The Hyuugacest FC

[Nick Soapdish]

Simply under a cut because some people might not be that far along in the manga, yet.

We won't know until we're shown that flashback. It's a nice theory, but I'd like something more concrete. Kishimoto's not necessarily the type to make his readers make educated guesses of his works. He'll usually tell you flat out what's happening after making you agonize over it for years.

Of course, IF that's the case (Hinata's smile letting us know she was okay with it) then I hope we see more development of her character sans Naruto's influence. Then again, the smile could still be more for her being glad Naruto is okay and happy he's finally getting the acceptance he's been wanting for so long and have nothing to do with Hinata fine and dandy with NS.


I don't think that it's going to be resolved simply with the smile. I think that we will have a scene - either by flashback or in real time.

The smile could be just because she's happy that Naruto is fine. After all, everybody else is smiling, too.

Anyway, I think that a lot of it with the pairings fans is that the cards are on the table now. It can't be about obliviousness any more.

[Esmereina]

Well well... what have we here? Activity in the Hyuugacest FC I see? :wtf

Very nice indeed! ..however, I dunno about all this... spoiler talk... :lmao

Where is your faith in the hyuuga pairings?? I mean Nejihina in particular can still happen.. albeit not likely..but its still possible... There just needs to be more Hyuuga interaction and more feelings to be resolved before they end up in an arranged marriage in the end....:ho

Although I do see whats going on in the manga lately.. i am not oblivious to it...lol but i still has my hope... My hope won't die until the manga ends... ^^

NarutoX? hmmm


And SALEM... Welcome to the Hyuugacest FC. Its a pleasure to see you here partaking in our discussions and such. I shall add thee to the list! And Be sure to send me a PM of that.. pic ... :wink

[MariaW]

this thread sure needs activity :hurr
:ho


I still think Kishi will ever make Neji and Hinata ahave something together :(....sad..

[Esmereina]

MariaW - you do realize that Kishimoto isn't a western thinker... nor does he give a crap about what the western audience thinks of his manga... right?

^^; its this little fact that keeps me hopeful of the pairing anyway. :)

he is just trying to apease the masses a little..but i am certain he won't do any set pairings for team 7... or any other pairing.. the only reason why Nejihina would still be up for grabs is because of the Hyuuga laws... thats all... Kishimoto said it himself.. he isn't good with writing romance... ^^;

[MariaW]

Ok, that gives us some hope, I suppose :P


There many things that Kishi has done in the Manga that he won't probably explain...why he keeps avoiding pairings is one :laugh


anyway...the forbiden fruit tastes the sweetest :hurr

[Esmereina]

Its a more interesting read than regular romance manga.. thats for sure.. i get excited especially when its a cousin pairing..or a step sibling pairing... even the twincest at times can turn me on...^^;

And Kishimoto is never going to explain anything he wants to write.. i mean .. at this point in time he is making a hell of a living from royalties so anything he writes at this point.. if it ends up not pleasing the crowd.. it won't affect him financially...^^;

Japanese people are smart.. when they create something awesome.. they keep it interesting until they get the money they desire..they invest half to a certain wealthy company and then spend wisely on the rest...and then set themselves for life...then they just write whatever they like to finish their manga without a care in the world. ^^;

Kubo is doing the same... and I know Takahashi (Inuyasha creator) Has done that! the ending although pleased the people...she never gave explaination as to how Kagome was able to open that damn well again to see Inuyasha after she finished high school... ^^; major plot hole..but she didn't care...she already got rich from the manga long ago. ^^;

since Kishimoto is a guy.. i figure his ending would not be pairing based... everything would be socially related in the shinobi world...without explaination ofcourse...^^;

[Salem]

Thank you for the welcome~ :hoho

I feel honoured to be added to the list! ;33

..So...We have another dirty dirty person here hmmm? Lucklily I still have the link handy dandy. Be warned, the doujin, VERY explicit and graphic and sexual.

Enjoy it, I know everyone else did. :urahaha

[MariaW]

Its a more interesting read than regular romance manga.. thats for sure.. i get excited especially when its a cousin pairing..or a step sibling pairing... even the twincest at times can turn me on...^^;

And Kishimoto is never going to explain anything he wants to write.. i mean .. at this point in time he is making a hell of a living from royalties so anything he writes at this point.. if it ends up not pleasing the crowd.. it won't affect him financially...^^;

Japanese people are smart.. when they create something awesome.. they keep it interesting until they get the money they desire..they invest half to a certain wealthy company and then spend wisely on the rest...and then set themselves for life...then they just write whatever they like to finish their manga without a care in the world. ^^;

Kubo is doing the same... and I know Takahashi (Inuyasha creator) Has done that! the ending although pleased the people...she never gave explaination as to how Kagome was able to open that damn well again to see Inuyasha after she finished high school... ^^; major plot hole..but she didn't care...she already got rich from the manga long ago. ^^;

since Kishimoto is a guy.. i figure his ending would not be pairing based... everything would be socially related in the shinobi world...without explaination ofcourse...^^;

Ok, you've got a point there.


Since I'm lazy I won't be writing a long reply :laugh

But you have to agree that would be great that in the end he settled Hinata and Neji together :hurr

[Cindy]

I'll take a link to the doujin. Is it a timeskip one? I've probably seen all the pre-timeskip ones already. :sag

[Salem]

I'll take a link to the doujin. Is it a timeskip one? I've probably seen all the pre-timeskip ones already. :sag

:hoho I've snagged another pervert~ :<3

Its a pre-timeskip, but trust me, if you search the site you'll find timeskip and pre-timeskip ones.

Remember, tis graphic~ :urahaha

[Cindy]

:hoho I've snagged another pervert~ :<3

Its a pre-timeskip, but trust me, if you search the site you'll find timeskip and pre-timeskip ones.

Remember, tis graphic~ :urahahaI wonder if it's the site I usually frequent. :ninja

[Salem]

I wonder if it's the site I usually frequent. :ninja

Heh. If it is, I can safely say, "Great minds think alike, and so do perverts!"

:hoho

[MariaW]

I wonder if it's the site I usually frequent. :ninja

and what site is it? :hurr

[Esmereina]

@Maria: lol... yes it would be.. and knowing Kishimoto.. if he opens the Hyuuga door one more time.. there may be some Hyuuga action as a result... just not sure if it would be positive or negative...but a good read im sure! ^^

@Salem: well hun.. ive been a perve all my life...its nothing new.. lol... i like these doujin... ^^ *saves it as favorite*

[MariaW]

@Maria: lol... yes it would be.. and knowing Kishimoto.. if he opens the Hyuuga door one more time.. there may be some Hyuuga action as a result... just not sure if it would be positive or negative...but a good read im sure! ^^

@Salem: well hun.. ive been a perve all my life...its nothing new.. lol... i like these doujin... ^^ *saves it as favorite*

I'm sure it will be :hurr
but you are right about one thing...if there's a pairing that really has got a chance to come to life is without doubt NejiHina :ho

[Salem]

:hoho Yes yes. Same here. I remember finding my daddys pr0nz when I was 2. I was addicted after that~

:facepalm I was a dirty little child. Now... I'm just your average: Horny little high school girl :hoho

Once again, you saw nothing...

[Cindy]

http://a.deviantart.com/avatars/o/h/ohohoplz.png Oh, yes. That's one of my favorite NejiHina doujins. Thank you.

[Salem]

Well, its not the same website...but...Us perverts think alike when it comes to doujin~ :hoho

I should write a Hyuugacest one-shot...Would be interesting~

[CynthiAngel]

yeah...if kishi puts neji and hinata together in the end through arranged marriage to unify the clans...that might make sense. :)
but it'd be better if they got together willingly.

[Salem]

Hmm...You know, thats a brilliant idea.

It makes sense, and probably could work. Though they'd probably not be too willing, but it could happen.

It would be nice just to see Hinata and Neji together though. :hoho

[Cindy]

I'd only want an arranged marriage to go through if both were okay with it. I can see Neji throwing a shitfit over the clan controlling his life again and Hinata being just another victim of clan politics. If that were to happen, I'd think they'd be miserable. And I want them to be happy.

Of course, there's the angle where they're both distraught over the arranged marriage, get married, and THEN grow to fall in love with each other.. but I'm not too sure I like those types of stories.

[CynthiAngel]

ah yes, the age-old question:
is it better to fall in love, or learn to love somebody?

[Teru♥]

I'm glad this is alive once again! :wtf Well, I'm always desperate to see NejiHina arranged-marriage situations. Some writers would portray it awesomely in fanfictions.

