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Kira Yamato
01-13-2007, 11:45 AM
DALLAS -- A pizza chain has been hit with death threats and hate mail after offering to accept Mexican pesos, becoming another flashpoint in the nation's debate over immigrants.

``This is the United States of America, not the United States of Mexico,'' one e-mail read. ``Quit catering to the damn illegal Mexicans,'' demanded another.

Dallas-based Pizza Patron said it was not trying to inject itself into a larger political debate about illegal immigration when it posted signs this week saying ``Aceptamos pesos'' _ or ``We accept pesos'' _ at its 59 stores across Texas, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada and California.

Pizza Patron spokesman Andy Gamm said the company was just trying to sell more pizza to its customers, 60 percent of whom are Hispanic.

Wal-Mart, H-E-B supermarkets and other American businesses in towns along the Mexican border accept pesos. And some busineses in New York and Minnesota communities along the northern border accept Canadian dollars.

The difference here is that many of the pizza joints are far from the border, in places like Dallas, more than 400 miles away, and Denver, more than 700 miles.

``If people would understand that the majority of our customers are Hispanic, then it might make more sense for a company to sell pizza for pesos,'' Gamm said. ``It doesn't make sense in Connecticut. And it doesn't make sense in North Dakota or in Maine. But it makes perfect sense here in Dallas, in Phoenix, in Denver _ areas far from the border that have significant Hispanic populations.''

The company said it has received hundreds of e-mails, some supportive, most critical.

While praising the pesos plan as an innovative way to appeal to Hispanics, a partner in the nation's largest Hispanic public relations firm said a backlash was inevitable.

``Right now there's a lot of anti-immigrant rhetoric going around that could make them a lightning rod,'' said Patricia Perez, a partner at Valencia, Perez & Echeveste in Los Angeles.

Pizza Patron proclaims on its Web site that ``to serve the Hispanic community is our passion.'' Its restaurants are in mostly Hispanic neighborhoods, and each manager must be bilingual and live nearby, said Pizza Patron founder Antonio Swad, who is part-Italian, part-Lebanese.

The take-home menus are in both English and Spanish, and the dishes include the La Mexicana pizza, with spicy chorizo sausage; La Barbacoa pizza, topped with spicy pulled pork; and chicken wings flavored with lime, peppers and garlic con queso.

Many Pizza Patron customers have pesos ``sitting in their sock drawers or in their wallets,'' Gamm said. ``We're talking small amounts, where it would be inconvenient to stop and exchange on the way back _ maybe 10 or 20 dollars' worth of pesos.''

The promotion will run through the end of February and then be re-evaluated, Swad said.

In the first week, payments in pesos have accounted for about 10 percent of business at the five restaurants operated by the corporation, Pizza Patron said. The others are franchised, and the company will not get reports until the end of the week.

The company has set a conversion rate of 12 pesos per dollar, which is slightly higher than the official rate of about 11 pesos per dollar. Any change is given in U.S. currency.

At a Pizza Patron in Dallas, Veronica Verges bought a pizza Wednesday for her son Nathan's fourth birthday. She paid with pesos her father brought home two weeks ago after a trip to see family in Mexico.

She said she is an occasional Pizza Patron customer, but came that day because she could pay with pesos. Her father wasn't going to use them because he had no plans to go back to Mexico anytime soon.

``I would mostly think a restaurant would do this in a border town,'' she said. ``But it got me over here.''

http://www.southflorida.com/news/sfl-111pesosforpizza,0,1426963.story

Isn't it their right to accept pesos if they want? Plus it's only a promotion for people to get rid of their spare change/money. Immigration is such a hot topic >___>

Bishop
01-13-2007, 12:05 PM
Well no Kira. It would be one thing if they just decided to accept pesos BUT, they changed their currency because they were scared of the threats and were influenced. I here every week how people say America is a free country, that's why many people immigrate over there, adding the fact that Mexico is not really a fun place to live those Mexicans go there for a chance at life. But nevertheless, I'd be damn if a immigrant comes to my country and demands something from me.

Megaharrison
01-13-2007, 12:24 PM
"I want one large cheese pizza"
"That'll be $6.95 or 2354234252529582345734763452352 Pesos"

Kira Yamato
01-13-2007, 01:56 PM
Well no Kira. It would be one thing if they just decided to accept pesos BUT, they changed their currency because they were scared of the threats and were influenced. I here every week how people say America is a free country, that's why many people immigrate over there, adding the fact that Mexico is not really a fun place to live those Mexicans go there for a chance at life. But nevertheless, I'd be damn if a immigrant comes to my country and demands something from me.

I'm a bit confused about your comment.

What I was trying to say in my first statement:

I don't think it's right to send death threats to people just because you don't agree with their policy for "offering to accept Mexican pesos" :huh

Bishop
01-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Yep Kira, I was reading in a rush, didn't see the "n't" on is and left out other words.

