Jiujutsu vs. Judo

[Comic Book Guy]

Input from martial artists are welcomed.

[Locard]

What kind of match is this?

it's a brawl, a competition , or are you trying to discuss which martial art is better?

As a former judo student, i've practiced both

[Kisame]

In a fight Jiujutsu wins.

But in a video game Judo looks pretty sweet check it out


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0W6NCr1Mj1g&search=kwonho

/end shameless kwonho promotion

[Locard]

In a fight Jiujutsu wins.

But in a video game Judo looks pretty sweet check it out


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0W6NCr1Mj1g&search=kwonho

/end shameless kwonho promotion
If the fight goes to the ground , yes, the jiujutsu specialist most likely would win (not always, since Judokas practice Jiu-jitsu too, ground-fighting it's part of the daily training)

However, if a judoka throws you, and you dont know the proper way to fall or you're fighting in a rough terrain instead of a tatami, you wont get up.
And unlike the other stand up disciplines (karate, taekwondo,muay thai, etc) a judoka isn't helpless if the fight goes to the ground

[Kisame]

However, if a judoka throws you, and you dont know the proper way to fall or you're fighting in a rough terrain instead of a tatami, you wont get up.
And unlike the other stand up disciplines (karate, taekwondo,muay thai, etc) a judoka isn't helpless if the fight goes to the ground


Show me someone who studys judo to fight in mma.

[mystictrunks]

Muay Thai >>>>> Ju-Jitsu > Judo

[Locard]

Show me someone who studys judo to fight in mma.
Fedor Emelianenko, the current undefeated Pride Heavyweight Champion is a Russian judo champion:oh
Hidehiko Yoshida, former gold medallist in Judo in Atlanta comes to my mind too.

Muay Thai >>>>> Ju-Jitsu > Judo
If the fight goes to the ground, Muay thai is as useful as a small cripled little kitten.

[Comic Book Guy]

it's a brawl, a competition , or are you trying to discuss which martial art is better?

Compare the martial arts to one another.

[Kisame]

Fedor Emelianenko, the current undefeated Pride Champion is a Russian judo champion:oh


Hes not pure judo he study sambo and something else.


Hidehiko Yoshida


he got ownt and won by some silly judging

[Megaharrison]

Jiujutsu is simply more practical for all forms of combat, especially close ranged ground as many have already stated. Most (if not all) real fights eventually end up on the ground anyway.

My brother does jiujutsu and I do mainly judo. When we fight I've found it extremely difficult to beat that kid. I usually try to avoid grappling at all costs which, is essentially impossible if we're fighting for real.

[Locard]

Hes not pure judo he study sambo and something else.
Nobody is ¨pure¨ in MMA anymore, you'll get owned like no tomorrow if you only know one style.
Fedor's background is Judo and Sambo.

Compare the martial arts to one another.judo derivated from Jiujitsu. jigoro Kano Judo's creator was a jiujitsu master, indeed.
He wanted to create a less aggresive style, well suited for women and children to practice.
Basically, they're the same. The difference is that Judo focus on takedowns and throws, Jiu-jitsu focus in ground fighting.

[Sesshoumaru]

MMA fighters are all mixed martial artist, though they all have a base style; ie - Judo, Juijutsu, Kung Fu, Muay Thai, etc.

From personal experience, Judo is the better style since it is a style that encoporates all aspects of hand-to-hand - Stand-Up, Grapple, Throw, Submission.

[Kisame]

Nobody is ¨pure¨ in MMA anymore, you'll get owned like no tomorrow if you only know one style.



There plenty of people who only fight using brazilian jiujutsu. its the best overall combat form.

[Locard]

My brother does jiujutsu and I do mainly judo. When we fight I've found it extremely difficult to beat that kid. I usually try to avoid grappling at all costs which, is essentially impossible if we're fighting for real.
How can you do Judo and avoiding grappling?
There plenty of people who only fight using braziliant jiujutsu. its the best overall combat form.
The OP never specified BJJ

Brazilian jiujitsu and jiujitsu are not the same thing.
Brazilian jiujutsu is an hybrid martial art , it was specifically created for that purpose (all-around combat). Carlos Gracie, the creator was a street fighter (and also, a classic jiu-jitsu practicioner), and the style incorporates aspects of many martial arts.
It's been a long time ago since the Gracies reigned in MMA.
And even they were forced to incorporate other techniques like Muay thai as the level of competition increased.
All the current champions dominate at least 2 styles.

