Berserk Discussion Thread

[Freija]

I mean, you can defend it all you want too...

but the truth is, it took an entire year for about 1 night of story line to advance......

and their is a differnce between having a good plot and not advancing in plot for a year..

beserk is probably one of the best written stories i've ever read....but it took over a year to get passed ONE fight (that wasn't even that interesting). I guess it's finally starting to pick up again, but it still just the next day and another fight.

i agree with it going slow, but if you look at the name of this arc it's "Falconia", so it's more or less about griffith getting his country now

[Zaru]

Here I wonder, what does being a God hand mean?

Griffith became one, and now he's on earth again, getting his fame. Did the other god hands also become what they are, descended back on earth to fullfill a dream and then returned? Or what is the "occupation" of a god hand? :oh

[Segan]

@9Tails: Don't bother with the lack of plot advancing...that's just the way things are. Miura is more of a type who builds up the plot little by little and then, suddenly with all the built-up stuff the story makes a huge advancement...
But if you want complain, then complain. I enjoy his drawings way too much that I would bother about the speed of plot advancing... :wink

@Zaru: Nope, apparently none of the God Hand except for Griffith ever went back to their human forms.
As for their occupations...well, one of them caused the plague, so we can guess, they like to bring misfortune into the world.

[Freija]

Well, 5 godhand members = the apocalypse ? the 5 riders y'know ?

@above where was this plague mentioned :omg

[Segan]

I believe, this was around the time Guts' journey with Casca began. Vol 23, I think.

It's where Lord Raban is visiting a plagued town, streets filled with corpses and so on. You will see what I mean...

[MdB]

Yeah, conrad materialized a head from the rats that carried the plague.

[Freija]

i just checked the entire vol 23 and 24 couldn't find it D:

[Segan]

Then it's somewhere else...check the volumes before Guts arrives in Albion.

Edit: I checked vol 17, it's there.

[Freija]

thanks mate <3

[Segan]

thanks mate <3

No big deal. :wink Was good for refreshing my memory anyway.

It's pretty twisted. While Griffith plays the hero, his Godmates (what weird word...) do anything to make things worse...

If people would know....would they even refuse Griffith? A sweet dream may still be better than harsh reality for some people.

[Kepa]

No big deal. :wink Was good for refreshing my memory anyway.

It's pretty twisted. While Griffith plays the hero, his Godmates (what weird word...) do anything to make things worse...

If people would know....would they even refuse Griffith? A sweet dream may still be better than harsh reality for some people.
it's not like people would believe a beautiful person like griffith to be the bringer of doom :oh (what are his goals anyway, to create an utopia or ruin the world?? Because the other god's hands seem to prefer the latter)

[Segan]

Griffith's original goal was to earn his own kingdom, and I believe, it's still the same today. Meaning, he wants to become the king of Midland.

The other God Hand probably are only here to control the world, doesn't really matter how they do (war, epidemies, permanent state of chaos and the like...).

Have you seen the unpublished chapter during the first eclipse? It's where the omnipotent God was revealed to be born from all malevolent feelings of all humans in the world.
Miura asked for that chapter not to be published, because he felt it was too much information to reveal at that point of time (I also heard another reason, that he left it out because it would limit his creativity in the later storytelling.) But even though it's not clear whether it's canon or not for the story, it gives you a good reference how his idea of the creation in Berserkworld looks like.

Edit: Unpuplished is the wrong expression. Miura didn't want it to be included in vol 13, so it must already have been released in the weekly magazine...

[Freija]

Griffith's original goal was to earn his own kingdom, and I believe, it's still the same today. Meaning, he wants to become the king of Midland.

The other God Hand probably are only here to control the world, doesn't really matter how they do (war, epidemies, permanent state of chaos and the like...).

Have you seen the unpublished chapter during the first eclipse? It's where the omnipotent God was revealed to be born from all malevolent feelings of all humans in the world.
Miura asked for that chapter not to be published, because he felt it was too much information to reveal at that point of time (I also heard another reason, that he left it out because it would limit his creativity in the later storytelling.) But even though it's not clear whether it's canon or not for the story, it gives you a good reference how his idea of the creation in Berserkworld looks like.

Edit: Unpuplished is the wrong expression. Miura didn't want it to be included in vol 13, so it must already have been released in the weekly magazine...
where can i find that unpublished chap ?

[Yakuza]

Griffith's original goal was to earn his own kingdom, and I believe, it's still the same today. Meaning, he wants to become the king of Midland.

The other God Hand probably are only here to control the world, doesn't really matter how they do (war, epidemies, permanent state of chaos and the like...).

Have you seen the unpublished chapter during the first eclipse? It's where the omnipotent God was revealed to be born from all malevolent feelings of all humans in the world.
Miura asked for that chapter not to be published, because he felt it was too much information to reveal at that point of time (I also heard another reason, that he left it out because it would limit his creativity in the later storytelling.) But even though it's not clear whether it's canon or not for the story, it gives you a good reference how his idea of the creation in Berserkworld looks like.

Edit: Unpuplished is the wrong expression. Miura didn't want it to be included in vol 13, so it must already have been released in the weekly magazine...


I want the unpublished chapter too!!!!!
can you send me???

[isanon]

Well, 5 godhand members = the apocalypse ? the 5 riders y'know ?

@above where was this plague mentioned :omg
the riders of the apocalypse are 4 not 5 :notrust

war, starvation, plague and death

[Segan]

Ask in the pimping thread, maybe they do have it.

[Kepa]

Ask in the pimping thread, maybe they do have it.
and feel free to share it with the rest of us if you happen to find it :P

[Segan]

and feel free to share it with the rest of us if you happen to find it :P

I wonder, if your post was a sign of fate...because I accidentally found a source for that chapter 0_o

http://www.evil-genius.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1268&highlight=lost+chapter

Have Fun!

[Freija]

i wish i could rep you again :3

[Segan]

i wish i could rep you again :3

Don't worry about that ^^

I was surprised by myself, that I would find it there. And I've got to wonder, if that chapter does hold meaning in the story, because I don't know the real reason, why it was left out at the release of vol 13.

[Freija]

well this just gave some answers actually, why Griffith seems to do good while the other godhands makes things bad.

Gutts could actually fight against godhands because humans created god, so humans should be able to fight them. etc

[Segan]

well this just gave some answers actually, why Griffith seems to do good while the other godhands makes things bad.

Gutts could actually fight against godhands because humans created god, so humans should be able to fight them. etc

Can a human fight millions of humans at once on his own?

Without any tricks, anomalies (let's say "bug-using" xD) Guts won't even be able to touch Griffith.

[Freija]

Can a human fight millions of humans at once on his own?

Without any tricks, anomalies (let's say "bug-using" xD) Guts won't even be able to touch Griffith.

well i didn't mean in that sense XDDDDDDDDD

[Segan]

well i didn't mean in that sense XDDDDDDDDD

But you can look it that way. We are talking about a power that holds the essence of humankind itself.

One million humans create a god. So therefore the God has the power of one million humans...

That's a huge powerhouse Guts wants to deal with :wink

[Freija]

exactly why i think this manga will keep on going for very long, and i think gutts will gather more allies, like hanafubuking or whatnot

[Segan]

I wonder if Ganishka will become Guts' ally. Guts refused, but at that time he had other things to worry about.
Depends on whether or not Ganishka survives the clash with Griffith, though...

And the Hanafubukku king is a good guess, but I would say, that one's going to stay neutral. Maybe more magicians?

[Freija]

XDDD wanna know what would be a nice twist... if Puck was hanafubukku XDDD i doubt that though, it'd make him overpowered and it'd make no sense

[Kepa]

I wonder, if your post was a sign of fate...because I accidentally found a source for that chapter 0_ocall it a sign of trust in your skills :P

thnx

[Segan]

XDDD wanna know what would be a nice twist... if Puck was hanafubukku XDDD i doubt that though, it'd make him overpowered and it'd make no sense
Who knows...it's not like Guts asked Puck to heal Casca's heart, so that makes any questions why Puck didn't so useless. It would be a nice plot twist, but I want to see something more dignified than Puck, to be honest ^^

call it a sign of trust in your skills :P

thnx

Erm, well, do you consider luck a skill....? xD

[Jotun]

Well, I don't think Miura would want Berserk to be his only project, so he has to finish it at some point of time...

But where did you get the info Miura would like to make a vampire manga?

