gaara, sasuke, or naruto

[Shukaku_Demon]

out of these three, who is the weakest?


I would say gaara, because he doesn't posses shukaku anymore (don't get mad because this might of just spoiled something, go read the manga:notrust ) and naruto even beat gaara with shukaku, so yeah

[the_anomaly]

Naruto beat Garra how many years ago? Once! does that mean Naruto will always be stronger than Garra? Of course not.
Lets not forget Naruto fighting Kimi he could not even lay a hand on him & Kimi was not even using his CS!!!!!!
Finnaly Garra comes along and goes toe to toe with Kimi, then kimi CS & finnaly Kimi CS2. So at that point its clear Garra is stronger than Naruto.
Now you could say Naruto > Dederia & Dederia > Garra therefore Naruto > Garra. You would be wrong.
If Garra only cared about himself and just wanted to beat Dederia he wouldnt have lost the way he did or at all he sacrificed himself to save the villiage from that bomb.
Naruto fought Dederia AFTER his fight with Garra. Dederia was already out of his main explosives and he had lost a hand + Chakara. Also Kakashi helped Naruto during the fight also so it wasnt a one on one.
There is no clear evidence that Garra is weaker than Naruto! Garra is a KAGE after all & I am sure he is an all round better ninja.

[Shukaku_Demon]

Naruto beat Garra how many years ago? Once! does that mean Naruto will always be stronger than Garra? Of course not.
Lets not forget Naruto fighting Kimi he could not even lay a hand on him & Kimi was not even using his CS!!!!!!
Finnaly Garra comes along and goes toe to toe with Kimi, then kimi CS & finnaly Kimi CS2. So at that point its clear Garra is stronger than Naruto.
Now you could say Naruto > Dederia & Dederia > Garra therefore Naruto > