Neo (The Matrix) Vs Superman.

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Rules:-

1- Both have the same speed.
2- Fight takes place in a neutal universe where both of their powers work.

What do you think ?. I think Neo wins (I'll elaborate later).

[Endless Mike]

Does Neo get the ability to control reality?

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Yes he does.

[jplaya2023]

Yes he does.

so he wins, he just banishes superman somewhere else and removes his powers.

[BRANCHEAD33]

well if he does then sadly *cries for hours*

superman loses

[kenpachibankai]

so he wins, he just banishes superman somewhere else and removes his powers.

WHOZA? When has Neo ever done this?

[Thanatos]

Neo was never that powerful in the Matrix.

However, if they're in a neutral universe, and they're going at the same speed, then supes has little to no defence against what Neo can do.

[Tower Bridge]

Well if their powers are balanced then it will be close.
Superman has eye lasers, but Neo has martial arts moves. Hmm...
I think Superman would take it, but it could swing either way.

[Comic Book Guy]

Neo is a reality warper, but a SEVERELY limited one.

Assuming this takes place where both retains their powers, Superman wins.

[BRANCHEAD33]

if no reality warping then supes

neo is no way near as fast strong and supes has more moves

[Thanatos]

@Branchhead

Rules:-

1- Both have the same speed.
2- Fight takes place in a neutal universe where both of their powers work.

What do you think ?. I think Neo wins (I'll elaborate later).

[Comic Book Guy]

I know, but Superman has other powers that can assist him, however.

[Thanatos]

@CBG: That was aimed at Branchhead, not you.

Seeing as he is the one who stated:

neo is no way near as fast strong and supes has more moves.

As lacking as the syntax and grammar in that sentence is, I still vaguely understood enough to comment on it. :nod

[Kamen Rider Godzilla]

Superman takes this. The only good Matrix movie was the first one. Neo should have been MUCH more powerful than they made him out to be in Reloaded and Revolutions. Neo doesn't know about Superman's weakness to kryptonite, so he can't use that against him. Neo isn't invulnerable, so Superman can just impale him on something. Neo may be as fast (which is bullcrap, there was no way he was Superman's speed, but I guess for fairness it is ok), be is not as strong as Supes. Superman FTW.

[Thanatos]

Any idea why people are posting in the copy of this thread instead of this one?

[Enclave]

Any idea why people are posting in the copy of this thread instead of this one?

I posted in the other one because I didn't see this one. What I said in that one is still my opinion though.

If this is The Matrix Neo then he wins because he is heavily implied to have vast reality warping capabilities while within the Matrix. If it is Neo from the sequals he loses because he got downgraded big time.

[Kamen Rider Godzilla]

It's Neo. He was the same power in The Matrix as the other movies, because it's the same guy. It isn't like Pre Crisis and Post Crisis Superman, where they were two different versions of the character, this is the same character, his power doesn't change. That's like saying so and so can move a planet because it implied he could in one comic , then someone says he can't and proves it by showing a scan from a following comic showing he has no where near that level of power, and then you saying well that doesn't count because he wasn't as powerful as they implied he was in your comic.

[escamoh]

I posted in the other one because I didn't see this one. What I said in that one is still my opinion though.

If this is The Matrix Neo then he wins because he is heavily implied to have vast reality warping capabilities while within the Matrix. If it is Neo from the sequals he loses because he got downgraded big time.
can you give an example of how he got downgraded? :huh

[Enclave]

can you give an example of how he got downgraded? :huh

In the first once he realised he was the one he was supposed to be able to break all the rules of the Matrix and essentially do whatever the hell he wanted. He goes from being able to literally jump inside a program and do whatever the hell he wanted to it to being simply able to bend rules the same way the programs are allowed to.

He should of been invincible in the Matrix, however that doesn't make for a good protagonist so they downgraded him to make him vulnerable. Of course the movies sucked anyways so downgrading him didn't help. They should of left it at just the first movie.

