Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

[Blader]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

[~Zaxxon~]

It's a cartoon, get over it. :P

[Doggie]

Um, they use ninja stars and katanas. So it does have something to do with ninjas.

[Hylian]

well they use jutsu's and only ninjas can use jutsus and what kagero
said, they use ninja weapons like kunai and shuriken

but really, the "real" ninjas that you're probably talking about
are the anbu black ops

[Mider T]

Plural and singular=ninja

[Masaki]

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

I have never seen a truer statement from anyone in these entire forums for the past 2 years and 3 months. Not even the people in the "State the obvious" threads.

[Kero-Chan]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

You can do better?
Yea, ninjas dont use swords and kunais. [/sarcasm].
Ninjas do Tricks to TRICK their opponent moron.
You got me mad enough to neg a noob :(.
YOU NOOB@!!111OneOne!
GTFO!! :mad

[NecroAngel]

2/10 troll post, got a few people angry, probably.

If you didn't notice within 2 seconds that Naruto wasn't a realistic ninja anime, then something is wrong with you. In their world, ninja means something different. As for the fights... it has the most intelligent fights in any fighting anime/manga, so good luck finding better ones.

[Kero-Chan]

+Props for him for actually taking time to register, and post and flame about it.

Then when people respond, he runs off with nothing to say.

[The Communist Manifesto]

You can do better?
Yea, ninjas dont use swords and kunais. [/sarcasm].
Ninjas do Tricks to TRICK their opponent moron.
You got me mad enough to neg a noob :(.
YOU NOOB@!!111OneOne!
GTFO!! :mad




You got mad at someone for speaking the truth...

Pathetic.

[Cipher]

Um, no duh?

[Blader]

As for the fights... it has the most intelligent fights in any fighting anime/manga, so good luck finding better ones.
Cause' as we all know, 200 IQ > Everything else. This is proven from one of the fights Shikamaru had.




2/10 troll post, got a few people angry, probably.Wow, only a 2 otta 10? I was expecting more of a 9/10 at least.........:P






If you didn't notice within 2 seconds that Naruto wasn't a realistic ninja anime, then something is wrong with you. In their world, ninja means something different.Sorry, but I have a hard time telling the difference from reality and fantasy.

Anyways......If being a Ninja is guarding your village, then why not call them warriors?

[ryne11]

Except for the DBZ comment, I agree.

[SamRH]

Ninja?! I thought they were pirates! :arg

That's it. I'm quitting this show. :yell

[JeffStudios]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all.

the animes idea of ninjas is more original and entertaining than the regular idea.

and i asume you don't watch the anime very much cause there many evidences of "ninja" parts.

-Kunai
-ninja stars
-shuriken
etc

and if i heard clearly what does naruto want to be?...THE GREATEST NINJA!
naruto is everything "ninja".

its just a diffrent idea of it.

[Masaki]

the animes idea of ninjas is more original and entertaining than the regular idea.

and i asume you don't watch the anime very much cause there many evidences of "ninja" parts.

-Kunai
-ninja stars
-shuriken
etc

and if i heard clearly what does naruto want to be?...THE GREATEST NINJA!
naruto is everything "ninja".

its just a diffrent idea of it.

A. The kunai, ninja stars, shuriken, etc. aren't worth jack squat. When was the last time, hell, the first time that any of these made a difference? It was just in episode 1, hence the original poster's claim that Kishi did it just to make it look cool.

B. He wants to be Hokage. I don't recall him saying "greatest ninja".

[LilGaara]

Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

Yep. What's your point?

No one's saying Naruto is a realistic depiction of ninjas, or we'd all be raising questions about the prevalence of demon-toting pre-teens, sand-controlling sociopaths, or guys that can communicate with their puppies.

It's just a show, and a fine one at that.

[Blader]

the animes idea of ninjas is more original and entertaining than the regular idea.So the creator is trying to pass off Ninja's as more of a fighter? Why not just call them fighters, soldiers, or warriors? Seems more logical and realistic.

and i asume you don't watch the anime very much cause there many evidences of "ninja" parts.

-Kunai
-ninja stars
-shuriken
etcWell if you want to get all "tecnical" about it........

Besides that minor detail, this anime still has nothing to do with ninja's.

and if i heard clearly what does naruto want to be?...THE GREATEST NINJA!
naruto is everything "ninja".Still dumb, Naruto should rather be saying:

I WANT TO BE THE STRONGEST FIGHTER IN MY VILLAGE!!!

Cause' sayin' he wants to be the greatest ninja is more decieving, cause' he doesn't act like a ninja......at all.

[Blader]

Yep. What's your point?My point is that they are not Ninja's, but more like soldiers or warriors.

Duh.......

No one's saying Naruto is a realistic depiction of ninjas, or we'd all be raising questions about the prevalence of demon-toting pre-teens, sand-controlling sociopaths, or guys that can communicate with their puppies.I know, I'm not saying that this show is a real depiction of life. I'm just sayin' that this show has nothing to do with ninja's and that it would be more logical for the creator to just call them fighters and whatnot. But not ninja's.

It's just a show, and a fine one at that.
I never said it was a bad show.

[LilGaara]

My point is that they are not Ninja's, but more like soldiers or warriors.

This is purely a semantic objection, though.

I know, I'm not saying that this show is a real depiction of life. I'm just sayin' that this show has nothing to do with ninja's and that it would be more logical for the creator to just call them fighters and whatnot. But not ninja's.

Well, logic was not their goal here. Good entertainment was. Hence the psychotic 12-year-olds, dudes with bugs under their skin, and creepy lizard men that look like Michael Jackson.

I never said it was a bad show.

Why complain then? ;)

[J6sh]

I like entertainment.
I like Naruto.
Shut up.

[Blader]

This is purely a semantic objection, though. No, it's the truth. Ninja's are not fighters, they are assasins. They do missions about stealing things or killing people. They are stealthy about it too. They don't create wars, or cast magic, or summon giant creatures of doom. They don't have tournaments and fight head on.

The creator of this show created a Ninja like world, but with non-Ninja characters. The characters are more like mercenarys for hire, or soldiers that defend their village.



Well, logic was not their goal here. Good entertainment was. Hence the psychotic 12-year-olds, dudes with bugs under their skin, and creepy lizard men that look like Michael Jackson.I know. I'm just sayin' though.......



Why complain then? ;)Just cause' I like a show means that I can't tell it has flaws? I'm no fanboy.......

[Blader]

I like entertainment.Really? I like entertainment too.
I like Naruto.You know what else.......

I like Naruto too! Looks like we have two things in common then LOL'z.
Shut up.Wait, what's that? Can't handle the fact that there are some falws to this show?

[~Zaxxon~]

ppl......why drag this out?.....It's just a t.v. show.....:P

[Shinobi_God]

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like?

You fail! on the battle field ninjas are gonna be looking for other ninjas to kill not kids dressed in orange jumpsuits, see he even outsmarted you

[Nozomi-Momuchu]

Kishi just wanted to make a differant verison of ninja than what we think of right away. That's pretty much all that's to it. *Starts stabbing topic with a carrot*

[Catterix]

Its an anime. Duh.

Very few animes stick with what we consider them, the writers use a history/mythology as a basis and creates a world out of that. Hunter X Hunter? One Piece? Dragonball? Each of those had a basis, Hunter, Pirate, Martial Artist, but never stuck to the stereotypes.

You do know that Naruto wearing orange has actually been addressed in the show?

Its about Ninjas, quite clearly. It has Ninja mythology, ninja history, ninja tactics, ninja fighting styles, ninja ranks. What it hasn't got, is stereotypical people running around in black masks leaping around and killing people silently.

Why? Because that. would get. Boring.

He says its about Ninjas because it is. YOU just don't have a smidgen of imagination.

Cyas, love ya xxxxxxx

[Amatsu]

Um, they use ninja stars and katanas. So it does have something to do with ninjas.

So if I went around with a katana and throwing kunai everywhere would that make me a ninja? Cause that's basically what you're saying.

[Blader]

Its an anime. Duh.Duh.

Very few animes stick with what we consider them, the writers use a history/mythology as a basis and creates a world out of that. Hunter X Hunter?Never heard of it.

One Piece?One Piece is about pirates. Pirates kill, fight, steal, and lie. Those characters fit the theme in the anime. Naruot doesn't.

Dragonball?Dragonball had characters that fought, and they were called Z Warriors. Warriors fight, so those characters fit the theme in that anime. Naruto doesn't

Each of those had a basis, Hunter, Pirate, Martial Artist, but never stuck to the stereotypes.Wow, I would have never of figured that out on my own.........

You do know that Naruto wearing orange has actually been addressed in the show?No.......

Its about Ninjas, quite clearly. It has Ninja mythology, ninja history, ninja tactics, ninja fighting styles, ninja ranks. What it hasn't got, is stereotypical people running around in black masks leaping around and killing people silently.Thank you for agreeing with me. This show has a ninja outline, but not ninja like characters.

[bloodstains]

blader...get over it
if it bothers you then dont watch it

[Skoemie]

Just too be anoying but what is a Ninja?

No one realy knows what a ninja is... there are some storys and myths around them but who and what they realy are is still unkown...

Naruto follows more myths then anyother series I know... cause usually the only thing you see are masked fighters but that is never proven. Ninja in the old world where more like spy's and spy's try to blend in with the normal people so that's where Naruto and his clothes come in cause no one will think he's a ninja... and iff you don't know that the one your walking by is a ninja doesn't that make him more dangerus?
(sorry for my bad spelling english is not my prime language)

[Kon]

Meh, they are just modified ninjas. I don't really feel like arguing though.

[Blader]

blader...get over it
if it bothers you then dont watch itI'm just pointing out a flaw you 'tard. Jeez, are there this many stupid people here? It's bad enough that I'm getting negged just for telling the truth but, come on........

[Karin Maaka]

I actually agree with the OP.

In fact, Kishi originally wanted to make a manga about wizards and magic, but felt it would be way too similar to Harry Potter.

So then he went into the realm of ninja instead, and added the twists of magical creatures and impossible stunts into it.

The pilot for Naruto also even had guns, motorcycles, and really modern stuff in there, but still had ninja.

After that, Kishi made it a little less modern and took away the guns, cars, and motorcycles (I'm sure he put those in there due to him really wanting to work on a Mafia manga, which he said he will do once he's finished with Naruto).

Anyway, Naruto is defnitely not based on real ninja stuff. It is more based on the basic principles of being a ninja with a lot of twists added in.

[Amatsu]

Just too be anoying but what is a Ninja?

No one realy knows what a ninja is... there are some storys and myths around them but who and what they realy are is still unkown...

Naruto follows more myths then anyother series I know... cause usually the only thing you see are masked fighters but that is never proven. Ninja in the old world where more like spy's and spy's try to blend in with the normal people so that's where Naruto and his clothes come in cause no one will think he's a ninja... and iff you don't know that the one your walking by is a ninja doesn't that make him more dangerus?
(sorry for my bad spelling english is not my prime language)

Actually Naruto wears orange because it's a homage to Goku or something.

[bloodstains]

I'm just pointing out a flaw you 'tard. Jeez, are there this many stupid people here? It's bad enough that I'm getting negged just for telling the truth but, come on........

im not gonna neg you or anything.....its just its pretty dumb how people get worked up over something so pointless

[Blader]

I actually agree with the OP.

In fact, Kishi originally wanted to make a manga about wizards and magic, but felt it would be way too similar to Harry Potter.

So then he went into the realm of ninja instead, and added the twists of magical creatures and impossible stunts into it.

The pilot for Naruto also even had guns, motorcycles, and really modern stuff in there, but still had ninja.

After that, Kishi made it a little less modern and took away the guns, cars, and motorcycles (I'm sure he put those in there due to him really wanting to work on a Mafia manga, which he said he will do once he's finished with Naruto).

Anyway, Naruto is defnitely not based on real ninja stuff. It is more based on the basic principles of being a ninja with a lot of twists added in.Thank you. That's what I was trying to tell everyone but they all come back and neg me instead.

It seems this board isn't filled with morons after all.

[Masaki]

Its about Ninjas, quite clearly. It has Ninja mythology, ninja history, ninja tactics, ninja fighting styles, ninja ranks. What it hasn't got, is stereotypical people running around in black masks leaping around and killing people silently.

Why? Because that. would get. Boring.

