd say he's be best Sakura. There teammates, they work well together, Naruto already is up with her, its only a matter of time.

[Saosin]

Sasuke.

SOMEONE MAKE A GOD DAMN THREAD WHERE THE POLL IS ONLY FUCKING GIRLS THIS YAOI SHIT IS PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF!

Calm the fuck down.
It's a fictional universe. You pairingtards take everything way too seriously.

[natwel]

Hinata deserves naruto, as usual, but I really like seeing him having an affair with sasuke.

[dora ♥]

I voted for quite a few people up thurr...

But when it comes down to it, Hinata. :love

[Needless2say]

Hinata <333333

[Insein]

Can't believe Sasuke is beating Sakura. Sad, sad day.

[Red.Itachi]

Hinata Ftw she has a great new attractive look

[Sweeney Todd]

Can't believe Sasuke is beating Sakura. Sad, sad day.


yeah what the hell is wrong with you people?

[Sky is Over]

sakura; the manga is pointing towards it and she'd understand naruto and his problems.

[Soi Fon]

I voted Hinata. :neutral

[Insein]

While I love hinata, Sakura is the classic fairy tale ending for Naruto.

[Tmb04]

Sakura...Why all the damn dudes?

[Insein]

Sakura...Why all the damn dudes?

cause apparently theres alot of fags here.

[Tmb04]

cause apparently theres alot of fags here.

+rep for you, for being so damn funny :laugh

[Micah]

He should be dating Hinata! Yea...

[Insein]

+rep for you, for being so damn funny :laugh

thanks I'll get you back tommorrow. I'm repped out today.

[Veil of Dreams]

Okay, got what your saying... Still doesn't prove that romantic feelings is what is motivating her.

Perhaps not, but Naruto still considers Sasuke a brother, despite being rejected. But for Sakura, Sasuke's rejection did diminish or change her feelings?

Not done.... telling Naruto how she feels about him

Because she still lacks courage to do so, when developing courage is part of her quest for change.

I definitely see where your coming from, but the point is that both of them are keeping each other in high spirits about the defection, even if one of them is left crying in the night in front of a Team 7 picture every once in a while. :(

You consider "crying at night over a picture of team 7" being "in high spirits"? And Naruto brooding over Sasuke's words after their reunion, but lying and covering it up? As I see it, their "high spirits" are only mask deep.

No, it does not... which is why I allow space for a possible NaruHina moment or two in the future. What I am saying is that Hinata's ability to relate to Naruto in terms of lost is not a very good example of what might lead to NaruHina, as Kishimoto is making it quite clear that Sakura is the primary person who is causing Naruto to weather the storm, and vice versa.

But there's still the problem of Naruto and Sakura lying to each other to appear strong. An appropriate saying is "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

On the training field, Naruto was able to let down his mask and admit his self doubts to Hinata, despite him having never done so before in the series (As my memory serves). Perhaps Hinata can be a better choice than Sakura in that sense, if Naruto is unable or unwilling to confide in Sakura?

Hmmm.... I suppose its ultimately a matter of perspective... though I am having a hard time seeing how crafting a romance from a one-sided, over 100 chapter old pairing WOULDN'T hurt the manga severely. I understand that NaruSaku ruins the chances of two very popular pairings, but the manga is flowing in a way in which they are devleoping together, so it just makes sense to me. *shrugs*

It would hurt if Hinata just reappears and confesses in the next chapter. But I, like many others believe team 8 will get its own arc with Hinata as the focus (Similar to team sand with Gaara as the focus or team 10 with Shikamaru as the focus), which should provide plenty of time to "blow the dust off" Naruto/Hinata so it won't feel like it came out of left field.

And I am not familiar with the 'Naruto better then Sasuke' argument. Have I unknowingly fell into that category in our debate?:cry

Oh no, I wasn't trying to say that applied to you. But the argument is unfortunately quite prevalent. :notrust

Your first paragraph really did make me LOL, and I would say you make good points, but it is still a matter of opinion if the manga would be better or worse with unresolved themes.... Perhaps in Kishimoto's mind, characters like Neji Hinata and Lee HAVE resolved their issues the moment they gained the will to do so. After all, another primary theme of Naruto is the "Will of Fire". lol

I certainly hope not. This manga is going to get very boring very quickly if all of the side characters just vanish off the face of the Narutoverse. There's a good reason why the chuunin exam arc is a popular favorite.

The difference is Shikamaru had alot of arc coverage and Gaara has main plot relevance (he's a jinchuuriki). Hinata, Neji, Lee and the others have neither.

If you discount the latest arc, Neji and Lee have had a reasonably similar amount of screen time compared to Shikamaru. And all three have backgrounds and themes that can easily be considered incomplete.

Well, if she did it by following him around and watching him without his persmission, then yes.

