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sj2k
01-17-2007, 12:55 AM
COLUMBIA, South Carolina (AP) -- Sen. John McCain said Tuesday he hopes to patch things up with conservative Christian leader James Dobson, who recently said he wouldn't support the Republican's presidential bid under any circumstances.

In a radio interview with KCBI, a Dallas Christian station, Dobson argued that McCain didn't support traditional marriage values and said he has prayed "we won't get stuck with him." Dobson is founder of Focus on the Family, based in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

"I'm obviously disappointed and I'd like to continue and have a dialogue with Dr. Dobson and other members of the community," McCain said Tuesday during a stop in Columbia. (Watch Dobson vowed never to vote for McCain )

McCain has said gay marriage should not be legal but has angered some conservatives with his opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex unions. The Arizona senator said the issue should be left to the states.

"I'm happy to say that I've established a dialogue with a number of other leaders," including the Rev. Jerry Falwell, "Purpose Driven Life" author Rick Warren and Dr. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention.

McCain has reached out to conservatives he once crossed. Last May, he spoke at Falwell's Liberty University in Virginia. In 2000, Falwell opposed McCain's campaign for the GOP nomination and supported George W. Bush. At the time, McCain labeled Falwell and others on the right and the left as "agents of intolerance."

During his 2000 presidential bid, McCain also criticized Bob Jones University, a Christian fundamentalist college, for its ban on interracial dating.

In a GOP debate with Bush, McCain said that given the opportunity to speak at the school as Bush had, he would have said: "Look, what you're doing in this ban on interracial dating is stupid, it's idiotic, and it is incredibly cruel to many people."

McCain said last year that he wouldn't turn down an opportunity to speak at Bob Jones.

Since 2000, the school has lifted its interracial dating ban.

It seems to me that McCain has let go of what made him so popular in the first place. His independant streak. His refusal to associate himself with "agents of intolerance." I mean, I understand in politically, to court more people, but it turns me off from him. I never agreed with alot of his politics, but I thought he was a good guy. This makes me trust him alot less.

Jerry Falwell! I mean, can't you do better John, can't you do better...

themanisme
01-17-2007, 01:01 AM
Never liked him in the first place. Hes too liberal.

DA Dave
01-17-2007, 01:04 AM
Meh I dont know about him losing what made people want him, he needs to get back on track or we could have some problems down the road.

sj2k
01-17-2007, 01:18 AM
I read some of the rules at BJU because of the article, wow. Though this is what franken said

At the end of the chapter he noted that he and his assistant had come to BJU "expecting to encounter racist, intolerant homophobes. Instead, we found people who were welcoming, friendly and extremely nice. A little weird, yes, and no doubt homophobic, but well meaning... kind of."

previsibly
01-17-2007, 01:26 AM
he always kind of weirded me out...

The Space Cowboy
01-17-2007, 02:34 AM
He sponsored McCain-Feingold. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole

Zodd
01-17-2007, 02:35 PM
McCain was always crazy, the media gave him the title "maverick." A person I read online was an avid McCain supporter. Back before the 2000 election, when McCain was making a run at then Governor Bush in the primary, he gathered a large group of supporters for a non-media rally. I guess he went nuts. He started comparing himself to Luke Skywalker. The media and the establishment were the Empire, and he started ranting that he needed their support so he could defeat Vader. I guess he looked so loony people were looking at one another and a general "wtf is going on here" silence settled over them.

His anger has surfaced at other occasions. He snapped at a female reporter on election night. It's on video somewhere, but basically she asked him for comment and he said "get out," totally out of nowhere for no reason. Brian Williams said something like "ooookay, that was Senator McCain."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/5/00548.shtml?s=po

That NOS Guy
01-17-2007, 03:04 PM
In his attempt to woo over the last people who haven't abandoned unquestioning loyalty to the Republican party McCain shows just how compromised his "maverick" ideals are.

I'm well aware politics is a mercenary business, but if you're claiming that you show good sense don't throw your lot with the most corrosive group to the constitution these days.

sj2k
01-17-2007, 03:26 PM
Yeah. I never though mccain was perfect, but I didn't think he would go this low.