View Full Version : The Sparda brothers Vs Team Urameshi.
The Nameless Pharaoh
02-07-2007, 09:15 AM
Sparda brothers get everything except quicksilver.
Who wins ?.
Birkin
02-07-2007, 09:24 AM
I don't recall Urameshi :<
DoomBringer
02-07-2007, 09:29 AM
Everything? Sparda sword Dante would win this. Vergil will aid him in making it easy.
Dante
02-07-2007, 09:38 AM
Info on Team Urameshi please
The Nameless Pharaoh
02-07-2007, 09:57 AM
Team Urameshi:-
1- Yusuke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uramesi_Y%C3%BBsuke
2- Kurama: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurama_%28YuYu_Hakusho%29
3- Hiei: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiei_%28YuYu_Hakusho%29
4- Kuwabara: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazuma_Kuwabara
If Dante and Vergil are too much, team Urameshi can get help from Genkai.
Gunners
02-07-2007, 10:53 AM
Team Urameshi would take this match up in my opinion, if the characters are at the series end anyway. Hiei and Yuusuke would smoke them. Adding Kurama and Kuwabara is a little bit unfair.
Comic Book Guy
02-07-2007, 11:12 AM
Sparda brothers get everything except quicksilver.
Who wins ?.
Dante still has the Time Bangle and the Chrono Heart, if you gave them everything.
Gunners
02-07-2007, 11:14 AM
Chrono heart and time band?
Comic Book Guy
02-07-2007, 11:19 AM
Chrono Heart is from DMC2. Same effect as Quicksilver.
Time Bangle stops time completely, except against the DMC bosses.
Purgatory
02-07-2007, 12:06 PM
I think the Sparda brothers could give Urameshi a challenge. Do they also have DT, Super DT, Spards & Nelo Angelo DT and all of their weapons from every game?
Adjective-Noun
02-07-2007, 02:52 PM
I think the Sparda brothers could give Urameshi a challenge. Do they also have DT, Super DT, Spards & Nelo Angelo DT and all of their weapons from every game?
For your answer...
Sparda brothers get everything except quicksilver.
The Sparda brothers take this, they're just insanely powerful. They get stabbed through the chest and laugh at it, for God's sake. And thats in base form! All they'd have to do is Devil Trigger and mop the floor with those spikey haired wannabes.
CRAZY!!
(Note: I actually like YYH, so this is not a jab at that show)
Superrazien
02-07-2007, 03:08 PM
Um I think Hiei alone would take this.
Purgatory
02-07-2007, 03:12 PM
Um I think Hiei alone would take this.
I don't know. He may have met his match (Vergil). They both accel in using swords, both have a demon form (Hiei can still turn into that ugly fucker, right?), and can Hiei instantaneously move at regular battle speed?
Superrazien
02-07-2007, 04:05 PM
I don't know. He may have met his match (Vergil). They both accel in using swords, both have a demon form (Hiei can still turn into that ugly fucker, right?), and can Hiei instantaneously move at regular battle speed?
Yes Hiei can pretty much move in a instant in battle. His fight with Bui is a good example, and when he was a C Class demon he had his feet frozen and sliced that ice dude 16 times in a blink of an eye.
Birkin
02-07-2007, 04:20 PM
Well Vergil and Dante fought so fast the rain around them stopped moving until they slammed their swords together and every rain drop fell down and it created a field
Purgatory
02-07-2007, 05:13 PM
Yes Hiei can pretty much move in a instant in battle. His fight with Bui is a good example, and when he was a C Class demon he had his feet frozen and sliced that ice dude 16 times in a blink of an eye.
How good is his reaction time?
Superrazien
02-07-2007, 05:29 PM
How good is his reaction time?
His reaction time is great, when he was high A or low S class he charged at this guy, Cut his own arm off, dodge the guys attack and cut the top of his head off in a blink of an eye.
Yagami-Kun
02-09-2007, 04:35 AM
I have only played DMC 3 so I don't know how powerful the Sparda brothers are. But can't Yusuke blow the planet up at the end of YYH ?.
Giorno Giovanna
02-09-2007, 09:25 AM
I have only played DMC 3 so I don't know how powerful the Sparda brothers are. But can't Yusuke blow the planet up at the end of YYH ?.
You should analyze the cutscenes in DMC3 to see how powerful they are and also, Yusuke cannot blow the planet up since he never did it.
Superrazien
02-09-2007, 03:02 PM
You should analyze the cutscenes in DMC3 to see how powerful they are and also, Yusuke cannot blow the planet up since he never did it.