If the person is screaming for attention, permission is pretty much a given. :P

Besides, just from actually paying attention to Naruto in the academy (Instead of laughing at him and then ignoring him), Hinata could easily reach the level of understanding she has. Where others witnessed Naruto struggling and failing and only saw a laughable loser, Hinata saw someone both like her, an unacknowledged weakling, and someone like her, a person with the determination and faith in himself to keep pushing on despite his mistakes.

Its only one example, but it is an example nonetheless

*Image removed for image limit*

Note how she watches him.... from the shadows... without his persmission...<_<.....>_>....... yeah.... I am no expert on the definition of stalking, but.....

Well, she wanted to go see him off, but she could not summon the will to go just a little bit further. :cry

And you don't think the countless Beatles fans of the 60's didn't have their reasons for fainting when they saw them? I am sure that The Beatles were the most important people in their lives too... but they were still just fans :laugh

Beatles fangirl: "Oh, their music is soooo awesome and they're soooo dreamy!"

Hinata: "This is the person who saved me from a meaningless life of uselessness and got me to believe in myself again and gain some sense of self worth!"

If both were to tell me who their most important person is and why, I would find Hinata's reasons far more credible.

Didn't say it was a problem.... just using it as an example of a celeb/fangirl pairing.

But it's not a trait unique to celebrity/fangirl; it's also a trait present in a healthy relationship. It's a very good thing to have.

Nice crack about NaruSaku! I have to give you that one... but, of course, it is arguable that wallowing in weakness and doubts and having a pity party is more effective then encouraging each other to overcome those doubts by being strong for one another. :wink

I think confessing your doubts so that someone can help you overcome them is more effective than hiding your doubts and crying in your room at night. :P

I'd be disappointed if you folded so early on. I figure I can get a little more mileage out of you!:nod

Better turn up the heat, because it still feels like a pleasant chat. smile-big

likely, but not quite canon.

j/k. I'll grant the idea that Sakura had romantic feelings for Sasuke..... in part 1.

Indeed she did. Now if we can just get a concrete indication that her feelings have changed, I'll agree that she no longer loves him.

Yeah I agree NarutoxHinata Kicks Ass!
Everything else sux monkey fuck!

If you can't express your opinion in a mature fashion, please keep it to yourself.

[Darkhope]

Hm. Well gee what a real tough decision on my part. :oh

[shadow_D]

NaruSaku !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitely Sakura

[Terror Incarnate50]

yeah this really does sux....lol naruto with another boy......LOOL SORRY ITS FUNNY......In a gay kinda way....NARU HINATA fOREVER! Yes they r winning nothing can beat them....NOTHING! cept a bunch of gay people voting for narusasu

[Terror Incarnate50]

wait what r the choices again..i kinda forgot lol :0

[shadow_D]

Still say Naruto should end up whit Sakura

[Serene.Shinobi]

I think he should be dating Hinata if he ever dates. xD

[Pure As Snow]

hinata hands down:nod

[*Ex-PrinCeSs*]

sasunaru>> every other pairing:). So Guess who I voted for, don't care if I'm a fag:wink.

[Woodrokiro]

Hinata (when she gets up the courage to tell Naruto her feelings..)

[matt//reznor]

cause apparently theres alot of fags here.

Charming. I only voted for Gaara just to laugh at the reactions of terrorincarnate. I'm actually straight, but I'm not afraid of gay people.

+rep for you, for being so damn funny

You must be easily amused, or just plain stupid.

[Insein]

Charming. I only voted for Gaara just to laugh at the reactions of terrorincarnate. I'm actually straight, but I'm not afraid of gay people.



You must be easily amused, or just plain stupid.

What was funny about it? You think gay people are funny? Ok.

I was merely commenting on how Naruto has shown no gay tendencies and yet people seem to want him to get it on with Sasuke. To me that suggests that there are either alot of fags on this board or some really confused girls.

[Saosin]

I was merely commenting on how Naruto has shown no gay tendencies and yet people seem to want him to get it on with Sasuke. To me that suggests that there are either alot of fags on this board or some really confused girls.

Since when does a pairing have to be canon for someone to like it? :huh

[matt//reznor]

What was funny about it? You think gay people are funny? Ok.

I was merely commenting on how Naruto has shown no gay tendencies and yet people seem to want him to get it on with Sasuke. To me that suggests that there are either alot of fags on this board or some really confused girls.

I didn't say gay people are funny. I said that the reactions of some people on this board are funny.

Haven't you noticed that yaoi parings are formed by fans in just about every anime? Whether the characters have gays tendencies or not, there will always be made-up pairings. It's like a craze, originated in Japan.

[Insein]

yea. Cause its gay. Finding to people of the same sex in a relationship together as attractive makes you gay.

Now girls i can kind of understand because they are trying to be like guys wanting to see 2 girls kissing. But i don't think there are that many girls on here.

