Homonculi Vs Akatsuki -Spoilers-

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Homonculi
They will get Father here. However, Pride is omitted.

Father
King Bradley (Wraith)
Greed
Sloth
Gluttony
Lust
Envy

Vs

Itachi
Kisame
Sasori
Hidan
Kakuzu
Deidara
Orochimaru

Deidara does not have Number 18.

[Comic Book Guy]

What fiction does Akatsuki's opponents originate from?

[Shiron]

What fiction does Akatsuki's opponents originate from?
The manga series Fullmetal Alchemist.

[1234567890]

well since you are using the manga version homonculi I would go with akatsuki

[Kazuma the Shell Bullet]

Which Greed is it? Ling Yao or the first Greed

[Orion]

Which Greed is it? Ling Yao or the first Greed

ling greed has no feets to judge him by really......

[Aizen]

akatsuki. they have robes!!! nuff said

[Kai]

I think this has been done before...

Is this manga FMA or anime FMA?

[Orion]

since hes using bradley as wrath its manga.

[Kazuma the Shell Bullet]

ling greed has no feets to judge him by really......

Except with just 1 sword, he fought toe-to-toe with Wrath, who has the Ultimate Eye and two swords

[Orion]

Except with just 1 sword, he fought toe-to-toe with Wrath, who has the Ultimate Eye and two swords

thats regular ling we have no idea how much being greed improved him,not to mention he didnt fight shit he ran away and outsmarted wrath but never matched him in actual combat.

[Nexas]

If it wasn't for Father (who is h4x) I would give it to Akatsuki.

[Kazuma the Shell Bullet]

Father=Win

[Gaelek_13]

The Homonculi win this. They're regenerating monsters and I think Akatsuki is outclassed here.

[Portgas D. Ace]

Homonculi win:amuse

[G-Man]

Father better be ridiculously strong or the homunculi are getting owned hard, and then turned into experiments for Akatsuki.

I still remmeber when those two ninja body guards made Envy look like an idiot. Granted, he didn't use his true form, but the homunculi aren't that impressive and their regen dies out if you shred them enough.

I will admit however, that I don't know as much about the FMA manga as you guys though. What can Sloth do? He looks big and slow, like Gluttony.

Gluttony, Lust, the original Greed (awesome character as he was), and Evy are flat-out worthless unless Gluttony got some power-up like in the FMA anime movie. They are just too slow. They get shredded enough times to stay dead before they can do any real damage. Greed could defend against some hits, but not all of them.

Wrath can only do so much to carry this fight against so many opponents who are way more physically powerful than the humans of his world.

Like I said, Father better be as h4x as some of you are implying or Akatsuki takes this in a walk.

[omg laser pew pew!]

Father is h4x incarnate

He can just about do any alchemy without moving. He was able to make shield for himself and destroy flesh just by thinking

[Crimson King]

The Homonculi take this easily. They got mass regen and are pretty much unstoppable unless you got alchemy.

I just noticed G-Man is here o.o

[TheBlindHyuuga]

father causes akatsuki to lose....for he is h4x in FMAuniverse...

he has never been shown to be harmed in any way in a fight

even if they had alchemy...father is able to cause them to not be able to use it....he took scar's destruction attack in the face and it did nothing...xD

if people need pictures of feats...I'll be able to provide them....

[Limit_Tester]

Father owns Akatsuki.

[Darklyre]

Father's ability to use alchemy while ignoring pretty much all of it's laws is almost like minor reality warping.

[omg laser pew pew!]

Sloth could take out Kisame, Kakuzu, Hidan, Sasori and maybe some others by himself

Or he could at least tank them

[Gaelek_13]

Father can own pretty much anyone by himself.
Wrath is easily capable of holding his own thanks to the Ultimate Eye.
Greed is it original or Ling Greed? Either way Greed with his Ultimate Shield and there's little Akatsuki can do to harm him.
Sloth again little they can do even with the meagre amount he's shown.
Gluttony he could just devour them all...
Lust's Ultimate Lance will snip Hidans head off and anyone elses.
Envy becoming Monster Envy anyone?

