The Hyuugacest FC

[Isuzu]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/sorachi/banner.jpg
Title Banner fanart credits: Kanatamade (http://www.geocities.jp/kanatamade12/top.htm)

Welcome to Hyuugacest FC. This is a club for those who support Hyuuga ships. So far there's Neji/Hinata, Neji/Hanabi, Hinata/Hanabi, and Hizashi/Hiashi. If you happen to be a fan of one of them, or more. Feel free to join.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/sorachi/hishi.jpg / http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/sorachi/nehi.jpg

Rep to abfluvver, for the whole idea of a Hyuugacest club. ^_^

Do note that not all the pairings supported in this fanclub are considered incest by everyone. In the case of NejiHina for example, a number of cultures, including in a number of European countries, do not consider cousin relationships as incest, so please do not flame fans of that pairing on this matter. Then what's the "-cest" for? Well... some of this fanclub's supported pairings, like HizaHia and HinaHana, Would be considered incest, so there you go. As for the genetic argument, do note that scientists have long rejected the genetic argument against cousin marriages, as the increase in risks is actually a lot lower than commonly thought. Claiming that "NejiHina = three-headed babies" is about as accurate as "being gay automatically gives you Aids"... For more on these matters, you can refer to the following essays:

Not all cultures consider cousin marriages as incest (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2126274&postcount=1414)
A few lessons on Enculturation (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sintari/38287.html#cutid1)
A few facts (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=1899824&postcount=1230)
The increase in genetic risks is a lot lower than often assumed (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2142515&postcount=1469)
A more in-depth look on Hyuuga genetics (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=649546&postcount=144)

And if you're still not happy: relax! This is a manga! Worst things happen in manga than two consenting adults marrying each other. Nobody's complaining about the fact that kids are killing each other, are they? If you don't like these pairings, just ignore them.

!!! IMPORTANT !!!
All fanart posts must include a reference link to the artist's website or e-mail.


When posting fanarts, it is considered common courtesy to provide a link back to the original fanart page, so that fans can give credit and eventually feedback to the original artist.

One possible method is as following:
1. Upload the fanart to http://imageshack.us .
2. For forum thumbnails, it will provide a code that looks as following:
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3. Replace (source) with the link of the Original fanart

The resulting code will show a thumbnail of the fanart, but clicking on it would link to the Original fanart, on DA or in a fansite, instead of opening up to imageshack.




001. Hyourin
002. abfluvver
003. sharingank
004. Hayabusa
005. occasionalutopia
006. Aethos
007. Smiter
008. Meh
009. _Yamanaka_Ino_
010. AznNarutoGrl
011. isentropic
012. Sgt_Frog
013. Inochi no Fushigi
014. Tifaeria
015. HinataFanBoy
016. Ardus
017. kaiyrah
018. Hyuuga-YoungIsh
019. hyuuga2004
020. Venatrix
021. tootaa18
022. Ilovenaruto
023. Rakumaru
024. kanabi
025. Iwonn
026. hinata_kirei
027. Hyuuga Tanoshi
028. Deep Troatfish
029. DivinePunishment
030. Hsien-Ko
031. shinda
032. Prodigy-child
033. Jordy
034. Heldensheld
035. raynarose
036. VSEPR
037. Deathblade
038. iLLESTxBOO
039. nauko
040. Eel_Yumm
041. Rainy Days
042. suki_hikari
043. Shin-Uchiha
044. Sintari
045. DemonEyes
046. nidaba
047. shalei
048. Itatchi_luver_2005
049. nuttdragon
050. Karorine
051. lil-wolf
052. Otome
053. dae_dreamin
054. Chibi Chan
055. azn_lil_babe
056. crystal-kay
057. Jennie-san
058. XxMandaxX
059. Vibracobra
060. vampire shai
061. Becktard
062. Kunoichie
063. Lilica
064. fma_lover15
065. Eirthye
066. TsukasaElkKite
067. MartialHorror
068. Roy
069. Semptimilius
070. ReikaiDemon
071. chuchay
072. happybunny01
073. ZeroxBlade
074. wanderround
075. hasuhana
076. carolinab
077. shoeythoughts
078. Carnith
079. Wolf_Toboe
080. The_Deathberry
081. iocus_theoda
082. organizedcrime
083. Sryche
084. 9Tail-Hokage
085. Hiromi-chan
086. neji-kun
087. White-Fang_KaKashi_UK
088. Hinata-sama
089. *~sakura~*
090. Takagou
091. Knight of Fate
092. Hyuuga_Hanabi
093. Katakoto
094. kame
095. Esha-chan
096. Titan_of_Sound
097. Shugohakke_Hakke
098. ZeonNoMamono
099. Hinano
100. Hyuuga_Taichie
101. NeophyteNihilist
102. gaara_92
103. kinoshi-chan
104. xyie
105. Pez_Dispencer
106. green tea96
107. Flaxen Snail
108. HarunoSakuralove
109. Saskie
110. Gxzero
111. kakashi#231
112. Satsujin_Isa
113. kiba&hinata7
114. Maes Hughes
115. Makoto-Okami
116. Kaze_no_kitsune
117. Kotonoro
118. basye
119. Neji168
120. Neji-Byakugan
121. cerasi
122. [TK]Hinata
123. Cherrihana
124. -Yondaime-
125. Avie
126. ChocoTaco
127. The Acid Tongued Viper
128. .hatake.
129. dEnZeL-kUn
130. lostgeisha
131. Mrs. Uchiha Itachi
132. baka_niz
133. LitaJ
134. maddle-chan
144. Haengbok
145. oeillet
146. lostgeisha
147. prodigious9
148. hanako_yukino
149. jimi shiniami
150. Debra
151. omnichild
152. hanako_yukino
153. Hlomondodeli Majoribanks
154. Mateo Hyuuga
155. Pyroneko 28
156. Lady-Azura
157. Chewbaruuk
158. Eureka-Chan
159. Mireisen
160. Marshie♥
161. TheKID
162. Aya-San
163. Cloud_Nine
164. anBU_YuFFie
165. chemist710
166. Lady-Azura
167. Chibi-Usa
168. MoonLight Dreamer
169. Prim8
170. Kuyybi
171. sayaruTo
172. DestruCtivE.ArT
173. .XxXitachiXxX
174. IndigoSkies
175. gedembol
176. Tornado
177.Oxygen-Pirate
178. Cindy
179. nio-sama
180. SunnyxShine
181. -Neji-
182. Jen Pen
183. Teruame
184. Ramensensei
185. suchika
186. Pinkmint
187. Laine
188. phoenixblood
189. Misery
190. Kat.chan
191. graffiti_18
192. Soraclaws
193. nightmistress
194. xTiiNAx.
195. Saykay
196. Lycoris
197. trunks_lover29
198. Hinaneji
199. Hyuuga_fan
200. Sheltie
201. knight_of_rain
202. Icha-sama
203. kuina
204. Zaxxon
205. zain-za-nara
206. Saigokarasu
207. mist_kunoichi_hitomi
208. Eva Angel
209. Kudamono
210. DISTANTTHUNDER
211. Neschema
212. Lightspeed Suzuka
213. kurai-chan
214. tatsuya
215. CherryGumBall
216. ChibiKibi
217. ArtGoesBoomYeah
218. MissMinnie08
219. Toki-Doki
220. KD_Nutjob
221. neji_tenten15
222. nami
223. Tetsuzaimon
224. Ryukutoshi
225. Isuzu
226. Crisp
227. sonteen12
228. ensetsu
229. HyuugaFan4Life
230. Lilou
231. Zurburt
232. noirnoir
233. SlayerOfTheFallenDream
234. Christ_On_A_2x4
235. UltimateChaos
236. Yuka7
237. Shiron
238. ShinobiOneKenobi
239. Winged Navi
240. darkshine1607
241. Thien Minh
242. darkshine1607
243. Winged Navi
244. GraveDigger21
245. Ghostrain
246. ryujin1
247. Beluga
248. Nehanshouja
249. Esmereina
250. Heart Gaze
251. Jackie
252. Hatsumomo
253. suzuno17
254. {Twilight.Dweller}
255. Neji'sGirL2514
256. SakuraUzumaki
257. Karsh
258. Jenna Berry
259. JhonnyRaincloud
260. karaseechakra
261. Shorties
262. §WhiteShade§
263. CherryPOCKY<3
264. Hyuuga Angelia
265. byakugan_warrior
266. *HINATA*
267. Kiyoshi_Hinata
268. Gaawa-chan
269. Emma♥
270. Uchiha Min-no-ko
271. Nahima
272. Anary-ne
273. Saito
274. mammadog
275. wehaley
276. popyoo~
277. Satsuki_Kitaoji
278. GreenTeaHyuuga
279. Gaara4732
280. Miyuki Nagato
281. CajNatalie
282. Esmereina
283. Riname
284. megi~♥
285. Karma Monster
286. NejiHinaMyAntiDrug2008
287. xoSaffiRe
288. aoi*
289. Indigo Rose
290. To-to Bear xD
291. Hikari
292. Starlight
293. Jayka
294. Falcom92
295. redhorseman
296. rollingstar
297. Dementia
298. kuraXichy
299. =calexus=\
300. Miyako Hyuuga
301. Kalinade Namikaze
302. Halcyon Nightmare
303. HinaTchii
304. InvisibleAciren
305. angelxdestiny
306. KatanaH
307. SasorisPuppet
308. Kokky
309. Kohaku-Haku
310. sasuhina0894
311. Anime_Fan_4Ever
312. AsahiMikazuki
313. Ayumi00chan
314. toxicPanda



+++n a v i g a t i o n+++
( ) Banners (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=490679&postcount=3)
( ) Fanart and Dounjinshi (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=490917&postcount=5)
( ) Essays and Fanfiction (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=499051&postcount=16)
( ) Websites and Resources (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=495903&postcount=8)


Friends With <3
NaruSaku FC (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=415)
The Uchihacest FC (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=70988)

Want to be friends with us? Just PM me.

[Isuzu]

Banners for member use:
HOST ON YOUR OWN SERVER OR ELSE :C

Hyuugacest Banners (http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k275/Haruno_Sakura_x/HyuugacestBanners/)

[abfluvver]

Muaha, I join, too >D
To make this post slightly relevent, here is fanart:
http://www.sheezyart.com/view/121928/
:oh

[Isuzu]

- - - FANART AND DOUJINSHI - - -


>>> Fanart <<<
Club Gallery (http://img428.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=nnejhi01040427019aw.jpg)
(Gallery set up by Cheh, Feh and Meh. All images are copyright to their respective artists. Many of them can be found in the links listed below, and you can also find back the links in the comment area of each pic!)