[matt//reznor]

yea. Cause its gay. Finding to people of the same sex in a relationship together as attractive makes you gay.

I never said it was attractive. I just think if it actually does happen in Naruto, it wouldn't bother me much at all and I wouldn't be offended. That's doesn't mean I'm gay, it means I'm being tolerant.

BTW, most Yaoi fans are girls.

[Insein]

If it did happen in Naruto, I'd be extremely offended. Now if Kishi started off with a character that was inward thinking about being attracted to males from the get go, I'd can see it happening. Naruto has shown zero gay tendencies throughout the series. To say that him "dating" a guy in the show is even remotely possible, is to severely overstate the case.

Besides, if you didnt find it attractive, why vote for Gaara.

[Vixey]

I think that Naruto would have the best relationship with Hinata.. :D He and Sasuke are like brothers. He and Sakura are like 'Best Friends'. He and Ino... well... I just don't get that one XD. Hinata has liked him from the beginning and their relationship has been very cute as it has unfolded.. out of this group at least, I think that Hinata would be the best choice.

What's with the other choices by the way? Hehehe... Iruka? WTF? Kakashi? Double WTF? Sai? Neji? Shikamaru? X_x None of those even make sense.. it sort of bothers me how many people out there support pairings just because they'd like to see the two characters screwing. I support yaoi if the pairing makes sense... not because I think it's 'teh hot'.

[naruhina26]

Where`s the choice for Ayame the ramen girl

[Rori]

To me that suggests that there are either alot of fags on this board or some really confused girls.

Then a huge amount of the Naruto fans are fags because have you noticed which pairing is most popular?

SASUNARU

[Vicious-chan]

Then a huge amount of the Naruto fans are fags because have you noticed which pairing is most popular?

SASUNARU

lol.. NaruHina seems to be more popular from what I've seen around the internet. *shrugs* but whatever.. sasunaru is just dumb. Sasuke seems more asexual than bi, straight, or gay. (god I hope I have terminology right.. I suck with that..)

[Saya]

lol.. NaruHina seems to be more popular from what I've seen around the internet. *shrugs* but whatever.. sasunaru is just dumb. Sasuke seems more asexual than bi, straight, or gay. (god I hope I have terminology right.. I suck with that..)

SasuNaru is actually extremely popular in Japan. :noworry

[Simmy]

Ok, LOLOL,
I have a few things to say. Gaara? Kakashi? IRUKA?? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! not that I have anything against people who like yaoi but LOL!!!! That is just weird. People who voted for them are.... WEIRD!
*pffffhahahahah*
I chose Hinata. Lol but that probably will not happen, like before the third part of the Chuunin exam and they were talking and then it was like *dead silence*
that was funny :P But meh.
Blah! Me no want it to be Sakura.

[Insein]

Then a huge amount of the Naruto fans are fags because have you noticed which pairing is most popular?

SASUNARU

Thankfully even though there are only 3 girls in this ridiculous poll, they all have more votes than the 7 guys on the poll.

[Saffi]

wow, what's with all the arguements? So there is difference of opinion..oh well..

Anyhows, just to add to all this; i don't really like any of the pairings; I haven't yet seen someone that would be 'perfect' for Naruto but then again, i don't think he ever will (I one of those pessimistic people who believe that true love is very hard to find.). IF i had to go with someone it would be HinXNaru. Though i would love GaaraXNaru only because i think it was so so sweet in the way naruto helped Gaara understand some key aspects to life, though realistically; it wouldn't happen.

[Kakashi Love]

I vote on a new character! sakura is too obsessed with sasuke still. and hinata will marry neji to preserve their bloodline.

Naruto will end up with a feisty jinchuriki, with blue hair, possibly the 8 tail?

[zaraki_ken]

vote for hinata... she rather the only one who like naruto..

[Rori]

lol.. NaruHina seems to be more popular from what I've seen around the internet. *shrugs* but whatever.. sasunaru is just dumb. Sasuke seems more asexual than bi, straight, or gay. (god I hope I have terminology right.. I suck with that..)

what nami said. :noworry

Thankfully even though there are only 3 girls in this ridiculous poll, they all have more votes than the 7 guys on the poll.

Sasuke's pretty much caught up to Sakura. :P

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I voted for Sakura. but that was predictable :P.

[Liz Lemon]

Hinata.... or anyone else but sakura :can

[matt//reznor]

Besides, if you didnt find it attractive, why vote for Gaara.

Re-read post on page 5.

[Tmb04]

You must be easily amused, or just plain stupid.

Sorry buddy, I'm not stupid. I'm not easily amused either. The guy said something I thought was funny and it made me laugh. So I said i'll give him rep...:notrust

[matt//reznor]

Sorry buddy, I'm not stupid. I'm not easily amused either. The guy said something I thought was funny and it made me laugh. So I said i'll give him rep...:notrust

What's funny about calling everyone fags?