[mystictrunks]

If the fight goes to the ground, Muay thai is as useful as a small cripled little kitten.

You're right sadly....I kinda regret taking Muay Thai lessons sometimes,but heck it was fun,and it's neat to show off.

In a real fight Judo would most likely win,grappling tends to pwn any martial art forcused on striking.

[Locard]

You're right sadly....I kinda regret taking Muay Thai lessons sometimes,but heck it was fun,and it's neat to show off.

In a real fight Judo would most likely win,grappling tends to pwn any martial art forcused on striking.Dont regret it. Muay Thai is great, and it's definetly the best striking discipline. Maybe you cant do ground fighting but you can always KO them :P . Like a 90% of the current MMA fighters incorporates Muay thai to their training, some champions, like Wanderlei Silva are muay thai specialists.

[Megaharrison]

How can you do Judo and avoiding grappling?

Lol yeah I wasn't very specific there. I also have taken Krav Maga and TKD. I really need to take something more combat practical like boxing or muay thai though. The general point I was making, is that he's a better grappler and as a result I try to avoid those scenarios. Though that is rather impossible to do in a non-regulated setting.

[Sengoku]

Sakuraba's pro wrestling > Gracie's BJJ

[Sesshoumaru]

In a real fight Judo would most likely win,grappling tends to pwn any martial art forcused on striking.

That's generalizing. It depends on the fighter. Some striking fighters have those quick jab-like strikes that deliver a lot of power, enough to knock someone out if hitting in the right spots.

[lucky]

Hes not pure judo he study sambo and something else.

he got ownt and won by some silly judging

mebe... but still,

Show me someone who studys judo to fight in mma.

they are 'someone' who 'studied judo' to fight in mma.

[Gray Wolf]

Show me someone who studys judo to fight in mma.

Karo and Yoshida are judo guys.

[SigbinPuti™]

i don't think judo would win against a juijitsu user cause judo are more on throwing and slaming people to the ground. while juijitsu uses various ground techs using it to submit ppl. it all depends on the user and who gives away an oppening

[Jin22]

These styles are very similar though If I were to choose between the two, I'd go with jiujitsu.

In all honesty, I believe though depending on the individual, that either art could overcome the other.

[Goodfellow]

Muay Thai >>>>> Ju-Jitsu > Judo

Big guy with troubled childhood and got in a lot of fights as youth >>>>>>> all of that

[Gray Wolf]

Big guy with troubled childhood and got in a lot of fights as youth >>>>>>> all of that

If the guy had no training he would get chopped down by leg kicks by a Muay Thai practitioner. A Judo practitioner would throw him to the ground and wrap him up. Jiu-Jutsu guy would take him to the ground and bend his limbs in ways they where made for.

[Sengoku]

It all depends on the fighter.

Crocop = Kickboxing
Wanderlei Silva = Muay Thai
Fedor = Sambo and Judo
Antonio Nog = BJJ

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE FIGHTERS

[Jin22]

If the guy had no training he would get chopped down by leg kicks by a Muay Thai practitioner. A Judo practitioner would throw him to the ground and wrap him up. Jiu-Jutsu guy would take him to the ground and bend his limbs in ways they where made for.Thats not entirely true. I know you've heard the saying, "experience is the best teacher". Anybody could have no training what-so-ever and have been in fights all of his life. That guy would be a beast just for what he's endured.

[Locard]

It all depends on the fighter.

Crocop = Kickboxing
Wanderlei Silva = Muay Thai
Fedor = Sambo and Judo
Antonio Nog = BJJ

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE FIGHTERS

In order to survive in such a high competition level, they all know more than one discipline.

Silva holds a black belt in BJJ
Crocop has studied wrestling
Fedor and Nogueira are also great at boxing

[Gray Wolf]

Thats not entirely true. I know you've heard the saying, "experience is the best teacher". Anybody could have no training what-so-ever and have been in fights all of his life. That guy would be a beast just for what he's endured.