Foreign Fanartist
Notice how many of the above links are hard-to navigate Japanese sites... never fear (too much)!
- Just go to this site: http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/
- Paste the url into the bar,
- and click the second circle on the bottom of the bar for Japanese to English translations.
- Go! ^_^

Hidden Youth 365 (http://karsi.vis.ne.jp/israk/) - don't miss the extras at the bottom of the Pictures section!
Pororoca (http://awatsuki.fc2web.com/index.html) Seiren (http://www.gl.eek.jp/seiren/index0510.html)
Hakke (http://www.hpfree.com/vermilion/8kmt_00-index.html)
tenjo (http://tenjo.eek.jp/ume/)
NejiHina's world (http://www.geocities.jp/hanayamasumomo/) - check out the comics!
Karsi (http://karsi.vis.ne.jp/nejihina2005/) - a NejiHina doujin circle's site.
En-ju (http://enjukt.hp.infoseek.co.jp/menu.html)
Kanatamade (http://www.geocities.jp/kanatamade12/top.htm)
Route to Paradise (http://www.geocities.jp/rouparakuen/top.htm)
Wind Dream (http://page.freett.com/winddream/inform.htm)
Christmas Rose (http://www014.upp.so-net.ne.jp/christmas-rose/)
Milky Cubic (http://milkycubic.fc2web.com/top.html)
MHR (http://mhr.pupu.jp/frameset.htm)
Kazamidori (http://www.geocities.jp/nagi_k_dori/toppage.html)
Invasion-traps (http://homepage3.nifty.com/end-rose/menu.htm)
IQ 18 (http://www.rinku.zaq.ne.jp/bkakg905/) - not really NejiHina, it has both of them though
Moudokucyuui (http://www.geocities.jp/moudokucyuui/)
a NejiHana site (http://nino.m78.com/neji/index2.html) Nekodakuro (http://bx.misty.ne.jp/~nekodakuro/tunagi.htm)
Siranami (http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~konoka/siranami/gacho/gacho.html) NejiHina festival (http://nejihinasai.gozaru.jp/framepage1.html)
Sigma Gayle (http://sigma.gozaru.jp/irasutodayon.html)
Rosen + Kranz (http://hinata.ojiji.net/rosenkranz/barakan.html)
Azuzu (http://web-box.jp/azuzu/g.html)
Were less makeup (http://decopon.cool.ne.jp/index.html)
Neji Hina art (http://www005.upp.so-net.ne.jp/mumps/index.html)
NejiHana (http://yakimesi.com/ma/hana/menu.html)
Supernova (http://santafe.mireene.com/supernova/index.htm)NEW

English Fanartist
Shiawase-chan's DA gallery (http://shiawase-chan.deviantart.com/)
Nio-sama's DA gallery (http://nio-sama.deviantart.com/)
Cherylhew's DA gallery (http://cherylhew.deviantart.com/)


>>> Doujinshi <<<
Doujinshi translation by Hinano (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2856495&postcount=2945)

[abfluvver]

People should probably know that SasuHina, or NejiSasu, or whatever, can actually be considred Hyuugacest, though very distantly, since the Uchiha and Hyuuga lines were once the same. :oh

[Mizura]

You know... if you're naming the club Hyuugacest (which is fine), maybe you should be renaming the Thread name from Hyuuga-ship to Hyuugacest as well? Just a thought.... You've mispelled members by the way. For the members list.

[Isuzu]

- - - WEBSITES AND RESOURCES - - -

>>> Websites <<<
Kurosaki (http://www.geocities.jp/nechika915/)
Cecil: Hyuuga fansite (http://hyuuga.ainosenshi.net)


>>> Other Communities <<<
Hyugacest@Livejournal (http://www.livejournal.com/community/hyugacest/)
Deviantart NejiHina club (http://nejihina.deviantart.com/)
YouTube NejiHina FC (http://www.youtube.com/group/nejihina)

[BushidoPunk]

Wait what is this? Is it like NejixHinata kind of thing? If so, marrying cousins isn't my kind of thing.

[Mizura]

If you can't rename it... Remake it before it's too late? Ask a mod to delete this one.

[Q]

I'm so nice, I edited it for ya.

[BushidoPunk]

Ah, so thats what his club is all about. You sick, sick dog! I don't know where you come from but incest is wrong :nono

DIRTY PERVERTS!

[Mizura]

Will someone please tell that baka that cousin x cousin relationships aren't considered incest in every part of the world, and that it was actually very common for noble families (whether in Europe or in Asia) to intermarry? geez. -_- *twitch* That said, Hyuugacest has a nice ring to it.

[Jackal Iscariot]

oh..a new hinata fc?
...
wth? :blink
nejiXhinata?......erhm.....normally i would support these kind of things but...
this seems just wrong somehow...anyway i wish you guys all the lukc on the world...
hope your club goes well

ps: No, i dont wanna join

[sharingank]

OMG OMG OMG!!! I LOVE HYUUGACEST!!!! WHEEEEE!!! *happy dances* They are like, the most crack of the crack pairings. *drools* XD I am so joining! XD Oh, and I did write a fanfic with them. ^^

Here's the link. It's called Hollow. It's also up at aff.net (ff.net is minus the lemon). XD

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2158674/1/

[Isuzu]

- - - ESSAYS & FANFICTION - - -

>>>Essays<<<

It's not for the "incest"! (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2099386&postcount=1347) by Ilovenaruto
They're both sensitive souls (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2100021&postcount=1350) by Nick Soapdish
It's like watching the sun rise after the storm (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2100192&postcount=1352) by Mizura
I don't think the other pairings fit (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2105245&postcount=1368) by Tifaeria
How the hell I ended up here despite myself... (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2193562&postcount=1584) by resident slug Martial Horror
NejiHina Manifesto (http://www.livejournal.com/community/ship_manifesto/114775.html?style=mine) - by Kaiyrah
Kaleidoscope - an explanation of the NejiHina fandom (http://community.livejournal.com/hyugacest/272451.html#cutid1) - by Mizura
Romeo and Juliet (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10639671&postcount=9588) - by HyuugaFan4Life


>>>Fanfiction<<<
Everything Happened (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2396247/1/) by Apple
His Time (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ringo_chan/6347.html) by Apple
Unworthy (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2383669/1/) by Apple

Cages and Kindness (http://www.livejournal.com/community/in_my_notebook/5539.html) by ceresi

Prison Keys (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2601877/1/) by Elizabeth Culmer

Roses and Thorns (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2172913/1/) by ewon

Basemates (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2005644/1/) by firefly

Deliverance (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=9842205#post9842205) by Hatsumomo

Sight (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2390200/1/) by Hiasobi

Love Letters (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2342050/1/) by jan-i-am

Vortex (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1500884/1/) by jeano

Freedom to Fly (http://www.livejournal.com/users/kaiyrah/44836.html) by kaiyrah
The Simplest Answer (http://www.livejournal.com/community/hyugacest/32789.html#cutid1) by kaiyrah

Get Out of My Head (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2035947/1/) by Kichou

Another Chance (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3527257/) by MissMinnie08

The Sun (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1543388/1/) by Moonsheen

Gravity (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2122123/1/) by paopao

Caged (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2234176/1/) by Persepolis130

In Your Shadows (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2180188/1/) by pretty cherry

The Hyuuga cousins (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2394897/1/) by Ochibisama

Logical Conclusion (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2356653/1/) by Scented Candles
Peripheral Vision (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2343728/1/) by Scented Candles

Hollow (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2158674/1/) by sharingank

Other Men's Wives (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2223866/1/) by Sintari
Rosemary for Remembrance (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2215069/1/) by Sintari
The Eyes I Thought Were You (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2143955/1/) by Sintari

Learning How to Breathe (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1652170/1/) by Sunfreak
This is Not A Love Story (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1694758/1/) by Sunfreak

Finding the Sun (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2352310/1/) by ThyLaSlain

Broken Rules (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2319208/1/) by White Girl

He Said, She Said (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4071483/1/He_Said_She_Said) by enchantedmarshie18

Ikebana (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4039699) by MimozaBlooming

[Hayabusa]

Lemme in. This is weird but cool.

[HinataFanBoy]

oh..a new hinata fc?
...
wth? :blink
nejiXhinata?......erhm.....normally i would support these kind of things but...
this seems just wrong somehow...anyway i wish you guys all the lukc on the world...
hope your club goes well

ps: No, i dont wanna join
well well wellm the perverted master has his limits eh?

YAY HYUUGACEST!
if neone can tell me what needs improvements or ya dun mind using it as it is now, then be my guest
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/NMmember/Photoshop/HyuugaCestFC2.png

[Phosphorus]

well well wellm the perverted master has his limits eh?

YAY HYUUGACEST!
if neone can tell me what needs improvements or ya dun mind using it as it is now, then be my guest
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/NMmember/Photoshop/HyuugaCestFC2.png

I lurve that picture! XD;

Best NejiHina fic EVER: Get out of my head! (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2035947/1/)

Don't know if it's been posted or not.

[Mizura]

If you want Angst... I suggest checking out the author known as Sintari. Her characterisation of the Hyuuga household in her latest fic, Rosemary for a Remembrance, is WOW. O_o;; It's not NejiHina Yet, but heh, it's also posted in the Livejournal Hyugacest community, so...

[abfluvver]

My favourite Hyuugacest fics are the drabbles and oneshots that Sunfreak (you can check her out on FF.net) does.
She's basically what turned me onto Hyuugacest in the first place.
And then there's the LJ Hyuugacest community, in which fanart and fanfics are posted:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/hyugacest/

[Magpie]

Get Out of My Head, I read that. Only a chapter or two, I was looking for drama and angst fics. It's funny though, and perverted.

Thanks for the button HinataFanBoy. We love you. Of course we do, you are one of our heroes at NaruSaku FC.

[HinataFanBoy]

glad to be of service!

[occasionalutopia]

Squeeeeee!!!!!! I am so in!!!! #2 Ultimate Crack Pairing - definitely warrants a join :P

[Aethos]

I am SO joining!

[Yoshi]

It certainly would be an interesting pairing, would it bring a good end to the family feud and unite them? Thats would be nice.

[Smiter]

Thanks to Ash-chan and Mel-chan... I'm in. XD

NejiHina is cool. ^_^ Hyuugacest rolls off the tongue as well.

I blame Sabaku no Ira for starting this (remember how he talked about cousins marrying in clans?)

[occasionalutopia]

Eeyep, I blame Sabaku for my descent into Hyuugacest as well XD He should be taken hostage and forced to be a member. Or something XD

And no Mizu-kage, it's not just an "interesting" pairing, it's an OMFGONEONESOEFFINGAWESOME pairing XD *cough* Sorry XD

[DBoon]

neji X hinata?? what this is, despicable! blah!