[Tmb04]

What's funny about calling everyone fags?

I didnt say anything was funny about calling people fags. But I mean come on, This poll has 3 females and 7 Males. It was just unexpected to see someone say that....Thats all. :oh

[Pein]

1000 KN3 KB and gangbang all the Konoha women

qft i think thats the best way to go

[Insein]

lol, i love the anonymous comments.

"Thread Date Comment
Vote! Naruto should be... 03-27-2007 10:38 AM The only thing sad here is you. You are a sad existance and just should quit the forum. Seriously."

Guess they felt so strong about it that they didnt want to leave their name. Aww to bad. Sorry to burst your gay little fantasy.

[TickleMePink]

Hinata of course! :P

[Emma_rules_!]

Sasuke obviously, they are like soulmates without even noticing it :love !

[Mishari]

he asked her for a date and blushed. and she said yes. so what we need more??? xDDD give narusaku a little more time. u will see. ^^

[ArtsaBang]

he asked her for a date and blushed. and she said yes. so what we need more??? xDDD give narusaku a little more time. u will see. ^^

Yeah, I was totally into NAruHina before, but after that little number, and all these recent numbers, I really want NaruSaku to happen :thumbs

[ChowMein]

he asked her for a date and blushed. and she said yes. so what we need more??? xDDD give narusaku a little more time. u will see. ^^

yeah, after she agreed, she said "only if you paid"...she probably said yes just so she could get it for free :noworry

[Mishari]

this is called humor. a little (in german called) auflockerung.. making the situation not so serious. and before that she said thats fine and you can see she looks happy. look at her smile.

[ArtsaBang]

yeah, after she agreed, she said "only if you paid"...she probably said yes just so she could get it for free :noworry

No, I think it was half and half; remember, she's really proud of the way Naruto's been growing up, and recently

She even offered to feed Naruto ramen because his Right arm was messed up. That's pretty shmexy.

SLowly and steadily she's starting to warm up to him more and more :thumbs

[Mishari]

SLowly and steadily she's starting to warm up to him more and more :thumbs


YEAH! more and more. she blushed for him too. :amuse

[ChowMein]

this is called humor. a little (in german called) auflockerung.. making the situation not so serious. and before that she said thats fine and you can see she looks happy. look at her smile.

she's smiling almost jokingly...

No, I think it was half and half; remember, she's really proud of the way Naruto's been growing up, and recently

She even offered to feed Naruto ramen because his Right arm was messed up. That's pretty shmexy.

SLowly and steadily she's starting to warm up to him more and more :thumbs

well duh! of course she's proud...he's her friend and teammate!:notrust

[Mishari]

ok. you want to say if you like some one really really much... (and there is going on more slowly) you have to blush and start to....

XYZ: ha... *blush* *shaking* hai... na... na... naruto-... naruto-kun... ... *silence*

and not to smile happy/jokingly (whatever) at him and say something funny/not to serious to relax the situation?

myself would prefer REALLY the second option. really. :amuse

[ArtsaBang]

well duh! of course she's proud...he's her friend and teammate!:notrust

Exactly, that proudness is essentially being translated into a sort of friendly love that is obviously slowly and steadily developing into more.

ok. you want to say if you like some one really really much... (and there is going on more slowly) you have to blush and start to....

XYZ: ha... *blush* *shaking* hai... na... na... naruto-... naruto-kun... ... *silence*

and not to smile happy/jokingly (whatever) at him and say something funny/not to serious to relax the situation?

myself would prefer REALLY the second option. really.

Yeah, exactly. Although the first option obviously shows that the person (Hinata :P) really likes Naruto. The second option (Sakura) has a large amount of potential, that seems to be developing into more, like I keep saying

[Tyrannos]

But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :wink

[Micah]

But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :wink

Was she clenching her fist in anger? Or was she pushing Naruto with her shoulder towards Sai >:D

Sakura still has the hots for Sasuke anyways...you saw her reaction to a neked Sasuke and Sasuke look-alike on top of each other :D

[ArtsaBang]

But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :wink

For which part? :huh

Sakura still has the hots for Sasuke anyways...you saw her reaction to a neked Sasuke and Sasuke look-alike on top of each other :D

Yeah, that's true lol

[Kanae]

SLowly and steadily she's starting to warm up to him more and more :thumbs

Agree :nod

Exactly, that proudness is essentially being translated into a sort of friendly love that is obviously slowly and steadily developing into more.
Agree again :nod


But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :winkAnd I agree yet once again :grin

I actually thought that that scene was pretty funny ^^ and if it wasn't for that fist, I'd really understand where is every Anti-NaruSaku coming from, but when I saw that fist :wtf it just seemed to me that Sakura was at least slightly annoyed by the fact that they were interrupted :grin

Sakura still has the hots for Sasuke anyways...you saw her reaction to a neked Sasuke and Sasuke look-alike on top of each other :D
Yeah, but I have said many times before, the emotinal connection is now with Naruto, and that, to me at least, means a lot more. Besides, she wasn't only drooling over Sasuke and a Sasuke-look-alike. She was drooling over Sasuke AND Sai So I guess you could say she has the hots for Sai as well :nod :P

[ChowMein]

ok. you want to say if you like some one really really much... (and there is going on more slowly) you have to blush and start to....

