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Keollyn

02-08-2007, 08:03 PM

For a compiled list of the teams, click here (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=6922985&postcount=184)

First Round, Match 3.

Standard match rules

PIS off
CIS on (In Character)
Bloodlust off. Albeit, characters are out to win.
No ring outs
Knock out or fatality

Team -Afro Samurai-
Shiki Tonho (Tsukihime)
Kenshiro (Hokuto No Ken)
Hisoka (Hunter x Hunter)
Jasdebi (D-Grayman)
Sagara In Al Prime (Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid)

vs

Team Pai
Mew (Pokemon)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts II)
Johnny Sorrow (DC)
Mimic (Marvel)
Pre-Crisis Captain Comet (DC)

Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow

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Kenshiro vs Mimic

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Hisoka vs Sora

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Jasdebi vs Mew

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Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre Crisis Captain Comet

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I'll keep the rules and regulations simple.

Bold the name of the person you know is the winner and leave a commentary (optional).
If you can't think of a winner, mainly because you don't know enough of the person, you can wait till the owners of the team provide info and feats, and/or their argument, before you supply yours.
This brings us to the team owners. They can cast a vote also, but if they do so, they need to bring firm reason as to why they think so. Unlike normal voters, they are subject to biased voting.
With that said, no bribing the members. If you're caught doing so, your team is automatically out.

martryn

02-08-2007, 08:35 PM

Kuya

02-08-2007, 08:37 PM

oh i'm fighting....... i'll be back after the gym and provide info on my characters.

@ Martyn ... Mimic - has the powers of Iceman, Beast, Marvel Girl, Wolverine (Regeneration), Angel, Cyclops, and Professor X's Telepathy

martryn

02-08-2007, 08:39 PM

@ Martyn ... Mimic - has the powers of Iceman, Beast, Marvel Girl, Wolverine (Regeneration), Angel, Cyclops, and Professor X's Telepathy

Wolverine? From what I read that was only speculated if he still had that permanently. Still, I already knew all that. I don't know to what extent the powers are and how good Ken is.

Kuya

02-09-2007, 02:20 AM

Team Hyphy

Mew
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/ecesperante/Mew.jpg
-The First Pokemon
- Psychic type Pokemon
- Contains the DNA of all Pokemon
- Capable of using ALL known Pokemon Techniques. That’s a lot of moves to use.
- Can transfer into ANY Pokemon at will
- Capable of instant teleportation
- Capable of summoning big pink bubbles of psychic energy which acts as both a defensive shield and a forceful attack
- Also possesses the power of invisibility

Captain Comet
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/ecesperante/Comet_shanedavis.jpg
Captain Comet possesses a vast array of physical and mental powers.
- Super-strength
- Invulnerability
- -Increased stamina
- Telepathy
- Clairvoyance
- Mind control
- Telekinesis
- Telekinetic flight
- Electrokinesis
- Pyrokinesis/Cryokinesis
- Magnetokinesis
Other forms of miscellaneous mental feats.
• 'Sense of Strength'
Allows Captain Comet to know a target's powers, weaknesses and skills, or to gauge how difficult a task will be.
Known Abilities: Captain Comet is a prodigy with the ability to master any skill upon his first attempt. He has a photographic memory, and possesses a comprehensive intellect well in advance of that of the average human. He is also a highly skilled hand-to-hand combatant.
Strength Level: Captain Comet possesses superhuman strength. The full limit of his strength levels are unknown.

Kuya

02-09-2007, 02:25 AM

Johnny Sorrow
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/ecesperante/JohnnySorrow.jpg
Johnny Sorrow's face is so hideous that anyone who views it die, though there are exceptions to the rule:
• Spirits and the undead are unaffected as they aren't actually alive.
• Exposure caused Captain Atom to quantum leap forward in time.
• Shazam was turned to stone.
• Doctor Mid-Nite nearly died of shock, but survived due to the unusual nature of his artificially-restored and enhanced vision.
- Sorrow is intangible, but can become solid and must in order to remove his mask.
- Once solid, he cannot become intangible again until the mask is replaced.
- He has also shown the ability to teleport himself and others as well as levitate.
- It seems Sorrow has some sort of power to manipulate energy since he was able to bend energy attacks coming at him together causing an explosion.

Mimic
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/ecesperante/Mimic.jpg
Permanently posseses the powers of the original 5 X-Men
- Angel
- Beast
- Cyclops
- Marvel Girl
- Ice Man
He has some of Professor X’s telepathic powers and also possesses Wolverine’s regeneration.