He says its about Ninjas because it is. YOU just don't have a smidgen of imagination.


Guess what? When I first heard of One Piece, I'm thinking "Meh, Pirates couldn't be better than ninjas." I was mistaken on so many levels.

It doesn't matter what the theme of the story is, but it's how that theme is told. Naruto being told as a ninja story is completely wrong, and I can guarantee you that that's the only reason I got into it. Furthermore, other ninjas tended to dress casually and mix into crowds. Meanwhile, every Naruto character has this big forehead protector on saying where they're from. That's really ninja like. They don't even attempt to blend in.

Naruto is an anime about, practically, monsters.

[Amatsu]

If anything they're more like mercenaries than Ninja. Heck you want ninja then Grey Fox from Metal Gear Solid was more of a ninja than ANY Naruto character has ever been.

As for intelligent battles I've seen more intelligent battles in Konjiki no Gash Bell.

[Catterix]

LOL Aww is that the best you could come up with in response to my posts?! LMAO You just gave me a good laugh, cheers. I love how you haven't heard of HXH, one of the most famous animes out there... shows how ignorant you are.

And he calls it a flaw. Aww what a fucking retard :) Having them like this is an improvement, not a flaw.

Name one anime that actually ONLY had Ninjas, and as you actually describe them?

Thank you for agreeing with me. This show has a ninja outline, but not ninja like characters.

You said the show has nothing to do with Ninjas. Now you're saying it has a ninja outline? Actually, that was what I was saying. You were just rambling about some random shit. If you're going to troll here, at least stick to your point.

Blader can't even remember what he was saying, that's so adorably retarded xx

PS. I can't tell how much of his post is satire, but actually none of what zonic the hedgehog said is true... just point it out for those who might not have noticed :P

PPS. And Masaki, sorry, but what exactly was your point :S OP approaches Pirates better than Naruto approaches Ninjas... that was all I got out of it lol OP is brilliant, and thankfully, its nothing like real pirate stories... or else Luffy wouldn't exist :P

One piece is basically about... rubber people :amuse

[Masaki]

PPS. And Masaki, sorry, but what exactly was your point :S OP approaches Pirates better than Naruto approaches Ninjas... that was all I got out of it lol OP is brilliant, and thankfully, its nothing like real pirate stories... or else Luffy wouldn't exist :P

One piece is basically about... rubber people :amuse

They are a lot closer to pirates than Naruto is to ninjas.

Like I said, huge lack of stealth and blending in.

[Amatsu]

Name one anime that actually ONLY had Ninjas, and as you actually describe them?


Samurai Deeper Kyo

and excuse me One Piece is all about rubber people? Since when was everyone in One Piece made of rubber?

[Hired Sloth]

ANBU Black Ops.

Really, that's all this series needs to fulfill the requirement of "realistic ninja".

[Danny Lilithborne]

The Internet needs a "No Shit Sherlock" award, so it can be given to this post.

[Masaki]

ANBU Black Ops.

Really, that's all this series needs to fulfill the requirement of "realistic ninja".

ANBU seriously has one of the worst cases of The Krillan Complex that I have ever seen.

[Hired Sloth]

ANBU seriously has one of the worst cases of The Krillan Complex that I have ever seen.

... I honestly have no idea what that means, and would like you to go into more detail.

[Masaki]

... I honestly have no idea what that means, and would like you to go into more detail.

It's a term I made up.

The Krillan Complex - In a fictional story, a character's only significance toward the plot is to just be killed off to further the story and characters.

[Amatsu]

To put it more precisely... ANBU = unimportant cannon fodder who have absolutely no purpose to the story at all.

Nes Mikel's Naruto fanfictions does a better job portraying the Narutoverse as ninja's than Kishimoto does portraying them as ninja.

[Blader]

LOL Aww is that the best you could come up with in response to my posts?! LMAO You just gave me a good laugh, cheers.I'm happy that you found my posts amusing.:)

I love how you haven't heard of HXH, one of the most famous animes out there... shows how ignorant you are.I have a life, I can't just look at every anime all the time.

And he calls it a flaw. Aww what a fucking retard :) Having them like this is an improvement, not a flaw.It's a flaw because the characters in the anime are in a ninja like enviorment, yet those characters don't act like Ninja's at all.

Name one anime that actually ONLY had Ninjas, and as you actually describe them?I dunno.



You said the show has nothing to do with Ninjas. Now you're saying it has a ninja outline? Actually, that was what I was saying. You were just rambling about some random shit. If you're going to troll here, at least stick to your point.My fault. I admit that I overexaggerated when I said that this anime has nothing to do with ninja's. Yes this anime is about Ninja's, but the characters in it are not Ninja like at all. That sir, is a flaw. Naruto and his gang PHail at being ninja's. They are more like mercenarys.

Blader can't even remember what he was saying, that's so adorably retarded xxNope, I guess not.

[Jetstorm]

It has something to do with ninja it is just that they aren't ninja in the traditional sense. Actually in the beginning of the series the main character is the far from what a ninja should be. Ninja are suppose to be stealthy while Naruto shoots his mouth off and announces his presence to the entire world.

[Karin Maaka]

PS. I can't tell how much of his post is satire, but actually none of what zonic the hedgehog said is true... just point it out for those who might not have noticed

I'm quite sure a lot of it is, or at least, according to what I've read. =\

The pilot thing is DEFINITELY true, just go and read it if you don't believe me. Same with the Mafia thing, since I read that in an interview article.

The first statement I know I've seen somewhere, but I can't quite remember where exactly that I heard that.
Actually, I do remember seeing early designs of the wizard character he drew for what his initial magic manga was going to be (and it really did look like Harry Potter o_O), so I think it is.

EDIT: Fuck this, I'm posting a picture:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/113/narutopilot25sy9.jpg

As you can see, there are guns in the pilot of Naruto, and I'd imagine that the sidestory of Naruto being framed is taken from that Mafia manga Kishi wants to do (the element, at least).

[Hired Sloth]

It's a term I made up.

The Krillan Complex - In a fictional story, a character's only significance toward the plot is to just be killed off to further the story and characters.

... Oh. That still puts them one step above characters like Dosu, who died so Shikamaru could continue fighting girls.

[Catterix]

Samurai Deeper Kyo

and excuse me One Piece is all about rubber people? Since when was everyone in One Piece made of rubber?

That had demons in. So it doesnt count in what Blazer sees as a Ninja Story (ie. only ninjas and nothing else)

And I was joking about the rubber thing. Bloody hell... You totally missed my point.

(But if you wantA Aethos, I'll respond in the same mentality and immaturity as yours)

Monsters? Excuse me Naruto is all about monsters? Since when did everyone in Naruto have a monster inside them?

Dude, chill out.

And Blazer... Whilst I commend you on having a life (Seriously, you have no idea how many people here as that sad) but I would suggest doing your research before making statements like this.

You basically have no claim, sorry mate :P

You're right though, Naruto isn't all and only about Ninjas, and that's why its good :)

PS. You should also know that you've only posted what everyone already knew. So yeah, this thread bores me... and I need sleep.

Toodles.

[Amatsu]

And I was joking about the rubber thing. Bloody hell... You totally missed my point.

(But if you wantA Aethos, I'll respond in the same mentality and immaturity as yours)



Go ahead. Though I don't get where you get your claims of me being immature from. Is it because I agree with the topic creator?

If I did miss your point that was my mistake and I apologize but I don't see how you're acting more mature than me especially when you have to go and call people immature. After all what does that say about you then?

[KazumaSakuraUchiha]

i agree with some of it, but it does have alot to do with it, and having them charge head on at you is usually never, as theres always some cath behind the attack (I.E. clone, hidden jutsu, trap ect) they dont normally JUST charge head on alone, but the whole stealth thing is never used by them, or if they ever try they are found out immediatley which makes it useless, but it does have alot to do with ninjas, give or take a few key things :/

[Catterix]

Aethos: Aah the vicious cycle. The Immature taking the role of maturity to name those below it. Sorry lol, but your response just came off that way, you took what I said litterally, when that wasn't the point, and even made an act to defend OP when it wasnt necessary, as I now actually like OP more than Naruto, ep 183 swade me.

Anyways my "immature" resonse was what I wrote below, I wrote basically the same as you had said, but in responce to what Masaki had said. He said Naruto was all about Monsters, which really is not true, but are an element of it, like all good ninja mythology stories. So I said OP was about rubber people, which it isn't, but there a large part of it is about a... rubber person lol.

And the Ninjas do still use stealth, the Genin don't because they're kids and foolhardy, though Shikamaru does. But many times we've seen the jounins use stealth or tricks to trap their enemies. Then only time when they dont charge on is when the two opposing forces are so strong there's no need.

Now, yeah, having the story be so that it has characters that are that powerful is a little "un-ninja" but then again, seeing as nearly every ninja anime is like that... maybe that IS what Ninja TV shows are like, and we're just ignorant westerners who only think of Ninjas as the stereotypes we see on our own TV shows. Wouldn't be the first time...

Like Masaki said, with all the blending in with the crowd stuff, thats only our own perception and take on it, and Naruto is Kishi's take on it. And actually, the headbands seem to work fine with blending in as no one in the naruto world seems to notice them until they're pointed at :P And anyway, the ninja headbands are themes of the story that transcend actual narrative. That much should be obvious :P

Hmm... I thought I would supposed to be bored of this thread? :S Oh wells.

[Amatsu]

Aethos: Aah the vicious cycle. The Immature taking the role of maturity to name those below it. Sorry lol, but your response just came off that way, you took what I said litterally, when that wasn't the point, and even made an act to defend OP when it wasnt necessary, as I now actually like OP more than Naruto, ep 183 swade me.

It was a mistake. I hardly think that has anything to do with maturity. I just skimmed your post and saw that. Had I read the whole thing I'm sure I would have seen that you weren't being serious. I doubt I'm immature if I have the balls to actually admit my mistakes.

Would it be right of me to question if you're in that vicious cycle of maturity then? I mean there are times at least in this thread where you come off as a certain person who quite frankly annoys me because he does that same sort of thing and to be honest I'd rather not go and claim you're immature because I think you're better than that.

I have a good opinion of you I'd rather not see that ruined because of this thread.

Anyways my "immature" resonse was what I wrote below, I wrote basically the same as you had said, but in responce to what Masaki had said. He said Naruto was all about Monsters, which really is not true, but are an element of it, like all good ninja mythology stories. So I said OP was about rubber people, which it isn't, but there a large part of it is about a... rubber person lol.

I still don't see how my comment was immature. Sure it was out of context and I made the mistake of not fully reading your post but that doesn't make it immature. After all if you did that I wouldn't think you're immature I'd just point you to what I actually said. To be honest you're coming off as very rude.

To be honest I feel the word ninja has no meaning in Naruto because it's so interchangable. You could call them warriors, martial artists, mercenaries and they'd be the exact same thing. Naruto ninja's are far from what traditional ninja's are. Even if Kishimoto was going a different route he still should have tried to keep them as traditional as possible otherwise they aren't ninja's just mercenaries.

[-RONIN-]

This show has a ninja outline, but not ninja like characters.

So. *ahem*

Plot Aside....

What would you prefer:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles > Naruto characters

or

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles < Naruto characters

Sorry that was just random, I needed a laugh......

[Amatsu]

The Oniwabanshuu from Rurouni Kenshin were considered ninja-like and they followed that profession better than Naruto characters do.

[BakeKitsune]

theyr ninjas coz they dont march to battle they use guerilla tactics and are acrobatic.

ninjas used to be acrobats and then later employed for spy operations. so in that case naruto has EVERYTHING to do with ninjas, coz they wear fancy dress and do lots of backflips n shiet.

[Smokes]

Those "magic tricks" are jutsus. They are supposed to be stealthy, and are for the most part, but Naruto isn't. They wear different clothes so we can tell them apart, and if they wear black all the time, it looks like a funeral anyway. They take their opponents head on because they aren't pussies.

[J6sh]

Really? I like entertainment too.
Can't handle the fact that there are some falws to this show?

Everything has it's flaws, I don't see why you get worked up over it. TV is about entertainment, not reality (unless you count "reality TV"). You can't expect, of all things, an anime series to stick to real life ninjitsu, that's boring.

So to answer your question, I can handle it fine, I didn't make a thread complaining about it's lack of realism. You are the one who can't handle shows with flaws.