Well he is an S class and its said a High A or S Class can destory the world. Plus I rememver Genkai saying he could. Also I dont get your reasoning, Goku never blew up a planet are you trying to say he can't?
Adjective-Noun
02-09-2007, 03:23 PM
Just because somebody CAN blow up the planet, doesn't mean that they will or even if its smart to use that kind of power. Which means that even if Urameshi and company can theoretically destroy the planet in a violent flash of power doesn't mean that they will use that kind of power. After all, they'd die in space.
With that in mind they would have to throw less than planet-busting attacks at the Sparda brothers, who have shown to be able to take just about any blunt force trauma or magically induced bolt of power without taking serious damage. The only hope of killing them would be to try and blitz one of them and hope you finish him in one strike; lest he get up a second later, throw you a cheesy one liner and Devil Trigger on your ass. And thats assuming that he doesn't Air-Trick out of the way or use Royal Guard.
Keollyn
02-09-2007, 03:30 PM
S-Class demons can't destroy the world anyway. Hell, an S-Class being couldn't even destroy a cave...
Superrazien
02-09-2007, 03:32 PM
Just because somebody CAN blow up the planet, doesn't mean that they will or even if its smart to use that kind of power. Which means that even if Urameshi and company can theoretically destroy the planet in a violent flash of power doesn't mean that they will use that kind of power. After all, they'd die in space.
With that in mind they would have to throw less than planet-busting attacks at the Sparda brothers, who have shown to be able to take just about any blunt force trauma or magically induced bolt of power without taking serious damage. The only hope of killing them would be to try and blitz one of them and hope you finish him in one strike; lest he get up a second later, throw you a cheesy one liner and Devil Trigger on your ass. And thats assuming that he doesn't Air-Trick out of the way or use Royal Guard.
Well your right they wouldnt use or need planet busting attacks. Lets see I think Kuwabara is the only one who couldnt take them on his own, Hiei can speed blitz them or use the Dragon, Yusuke would just over power them, Kurama would out smart them or use the Sining tree.
Adjective-Noun
02-09-2007, 03:53 PM
You do know what Dante and Virgil are capable of, right?
In case I need to remind you, Air-Trick is a perfect dodge, it makes no difference when or where you use it. When they use Air-Trick, they warp and appear right next to the enemy poised to attack.
Royal Guard is a style that gives them a defensive stance that properly used can and will block anything, as well as a technique that converts damage into stamina.
Those are the game mechanics that allow them to win this fight. I know it's not fair to the YYH crew, but Capcom just makes their characters scary invulnerable, and I haven't even included the items that actually can make them invincible! Devil May Cry for the win.
Arishem
02-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Dante with the Sparda transformation is powerful enough to become the king of hell. He and Vergil also have extremely fast reaction times. Vergil is fast enough to cut multiple bullets in the air in half, balance them on his blade, and launch them at Dante as if they were fired by a gun by swinging his sword. They also fight so fast that when they look like they're fighting in real time the rain falling around them is in super slow motion. I know the YYH team is very powerful too, so this should be a good fight. Since the DMC team is outnumbered, why not throw in Sparda as well?
Giorno Giovanna
02-09-2007, 05:56 PM
Just because somebody CAN blow up the planet, doesn't mean that they will or even if its smart to use that kind of power. Which means that even if Urameshi and company can theoretically destroy the planet in a violent flash of power doesn't mean that they will use that kind of power. After all, they'd die in space..
I want proof that they can. If they do not show it, then they can't, and that's that. You are try to assume an ability of a character without any definite proof and that's not going to work. Until I see proof that they can one shot the planet, they can't.
Remember, evidence overrides assumptions and opinions anyday, anytime, anywhere.
Superrazien
02-09-2007, 06:02 PM
You do know what Dante and Virgil are capable of, right?
In case I need to remind you, Air-Trick is a perfect dodge, it makes no difference when or where you use it. When they use Air-Trick, they warp and appear right next to the enemy poised to attack.
Royal Guard is a style that gives them a defensive stance that properly used can and will block anything, as well as a technique that converts damage into stamina.
Those are the game mechanics that allow them to win this fight. I know it's not fair to the YYH crew, but Capcom just makes their characters scary invulnerable, and I haven't even included the items that actually can make them invincible! Devil May Cry for the win.
Yeah but Dante has not used that one ones like Hiei and Yusuke who far out beat him in speed. Air-Trick is just super speed and the only reason its so fast is because Dante does it to enimes he is more powerful than. Royal Guard has not blocked everything therefore its a dumb assumtion to think it could Block a Spirit Gun or Dragon of the Darkness Flame.