[Kamen Rider Godzilla]

Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that he isn't all that powerful, and that Superman takes this. You can't not use the second and third movies just because they sucked and he was weak (I agree, he should've basically been God inside the Matrix), the Neo in the first movie still has the same level of strength he showed in the second and third movies, even if it wasn't as much as it should've been. Although, we can't really say that, because the only evidence we have that he should be that powerful was what Morpheus and other characters said, and it was already shown in the sequals that their info about the past and such isn't really accurate. So Neo might not have been downgraded at all, just that the other characters had the idea that he was much more powerful than he truly was.

[Reznor]

If this is The Matrix Neo then he wins because he is heavily implied to have vast reality warping capabilities while within the Matrix. If it is Neo from the sequals he loses because he got downgraded big time. Obviously that interpretation was wrong.

Superman wins this, unless Neo gets some reality warping powers. I'm staying out of the discussion of wheter or not he'd get them XD

[Orion]

he was supposed to have them.....but then they decided to forget that and just make him really strong instead of a god in the matrix lol.

[Adjective-Noun]

Supposedly, Neo makes his own rules about the Matrix.

If that assumption holds true, then he wins because he says so.

[Comic Book Guy]

That is true.

To an extent.

Neo is a reality warper in the Matrix, but he's a SEVERELY limited one.

Superman still most likely wins.

[Kamen Rider Godzilla]

We can't use the fact that he is supposed to be all powerful. We don't truly know. For all we know, Neo could be as powerful as he is supposed to be. The only reason we think he is supposed to be that is because Morpheus and other characters said he was, and they were already proven to not know the truth about the past. The prophecy was wrong, so their idea of what Neo's powers are is also probably wrong, considering he is no where near the level he "should" be. Which means Superman takes this.

[Vynjira]

I will say this, Neo's will was proven to be a factor in his ability to prevent himself from dyeing in the Matrix. He could chose not to die, which in the conclusion of the 3rd movie was confirmed yet again. So in theory he could continuously revive himself until Superman tires, however I highly doubt thats gonna spell a win for Neo. Just pointing out that Neo does have the ability to prevent his own death.

[Kamen Rider Godzilla]

Neo died in third movie. If you've played The Matrix: Path Of Neo, the Watchowski Bros (I know I spelled that wrong) explain how he chose martyrism to overcome the choice thingy. So he did die, and the Oracle saying they'd see him again was most likely a metaphor, like Jin in 666 Satan saying he'll see his parents again.

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Neo wins.

Power: Superman has greater strength but Neo is a reality warper. Reality warping >> Great strength.

Speed: The both have the same speed for this fight (See 1st post).

Neo wins this easily.

[Comic Book Guy]

Though, the Matrix Online so suggests other things. . .

Neo wins.

Power: Superman has greater strength but Neo is a reality warper. Reality warping >> Great strength.

Speed: The both have the same speed for this fight (See 1st post).

Neo wins this easily.

To clarify, Neo is a SEVERELY limited reality, one of the most limited in fiction, that I know.

Superman most likely wins.

[Enclave]

Though, the Matrix Online so suggests other things. . .



To clarify, Neo is a SEVERELY limited reality, one of the most limited in fiction, that I know.

Superman most likely wins.

He didn't seem all that limited in the first Matrix movie, only in the sequals.

Anyways, MXO has strongly pointed towards Neo reviving from what I have heard so he probably is immortal within the Matrix.

[Kamen Rider Godzilla]

Even if he can revive, he still loses. Superman can easily over power him, all he has to do is keep killing him. Superman can just keep killing him for eternity. Neo has never shown strength strong enough to take Superman on, and his reality warping is going to do nothing to defeat Superman, if he can't even defeat a few programs whom Superman could take out in a single punch, how he can use it to defeat Superman?

[Adjective-Noun]

Because Neo doesnt fight Superman. He spouts enough philosphical crap to make even Supermans brain explode. Then he goes on an excellent adventure in a phone booth.