A thread on this very forum :O I don't remember either. I think there was also a translated interview, not sure though

[Segan]

A thread on this very forum :O I don't remember either. I think there was also a translated interview, not sure though

Do you at least remember which part of the forum? Can't find it because the fucking search function doesn't do what I'm telling it to do... :/

[Jotun]

Do you at least remember which part of the forum? Can't find it because the fucking search function doesn't do what I'm telling it to do... :/

Honestly it might have been this thread or maybe the Pimping one. I know it was in a Berserk Discussion thread (Well almost 90% sure :( )

Oh and that chapter was pretty weird. It does give more insight on Gryffiths actions though. On the Evil Genius forum thread they say Miura ASKED for this to be added, but I guess it wasn't on time?

[Segan]

Wrong, Miura asked for letting chapter 83 out as the volume 13 got released.

Because either it revealed too much information about the story or he felt, it would limit his creativity in the later storytelling. I'm assuming, the first one is more accurate, since I read this reason more often than the latter.

[Jotun]

Wrong, Miura asked for letting chapter 83 out as the volume 13 got released.

Because either it revealed too much information about the story or he felt, it would limit his creativity in the later storytelling. I'm assuming, the first one is more accurate, since I read this reason more often than the latter.


Considering that I've had a few PMs about it and comes up often in all Berserk forums I've decided to put the Berserk "Lost Chapter" up for all to download just in case they didn't get it with their Hawks release.

Berserk: Lost Chapter aka Volume 13: Chapter 3.5 – God of the Abyss II

It will be awhile before DarkHorse gets to Volume 13, perhaps in a year? In the mean time, the link will stay up (or we will find another host for it) till such time as DH releases the Volume. Hopefully with this included.

The Holy Berserk FAQ wrote:
Miura added a chapter to The Eclipse, some time after the volume had been released. This is the chapter in which Griffith meets with The Idea of Evil. He added this chapter, because he wanted to elaborate on The World of Berserk. He felt it would help to further explain the story.

Considering I got that from the link you posted + the chapter, which should I believe? :O

[Wrinty]

can some one give me a donw load of 281 not torrent , down load

[big nate]

Check Back a couple of pages ^

[Segan]

can some one give me a donw load of 281 not torrent , down load

Make a request in the Berserk pimping thread...you can find it in the subforum "Manga Pimps", on the top of "Konoha Library - Floor 2".

@Jotun: I looked up at a german fansite about the lost chapter. It says that Miura wrote this chapter while the eclipse was still released in chapters. But then Miura asked for this chapter to let out when vol 13 was released, because he wrote elements he didn't want to have in his story.
German Fansite (http://www.berserkfan.cs-home.info/index.php?content=manga/lost_chapter)

It seems more logical to me than the assumption Miura added the chapter after the volume release (doesn't make sense to add a chapter that happens right in the middle of the event, when the event was finished. It's not even a flashback...)


I'm looking for more sources...

Edit: found another source: english page (http://forums.gotwoot.net/archive/index.php/t-7643-p-2.html)
It just confirms what I said before. Miura asked for letting it out before vol. 13 was released.

[big nate]

Also how do you think griffith will fight?


Maybe on horseback like he always has.



Or maybe his armor will grow wings and griffth will be like "omfg im femto, time to pwn"^_^.

[Zaru]

Also how do you think griffith will fight?


Maybe on horseback like he always has.



Or maybe his armor will grow wings and griffth will be like "omfg im femto, time to pwn"^_^.

Nothing's gonna touch him anyway. Freaking cannon shots exploded in front of him, if that can't touch him, what can?

[Jotun]

Nothing's gonna touch him anyway. Freaking cannon shots exploded in front of him, if that can't touch him, what can?

Ya he is pretty broken right now :O

@Segan: Ah ya that makes sense, if there is more than 1 source confirming its most likely true.

I was re-reading the manga and it seems I missed alot somehow by reading it online. Like when the fox/dog berserk rage thing in Gatts mind starts to materialize in his dreams, then the whole thing with Caska and also the connection with Skeleton Knight being the previous king of midland. I also missed when they went to the witchs manor up until the point where they are on the beach (I am so glad I decided to reread). This prolly has been talked about before, but what was the deal with Witches and having a Destined man of some sort? I mean thats how I read it.

[big nate]

Nothing's gonna touch him anyway. Freaking cannon shots exploded in front of him, if that can't touch him, what can?


Still a n action for "just because it's griffith" would be nice........



The fact that Griffith has really never been a fighter keeps getting to me :notrust

[Segan]

The fact that Griffith has really never been a fighter keeps getting to me :notrust

Pre-eclipse Griffith was the one to rip off Zodd's arm when Zodd had his first appearance. In fact, Griffith is an extremely good fighter, that's why he always came out of battles practically unscathed. But as a God Hand, he doesn't need to fight...what he wants is to rule.

@Jotun: Lemme see what you've read now ^^

- In which volume did the fox/dog (it's usually called Beast of Darkness) have it's very first appearance?

As for the question, what the deal with witches is: Griffith sent out two of his most powerful Apostles to kill Flora, which means he feared her. Which would mean witches do have the power to oppose Griffith (as it was later confirmed by Skull Knight).

[Freija]

Pre-eclipse Griffith was the one to rip off Zodd's arm when Zodd had his first appearance. In fact, Griffith is an extremely good fighter, that's why he always came out of battles practically unscathed. But as a God Hand, he doesn't need to fight...what he wants is to rule.
Actually, gutts took off his arm, griffith cut him

[Segan]

Actually, gutts took off his arm, griffith cut him

I'm gonna check it out...

Edit: Don't ever try to correct me...I've got all paperback volumes. It was Griffith who cut Zodd's arm off. Guts only wounded him at the neck (he already has been beaten before, so he was weakened). :P

It was towards the end of volume 5.

[Jotun]

Pre-eclipse Griffith was the one to rip off Zodd's arm when Zodd had his first appearance. In fact, Griffith is an extremely good fighter, that's why he always came out of battles practically unscathed. But as a God Hand, he doesn't need to fight...what he wants is to rule.

@Jotun: Lemme see what you've read now ^^

- In which volume did the fox/dog (it's usually called Beast of Darkness) have it's very first appearance?

As for the question, what the deal with witches is: Griffith sent out two of his most powerful Apostles to kill Flora, which means he feared her. Which would mean witches do have the power to oppose Griffith (as it was later confirmed by Skull Knight).

I will get to looking, but I think it popped up around the Elf Children arc.

So Flora and SK had been trying to take God Hand down for quite some time and the new witch (I always forget her name) was supposed to be back up eh?

I get the attack on the manor now xD

Also, it looked like the Berserker armor changed (Well the helmet at least) to how Gatts' inner beast looked. Before the helmet changed it looked like a Skeleton head, so do you think after losing your humanity by using the armor too much, you turn into your inner beast?

[isanon]

I'm gonna check it out...

Edit: Don't ever try to correct me...I've got all paperback volumes. It was Griffith who cut Zodd's arm off. Guts only wounded him at the neck (he already has been beaten before, so he was weakened). :P

It was towards the end of volume 5.
you are quite right vol 5 chapter 7

[Yakuza]

I'm gonna check it out...

Edit: Don't ever try to correct me...I've got all paperback volumes. It was Griffith who cut Zodd's arm off. Guts only wounded him at the neck (he already has been beaten before, so he was weakened). :P

It was towards the end of volume 5.

u berserker freak!!!!!!! lol >.o

[Segan]

I will get to looking, but I think it popped up around the Elf Children arc.

So Flora and SK had been trying to take God Hand down for quite some time and the new witch (I always forget her name) was supposed to be back up eh?

I get the attack on the manor now xD

Yeah, it was right after the Elf children arc.

I don't know about flora, but Skull Knight actually is trying to take down the God Hand.
Also, it looked like the Berserker armor changed (Well the helmet at least) to how Gatts' inner beast looked. Before the helmet changed it looked like a Skeleton head, so do you think after losing your humanity by using the armor too much, you turn into your inner beast?
Quite possible. The Armor Skull Knight wore a long time ago looked exactly like him before Guts wore it.

you are quite right vol 5 chapter 7
Of course I am. Because I got the real thing ^^

u berserker freak!!!!!!! lol >.o
I guess so...

[Zaru]

I guess so...

It's nothing bad, after all. I mean, having such an affection to a manga that you buy the expensive tankobons. Not every manga deserves it as much as Berserk
(although I prefer the bigger sized scanlations for sheer awesomeness and wallpaper quality)

[Segan]

It's nothing bad, after all. I mean, having such an affection to a manga that you buy the expensive tankobons. Not every manga deserves it as much as Berserk
(although I prefer the bigger sized scanlations for sheer awesomeness and wallpaper quality)

It may be expensive if you buy it once at all...but I only bought it once in every time, and when I caught up, the volumes appeared only every two months, and when the european edition caught up to the japanese edition, it wasn't expensive at all anymore. Just buy it twice in a year. ^^

[Zaru]

Oh I've spent 2000 $ on Manga already, Berserk isn't that much in comparison. But I have read it all already, that's why I'm hesitating to buy it.