Wow, this is one amazing art. I can feel their moans. (http://cholja.deviantart.com/art/NejiHina-132250791)

[CynthiAngel]

wow!
that fanart is amazing!
anybody know any nejihina arranged-marriage fanfics then?

[Salem]

Hey everybody~ :hoho

I wrote a small NejiHina arranged marriage one shot. It doesn't mention that its arranged, but, I find it sweet. I think you guys will enjoy it.

It is very short, considering I wrote it on a whim, and it isn't exactly perfect. It definitley is NOT my best work. I'll probably edit it later on, or make it into a FF. We'll see.

So, do I just post it here, or should I upload it somewhere, and put the link? :hoho




~NEWS! I have the link. I hope you like it. :hoho http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5316326/1/Arranged_By_Destiny_Drawn_In_By_Fate

[CynthiAngel]

beautiful, salem!!!
i loved it. it was amazing and made me smile. :) thanks so much for sharing it.

[Salem]

:hoho

I am very glad you enjoyed it~ :tem

I was hoping for this sort of reaction. smile-big

I feel like writing a few more one shots..I finished with the SasuNaru one (Link in my little spoiler tag in my signature) But I dunno what else. :hurr

[CynthiAngel]

hay, FC!
hmm...new discussion topic.
relating to NejiHina,
is it better to fall in love, or learn to love somebody (as in, they get an arranged marriage, but learn to love each other)?
weird question, i know.

AND...
what would neji and hinata fight about? (because all couples fight).

just new discussion topics, cause i'm bored... :)

[Cindy]

Falling in love is better. Learning to love is reminiscent to just "learning to tolerate" IMO. Or "learning to accept."

There are arguments where the "learn to love" concept starts off weak, but with time, it grows into the strongest, whereas "falling in love" starts out strong, but then the magic fades. I tend to not think that way, as it's generally a more "Nice Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy)" way of thinking.

Falling in love is seen more like following your heart. And learning to love? It's like, well, "I'm stuck here. Might as well. I guess."

[CynthiAngel]

i agree. i can't help but feel like "learning to love" is like having to settle for someone, not the person you really wanted.

[Esmereina]

Hmmm... you guys are teens right? i mean none of you have actually gotten married..right?

from personal experience.. i say learning to love is way better. falling in love getting married...if it ends up not working out...its all the same really...i have fallenin love and been with this perosn..only to find that this person fell out of love with me after 5 years and well...i am divorced now...

i dont see learning to love someone as settling...well from my perspective is giving someone a chance. if after a certain amount of time there is still no love.. you are still free to leave... hmm.. maybe i should say learning to love with limits...^^

But this is the thing with Nejihina... we all know how Hinata feels for Neji.. thats her "Ni-san" no matter what.. even if he kills her...she still sees him as her brother. I think its sweet..its very respectful..and it doesnt mean she sees him as an actual brother..but the term "Ni-san" can really be a term of endearment...or respect for that older male figure. I have noticed in lots of other anime where younger girls would call older boys "Ni-san" especially when they hold a special feeling for them.. sometimes its a result of romantic love. Its unclear in Hinata's case because its overshadowed by her crush on Naruto... (of which I feel has already resolved and she is moving on)

Now... Neji... well...yeah he would throw a hissy fit...but thats largely only because of the whole Hyuuga clan controlling him thing... I don't think it means he hates to be with Hinata.. in Actuality.. I believe Neji is conflicted with his feelings.

I think.. i am almost certain that Neji holds hidden romantic feelings for his Hinata-sama. He is really good at hiding it through out the years of holding a grudge against the mainhouse...now its hard for him to express it... But i think if he saw Hinata confessing to another in front of his eyes... He wouldn't take it... I think his "sister complex" would kick in somehow. Good thing he didn't see the confession then...^^;

So I think its possible for love to bloom between them... they had that first meeting..that suggests alot of things... can go in either direction..and an arranged marriage would sort of force Neji to confront his true feelings for Hinata...and for Hinata to re-evaluate her feelings for her Ni-san.

Its possible still...

but because Kishimoto sucks at romance writing.. he might just have them be ok with the marriage and the end for the Hyuuga... and then move on to Naruto becoming hokage with Sasuke by his side...XD :)

[Cindy]

Neji actually seemed fine with the fact that Hinata liked Naruto. He encouraged her to see him off when he left for his training, so I don't see how he would be jealous or upset by her confessing to him. :\

And while I haven't experienced learning to love vs. falling in love (mainly dealing with crushes, I am not a teenager, by the way) I still see "learning to love" more as just accepting what you have. When you "learn to love" someone, it's like they're kind of your only choice and you might as well just take it, especially if you're stuck in an arranged marriage.

And even if Neji doesn't hold any ill will towards Hinata, I think it would be overshadowed by his dislike of him being held down by the clan again, and I think Hinata would pick up on that and be uncomfortable and maybe hurt, maybe taking it that Neji doesn't like her. Hinata also doesn't like being pushed around by her clan, so I think she'd also have an initial problem with being forced to marry Neji (if they weren't in love at first) So if they were to get together, I'd want it to be because they love each other, not because they're forced together, and then eventually they warm up to each other.. and then fall in love. It seems so forced that way. So.. tolerant. And I really dislike the word tolerant. And it definitely goes against the idea of them breaking the rules of tradition, destiny, and fate. Oh, they're fated to be chained together in a union they don't want. They can't marry whom they want. Where's the freedom in that?

Since Neji and Hinata are characters who desire change and freedom, I think *first* they should fall in love. Or let them *choose* first to be together, not be tied down together first.

[Esmereina]

It can also be that its just a matter of difference in opinion.

I guess from my experience i just figure its all the same. Its not going to change any outcomes...meaning.. whatever is going to happen will happen..its nothing anyone can do to change the future...especially when we can't even predict it... its hard to change something you don't know needs to be changed yet...^^; although at times we can get hints.

but still.. Neji seemed....apathetic to it...i dunno.. i just saw something different with him when he told her to see Naruto off... I know he knows she likes him...but i am figuring he just sees it as a crush....I don't think he caught on about her confession yet. so.. its like hmmm.. its hard to describe..but its like when a brother has a "sister" complex... i seen it alot in anime at least..so i know its a possibility that Neji can still feel uneasy about the confession in itself eventhough in his mind he accepted her crush.

I still think NejiHina can happen..So i will never back down on my assumptions until the end of the manga...i can't believe i have to defend it in this club though...XD

I think its funny...:lmao

[Cindy]

It can also be that its just a matter of difference in opinion. True. Our interpretations of this manga are entirely subjective and differ due to our personal associations.

I guess from my experience i just figure its all the same. Its not going to change any outcomes...meaning.. whatever is going to happen will happen..its nothing anyone can do to change the future...especially when we can't even predict it... its hard to change something you don't know needs to be changed yet...^^; although at times we can get hints.
It's fun to speculate.

but still.. Neji seemed....apathetic to it...i dunno.. i just saw something different with him when he told her to see Naruto off... I know he knows she likes him...but i am figuring he just sees it as a crush....I don't think he caught on about her confession yet. so.. its like hmmm.. its hard to describe..but its like when a brother has a "sister" complex... i seen it alot in anime at least..so i know its a possibility that Neji can still feel uneasy about the confession in itself eventhough in his mind he accepted her crush.
Again, it's entirely subjective. I don't think he had any hidden sadness or anything inside when he told her to see her off. Neji's aware of her crush and he was merely nudging her along. We didn't see any bitterness or resentment regarding that crush.

He probably didn't realize it was love until after her confession when he said, "Why would you do such a thing?" Even after that, we still don't know how he felt. We knew he was impatient to HELP Naruto out after he and Pain took off. But that doesn't give us any information regarding his reaction to her confession. Damn Kishimoto for not fleshing out those Hyuuga.

I still think NejiHina can happen..So i will never back down on my assumptions until the end of the manga...i can't believe i have to defend it in this club though...XD

I think its funny...:lmaoI think it can happen, too. But I'm trying to approach it from a perspective that will benefit Neji and Hinata, rather than harm them. Personally, I think setting them up for an arranged marriage (which they wouldn't want) would do more harm than good, rather than having them fall in love first.

Oh, and you're not actually defending NejiHina. You're defending the notion of Learning to Love applying to NejiHina and I'm simply defending the notion of Falling in Love applying to NejiHina. No one is debating *against* NejiHina here. ;)

[Esmereina]

It's still felt i was defending myself though... lol eventhough it wasn't necessarily defending Nejihina as a whole.

I really just see it both ways... i actually think its sort of romantic to be in arranged marriage with someone you could potentially fall in love with... sometimes i think learning to love... can be similar to falling in love. As you spend more time with the person..you see thing in them more differently than before...

And with Neji.. thats pretty much apathy... since its not like emotionless..just non chalant about it... or just content to put it in better terms with hinata's crush.

I also take into account their age at the time and how old they are now...

Eventhough he said what you stated..I don't think he knew there was an actual confession..none of them knew of that.. they just know she jumped in to try to save Naruto..and Neji was questioning that... because no one but Naruto and Pain knew of her actual confession... so tahts where i am gettin the idea that he still doesn't know to what extent Hinata went through when she jumped into the scene like that.

i don't think your wrong in your presumptions... but i just also think my ideas are good too.

I don't really like to think people are "stupid" just because they see things differently than i do is all.

[Cindy]

It's still felt i was defending myself though... lol eventhough it wasn't necessarily defending Nejihina as a whole.

I really just see it both ways... i actually think its sort of romantic to be in arranged marriage with someone you could potentially fall in love with... sometimes i think learning to love... can be similar to falling in love. As you spend more time with the person..you see thing in them more differently than before... To each his or her own, then. I don't find it romantic at all. I see it as confining, and a dead end. Especially if it's forced arranged marriage and the option of divorce isn't there. (which would more than likely be the case) We agree to disagree.

And with Neji.. thats pretty much apathy... since its not like emotionless..just non chalant about it... or just content to put it in better terms with hinata's crush.

I also take into account their age at the time and how old they are now...

Eventhough he said what you stated..I don't think he knew there was an actual confession..none of them knew of that.. they just know she jumped in to try to save Naruto..and Neji was questioning that... because no one but Naruto and Pain knew of her actual confession... so tahts where i am gettin the idea that he still doesn't know to what extent Hinata went through when she jumped into the scene like that. Well, no. He really doesn't know why or how she got hurt at that time. Sakura was the one able to decipher that she did it because she loved Naruto. For all he knew, Hinata could have been injured by debris. *IF* he found out later that she did it for Naruto, then the discussion can continue.

IF he found out later, I'd like to assume that he'd be shocked by it, at what a length her feelings for him actually go for. Would I think he'd be jealous? Maybe. Maybe not. More than likely, I think he would be kicking himself because he wasn't there to protect her, since it was something he swore to do when he was 4. (Who knows if he resumed his swear to protect her after his issues with fate and destiny were solved. I'm assuming so)

i don't think your wrong in your presumptions... but i just also think my ideas are good too.

I don't really like to think people are "stupid" just because they see things differently than i do is all.
I don't think you're wrong, either. Just debating for the sake of it and seeing if we can iron out our ideas and get them across convincingly to each other.

There are no stupid ideas or arguments here. Who said people were stupid because they had a different view?

But back to the concept of "Learning to Love" I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen successfully and I've seen it happen unsuccessfully. Same for "Falling in Love." In my opinion, I think "Falling in Love" falls under Neji and Hinata more because it's not tying them down or forcing them to get together in the beginning when they may not want to, and fighting against destiny and such is such a strong point of Neji's character. Neji's fought all his life against being caged, and so has Hinata with her burden of not living up to the Main Branch. Why thrust upon them even more hardship by forcing them to get together? I'd much rather let it happen naturally. It'll feel less stifled, more free.

[CynthiAngel]

loved seeing this debate here. very intriguing. :)

very true. i believe that if they were thrust into an arranged marriage none of them wanted, neji would find it hard to accept the marriage because it's just another sign he's being controlled by his clan. he'd show resentment, perhaps?

[HyugaProdigy]

Need help in translation please..:ohpek

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[Nick Soapdish]

I've read/watched and enjoyed a few romances where the couple learn to fall in love. You can even sort of see Disney's Beauty and the Beast that way. So I think that it can work and it can be very warm, fuzzy and give you squishy feelings.

However, I can also agree that it's confining. It's not too people finding each other out of everybody in the whole world and learning to love each other. It's two people that are more or less stuck with the other as a choice and learning to love the other.

I'm not too well-connected with my own romantic side so maybe you can toss this whole next chunk out, but I think that a lot of falling in love (not necessarily a majority or anything) is learning to love the other. It's two people that are starting as friends and/or are physically attracted to each other and they're learning more about the other and how to get along and how to love each other. The difference is that they can choose to back away more easily if it is tough.

[Esmereina]

Yes Nick.. i am more inclined to that kind of learning to love too... Not necessarily confining you..but just giving that person a chance..and with the condition that is it doesn't work out well you can still back out and move on.

But there is something about the Neji and Hinata union that wouldn't make me think they would be joined forcefully..I do say that the catalyst would be the whole arranged marriage thing.. that would most likely be the issue that both would want to overcome in order to break the fate so to speak... but I think during the process of trying to break free from that arranged marriage..they might fall in love..or rekindle their childhood love for eachother at least... they may become the best of friends as a result while changing the Hyuuga Clan by their own merits... or they might just get married anyway.. not because they were told to... but because they ended up learning to love eachother by their own choice.

This is a scenerio i often dreamt about for them..^^;

[Cindy]

If it's an arranged marriage, especially regarding such a strict and traditional clan like the Hyuuga, I don't see any possibility of backing out [without serious ramifications]. :| That's what makes it so confining. Usually people in an arranged marriage don't have the luxury of "backing out whenever they want."

[Esmereina]

But thats where the whole Neji and Hinata seeks to change the Hyuuga Ways come into play..and thus in the process they could... "learn to love" or fall in love more so..because I know there was some kind of chemistry between them... it could very well be borderline cousin/lover kind if they circumstances play along those lines.

[Cindy]

But thats where the whole Neji and Hinata seeks to change the Hyuuga Ways come into play..and thus in the process they could... "learn to love" or fall in love more so..because I know there was some kind of chemistry between them... it could very well be borderline cousin/lover kind if they circumstances play along those lines.

While they desire to change the Hyuuga, them being forced into an arranged marriage is one of the very things they're fighting against (Clan oppression and removing their free will. This is *especially* strong in Neji's case) It would make a lot more sense if they *chose* to get married, rather than being forced together. Like, say, they develop feelings for each other and decide to get married.

It just seems very counter-productive to Neji especially - someone who is based on not being tied down by the will of the clan. It is the will of the clan, not of Neji nor Hinata to go into this arranged marriage. I think there is a possibility of chemistry between them, too.. but I'd prefer to see it come naturally. Actually, I'd prefer it if they had to fight their way *to* getting married.. seeing as how they're related and all.

There are ways to "learn to love" without bringing an arranged marriage into the equation.

[Esmereina]

Although i understand what you are saying, Still I am taking into account how the Hyuuga Clan potential operates. They seem to be like traditional Chinese clansmen whereas an arranged marriage between two cousins...despite their close blood relation..is most likely to happen. So if Hiashi briings it up... it wouldn't be farfetched idea coming from this clan in particular.

I almost a given to do it this way if Kishimoto wanted to display the Hyuugas on a "romantic" relationship form persay. I am think more of the lines of this happening because Neji and Hinata fighting against it would be the result..and I think Kishi would want to show that...

but still it can go both ways on the outcome.... they would fight it...but in the process also love eachother.. i mean just because they are fighting against an arranged marriage...doesn't mean they can't like eachother in the process either.

but it can also backfire.. its really on how Kishi wants the outcome to look if he chooses this kind of Hyuuga development.

[Cindy]

Although i understand what you are saying, Still I am taking into account how the Hyuuga Clan potential operates. They seem to be like traditional Chinese clansmen whereas an arranged marriage between two cousins...despite their close blood relation..is most likely to happen. So if Hiashi briings it up... it wouldn't be farfetched idea coming from this clan in particular.

I almost a given to do it this way if Kishimoto wanted to display the Hyuugas on a "romantic" relationship form persay. I am think more of the lines of this happening because Neji and Hinata fighting against it would be the result..and I think Kishi would want to show that...

but still it can go both ways on the outcome.... they would fight it...but in the process also love eachother.. i mean just because they are fighting against an arranged marriage...doesn't mean they can't like eachother in the process either.

but it can also backfire.. its really on how Kishi wants the outcome to look if he chooses this kind of Hyuuga development.

There are lots of variables we're taking into consideration here.