[Smiter]

DBoon, there is a rule in this forum that you do not go into other FCs and flame them.

It's just not good manners. :) (that, and you also risk being banned)

I think Hyuugacest FC is just good fun. ^_^

[Yoshi]

So smite him then Smiter!

hehe, i would be interested in a HinaNeji pairing, especially as they were talking normally to each other in the manga chapter where Naruto left for training.

[Msut]

ROFL, anyone got a fanart of the extra chromosone kids they would have?

[Magpie]

Welcome occasionalutopia, Aethos, and Smiter.

So many people are joining. I'm so glad ^_^

Their kids, I think they will have extra powerful byakugan.

[occasionalutopia]

Just call me Occa or Mel, Magpie XD

Their kids would simply be the strongest Hyuugas EVER :clap

[Mizura]

I am SO joining!
You're joining? :blink I thought you liked SasuHina a lot better. Are you even in the SasuHina fc? Anyway, did you read Sintari's fics, or did you change your mind on your own? Or are you in it for other pairings than NejiHina (HiaHiza? :P)

Bah. I'm joining too. (I usually avoid actually joining pairing fanclubs but nevermind) I'll have to make my own fc logo too... something nice and angsty for a change...

For me, the appeal about Hyuugacest (well, NejiHina) is actually not incest in itself. Though the appeal Is a result of the two being cousins: it's the complex and in my opinion fascinating ties (chains?) imposed upon the two by the cold, rigid structure that is the Hyuuga clan. That they are cousins is secondary to me... (I never considered cousin x cousin relationships as incest anyway...) but because they are cousins, the bonds they have developped are so complex and fascinating. Had they not been born into the Hyuuga structure, things would have turned out differently. Heck if Neji was not the prodigy from Branch, while Hinata was his weak cousin from Main, then they might have become close friends, Neji as a child thought that Hinata was cute. Instead, the mere minutes seperating Hizashi's birth from Hiashi's have turned that possible friendship into Neji's blinding hatred towards Hinata, who was just her poor self, trying to cope in a rigid structure that did not suit her gentle self. But it seemed to me that Neji's blinding hatred bordered upon obsession, and in that case, the line between hatred and love can be thin indeed (cliche as it may sound). As Sintari said: love and hatred are both strong emotions. The troubled relation between the two, with the spectre of the hatred tying the Branch house to the Main looming behind, is just too fascinating.

What can I say? I'm an angst fan. :P

Also, now that the hatred is gone... can the scars finally heal?

Hmm, I did a pretty bad job explaining why I find this pairing fascinating. Oh well. Guess I won't become a fanfic author. :P But some of you probably get what I meant... (come on now, some of you have Bound to be angst-fans as well)

[Magpie]

You're joining? :blink I thought you liked SasuHina a lot better. Are you even in the SasuHina fc? Anyway, did you read Sintari's fics, or did you change your mind on your own? Or are you in it for other pairings than NejiHina (HiaHiza? :P)

Bah. I'm joining too. (I usually avoid actually joining pairing fanclubs but nevermind) I'll have to make my own fc logo too... something nice and angsty for a change...

For me, the appeal about Hyuugacest (well, NejiHina) is actually not incest in itself. Though the appeal Is a result of the two being cousins: it's the complex and in my opinion fascinating ties (chains?) imposed upon the two by the cold, rigid structure that is the Hyuuga clan. That they are cousins is secondary to me... (I never considered cousin x cousin relationships as incest anyway...) but because they are cousins, the bonds they have developped are so complex and fascinating. Had they not been born into the Hyuuga structure, things would have turned out differently. Heck if Neji was not the prodigy from Branch, while Hinata was his weak cousin from Main, then they might have become close friends, Neji as a child thought that Hinata was cute. Instead, the mere minutes seperating Hizashi's birth from Hiashi's have turned that possible friendship into Neji's blinding hatred towards Hinata, who was just her poor self, trying to cope in a rigid structure that did not suit her gentle self. But it seemed to me that Neji's blinding hatred bordered upon obsession, and in that case, the line between hatred and love can be thin indeed (cliche as it may sound). As Sintari said: love and hatred are both strong emotions. The troubled relation between the two, with the spectre of the hatred tying the Branch house to the Main looming behind, is just too fascinating.

What can I say? I'm an angst fan. :P

Also, now that the hatred is gone... can the scars finally heal?

Hmm, I did a pretty bad job explaining why I find this pairing fascinating. Oh well. Guess I won't become a fanfic author. :P But some of you probably get what I meant... (come on now, some of you have Bound to be angst-fans as well)

Oh goody! I never even thought of that, yet I call myself an expert on tensional crush. yup yup. Love and Hate are both passion without reason. Now there's a new idea for a fanfic.

[Mizura]

Um... so am I in or not?

[sharingank]

Dude, I look at Hyuugacest the same way, Mizura. XD The two of them together just fascinate me...especially the dynamics of their relationship. There are so many layers to be peeled away in order to get down to the core, and even then, there is still more...I just love it. XD And realistically, this is one of the only ways that the clan ever WILL be united, with the need for the curse seal vanishing for good. It just makes so much sense (which is another reason why I love this pairing to death...)

[Magpie]

Um... so am I in or not?

Oh sorry it took so long. Of course! Welcome, you've been added.

Random Comment: Drawing the Hyuuga family is fun! Never have to go through the hysteria of perfecting the eyeballs and orbs. Most anime style art have such detailed and beautiful eyes. Especially in Shoujo series, artists are competetive when it comes to eyes. I think I'm going to draw everyone blind from now on; extend the Hyuuga clan.

[Aethos]

You're joining? :blink I thought you liked SasuHina a lot better. Are you even in the SasuHina fc? Anyway, did you read Sintari's fics, or did you change your mind on your own? Or are you in it for other pairings than NejiHina (HiaHiza? :P)

I'm part of the SasuHina FC too. Remember I love any pairing with Hinata in it except for NaruHina because to me it just doesn't work nor seem realistic.

Bah. I'm joining too. (I usually avoid actually joining pairing fanclubs but nevermind) I'll have to make my own fc logo too... something nice and angsty for a change...

HURRAH YOU'RE JOINING TOO!!!!! :glomp

Eh? Eh? What was I doing?! Ehehheh sorry about that. Don't know what came over me there. :laugh

And as for that Dboon guy he's just jealous because he didn't think up the idea first.

[_Yamanaka_Ino_]

Hell ya i'm in

[Magpie]

Welcome Ino, we're glad to have you.

[occasionalutopia]

A little Hyuugacest contribution:

http://img157.exs.cx/img157/9099/047hyuugacest8vl.jpg

Cross-posted this in the Naruto Captions thread, and linked the pic to this FC (although more people will prolly be aghast than join XD). Ah NejiHina, will Kishi ever be on enough crack to write you both? :P

[HinataFanBoy]

haha nice work occasionalutopia

[occasionalutopia]

:smile-big

I'm loving your Renji sig HFB! :clap If anyone ever makes me a Byakuya one I will cyberkiss their feet XD

[HinataFanBoy]

better keep ur word on it lol, got ne pic u want? heh even if ya dun want what i make i dun mind cuz i have so much fun makin sigs ^_^

[occasionalutopia]

Ooooh will you really??? :glomp I'll DEFINITELY keep my promise (and rep you with all 4978 pts of my rep power XD) I don't have particular pics in mind, just as long as he looks ubersuperduper smexalicious and er ... well, you know how my mind works :xp :nuts I'll get back to you if I find any pics I have in mind ::goes off to perve at anime Byakuya::

[Aethos]

That NejiHina comic was smexy Mel-chan :glomp

[occasionalutopia]

Glad you loffed the NejiHina smex Zoro-kun! :glomp

And oh, this is for the awesome and VERY patient HFB for the fabwonderculous Byakuya siggy:

http://img232.exs.cx/img232/4665/hfbkiss8oz.jpg
As if you guys couldn't tell from my awesome MSPaint skillz, that's me cyberkissing HFB's feet as promised :smile-big (Although I don't think he'll find that too amusing, so I'd better just rep him instead XD) Zank kyuuuu HFB!!!!!! :glomp

[HinataFanBoy]

if i learned nething in that experience it was that i can tweak a grunge tut to make my own style and that occasionalutopia is very picky :P

[_Yamanaka_Ino_]

'ello ppl wht's up?

[Aethos]

Mel-chan is the awesomes. Heh I'd do screen cap comics myself but I have no screen caps to work off of.

[occasionalutopia]

Aww thank you Zoro-kun :glomp (see HFB, I'm not a monster! :P) No seriously, HFB was amazingly patient with me (he had to redo it like, a billion times XD) ... but you could have tactfully said "She's a woman who knows what she wants" instead of "very picky" ... XP XP XP Now nobody will want to marry me :crying

[HinataFanBoy]

lol u took that little drawing off, heh i felt like makin a sig outta it

[occasionalutopia]

You mean the one of me kissing your feet? ::goes to look:: Strange, I didn't take it off, the link must have died. Here you go XD

http://img224.exs.cx/img224/5818/hfbkiss2ew.jpg

[Aethos]

Now nobody will want to marry me :crying

You'll always have me! :laugh

[sharingank]

LMFAO!!! MEL!! OMG!!! YOU ARE MAH HERO!!! *dies*

[occasionalutopia]

You guys really have to stop encouraging me XD

You'll always have me! :laugh::clings to Zoro-kun :love::

[Aethos]

You guys really have to stop encouraging me XD

::clings to Zoro-kun :love::

::clings back to Mel-chan::

OMG MEL-CHAN X AETHOS IS MORE CANON THAN ASH X SMITER OMGWTF!!!!!1!!!!!!

ok that's the end of my insanity XD

[occasionalutopia]

Poor Magpie is going to come back and wonder WTF we did to her FC :P

::smexes Zoro-kun in show of Aethos x Mel-ness:: XD XD XD

[sharingank]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!! *slow motion* MAH CANON-NESS HAS BEEN PWNED!!!! WHAT SHALL I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??

:p

Sorry in advance, Magpie!!! XD

er..uh...

YEAH FOR NEJI AND HINATA MAKING BABIES!!! WHEEEEEEEE!!!

[Aethos]

Poor Magpie is going to come back and wonder WTF we did to her FC :P

::smexes Zoro-kun in show of Aethos x Mel-ness:: XD XD XD

::smexes back:: XD XD

[_Yamanaka_Ino_]

wow this thread got interestin

[Magpie]

Poor Magpie is going to come back and wonder WTF we did to her FC :P

::smexes Zoro-kun in show of Aethos x Mel-ness:: XD XD XD

I actually came back, bewildered already. Partly because I have a heavy fever, and secondly I became very confused at the Naruto and Sakura FC. They were talking about Neji and Hinata out of the blue there. For a sec, I thought I was here.

And continue on with the smexing, have fun guys. I'll just go read chp 102 and 245 once more (for the uh.... many many times)

[HinataFanBoy]

dun forget the snaxing! lol i like that word

[Magpie]

Do you guys think ch 247 is going to be about Naruto and Sakura returning to town, or will it jump to Sasuke? I hope they go back to town, then we get to see Neji and Hinata, and the rest of the Hyuuga clan (hopefully), also Ino, Shikamaru, Chouji, Lee, and etc. ^_^ I think the Hinata tea seen foreshadows/hints that the relation between the Main and Branch Houses gotten a little bit better. Neji is still cursed, though actually I'd prefer if he remains cursed, for fanfic purposes.

[HinataFanBoy]

lol "for fanfic purposes"

[Aethos]

Oh it's obvious. When we see Neji and Hinata again they'll be married with kids and run off at awkward moments to smex.

Ok no they probably won't but it'd be funny if it were to be true.

[Magpie]

I can't wait til we see them again, but unfortunately we won't see them in chapter 247, it just came out. OMG NEJI IS A CHUUNIN! congratz

[Sephero]

Incest is gross.

[Phosphorus]

I can't wait til we see them again, but unfortunately we won't see them in chapter 247, it just came out. OMG NEJI IS A CHUUNIN! congratz

Actually, I believe Neji is a Jounin. And,

Incest is gross.

You, just go away.

[Shinigamiii]

I want to point out something. Neji and Hinata's fathers were identical twin brothers. So in all technicality, they are half siblings. Think about it.

[Mizura]

Scientifically they might be half-sibling, but technically they're cousins. :notrust Besides, so what? We might as well argue about the morality of sending 12-years-olds on killing missions. In my opinion anyway, Neji and Hinata are cousins, and I don't view marriage between cousins as incest. Even if I did, I wouldn't care much, as this is anime, and I'd just assume that in the Hyuuga culture, marriage between cousins is okay. Cultural differences people, as long as they don't hurt other people, I don't see the problem.

[Shinigamiii]

Don't hurt people?? What about the in-breed kid with an arm sticking out of his head. You make the argument about different cultures and the royalty lines, but you forget that they are often a minefield of genetic diseases. Breeding among those with genetic relations is wrong for very scientific reasons.

[Mizura]

:notrust

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=487428&postcount=42

I say, if you want to prevent genetic defects, then make laws against having pregnant women take drugs, smoke, drink alcohol, or stay around other people who smoke. While we're at it, have them live in unpolluted environments. Yeesh.

And who's ever actually seen a kid with an arm sticking out of his head?

Marrying between close relatives is a bad idea if your family is known to carry a recessive genetic defect. As it happens though, Hiashi and Hizashi looked perfectly fine, so I doubt they're carrying any genetic defects. I'd say that Hinata and Neji's children will thus most probably be fine. The Hyuugas are probably already a bunch of inbreds anyway. And they seem fine.

In fact, I'd be far more worried about those pills some of those clans are taking.

[AznNarutoGrl]

can i join?

[Magpie]

Actually, I believe Neji is a Jounin.

Yea you're right! *clap clap* congratz Neji!

AznNarutoGrl, sure you can. Welcome to the club!

[Phosphorus]

:notrust

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=487428&postcount=42

I say, if you want to prevent genetic defects, then make laws against having pregnant women take drugs, smoke, drink alcohol, or stay around other people who smoke. While we're at it, have them live in unpolluted environments. Yeesh.

And who's ever actually seen a kid with an arm sticking out of his head?

Marrying between close relatives is a bad idea if your family is known to carry a recessive genetic defect. As it happens though, Hiashi and Hizashi looked perfectly fine, so I doubt they're carrying any genetic defects. I'd say that Hinata and Neji's children will thus most probably be fine. The Hyuugas are probably already a bunch of inbreds anyway. And they seem fine.

In fact, I'd be far more worried about those pills some of those clans are taking.

Wow, you totally pwned him (?).

[Mizura]

Eh, you'd also have to thank Arilou for providing the statistics. Honestly, isn't there some rule against flaming in a fc, or is it just disallowed to flame in an anti- fc?

[Phosphorus]

Eh, you'd also have to thank Arilou for providing the statistics. Honestly, isn't there some rule against flaming in a fc, or is it just disallowed to flame in an anti- fc?

I'm pretty sure. These people are really starting to annoy me. I say we neg rep them to death!

[Sephero]

So, that whole long arguement is basically extolling the virtues of incest?

[Mizura]

No. It was basically to prove that Shinigami is a complete idiot who knows nothing about what he's talking about. Got a problem with that?

[Sephero]

I have a problem with incest.

[Phosphorus]

Well that's all good and fine. We don't come into your fanclubs and go on about how disgusting whatever is, now do we? And I see you whined about that neg rep you got, too.

[Mizura]

Bah. Gave him another neg-rep.

[Phosphorus]

Shouldn't we tell one of the smods to tell these people to leave us alone?

[Mizura]

Maybe next time. Cheh.

[Sephero]

Well what did you expect when you made the fc? that everyone was going to be cool with it?

[Phosphorus]

We expected people to be intelligent and respectful and not come in here and bash.

[Sephero]

So now I'm stupid for not liking incest?

...

Anyways, ill leave you guys to your things now and respect your privacy, i dont want to start anything, alright? Later.

[Magpie]

I just never expected people to come in here and start topic conversations of whether Neji and Hinata or Hiashi and Hizashi should be considered incest or not. But what does that matters, love people, love. All you need is love *sings joyfully*, oh that's the title of a very famous Draco&Ginny fanfic.

But then again, why do people come in here yelling? They know they are going to get stompped.

If you have a problem with Hyuugacest, then fine. No one is making you like it. Just continue skipping along. You don't see me going into SasuSaku or NaruHina clubs and start bashing them. I just hop between here and the NaruSaku club.

[occasionalutopia]

:/
I have a problem with incest.You're entitled to your opinion, but really, go start an Anti-Incest FC in the Non-Naruto Fanclubs section IF you feel that strongly about it, instead of raining on another FC's parade.
Anyways, ill leave you guys to your things now and respect your privacy, i dont want to start anything, alright? Later.That wasn't so hard was it? Cheers :)

On-topic:

Occa's gratuitous what-are-you-smoking? prediction of the week:

When Neji and Hinata reappear in Part 2, they will be together. Hinata will blush coyly while Neji evenly announces w/ his typical poker-face expression that they are engaged, and all jaws within earshot drop.

(Right, about as likely as Kabuto being straight, but one can dream. Also, if anything remotely resembling that ever happens some chapters down the line, J00 will all bow down to me and call me God >D)

[Mizura]

Ooooh, I've jus found something that's just Perfect! :D

At the Hyuugacest Livejournal Community, a certain Rianax just made a very well-researched comment about first-cousin relationships. Go lookie!

http://www.livejournal.com/community/hyugacest/ (bah I don't know how to link specifically to that section, but right now it's on top of the page so you can't miss it).

Edit: baka me. Here:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/hyugacest/41419.html?view=147147

A quick search also turned out this: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/columns/fl.grossman.incest.04.09/ , which features the following interesting information:

"Prohibitions on cousin marriage are unique to the United States. Most other countries permit first-cousin marriages without restriction, and the rate of cousin marriages in some countries is as high as 60 percent of all marriages."

It explains why I (I'm a European) never knew that cousin-cousin relationships were considered incest. It's because in the great majority of the world, Europe included, it isn't.

[isentropic]

Er.. *waves*?

Hey guys, a totally new fan of the Hyuugacest pairing of Neji and Hinata. Hope I'm doing this right cause this forum confuses me. Heh. May I join this fanclub?

Thanks a bunch! Oh, can I have one of those pictures in everyone's signatures? Or do I have to make my own. Gah.

Sorry for the roundabout questions! Hope I can join!

Cheers!

[Magpie]

Welcome isentropic! The codes/buttons are at the main page, I think Mizura or HinataFanBoy made some for us too.

[Sgt_Frog]

can i join...?

[Magpie]

Sgt_Frog, sure. welcome welcome. I love your Itachi avatar btw. His eyes, hey just pull you in, don't they?

[Mizura]

HFB made a logo of Neji gropping Hinata from a fanart. I haven't made anything yet, I really should, but I'm, well, lazy.

[isentropic]

by Magpie:
Welcome isentropic!Hey thanks! I'm slowly being consumed by the Neji/Hinata pairing so it's a really nice thing to know I ain't alone!by Mizura:
HFB made a logo of Neji gropping Hinata from a fanart.Oh yes! :laugh I saw it on one of the poster's sigs. Really funny. If I were to use that sig he made, do I need to ask permission or can I just place it in my sig? Where is he anyway? :looks around:

By the way, just out of curiosity, how did the members of this club find themselves being a fan of the Hyuugacest pairings? Can you remember the first time you guys thought, "Hmm, Hyuuga A and Hyuuga B? Not bad!" Did you see/thought of it because of the Naruto fandom or the manga/anime itself. Is it just a kink (what with the incestuous theme and all)?

(Er... questions like this are allowed, aren't they? Please feel free to shut me up any time I cross a line.

And I'm sorry for the multiple questions... :D)


~ [isentropic]

[Inochi no Fushigi]

To respond to the previous post:

Actually, it's odd. I got into HinaxNeji after watching the Chuunin Exam arc in the anime, and at the time, I was at the arc in the manga where Naruto was after Sasuke to keep him away from Orochimaru. I don't know what fueled it, but as an avid fanfic writer, I found the coupling interesting and they'd make a nice pairing for a writer like me who loves insane plot twists and weirdness. :3

To be honest, I didn't even consider incest before this. Yes, I already know about the recessive genetic traits that could be carried on through genes as dominant; but that was mainly a problem when actual siblings married. Hinata and Neji still have a likelihood to pass on a recessive genetic disorder, but the probability of that is lower than that of the royalty's way of marrying off siblings to each other.

And, with that, I conclude my post to skip off and take me pills and rest (sicknesses suck).

EDIT: Ah, yes, and I would like to join this FC, please. :0

[Phosphorus]

Hey thanks! I'm slowly being consumed by the Neji/Hinata pairing so it's a really nice thing to know I ain't alone!Oh yes! :laugh I saw it on one of the poster's sigs. Really funny. If I were to use that sig he made, do I need to ask permission or can I just place it in my sig? Where is he anyway? :looks around:

By the way, just out of curiosity, how did the members of this club find themselves being a fan of the Hyuugacest pairings? Can you remember the first time you guys thought, "Hmm, Hyuuga A and Hyuuga B? Not bad!" Did you see/thought of it because of the Naruto fandom or the manga/anime itself. Is it just a kink (what with the incestuous theme and all)?