XYZ: ha... *blush* *shaking* hai... na... na... naruto-... naruto-kun... ... *silence*

and not to smile happy/jokingly (whatever) at him and say something funny/not to serious to relax the situation?

myself would prefer REALLY the second option. really. :amuse


Wha? Sakura's not really the kind to stutter and blush...

And besides, she's standing straight up as if joking. If she were to agree with the date and smiling to relax the situation, she would be doing it more sweetly.

Naruto was blushing cuz, duh, he has a crush on her still....

but the date thing was nonromantic at all...

(and man i can't believe i'm about to say this) but still, just like shisui2006-san said, it's non platonic either...

So I'm just saying that the date thing isn't really a romantic sign...just a development of their respect for each other

But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :wink

it could also be the fact that she doesn't like Sai

[Veil of Dreams]

But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :wink

You do know that if you hold your forearm up like that, your fingers naturally curl, right? Besides, if we were supposed to get the impression that Sakura was annoyed, there would've been some sort of sound effect or motion wave to indicate that she was clenching her fist, not to mention she wouldn't have seemed so completely unaffected when she talked to Kakashi mere seconds later. Apparently the only one "feeling the mood" was Naruto. :amuse

[Kanae]

Besides, if we were supposed to get the impression that Sakura was annoyed, there would've been some sort of sound effect or motion wave to indicate that she was clenching her fist, not to mention she wouldn't have seemed so completely unaffected when she talked to Kakashi mere seconds later. Apparently the only one "feeling the mood" was Naruto.
Well I actually have to agree with this ^^U since I thought of that as well xP But I don't think that those fingers curled up by themselves, though =/ I think that if that fist was placed by Kishimoto-sensei there it has to mean something :nod ^^

[ArtsaBang]

It's always nice to agree, Kanae :P

[Tyrannos]

For which part? :huh

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/343mq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26539

[QUOTE=Pokeyounojutsu]Was she clenching her fist in anger? Or was she pushing Naruto with her shoulder towards Sai >:D

No offense to NaruHina fans, but why are you all always in the state of denial? :P

Besides, if she did, then the movement would have been indicated. :wink

And it wouldn't make sense with Sakura moving closer in the first place. :notrust

Sakura still has the hots for Sasuke anyways...you saw her reaction to a neked Sasuke and Sasuke look-alike on top of each other :D

Yes, she was excited about seeing that Yaoi moment. But doesn't mean she has the hots for Sai. Besides, your downplaying the moments after with Sakura being revealed as a closet-pervert. :laugh


As I keep saying, right now NaruHina seems unlikely because Hinata hasn't done anything but faint. Besides, when has not the hero of a Shonen not end up with someone he had interest with? :P

Dunno about you all, but I'm going to keep an open mind and wait for that defining moment.

[ChowMein]

Well I actually have to agree with this ^^U since I thought of that as well xP But I don't think that those fingers curled up by themselves, though =/ I think that if that fist was placed by Kishimoto-sensei there it has to mean something :nod ^^

which chapter was this in? is it the one where Naruto is being fed?

[Veil of Dreams]

Well I actually have to agree with this ^^U since I thought of that as well xP But I don't think that those fingers curled up by themselves, though =/ I think that if that fist was placed by Kishimoto-sensei there it has to mean something :nod ^^

It might just mean Sakura retracted her arm quickly so she wouldn't get hit when Naruto started freaking out over Sai. :P

[Kanae]

It's always nice to agree, Kanae :P
:nod Indeed :P

[Mishari]

Wha? Sakura's not really the kind to stutter and blush...

And besides, she's standing straight up as if joking. If she were to agree with the date and smiling to relax the situation, she would be doing it more sweetly.

Naruto was blushing cuz, duh, he has a crush on her still....

but the date thing was nonromantic at all...



i only want to now what reaction u awate from her to say "yes this is not only joking she really like him more then just... teammate... etc. pp."

yes the date was nonromantic. do you found ramen dates so romantic? i mean i know from myself that the best dates are the funny and relaxed dates (for me). ok romantic sometimes better but this comes then slowly after that. this is from type to type different.

[Kanae]

It might just mean Sakura retracted her arm quickly so she wouldn't get hit when Naruto started freaking out over Sai. :PMaybe it could, but maybe it isn't just that :P But that scene is open to very different interpretations and no matter how hard we try we would never be able to know exactly what it meant, since the only one who knows why in the world he draw that fist is Kishimoto-sensei himself :P

which chapter was this in? is it the one where Naruto is being fed?
Yeah ^^ If I remember correctly it's exactly on the scene when Sai is interferring ^^

[ChowMein]

All i have to say (about the date i mean) is

Yes, no, maybe so, I don't know...