Yes, it's possible that they can fall in love (or learn to love) despite being forced together and thus choose to go on with the arranged marriage, but I think it's the very principle of fighting against fate and destiny that, to me, weighs more than the love that may or may not bloom, since change and freedom are such integral parts of their character. And like I said, I'd rather they fall in love/learn to love *before* being forced into a marriage. Even if they ARE forced into a marriage when they love each other, I still have a bone to pick with that.

It's like saying, "Oh, it's okay to force them into this arranged marriage anyway if they love each other!" No, it isn't okay. They're still being tied down by the clan if they did not choose to get married. If it comes to that they do love each other, one or both may not be necessarily ready for marriage. Especially an arranged one.

It's just my opinion that arranged marriages are so backwards.. designed completely for political means, and have very little to do with the emotions of the two people affected most. Neji and Hinata represent change and moving forward. I'd like to see them do away with the confining ways of tradition. The Hyuuga clan has to and will be changed (with or without Naruto's help, who promised to change the clan), and an arranged marriage is not the way to do it.

I feel like I'm just repeating myself, so we might as well just agree to disagree and move on.

[Nick Soapdish]

Arranged marriages aren't always political. In fact, based on a minute amount of research, I think that most aren't political at all. Many arranged marriages occur in less developed areas where many of the villagers may not ever travel from their home village. A villager might have a connection in a neighboring village so they arrange a hook-up because otherwise the village would be too interconnected. The only travel that the new couple may do is when one joins the new family.

Having said that, a Hyuuga arranged marriage would almost certainly be political. However, Neji and Hinata could get into a marriage where they learn to love each other. It could be a part of their own solution to change the Hyuuga and re-unite them. If they're forced into the marriage, it's a continuation of the problem, but if they choose it own their own, it could be part of the solution. Ironic, eh?

I'd be ok with that sort of marriage between Neji and Hinata although I I'd still rather them fall in love first. The other way just feels like putting the cart before the horse.

[Esmereina]

I just see that there are personal issues involved with the term "arranged marriage"...so its really dependent on the person's opinions. And i get that...i also felt i was repeating myself too..because I am trying to say what Nick basically is saying in the post above me.

You don't have to agree with arranged marriage and i understand if its uncomfortable...but looking at the manga from how the Hyuugas were portrayed vaguely it almost leads to a suggestion of an arranged marriage...whether we like it or not.

so thats where i am developing my idea from..its not necessarily that i like the idea.. its just that i see it sort of fits with Neji and Hinata's Hyuuga lifestyle and I am trying to find a way of how it would come out good for their relationship...eventhough there is other directions it can take...like utter disaster too...

Like i said before, Cindy, I dont think you are wrong. I am just wishing you would understand my point of view a little. I don't expect you to agree with arranged marriage because obviously it strikes a nerve with you...but at least the theoretical idea i have i just wanted to express as clearly as I could.. but I feel that I haven't ... It seems Nick explained it alot better than I could ever do.

^^ and smile..its just a debate.. you said it yourself..its nothing to feel upset about.

[Cindy]

I just see that there are personal issues involved with the term "arranged marriage"...so its really dependent on the person's opinions. And i get that...i also felt i was repeating myself too..because I am trying to say what Nick basically is saying in the post above me.

I don't actually have any personal vendetta against an arranged marriage. It's just something I see as outdated, especially where I live.

You don't have to agree with arranged marriage and i understand if its uncomfortable...but looking at the manga from how the Hyuugas were portrayed vaguely it almost leads to a suggestion of an arranged marriage...whether we like it or not.

Ah, but you see, it's been hinted that the Hyuuga are headed towards change, so the likelihood of an arranged marriage is starting to dwindle. Especially if Naruto becomes the Hokage, he promised to Neji he'd help change the Hyuuga. It's a clan set on tradition, and with Naruto (and maybe Hinata if she's allowed to lead) in power, I can see both of them doing away with the more harsh, confining traditions of the clan (branding and maybe arranged marriages)

so thats where i am developing my idea from..its not necessarily that i like the idea.. its just that i see it sort of fits with Neji and Hinata's Hyuuga lifestyle and I am trying to find a way of how it would come out good for their relationship...eventhough there is other directions it can take...like utter disaster too...

I think your side is more optimistic of the situation. I'm a bit more pessimistic. I also think I'm a bit more realistic in keeping in tune with the characters' personalities, but I don't think you're wrong, either. If Kishimoto decides to go the NejiHina route, anything is possible.

Like i said before, Cindy, I dont think you are wrong. I am just wishing you would understand my point of view a little. I don't expect you to agree with arranged marriage because obviously it strikes a nerve with you...but at least the theoretical idea i have i just wanted to express as clearly as I could.. but I feel that I haven't ... It seems Nick explained it alot better than I could ever do.

^^ and smile..its just a debate.. you said it yourself..its nothing to feel upset about.
I really wish I could understand your point of view, but I just don't see it being true or in accordance with Neji or Hinata's themes. That's all there is to it. Like I said, it doesn't strike a nerve with me. I'm not taking it personally. I've never been affected by arranged marriages before.

I got what Nick was saying, though, and for the most part I agree with him.

[Esmereina]

But you can't agree with me... eventhough I pretty much am saying the same thing...

XD

oh well..

[Cindy]

I guess because the way Nick phrased it, it seemed more in tune with my POV. ;P

Basically, yes, it can happen like you envision it, but we prefer they fall in love first.

[Esmereina]

I didn't say that I didn't prefer that though.. just making the case that what I brought up could happen if Kishi made it that way.

Its just falling in love and learning to love are all the same to me in my case... Its what i gathered from personal experience..thats all

I never said I disagreed with you.. i said many times I understood what you said and I didn't think you were wrong.. which means i agree... its just I wanted to get my point acroos as clearly as I could.

but whatever.. i am used to this kind of thing. no big deal.

[CynthiAngel]

let's stop arguing and look at this amazing vid. ;)

*squeals* the NEJIHINA-NESS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TNYiWAkyrk&feature=sub

hirochanthegentleman is an AMAZING vid maker. go sub to her right now! :]

[Nick Soapdish]

But you can't agree with me... eventhough I pretty much am saying the same thing...

XD

oh well..

Hey, you both agree with me so you agree! It's all good, then :P

I think that the distinction that I was making about how Neji and Hinata were the ones dictating the terms is important. It's still an arranged marriage and it's still a political marriage. But they're the ones that have arranged it (possibly beating others to the punch).

I don't think that part was made clear in your earlier posts about it.

[HiroChan]

I think.. i am almost certain that Neji holds hidden romantic feelings for his Hinata-sama. He is really good at hiding it through out the years of holding a grudge against the mainhouse...now its hard for him to express it... But i think if he saw Hinata confessing to another in front of his eyes... He wouldn't take it... I think his "sister complex" would kick in somehow. Good thing he didn't see the confession then...^^;

Damn straight. Kishi can just pick Team Asuma to "have a mission", but wow, why Team Gai? They could actually aid the people in Konoha but instead, they were sent on the mission and it was *kind of* timed that Neji had to miss the confession, and he himself suggested to Hinata on chapter 238 to see Naruto. =/ I'm not saying that Team Asuma is weaker than Team Gai, but I think only Chouji and his dad has at least done something to stop Pein's bodies or sth like that. Shikamaru suffered an injury, if I'm not mistaken. Or maybe that's just me and my bias.

Now... Neji... well...yeah he would throw a hissy fit...but thats largely only because of the whole Hyuuga clan controlling him thing... I don't think it means he hates to be with Hinata.. in Actuality.. I believe Neji is conflicted with his feelings.

EDIT! (forgot to reply to this ^ ^;):
Or maybe, not only Neji thinks that he can't bear to love her because of the things he did for all these years, and the fact that she "loves" Naruto and he's the only one who at least did something for her feelings even though her feelings for Naruto is kind of visible for Kurenai and Shino. I think he won't mind being with Hinata, but maybe he's just holding back the *possibly developed* feelings because:
a) they have their duties
b) if Hinata knew that he has feelings for her, things might be awkward around them, considering that Hinata most probably only sees Neji as her "nii-san" (for now, that is) because she's blinded by her admiration for Naruto, and she wouldn't believe that such a man like Neji would develop feelings for her

Yah, it's really fun to speculate, isn't it ^ ^;

So I think its possible for love to bloom between them... they had that first meeting..that suggests alot of things... can go in either direction..and an arranged marriage would sort of force Neji to confront his true feelings for Hinata...and for Hinata to re-evaluate her feelings for her Ni-san.