Comic Book Guy
02-09-2007, 06:09 PM
Actually, if the OP states that everything is given to Dante and Vergil save Quicksilver, Dante at least has the upper hand in speed due to the Chrono Heart or the Time Bangle.
To my knowledge in the game, Royal Guard does block everything showcased when defended in the last instant. However, if I'm wrong, then feel free to correct me.
Adjective-Noun
02-10-2007, 06:25 PM
To my knowledge in the game, Royal Guard does block everything showcased when defended in the last instant. However, if I'm wrong, then feel free to correct me.
This is true. It also builds up for a release technique that returns the damage absorbed. You could actually kill bosses very quickly with appropriate use of Royal Guard.
Air-Trick is just super speed and the only reason its so fast is because Dante does it to enemies he is more powerful than
Air Trick triggers an invincible state for it's entire duration and I argue it is teleportation. However should you bring evidence in the form of pictures, I shall be inclined to back down on that.
Of course they could always use an "Untouchable" and just become invincible and Devil triggered at the same time...
Dante
02-10-2007, 06:59 PM
If the Sparda brothers are given all but Quicksilver, this will be easy and boring.
Dante goes SuperDT, completely stops time with the Time Bangle and takes his sweet time reducing team Urameshi to ashes :amuse
Countach
02-10-2007, 07:07 PM
dragon of the darkness flame for the win
Superrazien
02-10-2007, 08:29 PM
dragon of the darkness flame for the win
exactly to many people under estimating it. Dante and Virgal do not have a form of Spirit or Sacred energy which are the only things shown to resist it. People also underestimate that Kurama could just planet the death seed in them or use the Sinning Tree.
Adjective-Noun
02-10-2007, 08:45 PM
Dante and Virgal do not have a form of Spirit or Sacred energy which are the only things shown to resist it.
False! They do posses spiritual powers; Dante often uses it to supercharge his bullets and sword and his Devil Trigger form has it practically dripping off of him and Vergil uses it to create his Judgment Slashes and to summon his long range magical swords. On top of that, Royal Guard should block it anyway.
Dante has shown to be capable of defeating nigh omnipotent enemies (without being nigh omnipotent himself, which is something that defies Battledoem logic) so I think he could manage to beat them by himself in a long, hard fight. With Vergil around it makes it easier on him, so I say they take it by virtue of extreme SSSTYLISH-ness.
Darklyre
02-10-2007, 09:52 PM
No one has as of yet addressed the Time Bangle issue.
Superrazien
02-10-2007, 11:24 PM
False! They do posses spiritual powers; Dante often uses it to supercharge his bullets and sword and his Devil Trigger form has it practically dripping off of him and Vergil uses it to create his Judgment Slashes and to summon his long range magical swords. On top of that, Royal Guard should block it anyway.
Dante has shown to be capable of defeating nigh omnipotent enemies (without being nigh omnipotent himself, which is something that defies Battledoem logic) so I think he could manage to beat them by himself in a long, hard fight. With Vergil around it makes it easier on him, so I say they take it by virtue of extreme SSSTYLISH-ness.
Um can Dante or Vergil Surroned themselves in this energy creating a shield or barrier? I havent seen proof that they could. Royal Guard wont block DOTDF , going by your logic saying it blocks everything, then I can just say the DOTDF can not be stoped. Dante being the whole team urimeshi by himself? He wouldnt get passed Hiei or Kurama. Vergil does give them a slight better shot, but Hiei and Kurama alone could take Dante and Vergil adding Yusuke is over kill.
Dante
02-10-2007, 11:52 PM
No one has as of yet addressed the Time Bangle issue.
Because it means utter loss for their fav characters, it is understable :amuse
Um can Dante or Vergil Surroned themselves in this energy creating a shield or barrier? I havent seen proof that they could. Royal Guard wont block DOTDF , going by your logic saying it blocks everything, then I can just say the DOTDF can not be stoped. Dante being the whole team urimeshi by himself? He wouldnt get passed Hiei or Kurama. Vergil does give them a slight better shot, but Hiei and Kurama alone could take Dante and Vergil adding Yusuke is over kill.
Well, I can give you example of Vergil putting on a unexpugnable barrier surrounding himself and as said before Dante has Royal Guard wich is supposed to be able to stop anything.
I seriously think you don't know what the Urameshi team is going after, the thread starter said everything but quicksilver, wich consecutively gives Dante a superform with infinite DT, Dante alone with infintite Sparda DT is a true monster let alone having Vergil at his side.
As I said before this isn't even a fight, Dante goes superDT uses the time bangle and completely stops time indenitely, as long as he want, now tell me what is team Urameshi going to do about that?