(Er... questions like this are allowed, aren't they? Please feel free to shut me up any time I cross a line.

And I'm sorry for the multiple questions... :D)


~ [isentropic]

I guess from reading fanfics... I just slowly got pulled in :blink

[Aethos]

Basically Hyuugacest was originated on the fact that all Hyuuga's look the same. After all just look at them! They have to be in-bred. Plus the fact that they're so secretive about the Byakuugan not to mention that every member of the clan has it.

That pretty much proves that they marry within the clan. Also since Neji is the best person to become the leader of the main house it's logical that Hiashi would set him up with Hinata so that he could take over the main house after Hiashi dies. After all it would be possible since Hinata IS the older daughter and that means senority rights.

[Phosphorus]

Basically Hyuugacest was originated on the fact that all Hyuuga's look the same. After all just look at them! They have to be in-bred. Plus the fact that they're so secretive about the Byakuugan not to mention that every member of the clan has it.

That pretty much proves that they marry within the clan. Also since Neji is the best person to become the leader of the main house it's logical that Hiashi would set him up with Hinata so that he could take over the main house after Hiashi dies. After all it would be possible since Hinata IS the older daughter and that means senority rights.

:blink I think think that has already been explained, but okay. And it's Byakugan. (Because I'm nitpicky damnit XD)

[Aethos]

actually there are two u's in Byakuugan.

Just as how there are two u's in Jyuuken.

[Phosphorus]

Ah, well, that's how everyone else spells it. Except of course for they idiots that make up some random word such as 'jyukigan'.

[Aethos]

Ah well it's spelled Byakuugan and Jyuuken on many other Naruto sites as well as in scanlations and subbed episodes so it's basically how I spell it. Maybe some people purposely keep out the second u because they see it as redundant.

[Phosphorus]

You're the first person I've ever seen to spell it Byakuugan. And of course I've seen Jyuuken with two u's because that is how I spell it. Or maybe you could spell it either way. Like the u with the little whatchamacallit on top. XD I'm too lazy to look.

[Tifaeria]

Hi! I was wondering if I could join this fanclub? I've always enjoyed this couple and I think it makes more sense than NaruHina, although I do read about them. Plus I think it's sweet the way Neji smiles at Hinata. So cute! So anways, that it. I'll be back later. :wink

[Mizura]

There's only one u in Byakugan... it's made up of two words: Byaku, which is one way to say "white" (haku is another actually, and it Certainly isn't hakuu), and gan, which is one way to say "eye". And Byaku is with only one u at the end. Just because some words have two u's, doesn't mean they all do...

[abfluvver]

Someone asked how got you into Hyuugacest...
I personally discovered the fandom through Sunfreak/Suzukiblu, whose Naruto one-shots and drabbles can be found here:

http://www.fanfiction.net/~sunfreak

She's written most of the Naruto pairings imaginable (even if they are all one-shots and drabbles), so you might want to check her out.

[Magpie]

How I became a Neji and Hinata fan:

I'm just a recent fan, since I only got into Naruto about a month or so ago. I remember I was freaking out, just being the obessed fan girl I was, when chapter 245 came out. I'm a big Naruto and Sakura fan. All of a sudden, while oh the phone with a friend it actually popped into my mind! Neji and Hinata remind me of Draco and Ginny (from Harry Potter). For some reason I had the feeling that Neji and Hinata fanfics would be just as profound. Then the next day, I decided to look for Neji and Hinata fics. That's how it started. Truthfully, I have yet to find a Neji and Hinata fic that is as good as the Draco/Ginny classics. But it doesn't bother me anymore since I'm already hooked on. And Neji and Hinata in my mind, still seem like such a sophisticated couple.

Inochi no Fushigi, cool. It's interesting, anyway welcome to our club. Hope you enjoy.

Tifaeria, really? Neji smiled at her? Where? When? *looks around* Sure, hold on let me add you. Welcome to our club!

So happy, so many new members!

[Aethos]

There's only one u in Byakugan... it's made up of two words: Byaku, which is one way to say "white" (haku is another actually, and it Certainly isn't hakuu), and gan, which is one way to say "eye". And Byaku is with only one u at the end. Just because some words have two u's, doesn't mean they all do...

I never said they all do yet...

YOU TALK BLASPHEMY!

::pulls a nearby lever opening a trap door under Mizura's feet::

Bwahahaha Excel Saga eat your heart out.

Anyways it doesn't matter if it has one u ot two either way it sounds like Byakuugan so meh. Oh and I was kidding Mizura so you know.

[Tifaeria]

So...he wasn't smiling at her in chapter 238? I must have been wrong. I'm just glad that he acknowledges her in that chapter. :)

[Phosphorus]

So...he wasn't smiling at her in chapter 238? I must have been wrong. I'm just glad that he acknowledges her in that chapter. :)

He was smiling... Wait... Isn't that a tad spoilerish?

[Tifaeria]

OMG! GAAAAH! I completely forgot!
*bow*
I'm so sorry! I will never let that happen again! I will try and edit it, I promise! Well I did and it's ok now. :sad

So...am I kicked out now?

[Magpie]

Oh yea! He was! I loved Hinata when she came out. It was the one time that I went "oh she's pretty".

[Phosphorus]

OMG! GAAAAH! I completely forgot!
*bow*
I'm so sorry! I will never let that happen again! I will try and edit it, I promise! Well I did and it's ok now. :sad

So...am I kicked out now?

I think you'll be okay. I believe most of us are manga readers here anyway. :smile-big

[Tifaeria]

Alright! Then I'm getting that cute wittle button with chibi hinata and neji.
*snuggles them both*

[Magpie]

They were such cute kids, when they are little. They look so good together back then too.

[Phosphorus]

Yeah, they were adorable. You just go "Aaawwww"

[Magpie]

When do you guys predict we are going to get to see the new Neji and Hinata in the manga? Things seem to be very caught up with Gaara at the moment (not that I mind <33 Gaara). With piority and all, seems like after the Gaara issue is dealt with, they'll jump right to Sasuke's current condition. As much as some of you might not like it, he's still a major character. Kishi must talk about him sooner or later.

[Phosphorus]

Probably not for a while, because Kishi's tormenting us.

[Mizura]

With any luck we just might see them in the next chapter! I pretty much expected them not to show up in this chapter, because they're busy showing what's happening in the Village of Sand. However, this part seems more or less done now, and in the preview for next week, it says that the news reaches Konoha. So it's back to Konoha! With any luck, they'll call on all the ex-genins to assemble in response to the news! Inluding Neji and Hinata! :amuse It's not like they'll do 16 pages of Naruto crying out "What? Gaara's been What?" (unless they show 14 more pages of Sand, then only the remaining ones are dedicated to Naruto...)

[Magpie]

They could show Sasuke. I mean he's been out for awhile. I can't wait to see the rest of the ex-genins. Especially Ino, Kiba, and Neji! Oh! and Akamaru too, of course, I don't think he'll changed much though, maybe grown bigger.

[Mizura]

Yo, lotsa links to Japanese NejiHina fansites! (though don't ask me how to navigate them). Enjoy! (found on the link section of a Japanese NejiHina ring site. I'm posting the links directly though, as it took me quite a long while to figure out where they were. Turned out that you had to click on the link that says "leave" in Japanese. :notrust )

http://mhr.pupu.jp/cmflink/cmflink.cgi?category_id=003

Enjoy! :P

[HinataFanBoy]

does hinahana hyuugacest fit in this FC too? jus curious

and can i plz get on the members list? T_T

[Phosphorus]

does hinahana hyuugacest fit in this FC too? jus curious

and can i plz get on the members list? T_T

Obviously. It's the Hyuugacest FC, not NejiHina FC. Most of us just like NejiHina. :P

[Magpie]

Yea, of course. Welcome them.

[Mizura]

does hinahana hyuugacest fit in this FC too? jus curious

and can i plz get on the members list? T_T
Oh-hohohoh.... Magpie, you should add him to the member list... T_T

HinaHana counts as well. There's just a lot less (romantic) fanwork involving the two, though I do remember a couple of fics with one-sided HinaHana.

[Magpie]

That's funny, I remember adding HinataFanBoy already. Well anyway sorry for not adding you. My apologies.

While re-reading the Chuunin arc, I came across this. Ch 77 pg 17
Hinata gives Naruto medicine cream.
Naruto: Uhh sure thanks you're nice, Hinata
---
then shows a pic of Naruto and Hinata bot smiling, they are blushing, and Hinata does her finger thing
---
Neji looks from a distance
Neji: You seem to be enjoying yourself, Hinata-sama...

Could we say he's jealous?

[Mizura]

^ Yup! You're not the only one who has thought of that one, I've heard other people muse over it in authors' notes and the likes. :P Sintari went even further: when facing Hinata, Neji seems to say that he knows everything about her. Which practically means that he's always observing her. :P Yosh!

Hey, noticed a funny thing recently? El Jackal has a Neji avatar, for the moment at least. And as some of you might know, in his user profile, right under his avvie, El Jackal's says his location is "Inside Hinata's jacket". That implies Neji ... ... ... . And to my knowledge, El Jackal isn't even a NejiHina-er. XD I wonder how long he'll keep that avvie once he realizes what it implies...

[HinataFanBoy]

eh? just cuz he has a Neji ava doesnt mean that its him, so it doesnt imply that Neji is in Hinatas jacket, nicy try tho ;)

[Mizura]

It might not imply that, but basically you see Neji's pic, and just a little below you see: "Location: inside hinata's jacket", so it sure seems like it. :P

Edit: eh, he changed avvies.

[isentropic]

Which practically means that he's always observing her.
And he *has* admitted to finding her attractive... What? He said so himself! He thinks she's CUTE! Of course, that was when he was four, but it's still canon!

Er... never mind.

--o

Mizura - That was a fantastic link! The art was awesome! En-Ju (http://enjukt.hp.infoseek.co.jp/) seems to be more of a KibaHina fan though. Still, her Hinata (and ART!) is gorgeous. Thanks a lot! :D

[Mizura]

... "a"? I thought my link was supposed to link to a link page, which contains links to Many NejiHina sites. :blink though they're still hard to navigate. Still, yeah, En-Ju's site is one of them.

[Magpie]

Neji Neji, you sick sick boy, what have you finally come to. *tsk tsk*

I remember there was this perv NejiHina fic, that starts out with Neji wounding himself. And having perverted thoughts about Hinata's words.