Tokoyami
01-13-2007, 03:32 PM
Keh.....I see no problem with it....in the end there paying for the shit whether with peso's dollars or whatever.....

The Space Cowboy
01-13-2007, 05:19 PM
Dollars and cents are legal tender in the US, pesos are not. I can also see tax issues here.

Jannoy
01-13-2007, 05:22 PM
^ a good way to put it, Kikero. :nod

amaterasujutsu
01-13-2007, 05:34 PM
I don't have any problem with it. But I do have problem with those who try to make a big deal about it.

Bishop
01-13-2007, 05:40 PM
^ It is an issue worth notice beause of currency issues. How can this be devided up can profit the business? You can give me 2 thousand pesos but how will that help me put food on the table, or pay the bills?

Yuriha
01-13-2007, 05:47 PM
Death threats? Really? What are people so afraid of? What's so god awful about a business accepting pesos that you have to threaten someone's life over it?

kulgan18
01-13-2007, 11:45 PM
Dollars and cents are legal tender in the US, pesos are not. I can also see tax issues here.

The value of the pizza is the same, the only thing that changes is the currency. So if they pay the taxes it should be no problem. And it makes no difference they can sell it at whatever value they want.

How do you think people trade currencies in the first place. Is no biggie.

This is just xenophobia, the e-mails are probably from just a bunch of rednecks with klan meetings to attend to.

Dionysus
01-14-2007, 12:00 AM
It's customary, in the Western countries I've been in, to accept another nations money. Bordering nations typically have their money accepted near their borders. (Others in the airports, or they have quick exchanges if that's not the case. Or in train stations, international ferries, etc.)

I know that's the case in Canada and the US near their border. I don't know the history with monetary transactions and the US-Mexican border, but this seems normal in my experience.

sj2k
01-14-2007, 12:01 AM
as long as the IRS gets its money, it doesn't really care. In terms of exchange rate, the pizza place set one up. Granted, its not as good as the current one, but then again, you don't have to pay a fee to do it, and you don't have to go through all the hassle. If people want to do it, let them.

Really, the only ones who send those threats are just ignorant people.

ANBUBooBoo
01-14-2007, 01:48 AM
Those death threats are essentially racism against Mexicans (on top of being, well, death threats to the pizza place).

Lots of places in the states accept Canadian money (especially near the border), but nobody cares that they're catering to the "damn Canadians". Most places in Canada accept American money too, and nobody gives a damn. It's just an simple way for businesses to make it easier for customers to pay, and in turn easier to make money off those customers.

The people who're against it are just idiots.

metal_uzumaki
01-14-2007, 07:46 AM
It shouldn't matter what currency the pizza joint accept. They do it to earn money. Money is money there's no different

Sorrow-Tear's Champion
01-14-2007, 07:57 AM
I actually know ppl who said they would not order from this place any longer because of this. I honestly don't see a problem with it. But the climate in the Dallas area recently is getting very stupid.

That NOS Guy
01-14-2007, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I see little difference in using a loonie to pay. It's not against standing precedent.

Vom Osten
01-14-2007, 10:13 PM
I dont see whats the big problem. I don't mind Mexicans coming over here, im just having a problem with them doing it illegally.

T4R0K
01-15-2007, 06:58 AM
Lolz ! Some people love their national currency too much.

Euros can be used in some non-EU countries of continental Europe. The sellers don't really care. They prefer if you pay them with the local money just out of convenience (because they must calculate the change they give back), but they don't refuse Euros in the Balkans, Russia, Ukraine and others. The EU countries that don't have the Euro yet do it too.

You can even find places that accept dollars in Paris.

Chamcham Trigger
01-15-2007, 07:56 AM
Whether it's a legal issue concerning currency and the government's cut, or just laws of monetary exchange as a whole, the individual's sending death threats are in the wrong. It may be their right to know the policy of the store, but it's not their right to threaten to kill people over it, no matter if it's against the law or not. That's like sending a death threat for j walking.

CrazyMoronX
01-15-2007, 09:37 AM
It's easy to cover it up by just saying they want to accept pesos because they are close to the border.

But we all know they are just catering to illegals. :nod

Lonely Soul
01-15-2007, 07:07 PM
This is just xenophobia, the e-mails are probably from just a bunch of rednecks with klan meetings to attend to.

That cracked me up. :laugh

Dionysus
01-15-2007, 07:27 PM
But we all know they are just catering to illegals. :nod
Illegals are such poor souls. Even being paid in pesos in the US. :arg

Genis-Vell
01-15-2007, 07:32 PM
Dollars and cents are legal tender in the US, pesos are not. I can also see tax issues here.

I would think tax is included in the peso price.


Anyhow............
I do not know why, they are making such a big issue.
In the border, both in Mexico and America; its normal to see prices in pesos and dollar.

Illegals are such poor souls. Even being paid in pesos in the US. :arg

You have to remember they are in the border. And many send money to Mexico.
This could be beneficial, if they do not have to exchange currency from Dollar-Peso.

That’s all I can think of.