View Full Version : How much does Kenpachi's eyepatch affect him?
Insipidipity
12-28-2006, 04:22 AM
I was wondering how much you think his eyepatch limits him? I figured lowering his reiatsu 90% sounded about right, but I've never seen any specific mention of it.
1. If his reiatsu were truly massive, then something like half would still be massive, so an order of magnitude lower sounded better.
2. I figured since they seem to have some way of limiting people to 20% on earth, then the reason Kenpachi would have to have something else would be because he needed it lowered even more than even that.
3. He had to be able to beat a Captain, meaning he could beat a Bankai, without his eyepatch, so to have fun fighting, he'd have to lower his reiatsu by more about 10x, or else a non captain couldn't fight him, and I doubt he's faced many people of captain level for fun.
But then again, it had to be low enough that Ichigo could increase to match it, so I don't think Ichigo could increase his reiatsu 20x(even Bankai is like a 10x improvement), so 5% would be too low for how much he uses with it on.
So I'd say his eyepatch eats 85-90% of his reiatsu.
makeoutparadise
01-02-2007, 06:33 PM
10% sounds about right
So I'd say his eyepatch eats 85-90% of his reiatsu.
That sounds a bit much. To eat 90% of his reiatsu means a power-up of 90% would be strong enough to finish off pretty much any opponent. Not sure if I understood your post correctly. Is it (1) that his reiatsu is reduced by 90% or (2) reduced to 90%. I could agree that it could've been reduced to 90%. A 10 to 15% power reduction sounds about right to me.
Gaelek_13
01-03-2007, 12:08 PM
I think the eyepatch eats anything from 50%-85% of his maximum and Kenpachi himself knowingly increases or decreases the rest as required.
HugeGuy
01-03-2007, 12:33 PM
All I know is the eyepatch drastically decrease Kenpachi's reiatsu. It isn't farfetch to think the eyepatch left him with only 10% of his true power.
Before he took it off, each swing from Kenpachi is just really strong but guys like normal Ichigo can block it albeit with difficulty.
After Kenpachi took off the eyepatch, he demonstrated his power by cutting a buiding effortlessly.
http://bleachexile.com/bleach-online/details.php?image_id=2377&sessionid=12242127aabb67ad7e4c751c111d3b28
Now if you paid attention to the width of the building, it's at least 10 times the height of Kenpachi. Since Kenpachi is 2m tall, that building must have been at least 20m wide. The building also seemed like it had a square base and SwordDancer estimated it to be 200m tall. Therefore Kenpachi cut down a 20mX20mX200m building with ease, meaning that's like his normal swing. Imagine Kenpachi fighting all out with that kind of destructive power with every swing.
Scary thought. >.<
Dirk Diggler
01-03-2007, 12:44 PM
Now if you paid attention to the width of the building, it's at least 10 times the height of Kenpachi. Since Kenpachi is 2m tall, that building must have been at least 20m wide. The building also seemed like it had a square base and SwordDancer estimated it to be 200m tall. Therefore Kenpachi cut down a 20mX20mX200m building with ease, meaning that's like his normal swing. Imagine Kenpachi fighting all out with that kind of destructive power with every swing.
Scary thought. >.<
You can never really apply mathematics to anime. ^^
Personally I think his eye patch suppresses about 60-70% of his reiatsu.
HugeGuy
01-03-2007, 12:48 PM
You can never really apply mathematics to anime. ^^
Personally I think his eye patch suppresses about 60-70% of his reiatsu.
Of course you can, as long as you're not being too nitpicking about minute details.
Kira's shikai itself is connected to maths.
lyrs_amv
01-04-2007, 12:23 AM
So just how much does his sword limit him then?
Cirus
01-04-2007, 01:33 AM
With the eye patch on it seals his reiatsu. So when it does it has to knock him down to about captin level. Because in a fight the anime showed him taking on 2 other captins with the patch on and the fight wasn't anything for him. Compareing that to when the patch is off, I would say that it increases by almost 15fold. I would also say that the patch cuts off about 70% of his reiatsu or even more.
Also when Ichi fight him, Ichi increases his own reiatsu to the same level as Kenpachi without the eye patch.
killerhex
01-04-2007, 03:04 AM
didnt he say it was constantly eating his spirit power
The Space Cowboy
01-04-2007, 04:50 AM
Perhaps it is a device that limits the rate at which he generates Reiatsu, whatever it is, rather than simply limiting his overall power.
Pokémon Master Ryuumaru
01-04-2007, 08:45 AM
This is what Kenpachi said to Ichigo in episode 39:
"This is something I had the Bureau of Technological Development make... a monster that endlessly consumes reiatsu. All the reiatsu I've been feeding to this thing... I'm gonna pour it all into beating you!"
This means that Kenpachi's eyepatch holds all the reiatsu which it sucked from Kenpachi ever since Kenpachi put the eyepatch on. When Kenpachi takes off the eyepatch, all the reiatsu which the eyepatch had sucked all returns back to Kenpachi. This could mean that the eyepatch is actually gaining more power for every second Kenpachi wears the eyepatch.