[Segan]

Well, it's true, if you read it all online (or at PC), you tend to not buying the volumes, because you already read it all.
It's the same thing for me with OP and Naruto. I enjoy reading the scans, but I'm not gonna buy it. Simply not worth my money. But when I already had 27+ volumes before I read any Berserk scans for the very first time, then I won't stop buying it.

[Yakuza]

It's nothing bad, after all. I mean, having such an affection to a manga that you buy the expensive tankobons. Not every manga deserves it as much as Berserk
(although I prefer the bigger sized scanlations for sheer awesomeness and wallpaper quality)

yep... it isnt that bad....
ive been following for 10 years!!!
guess i am as much as a freak as he is!!!!

:amuse

[Jotun]

Yeah, it was right after the Elf children arc.

I don't know about flora, but Skull Knight actually is trying to take down the God Hand.

Quite possible. The Armor Skull Knight wore a long time ago looked exactly like him before Guts wore it.


Of course I am. Because I got the real thing ^^


I guess so...

Lmao I also forgot to mention the H4x sword SK carries o_o. I have had this feeling that SK was going to die after seeing that because he would be able to take out some big guns most likely. What I am thinking is, he dies somehow maybe trying to fight Gryffith or he takes out 1 or 2 of the Godhand. Just as he is about to die he somehow meets Gatts and tells him some stuff.

IMO Gatts won't lose his humanity to the armor, but instead with the help of his teenage witch they will find a new equilibrium. Either that or he becomes a total beast and is later saved by his friends. The whole thing about his body wearing out because of the armor makes it seem like its the road of no return now.

The latest chapters have basically shown that Gryffith is like right in front of his goal in taking Midland so what happens next? Maybe another witch hunt/Gatts hunt :O

[Segan]

Griffith is still too far away from achieving his goal. The Kushans are not defeated yet. Even if the army gets annihilated, Ganishka still holds Windham, the king city. And after his impressive introduction I doubt Miura would let Ganishka die in the current battle. There must be some backup plan or else he was a complete and utter idiot for believing to have a chance to stand against Griffith.

[Zaru]

or else he was a complete and utter idiot for believing to have a chance to stand against Griffith.

Well, that's how it is.

[Freija]

*agrees with above poster*

[Guts]

Thought i may aswell bless you with my presence in this thread.

[Freija]

Yes, i can feel your radiating glory filling me up with win inside

[Segan]

Well, that's how it is.
Yeah, sure...but if you are wrong, you have to put in your sig, that you are the one complete and utter idiot :grin

Thought i may aswell bless you with my presence in this thread.
Welcome, imposter ^^

Yes, i can feel your radiating glory filling me up with win inside

Hmm...put aside the imposter factor: Guts and glory...? o_0

[Guts]

Imposter? Nigga say what?!

[Freija]

Hmm...put aside the imposter factor: Guts and glory...? o_0

and here i thought i was making my sarcasm as clear as the day

[Guts]

and here i thought i was making my sarcasm as clear as the dayYou were being sarcastic? well i never!

[Segan]

and here i thought i was making my sarcasm as clear as the day

Not exactly...but I made it more clear.:)

[Jotun]

Lol I thought the Kushans were done with basically, but I guess I forgot about Windham :o.

What back up plan could work on Gryffith? xD

[Segan]

What back up plan could work on Gryffith? xD

Don't know (of course not, I'm not Miura!), but Ganishka pointed out that in this world, you have to pay with blood if you want to rob something.
Thinking about it, then this means, that even for the likes of Griffith, they won't possess anything just because they want. There are boundaries.
If Ganishka's got some sort of backup plan then it would probably take advantage around some sort of those boundaries.

[9TalesOfDestruction]

@9Tails: Don't bother with the lack of plot advancing...that's just the way things are. Miura is more of a type who builds up the plot little by little and then, suddenly with all the built-up stuff the story makes a huge advancement...
But if you want complain, then complain. I enjoy his drawings way too much that I would bother about the speed of plot advancing... :wink

@Zaru: Nope, apparently none of the God Hand except for Griffith ever went back to their human forms.
As for their occupations...well, one of them caused the plague, so we can guess, they like to bring misfortune into the world.

not really complaining, just worried the story will end up not finished.......

I know he basically does all the work himself and is all the detail takes forever to get down for each chapter, so i understand why it takes so long. but it makes me kinda wonder if it's really going to get done.

[big nate]

I demand too see the chapter were grif cut off zodd's arms.(download please)



Also i thought grif was weaker than the guy with the wind sword is he stronger, pre eclipse.(excuse me for not knwing the name.)

[Segan]

I demand too see the chapter were grif cut off zodd's arms.(download please)



Also i thought grif was weaker than the guy with the wind sword is he stronger, pre eclipse.(excuse me for not knwing the name.)

...

It's in volume 5. Demand it in the Berserk pimping thread...

@9Tails: well, Miura is still alive and in good health, and his drawings didn't suffer from lack of quality, so we can assume, he doesn't plan on un-finishing it...

[cheifrocker]

Can I get packs 15 and 16? Thnx.

[big nate]

sorry about that.....


Also just read v 13......it was ..........


Well griffith cant be my favourtie character any more

[Quon]

so the manga is still at it?

anyone direct me to a download link? I only saw the anime :(

[Jotun]

so the manga is still at it?

anyone direct me to a download link? I only saw the anime :(

http://www.narutocommunity.net/manga/files.php?cat=20&cmd=all&sort=&order=&page=2

Just register, has up to vol 31 I believe

Edit:

Well after finally rereading this came to me, at some point Gatts and Co are going to face Gryffith and his people right? o.O;

I don't see Gryffith's men turning on him so how the hell is that gonna work out :confused
xD

As long as Miura keeps drawing like he is and doesn't cop out on the story, I'm fine. I am really curious as to what is gonna happen next because after a few more chapters you know something big is going to be revealed/happen.

[Yakuza]

griffith is not interested in gats at the moment... he wants to take his own country.....
maybe zodd or grunbeld will try fightin guts.....

[Segan]

There won't be any fights involving Guts in the near future...

But I want to see Ganishka pull something awesome off his ass...he's too perfect a villain to be killed this early and in a possibly pathetic way.

[Jotun]

Well he would have to run away somehow to not be killed right? If his astral/energy form was defeated by Zattsu (Gatts Zodd Fused :O) I don't see how he can survive anything else.

If he does escape I don't see how it would help the plot since it would just delay things. He could have a secret army or something else though, hopefully

[Segan]

Well he would have to run away somehow to not be killed right? If his astral/energy form was defeated by Zattsu (Gatts Zodd Fused :O) I don't see how he can survive anything else.

If he does escape I don't see how it would help the plot since it would just delay things. He could have a secret army or something else though, hopefully

Maybe, but I hope Miura has planned something else...

I mean, Ganishka KNEW that the majority of the Apostles are fighting under Griffith's command and that Griffith is a fucking God Hand in human form. He KNEW that he has to face Griffith in the near future, if he wants to conquer Midland.
There's just no way he would play the ignorant tyrant and believe he would win this battle anyway.

[Jotun]

Maybe, but I hope Miura has planned something else...

I mean, Ganishka KNEW that the majority of the Apostles are fighting under Griffith's command and that Griffith is a fucking God Hand in human form. He KNEW that he has to face Griffith in the near future, if he wants to conquer Midland.
There's just no way he would play the ignorant tyrant and believe he would win this battle anyway.

He also thought no one would be capable of defeating his Lightning God form.

Other than having back up monsters/running away like a bitch, I don't see anything positive happening in his future.

[Freija]

damnit, i want elfheim already DDDDD:

[Jotun]

damnit, i want elfheim already DDDDD:

We won't see that maybe for another 2-4 months :(

[Freija]

i know that DDDDDDDDDDDDD:

[Segan]

He also thought no one would be capable of defeating his Lightning God form.
At least he didn't expect Guts and Zodd to be capable of that, yes. But without Schierke, they wouldn't have been able to...

Other than having back up monsters/running away like a bitch, I don't see anything positive happening in his future.

Well, if Griffith has monsters to back up his army, why shouldn't Ganishka do the same? Trying to conquer a country with an one-man-army would be silly, wouldn't it?

And when did he run away, by the way...? 0_o

[Jotun]

At least he didn't expect Guts and Zodd to be capable of that, yes. But without Schierke, they wouldn't have been able to...


Well, if Griffith has monsters to back up his army, why shouldn't Ganishka do the same? Trying to conquer a country with an one-man-army would be silly, wouldn't it?

