View Full Version : Kain and Raziel (LoK: Defiance) vs Hulk and Juggernaut
EXhack
02-07-2007, 06:48 PM
Battlefield is a series of floating platforms in the aether that descend infinitely.
No restrictions. But I really don't see any of these chars. working in a proper team.
Endless Mike
02-07-2007, 08:07 PM
From what I've heard, Raziel can destroy souls or something, but Hulk essentially has multiple souls.....
Enclave
02-07-2007, 08:21 PM
Legacy of Kain series spoilers
Hulk doesn't have multiple souls just multiple personalities many many multiple personalities (makes mind raping his neigh impossible).
Anyways, Kain and Raziel near the end of Defiance likely work as a team very well. See, Raziel gets over his hatred of Kain and Kain never had a hatred of Raziel.
Anyways, Kain and Raziel are the only ones I see as being able to win this fight. Why you might ask? Hulk CAN be killed even if it is exceedingly difficult to pull off and I would think getting his soul eaten by Raziel could be enough to do it.
This really ends up coming down to Jugs. He is quite immortal, the problem though comes from the fact that the same applies to Kain and Raziel. Now I don't think that the Blood Reaver would really do anything significant against Jugs (though there is the possibility that it could bypass Jugs forcefield due to how powerful of a magical artifact it is). However if it becomes the Soul Reaver by absorbing Raziel I do think it could kill Jugs (that is assuming it can get past his forcefield).
In conclusion. If the Soul Reaver could get past Jugs forcefield then Kain and Raziel win with Raziel being "killed" by being absorbed into the Blood Reaver turning it into the Soul Reaver. If the Soul Reaver cannot get past the forcefield then it is an eternal draw as Jugs has no abilities which should be able to kill Kain or Raziel.
Endless Mike
02-07-2007, 08:43 PM
Hulk does have multiple souls, he's had his soul drawn out of his body on multiple occasions and kept fighting with his other ones.
Enclave
02-08-2007, 07:45 AM
Hrm, I have not read that happening before, however I'm not the biggest Hulk fan so I'll take your word for it.
Either way though, eventually he will be out of souls. He is up against 2 immortals. In fact he is the only one there fighting who isn't pretty much immortal.
Vynjira
02-08-2007, 06:46 PM
No restrictions. But I really don't see any of these chars. working in a proper team.Hulk and Juggernaut have worked together before.
Thanatos
02-08-2007, 08:07 PM
No restrictions. But I really don't see any of these chars. working in a proper team.
Does that matter? You're the thread creator, so you could always say they put their differences aside over a spot of tea if you were so inclined. :amuse
The Anti-Existence
02-08-2007, 08:32 PM
This is a stalemate. Kain and Raziel won't be able to permanently stop Juggs.
Enclave
02-08-2007, 10:30 PM
This is a stalemate. Kain and Raziel won't be able to permanently stop Juggs.
It MIGHT be possible for the Soul Reaver to get through his forcefield and suck his soul which should kill him. Of course it might not be able to get through his forcefield so ya.
EXhack
02-09-2007, 08:57 AM
By the way. Raziel and Kain have slow falldown But if Juggs or Hulk get knocked too far from the platforms, they fall eternally into the aether. Auto RO.
The Anti-Existence
02-09-2007, 09:33 AM
So, basically one of the areas of the Eternal Prison iN BO2.
Enclave
02-09-2007, 09:41 AM
By the way. Raziel and Kain have slow falldown But if Juggs or Hulk get knocked too far from the platforms, they fall eternally into the aether. Auto RO.
In that case Kain and Raziel have it in the bag even if the Soul Reaver cannot get past Jugs forcefield. Not only does Kain have slow fall he also has flight in bat form.
Zarutai Oda
02-12-2007, 03:16 PM
Raziel and Kain win this. It's true that the Hulk has many variations of himself stuck in his body but all that means is that Raziel is gonna have to go back for seconds. Kain can take care of Juggernaught cause Juggs isn't lke the Hulk, he can't regenerate. All Kain has to do is stab Juggs in the chest and the SoulReaver does the rest. It sucks the blood out of the Juggernaught and Jugg's dies from loss of blood. In my opinion, Kain and Raziel wins.
Vynjira
02-12-2007, 04:19 PM
In that case Kain and Raziel have it in the bag even if the Soul Reaver cannot get past Jugs forcefield. Not only does Kain have slow fall he also has flight in bat form.Juggernaut has been thrown into space and Walked back. Also whats to say the mystical energies powering Juggernaut won't protect him from having his soul ripped out?
Thanatos
02-12-2007, 04:28 PM
Also whats to say the mystical energies powering Juggernaut won't protect him from having his soul ripped out?
What's to say they will?
Not taking a stance either way, just asking a question.
Vynjira
02-12-2007, 04:42 PM
What's to say they will?
Not taking a stance either way, just asking a question.The Immortality Shield granted to him by being Cyttorak's Avatar.
Thanatos
02-12-2007, 04:49 PM
The Immortality Shield granted to him by being Cyttorak's Avatar.
All I needed to hear.
Enclave
02-12-2007, 09:34 PM
The Immortality Shield granted to him by being Cyttorak's Avatar.
If the enchantment in the reaver is stronger than Cyttorak though it could very well suck out Jugs soul and with the Soul Reaver Kain was able to whoop Elder Gods ass. The potential for Kain to be able to suck Jugs soul is there.
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