Comic Book Guy
02-11-2007, 12:26 AM
Um can Dante or Vergil Surroned themselves in this energy creating a shield or barrier? I havent seen proof that they could.
Actually, Vergil can. Mission 20.
As for Dante, Ultimate produces a shield that restores his health when attacked. Royal Guard can block from any direction in-game, if I recall correctly.
Royal Guard wont block DOTDF , going by your logic saying it blocks everything, then I can just say the DOTDF can not be stoped. Dante being the whole team urimeshi by himself? He wouldnt get passed Hiei or Kurama. Vergil does give them a slight better shot, but Hiei and Kurama alone could take Dante and Vergil adding Yusuke is over kill.
Well, depends on what handicaps Dante and Vergil operate under. Giving everything but Quicksilver is redundant, seeing as to how Chrono Heart produces the same effects and Time Bangle does one better.
Superrazien
02-11-2007, 01:53 AM
Well, I can give you example of Vergil putting on a unexpugnable barrier surrounding himself and as said before Dante has Royal Guard wich is supposed to be able to stop anything.
I seriously think you don't know what the Urameshi team is going after, the thread starter said everything but quicksilver, wich consecutively gives Dante a superform with infinite DT, Dante alone with infintite Sparda DT is a true monster let alone having Vergil at his side.
As I said before this isn't even a fight, Dante goes superDT uses the time bangle and completely stops time indenitely, as long as he want, now tell me what is team Urameshi going to do about that?
Please give an example and I hope what ever it blocked was something high in power along the DOTDF. DOTDF is said to be one of the ultimate techniqes, it never stops chaseing its opponent, if your hit by it its pretty much instant death and theirs no way to stop it unless you have Buis Aura, Sensuis Sacred Energy, or your just a beast like Mokuro, so Royal Guard being able to block anything my be true but thats only true to the DMC universe, are you trying to tell me Dantes Royal Guard can block a Kamehameha wave?
Well I first off dont see Dante having the chance to go DT, by then Hiei would of sliced him up, or Kurama would plant a death seed. Also even if he is in DT the Sinning Tree would just pwn him. Dantes only shot is stoping time, but I dont see the fight dragging to that point.
Endless Mike
02-11-2007, 09:11 AM
S-Class demons can't destroy the world anyway. Hell, an S-Class being couldn't even destroy a cave...
That's bullshit and you know it. Sensui wasn't trying to destroy the cave, he merely started powering up (and it shook the cave, and the entire ground including the huge city near it, as well as one of his minor blasts tearing a huge hole in the hill nearby and blasting through the city). Then Sensui stated that he couldn't power up any more because the world couldn't handle it, so he took the rest of the fight to the Makai.
The Nameless Pharaoh
02-11-2007, 09:27 AM
^ I agree.
Everyone seems to underestimate Team Urameshi. Question: Is Hiei fast enough to kill Dante or Vergil before Time Bangle could be activated ?. If not, then I'll ban any method of time control.
Keollyn
02-11-2007, 09:43 AM
That's bullshit and you know it. Sensui wasn't trying to destroy the cave, he merely started powering up (and it shook the cave, and the entire ground including the huge city near it, as well as one of his minor blasts tearing a huge hole in the hill nearby and blasting through the city). Then Sensui stated that he couldn't power up any more because the world couldn't handle it, so he took the rest of the fight to the Makai.
He failed to destroy a cave with his "planet-destroying" powerup... I fail to see what you're labeling as "bullshit"
So we're going to acknowledge that the cave is more durable than a planet?
Endless Mike
02-11-2007, 10:43 AM
He failed to destroy a cave with his "planet-destroying" powerup... I fail to see what you're labeling as "bullshit"
So we're going to acknowledge that the cave is more durable than a planet?
Are you even paying attention? He didn't power up to that point in the cave, he was just starting to power up to a lower level, he never reached his full power until after he entered the Makai.
Superrazien
02-11-2007, 12:11 PM
Are you even paying attention? He didn't power up to that point in the cave, he was just starting to power up to a lower level, he never reached his full power until after he entered the Makai.
Dam I forgot all about that, great example.
Psysalis
02-11-2007, 03:02 PM
Which saga is being use for Team Urameshi?
Giorno Giovanna
02-11-2007, 05:05 PM
Until I see the scan of a S-class demon blowing up the planet (whether in real life or as an example of their power), they can't. It's like that for every claim and that should not change for this one.