[Code]

Gluttony, Lust, the original Greed (awesome character as he was), and Evy are flat-out worthless unless Gluttony got some power-up like in the FMA anime movie. They are just too slow. They get shredded enough times to stay dead before they can do any real damage. Greed could defend against some hits, but not all of them.

I don't see how Gluttony and Lust are useless. Greed would be hard to harm and I'm sure getting hit with something as hard as the substance he's made out of would hurt. The only problem would be getting a hit in. Lust can supposably cut anything with her "Utlimate Lance."

Though the Gluttony thing I definitely don't see how he'd be useless, I'd say aside from Father he'd be the most useful due to his high-speed eating attack that sends someone to an inescapable (as far as Akatsuki is concered) dimension.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

gluttony in "fake gate" form is insane...he's fast basically sucks up everything he runs into...is able to take in attacks and fire it back at people. He was able to suck in all of Roy's flames and shoot it back at him...he could easily doe the same to most of the elemental attacks that can be fired at him.

[G-Man]

Please note my earlier words "unless Gluttony has some power-up later that I'm unaware of". The fact that he can turn himself into a mini-black hole changes everything. He is now a serious threat.

Lust and the original Greed are worthless. They are waaaaay too slow to connect with even the slowest Akatsuki members. Greed's armor is just as hard as diamonds. Guess what Orochimaru's sword can cut through? And Oro is at least close to Bradley's speed.

Really, Bradley is the only one who has demonstrated anywhere near the speed needed to touch the Akatsuki members (unless Father and Sloth have any impressive speed feats, I honestly don't know so I'm asking), and he's gonna be stuck fighting more than one cuz' his teammates are too slow to help.

Can anyone please tell me what Sloth can actually do? If he's that badass I'll change my mind.

What can Envy do in his monster form? Does it make him waaaay faster? If not he's useless.

As for Father, HOLY CRAP, THIS GUY IS INSANE!!!! :amazed

I had no idea he was so powerful! He owns Akatsuki by himself! Nearly indestructible physically and he can kill you effortlessly with an attack that can't be blocked = H4XXORZZZ FROM HELL.

If it were just the homunculi, Akatsuki could gut out a win despite Gluttony's impressive new power, unless Sloth is at least half as uber as Father.

The Akatsuki guys can really just keep killing them all the live long day; they're too slow to defend properly except Bradley and now Gluttony (and maybe Sloth, he doesn't look all that fast though).

[Orion]

just to let ya know,greeds armor wouldnt be penetrated because the whole kusanagi being able to cut diamond or w/e was filler it wasnt actually in the manga.

[G-Man]

just to let ya know,greeds armor wouldnt be penetrated because the whole kusanagi being able to cut diamond or w/e was filler it wasnt actually in the manga.

It could slightly cut Enma when he was in his diamond staff form, couldn't it? Could have sworn that was in the manga fight, but if I'm wrong I'll concede the point. It didn't slice right through him, so it can only partially cut through diamond, but that's all Oro needs to keep stabbing Greed's eyes out.

Still doesn't change the fact that he's too damn slow. Itachi can probably cut his head off before he puts the full armor on. Greed can't heal and armor up at the same time.

[Orion]

thats the thing im preety sure that enma wasnt actually said to be hard as diamond in the manga......

[G-Man]

thats the thing im preety sure that enma wasnt actually said to be hard as diamond in the manga......

Well, if I was wrong, then my apologies.

Could have sworn that was the name of his transformation jutsu, but if it's anime only then I'll ignore it.

[Jareth Dallis]

We have seen Hidan survive getting his head cut off, Kakuzu is seemingly immortal as well, not to mention incredibly strong. Itachi can do some crazy things with the mangekyo sharingan, I wouldnt count Akatsuki out on this one, not to mention the leader is obviously stronger than the rest since we haven't seen what he can do.