[Kei Kurono]

Somethings in Naruto have to do with ninjas but other times it's mostly super powers and magic of such.

[mystictrunks]

Kishi didn't even want to ue ninjas,thats why they're not very 'ninja' like.

[Cesc Fabregas]

HAH! to bee honest, watching naruto has changed my views on ninjas!! when i see ninja in their 'traditional' garb on TV & films im like 'wtf!! wheres the headband?!! get out of here!!!!' LOL!!

[Masaki]

... Oh. That still puts them one step above characters like Dosu, who died so Shikamaru could continue fighting girls.

Not really, Dosu played a rather large role in the Forest of Death before he was killed off.


Anyways my "immature" resonse was what I wrote below, I wrote basically the same as you had said, but in responce to what Masaki had said. He said Naruto was all about Monsters, which really is not true, but are an element of it, like all good ninja mythology stories. So I said OP was about rubber people, which it isn't, but there a large part of it is about a... rubber person lol.


Someone move this to the House of Uzumaki or the Konoha Library so I can get more in depth.

[BeansyMcPork]

No, it's the truth. Ninja's are not fighters, they are assasins. They do missions about stealing things or killing people. They are stealthy about it too. They don't create wars, or cast magic, or summon giant creatures of doom. They don't have tournaments and fight head on.

The creator of this show created a Ninja like world, but with non-Ninja characters. The characters are more like mercenarys for hire, or soldiers that defend their village.


I hate to break it to you, but I'm not sure there's been a show or movie that accurately reflects what real ninjas were like that has ever been made, at least that's made it over to the West. They did not wear all black (in fact in that respect Naruto actually is somewhat accurate (those chunin/jounin vests aside), as ninjas often wore normal clothing to blend in with typical civilian folk). They rarely used swords. They didn't use smoke bombs and they probably didn't use throwing stars very much. They _did_ use kunai blades, because kunai blades were gardening tools and inconspicuous to be carrying around. They were most definitely assassins, but they were much more likely to be disguised as peasant farmers or gardeners or cooks or some other type of mundane occupation that would let them get close to their target than they were to be sneaking around in the shadows or climbing trees.

[Masaki]

I hate to break it to you, but I'm not sure there's been a show or movie that accurately reflects what real ninjas were like that has ever been made, at least that's made it over to the West. They did not wear all black (in fact in that respect Naruto actually is somewhat accurate (those chunin/jounin vests aside), as ninjas often wore normal clothing to blend in with typical civilian folk). They rarely used swords. They didn't use smoke bombs and they probably didn't use throwing stars very much. They _did_ use kunai blades, because kunai blades were gardening tools and inconspicuous to be carrying around. They were most definitely assassins, but they were much more likely to be disguised as peasant farmers or gardeners or cooks or some other type of mundane occupation that would let them get close to their target than they were to be sneaking around in the shadows or climbing trees.

And only one person fits into this: Haku

The rest have this forehead protectors announcing that they are ninja before anyone has to talk to them.

[MangekyoMaster]

actually ninjas were quite similar to samurai in that they were warriors. their only real difference was that they needed to conceal their weapons so they wouldn't be
mistaken for samurais. also incidentally fact the historical ninja used smoke bombs to in aid in escape.

[Abyss of Dreams]

Uh is there something wrong with you? Naruto is clearly about ninjas, the weapons they use, tricks, being silent, etc. As for the orange suit crack, Kishi wanted to make his ninjas different and not like how people interpret ninjas. When people say ninja, they're probably thinkin of guys wearing all black w/ mask and niinja stars or with a katana, running silenting in the night and killin people. Could you imagine what the show's ratings would be if that happened? The older viewers would think it's crap and unoriginal, so Kishi made them different so they could be more original and sides I myself would never watch a show that was unoriginal enough to make ninjas actually wear all black and such, that would be cancelled in bout 2 weeks after airing.

[Masaki]

Could you imagine what the show's ratings would be if that happened?

Honestly, the word "ninja" was what brought people to the series, and it didn't deliver.

[Amatsu]

I bet if there was a ninja gaiden anime it'd be a far better depiction of ninja's than Naruto is and it'd be more popular too.

[Blader]

Everything has it's flaws, I don't see why you get worked up over it.I'm not getting worked up, I'm just pointing out a flaw. You are the one getting worked up.


TV is about entertainment, not reality (unless you count "reality TV"). You can't expect, of all things, an anime series to stick to real life ninjitsu, that's boring.It's better for an anime to be somewhat realistic so that we in real life can relate to the show. Kishi saying that Naruto is abunch of Ninja's are deciving. They are more like fighters than assasins.

What if I amde an anime about cat people, yet those cat people act more like dogs? See where I'm getting at?

So to answer your question, I can handle it fine, I didn't make a thread complaining about it's lack of realism. You are the one who can't handle shows with flaws.I can handle shows having flaws too (GT), I'm just pointing one out though. Doesn't mean I hate the show. It's just that it's kind of stupid having fighters being called ninja's.

[Blader]

So. *ahem*

Plot Aside....

What would you prefer:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles > Naruto characters

or

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles < Naruto characters

Sorry that was just random, I needed a laugh......
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles of course.

[Ninja-G33k]

I'm just pointing out a flaw you 'tard.
Everything is flawed. Your point?
It's better for an anime to be somewhat realistic so that we in real life can relate to the show.If you have trouble relating to the show, that says more about you than the show...

[Blader]

Everything is flawed. Your point?My point is that the people in Naruto don't act like Ninja's. That's my point.

How many times must I repeat this?



If you have trouble relating to the show, that says more about you than the show...I don't get it?:huh

[Ninja-G33k]

My point is that the people in Naruto don't act like Ninja's. That's my point.Thank you for clarifying.

Now, would you mind explaining, in view of that fact that I'm well aware of this, why I should care? Naruto is, ahead of everything else, an adventure story, nothing more and nothing less, and it does a bang-up job of being one.
I don't get it?:huhIf you have trouble relating to the story, that is your problem, not the story's.

Click the spoiler tag in my sig to discover what Kishimoto-sensei is really trying to tell us...

[kyubbidemon]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

Let me ask this one question. WHO THE HELL CARES? Its a freakin show.
Who said it had to to be realilistic? Quit acting like a noob.:notrust

[DeepThought]

History of ninjas:

1. Ninjas were created by remote villages that developed fighting styles to protect themselves from bandits or other larger numbers (by fighting dirty)

2. They were secret vilages (I.E. they didn't advertise their skill and acted like simple farmers... which they were)

3. Rumors and legends of these hidden warriors spread. The mysterious ninja-lore incoorporated tales of supernatural powers. Ninja villages propogated these legends as a form of psychological warfare. (If people thought they could breath fire and fly... let them)

4. Eventually, "Lord's" would hire ninja villages to do their dirty work (unhonorable deeds that samurai would not commit) Spying, assassinations, and the like. Soon, villages were secretly sponsored by officials and ninjas were specialized.

Compare with Naruto:
- Ninja village? check
- Mercenary Ninjas hired by officials? check
- Ninja magic? Oh that's a big check!
- Ninja's mysterious reputation? check
- Dirty tricks? check (It's not all just fighting, there's plenty of deception)
- Main character is a ninja? check


Do your research!
Thread over!

Orange jumpsuit? Naruto is the worst ninja ever remember? I think his outfit is perfect for that title!

[ShounenSuki]

Actually, Naruto has quite a lot to do with ninja.
The original ninja from Japanese history and mythology, that is.

Japanese myths about ninja are full of magic, demons, giant animals and the like. In fact, most of the techniques you see in Naruto have been directly or indirectly based on the magic acts ninja were supposed to have been able to do, according to Japanese myth.
Shadow Bind, the clone techniques, the elemental techniques... All come from the ninja legends. Many of the characters have also been based on historical or legendary ninja (including the Third Hokage, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, and Kiba)

[Amatsu]

Thank you for clarifying.

Now, would you mind explaining, in view of that fact that I'm well aware of this, why I should care? Naruto is, ahead of everything else, an adventure story, nothing more and nothing less, and it does a bang-up job of being one.
If you have trouble relating to the story, that is your problem, not the story's.

Click the spoiler tag in my sig to discover what Kishimoto-sensei is really trying to tell us...

Not necessarily. Not everyone can relate to the story because most people on here are no longer pre-pubescent teenagers who are all into hot topic and all that crap or most of the people on here were never as emo and crap as Naruto characters seem to be making it impossible to relate to said characters.

Oh and even if YOU can relate to the story doesn't mean it's an overall good story.

[Haruko]

It is not the conventional view of Ninja but neither is One Piece conventional pirating

[Track]

How many ninja do you people know? I mean sheesh, it's about as close to being about ninja as anything else that holds credibilty in the world now days.

[Neji]

i disagree

[Danny Lilithborne]

My point is that the people in Naruto don't act like Ninja's. That's my point.
They also exist in a time with VCRs and refrigerators but no cars or guns.

No offense, but your point sucks. ^_^

[Rezo]

i disagree

I concur with your terse statement, Neji.

[BeansyMcPork]

Look, I just wanna say:

Of course Naruto is about ninjas. It's not historically accurate but that's because it's also a fantasy show aimed at younger folks, and hell, very, very few ninja shows or movies of any kind are remotely accurate depictions of what ninjas were really like.

People should not expect an accurate depiction of ninjas in a show like Naruto anymore than they should expect an accurate depiction of medieval knights in a show like Escaflowne. While certainly it should be consistent in it's own internal logic (really this is a benefit to almost any sort of tv show that isn't a comedy, and I think Naruto does reasonably well in this regard(filler aside)), it wasn't meant to be a historically accurate account of ninjas nor a realistic depiction of what ninjas would be like if they were around today, and it's silly and pointless to argue about it (in fact at this point I'm not exactly sure what we're arguing about).

[theender1987]

Go ahead. Though I don't get where you get your claims of me being immature from. Is it because I agree with the topic creator?

If I did miss your point that was my mistake and I apologize but I don't see how you're acting more mature than me especially when you have to go and call people immature. After all what does that say about you then?

Wow Aethos, you're still at it eh?

It seems that you only come on this forum, looking to see if there are any trolls making new threads stating about how much they hate Naruto, and then agree with them no matter how stupid they are.

Why do you do it? It must be because people do the same thing on the One Piece forums and that makes you compelled to bite back. Didn't you say that you were sick of the bashing that both animes get?

Don't become apart of the problem, just let it go over your head.

[Michael Jordan]

Kishi didn't even want to ue ninjas,thats why they're not very 'ninja' like.

what he said

[Amatsu]

Wow Aethos, you're still at it eh?

It seems that you only come on this forum, looking to see if there are any trolls making new threads stating about how much they hate Naruto, and then agree with them no matter how stupid they are.

Why do you do it? It must be because people do the same thing on the One Piece forums and that makes you compelled to bite back. Didn't you say that you were sick of the bashing that both animes get?

Don't become apart of the problem, just let it go over your head.

I'm confused... Still at what exactly? But to answer your question yeah pretty much. I do feel compelled to bite back because the NaruTards just don't know when to quit. Then again One Piece wasn't really mentioned at all in this thread so... I don't really see what that has to do with why I'm agreeing with the topic creator. I never really thought Naruto ninja's were never true ninja's anyways. I see no reason why I can't agree.

After all they could be called mercenaries or soldiers and it'd still be the same story but just less popular because the term ninja isn't used. I seriously doubt most people got into Naruto other than because they heard the word ninja and fangasmed believing they were reading a ninja series when it's not even close. Heck I once believed that myself before I started looking at the actual story instead of the term they use to describe themselves.

Oh and before you say it no I didn't get into One Piece because of pirates. Heck I didn't even give a damn about pirates. I got into it because of the story. THe thing is that Kishimoto went for a ninja manga but failed to deliver after the Zabuza arc. That's just my opinion though.

As for becoming part of the problem that's not my intention but I've learned that it's common in this fandom for people to point fingers instead of thinking things through. Heck knows I've been guilty of that sometimes.

I'm still convinced until otherwise that Grey Fox from Metal Gear Solid is a far better ninja than any Naruto character has ever been.

[Blader]

Thank you for clarifying.