Okay then! Aha. Read my passage in my LJ on my view on their first meeting, on how Neji reminisced about it and all that. Hope it makes sense. ;33

And one thing that made me tick off with happiness; that Neji CLEARLY remembers their first meeting even though he's cold, harsh, rash, and all that. But Hinata, seems that she doesn't exactly remember it, or, she just doesn't value it.

He remembered taking a good look of her, and called her CUTE to his father, and he remembered the little promise he made to protect Hinata and the Hyuuga clan. Funny how he's the cold one, but he remembers such fragment of his past, whereas Hinata is gentle and sweet, but it seems she doesn't know or value this.

I just saw his reminiscence as a sign of what he SHOULD HAVE treated her if it were not for Hiashi activating Hizashi's cursed seal. He just showed that he'd treat Hinata differently if only the situation hasn't gotten worse. He would've FALLEN for her in my opinion, but because of Hiashi's activating of Hizashi's seal, and the pang in his heart in seeing his father in deep pain, Neji started to change, he valued Hizashi much more, yes. So his views changed. 'twas a waste, but I was happy he didn't let go of his first meeting with Hinata.

I posted this thing in one of the topics in HoU too, but I forgot where and I'd just like to share my insights on Neji reminiscing about his first meeting with Hinata. X3

@CynthiAngel:

LOL, me? ^^; Oh, you probably don't know, I AM HiroChanTheGentleman xDDD

:nuts Thanks. *tacklehugs* But subbing to me isn't really necessary now is it :'D;

[CynthiAngel]

*gasps* HIRO-CHAN!
your videos are amazing and i love them and i love that you make nejihina vids, because, lets face it, they don't get nearly enough love as they should.

*breathes* it's so awesome that you're on here!

scuse me for being fangirlish... :)

[HiroChan]

Awhs. :ohpek [blushes/] Thank you for your kind words, just doing my best to keep the faith and spread the love~ :3

[Teru♥]

Hiro, you're my hero! :ohpek I love that MMV to pieces. :<3

[HiroChan]

Awhs, thankies. :wtf I'll be NejiHina's HIRO forever, even IF the day shall come when I'm not into this wonderful pairing anymore :<3

BTW. Many NejiHina fanartists updated! I just discovered D00R (who made the fanart in my icon/siggy), she amazing! :ohpek

[ShyHinataSama]

http://fotolog.miarroba.com/f/7/8/8/4559788/90.jpg

[Teru♥]

Oh wow, that's awesome! I'll check it out. Gaaah, someone should make a new NejiHina album soon. The FC album got deleted. It's so frustrating. :arg Anyway, I was browsing through ShikaIno sites and I found this:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3976/1311t.png

^ OMFG, nosebleeding Neji never gets old! :X3

[HiroChan]

:hurr

Did I mention I love you, EM18? :<3

[Teru♥]

^ I already know that. :<3

[Esmereina]

I am so done with seeking love... :(


Love sucks! Damn it all!!!! :C


....

and nose bleeding Neji is canon! only in Hinata-sama's presence ofcourse! ^^ He is 16 now...^^ those hormones are on overdrive...hehehe

And I dunno how to update the FC sites thingy... is it under Hiro's jurisdictions or mine? i need to read the first page more clearer. :( im such a bad owner...

*paddles herself*

[Esmereina]

You guys suddenly stop talking here...*sigh*

shall I give over the leadership to someone else? If its because of me.. i don't want this FC to suffer.. i'd rather you guys have a leader you like.

i am tired of being hated for trivial matters.

[Cindy]

I don't think switching over to a new owner will make the FC more active. More NejiHina panels and screen time will make the FC active.

You're a very engaging person. I don't think you're doing a bad job at all with the FC! I wish more people were as enthusiastic about NejiHina (and Hyuugacest in general) like you. :)

Not many people can match your dedication, which is exactly what we need here.

Don't be so harsh on yourself, Esme <33

[Esmereina]

Mmm... i guess...but i still wish there was more things to do in this FC. I am just waiting for a hyuuga encounter in the manga will come sooner...hmm

maybe i should read a fic or two...^^;

<3

ill come back tomorrow...i should sleep now...XD

gnght Ciindy

[Cindy]

Hmm. How about we all compile some new Hyuugacest Fan Soundtracks? We can do a NejiHina one, HinaHana, HiaHiza, etc. :wtf That should take up some time until we get more Hyuuga fanservice!

Good night, Esme!

[CynthiAngel]

yeah! let's all recommend songs?

and esme- DON'T give up ur fc. you're a wonderful owner, and you lead this FC just fine. you're too harsh on urself! We <3 you!

hiro- D00R? new artist? i'll go look her/him up now...

I WANT GOOD NejiHina FICS. :cry

[Cindy]

Some tegaki.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/aozoract/tegaki%20finds/1251551939034290.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/aozoract/tegaki%20finds/1249157373455299.png

[Nick Soapdish]

Cindy's right. Most of it is just the lack of recent panel time to talk about.

I suppose there's always fanon stuff, but I don't look for NejiHina fanarts or fanfics very often.

[Winged Navi]

Hey there FC

I would be working on the last chapter of my NejiHina fic but college (and gamecube) has/ve been sucking up my free time. :hurr

[CynthiAngel]

Some tegaki.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/aozoract/tegaki%20finds/1251551939034290.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/aozoract/tegaki%20finds/1249157373455299.png

perdy!:nuts
especially the 2nd one.

[HiroChan]

Awhs, my new comp is still coming sometime next week, school has been torturing me to death, and I hope the new movie comes out soon, there are some scenes where they stand close to each other, just seeing then stand next to each other makes my heart melt, makes me see that the barricade between Main and Branch members are wilting :<3

[Cindy]

They also fight/do a combo move together.

[HiroChan]

Realleh? OMG. :ohpek

I can't wait to see it! :nuts

[AppleChan]

I hate it, that this FC dies a lot. :(

[HiroChan]

Lack of panel time, dearie, is the reason. This FC being dormant doesn't mean NejiHina is going with it. Because I'm here.

Besides, updates of Japanese NejiHina fanarts are surprisingly active. :)

[AppleChan]

Seriously? :wha Wow. :wtf I'd like a link for some of their arts.

[HiroChan]

Okay, sure! ^____^

numahayashi [or hekomi n.n]:

http://numahayashi.web.fc2.com/head2.html

pandakotta:

http://kao21.lomo.jp/top.htm

(updates overdrive! O___O Holy shiet.) amit:
http://muu.in/amit/top-e.html

Augh, I can't find the link to D00R's fanarts! T___T and I have little time to spare. I'll give you the link when time won't be against me, okay? :<3

[CynthiAngel]

:squee
I lOVE THE LINKS!
they were awesome.
*reps* thank you sooo much, hiro!

and...about the recent manga chap...
No neji...or hinata. dang, kishi. :mad. but sasuke's SO FAR GONE. who agrees with me?

[HiroChan]

U:

Damn straight.

[CynthiAngel]

he's just lost in his own dark abyss he dug out for himself.
woah. that sounded dark/serious. especially the word "abyss".

I WANNA SEE THE NEW MOVIE NOW. :(
he also got new eyes??? whattt??? and gaara crying. ohmagawd.

[Cindy]

Fake spoiler was fake.

[ReikaiDemon]

Ick, I always hated Sauseface, now, I hate him even maor

[Winged Navi]

Ugh I used to call him emo because I was just poking fun at his character.

Now it's srs.




Freakin' emo.

[CynthiAngel]

he is an emo.
i mean seriously. he's like "i'm gonna drown in my own hate cause no one loves me and this world sucks UGH."
god. *shoots him*.
:)

[Esmereina]

Why does he remind me of the Columbine kids... Saucegay is gonna go postal on innocent bystanders right? thats what hardcore emos do... :\

the movie spoiler was a fake? o_O

[Nick Soapdish]

I still like Sasuke. -

But I like him as a villain now instead of a hero. He's much more compelling than Pain or Nagato or any of the Akatsuki. (I also like Orochimaru's kick-the-antbed villainy.) I also liked Sasuke as a hero in part one, but I'm having trouble seeing him as just troubled or even just an anti-hero now.

[Cindy]

Why does he remind me of the Columbine kids... Saucegay is gonna go postal on innocent bystanders right? thats what hardcore emos do... :\

the movie spoiler was a fake? o_O

The movie spoiler was real. The one about Sasuke getting new eyes this chapter was fake.

As for Sasuke..


he's just.. so angsty right now. He's throwing a shitfit over revenge and thinks his case is special, when we've seen other characters go through just as nasty a hell as he has and were redeemed. And yet he goes on to say stuff like.. The deep blackness in his heart is so dark no light can get through! He cries crimson tears of blood as he vows to get revenge! Jeebus, it's like lyrics straight out of a Linkin Park or Evanescence song!