[Orion]

We have seen Hidan survive getting his head cut off, Kakuzu is seemingly immortal as well, not to mention incredibly strong. Itachi can do some crazy things with the mangekyo sharingan, I wouldnt count Akatsuki out on this one, not to mention the leader is obviously stronger than the rest since we haven't seen what he can do.

hidan gets turned into a rock,kakuzu some water or stone,and the rest go easy,this would be a good fight if it wasnt for father being included he is complete hax all alchemy without circles and without having to do equivalent exchange.

[Cipher]

Though this would be a rather long and hard battle (not to mention awsome. A FMA-Naruto crossover would be nuts), I don't see any of Akatsuki surviving (outside of Hidan). I'd have to say that any one of the Homonculi mentioned + Father could take out Akatsuki single-handed, if only because they must be killed many times, whereas the most durable Akatsuki known is Kakuzu, who can only 'die' 5 times (I say that he is more durable because while Hidan is immortal, he's rather easy to incapacitate). Then there's Father, who's a small-scale reality warper at the very least.

[G-Man]

Though this would be a rather long and hard battle (not to mention awsome. A FMA-Naruto crossover would be nuts), I don't see any of Akatsuki surviving (outside of Hidan). I'd have to say that any one of the Homonculi mentioned + Father could take out Akatsuki single-handed, if only because they must be killed many times, whereas the most durable Akatsuki known is Kakuzu, who can only 'die' 5 times (I say that he is more durable because while Hidan is immortal, he's rather easy to incapacitate). Then there's Father, who's a small-scale reality warper at the very least.

From what I'm hearing, Father rapes them by himself. The other homunculi can go get him a mai tai or something.

As for the homunculi without Father.

Can anyone please tell me what Sloth's power is and if he's fast.

Most of them are too damn slow. It doesn't matter if they can die multiple times and Akatsuki can only die once because they are never going to hit any of them. Akatsuki can literally afford to ignore all of them save Gluttony (and maybe Sloth) and concentrate on killing Bradley a whole bunch of times. His Ultimate Eye can only compensate for so much.

Hell, if Deidara is packing as much clay as when he fought Gaara, he can just keep all the other homunculi breifly occupied with swarms of exploding birds, while the others gang bang Bradley.

[Orion]

sloth in manga is a beast when it comes to damage absorption he took high powered tank shells to the face without injury preety much,hes preety fast but not super fast,main problem is his tsunade esque strength and his crazy ass damage soak.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

Can anyone please tell me what Sloth can actually do? If he's that badass I'll change my mind.

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it took 3 tanks to physically push him 10 feet...>__>



What can Envy do in his monster form? Does it make him waaaay faster? If not he's useless.

the tail of his makes him very versatile...and I doubt any of the akatsuki members would expect this...not like any bijuu they've ever seen...xD:

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9517/3637zs7.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3637zs7.jpg)

^that fight is occuring in gluttony by the way...xDDD

I'll post more envy and the father pictures in a bit

[G-Man]

Envy is a non-factor if that's all. Turning into a freaky monster isn't going to give him some kind of shock value advantage. Just becoming gross won't make the Akatsuki members drop their guards and slow down. Hell, Kakuzu has equally freaky creatures living inside of him.

Sloth is gonna be trouble though. He's basically a weaker, less durable Hulk. It depends on whether or not genjutsu would work on them.

Actually, if genjutsu works on them, then Itachi will be beating them left and right except for Bradely.

And thanks for ther pics! That was awesome! I liked how he referred to taking a tank shell to the head as "troublesome". smile-big

[Orion]

Envy is a non-factor if that's all. Turning into a freaky monster isn't going to give him some kind of shock value advantage. Just becoming gross won't make the Akatsuki members drop their guards and slow down. Hell, Kakuzu has equally freaky creatures living inside of him.

Sloth is gonna be trouble though. He's basically a weaker, less durable Hulk. It depends on whether or not genjutsu would work on them.

Actually, if genjutsu works on them, then Itachi will be beating them left and right except for Bradely.
itachi can only use tsukiyomi about twice before being practically outta chakra so he wont be beating anyone left and right lol.

[G-Man]

itachi can only use tsukiyomi about twice before being practically outta chakra so he wont be beating anyone left and right lol.

