The Brain vs Shounenverse

[Giovanni Rild]

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We all know that Brain can conquer earth in 1 day.

Brain has: The element of surprise. and a dimensional gate to every shounenverse.


Does Brain rule the shounenverse?

Pinky is dead

[Comic Book Guy]

Hmm. . . possible, but unlikely.

A super-smart Pinky was able to point out the flaws in Brain's plans that would eventually lead to failure.

If Brain could rebuild the machine that made Pinky super-smart, he'd would most likely win.

[Neji]

Pinky's stupidity always messed up Brain's plans and since shounenverse has the likes of Luffy, Naruto ect.. He wouldn't be able to win

[Giovanni Rild]

Pinky's stupidity always messed up Brain's plans and since shounenverse has the likes of Luffy, Naruto ect.. He wouldn't be able to win

Pinky is dead
Pinky is dead

[kenpachibankai]

You'd better ban omnipotents or Oh! My Godess! can and will fuck him up.

[Comic Book Guy]

Still, Brain's plans did have flaws which prevented success, as pointed out in one episode by a super-smart Pinky.

[Giovanni Rild]

You'd better ban omnipotents or Oh! My Godess! can and will fuck him up.

Oh! My Goddess! is shounen?

[kenpachibankai]

Oh! My Goddess! is shounen?

ANN.com says so.

[Neji]

Pinky is dead

i said Luffy and Naruto rival Pinky's stupidity, which will still foil Brain's plans

[The Anti-Existence]

Brain comes up standardly with a new scheme every episode. So, while Pinky may have pointed out the flaws of certain plans, it does not mean all plans of The Brain's are flawed.

Pinky is an ally of The Brain ans "assists" in his plans which thwarts him. I don't think Naruto and Luffy are allies and thus not part of his plan. They'll be screwing up their own sides' odds.

Brain has actually succeeded a couple times. His plan to conquer the States through Pinky worked till technical errors screwed it up. His conscience was the only thing preventhing him from winning in the Christmas special. He simply went out shopping and eating and became imensely popular with thousands which shows his charisma. He could easily gain a popular following to aid him in his scheme.

[Comic Book Guy]

Understandable.

Damn, I wish the show was still on.

When they added Elmyra, it went down the drain.

[Vynjira]

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We all know that Brain can conquer earth in 1 day.

Brain has: The element of surprise. and a dimensional gate to every shounenverse.


Does Brain rule the shounenverse?

Pinky is dead http://images.brucelaing.com/tw/villains/snowball.jpg

Snowball Takes This.

[Comic Book Guy]

Please. Brain's former crush > both of them.

[The Anti-Existence]

Snowball always started on top but Brain managed to best him in the end.

Didn't Brain once go commando in a jungle?

[Vynjira]

Snowball always started on top but Brain managed to best him in the end.

Didn't Brain once go commando in a jungle?

Brain only best Snowball once and it wasn't in any of the first few seasons, it was towards the very last aired episode. I also remember Snowball giving up. Meanwhile during the entirety of the series any appearance he made he took over the World and Brain was left feeling inadequate.

[The Anti-Existence]

Still. Snowball never showed half the brainpower of Brain. Mainly due to the fact he wasn't a frequent character. Brain came up with a larger variety of schemes and plans in multiple timelines (he was back in Earlty 20th Century Russia, 17th Centurty England and more) as well as all over the world and always managed to concoct a scheme. Only time I think Snowball was ever featured in an early timeline was the 1940s one where Brain's and his girlfriend beat them both just to get Pinky.

So, while he did have more success than Brain, he didn't show he had the range of mind Brain had.

[Vynjira]

Still. Snowball never showed half the brainpower of Brain. Mainly due to the fact he wasn't a frequent character. Brain came up with a larger variety of schemes and plans in multiple timelines (he was back in Earlty 20th Century Russia, 17th Centurty England and more) as well as all over the world and always managed to concoct a scheme. Only time I think Snowball was ever featured in an early timeline was the 1940s one where Brain's and his girlfriend beat them both just to get Pinky.

So, while he did have more success than Brain, he didn't show he had the range of mind Brain had.

Effectiveness(Snowball) VS Creativity(Brain), I'm goin with Effectiveness.

[Thanatos]

Does he need to have pinky with him? Because Pinky really is just an anti-DEM most of the time...

[Vynjira]

Does he need to have pinky with him? Because Pinky really is just an anti-DEM most of the time...

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VS

We all know that Brain can conquer earth in 1 day.

Brain has: The element of surprise. and a dimensional gate to every shounenverse.


Does Brain rule the shounenverse?

Pinky is dead

Made it easier to read for ya ^^;

[Thanatos]

Made it easier to read for ya ^^;

:laugh

In all fairness, it was 12:30am when I read that (and I'd been working for the past 9.5 hours).

[G-Man]

I don't know why people keep bringing up Snowball when Brain is going to be in entirely different universes where Snowball can't follow.

And Brain eventually loses. Granted, some of his plans succeed, but that's mostly because the humans of his Earth are incredible dumbasses. Those plans that succeed largely based on his own merit and few and far between. Sooner or later he's gonna fail in such a way that some shounen hero is going to discover his existence, and he/she is going to put him in a near inescapable cage or just plain kill him, depending on just which shounen hero catches him.

Also, he runs the risk of running into one of those shounen heroes who always inspires the bad guy, no matter how evil he was before, to give up his villainous plans.

[Sasori]

^ lol Naruto will use his uber "make a friend" powers.

[Thanatos]

The will of fire converting Brain would definitely be a low point, but if it ever happens to Itachi I'm quite sure I'll just stop reading. :nod

[G-Man]

The will of fire converting Brain would definitely be a low point, but if it ever happens to Itachi I'm quite sure I'll just stop reading. :nod

Naruto - *whispers* Kuchiyose no jutsu!