[HiroChan]

I, for one, am a HUGE Sasuke fan, but now he's just so...annoying as of now. He does have good eyes, but he doesn't use them properly, he's blinding himself with a black light. Augh.

Whoa, talking about Sauce in the HC FC? Well, the Uchiha did come from the Hyuuga so...it kinda makes sense? =/

[CynthiAngel]

hirochan, the...food in ur signature? it looks freaking yummy.

seriously i agree with you cindy. is kishi taking out all his emoness through sasuke? he mustve been listening to a Linkin Park song when he made the latest chap...

[CynthiAngel]

WAKE UP, FC! :shout

does anyone know any good Nejihina ff authors?

[Winged Navi]

ME
.........

[Karsh]

It's been so long FC!!! :glomp

does anyone know any good Nejihina ff authors?

I would definately suggest this fic, like I've suggested it before! :3

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2319208/1/Broken_Rules

And this is an awesome doujinshi-collection site, even though everyone here has probably seen them all already :ohpek

http://eutopic.ouvaton.org/az/spip.php?article3

Enjoy! :3

[roseminee]

Hi all!

Big fan of Neji and Hinata, and I'm actually trying to remember a fic about the two I read a long time ago. I think it was a one shot fic, but I could be mistaken. It was written all in Hinata's view.

All I can remember is that Hinata ends up in Neji's apartment, and they end up sleeping with each other. The main theme of the whole fic was things that weren't said. Or not knowing what Neji thought of their time together.

In the end he'd always assumed that she would not be going anywhere. She was staying with him. I think there was a ring involved...Like it was left on a table for her to find. And the final scene, I believe, was them going back to bed. The overall feeling was fluff.

I know the details are vague but any help you guys can give me would be well appreciated. I've been looking for this fic for a while now! I'm dieing to read it again!

Thanks in advance!

[HiroChan]

^

Oh, hi there! :wtf

I'll try and look for it, okay? ♥

[CynthiAngel]

^ the amazing person who posted above me made this badass vid below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbcPuW08gq8
c-c-c-c-check it OUT.

[HiroChan]

LOL DO NOT WANT. I'm not badass XD

[roseminee]

Thank you!

It's just been bothering me forever! It was such a good fic!

[Winged Navi]

Wrote a little NejiHina drabble a couple of days ago.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5444503/1/Drowning

[CynthiAngel]

LOL DO NOT WANT. I'm not badass XD

hahaa not baddass? hmm...AWESOME/AMAZING then?

[HiroChan]

^

:C

Nu.

X3

I am...a norm.

EDIT: So in the latest chapter, flashbacks showed that Neji and Hinata are beside each other again :awesome

[Esmereina]

I could have sworn they were holding hands too...^^:


i am really starting to see that Kishimoto loves to play... either that...or he is foreshadowing ...

they are seen besdie eachother again!!! AGAIN!!!! AAAGGGGAAAAIINNNNN!!!!

This is almost ludacris for two people who aren't teamates to be side by side this much and aren't actively doing anything to further the plot...this can only mean one thing...

HYUUGA WEDDING!!!!! :D

...yeah i am still dreaming...but I will stick by it... seems positive to me..^_^

[HiroChan]

The tension is over between the two, I can just feel it :high

[sweets]

NejiHina is sex, lemme join :awesome

[Esmereina]

@sweets: sure ...hopefully that wasn't a sarcastic smiley..^^;

[sweets]

Nah, really - it's sex even though i'm queesy on incest and ship opposing pairs, it's really not all that bad. I don't get much of the foundation for it but hey, it's aesthetic appeal and some of it's doujinshis are really cute. :hurr

[HiroChan]

^

Welcome then. :hurr Goodies are on the front page :wtf

Enjoy your stay in S.S. Hyuugacest~

[sweets]

Nejihinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa . <3

[Winged Navi]

Did anybody like my drabble...? ._.

[HiroChan]

^

I love it. :wtf

'tis simple, but it reflected so much of NejiHina.

[Esmereina]

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs47/300W/f/2009/235/c/2/Collab___Hinata_and_Neji_by_Zeppeli.jpg

This is from Zeppeli in Deviantart. Looks like its a collab with Ichigonee. I think its cute! ^_^

[RyuKen-O]

Okay, I'm gonna get this monkey off my back.

WHY THE HELL DO YOU LIKE NEJI?! I mean trying to kill Hinata and not apologizing after that and only thinking of himself. This Basterd doesn't deserve a second chance! So why do you people like him over even wanted to pair him up with the girl he tried to kill?:mad

[Nick Soapdish]

Okay, I'm gonna get this monkey off my back.

WHY THE HELL DO YOU LIKE NEJI?! I mean trying to kill Hinata and not apologizing after that and only thinking of himself. This Basterd doesn't deserve a second chance! So why do you people like him over even wanted to pair him up with the girl he tried to kill?:mad

Hello again.

It's a bit more polite to go into a thread and actually read some of the posts like those linked in the first page than just rage against the pairing. Or if that's too much trouble, you can still ask more politely.

Here's my answer from that page.

The first thing that has to come up in any discussion about NejiHina has to be "the incest thing". It's like a law.:P

So here's my thoughts on it.

I don't care.

In more detail, I'd like to note that incest is defined as being legally or socially taboo. So cousin marriage isn't always incest. It depends on the culture and nation.

Personally, I find the idea squicky. People in your family are off limits; people outside of it are fair game (within reason). And I've always considered my cousins as part of my near-immediate family, even though I don't know most of them all that well. So I wouldn't consider a relationship with any of my cousins.

OTOH, I could care less what other people do as long as all the parties are of the age of consent and actually consenting. After getting involved in the debates, I've read up a bit on cousin marriage and the evidence seems pretty conclusive that the genetic risk is marginal which dispenses with another possible objection. In theory, I'm that keen on imposing my morality on others (although I'm adept at finding loopholes on why it might be appropriate, such as banning smoking in public places).

But this doesn't say anything about why I'm for NejiHina. It just dispenses with a reason why I'm not against it.

This isn't really going to be much about their scenes together. Most of their interaction was during their fight in the chuunin exam and it ended with Neji trying to kill her which isn't really good evidence that they'd be good together.:smile-big Anyway, a lot of this is going to be really reading between the lines and not necessarily supported by the manga. (It isn't contradicted, but it's a matter of interpretation, even more so than usual.)

It starts with how I first "met" Neji.

I didn't start reading/watching Naruto from the beginning. I got into it over Christmas, watching a few episodes with a friend who is a real animaniac and was back in town for the holidays. It was kinda disjointed since he was working his way through the whole series and I could only hang out on evenings. So the first episode that I saw was when Naruto met Jiraiya and tried to get him as his teacher instead of Ebisu. Then I caught the match between Shikamaru and Temari. Then a few episodes of the fight between Gaara and Naruto. I didn't catch a solid block until Naruto's fight with Kabuto (and yeah, I missed the first part of that fight).

So the first time that I saw Neji was during the Rescue Sasuke arc. My impression of him was of the quiet, sensitive sort. He seemed introspective and probably the artistic sort. There was that line "Naruto, you have better eyes than I do" which was obviously not referring to physically, but the ability to see a person's heart. I actually kinda wondered why he was in the biz since he seemed out of place. His slim build and long hair probably contributed to my assumption. Plus, his fighting style was more graceful than the others'. Then that impression was capped off by his "death" in which he had such a beatific smile and was grateful for Naruto saving him from the darkness.

By this time, I'd managed to download most of the earlier stuff and started from the top. Not thinking of that darkness line above, I didn't really think much of it when he first appeared, although he seemed a bit out of character from what I'd remembered. But I had a real WTF moment when he had his match with Hinata. It was a real shock to see him as such a jerk. (Jerk doesn't really cover it, but this is a family-friendly board.) But the other half of the chuunin exam helped show me how he'd gotten from point A to point B in characterization, although it turned out that point B wasn't exactly where I thought it had been.

I still think he's a sensitive soul. Chibi Neji seems to reinforce that he started out as such. But the oppression of the two house system and the death of his father forced him to bury it deep. He doesn't let his soft side get exposed to many people - out of habit and out of fear. But one of those people is Hinata.