[isentropic]

Neji Neji, you sick sick boy, what have you finally come to.
What? What does this statement mean? *politely asks Magpie to share this information*

thought my link was supposed to link to a link page, which contains links to Many NejiHina sites.
Oh, well, I can't really read the text, but I visited the En-Ju first because the banner looked like Hinata and Neji (though the brand isn't seen). I haven't seen all the art though, so I might just be generalizing. Still, the artist seem to be a part of a KibaHina, uh, comic (?) drive because she has an icon leading to a... KibaHina site that makes me think like that.

Will continue looking at the art. There might be some wonderful NejiHina there too.

--o

edit: Can someone tell me why my number of posts doesn't seem to be increasing? I'm not doing anything wrong am I? (Please tell me if I am... I'm not used to this board yet)

[Mizura]

I don't remember such a fic. *_* What was it called?

[isentropic]

Wai! I Finally found a Neji! Lookie (http://enjukt.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ga_img/naruto/n_32.jpg). I have no idea if that's introspective, contemplative, resigned or just plain tired. Oh well.

--o

edit: Found NejiHina! S touching (http://enjukt.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ga_img/naruto/n_31.jpg). One can make a fanfic out of this, I bet.

--o

Speaking of fanfics... can, uh, not to bother anyone that is. Can someone reccommend some NejiHina fanfics? Please?

If only you can, that is.

[Mizura]

Eh, by the way, En-ju's gallery is here in case you didn't find it:
http://enjukt.hp.infoseek.co.jp/menu.html

NejiHina: I recommend Sintari's Rosemay for Remembrance. It's not NejiHina... yet, but let's just say that I'm not too worried about the "yet" part.

[isentropic]

Yep. I knew the link. Thanks so much for helping. It was very nice of you. ^_^

As for Rosemary for Remembrance, I've recently read the fifth chapter and I'm dying for the next one! She's really good at what she does and her characters are very alive. I've been leaving her rambling reviews that are not contructive at all (and yet, ironically, takes up MUCH space). I hope she finds the time to make the next installment.

I was wondering if there are any other NejiHina fics out there. I seem to have only read a handful and I'm wondering if the NejiHina fanbase is really just this small. Do you know any other fanfics?

[Tifaeria]

Well this author named Cookie6 writes good NejiHina and SasuHina stories, although she goes by another name now. I'm trying to look for some good fanart and writing. I came across a few on ff.net and aff.net but I forgot the names. Sorry. :sad

[isentropic]

...although she goes by another name now.
Is this Kichou? I think that's the name she goes by now. By the way, are there other places where one can read NejiHina fanfics other than ffnet? Cause it's so hard to find fanfics there sometimes. I wonder if there are any NejiHina-only sites out there that are in english. I haven't found one yet.

Mizura placed a link to a page with fanart links just last page. Hope you find some great ones! I'm looking for some fanfic myself. Heh. Will tell once I find some.

[Mizura]

Hey guys! I've been making a few calculations on genetic risks. We all know by now that first cousin marriages pose little risk right? What about Neji and Hinata, who are genetically half-siblings?

Quick explanation on words:
- chromosomes: a person's genetic information is spread across 23 (I think) pairs of chromosomes. Each person inherits half of the chromosomes of each parent, one from each pair of chromosomes.
- DNA: it's what chromosomes of made of, they're basically a type of molecules.
- genes: a sequence of DNA, located on a chromosomes, that codes for a specific trait of yours, such as eye color and the rest. Bad genes can cause genetic diseases.
- dominant genes: if you have such a gene on one of the chromosomes out of a pair, then it's enough for it to express itself.
- recessive genes: you have to have the gene on both chromosomes out of a pair for it to express itself. This means you have to get it from both parents. Most genetic diseases are recessive: you can only get them if both your parents had the gene and passed it along to you. I'll thus be talking about dominant and recessive genetic defects from now on.

Inbreeding does Not cause genetic problems to occur on their own, they only increase the likelyhood that recessive traits show up. So we'll calculate the risk.

Considering any given pair of chromosome, I'll be calling one with a genetic defect B (bad), and one without G (good). When we're talking about recessive traits, you're healthy if you have the GG, BG or GB combination, and unhealthy if you have the BB combination.

Now! Before we begin, I'm sure you you'll all agree that Hizashi, Hiashi, Neji and Hinata look relatively healthy. It is thus safe to assume that they don't have any significant dominant genetic defects. So we can only assume that they have recessive ones. Now assuming that Neji and Hinata both have recessive defects, they could have them from either their mother or their father. Since both are healthy, they can't have inherited from both. So either each inherited the exact same recessive defect from their mother (unlikely) or from their father (more likely). So I'll assume that their mothers are fine, and that Hiashi and Hizashi on the contrary are the ones who have a problem (the risks can only be lower if they get it from their mother anyway, since the likelihood that both mothers have the same recessive trait is lower than with Hiashi and Hizashi, as twins have the same genetic material so would share the same genetic problems).

So let's assume that Hiashi and Hizashi both have a recessive genetic defect (so the corresponding chromosome would be GB).

The likelihood that Hiashi passed it on to Hinata is 1/2. Same with Neji. So the likelihood that Both Hinata and Neji have the recessive trait is 1/4.

In the event that both Neji and Hinata share the same recessive genetic problem (they'd also be BG), their children can have the following combinations (first letter from mother, second from father): BB, BG, GB and GG. Since it's recessive, only in the case of BB is the child unhealthy: a 1/4 risk.

So the overall risk is 1/4 x 1/4 = 1/16: one in 16, or 6,25%. In 93,75% of cases, their kid would be Fine.

What if there are Several seperate genetics defects? For each, the probability of the kid not getting it is 15 out of 16, so in the case of n problems, the probability that the child has none of them is (15/16)^n. So if there are 2 defects, they have a 87,98% chance of being completely healthy. But really: the Hyuga all seem to be more or less inbred anyway, so any genetic problem should have showed up in at least some of the members long ago. Yet they all seem rather healthy, and the Hyuga clan would not be considered one of Konoha's strongest if there were many Hyugas sick from having genetic defects. And if they don't have recessive defects in the first place, there's little risk of any showing up.

What's more, studies have shown that the increase in genetic risks from first cousins marrying is lower than what is expected out of calculations (see links in my other posts on that), and explanation could be that a forming foetus would automatically abort in some cases if there's a significant genetic problem. In any case, this should also be applicable to Neji and Hinata.

So the risks that their kids would have genetic problems would be Lower than 6.25% per kid, assuming that there are genetic problems running in the clan in the first place. In at least 93.75% of cases, their kids would be Fine. So tell that next time that someone claims that if Neji and Hinata have kids, the kids would have two heads and three arms. :notrust

[Ardus]

What an amazing idea for an FC! I'd like to join!

[HinataFanBoy]

Well this author named Cookie6 writes good NejiHina and SasuHina stories, although she goes by another name now. I'm trying to look for some good fanart and writing. I came across a few on ff.net and aff.net but I forgot the names. Sorry. :sad

i really liked her fics, not a sasuhina fan but the fic was awsome, i forget the title at the moment tho

[Magpie]

Sure, Ardus. Welcome to our crazy bunch.

isentropic, I love your avatar.

I ought to think of more greeting messages, besides welcome.

[isentropic]

So tell that next time that someone claims that if Neji and Hinata have kids, the kids would have two heads and three arms.
Excellent calculations! At least, with your claculations, no one can make assumptions regarding this matter any longer. Still, people who have it in their heads that cousin-relatioships are incest will still find it squicky. I guess it all really depends on cultural backgrounds.

(I asked a few friends about this matter and they're torn in half. 50% doesn't think it's incest, 50% find it incest. Funny that)

What an amazing idea for an FC! I'd like to join!
Welcome Ardus! May I ask what Hyuuga-pairing you like the best?

i really liked her fics, not a sasuhina fan but the fic was awsome, i forget the title at the moment tho
Because Sasuke Means Only Sasuke to You? I'm not much of a fan because I don't agree with her characterizations but, I kinda liked this story.

Oh, I saw something interesting in one fanfic. Apparently, an Uchiha/Hyuuga pairing is incest because Uchiha divereged from Hyuuga. Is this true? Does it mean that this FC support those pairings then?

isentropic, I love your avatar.
Hey thanks! I worked hard on that! I finally made a signature too. Talk about broadcasting to the whole forum, eh?

[Mizura]

^ Hah! The Uchihas... even in the US, marrying cousins is alright if they're far removed enough (3rd or 4th removed cousin?), and the Uchihas are probably Very far removed from the Hyuugas. Besides, if you want to go far enough, we're All related in one way or another (you'd just have to go back a few million years...). That said, I wouldn't mind if this club supported UchihaxHyuuga as well. :P

Say, where are you from Isentropic? If you're American and half your friends don't think marrying cousins is incest, that's pretty good. If you're Not American though (say... European), then on the contrary it's pretty bad... unless you're talking about online friends?

Oh by the way since Isentropic gave a title to Cookie6's fics, I managed to find her new name again: Cookie6 is now Kichou, for all that's worth.

[isentropic]

I'm from Asia (the Philippines, to be exact) and seeing as we're very ingrained in religion, I'm actually quite happy with this ratio. I had half expected ALL of them to be squicked by it and steadfastly tell me that it is indeed incest. I don't really believe it is because I've been brought up to believe that child/parent, sibling/sibling are the only relationships that falls under incest, but that belief is not very common here. Thank goodness my friends are quite open-minded. Your information also helped because even I didn't know that there are a lot of countries that accepts first-cousin marriages. The belief here is the same as the US, I think, meaning it is only 3rd/4th cousin marriages who are acceptable.

(Ironically enough though, our current President's son's wife was his first cousin. It sort of goes against the norm, yet no one raised a rucus.)

And yes, an Uchiha/Hyuuga pairing wouldn't really be called incest anymore. :P I was just asking if this fanclub would support the pairings because, generally it will still be Hyuuga/Hyuuga. Hehe...

Kichou, yes, I did know it was her. Like I said, not a fan because her characterizations does not really sit with me (not to mention the fact that kissing has a large role in the story even when the ages of characters are questionable). I'm still looking for NejiHina fanfics. It's so hard to look for some. ;__;

[Mizura]

^ hoh, so it means that in the Philippines, some people feel icky about cousin-marriages, but there aren't actually any Laws against it, is that right?

I went to the Philippines once. :amuse And we found out the hard way that indeed, Philippines is a very religious country. Religious as in 'all travel agencies were closed because of religious holiday Easter vacation' - religious. Which means that instead of going to thousand islands, we were stuck in Manila. :oh Ah well, could have been worse.