Spanish Hoffkage
01-04-2007, 08:53 AM
I always thought around a lil more than 50%
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This is what Kenpachi said to Ichigo in episode 39:
"This is something I had the Bureau of Technological Development make... a monster that endlessly consumes reiatsu. All the reiatsu I've been feeding to this thing... I'm gonna pour it all into beating you!"
This means that Kenpachi's eyepatch holds all the reiatsu which it sucked from Kenpachi ever since Kenpachi put the eyepatch on. When Kenpachi takes off the eyepatch, all the reiatsu which the eyepatch had sucked all returns back to Kenpachi. This could mean that the eyepatch is actually gaining more power for every second Kenpachi wears the eyepatch.
Nope. He meant it in the way that the reiatsu that would otherwise been eaten away by the eyepatch is now not eaten away and available for him to fight. The eyepatch doesn't give anything back to him, if this were the case, why taking it off?
Insipidipity
01-04-2007, 06:27 PM
With the eye patch on it seals his reiatsu. So when it does it has to knock him down to about captin level. Because in a fight the anime showed him taking on 2 other captins with the patch on and the fight wasn't anything for him. Compareing that to when the patch is off, I would say that it increases by almost 15fold. I would also say that the patch cuts off about 70% of his reiatsu or even more.
Also when Ichi fight him, Ichi increases his own reiatsu to the same level as Kenpachi without the eye patch.
15fold would be 93% not 70%.
That sounds a bit much. To eat 90% of his reiatsu means a power-up of 90% would be strong enough to finish off pretty much any opponent. Not sure if I understood your post correctly. Is it (1) that his reiatsu is reduced by 90% or (2) reduced to 90%. I could agree that it could've been reduced to 90%. A 10 to 15% power reduction sounds about right to me.
It's (1). His reiatsu is reduced by 90%. 90% IS generally enough to finish off a strong opponent...which is the entire point of why he wears it. He wants to have fun out of his fights so he doesn't want to finish off opponents, he wants to get as much out of it as possible.
Reyes
01-04-2007, 06:59 PM
Therefore Kenpachi cut down a 20mX20mX200m building with ease, meaning that's like his normal swing. Imagine Kenpachi fighting all out with that kind of destructive power with every swing.
Scary thought. >.<
And this was as he concentrated his spiritual reiatsu about him and dispersed it.
This would make it unlike a normal swing. If each swing had this much destructive power, why didn't it cut like this everytime he swung it thereafter?
Soul Vibe
01-04-2007, 07:10 PM
uh...90%?
dont you think that's a bit high?
if Ichigo were able to defeat him when he was at 100%, and he fights normally at 10% according to your theory, that means both Ichigo and Kenpachi would probably be able to beat Yamamoto one on one.
which isnt possible, cause otherwise Kenpachi wouldve already done so.
i'd say the eyepatch limits him to around 50-70% of his reitatsu. 30-50% is still a lot of power that can make the difference in a fight.
HugeGuy
01-05-2007, 03:35 AM
And this was as he concentrated his spiritual reiatsu about him and dispersed it.
This would make it unlike a normal swing. If each swing had this much destructive power, why didn't it cut like this everytime he swung it thereafter?
That's because after cutting the building, Kenpachi never once again swung his sword until the final clash with Ichigo which took out several building, far more powerful than his initial swing. After that, we never saw Kenpachi took off his eyepatch again.
But I admit, your statement about concentrating and dispersing reiatsu can possibly be correct. We just need to see eyepatchless Kenpachi in action again. If his every swing cut down a building, then I'm correct. If they aren't as powerful or anywhere close to that level, then you're right.
souldevil
01-05-2007, 07:04 AM
It can't be just eating away 10%-15%. His reiatsu becomes clearly visible, so it must be eating away atleast 45%-50%.
lyrs_amv
01-05-2007, 11:01 PM
So just how much does his sword limit him then?
When Ichigo fought Kenpachi, Kenpachi's sword was negatively affecting his Reiatsu along with his Eye patch, so you have to take the sword into account:
Kenpachi - Eye patch - Sword = Ichigo + Zangetsu
if the Draw signalfies equal combined-Reaitsu level.
Darkadvocate
01-05-2007, 11:55 PM
The eyepatch eats at least 50% of his reiatsu up to about 80 I think. Now if kenpachi always fought with his eyepatch off he would be stronger than almost all of the captains as evidenced by he fought tousen and komamura without out taking the patch off and he had the upper hand. If he had the powers of his zanpakutoh too he would most likely be unstoppable.
Reyes
01-06-2007, 12:57 AM
That's because after cutting the building, Kenpachi never once again swung his sword until the final clash with Ichigo which took out several building, far more powerful than his initial swing. After that, we never saw Kenpachi took off his eyepatch again.
But I admit, your statement about concentrating and dispersing reiatsu can possibly be correct. We just need to see eyepatchless Kenpachi in action again. If his every swing cut down a building, then I'm correct. If they aren't as powerful or anywhere close to that level, then you're right.
Heh, I agree. But, we still have to wait to see this. :]
ArAshI-sensei
01-08-2007, 05:53 AM
I think his eyepatch eates away about 75-80% of his reiatsu, and he can defeat Tousen's bankai without much effort.
Too bad he didn't beat Komamuru (whatever his name is), that could atleast be a little interesting.
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