Because Hinata is safe. She's a sensitive soul on the inside and shows it on the outside. Really, it takes a certain kind of strength to keep that sensitivity in the face of people pushing her to be harder (although it probably got easier by Hanabi's apparent talent as a ninja). Despite all his insults to her, she never threw it back in his face. Instead, she tried to empathize with how he was suffering. He wasn't ready to hear it at the time, so he tried to kill her.

Moreover, she understands ... more than anyone, even Naruto ... what he's going through. She's always been perceptive to the feelings of others. She was the only one to realize what Naruto was going through. And she had even more chances to observe Neji, including the first time that either of them saw the curse seal in action. Heck, she told him that she knew what he was going through.

If anyone is going to mend Neji's soul, it'll be Hinata (or Naruto, but I really don't want to go there).:smile-big It's already on the mend, but I think it'll take more than the dual revelations of fate being changeable and his father's true fate. It's going to take time and care.

So that's why it's good for Neji. But that's only half of the equation.

Hinata has strength. She just doesn't have confidence. She's gained confidence from her match with Neji. And she's been inspired by Naruto to become better ... which isn't the same as having more confidence. She just needs somebody that's going to allow her to keep developing that confidence.

Neji isn't the only person that could be that person. (Lee also fits the bill, but I don't want to digress.) But he looks like a great choice now.

When he started out, he was a conceited jerk. He was the unquestioned leader of his team and had nothing but disdain for losers. But that all changed when Naruto rocked his world view.

He still doesn't show a whole lot of interest in interaction with others, like his team although he did help Lee with walking around once while he was recuperating. But he's less assuming.

He doesn't necessarily seem to have much respect for superiors still (although with Gai, can you blame him?), but now he's a team player. He volunteered for the "rescue Sasuke" arc and didn't seem to have any problems with taking orders from Shikamaru, despite his earlier contempt for him and the rest of Team 10.

I also like to think that he's taken his father's words to heart about needing to protect Hinata now that he's gotten off of his fate schtick. I don't think that he'd take the opportunity to stage a virtual coup. He seems willing to step into the spotlight or stay in the shadows, whichever is needed.

He's also the only character that's shown any interest in Hinata's interests. Lots of characters have shown concern for her well-being. But none have cared about what she cares about (not counting Shino in filler). Admittedly, that interest was Naruto, but he showed interest and didn't make fun of her for it.

It's not a lot on why it's good for Hinata, but this is already a really long post and it's getting late so it'll be enough for now.

[RyuKen-O]

Hello again.

It's a bit more polite to go into a thread and actually read some of the posts like those linked in the first page than just rage against the pairing. Or if that's too much trouble, you can still ask more politely.

Here's my answer from that page.

I'm not raging about the pairing. It's the character (Neji) that I'm most pissed at. For me, I need to see more proof that he cares about Hinata. (441 doesn't count.)

[Nick Soapdish]

I'm not raging about the pairing. It's the character (Neji) that I'm most pissed at. For me, I need to see more proof that he cares about Hinata. (441 doesn't count.)

Ok then. Go back and read my post.

There's some evidence that he cares about her. If you want absolute proof, they aren't in the manga that much and around each other even less so we don't have a lot of scenes to work from. Almost certainly not enough to convince a Neji-hater. But I think it's pretty significant that he showed interest in Hinata's own interests, especially since he's the only one that's done that in the manga.

And if you're not raging against the pairing, you need to go back and re-think your post because you specifically mentioned the pairing.

[Winged Navi]

Besides, you already hate him enough, so even if people try to convince you otherwise you won't change your mind. What's the point.

[KikyouBlossom]

Joinage please? I love NejiHina. :love

[Nick Soapdish]

Joinage please? I love NejiHina. :love

Welcome to the fan club!

It's great to have more fans around here. Esmereina will add you to the member list when she checks in.

[Esmereina]

I'm on it! :) lol hehehe Nick is my bodyguard. <3

and I won't even respond to that post since Nick already did it...^_^

[HiroChan]

Okay, I'm gonna get this monkey off my back.

WHY THE HELL DO YOU LIKE NEJI?! I mean trying to kill Hinata and not apologizing after that and only thinking of himself. This Basterd doesn't deserve a second chance! So why do you people like him over even wanted to pair him up with the girl he tried to kill?:mad

Didn't even notice this :LOS

Awww :c His way of apologizing was to be more POLITE to her. You can be forgiven without even saying sorry. Actions speak louder than words; he didn't kill Hinata because of the reason he "hates" her, he sees her as a member of the Main Branch, which was the only absolute thing he despised. In a way, he took out his anger on the Main Branch through Hinata but then he atoned for his misdeed. :facepalm

If you notice the way he wears his clothes right now, it leans more to the average Hyuuga outfit; meaning, he's become more in touch with his clan, and he misunderstood the situation; he was young and his father was taken from him, the truth wasn't said to him way earlier, it gave him a bad impression. He LIVED a misunderstood childhood because he wasn't exposed to the truth. I'm not saying that it's Hiashi's fault for not telling Neji earlier either.

If you want proof that he cares for her; FINE. Chapter 238, he encouraged her to go see Naruto before he takes off in his journey. It shows that he is aware of her feelings and he's helping her get some tension off her chest; but I'm not saying he's an NH fanboy either ...ugh :pek. It only shows that he cares for her and her feelings; her well-being, he wants to see her smile, he was the only one who did something about Hinata's feelings for Naruto. (Save Kurenai; she's a woman who has affections for someone as well; and for a usually cold Neji to suggest her as such, and to flash a genuine smile at her after that is NOT what we usually see in the everday Neji, much less for a "spoiled" Main Branch member like Hinata.)

441 is also proof that he cares for her; I've never seen him freak out like that; much less for a girl [because the Water Prison Scene didn't happen in the manga :LOS] / Main Branch member; it's amazing how truth can bring two people closer, no?

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Anyway, why flame here in this FC about Neji? :facepalm

[Esmereina]

you know what funny about how people want their pairings to happen?

I have noticed this.. most just want the words....but a true pairing follows with action... or rather..its the action itself that holds true value to any canon pairing...

This is why i like Nejihina.. its more of an action that speaks louder than words... Neji is the type of guy to do that... Hinata... well she looks like she is on the word part..but she is also an action type too...now that she is basically resolved with her feelings for Naruto..i feel she will most likely move on... :)

[HiroChan]

you know what funny about how people want their pairings to happen?

I have noticed this.. most just want the words....but a true pairing follows with action... or rather..its the action itself that holds true value to any canon pairing...

This is why i like Nejihina.. its more of an action that speaks louder than words... Neji is the type of guy to do that... Hinata... well she looks like she is on the word part..but she is also an action type too...now that she is basically resolved with her feelings for Naruto..i feel she will most likely move on... :)

Oh, damn straight. It's a pairing that doesn't needs words to reflect change in their relationship; external and internal.

[laughingstick]

hey! i'd like to join please :D

i call myself a nejihina fan and yet i have not joined this fc despite being a NF member for quite some time! *ish ashamed* :ano

[KikyouBlossom]

hey! i'd like to join please :D

i call myself a nejihina fan and yet i have not joined this fc despite being a NF member for quite some time! *ish ashamed* :ano
Welcome! :thumbs

[Lady Azura]

Here's some fan art~!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/Naruto_Fan_101/Naruto/Couples%20and%20Groups/10.png

[HiNaTaRoX!]

I love NejiHina. Could I join? Can't believe I haven't asked already.

[HiroChan]

^

Welcome! Esmereina will add you to the member's list once she goes back on.

I MISS EVERYONEEEEEEEEEEEE!

And, GUYS GUYS. Kyaaa~ This is regarding the fan book cover.

http://www.naruto10th.com/nablog/upimg/227_1.JPG

It's "strange" that only Neji and Hinata are seemingly raising their heads up; looking up to the heavens; the others are only like looking to their sides; but these two; UP! To the heavens! xD to the sun, to the skies that they'll soar through together.

Yay for cheesiness of truth XD

Btw, new video from me!

[NejiHina] -Love Story- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRRYIw7iYYk)

YT screwed up the timing though :cry

[Yuibo]

Joinage, please? NejiHina is so much love :ohpek

[KikyouBlossom]

Welcome! NejiHina is love. :ohpek

[HiroChan]

^

Indeed it is 8D

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OH FC, WHY SO INACTIVE :scry

If pplz would like, check out my newest video.