And when did he run away, by the way...? 0_o

He most likely does have monsters, and you forgot that Hawk boy has a sort of witch also :o. I am saying that Ganishka's options are basically try to beat God and his army or run away and plot for a counter attack.

Edit: We joined the forum same month, different year xD

[big nate]

The manga has gone on alot....the story isnt even that long...It's just that he(mangakak) shows everything(from 2 chapter rape scenens too very intense battles

[Segan]

He most likely does have monsters, and you forgot that Hawk boy has a sort of witch also :o. I am saying that Ganishka's options are basically try to beat God and his army or run away and plot for a counter attack.
Now I agree. Either way, he needs to beat Griffith.

Edit: We joined the forum same month, different year xD
Looks like the wheelwork of destiny has begun to move, desperated fighter...

The manga has gone on alot....the story isnt even that long...It's just that he(mangakak) shows everything(from 2 chapter rape scenens too very intense battles

Not long? It involves Guts' whole life of 21 years and includes the history of Midland from over 1000 years.

So basically, it IS a long story...

[Spanish Hoffkage]

can someone explain to me that way of listing the episodes in volume 02. I'm confused. There's two times the same chapters

Volume 2
Revenge 2: Desire's Guardian Angels (2)
Revenge 3: Desire's Guardian Angels (2)
Revenge 4: Desire's Guardian Angels (3)
Revenge 5: Desire's Guardian Angels (3)

[Segan]

Who cares about listing...as long as the chapters' contents aren't the same.

Might be just a typing mistake...

[Wrinty]

Just thinking maybe Guts needs an archer to join his gruop. LOL Just a thought.

[Freija]

sounds like a plan :3

[Freija]

sounds like a plan :3

[jkingler]

Irvine kicks ass. He'd be hard to top, as far as archers go. Maybe another Judeau like character, though...

/loved Judeau

[Jotun]

I bet you that Kushan dude with his 2 body guards might join Guts xD (By himself I can maybe see)

[Segan]

He's called Silatt and is a Bakiraka (a Kushan clan, I assume) and he's got 4 bodyguards. Sometimes we only see 2 of them, don't know why.

[ifira]

they merged! =)

[Segan]

Yeah, then they un-merged in chapter 281... -_- (if they didn't appear there a few chapters ago already, of course)

[Yakuza]

He's called Silatt and is a Bakiraka (a Kushan clan, I assume) and he's got 4 bodyguards. Sometimes we only see 2 of them, don't know why.

Dude you know too much!!!!
take a break... i kno Berserk is GOD, but frking hell.....
:amuse

[Jotun]

Dude you know too much!!!!
take a break... i kno Berserk is GOD, but frking hell.....
:amuse

o.O I knew his name somewhat too. Segan has gotten more than a few posts telling him he knows too much xD I think its fine. Its the same with me and the Batman comics :O

[Ishin Shishi]

I'm completely new to Berserk. I watched the first episode of the anime some weeks back and it didn't really interest me, so I sort of left it for later. I finally resumed the series earlier today and I absolutely couldn't stop watching. So I pretty much went through the entire anime today. I'd like to say OMFG!!! I can't believe it kicked my ass so thoroughly. I can't believe how well paced and captivating it was. It was edge-of-the-seat all the way. Okay... I'm just spouting nonsense now... I'm too overwhelmed by how good it was.

Okay, anyway, the thing I wanted to ask was how different the anime was from the manga. Wikipedia said it was fairly different and I wanted to know more. I'm looking forward to reading this, and I'd be sort of disappointed if the manga was very different. So, could someone give me a quick explanation?

I'm sure I can find the answer somewhere on this thread, but I don't want to search for fear of spoilers. Thanks.

EDIT - Also, how much of the manga does the anime cover?

[Jotun]

It covers up to volume 14~ I think and yes its somewhat different. The beginning is only a tid bit of the actual introduction chapters and 2 important characters are not shown. Puck and Skeleton Knight. They also have a filler I think, where they storm a bridge check point and that Whale Knight guy is there. Its actually pretty good so I didn't notice it. If you plan on continuing the series I highly reccomend reading from the first chapter and onward. The way they rescue Griffith at the end and the eclipse are substantially different too. So if you don't want to read all of the same stuff you saw you should read from the start until it goes to when Guts beats the fat knight. Then go around vol10-12 and skim to read when Guts leaves the Hawks in the snow.

Oh ya the reason Guts doesn't like to be touched is also covered in the start

Edit: The Anime still did a good job, but I think they had the idea that they were not gonna continue animating the series so they decided to slightly change it so it wouldn't seem TOO unfinished.

[Wrinty]

LOL just reread the chapters with the orgy.


Berserk how I love you.

[Ishin Shishi]

@Jotun - Thanks a lot. I'll be reading it from chapter 1.

I thought the anime was great, but I thought the eclipse/supernatural stuff came way out of the blue. I mean, it seemed to be very different from what the focus was until that point. So it didn't feel very smooth... but then again, the characters were as surprised as I was to see it. Shit, it's so damn powerful... I can't wait to read the manga.

[Jotun]

@Jotun - Thanks a lot. I'll be reading it from chapter 1.

I thought the anime was great, but I thought the eclipse/supernatural stuff came way out of the blue. I mean, it seemed to be very different from what the focus was until that point. So it didn't feel very smooth... but then again, the characters were as surprised as I was to see it. Shit, it's so damn powerful... I can't wait to read the manga.

Np, and trust me you won't regret reading it. In the manga it seems better paced because there is another big fight beforehand.

Word of advice though, since the chapters are not released very often (If we are lucky we will get one every 1-2 months) try to read em slowly. Like every now and then.

Nevermind, fuck it. Just read it all in one day xD The Art makes you appreciate it so much more.

[Yakuza]

o.O I knew his name somewhat too. Segan has gotten more than a few posts telling him he knows too much xD I think its fine. Its the same with me and the Batman comics :O

hahaha
i guess everyone is like that with the thing we most like....

ive followed berserk for 10 yrs now..... and i dont know half of what he does!!! ¬¬
i have no problem with that, it just makes me feel stupid...hehehehe

[Wrinty]

This manga is great the art work is just amazing....Also too the guy just starting the manga..some of the scenes are more graphic in the manga....Fornexample the caska?femto rape scene.

[Ishin Shishi]

Word of advice though, since the chapters are not released very often (If we are lucky we will get one every 1-2 months) try to read em slowly. Like every now and then.
Haha... the concept of restraint is completely lost on me. If I like the manga, there's no way this can happen.

@Wrinty - The explicitness doesn't bother me at all. I was just concerned that the characters personalities would be way different in the manga.

[MdB]

Berserk is bi-weekly not monthly or longer.

[Jotun]

Berserk is bi-weekly not monthly or longer.

I am adding in the usual Miura break

[ÐÈPRÈŞŞÈÐ]

282 is out.Griffith makes it to Ganishka, and it looks as if he is going to challenge him. But, a translation is much needed. Also, I have a question: How is Ganishka going against the will of Griffith in the first place? Aren't all apostles supposed to follow him?

[big nate]

Raw would be nice.....spoiler tags as well

[ÐÈPRÈŞŞÈÐ]

I got it off mangahelpers.

[Jotun]

Wow, needs a trans bad. Either Griffith allows him to escape or hes fucked.

:omg

[Agmaster]

word is evil genius released a translation.

[Segan]

Awesome chapter. And from what I read in EG forums, it seems Ganishka didn't really have any sort of plan against Griffith, which disappoints me...

But on the other hand, I'm looking forward to see Griffith's power.

[Jotun]

Awesome chapter. And from what I read in EG forums, it seems Ganishka didn't really have any sort of plan against Griffith, which disappoints me...

But on the other hand, I'm looking forward to see Griffith's power.

Lol I knew it was gonna happen that way. Looks like Miura really wants to get the story moving. What do you think will happen when Griffith gets the Kingdom?

Something is going to make Guts n Co clash with the new Band of the Hawk

[Segan]

Lol I knew it was gonna happen that way. Looks like Miura really wants to get the story moving. What do you think will happen when Griffith gets the Kingdom?

Something is going to make Guts n Co clash with the new Band of the Hawk

Yes, yes, something is going to happen...

[Jotun]

You know I can see Caska not liking Guts anymore for some reason, if and when she gets "Cured" o.O
Dunno why. I hope we see more of Rickett too. I'm really excited about the next few chapters tho, they are going to set the stage for the rest of the year :O

[Zephos]

Just read the translation.
Ganishka is nervous as hell and almost seems like he's going to sorta...fall to his knees because of how overwhelimng Grif is. Than he sorta goes into a crazy rage about how theres "no way anyone can better him. Mr.No.1 landowner on the world".