Now, would you mind explaining, in view of that fact that I'm well aware of this, why I should care? Naruto is, ahead of everything else, an adventure story, nothing more and nothing less, and it does a bang-up job of being one.Yeah the show is great, but the characters are not Ninja like at all. Just felt like saying' something about it is all........

[reddik]

Kishi just wanted to make a differant verison of ninja than what we think of right away. That's pretty much all that's to it. *Starts stabbing topic with a carrot*

[Melero]

Well they use jutsu's and only ninjas can use jutsus and they use ninja weapons like kunai and shuriken.

But really, the "real" ninjas that you're probably talking about
are the anbu black ops.

[ShounenSuki]

The show is about ninja. Just not the ninja known from Western stereotypes, but those known from Japanese legends. These legends depict ninja as super-human beings capable of using extraordinary magic and fighting terrible demons.

Many, if not all, of the techniques the Naruto ninja use are based on techniques the real, historical ninja were supposed to be able to use. Controlling the elements, Chidori, Summoning, Shadow bind, Body switch. All come from real myths

Also, a lot of the characters from Naruto were based on historical or legendary ninja. These include Orochimaru, the Third Hokage, Jiraiya, Kiba, etc.

In fact, Naruto himself is one of the few characters that doesn't act ninja-like, but this fits in with his personality.

[Wilham]

Sweet baby jesus, its only a manga/anime. Its kishis world and he can do whatever he pleases. Sure there may be flaws but what piece of work doesn't. No matter what there will be something off or wrong.

[lightning ninja]

1-the show kicks ass any way
2-they use ninja weapons like suriken katanas and kunai
3-ninjas actually use ninjutsu just not like the ones they have in the show
4-no one said you have to wear all black to be a ninja
5-its a cartoon
6-stop pmsing over it

[Geg]

Naruto is about ninjas in the same way One Piece is about pirates.

[R_Lee86]

Naruto is about ninjas in the same way One Piece is about pirates.

exactly, its fiction, it doesnt have to work.

[WolfKiDD]

obviously...
cuz pirates in real life didn't save people's lives and whatnot, they would smuggle stuff for their own gain.

Japanese manga isn't to be taken literally and whoever posted this is a hater.

FICTION

actually... this thread's already been sorted out so why am i posting >.< doh!

..lol shikamaru ftw XD

[Fonster Mox]

Don't you think Naruto wearing bright orange was an in-joke? Surely that one can't have slipped by you.

If you think about it most of the missions are ninja-like, they just always get into strange and difficult circumstances along the way. Like Zabuza's assassination mission, Kabuto's spy missions, the infiltration of Konoha by the sand, the attempted stealing of the secret scroll. If all the missions in Naruto went successfully, it would seem like true ninja stuff. But then, that wouldn't make for a very good show :)

[HugeGuy]

To be honest, none of the Shounen Trinity portray their theme the conventional way. Pirates do not go saving one island at a time and shinigamis do not fight monsters calles hollows.

But IMO what makes Naruto so unacceptable to some people is that there was a drastic change of style the way ninjas fight. In the beginning, you have perfectly planned out strategies, ambushes, detailed explaination of each jutsus(often even showing their handseals) and most importantly, the fights aren't over the top. Ninjas are still mortals and they don't change landscape with a single attack.

However, since the Chuunin Exam everything took a 180 degree turn. You now have big flashy attacks, huge explosions that are completely incapable of stealth and strategies have gradually faded away except for Shikamaru fights. Just look at Akatsuki. Everyone shown so far is a freak, even Itachi. It's hard to believe once, a normal person like Zabuza could be an A-ranked ninja when the world is filled with so many immortals, demons and modified warriors. It just gives you the feeling that somewhere, Naruto has sidetracked.

The other two Trinity series(and maybe every other series), however inaccurate the portrayal of their themes are, have managed to stay true to their foundation. Good pirates like Luffy has always been there from the start and shinigamis have fought the hollows for centuries.

Most people just can't adjust themselves to the drastic change Naruto had after being mislead by the first impression the series had on them.

[Nicky The Ninja]

From what I have seen so far in Naruto it has more to do with magic and super powers than just ninja things.

[Sasuke Sharingan]

I keep thinking that it's like a teaching cartoon to me

[Amatsu]

Heh it's no wonder people compare Naruto to Harry Potter. In a way it's like a Japanese version of it. :laugh

[shadow_wisp]

Ah, the anime series naruto is pretty much about ninjas.
Watch the episodes and you should find out
how much it is about ninjas.

[303aegiszx]

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?


I'll be straight forward with you. Why does the MAIN character wear and ORANGE jump suit? So he can stand out. He's the main character. He's an idiot but he's trying. One of the messages of this anime is that anyone can achieve the dream they have if they try hard enough.

Oh so they aren't following old traditions and sneak attacking. The creator wants to spice it up a little, yeah? Do you think just because you believe a ninja is a "certain way" he does too? Maybe he has his own vision of a ninja is to him. A ninja IS a soldier, a ninja IS a warrior, they fight, have honor and are strong individuals. Yes in my opinion a ninja should be swift less. Naruto goes against that, because he's a loud orange clown. But he still gets the job done, doesn't he? Now that is entertainment. They kind of have to make it direct attacks for entertainment.

I believe this show has a lot to do with ninjas. They go on missions, they can jump from tree to tree (lol wtf? <.<), they know how to kill with their jutsu and fighting styles. The new generation of ninjas are so wonderful ^_^

[MangekyoMaster]

ninjas are warriors. the historical ninja was similar to a sammauri.
the historical ninja even used smoke bombs as a means of escape.

[Kyuriko]

So maybe Kishimoto Masashi took a several creative liberties with his series. Is that so wrong? Besides, it is a cartoon; it is just entertainment, and you shouldn't really expect complete historical accuracy, especially not when you consider the target audience of Naruto, anyway. As for the orange jumpsuit, it was intentional.

[~Gesy~]

i guess you never played ninja gaiden:notrust

[Shurikien]

who's to say what a ninja is?

have you ever SEEN a ninja?

[~Gesy~]

who's to say what a ninja is?

have you ever SEEN a ninja?

if you did you would be dead:oh

[wolfninja26]

this gives me alot to think about

[Sedres]

Alternate reality ninjas! :D
(Which are entertaining to watch).

[Sedres]

if you did you would be dead:oh

"I am ninja, he is ninja, she is nin-ja-too! I am ninja, we are ninja, and I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE NINJA TOO!"

[Amatsu]

if you did you would be dead:oh

Too bad you wouldn't die by a Naruto ninja's hands. You could easily escape while they have some really emo internal monolouge.

[King Bookah]

Please, almost every shonen manga series has multitudes of uneccessary monologues. I wonder what's up with that.

As for the accuracy of Naruto ninjas, does it really matter? It's a children's comic book for god sakes. You don't see me watch DBZ and go "Hey martial artists can blow up a planet." Nor do you see me go "Pirates don't stretch." while reading OP. It's just entertainment people, open your mind alittle bit and won't bother you that much.

This reminds me of Genji and the the Giant Enemy crabs. "This ain't historically accurate, they didn't fight giant crabs in Japan." LOL, good times.

[Amatsu]

I was just saying that's all... I mean you wouldn't see Ryu Hayabusa having an internal monolouge until after he killed your ass. Now that's a ninja. Heck I bet a real ninja like Ryu could take out those poser ninja's like nothing.

...I'd even throw in Grey Fox in his cyborg ninja gear too cause they'd be an awesome ninja tag team.

Besides Naruto characters aren't exactly emotionless killers like how ninja are supposed to be. They're more like emotionally conflicted pacifists.

[Run.The.Animal]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

So "ninja" can only have one meaning? If one author can make up a word, why can't another bend the meaning of a word that already exists?

I don't understand what compelled you to say bad things a popular manga, that we're left to assume you yourself enjoy. Regardless, you should keep childish trivialities to yourself.

[Amatsu]

Yes the topic creator should be ashamed for talking bad about a manga that's only popular in America... Oh and the UK but that's because they get everything from us. ::shrugs::

Naruto's not even all that popular in Japan.

[Shurikien]

you're a smelly turd!!!!!!!!!!

why the hell are you even here if you don't like naruto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(hopefully this will attract negative rep :))

[~Kyo~]

u lose-- getting negative rep now!

[Shurikien]

oh, lets make a double post...

Ken~sama, exactly what i was trying to get around. Who are you to say what a 'ninja' is? "Besides Naruto characters aren't exactly emotionless killers like how ninja are supposed to be. They're more like emotionally conflicted pacifists." Who the F^^k cares? Who sat down and said, ninjas HAVE to be EXACTLY like this. No one can be creative, or original and think for themselves. You all must be commonist brainwashed pigs that can't think for themselves. No one. Who the hell are you to say what is and isn't. Go f^^k yourself toad


(waits for my negative rep)

[Comic Book Guy]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

Fiction is fiction.

However, what's sad is that one person actually believes Naruto depicted ninjas accurately. Jutsus included.

[Amatsu]

Who the F^^k cares? Who sat down and said, ninjas HAVE to be EXACTLY like this. No one can be creative, or original and think for themselves. You all must be commonist brainwashed pigs that can't think for themselves. No one. Who the hell are you to say what is and isn't. Go f^^k yourself toad


(waits for my negative rep)

Um because that's what ninja's are? Also I don't see how Kishimoto copying from other manga's shows how original or creative he is.

Geez that's Naruto fans for you... Whenever they hear something they don't agree with the first thing they do is start cussing people out.

[MangekyoMaster]

Fiction is fiction.

However, what's sad is that one person actually believes Naruto depicted ninjas accurately. Jutsus included.

actually Naruto depicts ninjas a little more accurately than you think. The historical ninja actually used smoke bombs to escape.

[Amatsu]

actually Naruto depicts ninjas a little more accurately than you think. The historical ninja actually used smoke bombs to escape.

and when have they ever used smoke bombs? Naruto ninja's that is.

[Shurikien]

why the F^^k are you here if you aren't a naruto fan?

you'd rather watch pokemon?

[Jarman]

A ninja is a mercenary agent, highly trained in martial arts and stealth (ninjutsu), who are hired for covert purposes ranging from espionage to sabotage and assassination. So characters in Naruto are considerd ninja's. Dont want to take my opinion look up the word ninja in the dictionary.

[Un]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

Your opinion is yours, and I will respect it, but fail for "ninja's" instead of ninja.

[GrandTheftAutumn]

Sure it does! Real ninjas wear orange jumpsuits! Everyone knows that! :D

[Un]

and when have they ever used smoke bombs? Naruto ninja's that is.

Kiba used smoke bombs against Naruto in the Prelims.

[Amatsu]

why the F^^k are you here if you aren't a naruto fan?

you'd rather watch pokemon?

Maybe I'm here because I used to like Naruto but I now stay around to hang with the friends I've made on this forum? Plus post in some of the non-Naruto sections from time to time.

And yes... Yes I would rather watch pokemon. I actually find it more entertaining. Why? Are you one of those people who think "POKEYMAN IZ TEH GHEY!!111"

[Danny Lilithborne]

Pokemon?!

*cue Bill Cosby spasm*

[Amatsu]

Wow I really sense the maturity of the NaruTards in this thread. Especially the n00bs who fail at neg repping with their lame generic insults. You're not really convincing me that the Naruto fandom is good you know... In fact you're pretty much convincing me I was right all along with how bad I feel the fandom truly is.

and Danny... I LOL'd

[Comic Book Guy]

actually Naruto depicts ninjas a little more accurately than you think. The historical ninja actually used smoke bombs to escape.

To clarify, one poster believes ninjas actually used jutsus.

And by that, I mean that futons, suitons, and were actually used by real life ninjas.

[ShounenSuki]

To clarify, one poster believes ninjas actually used jutsus.

And by that, I mean that futons, suitons, and were actually used by real life ninjas.

Actually, the words fuuton, suiton, katon, etc. were taken from actual ninjutsu techniques. The literally mean "[element] escape" and basically involved using that specific element to create a diversion so you can easiliy escape. (I know that at least Katon (fire escape) was used by real ninja)

Besides this, ninja were also able to walk on water and walls, albeit with special equipment and, as I've said before, in the Japanese legends about ninja, they are often depicted as being able to do magic. Magic including being able to make multiple 'clones' of themselves, the ability to summon or turn into huge animals, the ability to make someone unable to move by merely capturing one's shadow, either with one's own shadow, or through a weapon (believed to be a kind of hypnosis).