Hmm, Kichou, I don't always agree with her characterizations either, she tends to make the characters a bit too mushy for my taste (instead of angsty. Like say, Sintari. XD Found any nice spoilers on her livejournal then? Since I've been looking over there longer than you, I did indeed get a number of spoilers. Small hints, really). Kichou's smart though, she got Lots of people to review by forcing them to do so in order to receive the lemon parts. Anybody have any idea if they're any good? That said... lol, Kichou got the most hilarious flames recently, and Kichou decided to vent about it in a seperate chapter. Some of the readers really take things too seriously... (if they don't like the pairing, why are they reading in the first place? @_@ losers. Go complain about the fact that there are 12-years-olds killing each other in Naruto instead!)

Meh.

[isentropic]

...so it means that in the Philippines, some people feel icky about cousin-marriages, but there aren't actually any Laws against it, is that right?
Bingo! Wait... you mean there are actually laws in some countries that prohibits this kind of thing? Whoa. I didn't know that either.

There is the possibility that there are no laws against it due to the fact that everyone just assumes it is a taboo and thus, needs not be stated. But then again, I think it's just because it is not a very common occurrence (or not really that important). Gay marriages are (IMO) more frowned upon than incest as I've only ever heard a few cases (news clippings, tv shows) that ever stated anything about this (and its usually rape-related [father/daughter] or an uncommon case of siblings marrying each other due to separation).

Religious as in 'all travel agencies were closed because of religious holiday Easter vacation' - religious.
Oh! I'm sorry! It's not only that. We are also the Religious as in, "Shows not religon related are prohibited to be shown on TV," and "Classes/Jobs/Anything that needs Work-related thing needs to STOP" religious. Everything is virtually on pause when it's Easter here. Which is why non-Catholic folks gets bored out of their skulls when it's Easter.

Like say, Sintari. XD Found any nice spoilers on her livejournal then? Since I've been looking over there longer than you, I did indeed get a number of spoilers. Small hints, really
Oh, quite! I really thank you for pointing it out to me. I also read what she told you about Rosemary (I'm assuming it is you, but if I'm wrong, then I apologize!) being a three-part story. Heh. I'm so excited of the fact that NejiHina is her OTP. That practically guarantees NejiHina (or at least, memorable NejiHina scenes) in her story. And she says Chapter Seven is something she's excited to write about! I can't wait!

(if they don't like the pairing, why are they reading in the first place? @_@ losers. Go complain about the fact that there are 12-years-olds killing each other in Naruto instead!)
Wholeheartedly agree. Sometimes though, there are really people who tend to go into romance too much that they forget the other, sometimes MORE, questionable aspects that are so obvious in Naruto. Romance is good and all, but it should not be the focus of the story.

By the way, a question for everyone: Since this is a fanclub, are there any activities currently going on? Like drabble-writing activities for example, or a round robin kind of game. Speculations? Theories? What do you think is the first scene that'll show Hinata, Neji and maybe Hanabi in the new arc? How do you perceive Hiashi and Hizashi's relationship before they were forced to be separated by the Hyuuga ways? Have any speculations about how the Main and Branch Houses came to be? And other things. You know? That kind of stuff.

No reason, really. Just asking, is all.

:D

[Mizura]

Bingo! Wait... you mean there are actually laws in some countries that prohibits this kind of thing? Whoa. I didn't know that either.
Whoa, you're actually surprised. Well, um, yes, apparently, there are laws against that in the US. And apparently, only in the US. Buh.

Oh! I'm sorry! It's not only that. We are also the Religious as in, "Shows not religon related are prohibited to be shown on TV," and "Classes/Jobs/Anything that needs Work-related thing needs to STOP" religious. Everything is virtually on pause when it's Easter here. Which is why non-Catholic folks gets bored out of their skulls when it's Easter.
Heh, no need to be sorry. We ended up staying at a rather nice hotel, and got to enjoy the local cuisine a bit. Though the TV part? @_@ Well I didn't watch tv there much while I was there, not like I could understand much anyway. Though I did read a disturbing article in a newspaper that during Easter, some Philippinos reenact the cruxification of the Christ. Pinning to a cross and everything. :blink *shudders*

And yes, I'm that Random Person who's too lazy to create an account to properly review. :P But I still manage to get lots of extra info out of Sintari with my reviews. Ain't that nice?

As for the speculations and whatnot, it's just that speculations on the Hyuuga household are usually done in the Theories section of the House of Uzumaki. As for when Neji and Hinata will appear... HOPEFULLY they'll appear as soon as possible, but they'll Probably not be appearing any time soon, not with the present sand arc going on. Waaaaah. *sniffle*

[isentropic]

Though I did read a disturbing article in a newspaper that during Easter, some Philippinos reenact the cruxification of the Christ. Pinning to a cross and everything.Heh, well, how to say? This is a very common theme here during Easter. It is done with the belief that, as Jesus suffered to cleanse our sins, doing this act of selflessness [sacrificing one's body to achieve penance] shows great loyalty and sincerity in wanting to truly be forgiven. It's also serves as a reenactment of what happened waybackwhen. Don't be fooled though. This reenactment has real nails and real crucifixion. The cross is heavy too and the things used to beat the people-in-penance's backs truly cuts skin.

Gah. Never mind. I've never been enamored by it, and I live here. I guess it must be shocking to others too. All this done for religion. I sometimes think we are too ingrained in it, but then, what can one do against tradition (especially since I'm not really aiming to change it, gah).

Ain't that nice?Oh definitely. And I get to read your conversations, so I get little bits and pieces of info too. I think I should thank you for this indirect act of hinting. Thanks! :D

...but they'll Probably not be appearing any time soon, not with the present sand arc going on. Waaaaah. *sniffle*I know! I just read Chap250 and... wait, I might spoil you. Hopefully, you've read it already?

Team 7's going to the Sand! Wah! No more Konoha for who knows how long! I wish they could at least have a few panels next chapter for getting supplies which might lead to them seeing other characters, but, well, it might just be wishful thinking.

Hmm, I didn't know such speculations are recieved for the Theories section. Can we ask for character studies here then? Or personal favorites? What episode in manga/anime is your favorite Hyuuga scene or things like that? What do you think is Hinata/Neji/other Hyuuga's greatest failing? Greatest strength?

Heh. I have a lot of questions. It's because the Hyuuga Family is the Family which, I think, is the most opened up family in the Naruto series. At the same time, they tell so little that every scene just makes one question them more. It's positively intriguing. The characters in the family are very interesting too. Heh.

[Mizura]

I know the nails are real... that's why I found it discturbing... but whatever. :P

And yes, I've read 250. Which is why I've mostly lost hope of seeing the rest of the cast anytime soon, unless we're Really lucky and Naruto bumps into them as he leaves.

You can ask whatever you want in here, really. I'm just saying that many questions related to the Hyuugas haven't been asked Here, because it's been done in the theories thread. The truth is we still don't have an exact idea of how the hyuga system works, which leads to interesting speculation in fics. :P

My personal favorite is Hinata of course, followed by Neji. As for what I like about Hinata... I've said a good deal about it in the pairing's thread, here:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=17199&page=6&pp=20
There are two posts of mine on that thread. I've also typed what I like about her in some other thread, but it's essentially repeating the same thing I've said in the pairings thread, so...

[isentropic]

Mizura! I just finished reading your posts (from page 6, was it?) and you rock! I'd rep you if I know how those things work and if I can already give one in the first place. Excellent, excellent posts about Hinata.

One thing that keep being contested was the fact that Hinata getting up is a minor thing. I can't understand how they came to believe this. From Kurenai's flashbacks, it was obvious that Hinata was a quitter who, once she fails, will just lie back and not try anymore. The fact that she got up time and time again should have shown that this was a big improvement.

I think I'll continue reading that thread. I hope more insightful Hinata posts come up.

(That Arilou person's posts were awesome too)

Oh, for Hyuuga favorites, it would have to be Hinata too, and then Neji, just like you. I never did like shy girls but somehow Hinata is different. She isn't the "typical" shy girl because of the fact that she has shown she can be tough in her own way and I like that. Plus, you gotta love a person who knows their own weakness and tries hard to change it.

Later!

[Magpie]

Uchiha/Hyuuga, that's a bit far fetched, but what the heck! If their are Uchiha/Hyuuga fans out there, then welcome them! Although there's already a Sasuke/Hinata fan club already. But if you mean other Uchiha and Hyuuga family members, then they can hang out here if they want. Nothing personal against Sasuke/Hinata, just that they already have a more specific club already.

[kaiyrah]

Er... sorry if I'm intruding. But I'm a new member and would LOVE to join. I've been obsessed with Hyuugacest for quite a while.

I have a couple of new offerings. There are a few NejiHina fics at my livejournal that I haven't posted on fanfiction.net yet... here's one of them: http://www.livejournal.com/users/kaiyrah/44836.html

Also, I have a Hyuugacest FF.net c2 community: Hyuuga: Jyuuken (http://www.fanfiction.net/c2/37/0/1/)

And my NejiHina site that I've been ignoring for a couple of months... ^^; I'm slowly trying to kick it alive though. Some staff would help *winkwinknudgenudge*: Why the Caged Bird Sings (http://white-rain.org/kage)

...Last thing, I promise. ^^; Here's a Japanese site that has really beautiful art: http://karsi.vis.ne.jp/israk/
Once you enter the site, click on the fourth button down on the left side of the page.

If you ever need some fanart or fanfic recs, come to mee. I have lots of resources. :D

[Magpie]

Sure, welcome kaiyrah to our club and the board. Hope you enjoy, aren't message boards just so fun? Wow awesome, the first Neji and Hinata site I've seen! I've thought to starting, but just gave up on the idea, I don't like writing character bios very much. And for joining our club, here are some milk and cookies, a year supply of instant ramen (although they are not very healthy food), and samples of whatever type of tea Hinata had for Neji and Hiashi (whatever it is, I'm sure it must have been expensive). Sorry we are a small club and don't have much actual stuff to offer at the moment (like media files, computer goodies and etc.). Oh that reminds me! I should make some.

[Hyuuga-YoungIsh]

I wanna join ADD ME

[Magpie]

Sure. Welcome! Here have some tea with us.

[Phosphorus]

Er... sorry if I'm intruding. But I'm a new member and would LOVE to join. I've been obsessed with Hyuugacest for quite a while.

I have a couple of new offerings. There are a few NejiHina fics at my livejournal that I haven't posted on fanfiction.net yet... here's one of them: http://www.livejournal.com/users/kaiyrah/44836.html

Also, I have a Hyuugacest FF.net c2 community: Hyuuga: Jyuuken (http://www.fanfiction.net/c2/37/0/1/)

And my NejiHina site that I've been ignoring for a couple of months... ^^; I'm slowly trying to kick it alive though. Some staff would help *winkwinknudgenudge*: Why the Caged Bird Sings (http://white-rain.org/kage)

...Last thing, I promise. ^^; Here's a Japanese site that has really beautiful art: http://karsi.vis.ne.jp/israk/
Once you enter the site, click on the fourth button down on the left side of the page.