[Yakuza]

Just read it...
oooooo sooooooo gooooooood...
Ghaniska is shitting himself....hehehe
I think he is going to flee......

[Zephos]

Flee?
No way.
It looks like hes about to recklessly charge Grif.

[Yakuza]

Flee?
No way.
It looks like hes about to recklessly charge Grif.

and maybe die????
it would be clever to flee.....

[Zephos]

Yes. It would.
"Recklessly".

[jkingler]

Holy shit, I love Griffith. XD

Great chapter. I am satisfied, yet starving and thirsty. :P

[Segan]

After reading the translation, it doesn't look that bad...Ganishka was nervous because it was the very first time to meet the Hawk, whose servant the Emperor is supposed to be.
But now it seems he's gonna fight it out with Griffith as the arrogant asshole he is *joy joy joy*

It's not like Ganishka would win anything by fleeing anyway.

[Moridin]

oh oh oh that was a good chapter =p

want more want more!

[Freija]

we'll finally see Griffith do some powerful shit ?

[Yakuza]

we'll finally see Griffith do some powerful shit ?

we hope so... we've been waiting for a loooooooong time for this to happen

[Segan]

Well, maybe it will be the same as back then at the eclipse, when Femto ripped off large parts of the bodies of those Apostles which were near Skull Knight and pressed them into a piece of meat of the size of a human fist just by closing his hand into a fist.

[Yakuza]

Well, maybe it will be the same as back then at the eclipse, when Femto ripped off large parts of the bodies of those Apostles which were near Skull Knight and pressed them into a piece of meat of the size of a human fist just by closing his hand into a fist.

hauhau.... hopefully will see something monstruous like that.... but it is a bit overated... Femto is freking powerful.... no fair!!!!

[Moridin]

Will be good to see just what he can do though...I have high hopes

[Yakuza]

Will be good to see just what he can do though...I have high hopes

you can bet on it!
everyone in this forum is dying to see what griffith can do....
Me, personaly, I wait for a proper fight between Gutz and Zodd....

[Miyata Prime]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/265213

Something I found looking through newgrounds, meh not too funny but something to see while we wait for more manga eps to come out >.>

[☠]

Don't mean to butt in on the conversation here, but does anyone know where I can find the complete versions of volumes 17 and 18? Preferably through direct download or IRC - BitTorrent is too slow for me.

I'm getting my volumes from #lurk and whoever scanlated volumes 17 and 18 didn't do a very good job (hopefully further volumes aren't this bad). Half the speech bubbles doesn't have any translations and it's really starting to piss me off. I'd get the volumes from The Hawks (they did a truly awesome job scanlating Koroshiya Ichi), but, as I mentioned, BitTorrent is really too slow for me.

I'm about halfway through volume 18 and I'm really enthralled with it. It was actually hard for me to stop reading long enough to type this desperate plea. :amuse

[Edit: Gah! Volume 20 is like this too!!]

[jkingler]

Have you tried mangatraders.com? They are awesome, and my personal fave for getting manga DDLs.

[☠]

Have you tried mangatraders.com? They are awesome, and my personal fave for getting manga DDLs.No. I haven't. But if they offer good scanlations of Berserk then I'll give it a shot. I'm really fed up with guessing what's happening in half the scenes here. :notrust

[Zephos]

No. I haven't. But if they offer good scanlations of Berserk then I'll give it a shot. I'm really fed up with guessing what's happening in half the scenes here. :notrust

http://z11.invisionfree.com/The_Evil_Empire/index.php?

Join. Make 10 legit posts.
Boom. Acess to all of Berserk for dl as well as nearly all manga ever.

[Segan]

Not like every manga I can download would interest me...

I reread the eclipse and I just remembered, how sad I was when Judeau died. The way he died and the glimpse of his own feelings towards Casca without being able to say it, made me cry the first time I saw that...

What about you? Were there any death moments that got to you?

[Moridin]

berserk 17

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2zmbi1

berserk 18

http://www.sendspace.com/file/edmmrm

berserk 20

http://www.sendspace.com/file/c6up9o

these are the ones I have and I don't remember ever having problems with them o_O

[Yakuza]

Not like every manga I can download would interest me...

I reread the eclipse and I just remembered, how sad I was when Judeau died. The way he died and the glimpse of his own feelings towards Casca without being able to say it, made me cry the first time I saw that...

What about you? Were there any death moments that got to you?

welll....
i think the whole series is very sad.....
when Judeau died i was like... NOOOOOOOOOOO :cry

but what really breaks me to bits is everytime Gutz looks at Casca (Post-Eclipse), he likes her but she doesn't respond to him because shes gonne goo-goo..... it's really sad....

but the one that made me the saddest was on Volume 3, after Gutz confrom Femto for the first time in the Manga......
his face knocked me down!!!
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Dheano/v3_ep3_p059.jpg

[Moridin]

welll....
i think the whole series is very sad.....
when Judeau died i was like... NOOOOOOOOOOO

thats the bit that has me almost tearing up everytime I read it, so very tragic T__T

[Segan]

I don't think that there's a character other than Judeau, whose death made me think Miura was soooo cruel...

But thanks god Rikkelt is still alive...I really like him.

[Jotun]

I don't think that there's a character other than Judeau, whose death made me think Miura was soooo cruel...

But thanks god Rikkelt is still alive...I really like him.

Ya, when I first watched the anime it makes it seem like he dies so I was happy to see he was alive in the manga.

And ya it was really fucked up how Judeau died, me and my buddy even said "Thats Fucked Up" out loud after seeing that xD

Too lazy to check, but is the latest scanlation out yet? I only flipped thru the raw xD

[Segan]

282 scan is out. Check mangahelpers.com

[Moridin]

its been out for days o_O

[jkingler]

Yes, it has. Thanks anyways, for offering the info in case we didn't know. :P

[Wrinty]

LOL oh please Judeau got an easy death considering what happened to the other people. He wasn't chewed up abd spit out nor did he have someting crawl in hos head and blow it up. He wasn't seduced by an apostle that was just trying to eat you up (lol classic corkus). He was whipped to death/ bled to death. Not tha bad of a way to go considering what happened to alot of other people.

[big nate]

well my saddest death/pain would be when griffith was telling themn to stay back......his last glimpse of humanity to save the hawks.....griffith really is a tragic hero............


But looks like he now getting his kingdome after he pwns this rain cloud..

Also i find it funny that grifith is still tied to guts emotionaly...the bonds he thought that took away his dream.....the one he thought he erased...


Also i think rickert should of joined griffith.....Even gut ssaid it even after a he has done he still cant hate griffith....IT would be nice

[Segan]

LOL oh please Judeau got an easy death considering what happened to the other people. He wasn't chewed up abd spit out nor did he have someting crawl in hos head and blow it up. He wasn't seduced by an apostle that was just trying to eat you up (lol classic corkus). He was whipped to death/ bled to death. Not tha bad of a way to go considering what happened to alot of other people.

You are right, but death by being eaten is more a matter of horror, while Judeau's death really made me sad. It felt so tragic, he had feelings for Casca but in his last moments before death he couldn't say it.
I don't feel like that when someone is simply massacred like the rest of the hawks, because this happened many times before.

[Jotun]

its been out for days o_O

MH links confuse me :(

I found it tho so thanks :thumbs

The wannabe Zues god is gonna get smashed >.<

Or Miura could twist it up abit and have Griffith struggle for whatever reason, THEN dominate.

I was thinking about what is going to happen with Caska and I played out a few scenarios in my head.

My favorite was Caska leaving Guts to go see Griffith. Dunno why, but you know something fucked up is going to occur there

[MdB]

If griffith still has his god hand powers, he would own ganishka pretty fast.

[Segan]

Unless his human body limits his powers. This would make sense, because no matter how much advanced his body is, it can't possibly contain the power of a god, but only a piece of it.

[Yakuza]

Unless his human body limits his powers.

:nod :nod :nod thats right..... it would be good for the series, because if Griffith had Femto powers as a human it would be to overated.... nobody would be able to challenge him (apart from Gutz !!! :nuts !!!)

[Moridin]

LOL oh please Judeau got an easy death considering what happened to the other people. He wasn't chewed up abd spit out nor did he have someting crawl in hos head and blow it up. He wasn't seduced by an apostle that was just trying to eat you up (lol classic corkus). He was whipped to death/ bled to death. Not tha bad of a way to go considering what happened to alot of other people.

its not the method he was killed with that makes it sad, certainly it wasn't the most brutal death the hawks suffered, but he died saving the woman he had loved but who he had always been unable to tell how he actually felt. Its pretty tragic his last inner monologue and the way he can't say what he really wants before he passes away T_T

[Segan]

By the way, have you ever wondered why a part of Guts' hair turned white? And why it happened in his right front?