You think the date is a big thing cause it shows Sakura's change and development of feelings,

While I think that the date was just a plot for Sakura to get the meal for free because she was a little desperate for food at the moment.

Well, actually, i think it's a lil of both...hrmmmm.....

just like i said, "yes, no, maybe so, I don't know" *:nodding*

[Micah]

[QUOTE=ArtsaBang]For which part? :huh

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/343mq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26539



No offense to NaruHina fans, but why are you all always in the state of denial? :P

Besides, if she did, then the movement would have been indicated. :wink



Yes, she was excited about seeing that Yaoi moment. But doesn't mean she has the hots for Sai. Besides, your downplaying the moments after with Sakura being revealed as a closet-pervert. :laugh


As I keep saying, right now NaruHina seems unlikely because Hinata hasn't done anything but faint. Besides, when has not the hero of a Shonen not end up with someone he had interest with? :P

Dunno about you all, but I'm going to keep an open mind and wait for that defining moment.

I am not in denial I was just being sarcastic :amazed [/denial] It just didnt look angry to me(anger would have been indicated like VoD said :wink), so I have to come up with a reason for her arm being like that, and her arm placement as well as Naruto's just looks to me like she might be blocking off an escape.

Im not downplaying it, Im just saying she got to see Sasuke and a known Sasuke look-alike neked with each other :jk I didnt say she had the hots for Sai, just that Sai has been said to look like Sasuke.

You dont seem to have an open mind though :P, in reality none of us really do :( we all have minor biases.

[Veil of Dreams]

Maybe it could, but maybe it isn't just that :P But that scene is open to very different interpretations and no matter how hard we try we would never be able to know exactly what it meant, since the only one who knows why in the world he draw that fist is Kishimoto-sensei himself :P


Indeed. Like I've said countless times before, nothing is going to change on this particular front until Sakura demonstrates a more concrete sign of romantic affection... Or perhaps the other way around, if she says something like she loves Naruto like a brother.

[Mishari]

yes. sure. i think its a big change. in the past she would hit him and leave the place. i think so.

if hinata would ask naruto for a date (ramen) and he would smile at her and agree you all would freak out. maybe. :amuse :P

[Tyrannos]

I am not in denial I was just being sarcastic :amazed [/denial] It just didnt look angry to me(anger would have been indicated like VoD said :wink), so I have to come up with a reason for her arm being like that, and her arm placement as well as Naruto's just looks to me like she might be blocking off an escape.

Im not downplaying it, Im just saying she got to see Sasuke and a known Sasuke look-alike neked with each other :jk I didnt say she had the hots for Sai, just that Sai has been said to look like Sasuke.

You dont seem to have an open mind though :P, in reality none of us really do :( we all have minor biases.

LOL Sarcasm gets you no where. :wink

To me, when I see someone ball up their fist, that indicates Anger. And it is comically supported with us not seeing her face. Her arm up in that position isn't in a good attack or defensive posture.

Sort of like, "Damn, Sai just interfered!" (See I didn't indicate a romantic moment). :P

As for that Yaoi moment, I don't blame you. Obviously Sasuke is still a weakspot, else Konohamaru would not have used him in getting her back.

But really I cannot automatically say she still is in love with Sasuke due to that moment. Else that would mean she has strong feelings for Sai too, and we know that is not the case. :P


All in all, we probably will soon find out in the Manga, since it is obviously gearing up for another Naruto vs Sasuke moment. Hopefully the truth will finally be revealed. Because there two things driving me crazy with regards to Naruto 1) the truth if Naruto is or not the son of the Yondaime. 2) this pairing discussion. Will it be NaruSaku, NaruHina, or nobody? :notrust

Because all these pairing threads do is run in circles and end up with hostile remarks in which even the most innocent comment can lead to a neg rep.

[Kanae]

Indeed. Like I've said countless times before, nothing is going to change on this particular front until Sakura demonstrates a more concrete sign of romantic affection... Or perhaps the other way around, if she says something like she loves Naruto like a brother.

All its still pretty much in the open right now :nod, but what I always defend (dunno how to say that in english xP) it's the fact that as things are right now, Sakura has more possibilities of ending up with Naruto than Hinata.
We don't know if that may change later (though I don't think so) but that just means that Kishimoto is a really umpredictable (Thanks to Charu-san for the help! ^^) writter, so anything can happen in the Naruto Manga ^^
Though it's still pretty much NaruSaku for me :P


Because all these pairing threads do is run in circles and end up with hostile remarks in which even the most innocent comment can lead to a neg rep.