Superrazien
02-11-2007, 05:39 PM
Until I see the scan of a S-class demon blowing up the planet (whether in real life or as an example of their power), they can't. It's like that for every claim and that should not change for this one.
Ok so by your logic Goku cannot blow up planet because he never did.
Keollyn
02-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Are you even paying attention? He didn't power up to that point in the cave, he was just starting to power up to a lower level, he never reached his full power until after he entered the Makai.
And I fail to see where it once stated (by the many people who up and down claim "An S class demon can destroy the planet by powering up") that they need to power up completely in order for that to happen.
So the totality of this powering-up can destroy a planet... why is it strange that a portion (even 1%) can destroy a cave... heck, cause a cave-in...
Are you that dense?
Keollyn
02-11-2007, 06:05 PM
Ok so by your logic Goku cannot blow up planet because he never did.
Here's where your comparison fails.
Someone comparatively to Goku's power HAS proven to destroy a planet. No S class Yu Yu Hakusho character has proven to destroy a planet. Therefore, what SwordDancer said is true.
Superrazien
02-11-2007, 06:34 PM
Here's where your comparison fails.
Someone comparatively to Goku's power HAS proven to destroy a planet. No S class Yu Yu Hakusho character has proven to destroy a planet. Therefore, what SwordDancer said is true.
Ok one how would they prove it, last I checked they dont go off into space and blow stuff up, and why would they blow up the planet they are on? Second its been stated by people with pretty high credibily in the YYH universe, I dont think they would make a comparison if it wasnt true. But fine if you can argue that then I can just say Royal Guard cant block DOTDF because it was never proven to be able to.
Birkin
02-11-2007, 06:51 PM
Well Goku has taken planet destroying moves and pushed them back. That's a valid point to me
Dante
02-11-2007, 06:52 PM
Please give an example and I hope what ever it blocked was something high in power along the DOTDF. DOTDF is said to be one of the ultimate techniqes, it never stops chaseing its opponent, if your hit by it its pretty much instant death and theirs no way to stop it unless you have Buis Aura, Sensuis Sacred Energy, or your just a beast like Mokuro, so Royal Guard being able to block anything my be true but thats only true to the DMC universe, are you trying to tell me Dantes Royal Guard can block a Kamehameha wave
In this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idfqi51SWkY) video you can see Vergil erect his barrier at least 2 times one around 0:55 and another around 1:20 and some more times I think, he says "Don't get so cocky" then he goes DT while surrounded by that and you can't harm it at all.
You can take a better look here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPsOs9dbZ8s) around 4:40
I'm not that fond of YuYu Hakusho so I don't remember the name of the abiltyes you mentioned however I can't see anyway for both of us to prove the other wrong.
And just for you to know, Dante can take plasma blast of the size of a Kame Hame Ha, he did it from Mundus.
Well I first off dont see Dante having the chance to go DT, by then Hiei would of sliced him up, or Kurama would plant a death seed. Also even if he is in DT the Sinning Tree would just pwn him. Dantes only shot is stoping time, but I dont see the fight dragging to that point.
Whenever Dante starts a fight and he is healty his DT gauge is completely filled and it takes less than a second to go DT or activate the time bangle, in the case that Hiei could try to go for a fast Kill he has 3 problems.
1-Vergil is fast as hell too and he ain't just sitting around
2-Both Sparda's sons reaction time is far superhuman Dante can dodge bullets at point blank and interchange slashes at incredible speeds.
3-Both Dante's and Vergil's regeneration capacity is insane, assuming the opponents don't know anything about each other, I think that Hiei would have a little surprise concerning that
The Nameless Pharaoh
02-12-2007, 02:48 PM
No one answered my question so I'll go ahead and ban any time-controlling abilities.
Adjective-Noun
02-12-2007, 03:23 PM
^It's still a win for the Sparda brothers. Unless you would like to impose some more handicaps on them?
Dante
02-12-2007, 06:38 PM
No one answered my question so I'll go ahead and ban any time-controlling abilities.
If you want to make it a "fair match" then Ban the super forms, as that is what really gives the edge to the sons of Sparda
Superrazien
02-12-2007, 07:14 PM
If you want to make it a "fair match" then Ban the super forms, as that is what really gives the edge to the sons of Sparda
If the fight is to be fair their should be no DOTDF, Yoko Kurama, or Mazaku Yusuke.
seifer26
02-17-2007, 06:07 PM
The Sparda Bros will win this one. Insane speed, skill and regenerative properties will ensure their victory.
ryne11
02-18-2007, 03:40 AM
4(possible 5) on 2, and the 5 still get raped?
Man, Vergil and Dante are Haxxed, but in a good way.
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