Of course the ninja in Naruto aren't exact depictions of how real-life ninja were, but they aren't supposed to be. They're simply based on both real-life and legendary ninja, together with other parts of Japanese/Chinese mythology and history.

[Shurikien]

Pokemon?!

*cue Bill Cosby spasm*

with deh pokey, and the mon?



I want negative rep, haven't you noticedt hat, its sort of easy to tell....

and why should i care if you like naruto, i don't care if ANYONE likes naruto,

and 'generic insults' ie. n00b

[Danny Lilithborne]

I'd rather watch Zatch Bell than Naruto, so no judgments ahoy.

[Amatsu]

I'd rather watch Zatch Bell than Naruto, so no judgments ahoy.

Same here Gash Bell is full of win and awesome.

Though that Narultimate Accel preview really did bring back whatever love I lost for the Naruto series... though I'm sure Kishimoto will cause me to lose it again at some point.

[sukettebayo]

Maybe I'm here because I used to like Naruto but I now stay around to hang with the friends I've made on this forum? Plus post in some of the non-Naruto sections from time to time.

And yes... Yes I would rather watch pokemon. I actually find it more entertaining. Why? Are you one of those people who think "POKEYMAN IZ TEH GHEY!!111"

WTF are you talikng about!?!?!? I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a knife covered in lemon juice than watch more than 2 minutes of the easily duplicated episodes of todays pokemon. Why not bring back the old charcters from the old show and make different episode with a different formula each time it airs.

for example pokemon today has a formula like this...

1.Ash and the gang meet minor character that will never be seen or mentioned every again (okay maybe but with a different name and hairstyle)...

2.Ash hears the minor characters dilema and trys to help...

3.team rocket steals some pokemon and pikachu does thunderbolt attack sending team rocket flying into a star...

4.by defeating Team rocket, Ash and freinds help the minor charcter achieve his/her dream and everyone is happy....
especially you stupid viewers who enjoy watching the same show with a different name.

Get a life, bro!!!!

[Danny Lilithborne]

1.Naruto and the gang meet minor character that will never be seen or mentioned every again (okay maybe but with a different name and hairstyle)...

2.Naruto hears the minor characters dilema and trys to help...

3.generic villain steals some pokemon and pikachu does thunderbolt attack sending generic villain flying into a star...

4.by defeating generic villain, Naruto and freinds help the minor charcter achieve his/her dream and everyone is happy....

Okay, maybe no Pikachus, but other than that, it's pretty damn close.

[Shurikien]

WTF are you talikng about!?!?!? I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a knife covered in lemon juice than watch more than 2 minutes of the easily duplicated episodes of todays pokemon. Why not bring back the old charcters from the old show and make different episode with a different formula each time it airs.

for example pokemon today has a formula like this...

1.Ash and the gang meet minor character that will never be seen or mentioned every again (okay maybe but with a different name and hairstyle)...

2.Ash hears the minor characters dilema and trys to help...

3.team rocket steals some pokemon and pikachu does thunderbolt attack sending team rocket flying into a star...

4.by defeating Team rocket, Ash and freinds help the minor charcter achieve his/her dream and everyone is happy....
especially you stupid viewers who enjoy watching the same show with a different name.

Get a life, bro!!!!

amen.

how does it have anything to do with catching them all? :cry

[Shurikien]

Okay, maybe no Pikachus, but other than that, it's pretty damn close.

*laughs his ass off*

what character is never going to be mentioned again? near every character is going to have a big part later.

What minor delima? Its all about naruto's journey, or the sand/sound village vs. the leaf village. Either one of those or an exciting battle, which is comepletly realative to the plot, not like pokemon, which randomly makes up plots to entertain little kids on their weekends.

What generic villian? They seem unique to me. and pokemon doesn't even try, they just use the same villian over and over, its annoying as hell.

Again with the minor characters, name one and i'll be satasfied.

all in all, that was a dumb post.

[Shiron]

All the immurity in this thread is dissapointing me. :( Ah well, I suppose nothing else should be expected from fandoms of well... anything.

Anyway, I agree with the OP. The Naruto ninjas just don't seem very much like ninjas to me and it kind of annoys me in a way that he's calling them ninjas. This is something that Kishimoto's brother did better than him, IMO. He actually created the term "OPTs" instead of just calling the characters something they're not. I wish Kishimoto had just done something like this, creating a unique term or something, instead of calling them ninjas when really the majority of them aren't.

Ah well, it's not liek this really matters, but is just kind of annoyance. Like someone said, you wouldn't call something a "Cat-person" just because they meow when they really look more like a dog, would you? True, such distinctions can be just called pointless or whatever, but it's just kind of a pet peeve of mine...

Edit:
amen.

how does it have anything to do with catching them all?
*Checks what they use to batle in things like gym battles/compete in Pokemon Contests and how they obtain these things.*

...
Right... Pokemon has nothing to do with catching Pokemon.... :huh

*laughs his ass off*

what character is never going to be mentioned again? near every character is going to have a big part later.

What minor delima? Its all about naruto's journey, or the sand/sound village vs. the leaf village. Either one of those or an exciting battle, which is comepletly realative to the plot, not like pokemon, which randomly makes up plots to entertain little kids on their weekends.

What generic villian? They seem unique to me. and pokemon doesn't even try, they just use the same villian over and over, its annoying as hell.

Again with the minor characters, name one and i'll be satasfied.

all in all, that was a dumb post.Which characters will never be heard of again? Inari and his family for starters. I doubt we'll ever here from them again (and so far, even in the current spot where the manga is, we haven't). Then let's see... Anko has been written out, apparently. She hasn't made an appearance since the Chuunin exams.

Sorry, but you have just as much evidence that these characters will play big parts later on as I do that they won't: none. Sorry, but there's no telling if they will or not and just declaring that they will is ignorant. Sorry, there's no way to know for sure. Claiming otherwise is just being ignorant.

As for generic villains... Team Rocket is really the only one Pokemon uses over and over again (and they've only stayed around so long because apparently people in Japan like them for some reason). Albeit he's a rival and not a villain, I wouldn't exactly call Shinji (Ash's rival in the latest season of Pokemon, Diamond and Pearl) a generic rival, especially after what happened in the latest episode...

Delimas eh... Naruto's goal is to become Hokage. What does the Wave Country arc have to do with this? Nothing. It could have been cut out and it wouldn't have made a difference (along with the flashbacks to it), really. Naruto could have just skipped to the chuunin exam. The only reason the Wave Countyr arc was really written was because otherwise people would complain that the plot would be going too fast (what with Naruto entering the Chuunin exams right after he became a genin and all). It really doesn't have much to do with Naruto's goal though. True, I suppose you could claim that people like Inari will end up helping Naruto become Hokage in thanks for his actions there later on, but this has yet to be seen. As of what we know so far, it could be taken out. This may change later, but as of now, it really could.

[Tsuuga]

Next you'll tell me Ninja Turtles are a biological impossibility.

[Danny Lilithborne]

Again with the minor characters, name one and i'll be satasfied.
Gato

You get nothing, you lose, good day sir.

[Ma-Duece]

I pretty much the show was about a boy, Naruto, trying to attain his goal of becoming hokage with emphasis on all the difficulties that he has to overcome.

[Amatsu]

WTF are you talikng about!?!?!? I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a knife covered in lemon juice than watch more than 2 minutes of the easily duplicated episodes of todays pokemon. Why not bring back the old charcters from the old show and make different episode with a different formula each time it airs.

for example pokemon today has a formula like this...

1.Ash and the gang meet minor character that will never be seen or mentioned every again (okay maybe but with a different name and hairstyle)...

2.Ash hears the minor characters dilema and trys to help...

3.team rocket steals some pokemon and pikachu does thunderbolt attack sending team rocket flying into a star...

4.by defeating Team rocket, Ash and freinds help the minor charcter achieve his/her dream and everyone is happy....
especially you stupid viewers who enjoy watching the same show with a different name.

Get a life, bro!!!!

I'm not a total NaruTard so I indeed DO have a life thank you very much.

Also I know how repetitive Pokemon is, but it's still far more entertaining than Naruto. After all I like adventure series and Pokemon is more about adventuring than the actual goal. Plus in the Japanese version Ash never had an overall goal of "catching them all" or "being a pokemon master" so Ash's overall failings in the actual tournaments have no real effect on me when it comes to how he's progressing. The series is still fun to watch to me that's all that matters.

Whereas Naruto just isn't as fun as it used to be anymore and I'm probably further ahead than you so that's saying a lot. Unless you're totally caught up in the manga and everything. That's just how I feel though. Cause you see I don't feel inferior thinking that pokemon is more entertaining. I don't care if the only way a person is cool is if they like Naruto. I believe there are MANY series that are FAR superior to Naruto.

The only thing people like you prove is that the Naruto fandom is nothing but a cesspool of fantards that think their favorite series is the best thing ever when it really isn't. To be honest the Naruto fandom from what I've seen is just as bad if not worse than the DBZ fandom and I know how bad that fandom is.

[Shurikien]

ugh, not you again...

do you think anyone cares what you have to say?

go live in a hut in Cuba. I won't miss you




there was a reason for the land of waves, its all apart of climbing up the ladder. you have to do missions in each to get better.


btw, pokemon guy, i don't think naruto is the best thing ever, i love many other mangas/animes, along with naruto,

[Amatsu]

ugh, not you again...

do you think anyone cares what you have to say?

go live in a hut in Cuba. I won't miss you




there was a reason for the land of waves, its all apart of climbing up the ladder. you have to do missions in each to get better.


btw, pokemon guy, i don't think naruto is the best thing ever, i love many other mangas/animes, along with naruto,

like what? Anything on Adult Swim I'm guessing?

and yes I do think people care what I have to say. If no one cared then you obviously wouldn't care either. Thus you wouldn't even be talking to me.

[sukettebayo]

Welp Danny L.... you negative repped me.....

It seems I've hit a soft spot in your tender little three year old heartstrings... next time you don't agree with someone post, posting back would be necessary for a rebuttle to your argument but I don't expect you to have the brain capacity to think of something like that. Now I see why canada willl always be the US's Nemsis to the north. BTW Zatch bell sucks.

SEE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA!

[Amatsu]

Welp Danny L.... you negative repped me.....

It seems I've hit a soft spot in your tender little three year old heartstrings... next time you don't agree with someone post, posting back would be necessary for a rebuttle to your argument but I don't expect you to have the brain capacity to think of something like that. Now I see why canada willl always be the US's Nemsis to the north. BTW Zatch bell sucks.

SEE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA!

I beg to differ. Gash Bell is far above Naruto on my list of favorite anime/manga. In fact it's pretty much tied with One Piece and FMA as my overall favorite manga. Not that I even have one single solitary favorite. Nothing has really stood out.

I can actually sympathise with the characters of Gash Bell and I highly enjoy reading the manga because the characters as well as the plot really captivates me... Unlike Naruto. Have you even read or watched Gash Bell though? Or are you just saying it sucks to get on people's bad sides?

Seeing as how you're probably under ten years old though I guess I can sympathise with your immaturity. After all you probably like it because it's popular and if you don't like it other people your age are going to rip on you about how lame you are for not liking a anime they think is "cool." Too bad Naruto isn't anywhere close to being cool, but hey I'm not going to say you totally have no taste at all... I pretty much think you know that already.

Oh and Canada isn't our nemesis in any way... Besides you wouldn't want someone dissing the U.S. would you? Then you shouldn't be dissing someone else's country that's just plain disrespectful.

[Danny Lilithborne]

SEE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA!
God. I could get better flames from a Bic.

By the way, my age is in my profile, if you could have bothered to look. Of course, it doesn't help my case at all (a 28 year old watching Zatch Bell is probably more laughable than a 3 year old) but whatever.

[Shurikien]

Zatch bell is okay, but still overly bad and pretty annoying

oh and watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pvXPseE-n4 canada haters!

lol thats awesome (its originally from south park)

[PyramidMike]

You are an idiot, learn something about ninjas dumb-ass, that whole stealth black wearing crap is american foolery. In actuality traditional ninjas wore normal civilian clothing 90% so they could surprise and assassinate samurai. They would dress as geisha girls, minstrels, low class hookers, whatever they had to do to get the job done very very rarely did you find ninjas invading fortresses clad in black slitting throats all bad-ass like its nice fantasy but naruto dressed as a normal person is truer to the spirit of true ninja history.
Kishimoto is a highly intelligent and educated individual who knows more about his OWN culture than some american jackass from butt f*ck nowhere who comes onto forums using juvenile words like pwn and disparages others hard work. If you don't like naruto the F*ucking leave dick, your on NARUTOFORUMS.COM go watch One Piece and kindly F*ck off.