However, he can trap you in lesser genjutsu just by pointing at you, so yes, he will be dropping them left and right if they are indeed vulnerable to genjutsu.

he can just trick them into killing each other or standing still while the other Akatsuki members gang up on Bradley and then butcher them horribly again and again.

[Orion]

However, he can trap you in lesser genjutsu just by pointing at you, so yes, he will be dropping them left and right if they are indeed vulnerable to genjutsu.

he can just trick them into killing each other or standing still while the other Akatsuki members gang up on Bradley and then butcher them horribly again and again.

wont work,genjutsu has been shown to dispel by even the slightest of pain so as soon as one hits one another its dispelled they regen and everything is ok,likewise itachi cant just spam shitloads of jutsu's all the time remember that if a genjutsu user uses a regular genjutsu they have to concentrate on continuisly using it on the intended target so if he uses genjutsu on one member another can kill itachi while hes focusing on using it.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

more of the envy fight

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6672/38tr1.th.jpg (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38tr1.jpg)

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[G-Man]

Nice, but too slow, and he's actually disappointly weak. He slammed his hand right into Ling and didn't even break any of the guys bones.

Any of the Akatsuki > Ed and Ling in the speed department, even that retard Hidan.

[Orion]

im sorry but no ling outpaced wrath while carrying a body he can easily outpace hidan.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

envy broke ed's arm and a few of his ribs and some things of ling in this fight...>___<

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father:

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[G-Man]

Oh, God. Envy actually exposes his weak spot by swallowing you?! That makes him even lamer! Still not that impressed but at least he did some damage to Ed before losing like an idiot.

I already knew this Father guy was badass, but thanks for the pics!

As for Ling dodging Bradley, are we using Ling Greed or original Greed?

[Orion]

regular ling dodged bradley.....while carrying a person.

[G-Man]

regular ling dodged bradley.....while carrying a person.

That's insane. Either Bradley was nerfed to hell and back, or he wasn't seriously trying to kill the kid.

Ling was never shown to be faster than his ninja guards and Bradley is fast enough to draw his swords, slice a spear to pieces, and resheathe so fast Ed didn't even realize he had moved.

If anything, that makes Bradley seem even weaker.

[Orion]

That's insane. Either Bradley was nerfed to hell and back, or he wasn't seriously trying to kill the kid.

Ling was never shown to be faster than his ninja guards and Bradley is fast enough to draw his swords, slice a spear to pieces, and resheathe so fast Ed didn't even realize he had moved.

If anything, that makes Bradley seem even weaker.

not really ling used tricks and shit to get away,and ling is alot stronger and faster then his bodyguards he just never really shows it.bradley wasnt very serious at all imo either.

[G-Man]

not really ling used tricks and shit to get away,and ling is alot stronger and faster then his bodyguards he just never really shows it.bradley wasnt very serious at all imo either.

Wow. Ling was the shit. And he becomes the new Greed? That's just pwnsome! :nod

[The Space Cowboy]

ling greed has no feets to judge him by really......

Ling could cross swords with a Precognitative bladesmaster. Which makes him quite the BAMF. However I don't see the Homunculi winning. Any one of the Akatsuki is enough to deal with say...Envy. They're especially GOOD at beating monsters.

I see the dangerous Homunculi here being Father, King Bradley, and Gluttony, in that order.

But why are King Bradley and Gluttony the most dangerous of the normals? Gluttony can, if he gets the chance, remove any of the Akatsuki from the Battlefield. I only see a really advanced jutsu user, such as Orochimaru, coming up with a countering technique to it on the fly (He's boned if Hidan gets any blood on or in him).

Bradley, since he is precognitive, poses the other great danger to team Akatsuki. A man with a plan is always dangerous. Although Bradley's otherwise-humanity would prove his downfall. We've seen in the manga he's got skills, and the eye, but Ling could match him before becoming Greed. Itachi murders him, because it doesn't matter if you can see the future, if you can't act fast enough.

As for the others...Envy, Greed, Lust, and Sloth die... Diamond is tough stuff, but it can burn, be shattered, and destroyed. Furthermore, if we're talking about the new Greed--he can only be reborn by using up a "Soul" he's absorbed. And well...Lust isn't durable enough to mean anything--Amaterasu anyone?