Link to video is in sig :D

[HiroChan]

Inactive FC is inactive. :[

[CynthiAngel]

awwww.
HEY THERE, HIROCHAN!!
happy late new year, everyone! :)

[sweets]

Hai thar. :hurr Hyuugacest :iria

[Drathe]

May I join? :33

[HiroChan]

^

Of course! Welcome! Esmereina will add you in the FC once she comes on <3

[KikyouBlossom]

Welcome Drathe! :)

This FC needs more activity. :C

[Barby]

NejiHina :ohpek

[KikyouBlossom]

More NejiHina please! :ohpek This FC needs to live!

Anyone found any good fanart or anything?

[HiroChan]

I found LOTS.

:D

Give me time to upload them ;3

[KikyouBlossom]

Oh yay! :clap I can't wait. :wtf

[Barby]

NejiHina fanart make me happy :WOW

[PoisnousPixie]

Hello, I'd like to join if that's at all possible?

[KikyouBlossom]

Of course it's possible! Welcome! :clap

[Teru♥]

Oh gosh, this place is dead. :scry

[KikyouBlossom]

I know, it's sad. :scry

[HiroChan]

Ugh...I'll try reviving this place, I'll post the pictures tomorrow :salute

[PoisnousPixie]

It's so quiet... I think.... there should be talking... lol

[Barby]

I don't want this FC to die :(

[KikyouBlossom]

I don't want this FC to die either. :( Where are those pictures? :pek:gun

[Winged Navi]

It's a day late, and it's an old fic so I'm just posting it to help the FC live. :>
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3394993/1/My_Kind_of_Chocolate

[PoisnousPixie]

It's so cute, Winged Navi!

We all need a subject to talk about, because this silence really isn't good, ne?

[HiroChan]

I don't want this FC to die either. :( Where are those pictures? :pek:gun

OMG! I'M SO SORRY! I'M CURRENTLY UPLOADING THEM! SO BUSY IN SCHOOL, YOUTUBE, VIDEOS, AND ALL! WILL EDIT!

[CynthiAngel]

Heyyyyy, guys!
whas been goin on in the world of NejiHina?

[HiroChan]

Not much, trying to upload the pics but photobucket is failing on me -.-

I'm currently making an amv, and I'm loving the progress so...o:

[Birdwell]

Can I join? Neji/Hinata is one of my otps. :ohpek

[HiroChan]

^

no prob :D

Esme-chan will add you in the list when she comes on. Enjoy the goodies on the first page!

n__n

[KikyouBlossom]

OMG! I'M SO SORRY! I'M CURRENTLY UPLOADING THEM! SO BUSY IN SCHOOL, YOUTUBE, VIDEOS, AND ALL! WILL EDIT!
LOL, it's okay. :P I was just making sure you didn't forget. :hurr

[XAnime27FreakX]

Can someone help me witha little delima? ^-^;

I'm making a NejiHina viddy and I don't have many filler episodes so if someone can name like 10 or so big episodes with good NejiHina moments that'd be awesome and um my names not on the members list too. o////o

[Esmereina]

Ok guys.. sorry i haven't been on in a whie.. O_O

forgive me! OTL.. I have been obsessed with Hetalia and did like lots of shyt wth that... heh.. but I am still a Naruto fan..and ofcourse a Hyuugacest fan! ^_^

I have updated the member list.. if you don't see your name.. let me know! :)

Welcome new members! <3 I am happy to see the Nejihina and Hyuugacest love spreading still!..

Ohhhhh..and I found something interesting in the latest chapter..but I will wait a few days before discussing it.. I am sure you guys will squeal... ^_^

Maybe... some of you already know what I am talking about? <3


@Anime27Freak : hmmm.. i only know of two filler episodes... but at the moment i dont remember he numbers.. OTL... maybe I should note it on the first page once I find out.. O_O

what do you think, Hiro-chan?

[HiroChan]

Ohhhhh..and I found something interesting in the latest chapter..but I will wait a few days before discussing it.. I am sure you guys will squeal... ^_^

Maybe... some of you already know what I am talking about? <3

:hurr

lol yes, Neji and Hinata, why are you two hiding...


what do you think, Hiro-chan?

@Anime27Freak;

Hmmm...I guess... episodes 197 - 199 had some NejiHina-ish moments, Neji calling for Hinata's asisstance, the two of them sitting beside each other, and the two of them leaving the Academy leaving a staring Naruto, and jumping up together to view Konoha <3

And 148; the most popular filler episode with NejiHina.

151; Neji smiling to Hinata.

Hope that helps p;

[Sanae]

I'm sorry to say, that the link doens't work... why?

I was absent for a while.. now I wanted to look at some pictures, and how disapointing, the links don't work. Please update your information :(

*lips quivers* *bursts out crying* :cry :cry :cry

I can't believe it! It really is her! I've finally received confirmation. This:

http://k13.skr.jp (blog (http://k13.sblo.jp)) is the artist of Hidden Youth 365! It really is her, she's back! Waaaaaah! :scry

And HOLY COW SHE STARTS OUT "COLORING" WITH GREYS!!!! :faint

Oh, Happy Birthday Hyuugafan! I hope you've enjoyed your day! The confirmation that the artist of Hidden Youth is back certainly made mine! :amuse :love

[HiroChan]

I'm sorry to say, that the link doens't work... why?

I was absent for a while.. now I wanted to look at some pictures, and how disapointing, the links don't work. Please update your information :(

Sure sure! Give me some time, okay? I still have to work on videos =3

[lariik]

Add me, please! :)
I like NejiHina! I have one good fanfiction from my friend, Aife. Its like present for you.

I love it. The staccato of the three simple syllables pronounced with such passion in my voice. HI-NA-TA. The longing sigh of the first, the soft caress of the second, and the hit with tongue of the third. Hinata. I have no idea how many times I have repeated your name, my beloved, at those dreamless nights, which were filled with my despairing whisper. HI-NA-TA. Three syllables of desire and pain torturing me. Hinata...
You do not know how mesmerising your name is. My mantra is sung at dawn. You never realized it; either noticed that the way I call you is far too intimate. Forbidden fruit I want to taste.
My love for you is an endless torment. How painful it is, I cannot even tell. How badly it hurts, when I look at my reflection in a mirror seeing those same white orbs... The very same haunting eyes I adore, but in my face. The very same paleness of our skins, the very same thin lips; it all reflects in the mirror reminding me the close relation between us. And everything is ruined by a green mark on my forehead.
I am your cousin slave. Nothing less and nothing more.
I keep an ambivalent affection for you treasuring it in my tormented mind, only showing the one side, the burning hatred you know too well.
But I must confess my sins, Hinata.
I fell for my goddess heart and soul hating her, wanting her fall.

[HiroChan]

Add me, please! :)
I like NejiHina! I have one good fanfiction from my friend, Aife. Its like present for you.

I love it. The staccato of the three simple syllables pronounced with such passion in my voice. HI-NA-TA. The longing sigh of the first, the soft caress of the second, and the hit with tongue of the third. Hinata. I have no idea how many times I have repeated your name, my beloved, at those dreamless nights, which were filled with my despairing whisper. HI-NA-TA. Three syllables of desire and pain torturing me. Hinata...
You do not know how mesmerising your name is. My mantra is sung at dawn. You never realized it; either noticed that the way I call you is far too intimate. Forbidden fruit I want to taste.
My love for you is an endless torment. How painful it is, I cannot even tell. How badly it hurts, when I look at my reflection in a mirror seeing those same white orbs... The very same haunting eyes I adore, but in my face. The very same paleness of our skins, the very same thin lips; it all reflects in the mirror reminding me the close relation between us. And everything is ruined by a green mark on my forehead.
I am your cousin slave. Nothing less and nothing more.
I keep an ambivalent affection for you treasuring it in my tormented mind, only showing the one side, the burning hatred you know too well.
But I must confess my sins, Hinata.
I fell for my goddess heart and soul hating her, wanting her fall.

Welcome! Esmereina will add you once she comes on.

:ohpek:ohpek:ohpek lovely fanfiction. So amazing!

//edit;

updated the links on old Hyuugacest sites. Trying to find new Hyuugacest sites as we speak! :D

[xXxDeathxDiexDayxXx]

Joinage please. . .

[BrightandDim]

Join pleease. :hurr

[HiroChan]

Welcome to the bandwagon xXxDeathxDiexDayxXx and BrightandDim! Esmereina will add you in the members' list once she gets on. Enjoy the goodies on the first page! :D

[Starr]

NejiHina fanfics are my favorite :ohpek

[HiroChan]

NejiHina fanfics are my favorite :ohpek

They're quite alluring and hypnotizing in the unique way. The beauty of angst and subtlety. You read Sintari's fanfics? They're enough to put you under the NejiHina spell.