If you ever need some fanart or fanfic recs, come to mee. I have lots of resources. :D

Very nice. UPDATE IT! (your site)

[Magpie]

fanfiction challenge

Summary: Forget about arrange marriages, Neji and Hinata find themselves trapped by their clan. (You are free to make up your own reasons, please expand and explain on them). As friends/cousins they run away together. They wander around in the Naruto universe... and the rest is up to you.

Length: I don't think you can really fit this all in a one-shot. Maybe 8-20 chapters

Rating: All allowed, except for plotless lemon/lime

I normally don't write up challenges, so there's really not much of anything else for me to say. Have fun enjoy writing. ^_~

[Tifaeria]

So you can have a lemon in it, just make sense with the story?

[Mizura]

Um.... the problem is I really don't see Neji and Hinata running away, save for the whole clan dying off first. See that cursed seal of Neji's can probably be activated from a long distance... ah well.

By the way Kaiyrah, nice site! I've noticed you linked to one of my posts in the Articles/Essays section by the way. You know you're free to upload it directly onto your site, there's no problem directly linking it to this forum, though forums posts are not the most stable mediums (it might one day get deleted by accident or similar), so just putting it up on your site is probably the simplest solution... You might also add, where NejiTenten is concerned, that the manga is pointing towards LeeTenten at this point anyway.

[Phosphorus]

Um.... the problem is I really don't see Neji and Hinata running away, save for the whole clan dying off first. See that cursed seal of Neji's can probably be activated from a long distance... ah well.

By the way Kaiyrah, nice site! I've noticed you linked to one of my posts in the Articles/Essays section by the way. You know you're free to upload it directly onto your site, there's no problem directly linking it to this forum, though forums posts are not the most stable mediums (it might one day get deleted by accident or similar), so just putting it up on your site is probably the simplest solution... You might also add, where NejiTenten is concerned, that the manga is pointing towards LeeTenten at this point anyway.

NejiTen? Bleh. I hate that pairing.

[harukahanata]

................?

[isentropic]

Late, yes, but I'd still like to welcome the newbies (since I'm fairly new too, heh).

fanfiction challenge

Summary: Forget about arrange marriages, Neji and Hinata find themselves trapped by their clan. (You are free to make up your own reasons, please expand and explain on them). As friends/cousins they run away together. They wander around in the Naruto universe... and the rest is up to you.

Length: I don't think you can really fit this all in a one-shot. Maybe 8-20 chapters

Rating: All allowed, except for plotless lemon/lime

I normally don't write up challenges, so there's really not much of anything else for me to say. Have fun enjoy writing. ^_~
Hey there, Magpie. Great idea for a fanfiction challenge! But do you think it'll be okay to have challenges for shorter, vignette-like stories too? Or maybe some sort of drabble-a-thon or a round robin. Maybe we can do it here if the mods allowed it. :D

You might also add, where NejiTenten is concerned, that the manga is pointing towards LeeTenten at this point anyway.
Oh, something I've always wondered about NejiTen: Where did it came from? Aside from Tenten's know-how into Neji's skills, does she or Neji show any kind of hints to being romantic? I admit that I did see some LeeTen at the end of Part 1 (238, was it? When Tenten gave Lee that twinkly-eyed smile?) but I think my manga knowledge is too limited to have seen it if it were ever shown. Hey there, harukahanata! Since you're a fan of the pairing, would you care to fill me in?

Kaiyrah - your site is wonderful! I've actually seen it before you linked it here (signed the guestbook too, :D) and was wondering if you still need that help. If you do, then I'd be more than happy to help you! There are (as far as I know) no NejiHina-centric English sites out there and I'm glad you made one! *glomps*

That is all.

[Magpie]

So you can have a lemon in it, just make sense with the story?

Sure. If you think it goes with the mood/sense of the story then do as you wish.

[Tifaeria]

Whee, alright! I just never written one before, but if this challenge says it's ok, I will try....If not, at least I wrote something.

[Mizura]

Hmm, I've just noticed that my post was in the wrong fc. Ah well. Magpie, you actually joined the anti-Hinata fc? :oh I don't mind, it's just that I find having the owner of the Hyuugacest (ie 90% NejiHina) fc be an anti-Hinata person a bit weird.

[Hyuuga Fugen]

NejiTen? Bleh. I hate that pairing.

I love that pairing
but leextenten is good too
you know if they making babies...
a cute little baby with a thick eyebrow and mickey head :P

I'm not joining anyway

[isentropic]

Hmm, I've just noticed that my post was in the wrong fc. Ah well. Magpie, you actually joined the anti-Hinata fc? :oh I don't mind, it's just that I find having the owner of the Hyuugacest (ie 90% NejiHina) fc be an anti-Hinata person a bit weird.
But that person, the co-owner of the anti-Hinata FC I think (Aethos, right?), though I kept seeing posts of him regarding his Hinata hate, I keep seeing posts of him saying he like pairing Hinata up with . . . Sasuke, I think. And if I'm not mistaken, he's part of this FC too, right? So . . . I don't really think it's a far-fetched thing, hating a character and shipping them with someone. In a different fandom, there is a pair I really support although their characters separately are one of those which are in the bottom of my "liked" lists. I also ship a pairing where I only like a character *if* they are in that pairing. Weird, eh?

but leextenten is good too
you know if they making babies...
a cute little baby with a thick eyebrow and mickey head :P
Oh, what a lovely visual! :D A thick-eyebrow Mickey haired child. Hey, it's not actually bad! I wonder if there's a LeeTen FC here?

*looks*

[Mizura]

No no, what I find weird isn't when a person likes a pairing but hates one of the characters in it. What I find weird is that the Leader of the Hyuugacest (which is practically the NejiHina fc) may dislike one of the characters enough to join the anti- fanclub. :P I mean... you'd expect the leader to be particularly fond of the pairing, right? And that usually means being at least partly fond of each of its components. Aethos there, he supports SasuHina and NejiHina, but it's not like he's rabid about it or anything. At least I don't think so, now that the anti-Hinata fc is up and the anti-Hinata people are claiming that Hinata will die an old virgin, Aethos there had joined the clamor as well. I then asked him if he still supported SasuHina or not, and his answer was "uh...". :P

I really don't mind actually, Magpie can join both the anti-Hinata fc and the (nonexisting) anti-Neji fc for all I care. I just find it weird. People who actively support a pairing (which is something I'd think true of a fc leader, but that's just an impression I have) usually like both characters, at least when they're paired together... (Aethos doesn't like Hinata even when she's paired up with Sasuke or Neji. Go figure. :P )

...

Besides, finding out that Aethos liked SasuHina and NejiHina at all was actually one of my weirdest discoveries in this forum. He hated Sasuke, and he hated Hinata (now he just hates Hinata), and he supported SasuHina. I asked him if he supported SasuHina because it was basically pairing up the two people he hated most. He said no, and his answer was something in the lines of "they look cute together". My response was a big sweatdrop, before I started nervously at the situation (I had never thought that the Naruto Forums' #1 Hinata basher would use cute and Hinata in the same sentence, much less with Sasuke...). Either "cute" or "kind". Somethine like that.

[isentropic]

What I find weird is that the Leader of the Hyuugacest (which is practically the NejiHina fc) may dislike one of the characters enough to join the anti- fanclub. :P
Ah yes, I see your point now. Heh. :D I guess it takes real support/devotion to actually start an FC club. The thing is, I understand why she could possibily do that. I only looked through the first few posts in the anti-Hinata fanclub, but I do understand what they're trying to say. Hinata fangirling (fanboy-ing?) is so rampant and usually sexually-oriented that one can't *help* but think it's Just. Too. Much. I don't blame Hinata though. Hinata, as she is in canon, is someone who deserves some attention, IMO. It should be the fans who takes things to the extremes who should be blamed.

I noticed a pattern in Aethos' posts. His Hinata hate seem to have stemmed from the Hinata-fanboy belief that Hinata is almost Mary Sue-ish in perfection (which is, far from canon anyway) and how she's so powerful and sexy and hott and whatever else. I am lucky to not have seen too much of these (I tend to stay away from severe fan-squeeing of characters) but I guess too much of this can really make one hate a character.

And the conversation about Hinata's bust size is just plain ridiculous. She's 12, for goodness sake. At that age, it's already usually budding, yes, but not the the point where it demands THAT kind of attention.

Uhm . . . never mind. Heh. Don't hate Hinata, just the fanbase she has developed. It gets really frustrating when people who likes Hinata gets labelled just because of this.

[Mizura]

Oh that, yes, most anti-Hinata fans do admit that their #1 reason for hating Hinata is because of the "scary rabid perverted fanboys". Even I'm wary of them. Those who don't say it... well I haven't truly come across anyone who truly "hates" Hinata just for who she is, she's the type that you'd usually dismiss and ignore when you don't think much of her. The rabid fans just made ignoring a bit impossible. *shrugs*

But the fact remains that it's called the "anti-Hinata" fanclub, not the "anti-Hinata-fanboys" fanclub. :P

[isentropic]

Besides, finding out that Aethos liked SasuHina and NejiHina at all was actually one of my weirdest discoveries in this forum. He hated Sasuke, and he hated Hinata (now he just hates Hinata), and he supported SasuHina. I asked him if he supported SasuHina because it was basically pairing up the two people he hated most. He said no, and his answer was something in the lines of "they look cute together". My response was a big sweatdrop, before I started nervously at the situation (I had never thought that the Naruto Forums' #1 Hinata basher would use cute and Hinata in the same sentence, much less with Sasuke...). Either "cute" or "kind". Somethine like that.
Er, heh, only saw this now. You have one fast internet access. That or this forum is just really quite traffic heavy for my dial-up.

Anyway, hehe . . . I find this quite funny. Still, perhaps there is *something* in the SasuHina pairing that really draws him or something. If he hates two characters that passionately, yet can say, "cute" in regards to that pairing, then maybe he likes it a great deal, na? I was never really a fan of SasuHina until Sunfreak made that awesome vignette entitled These are the Facts and read Hana J's fanfic titled Hesitant Love and her little ficlet (untitled) about how Sasuke started noticing Hinata. I guess great fanfic can really convert anyone, but *those* fanfics came off as so natural and with that, "could-possibily-happen" feel that I actually became a semi-shipper. Perhaps one should ask how he started liking the pairing. :P

But the fact remains that it's called the "anti-Hi