Sora
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/ecesperante/Sora.jpg
I believe most of the members here are aware of Sora's abilities but here's really quick and incomplete info on him. There's so much more he's capable of...
- Posseses a magical sword known as the Keyblade which he uses for both offense and defense
- He can change the Keyblade at his will to different Keyblade’s which including increasing it’s strength, granting him greater defense or strength, endowing it with magical powers, and much much more
- He has magical powers which include fire, water, lightning, magnetism, gravity, wind, manipulation. He also has the ability to STOP TIME.
- He has strong summons which include Genie.
- Excellent swordsman and has various powerful combo attacks
- Fought 1000 heartless on his own and won.

Kuya

02-09-2007, 02:31 AM

My team is called Team Hyphy, not Team Pai

Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow

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shows his self, instant death.

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Kenshiro vs Mimic

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use flight and water/ice manipulation as an advantage. if gets damaged he'll use wolverine's regeneration. he can try and mindf*ck him.

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Hisoka vs Sora

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master form should be enough with the magical powers. if all else fails he'll summon Genie to take care of the job.

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Jasdebi vs Mew

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Psychic powers and invisibility ftw. Force field should protect most attacks thrown at Mew if Mew is detected.

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Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre Crisis Captain Comet

i'm sorry, this is a curbstomp.

martryn

02-09-2007, 02:31 AM

Captain Comet looks on par with someone like Superman. Isn't Superman upper tier? If not, who is?

Bolt Crank

02-09-2007, 02:50 AM

I don't know to what extent the powers are and how good Ken is.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=147288
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=73875

martryn

02-09-2007, 02:55 AM

Editing post.

Cthulhu-versailles

02-09-2007, 07:01 AM

Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow
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I don't think Shiki will be immune to Sorrow's powers. I don't see any reason why Sorrow would lose otherwise.
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Kenshiro vs Mimic
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I guess Kenshiro wins. I hardly think Mimic has Xavier's telepathy from what I've read about him, and Wolverine's regeneration is sorta... maybe-ish. Ken won't have trouble with the other powers.
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Hisoka vs Sora
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Sora is a Disney character and wouldn't really go for a kill. Hisoka... no problems as such.
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Jasdebi vs Mew
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Oh, hell, I don't know. I don't know jack about Pokemon. I'll vote Mew because from Wikipedia it seems as if he's practically unkillable.
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Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre Crisis Captain Comet
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This seems the most obvious choice.
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This post is in response to above, but with my views on the winner inputted as well.

Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow
Well, I assume you know Shiki's abilities since you're commenting on the fight, but the thing is Shiki wouldn't need to be immune. For those not entirely clear on his power – Shiki has the "Mystic Eyes of Death Perception", which enables him to destroy anything just by cutting its death "lines" with a sharp object, and also to "pierce its dot", which destroys its existence completely. Moreover, the Shiki Tohno I am using is the strongest version of the Tsukihime multi-endings. This means Shiki is in assassin mode, Aka Shiki Nanaya Prime, and has all his assassin instincts in check and has the best use of his Death eyes. His assassin instincts equates to superhuman speed, agility, and strength. Example of speed: he can move fast enough to run on walls, disappear from the vision of humans anime style, and jump onto roofs. Example of strength: he can stand and fight evenly, knife to knife, with a being that was able to cause multiple glass windows to completely shatter from the power of its attack hitting someone nearby.

On the fight, I assume Jonny Sorrow begins in his intangible form. In character, Jonny has a tendency to taunt his opponents a bit, like in Jsa against Alan. Moreover, whilst intangible and battling against a kid with a knife, he would assuredly perceive himself immune to damage… if he didn’t otherwise. Thus Shiki will be able to attack him and either cut his lines or takes the more certain root of stabbing his dot and making him fade from existence. If and when Sorrow materializes though, then it's likely Jonny gets his line and or dot hit before he can take off his mask.

Kenshiro vs Mimic

I assume mimic is neither immortal like wolverine or can use Iceman prime level power. Moreover, I assume he can’t use Xavier telepathy as proficiently as the real deal if at all.
Regardless, even if Mimic could Kenshiro utilizes Ki based attacks, has unlocked the original Hokuto, and has his Muso Tensai attack. The latter allows him to move as nothing( that is the exact pharsing and purpose of the attack). While the former are also other elements which make it at least questionable as to whether telepathy would work on Kenshiro. Finally, and this is the determing factor, Kenshiro can simply speed blitz Mimic and hit pressure points, cut/rip him apart, paralizes his entire body, atomize him, or uses many other attacks to kill him. Then there also the issue of Kenshiro just making a Ki shield around himself. Moreover, aside from Pressure point hitting and various branch techniques, Kenshiro also has very high strength, speed, and durability. All of which I could elaborate on, if needed.

Hisoka vs Sora

Hisoka Nen baptizes Sora… and just in case attacks during said baptizing to completely ensure death.