=O so, so true :nod It's important to keep this kind of debates in firendly-terms, because that's what they are, debates. No discussions for us to rip out throaths off >=( besides, no matter how much we argue or insult each other, is Kishi-sensei who has the last word :nod

[Terror Incarnate50]

They better get sasuke back so sakura can go back to being sasukes fan girl and leave naruto the hell alone

[Mishari]

Sakura-chan. But he already dated her, maybe this time a more special date. Or he can date Hinata, too see how lucky he is with Sakura. Hehe. :amuse

[ChowMein]

i think that the gesture Sakura was doing was a simple posture that most anime people draw on some sort of shy anime girl...like the following pic:

(hinata has nothing to do with this...just observe the pose)

http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/naruto/hahmot_hinata.jpg

kinda like what Neji said about "creating a wall between two people" or something

[Mishari]

she isn't a damn fangirl anymore. you can see it on her reaction.

in the opposite hinata is still a stalker/fangirl. sakura changed, from what we can see. (dont know... maybe she screams loudly and stalks him when sasuke returns to konoha... but i dont think so)

[ChowMein]

All its still pretty much in the open right now :nod, but what I always defend (dunno how to say that in english xP) it's the fact that as things are right now, Sakura has more possibilities of ending up with Naruto than Hinata.
We don't know if that may change later (though I don't think so) but that just means that Kishimoto is a really umpredecible (dunno, again xD) writter, so anything can happen in the Naruto Manga ^^
Though it's still pretty much NaruSaku for me :P


i think what you mean is UNPREDICTABLE?

yeah, i pretty much said that somewhere in this website before...
Kishi-sama really is unpredictable, especially in romance, because, once again, this is shounen...

It's also possible that Kishi-sama is relating all this to his perspective in life, so no one knows if a romantic relationship will develop between NaruSaku and/or NaruHina

[Micah]

LOL Sarcasm gets you no where. :wink

To me, when I see someone ball up their fist, that indicates Anger. And it is comically supported with us not seeing her face. Her arm up in that position isn't in a good attack or defensive posture.

Sort of like, "Damn, Sai just interfered!" (See I didn't indicate a romantic moment). :P

As for that Yaoi moment, I don't blame you. Obviously Sasuke is still a weakspot, else Konohamaru would not have used him in getting her back.

But really I cannot automatically say she still is in love with Sasuke due to that moment. Else that would mean she has strong feelings for Sai too, and we know that is not the case. :P


All in all, we probably will soon find out in the Manga, since it is obviously gearing up for another Naruto vs Sasuke moment. Hopefully the truth will finally be revealed. Because there two things driving me crazy with regards to Naruto 1) the truth if Naruto is or not the son of the Yondaime. 2) this pairing discussion. Will it be NaruSaku, NaruHina, or nobody? :notrust

Because all these pairing threads do is run in circles and end up with hostile remarks in which even the most innocent comment can lead to a neg rep.

Sarcasm makes the world go round smile-big

Those 2 things of yours are top of my "What I want to know list" along with Kabuto and Madara and Itachi. What is their deal?! :yell

Thankfully I havnt received any neg reps in pairing threads yet :phew


she isn't a damn fangirl anymore. you can see it on her reaction.

in the opposite hinata is still a stalker/fangirl. sakura changed, from what we can see. (dont know... maybe she screams loudly and stalks him when sasuke returns to konoha... but i dont think so)

Sakura stopped being a fangirl a long time ago, before her "I love you" confession to Sasuke.

And it was anime filler that made Hinata look like a stalker. Besides even if that were the case, Hinata wont stay like that what with her theme and all...Kishi better finish off his side-characters.

[Kanae]

i think that the gesture Sakura was doing was a simple posture that most anime people draw on some sort of shy anime girl...like the following pic:

Uhm.. the only problem here is that Sakura isn't exactly the shy type; in fact, she's the complete opposite of it, and even more so when she's around Naruto, which is when her Inner Sakura personality comes out most of the time ^^
And also, her position as nothing like Hinata's, which is of a shy type. And I don't see the relationship with Sakura's fist with what Neji said, either. Since their fists positions are different and everything...

But as I said before, it doesn't have sense to argue about this scene, since it's interpretations pretty much varies with whoever reads the chapter, so it's hard to reach an agreement about it ^^


i think what you mean is UNPREDICTABLE?

That was exactly what I meant xD Thank you! ^^ :glomp Now I'm finally able to fix my mistake and edit my post :yell :grin

[ChowMein]

she isn't a damn fangirl anymore. you can see it on her reaction.

in the opposite hinata is still a stalker/fangirl. sakura changed, from what we can see. (dont know... maybe she screams loudly and stalks him when sasuke returns to konoha... but i dont think so)

Hinata's not really a "stalker", as you say...