There's a little theory spinning through my head:
Guts is blind in his right eye, but he can see out perfectly from his left one. When the beast took over him through the armor, you can see that those holes that are supposed to be eye windows (or whatever it's called) are kinda glowing.
Now, my theory is, that the image of those beast's eyes were reflected on Guts' head on the right front, because the beast couldn't see through Guts' right eye. That could explain, why there are no white hair on the left side and nowhere else on his head.

Can't explain it too well, but I think you do understand what I mean?

[Yakuza]

By the way, have you ever wondered why a part of Guts' hair turned white? And why it happened in his right front?

There's a little theory spinning through my head:
Guts is blind in his right eye, but he can see out perfectly from his left one. When the beast took over him through the armor, you can see that those holes that are supposed to be eye windows (or whatever it's called) are kinda glowing.
Now, my theory is, that the image of those beast's eyes were reflected on Guts' head on the right front, because the beast couldn't see through Guts' right eye. That could explain, why there are no white hair on the left side and nowhere else on his head.

Can't explain it too well, but I think you do understand what I mean?

i knw what you are trying to say, but i won't disagree or agree, because i am very lost!!! :cry , i have no idea why his hair turned white but your theory is quite interesting...:nod :nod

[Freija]

:nod :nod :nod thats right..... it would be good for the series, because if Griffith had Femto powers as a human it would be to overated.... nobody would be able to challenge him (apart from Gutz !!! :nuts !!!)

seems like some people forgot why he attacked Flora, because she alone poses more of a threat then an army of 10k people against him, he most definitely have his godhand powers

[Blaze of Glory]

LOL oh please Judeau got an easy death considering what happened to the other people. He wasn't chewed up abd spit out nor did he have someting crawl in hos head and blow it up. He wasn't seduced by an apostle that was just trying to eat you up (lol classic corkus). He was whipped to death/ bled to death. Not tha bad of a way to go considering what happened to alot of other people.

No he didn't. Now Godo, got an easy death he wasn't killed by a monster he got to die of old age and other crazy lunatics in the manga.

[Segan]

seems like some people forgot why he attacked Flora, because she alone poses more of a threat then an army of 10k people against him, he most definitely have his godhand powers

If Griffith really had his God Hand powers in his current form, then he had no reason to see Flora as a threat (I mean, fuck, God Hand are supposed to be beings whose powers are second only to God himself).
But if Flora really was a threat to Griffith then only for two reasons:
Either Flora was capable of successfully resisting his powers by using her own magic or she was capable of nullifying his powers in one or another way.

Which means, Griffith doesn't have the (supposedly) endless power of a God Hand as a human. His power is limited and therefore he's not invincible, at least not from a witch's view and especially from Skull Knight's.

[Zephos]

I really doubt theres any chance of Griffith even being in danger. Everything about this whole thing is an elaborate play to be the hero of the world ala Antichrist.

[Yakuza]

If Griffith really had his God Hand powers in his current form, then he had no reason to see Flora as a threat (I mean, fuck, God Hand are supposed to be beings whose powers are second only to God himself).
But if Flora really was a threat to Griffith then only for two reasons:
Either Flora was capable of successfully resisting his powers by using her own magic or she was capable of nullifying his powers in one or another way.

Which means, Griffith doesn't have the (supposedly) endless power of a God Hand as a human. His power is limited and therefore he's not invincible, at least not from a witch's view and especially from Skull Knight's.

thank you thank you thank you...
you saved me 10 minutes of typing! :wink

[☠]

http://z11.invisionfree.com/The_Evil_Empire/index.php?

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Boom. Acess to all of Berserk for dl as well as nearly all manga ever.Oh, cool. Thanks. I'll check it out. Don't like the 10 posts thing much, but I can live with it.

They even have my group's manhua up there too. :omgberserk 17

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2zmbi1

berserk 18

http://www.sendspace.com/file/edmmrm

berserk 20

http://www.sendspace.com/file/c6up9o

these are the ones I have and I don't remember ever having problems with them o_OThank you very much for uploading these for me, but it seems that you have the same version I have. :(

I've found a few translation texts online for some of those chapters, so hopefully I can use them to get a clearer picture of what's going on. smile-big

[Freija]

If Griffith really had his God Hand powers in his current form, then he had no reason to see Flora as a threat (I mean, fuck, God Hand are supposed to be beings whose powers are second only to God himself).
But if Flora really was a threat to Griffith then only for two reasons:
Either Flora was capable of successfully resisting his powers by using her own magic or she was capable of nullifying his powers in one or another way.

Which means, Griffith doesn't have the (supposedly) endless power of a God Hand as a human. His power is limited and therefore he's not invincible, at least not from a witch's view and especially from Skull Knight's.

I think it's more that he can actually be killed when he's in the human form, and he has no idea how magic affects him.

[Wrinty]

Theory

Griffith can only be kiled by those out of destinies grasp....

i.e Peope like gut's skull knight(how though) and that lady wizard.



But if you meet on eof these people and they affect your life(saving you ect.)
wouldnt you be out of destinies grasp?


Furthermore making people like skullKnight and guts a real threat if they were ever to affect a whole lot of people fate would become irrelevent and making griffith a mere human.

[Zephos]

I think it's more that he can actually be killed when he's in the human form, and he has no idea how magic affects him.

Quite frankly, I don't think this IS a human form. Remember, the mark reacted to him.

[Segan]

Quite frankly, I don't think this IS a human form. Remember, the mark reacted to him.

The stigma, you mean? Of course it reacted to Griffith, his spirit holds the essence of evil after all, despite his angel-like appearance. But nobody said he's a human, but he does have the body of a human.
But his body definitely has supernatural powers considering that this was once Guts' and Casca's child which transformed due to Femto's influence.

[Jotun]

By the way, have you ever wondered why a part of Guts' hair turned white? And why it happened in his right front?

There's a little theory spinning through my head:
Guts is blind in his right eye, but he can see out perfectly from his left one. When the beast took over him through the armor, you can see that those holes that are supposed to be eye windows (or whatever it's called) are kinda glowing.
Now, my theory is, that the image of those beast's eyes were reflected on Guts' head on the right front, because the beast couldn't see through Guts' right eye. That could explain, why there are no white hair on the left side and nowhere else on his head.

Can't explain it too well, but I think you do understand what I mean?

I always thought it had to do with what SK said to Guts on the beach. The armor drains his humanity, his sight,taste,touch, etc.

You can even tell Guts loses body mass after using the armor. So it could be a sign of the armor draining his life force away. I don't quite remember too well, but I could have sword on one of the panels showing the inner beast of guts while the armor was active, it only showed the left eye glowing. Idk tho its an alright theory you have there.

Griffith having a power limit in his body just heavily forshadows Guts kicking his ass imo.

[Segan]

Of course Guts lost body mass. He was in bed for over a month...and in a very bad shape by the way.

[Jotun]

Of course Guts lost body mass. He was in bed for over a month...and in a very bad shape by the way.

Well ya, I mean the armor even eats away at your body literally and symbolically xD

Where did it say he was out for a month though? o_O

[Segan]

Where did it say he was out for a month though? o_O

Volume 27, I think. It's where Guts and Co. are walking along the seaside. Schierke was telling him to rest and Guts responded he was in bed for over a month and already lost too much time (something like that).

[Jotun]

Volume 27, I think. It's where Guts and Co. are walking along the seaside. Schierke was telling him to rest and Guts responded he was in bed for over a month and already lost too much time (something like that).

Counter Attack! He says 7 days :O and I also found the page where it only shows the crazy slit eye thingy on his left eye.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4320/berserkv27c228p054copycg1.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2494/berserkv27c229p058copykv4.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5904/berserkv27c236p209copylf9.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7030/berserkv28c237p022copyuv2.jpg

Theres no way he lost the body mass from 7 days of rest. It was the Armor eating away at him, clinging to him so he could fight. He's gonna turn into a Skeleton-Dog-Demon xD Also notice the eye thingy is only shown on the left eye

[Wrinty]

lol Can Griffith take another ass whooping from Guts(How ever long that may be). I mean his pride would be so injured even with the permission of the gods Guts would still be in his way.

[Yakuza]

It was the Armor eating away at him, clinging to him so he could fight.

I believe that too......

Also notice the eye thingy is only shown on the left eye

why is his hair going white though???? does this has anything to do with it?

[Jotun]

I believe that too......



why is his hair going white though???? does this has anything to do with it?

You could connect the white hair to old age - as in his body is wearing out by using the armor. What SK told Guts was that hed start to lose sight touch tase etc so it would be basically the same as his body aging.