That is basically Tank Abbott he can also bench press 600 lbs. Tank Abbott has beat some guys and brought brutal knock outs but he has been beating by Judo, Muay Thai and Jiujutsu practitioners.

[Sengoku]

I want to see crocop take on Kimbo slice

it would be a massacre though, decapitation ftw.

[Jin22]

That is basically Tank Abbott he can also bench press 600 lbs. Tank Abbott has beat some guys and brought brutal knock outs but he has been beating by Judo, Muay Thai and Jiujutsu practitioners.My point is, those so called martial art practitioners better be masters at their craft. That or be laid out by a blow to the jaw.

[Locard]

My Judo sensei did beat 24 people in a brawl once (and no, he wasn't exagerating, it was published in the newspaper)

[Sengoku]

SCANS NOW.

[Locard]

Sorry, i dont have a scanner.

He hold himself pretty well til the police arrived, he even received a hit with a bottle in the head but kept going.

[Jin22]

I wonder what started the brawl. It was probably at some bar where your sensei got drunk and got to talking.

[Locard]

It was in a park, during a school kermess or something.

My sensei is also a lawyer, and it seems that some people there had a grudge against him due to some lawsuit issues, they got drunk and menaced him and tried to give him a beatin, my sensei did beat them nonsenseless and then some of their siblings and friends joined and tried to gang bang him.

[Jin22]

It was in a park, during a school kermess or something.

My sensei is also a lawyer, and it seems that some people there had a grudge against him due to some lawsuit issues, they got drunk and menaced him and tried to give him a beatin, my sensei did beat them nonsenseless and then some of their siblings and friends joined and tried to gang bang him.Lol thats crazy.

Some people need a nice clean beat down every once in a while.

[Sengoku]

lol thats crazy. XD

[Locard]

lol, i suppose that he wouldn't have been so lucky if the brawlers were Crips, Bloods and kinda stuff, although he's used in dealin with criminals

[Sengoku]

I hope Wanderlei fights Filho this coming February.

[Locard]

Wanderlei is serious business now.

I still remember when he was beaten in 40 secs by Vitor Belfort ^^

[Sengoku]

too bad vitor belfort sucks now.

I heard he is in some different dojo now (i think he created the dojo along with a friend)

and he also said that he will be a new vitor (hinting that he's going to be the vitor when he was in the UFC)
reason? i think he got over his sister's death and other drama.

[Sengoku]

Crocop is going to the UFC too

that is good for Sylvia because i cant stand that fuckface oaf :/

though, at the same time, it is bad for PRIDE FC. :cry

[Gray Wolf]

People have been saying the old Vitor Belfort will come back for years. Vitor looks good against the lower guys in MMA but falls apart when he fights the higher level/elite MMA fighters.

[Sengoku]

Wanderlei needs to fight him too. Revenge $$$

[Locard]

Crocop is going to the UFC too

He finally realized that he'll never beat Fedor :kukuku

[Sengoku]

Fedor is too good. Fedor > Chuck Norris easily.

[Locard]

Yeah, the only thing that can beat Fedor is a bear.

A huge ass bear made out of iron and forged in the flames of hell.

[Sengoku]

Did you know that there was actually a t-1000 in real life? but fedor already went back in time and destroyed it.

thank god :nod

[Locard]

EDit: the bear might also need a shotgun

[Sengoku]

might want to add wings as well or a jetpack to that bear XD

[Locard]

You see how easily Fedor takes his opponents to the ground?
that's the power of Judo, pal.
And once you're down there, you cant do shit cause Fedor is a S-Class sambo master, which is very similar to Jiujitsu but more combative, and it seems like the guy is unphased by pain.
Crocop broke his nose in the last match and Fedor didn't back down (!!),
i remember Crocop trying to pull a Vitor Belfort vs Silva after he landed that punch on Fedor, but Mirko was the one who ended in the ground.
Fedor spits on pain.

[Sengoku]

good luck mark hunt! another win for fedor :laugh

[Gray Wolf]

Fedor will sub Hunt inless Fedor wants to break his hands on Mark Hunt's iron skull.

[Sengoku]

Fedor can toy with him all he wants, fedor will win in the end :D