[Youngfyre]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

its a show most
shows don't have to make sense to enjoy them
plus if u read the interviews with the creator you will understand why he made the ninjas that way

[Shurikien]

Mike, i really like you

:D

[MangekyoMaster]

Ninjas in Naruto are far more accurate than the american version of ninjas.

[Amatsu]

You are an idiot, learn something about ninjas dumb-ass, that whole stealth black wearing crap is american foolery. In actuality traditional ninjas wore normal civilian clothing 90% so they could surprise and assassinate samurai. They would dress as geisha girls, minstrels, low class hookers, whatever they had to do to get the job done very very rarely did you find ninjas invading fortresses clad in black slitting throats all bad-ass like its nice fantasy but naruto dressed as a normal person is truer to the spirit of true ninja history.
Kishimoto is a highly intelligent and educated individual who knows more about his OWN culture than some american jackass from butt f*ck nowhere who comes onto forums using juvenile words like pwn and disparages others hard work. If you don't like naruto the F*ucking leave dick, your on NARUTOFORUMS.COM go watch One Piece and kindly F*ck off.

I'm guessing that you think you know more about Japanese culture than the topic creator? Too bad Naruto's fans aren't nearly as intelligent or educated as this person believes Kishimoto to be. Also don't be dissing One Piece if you don't want Naruto to be dissed as well.

Also I'd say the ninja in Samurai Deeper Kyo and Rurouni Kenshin fit the traditional Japanese role of ninja more than Naruto which seems more like a Japanese version of Harry Potter... Maybe that's why Americans like it so much.

[Shurikien]

you are sooooooooooooo dumb

you keep making this group 'naruto fans' what does that mean? all naruto fans are retarded and stupid. I know i am, but some people here actually are smart.

[Beau Logan]

Naruto Potter FTW! :yell

[KazumaSakuraUchiha]

Geez that's Naruto fans for you... Whenever they hear something they don't agree with the first thing they do is start cussing people out.

i was just looking around and had a question, if you are saying "Geez that's Naruto fans for you" does that mean you arent a fan of naruto even at all that u cannot be out into that group? if so, may i ask what you are doing on a naruto forum, in the english dub section, commenting on these things? iv seen in many posts u continuasly say how stupid or crazy (not those exact words but you know what i mean) naruto fans are, isnt that stereotyping or somehting? i cant find the exact word for it but i think thats right lol if u dont like naruto (because you arent a naruto fan) why do u come to these forums or threads about NARUTO? im confused here....cuz i dont know about anyone else but i dont go to forums of shows i dont like and have no interest in anymore, to argue with the people who do :laugh

[PyramidMike]

I'm guessing that you think you know more about Japanese culture than the topic creator? Too bad Naruto's fans aren't nearly as intelligent or educated as this person believes Kishimoto to be. Also don't be dissing One Piece if you don't want Naruto to be dissed as well.

Also I'd say the ninja in Samurai Deeper Kyo and Rurouni Kenshin fit the traditional Japanese role of ninja more than Naruto which seems more like a Japanese version of Harry Potter... Maybe that's why Americans like it so much.

i never said i was more educated about ninjas than the topic creator his words proved the point when he began talking about them. i am more educated about ninjas than he is ...there now i said it. second Kishimoto is the CREATOR dumbass he is more educated about his own culture than we are dipsh*t considering that 80% of mythology to come from japan hasn't even been translated into english. Such as the legend of the tailed beasts where the story of the most prominent 9 tailed demon comes from. another example is the legend of the gallant jiriya which was just translated into english only a decade or so ago. As far as Samurai Deeper Kyo and Rurouni Kenshin, I haven't seen those two series so i will not discuss them as i have no refrence. Japan loves naruto too ass its the second highest rated anime in japan right behind One Piece. For the record i stand by what i said jackass this is F*CKING NARUTOFORUMS.COM N A R U T O
not one piece forums if you dont like the series f*cking leave i didn't join One piece forums and bad mouth the series thats what people like you do you join the forums of shows you hate and sh*t talk them to inflate your bullsh*t ego
here's a message from narutoforums to you ...EAT A DI*K and have a plesant day.

[Amatsu]

you are sooooooooooooo dumb

you keep making this group 'naruto fans' what does that mean? all naruto fans are retarded and stupid. I know i am, but some people here actually are smart.

Hm I guess I should correct myself then... The MAJORITY of Naruto fans then... After all I'd be insulting my friends who are actual intelligent Naruto fans if I lumped them with people like you so I should apologize to them for being so insulting. It's just a shame there aren't more people like them posting. It beats having to see posts from people like you.

i never said i was more educated about ninjas than the topic creator his words proved the point when he began talking about them. i am more educated about ninjas than he is ...there now i said it. second Kishimoto is the CREATOR dumbass he is more educated about his own culture than we are dipsh*t considering that 80% of mythology to come from japan hasn't even been translated into english. Such as the legend of the tailed beasts where the story of the most prominent 9 tailed demon comes from. another example is the legend of the gallant jiriya which was just translated into english only a decade or so ago. As far as Samurai Deeper Kyo and Rurouni Kenshin, I haven't seen those two series so i will not discuss them as i have no refrence. Japan loves naruto too ass its the second highest rated anime in japan right behind One Piece. For the record i stand by what i said jackass this is F*CKING NARUTOFORUMS.COM N A R U T O
not one piece forums if you dont like the series f*cking leave i didn't join One piece forums and bad mouth the series thats what people like you do you join the forums of shows you hate and sh*t talk them to inflate your bullsh*t ego
here's a message from narutoforums to you ...EAT A DI*K and have a plesant day.

I really appreciate that you cleaned your language up for that one.

[Danny Lilithborne]

i was just looking around and had a question, if you are saying "Geez that's Naruto fans for you" does that mean you arent a fan of naruto even at all that u cannot be out into that group? if so, may i ask what you are doing on a naruto forum, in the english dub section, commenting on these things?
Asked and answered. (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=6706005&postcount=132)

[Amatsu]

i was just looking around and had a question, if you are saying "Geez that's Naruto fans for you" does that mean you arent a fan of naruto even at all that u cannot be out into that group? if so, may i ask what you are doing on a naruto forum, in the english dub section, commenting on these things? iv seen in many posts u continuasly say how stupid or crazy (not those exact words but you know what i mean) naruto fans are, isnt that stereotyping or somehting? i cant find the exact word for it but i think thats right lol if u dont like naruto (because you arent a naruto fan) why do u come to these forums or threads about NARUTO? im confused here....cuz i dont know about anyone else but i dont go to forums of shows i dont like and have no interest in anymore, to argue with the people who do :laugh

I do... or at least I did like Naruto until people start bashing other series. I still enjoy posting here because I've met a lot of great people and I refuse to be limited just to liking one series. Plus there are other sections other than the Naruto sections that I enjoy.

[KazumaSakuraUchiha]

ok thank you for answering, but if u once did like naruto, im sure u wouldnt like people saying things like "geez thats naruto fans" or somehting like that would you? i am a naruto fan and if you are saying things like that about naruto fans, well than you might as well call me stupid without knowing me :( which doesnt make much sence at all, even if the guy is an idiote (not saying he is) that still shouldnt be said IMHO

[Amatsu]

ok thank you for answering, but if u once did like naruto, im sure u wouldnt like people saying things like "geez thats naruto fans" or somehting like that would you? i am a naruto fan and if you are saying things like that about naruto fans, well than you might as well call me stupid without knowing me :( which doesnt make much sence at all, even if the guy is an idiote (not saying he is) that still shouldnt be said IMHO

Well first impressions say a lot to me. For instance you don't come off as an idiot to me. I have no reason to think you are one.

[KazumaSakuraUchiha]

Well first impressions say a lot to me. For instance you don't come off as an idiot to me. I have no reason to think you are one.

lol thank you, but still, please dont say things associating him with naruto fans or something against naruto fans like that, for just one stupid person's (who just so happens to be a naruto fan) opinions smile-big

[Amatsu]

lol thank you, but still, please dont say things associating him with naruto fans or something against naruto fans like that, for just one stupid person's (who just so happens to be a naruto fan) opinions smile-big

To be honest if it was just one person I wouldn't have said something like that to begin with. I've been here for a little over two years I'm sure you'll see what I mean over time...

[Shurikien]

so if naruto had better fans you would like it?

that is so dumb i forgot to think about it seriously

[Amatsu]

No. Not at all. I don't like Naruto anymore for other reasons as well. The bad part of the fandom is just one of the many reasons.

[Danny Lilithborne]

so if naruto had better fans you would like it?

that is so dumb i forgot to think about it seriously
Do you have a closet where you keep all those straw men?

[Shurikien]

that made absoulutely no sense

[Shiron]

that made absoulutely no sense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

Theres nothing wrong with the fucking Naruto fandom. Maybe your just having alittle complex problem and you think your more mature than most of the fandom,which i doubt since you were so ignorant enough to base the series awesomeness on the majority of the fandom you see in your eyes.

[Amatsu]

Theres nothing wrong with the fucking Naruto fandom. Maybe your just having alittle complex problem and you think your more mature than most of the fandom,which i doubt since you were so ignorant enough to base the series awesomeness on the majority of the fandom you see in your eyes.

and I'm supposed to believe that you are mature? :huh

Who said that the fandom was my only reason for not liking Naruto? I never did say the fandom was my only reason for not liking Naruto anymore. I don't think the series has the "awesomeness" you seem to think it does anymore, but that's because I find other series more entertaining.

So let me get this straight... I'm ignorant because I don't think Naruto is the greatest thing ever? Wow... Just wow...

[KazumaSakuraUchiha]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


lmao thank you, although i dont 100% understand it i think i just learned a new phrase or saying should i say? smile-big

[Amatsu]

lmao thank you, although i dont 100% understand it i think i just learned a new phrase or saying should i say? smile-big

It's alright if you don't understand it. No one's expecting you too. :)

[Danny Lilithborne]

that made absoulutely no sense
Which is why you should change your age to something more accurate. Like, I don't know, THREE.

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

Quit using dorky,intelliect-esque terms that half of us don't understand. It just makes you come off as a smartass. And not a highly intelligent one.

[Danny Lilithborne]

Quit using dorky,intelliect-esque terms that half of us don't understand. It just makes you come off as a smartass. And not a highly intelligent one.
Smarter than you, meatbag. "Straw man" is basic critical thinking.

[ai_love_gaara]

well if i remember, the creator of naruto wanted to make a ninja show featuring kids, so it can shatter everyone's idea of "ninja" and think of it in a new light.

also, i think he said that he didn't want the ninja stereotype of them wearing black and have masks, so he chose to have his characters wear a different range of clothing, and have the main character wear orange.

if it was about our stereotype/ our idea of ninjas, then i'd probably not watch the show. it would be just all blood everywhere only and no storyline.

also, naruto is fantasy. so it gets its own world, own dictionary, own encyclopedia, own superhuman activity, and own ninja rules.

[Daneki]

I'm happy that you found my posts amusing.:)

I have a life, I can't just look at every anime all the time.


Clearly you don't. *brandishes thread of retardation and waves it*

What you're missing is that the central character is very un-ninja like. There are plenty of ninja in the Naruverse who could live up to your one dimensional view of what a ninja "should" be. Someone's been playing Shinobi (Mega Drive, 1990's XD) for too long.

[hara_karikitty]

Naruto minus the action would be like watching a hell of a lot of black lines move around on the screen then hearing a soft thud as a body hits the floor.

I'll propose that idea myself.

I'll call it this "Naruto - for the fans of real ninja's, entertainment...? You won't see anything!" Too long.

Psht, I'm gonna rant soon. If I haven't already.

[TrueKimimaro]

People didn't take to nice nicely to this thread did they.

[starblade876]

People didn't take to nice nicely to this thread did they.Objectively speaking, it's a pretty useless and stupid thread. It started with pretentiousness and, save a few posts that were actually on topic and pretty much showed why the OP was wrong, continued with it. Most of the recent posts have been nothing but flaming.