So it prolly does. I mean RIGHT after he used the armor he had it.

[Hell On Earth]

Is Berserk that good and how about the Anime?

[Segan]

Counter Attack! He says 7 days :O and I also found the page where it only shows the crazy slit eye thingy on his left eye.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4320/berserkv27c228p054copycg1.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2494/berserkv27c229p058copykv4.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5904/berserkv27c236p209copylf9.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7030/berserkv28c237p022copyuv2.jpg

Theres no way he lost the body mass from 7 days of rest. It was the Armor eating away at him, clinging to him so he could fight. He's gonna turn into a Skeleton-Dog-Demon xD Also notice the eye thingy is only shown on the left eye

I think I've got every reason to mistrust the scanlations when the meaning there differs from the tankobon I bought...and there it clearly says one month.

And it would be way too dangerous for him to rest only a week given the wounds Guts had after Schierke managed to take off the armor. God, his bones were pierced!
No, I don't acknowledge your proof, sorry...especially not when I got real volumes.

Is Berserk that good and how about the Anime?

Berserk is indeed that good, but I never saw the anime. It only covers the first 14 volumes and the story is finished then. That's reason enough for me not to bother with it.

[Yakuza]

Berserk is indeed that good, but I never saw the anime. It only covers the first 14 volumes and the story is finished then. That's reason enough for me not to bother with it.

hehehe... neither have I...

@Hell on Earth - Berserk is fucking amazing...... it has been running for over a decade and well, you must read to find out... (do not be put out by the first 3 volumes, it starts a little slow, but them.... oooooo... :nuts )

[Jotun]

I think I've got every reason to mistrust the scanlations when the meaning there differs from the tankobon I bought...and there it clearly says one month.

And it would be way too dangerous for him to rest only a week given the wounds Guts had after Schierke managed to take off the armor. God, his bones were pierced!
No, I don't acknowledge your proof, sorry...especially not when I got real volumes.



Berserk is indeed that good, but I never saw the anime. It only covers the first 14 volumes and the story is finished then. That's reason enough for me not to bother with it.

Really? They sometimes fix things in volumes so it could be true. Can you take a cam shot or something?

You forget they have 2 Elf/Fairies. Remember back when Guts took the 100 guys down he was pretty messed up, but he was up in the same day. You could say he took like 10x the amount of punishment and 7 days with a witch and 2 mystical beings with the ability to heal doesn't sound so farfetched.

[Segan]

And you forget that his astral body also had injuries from that encounter with Slann. As Schierke said, it's not something that will heal quickly.

After she took off the armor after several days (don't know how many exactly) his wounds reopened also several times when he was slippin in and out of consciousness caused by pain.
I don't think that 2 fairies would accelerate the healing process this much...

What do your scanlations say? I mean the pages right after the one you posted in the third spoiler before...

[Jotun]

And you forget that his astral body also had injuries from that encounter with Slann. As Schierke said, it's not something that will heal quickly.

After she took off the armor after several days (don't know how many exactly) his wounds reopened also several times when he was slippin in and out of consciousness caused by pain.
I don't think that 2 fairies would accelerate the healing process this much...

What do your scanlations say? I mean the pages right after the one you posted in the third spoiler before...

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6430/berserkv27c236p210copyrz4.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7862/berserkv27c236p211copysz2.jpg

Guts hasn't been known to take long periods of rest xD

The Fairies helped alot, he would be dead w/o them that much is certain imo.

[Miyata Prime]

To the person who asked about the anime. I like it considering how short it was. Anyway for manga readers if you havent seen the newest part here is a msn link http://groups.msn.com/BerserkManga/chapter280281.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6629

[Segan]

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6430/berserkv27c236p210copyrz4.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7862/berserkv27c236p211copysz2.jpg

Guts hasn't been known to take long periods of rest xD

The Fairies helped alot, he would be dead w/o them that much is certain imo.

Well, could be true...

If the official english release says the same line as the scanlation, I will consider it as true.

[MdB]

Holy shit.


http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/238/07v05eb4zt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ÐÈPRÈŞŞÈÐ]

Holy shit.

The next chapter is looking good.

[Segan]

It indeed looks cool. But Griffith doesn't seem to be impressed. But then again, I guess that's his usual reaction...

[Yakuza]

It indeed looks cool. But Griffith doesn't seem to be impressed. But then again, I guess that's his usual reaction...

If I had his powers I wouldn't be impressed either!!!! ^^ :P

[Segan]

If I had his powers I wouldn't be impressed either!!!! ^^ :P

Well, let's see to which extent he can use his (supposedly) god hand powers...

[Yakuza]

Well, let's see to which extent he can use his (supposedly) god hand powers...

Hopefully he won't have God's hand power because, i said it 10000 times, it will overpower him tooooooooooooooo much..... :P

[NarutoPimpGod]

Hopefully he won't have God's hand power because, i said it 10000 times, it will overpower him tooooooooooooooo much..... :P

true man....
Im a big Griffith fan (dont neg rep me for that)...hehehe
but I do think his powers are too much compared to any other character..... it isn't fare....

[Yakuza]

Im a big Griffith fan (dont neg rep me for that)...hehehe


hahah... noone is gonna neg rep you.... Griffith is amazing...what can we say!

[jkingler]

I enjoy Griffith as much as I do Guts, so I see nothing wrong with your comment. :nod

[Segan]

I would really enjoy Griffith if it wasn't for his neverending pseudo dignity attitude...

Femto was so much cooler...

[Hell On Earth]

Anyone know where I can get the anime?

[Segan]

I thought you can get it from the pimping thread....?

If not, then try to get them from emule or other filesharing programs. Or buy the original DVDs...

[Hell On Earth]

They have Pimping thread? I haven't seen it, if you can give me the link then I'll appreciate it.

[Segan]

Nah, I just realized there's only a manga pimping thread. You will have to search for other sources...

[MdB]

Even if you watch the anime, its recommended to read the manga from the beginning, because the anime is missing some important parts.

Maybe they have berserk on boxtorrents (http://www.boxtorrents.com/)

[Yakuza]

Even if you watch the anime, its recommended to read the manga from the beginning, because the anime is missing some important parts.

Maybe they have berserk on boxtorrents (http://www.boxtorrents.com/)

+ the manga is way better than the anime (i've seen 1 episode of the anime and gave up....)

[Jotun]

+ the manga is way better than the anime (i've seen 1 episode of the anime and gave up....)

Well if you count all the manga yes, but for what the Anime Covered, it was well done. It just makes me sad that there is like a 0.0001% chance that there will be any future Berserk animation. The VA's in English and Japanese were both so well done :/

I bought the DVD's. It's a series I highly respect so ya xD

I lent them to my ex tho and she never gave them back :/

As for Griffiths attitude, it's quite gay. Like Segan said, Femto was cooler :(

I think the next few chapters are gonna be very important. They are going to give us clues as to how Berserk is going to end most likely. We will see Griffith resolve his battle and then see what he does with his dream accomplished. Guts and Co. should be reaching the Elf place soon. Whatever happens after that will most likely connect with Griffith.

That being said, I can't wait :nod

[Freija]

long time since i visited this thread, that spoiler looks mighty awesome seems like there'll be a fight next chap <3

[Segan]

long time since i visited this thread, that spoiler looks mighty awesome seems like there'll be a fight next chap <3

There's hasn't even been a chapter without a fight since Vulitanis was invaded...

[KrazyKiba]

whatsn this beserk about? is it as intruiging and violent as battle royale? cuz if it is im definitely going to start reding it.

[Segan]

Go to the berserk pimping thread in the pimping forum and get the volumes 1-4. Read at least to the end of vol 4, then make your own judgement.

If it still doesn't appeal to you, then you are hopeless :grin

[Yakuza]

Go to the berserk pimping thread in the pimping forum and get the volumes 1-4. Read at least to the end of vol 4, then make your own judgement.

If it still doesn't appeal to you, then you need to see a psychiatrist :grin

there we go... now it's right

[Segan]

That's going a bit too far...

[Jotun]

Just curious but does anyone have a link to all the colored stuff Miura has done for Berserk? I only have the old Artbook which doesn't cover characters shown after the eclipse :O

[MdB]

Chapter 283 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/3hwhhu) is out.

Need a translation, right now its hard to say why ganishka is defeated. And it looks like they took another 1 month break.

[ÐÈPRÈŞŞÈÐ]

I have heard some summaries and it seems Griffith is letting Ganishka escape, and that the final battle will be decided at Wyndham.

[Freija]

looked to me like Griffith took away his apostle powers

[Segan]

Damnit you all...

You spoiled it all....