Envy has "Big Target" written all over him (Plus, all those bodies, great for Edo Tensei, or feeding Manda), and Sloth looks to be just too slow--a great target for a water-prison, or other entrapment technique.

But you had to go and throw in Father. Although his technique-canceling won't work on the Akatsuki's techniques (It doesn't work on alchemy not of the same lineage, see Rentanjutsu), he's a class A BAMF. Father, will probably be the deciding factor.

[Orion]

ling crossed swords with a bradley who was hardley serious at all and i would hardly consider him a regular human hes too strong and fast,i see bradley and father winning this.and wow another person besides me and my friend who uses BAMF lmfao.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

other father feats for those who are interested:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1293/07ok7.th.png (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07ok7.png)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/459/08oz6.th.png (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=08oz6.png)
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As for the others...Envy, Greed, Lust, and Sloth die... Diamond is tough stuff, but it can burn, be shattered, and destroyed. Furthermore, if we're talking about the new Greed--he can only be reborn by using up a "Soul" he's absorbed. And well...Lust isn't durable enough to mean anything--Amaterasu anyone?

you would need great force to destroy diamond....greed could be reborn because Father was able to get back the stone that made him...it's the whole reason why lust will never return because hers was destroyed...

as for amaterasu...itachi so far has only shown that he can use it once....that's only going to kill lust once...she'll come back after that...it took several blasts from Roy to take her down..especially after she had used the stone moments earlier to regenerate after Roy and Havoc caused that one room to explode with her in it.

Envy can be taken IMO however...most people forget that he doesn't specifically just transform him self into animals and humans exlusively *which I mean that he's not limited to only turning into one things at once* since he was shown changing one arm into a snake to choke ling while changing the other arm into a blade to take him out....and it will take a long time to take down sloth unless they get him in a cold environment like drachma.

Oh, God. Envy actually exposes his weak spot by swallowing you?! That makes him even lamer! Still not that impressed but at least he did some damage to Ed before losing like an idiot

well...Envy didn't lose that battle....it was a draw since they came to a compromise since they discovered the way to get out of gluttony.....

my next post will have gluttony feats for people who are interested.

[Gaelek_13]

The only thing we've seen harm Sloth was tank shells...eventually....

The only thing we've seen harm Greed was Wrath before he raised the Ultimate Shield and Ed with Alchemy....

Gluttony is fast for his large girth and his Ultimate Stomach (just what I call it) is quite dangerous.

Those who are slating these guys for being slow, they have something called compensating for your weakness. Why move around fast when you're virtually invulnerable or can just swallow everyone? Oh and they can all regenerate fully as well.

[tri-sapphire]

That's insane. Either Bradley was nerfed to hell and back, or he wasn't seriously trying to kill the kid.

Ling was never shown to be faster than his ninja guards and Bradley is fast enough to draw his swords, slice a spear to pieces, and resheathe so fast Ed didn't even realize he had moved.

If anything, that makes Bradley seem even weaker.

Actually, Bradly only drew his sword and cut Ed's spear once. He didn't slice it to pieces, nor did he resheathe his sword. And just because Ling wasn't shown to be faster or stronger than his guards doesn't mean it can't be so. That's like saying that because Jiraiya was never shown to be faster than Kakashi, he would lose against Zabuza.


And the Homunculi take this...or rather, Father does. I think Akatsuki should be able to take out most of the others (Greed and Sloth might be a problem), but Father's instant no-rules alchemy is simply too overpowered.

[blacklusterseph004]

How fast is father's alchemy and what is the range? Also, how fast can he react?

[omg laser pew pew!]

How fast is father's alchemy and what is the range? Also, how fast can he react?

As fast as his thoughts

[Khamzul]

THe way I see it The Homonculi loses without Father, Akatsuki takes it without too much problem. However Father is just too good. I don't even know if has been shown with any kind of weakness yet.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

father hasn't been shown to have a weakness

gluttony:

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