[Masaki]

Naruto would be a very boring manga/anime if they didn't preform jutsu. =\

You're a bit slow when it comes to stories, aren't you? Just like movies, its not real. The author does it so people will be interested. Like my above statement, if Kishi didn't do that then nothing would work.

"Ninja" is directly associated with "stealth". Stealth has not been performed in any form since Zabuza.

[starblade876]

"Ninja" is directly associated with "stealth". Stealth has not been performed in any form since Zabuza.
You mean like Kabuto in the hospital and various sand- and sound-nin, including the Sound 4 and Orochimaru, in the 3rd part of the exam?

[King Bookah]

@starblade: Exactly, good post

Funny, nobody complains about OP pirates, yet the SH do very little pirating. More to the point, why does it matter wheter Kishi portrays ninjas differently? Seems to me like people are just looking for lame reasons to bash Naruto. C'mon, I know people can do better than "Naruto ninjaz iz not eh raelz ninjas'z."

[Helix]

Oh wait, what type of school Naruto went to. The "Ninja" Academy, I think. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I mean for heaven sake I thought it was the Fighter/Soldier Academy. Funny how that came across my mind.

They are ninjas. Deal with it.

[General Mustang]

If Naruto "has nothing to do with ninja's"...then why in the beginning of the series Naruto kept yelling "i'm a NINJA NINJA NINJA" when he became a ninja?

[Goongasnootch]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.

You should try reading the manga. Kishimoto explains that he knows the difference between the traditional view of a Ninja, the Ninja as depicted in other anime and manga, and his Ninja. He wanted to make Ninja that were different than all the other types out there as to not become part of the stereotype.

Where actual Ninja stuff comes in with Naruto is with disguises, deceit, traditional Ninjua weaponry (and fictional weapons based on such things), and Ninja folklore built right into the storyline.

While you're at it, maybe you need to read a few historical texts on Ninja to understand the depth of how Ninja are a big part of the Naruto story.

I'd have figured by now that someone who watched enough Naruto to come to an opinion like yours would know to look underneath the underneath. :kthumb

[Masaki]

You mean like Kabuto in the hospital and various sand- and sound-nin, including the Sound 4 and Orochimaru, in the 3rd part of the exam?

Kabuto revealed his face at one point. If he used a transformation jutsu, they wouldn't suspect him. Some spy he is.

Oro, fine. Sound 4, however, revealed themselves without any big motive as to why. Now people can look at them, one six-armed guy in particular, and know their abilities.

Hiding as civilians would also be better than ANBU. But again, I'll give you Oro.

[Shurikien]

aurgh, who cares what a straw man is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shurikien]

*Checks what they use to batle in things like gym battles/compete in Pokemon Contests and how they obtain these things.*

...
Right... Pokemon has nothing to do with catching Pokemon.... :huh

it doesn't they go to random places and help people. Lets go to this random place and save some random person from some random problem. all the time doing nothing about catching pokemon or earning badges.


Which characters will never be heard of again? Inari and his family for starters. I doubt we'll ever here from them again (and so far, even in the current spot where the manga is, we haven't). Then let's see... Anko has been written out, apparently. She hasn't made an appearance since the Chuunin exams.

hah, anko, she was a freaking teacher, how can you even say that, how would she have a big part, randomly, jumping in to the screen, then disappearing.

Inari, i have a feeling he'll be back, after all they named a bridge after naruto, i have a feeling he'll be back, if only in a filler...


Sorry, but you have just as much evidence that these characters will play big parts later on as I do that they won't: none. Sorry, but there's no telling if they will or not and just declaring that they will is ignorant. Sorry, there's no way to know for sure. Claiming otherwise is just being ignorant.

did you learn a new word. you just said ignorant twice in about two sentences.


As for generic villains... Team Rocket is really the only one Pokemon uses over and over again (and they've only stayed around so long because apparently people in Japan like them for some reason). Albeit he's a rival and not a villain, I wouldn't exactly call Shinji (Ash's rival in the latest season of Pokemon, Diamond and Pearl) a generic rival, especially after what happened in the latest episode...

heh, team rocket is so overused its not even funny. I should be called team rocket instead of pokemon, because ash never uses any of his but pikachu, which he uses once to blow up team rockets baloon.


Delimas eh... Naruto's goal is to become Hokage. What does the Wave Country arc have to do with this? Nothing. It could have been cut out and it wouldn't have made a difference (along with the flashbacks to it), really. Naruto could have just skipped to the chuunin exam. The only reason the Wave Countyr arc was really written was because otherwise people would complain that the plot would be going too fast (what with Naruto entering the Chuunin exams right after he became a genin and all). It really doesn't have much to do with Naruto's goal though. True, I suppose you could claim that people like Inari will end up helping Naruto become Hokage in thanks for his actions there later on, but this has yet to be seen. As of what we know so far, it could be taken out. This may change later, but as of now, it really could.

they need it to show an example of a ninja misson, which they often speak about. How many times have they used the word a,b,c or (that other level of missions :spoiler:) ranked missions.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Ninjas could have worn orange, no one knows. Go read about Prince Yamato. Many things in Naruto actually do relate to the first records of ninja. For example, Naruto's "Sexy no jutsu" or w/e it's called in english, Yamato dressed as a woman to gain the upper hand. Aren't a large amount of missions about protecting a person or package, isn't espionage a huge part of the Naruto-verse. Go learn about real ninjas before comparing "Naruto" to your retarded stereotypes of guys in full black body suits killing everything in sight.

[itachi0982]

You should try reading the manga. Kishimoto explains that he knows the difference between the traditional view of a Ninja, the Ninja as depicted in other anime and manga, and his Ninja. He wanted to make Ninja that were different than all the other types out there as to not become part of the stereotype.

Where actual Ninja stuff comes in with Naruto is with disguises, deceit, traditional Ninjua weaponry (and fictional weapons based on such things), and Ninja folklore built right into the storyline.

While you're at it, maybe you need to read a few historical texts on Ninja to understand the depth of how Ninja are a big part of the Naruto story.

I'd have figured by now that someone who watched enough Naruto to come to an opinion like yours would know to look underneath the underneath. :kthumbi agree with kendamaru

[Shurikien]

bottom line

Let him write about whatever he wants!!!!!1111eleven!!!!!11111

[Rise Against713]

it's an alturnate univers were ninjas are the military

[Shurikien]

ok, thanks for that

i thought bears were the military ;p

[aquiwill@gmail.com]

Yea the black ops are real ninjas

[aquiwill@gmail.com]

A. The kunai, ninja stars, shuriken, etc. aren't worth jack squat. When was the last time, hell, the first time that any of these made a difference? It was just in episode 1, hence the original poster's claim that Kishi did it just to make it look cool.

B. He wants to be Hokage. I don't recall him saying "greatest ninja".

Well if they acted like real ninjas the the show wold be boring

[Amatsu]

Naruto's ninja's are so accurately portrayed that they can get past airport security no problem.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/DRCEQ2/Airportsecurity.jpg

[Shurikien]

um, how does that prove your case,

[shadow__nin]

Yeah guess Naruto is full of your not so typical Ninja's...
But that is what make Naruto so great. It has endless possibilities.
I really like the way Kishi went with this.

[Kwagga]

Somethings in Naruto have to do with ninjas but other times it's mostly super powers and magic of such.

Are you blind or something? :mad
That "super powers" and "magic" is chakra!
There's nothing magical about it!
Go watch it again from the start, and pay attention this time instead of looking at the pretty pictures.

[Danny Lilithborne]

Are you blind or something? :mad
That "super powers" and "magic" is chakra!
There's nothing magical about it!
Go watch it again from the start, and pay attention this time instead of looking at the pretty pictures.
Yeah, because anyone can make clones and possess people with their shadows if they just try really hard.

[Roxas]

Yeah, because anyone can make clones and possess people with their shadows if they just try really hard.

i agree with Danny Lilithborne on this one i mean it IS magic powers and stuff (because WE cant do it in REAL life) they just named it chakra

[#1 Shizune Fanboy]

No, it's the truth. Ninja's are not fighters, they are assasins. They do missions about stealing things or killing people. They are stealthy about it too. They don't create wars, or cast magic, or summon giant creatures of doom. They don't have tournaments and fight head on.

The creator of this show created a Ninja like world, but with non-Ninja characters. The characters are more like mercenarys for hire, or soldiers that defend their village.



I know. I'm just sayin' though.......



Just cause' I like a show means that I can't tell it has flaws? I'm no fanboy.......

Naruto is based on ninjas, sorry it's true you have no idea what you're talking about.

I've seen people who have studied a lot about ninja and had more to say about Naruto and actual ninja than "they steal stuff and kill people." The hand seals, some jutsu, etc. are based on actual techniques that ninja made use of. Common folk back in that time, having little contact with them and wondering how they did the things they did made up superstitions about it and such. So yeah, it's about ninja as they are in the myths surrounding them, which means it's about ninja.

And another thing, protecting their village really was their primary concern. It's why they all trained so hard and kept it hidden, or relatively so. They weren't crazy fucks that would kill you just as soon as talk to you just because they could. That right there is a rather recent myth.

[Donkey Show]

This is like how One Piece has nothing to do with pirates and Prince of Tennis has nothing to do with tennis.

Apologize if old. XD

[Haruka]

This is like how One Piece has nothing to do with pirates and Prince of Tennis has nothing to do with tennis.

Apologize if old. XD

WRONG!!!![/newsupermanmovie]DS is best

[Peak]

The Naruto anime is not about ninja's, like, at all. It's all about a bunch of people learning magic tricks to defeat their opponents DBZ style. It's so dumb that the creator calls Naruto a bunch of Ninjas. They are more like straight up fighters than ninja's.

What kind of ninja wears an oragne suit? Are they suppose to be "stealth" like? How come the so called "ninja's" in this anime fight their opponents head on, and not surprise them?

The only reason the creator calls them ninja's is so that his anime could be cooler. Other than that, Naruto has nothing to do with ninja's.
You fail at life for saying that.
LIFE.

[Prince of Perverts]

Of course these arn't true ninja, my Christ. If they were true ninja then the show would be boring. "Guy sneaks up behind other guy and cuts his throat. Other guy is dead. Killer dude sneaks back to where ever he came from." Whoa that sounds really interesting. Naruto is an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE where magic shit can happen, who cares. It's a good show and leave it at that.

[KillerGiraffe]

If it was all about ninjas wed never see anything, som1 would assasinate som1 and its over... id just be another dumb "Berserk!" anime... worthless imo. I can see it now.

"I wont let my teamates die!"

*drops dead from assasin move, he then assasinates the others the same way*

wow its over? its been wat? 20 episodes?

honestly...

[Shurikien]

i agree with Danny Lilithborne on this one i mean it IS magic powers and stuff (because WE cant do it in REAL life) they just named it chakra

thats because you are an ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course we can't make clones and shit


just like we can't do anything thats in many manga, anime, fantasy, sci-fi, and just plain fiction.



If it was true it would be non-fictions!!!!!!eleven!111


as peak said, all of you fail AT LIFE

[Shurikien]

i agree with Danny Lilithborne on this one i mean it IS magic powers and stuff (because WE cant do it in REAL life) they just named it chakra

thats because you are an ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course we can't make clones and shit


just like we can't do anything thats in many manga, anime, fantasy, sci-fi, and just plain fiction.



If it was true it would be non-fictions!!!!!!eleven!111


as peak said, all of you fail AT LIFE

[Danny Lilithborne]

I think we broke his brain.

[Amatsu]

I think we broke his brain.

He has a brain?

Well in any case I think you're right.

[Peak]

as peak said, all of you fail AT LIFE
Im involved in so many things.

But I have to say this.

This thread lacks hatred.

[Kwagga]

lacks hatred??

[Peak]

lacks hatred??
Actually let me reprhase that.
This thread lacks penis.

[Kwagga]

?????? ........... penis??..........wtf........... :huh

[Peak]

?????? ........... penis??..........wtf........... :huh
You have a long way to go.

[yuhun]

How boring would Naruto be if every character wore traditional black ninja suits? The creator trying something new by having a main character act completely opposite to a normal ninja would- yes Naruto's loud, annoying and wears stupidly bright orange suit but he's a learing student.
As the episodes progressed Naruto's personality changes, fans want to see development within the character otherwise it'll be boring to start of by having a stupidly over skilled masked ninja from episode 1.