[Yakuza]

Hmmm....... I can't download it!!!!! :cry

[Haohmaru]

Evil Genius scanlation is out http://bt.evil-genius.us:60000/files/torrents/%5BEvil_Genius%5DBerserk_v32c283.rar.torrent

[Jotun]

Looks like Griffith and Naruto both have Wind affinity xD

[T4R0K]

Looks like Griffith and Naruto both have Wind affinity xD

Gwehehehehehe ! I thought the same when I saw the kanji !

I thought when reading "It smells of the tide... dattebayo."

[Segan]

I don't think that he's particularly good with wind control. But it seems he happens to use magic powers...

But for someone who can summon elemental power at will like Griffith to see a potential danger in Flora makes me wonder about how powerful she really was.

[Jotun]

I don't think that he's particularly good with wind control. But it seems he happens to use magic powers...

But for someone who can summon elemental power at will like Griffith to see a potential danger in Flora makes me wonder about how powerful she really was.

That is what I was thinking. It must have to do with some sort of sealing stuff she can do or her Elemental stuff is just that much better than Griffiths. What's his name was amazed that her fire was so strong.

[Segan]

Grunbeld, you mean...

Yes, her fire couldn't be controlled by him, but that has nothing to say. After all, we can be pretty sure, that Grunbeld may have an affinity to fire, but he's just too much of a small fry compared to Griffith...

Do we agree? ^^

But I feel sorry for Schierke. She's certainly a talented mage, but there's just not enough time to expand her magical abilities that she could be of much use for Guts in a combat against Griffith, who got them practically on the silver table.

[Jotun]

Grunbeld, you mean...

Yes, her fire couldn't be controlled by him, but that has nothing to say. After all, we can be pretty sure, that Grunbeld may have an affinity to fire, but he's just too much of a small fry compared to Griffith...

Do we agree? ^^

But I feel sorry for Schierke. She's certainly a talented mage, but there's just not enough time to expand her magical abilities that she could be of much use for Guts in a combat against Griffith, who got them practically on the silver table.

Unless she somehow finds a Spirit companion who has every elemental power or something xD

[Segan]

Well, she already summoned the four guardian angels (or whatever they were) of fire, wind, water and earth twice.

But it looks like it only works as a defensive spell, though. She needs something offensive...

[Zephos]

She did. Remember the Fire wheel thing?

[Segan]

Yes, she did, but this spirit was attached to Vulitanis. She needs something more constant, something she has access to whenever and wherever she wants.

[John Connor]

well the one magical discipline her master warned about above all else was darkness

if we follow manga cliches then she will develop skills with darkness because when a character is warned not to do something they will definitely do it

I assume that with the current state of the world dark energy is everywhere and this might also be the reason Griffith is hunting down all powerful witches and Mages

[Yakuza]

Why didn't Griffith kill Ganishka right there????

[Vodrake]

I think Griffith spared Ganishka and his army to help in his ploy to take over Midland. If he'd wiped them out there and then, the threat to the country would be completely gone. The Midlanders would be grateful to the Hawks, probably reinstate them as an army of the Midlands and all, but that would be it. Griffith would still have a fair bit of work ahead of him to secure the Crown.

Griffith spared Ganishka so as to provide a constant threat to Midland, one only he could protect them from until they are completely reliant on Griffith and The Hawks for protection. Would probably make taking over the Country a hell of a lot easier.

Just my take on it. But then again, I'm not a genius military tactitian...>_<

[MdB]

well the one magical discipline her master warned about above all else was darkness

if we follow manga cliches then she will develop skills with darkness because when a character is warned not to do something they will definitely do it

I assume that with the current state of the world dark energy is everywhere and this might also be the reason Griffith is hunting down all powerful witches and Mages

You forgot the most important part, this isn't a shounen manga.

[ElementalShinobi]

Is this manga any good of a read?

[Segan]

And besides, if Griffith says that he cannot reach him with his sword, then he probably really can't because of Ganishka's mist shape.
And I tend to think that I was right with the assumption that Griffith isn't all that omnipotent anymore because he possesses a human body now, which limits the god hand powers.

But that's not really a reason, though. The tactical aspect Vodrake mentioned before probably weighs much heavier as a reason to spare Ganishka.

[Yakuza]

Is this manga any good of a read?

Excellent read.......
but you have to read at least to the end of Volume 4 to find out wether or not you like it.... :wink

[Segan]

No, it's not worth any read. Berserk is one of the crappiest manga ever made...

[/sarcasm off]


Seriously, what's up with all these people posting in a thread that is dedicated to a manga just to ask if said manga is worth reading? Just read it and make your own judgement...

[Jotun]

No, it's not worth any read. Berserk is one of the crappiest manga ever made...

[/sarcasm off]


Seriously, what's up with all these people posting in a thread that is dedicated to a manga just to ask if said manga is worth reading? Just read it and make your own judgement...

Lol seriously, like we are posting because we think its a shitty read....

I think at the Elf place, Sheirke or w/e is gonna get a spirit thing that she can always call upon. Either that or she will be stuck buffing Guts with spells xD

[cl0ud_]

i just finished watching the anime and i must say it was amazing and kept my eyes glued to the screen. now, i want to read the manga and sees what happens after all that went on in ep.25. anyone happen to know which chapter that is?

[Zephos]

i just finished watching the anime and i must say it was amazing and kept my eyes glued to the screen. now, i want to read the manga and sees what happens after all that went on in ep.25. anyone happen to know which chapter that is?

Its chapter 1.



As you might guess I'm telling you to read the manga from the start. Many important little details were left out, be they character developments, characters, plot points, extra detail....
Trust me on this.

[John Connor]

i just finished watching the anime and i must say it was amazing and kept my eyes glued to the screen. now, i want to read the manga and sees what happens after all that went on in ep.25. anyone happen to know which chapter that is?
Zephos is 100% right

if you try reading where the anime left off you will break the story. I watched the anime first just like you and I can guarantee you will not be bored if you start at chapter 1

[Segan]

Read it from the beginning. And don't you dare to get bored from this...

The art may be not appealing in the first volumes, but it will be much better once the Golden Age arc starts (Guts' past). And I can't get friendy with the anime anyway...the art is just too much like any other mainstream animes...

[Jotun]

Read it from the beginning. And don't you dare to get bored from this...

The art may be not appealing in the first volumes, but it will be much better once the Golden Age arc starts (Guts' past). And I can't get friendy with the anime anyway...the art is just too much like any other mainstream animes...

Lol aww, the anime budget would have had to been increased way too much to even try to emulate Miura's style.

And yes, it is blasphemy to get bored from reading this Manga :mad

[cl0ud_]

i've heard other people say this as well. hope i can catch up to the current chapters quick...

[Segan]

Dont rush it...

[John Connor]

I read Berserk in 4 days

I knew I would regret it but I couldn't stop myself...

[Khamzul]

^Same here. But only up to volume 29 (where my torrent took me). Had some minor mixups in chapters (in some volumes the chapters where in wrong order) - resulting in that Griffiths capture and bansihment was spoiled half a volume to early.

But apart from that Volume 3 - 31 was awesome.

[AmitG1984]

well hello to all i've been watching the Berserk anime but never got the chance to readthe manga!does anyone know a free site!and i hate Griffith!
P.S:thanks for replying !

[Segan]

Go to the Manga Pimps subforum: http://forums.narutofan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162

There's a Berserk manga pimping thread. Request it there.

[AmitG1984]

Thanks segan!

[Yakuza]

I read berserker in 10 years!
hehehehe

[Taleran]

question to all the Berserk fans here


would you read the manga if it were like this

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/Random%20Stuff/berskf67.jpg


Zodd: Wanderer prepare yourself Shun! Goku! Satsu!


I don't know about you but i'd be pretty epic

[Neji]

lol, looks pretty cool, but i might not enjoy it as much as i do the original format

[escamoh]

lmao thats cool, it fits so perfectly :lmao

[jkingler]

Seen it, but it's still hilariously perfect. XD

[Segan]

Wow, that's perfect.

I prefer the original version (nothing tops Guts swinging the Dragonslayer - SSJ1-4 are nothing against that).
But I would also love the "Street Fighter" version to read. But how do you make the fights then? If you take his sword away, that would make a pretty weird combat style... ^^

[Yakuza]

Where did you get it from???
It looks awsome... hahaha
I rather the Original tho.... lol :nod

[gabha]

Finally finished reading through the series yesterday. By the end I was half expecting to see some goat fucking, given that every other disturbing thing was put in there as well.

The series looks like it still has a long way to go, so it's not too late for that :P.

[Yakuza]

It's been going for 15 years...... so I guess there is another 15 years to come :nod

[Segan]

Depends on what Miura's plans are regarding the plot.