Jasdebi Vs Mew

From what I remember of the Pokemon movie, off which does not indicate Mew can mind rape anyone, Mew abilities really aren’t out of Jasdebi’s level. In fact, I’d consider this a great match.

Jasdebi abilty
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/883/page360361sr9.png

Jasdebi= when Jasdero and Debito Merge. http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6682/10313iw4.png
Hence, any attack previously shown by the two when separate could be performed by Jasdebi.

Attacks Jasdebi showed in the last 8-10 chapters of D.Grayman:
most have specific names, but i put the function.

-Opened a minature black-hole like thing
-Encased someone in a shield/bubble like prison
- Extended and shaped hair to use as a piercing weapon and sneering weapon
-Created a Zombie looking blob compilation that eats creatures
-fired multiple freezing attacks
-fired multiple disappearing attacks
-fired multiple explosive attacks
-fired multiple extreme heat attacks
-fired shots that suffocate
-fired multiple piercing type attacks
- fired some liquid, attack is known as Purple Bomb, that makes the enemy unable to see them… save special circumstances
-fired raw energy blast and or pressure by raising hand
- used a force field
-created a being, (Black Earl) who had super human strength, was intangible, and could fire small black orbs that seem to electrocute.
-created star like things when touching someone that exude extreme crushing force
-took direct powerful fire seal damage and laughed
-created an extremely durable physical resistant body and was for a time effortlessly taking hits from Aleistar. Aleistar strength level,
http://groups.msn.com/D-Grey-ManManga/chapter32.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=671
http://groups.msn.com/D-Grey-ManManga/chapter32.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=672

Jasdebi is also fast as shown here
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2301/page09ui2.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5095/page10kl6.jpg

Jasdebi is also fast because it/he/she was keeping up and at times out pacing Aleistar. Swordancer made a huge post on D.Grayman.
Look under Arystar for Aleistar speed and general D.Grayman speed.
( My scan has Arystar as Aleistar, so that's the name dif.)
Swordancer link http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=163736

All the above on Jasdebi is to say that until more feats of Mew are actually posted and or placed within some kind of context in this thread, which in reality the movie did for us and thus that is mew, Jasdebi’s versatile shown abilities and possible derived abilities from seem a good match to Mew. Hence, I'd say Jasdebi is capable of toppling Mew. However, I'm not certain and think Mew has an equal or better shot. Thus the double bold.

Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre CrisisCaptain Comet ?????
I know nothing about Captain Comet and have never even heard of him, but looking at that bio he seems overpowered and top tier… but whatever. Anyway, without knowing anything else save the bio posted, I’d say he looks like he’d take Sagara fairly easily. However, I would still need to know his exact level of durability and what type of none physical attacks he has. there is also the issue of whether Comet uses "mind rape" in character or not, as opposed to it just being some bio power he's got. Finally, since the tournament is limited to mach 5 movement speed, that would not be something Sagara in Arbalest couldn’t contend with. In that case, Sagara should be able to get off a Lamba drive shot/shield. Lamba drive in the case of prime means that Sagara lamba drive “blockades” and or attacks are pretty overpowered. EX: They can vaporize a mech and missile just like that.

Wikipedia arcticle on Lamba Drive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_Driver

~Shin~

02-09-2007, 09:05 AM

^I pretty much agree with what he said

Keollyn

02-09-2007, 09:46 AM

Captain Comet looks on par with someone like Superman. Isn't Superman upper tier? If not, who is?

Probably, but when I read the wiki article, it gave no indication that he was (he just seem to have a vast array of abilities).

Since Kuya selected him, he obviously knows him. I should inquirer from him some actual feats.

martryn

02-09-2007, 01:31 PM

So do characters know the rules and abilities of each other? And would Shiki go for an instant kill instead of listening to Sorrow mock him?

Birkin

02-09-2007, 02:04 PM

I thought Mew was kinda high tier :/

Bolt Crank

02-09-2007, 04:16 PM

Kuya

02-09-2007, 10:36 PM

Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow

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Shiki wins.

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Kenshiro vs Mimic

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Kenshiro wins.

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Hisoka vs Sora

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Hisoka wins.

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Jasdebi vs Mew

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No comment.

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Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre Crisis Captain Comet

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Comet wins.

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what's ur reason for them winning?
The only member on my team i see losing is Mimic against Kenshiro, and that's if Mimic doesn't take flight and spam ice attacks from the air or try and mess with Kenshiro's mind.

Now with the Johnny Sorrow fight. 1 Look at him, and ur dead. When he shows his true self you die instantly. Don't know how Shiki will deal with it especially since Sorrow can also be intangible and invisible.