*poof, Brain appears*

Brain - *sigh* What now?

Naruto - Well, I'm finally taking the Chunin Exam again, and... how do you answer this question?

Brain - Gods, I actually miss Pinky... :cry

[Vynjira]

I don't know why people keep bringing up Snowball when Brain is going to be in entirely different universes where Snowball can't follow.Because it was a common occurrence for Brain to show up with his plan to take over the world only to see Snowball had already taken it over.

So like I said Snowball, as Brain will show up and alas there will be Snowball already own'in the entire Shounenverse.Also, he runs the risk of running into one of those shounen heroes who always inspires the bad guy, no matter how evil he was before, to give up his villainous plans.Not likely, Snowball was evil. Brain wasn't infact quite a few of Brain's plans had to be put on hold so he could save the world only to enslave it tomorrow.

[G-Man]

Because it was a common occurrence for Brain to show up with his plan to take over the world only to see Snowball had already taken it over.

Yeah, but this topic was about Brain specifically, not Brain, and any other inhabitants of his world. Adding Snowball does make it more entertaining, though.

So like I said Snowball, as Brain will show up and alas there will be Snowball already own'in the entire Shounenverse.Not likely, Snowball was evil. Brain wasn't infact quite a few of Brain's plans had to be put on hold so he could save the world only to enslave it tomorrow.

The fact that Brain isn't really evil just makes him that much more vulnerable to the "shounen hero alignment reversal/redemption".

Snowball also became evil because of a tragedy in his past. Plenty of shounen heroes who redeem bad guys like that.

[Vynjira]

The fact that Brain isn't really evil just makes him that much more vulnerable to the "shounen hero alignment reversal/redemption".

Snowball also became evil because of a tragedy in his past. Plenty of shounen heroes who redeem bad guys like that.

Tell that to Kimimaru and Orichimaru, Not to mention the hundreds of other characters that remained bad or turned bad in the ShounenVerse.

Yeah, but this topic was about Brain specifically, not Brain, and any other inhabitants of his world. Adding Snowball does make it more entertaining, though.The point was that Snowball would have taken over the ShounenVerse before Brain would have a chance thus proving Brain couldn't take over the ShounenVerse. In addition OP, specifically left Pinky out so despite it being Brain VS ShounenVerse he felt a need to exclude Pinky as a Plot Device, in that regard its implied other Plot Devices are still in effect.

[G-Man]

Tell that to Kimimaru and Orichimaru, Not to mention the hundreds of other characters that remained bad or turned bad in the ShounenVerse.

Both were/are bad guys who either try to kill and/or are pretty much pure evil. Brain is not only not genuinely evil (he only wants to rule the world because he genuinely believes he's the most suited for the job), but he's never tried to kill or seriously hurt any innocent bystanders.

The point was that Snowball would have taken over the ShounenVerse before Brain would have a chance thus proving Brain couldn't take over the ShounenVerse. In addition OP, specifically left Pinky out so despite it being Brain VS ShounenVerse he felt a need to exclude Pinky as a Plot Device, in that regard its implied other Plot Devices are still in effect.

Hmmm, didn't look at it that... good point.

[Vynjira]

Hmmm, didn't look at it that... good point.Kimimaru isn't necessarily truly evil, and Gaara was alot more evil than Kimimaru back when he was a bad guy. Piccolo and Vegeta were both fairly evil when they converted they gave no regard to life. It seems more likely for the darker your heart is the more likely they are to change. So I doubt Brain would change his plans or switch sides.

[The Anti-Existence]

Brain’s resilience and ingenuity have been tested time and time again. Snowball can take over the ShounenVerse before Brain but Brain will dethrone him in the end somehow because...he’s The Brain. He’s the “he’ll figure out how to do it in the end” kinda character like Dooom or Thanos who usually win fights they normally couldn’t through their intellect and the fact they’ve shown they can do as much.

Anyway, Brain will succeed. As I said, Pinky was more the inherent flaw in what Brain did than anything else. Naruto and the rest are morons but they’re nto morons on his side. Thus they do nothing but hurt their own odds.

[Vynjira]

Snowball can take over the ShounenVerse before Brain but Brain will dethrone him in the end somehow because...he’s The Brain. He’s the “he’ll figure out how to do it in the end” kinda character like Dooom or Thanos who usually win fights they normally couldn’t through their intellect and the fact they’ve shown they can do as much.Brain = Apocalypse, Snowball = Dr. Doom

[Cthulhu-versailles]

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VS

We all know that Brain can conquer earth in 1 day.

Brain has: The element of surprise. and a dimensional gate to every shounenverse.


Does Brain rule the shounenverse?

Pinky is dead

Brain wins. Brain is perhaps the greatest fictional animal in existance. In fact, not even Simba prime can rival him.:nuts

[The Anti-Existence]

rain = Apocalypse, Snowball = Dr. Doom

Not even close. Snowball was an infrequent side-character and villain. He doesn't hold a percent of the tech and weapons created by Doom or Brain. Heck, all Brain would need is his enlarging ray he used to try and conquer Tokyo and Snowball is toast. That still leaves a huge array of other inventions.

[Vynjira]

Not even close. Snowball was an infrequent side-character and villain. He doesn't hold a percent of the tech and weapons created by Doom or Brain. Heck, all Brain would need is his enlarging ray he used to try and conquer Tokyo and Snowball is toast. That still leaves a huge array of other inventions.

Actually the comparison is dead on, Brain has plans he very rarely realizes much like Apocalypse, where Snowball and Dr. Doom do realize their goals rather frequently.