I don't think Kishi-sama intended for her to be so, either, because there is no proof in the Manga...
If Hinata really was a stalker, we would have seen her in part 2, following naruto around, instead of hiding and blushing and thinking "GAH! OH NO! I'M NOT READY YET! WHAT SHOULD I DO?!" in that scene.:oh

[Mishari]

we don't know what she makes in her freetime. but she is the most ideal type for stalking some one, to be near some one, but so the person doesn't notice it. and i mean first seeing hinata she is nearly on panic because naruto was returning. and when he leaves... who was there, behind something, watching him secretly? hinaaata. xDD

sure she is not a crazy stalker ;) only the girly-type-stalker (awww can't say that in english u__u mea culpa!!!)

[gabzilla]

But Sakura was obviously pissed off when Sai ruined the moment, else she wouldn't be clinching her fist in anger. :wink

I smell desesperation.

Yes, she was so angry she immediately greeted Kakashi-sensei with a big smile.

:nuts

she isn't a damn fangirl anymore. you can see it on her reaction.

in the opposite hinata is still a stalker/fangirl. sakura changed, from what we can see. (dont know... maybe she screams loudly and stalks him when sasuke returns to konoha... but i dont think so)

Hinata bashing blah blah blah.

You seem to love using filler as evidence.

[kyuubi425]

Ummm Hinata was never a stalker/fangirl. All the scenes shown of her witnessing the villages hatred of him where when she just happened to be in the same area. And being that she had little to no contact with anyone besides her overbearing clan until the academy, where she still was an outcast until she joined Team 8, and she sees this boy in a similar situation as her gathering the courage to stand up for himself, its only right that she draws strength from that.

[Mishari]

Yes, I forget.

the naruhina fandom doesn't use the fillers with hinata and naruto to demonstrate naruhina... Noooo.. naaah... blaaah... i only figured out.

we see sakura.

she changed. (polite, blushing, gentle, usefull)

we see hinata.

she is the same from her way to act. she couldn't change much.

but yes we doesnt see much from her so lets see???

[VirusClyne]

I voted Sasuke, because Naruto finally needs to convince that fucker that they are so much alike and have the deepest bond out of all bonds ever, it should definitely develop further and in any directions possible :amuse.

Then I voted Shikamaru, because I am just mad like that :nuts.

[ChowMein]

we don't know what she makes in her freetime. but she is the most ideal type for stalking some one, to be near some one, but so the person doesn't notice it. and i mean first seeing hinata she is nearly on panic because naruto was returning. and when he leaves... who was there, behind something, watching him secretly? hinaaata. xDD

sure she is not a crazy stalker ;) only the girly-type-stalker (awww can't say that in english u__u mea culpa!!!)

wait...what? isn't that the same thing?

hmm...maybe she stalks, but yes, she's not a crazy stalker...

[Mishari]

wait...what? isn't that the same thing?

hmm...maybe she stalks, but yes, she's not a crazy stalker...

stalking is a very serious thing. the make the weaker version of stalking. girlie stalking.

[ChowMein]

NO WAIT! read this, people(mishari)!

Ummm Hinata was never a stalker/fangirl. All the scenes shown of her witnessing the villages hatred of him where when she just happened to be in the same area. And being that she had little to no contact with anyone besides her overbearing clan until the academy, where she still was an outcast until she joined Team 8, and she sees this boy in a similar situation as her gathering the courage to stand up for himself, its only right that she draws strength from that.

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Yes, I forget.

the naruhina fandom doesn't use the fillers with hinata and naruto to demonstrate naruhina... Noooo.. naaah... blaaah... i only figured out.

we see sakura.

she changed. (polite, blushing, gentle, usefull)

we see hinata.

she is the same from her way to act. she couldn't change much.

but yes we doesnt see much from her so lets see???

wha? who said anything about not using the fillers?

[Kurau]

Sakura, I think.. mainly because she's only been warming up to him since they first were a team. Although she might think she likes sasuke, in reality they're both fighting for the same cause and thats what brings them together more than Sasuke could ever do.

[Mishari]

yes. pure randoms. yes yes.

[Terror Incarnate50]

well....we all know that sakura was way more of a stalker than hinata..............HELL she was more stalker than anybody else onthe whole damn show....besides she alreadys says she loves Naruto as a brother nothing more! I mean she was fucking sasukes shadow stalker....like right next to him all the fucking time never letting him out of her sight thats more pethedic than......Yeah its pethedic

[kyuubi425]

You cant really judge her on her initial appearance because she just wasnt prepared to see him again. She knew he was back, but when she turned the corner and he was just there, her nerves were shot, just like Sakura after seeing Sasuke-kun again. Then to top it all off he pops up right into her face all happy and exited to see his old friends again while shes busy getting her thoughts together so she can approach him without blurting out her feelings and embarrassing herself, and she faints.

[Mishari]

yo. i know. but is she still bitchy to Naruto and Sasuke's fangirl? don't think so.