I can see why your put off by Naruto-after all the drawing style looks quite kiddy compare to most animes.

[Kwagga]

I can see why your put off by Naruto-after all the drawing style looks quite kiddy compare to most animes.


I disagree. :notrust

[Shiron]

How boring would Naruto be if every character wore traditional black ninja suits?
God, the OP isn't acting for this (or at least I hope not). All Blader is asking for is that if they don't act like ninjas, then don't call them ninjas and call them something else. That simple.

[Shurikien]

He has a brain?

Well in any case I think you're right.

hah! good show chap!

[shadowrocks17]

In the end, this is a great example on why most people in the world are totally ignorant and nerdy. Oh for the Naruto bashers, take your nico robin bitch loving asses out of this thread, you're kind is not welcome here for you make the mass majority of One Piece fans even lamer and more annoying. For every post regaurding Naruto and his Phail, luffy loses another brain cell in his retarded rubber boy head. Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nuts But seriously, Naruto may not be the typical Ninja cartoon, but it's damn fun and appealing to watch, plus Naruto always uses kunai and shuriken in fights, thats ninja enough, IMO Sauske and Kakashi are the only Ninja's in that show that stay to their orignal ninja counter parts, because of all the revenge and power he wants thats typical ninja behavior, plus his clothes in the chunin exams are real ninja wear to me. All black for steath, Sauske is actually more stealthy than Naruto or Sakura. Sasuke actually wants to be the most powerful ninja and has honour in fights since he never kills, but he would kill Itachi and he's got a killer intent, Naruto wants to be a hokage and be respected, to me thats stupid, because you more respect if you have a reputation for being a feared and deadly shinobi, people take you more seriously than a ruler to a village to me. Kakashi is the closeset thing to a real ninja I've seen, he's got the style, the looks, the craft. Kakashi killed Zabuza and Haku, and had no regrets in doing so, he acted like it was nothing, just a job from his employer. To me those are real Ninja's I don't see a real ninja's using sand for a weapon and having demons inside him or a clan with freaky white eyes that pop up veins and steroids, plus a patty cake fighting style.

Off Topic: One Piece is not a real Pirate story, trust me. It's just not, Luffy or his crew don't steal treasure, once he did, but it should of been on a island of villagers not a sky gods temple.:notrust I'll post more if you want.

[Shiron]

In the end, this is a great example on why most people in the world are totally ignorant and nerdy.

....

Oh for the Naruto bashers, take your nico robin bitch loving asses out of this thread,
Hmm... So, people who don't like Naruto are suddenly not only fans of One Piece, but big fans of Robin in particular? Interesting.... this seems quite an ignorant generalization to me... In this case, it appears to be true, but not all people who hate Naruto like One Piece. Take the user Ronin/Vegeta/Sasuke/whatever he's called right now, for example.

And sorry, but if we have a complaint about Naruto/found something that doesn't make sense, we can post it. It would be best to post it in the least rude way possible, but still, if we want to complain about something we can.

Also, if you don't want Naruto to be bashed, then you're not setting that good of an example by bashing One Piece/One Piece fans. If you want someone to do something, set the bar by doing it first. Otherwise, you really won't get anyone to do it, since if you, the person who's telling them to stop, is doing just what he's telling the others to stop, they will think "Why should I stop doing it just because this guy says so, especially when he's doing the exact same thing?". Sorry, but telling someone to not do something and then doing that thing yourself isn't the best way to get others to listen to you.

As for the rest of that blob, it was too painful to read due to not being broken into paragraphs.

Off Topic: One Piece is not a real Pirate story, trust me. It's just not, Luffy or his crew don't steal treasure, once he did, but it should of been on a island of villagers not a sky gods temple.:notrust I'll post more if you want.
*Sigh* Please don't bring One Piece into this. The thread starter said nothing about One Piece, so there's no reason to bring it up (unless you're just staying with you're "All Naurto Bashers = One Piece fans" generalization).

[shadowrocks17]

Hmm... So, people who don't like Naruto are suddenly not only fans of One Piece, but big fans of Robin in particular? Interesting.... this seems quite an ignorant generalization to me...

As for the rest of that blob, it was too painful to read due to not being broken into paragraphs.


*Sigh* Please don't bring One Piece into this. The thread starter said nothing about One Piece, so there's no reason to bring it up.Yep, Nico has a ton of Fanboys that think she's the grestest thing since super soakers. It's sad.

You need grammer classes then or glasses.

One Piece Fanwanks by the name of Aethos is fucking ranting like a total bitch about Naruto. Why the fuck not?

[shadowrocks17]

And Besides, complaining is the key element in all threads, without it Fanboys wouldn't have a place to be. It's the thing that keeps us all together.:laugh

[Amatsu]

Yep, Nico has a ton of Fanboys that think she's the grestest thing since super soakers. It's sad.

You mean just like a large majority of Naruto characters? Heck I could replace Nico with Itachi, Yondaime, Sasuke, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, etc. and it'd practically be the same thing.

One Piece Fanwanks by the name of Aethos is fucking ranting like a total bitch about Naruto. Why the fuck not?
How very original... It must have taken you days to think up insults like that. I haven't even said a thing about One Piece. Geez I'm practically embarrassed to have been a Naruto fan if I used to act like you.

[Shiron]

Yep, Nico has a ton of Fanboys that think she's the grestest thing since super soakers. It's sad.

You need grammer classes then or glasses.

One Piece Fanwanks by the name of Aethos is fucking ranting like a total bitch about Naruto. Why the fuck not?
Err, except that you totally missed my point. Yes, Robin has her fans. But not all Naruto bashers are One Piece fans, much less extreme fans of Robin. I wasn't denying that she had fans, but what I was attempting to say was that not all Naruto bashers are One Piece fans, which just makes that comment a needless jab at the One Piece fans.

And I don't need grammar classes... That thing could have been broken down into at least a few paragraphs due to their being several different ideas being expressed in it (remember, one paragraph is only supposed to focus around one idea and not several. So, if you want to say I need grammar classes, then that would only backfrie on you here).

And I do wear glasses (although I can see fine without them; I really don't know why I have them, but oh well). It's just annoying to read something written like that, since it could have been written in a way that is both much easier on the eyes and is more proper.

And see the edits to my above post (I wasn't finished when you quoted me; I accidentaly pressed Submit before I was finished) on why you shouldn't start bashing One Piece just because some of Aethos's posts aren't too mature:
Also, if you don't want Naruto to be bashed, then you're not setting that good of an example by bashing One Piece/One Piece fans. If you want someone to do something, set the bar by doing it first. Otherwise, you really won't get anyone to do it, since if you, the person who's telling them to stop, is doing just what he's telling the others to stop, they will think "Why should I stop doing it just because this guy says so, especially when he's doing the exact same thing?". Sorry, but telling someone to not do something and then doing that thing yourself isn't the best way to get others to listen to you.

[Amatsu]

And see the edits to my above post (I wasn't finished when you quoted me; I accidentaly pressed Submit before I was finished) on why you shouldn't start bashing One Piece just because some of Aethos's posts aren't too mature:

Why bring up me at all? You don't see me pointing fingers.

Besides I'm just messing with them. That doesn't really say anything about my maturity. Excuse me for not acting like everything is "serious business."

[Shiron]

Why bring up me at all? You don't see me pointing fingers.

Besides I'm just messing with them. That doesn't really say anything about my maturity. Excuse me for not acting like everything is "serious business."
I only mentioned you because he did; nothing more than that. If he hadn't of mentioned you, then I wouldn't have either. However, he mentioned you specifically and used you to justify his actions. Hence the reason for me mentioning you; to counter his reasoing.

And I know you're just messing with them, but some people don't. And posts like 219/220, can easily just be taken the wrong way with those who are strong Naruto fans, especially with people who are unfamilar with you. Thus, why I stray away from posting such things as much as possible (and wish others would do the same); the actual seriousness of the posts can be severly exaggerated and end up causing flamewars.

[Amatsu]

I only mentioned you because he did; nothing more than that. If he hadn't of mentioned you, then I wouldn't have either. However, he mentioned you specifically and used you to justify his actions. Hence the reason for me mentioning you; to counter his reasoing.

And I know you're just messing with them, but they don't. And posts like 219/220, can easily just be taken the wrong way with those who are strong Naruto fans, especially with people who are unfamilar with you. Thus, why I stray away from posting such things as much as possible (and wish others would do the same); the actual seriousness of the posts can be severly exaggerated and just end up causing flamewars.

Oh well okay. As long as you do know that then. Sorry if I sounded mean or something. :amuse

Meh well I understand what you mean and of course I guess I would try to do that as well if it weren't extremely hard to be serious when you come across people who get so easily angered over such things like this that it comes off as hilarious all the time.

I'm not saying there aren't mature and serious Naruto fans but... I haven't really seen many of them since I joined here. ::shrugs::

[Danny Lilithborne]

The weird thing is I like Naruto. That's what so insane about all this!

[theCommanderCardinal]

Do you even know what REAL ninjas are? What you describe as a ninja is the media's messed-up interpretation of the 9 schools of Bujinkan BudoTaijutsu. Just look up Masaaki Hatsumi on google.

[Shurikien]

just saying, kakashi didn't kill zabuza

[Amatsu]

The funny thing is that I bet the majority of people who believe they know what the true definition of what a ninja is learned it off of wikipedia. Sorry but that doesn't exactly make you an expert on the subject.

[Santos]

Given that this doesn't take place in our "universe" so to speak, the definition of a ninja there, may totally differ to what it means here. Anyway, it's all about moolah. Ninjas will sell better than...town protectors..or whatever the OP thinks they are.

[~M~]

Naruto has plenty to do with ninjas, it is just in a diffrent fourm! It is unigue because it describes a ninja that isnt brainwashed and obbsesed with killing. Naruto is good because theres action, love, and a good story. (yes with ninja)

[natwel]

I agree i'd like to see more katanas, more tricks with trees, actualy ninja suits than them navy trackies with US military jackets. It's gone further than DBZ with strategy, but yeah, i'd like to see platoon planning and ambushes on the show, he should get jackie chan to help him with the fight scenes. and I know for one thing that REAL ninjas don't have all them super powers.

[Acheronian]

Do you even know what REAL ninjas are? What you describe as a ninja is the media's messed-up interpretation of the 9 schools of Bujinkan BudoTaijutsu. Just look up Masaaki Hatsumi on google.

Wait...are you actually bringing the Bujinkan into this...
Seriously man..., I've been with the Bujinkan for a while now...
I've always just seen the show as almost a representation of the mythology behind ninjutsu ( something still studied in the Bujinkan )...

Frankly, I'd think Hatsumi would love the show...
If you know the type of guy he is - he'd probably think it's hillarious and love how several things point to real stuff in ninjutsu's history and practice...

[Saya]

They use kunais, shurikens, etc. :oh

[Valentine ♥]

Who cares if it does or doesn't?

[Amatsu]

Naruto has plenty to do with ninjas, it is just in a diffrent fourm! It is unigue because it describes a ninja that isnt brainwashed and obbsesed with killing. Naruto is good because theres action, love, and a good story. (yes with ninja)

Naruto - The love child of InuYasha and Dragonball Z

[Loogidude]

Naruto - The love child of InuYasha and Dragonball ZNaruto is nothing like DBZ or Inuyasha, more like Yu Yu Hakusho or Ranma.

One Piece is definiatley DBZ's love child.

I agree with the banned Shadowrocks, Sasuke seems to be the only realistic Ninja so far, since he's like driven out by vengence.

[Sean★]

Sounds more like a Sasutard thing to say to me '-'...

Naruto sees that Hokage; pretty much an elder of the town- and rank in Ninja is someone everyone respects from far reaches of the world; he wants respect; he's spirited by that.

Sasuke; Revenge.

Sakura; A boy, although for her to hold up being a ninja for that long is amazing... so a little unrealistic; but we need Sakura D:

Shikamaru: ...No clue considering he just wants a peaceful life.

Ino: She was just good at it, and wanted to impress Sasuke; same with Sakura- unrealistic but need Ino D:

etc. etc.

But Naruto has alot to do with ninjas '-'... considering every main character kinda is one.