With the Sora fight. He can STOP time. And if worst comes to worst, he'll summon Genie to deal with Hisoka.

With the Mew fight. Well this is pretty even. I know Mew lacks the agressiveness in this fight, but since Mew IS out to win Mew would play around a little and be invisible a lot of the time and attack with the countless Pokemon attacks. Also it will be extremely to get past the force field.

I'll try to find Captain Comet scans. I chose him because he was one of the very first DC characters i would read about because my uncle gave me some of his comics. And he is no where near PC Supes strength and definately not as fast. I see him half light speed, i don't remember him being at a speed where he could circle the world twice in under a second, he relies in his teleportation a lot. I see him fitting in the upper mid tier.

Endless Mike

02-11-2007, 08:34 AM

Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow

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He takes off his mask and that's that.

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Kenshiro vs Mimic

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Too close to call, if you ask me.

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Hisoka vs Sora

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Speedblitz

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Jasdebi vs Mew

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Mew can just fly and bombard her with powerful attacks from the air.

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Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre Crisis Captain Comet

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Pretty obvious.

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Cthulhu-versailles

02-11-2007, 11:56 AM

So do characters know the rules and abilities of each other? And would Shiki go for an instant kill instead of listening to Sorrow mock him?

I assume they have no knowledge of each other, but that this is an acknowledge fight. As it stands then, regular Shiki might listen to a taunt, however even that is suspect because the nature of Sorrow; that is, the fact that he's intagiable at first and doesn't have a entirely regular human look. In fact, Sorrow's look and ability would cause Shiki to see him as a Dead Apostle and thereby basically not hesitate. That is Regular Shiki. I however am using Shiki when he has all assasin instincts in check. Edit: Not sure if that last statement was clear. Basically, with full assasin instincts in check he will not hesitate and in fact delights in killing...

If you don't mind reading a bunch of stuff, and seeing him in full assasin mode, I can upload chapter 12 -14... where Shiki goes into the mode I'm talking about against Nero Chaos.
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Shiki Tonho vs Johnny Sorrow

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He takes off his mask and that's that.

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Kenshiro vs Mimic

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Too close to call, if you ask me.

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Hisoka vs Sora

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Speedblitz

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Jasdebi vs Mew

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Mew can just fly and bombard her with powerful attacks from the air.

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Sagara In Al Prime vs Pre Crisis Captain Comet

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Pretty obvious.

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Shiki can nail sorrow regardless of whether he is intangible or not. Death eyes means Shiki can kill things regardless of external factors or magic. While intangible, or even if he were a ghost, Sorrow is within some state of existence and thereby not an inanimate object in the strict sense. Hence, Shiki can also see his dot/dots and hit him so he is removed from existence.
Shiki is also fast enough to get too Sorrow and tag him. Moreover, Sorrow tends to taunt his opponent while intangible, and also while being intangible would likely overestimate his suppose untouchability. Lastly, Sorrow first needs to materialize to remove his mask.

And what powerful attacks from the air is Mew going to Bombard Jasdebi with that he/she cannot in someway counter or avoid??? Also, Jasdebi basically jumped/move a good hundred feet up to get to Aleistar. (might even have been more...

~Shin~

02-11-2007, 11:59 AM

And what powerful attacks from the air is Mew going to Bombard Jasdebi with that he/she cannot in someway counter or avoid??? Also, Jasdebi basically jumped/move a good hundred feet up to get to Aleistar. (might even have been more...

Mew can just use telekenisis. Jasdebi doesn't really stand a chance against mew

Cthulhu-versailles

02-11-2007, 12:14 PM

Mew can just use telekenisis. Jasdebi doesn't really stand a chance against mew

Where has Mew shown telekenesis applied with force vastly superior to the raw strength Aliestar has shown,( say at least two times superior) ? because Jasdebi wasn't taking any damage from Aleistar shots after she thought up reinforcing his/her body. Also, Jasdebi can can fire pressure/ force also. Plus, there is still the black hole like thing that he/she create, which sucked aleistar in.

---Also for those that are interested, I quickly upload the Tsukihime chaps. The fight against Nero is way better in the manga and shows far more then the anime. IMO. I uploaded from where Arcuied starts trying to fight him...

Here's Chapter 11 too
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hh81dn

Chapter 12
http://www.sendspace.com/file/onp1dp

Chapter 13
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nyg8e4

Chapter 14
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bqlayy

Keollyn

02-11-2007, 06:38 PM

If no more is to said here, the fight ends with the victory going to:

Kuya with 14 votes.

Afro Samurai finishes with 10 votes.

Kuya

02-11-2007, 07:58 PM

GG Afro Samurai. Ur team was one of the few i wanted to avoid early on the tournament. Respect.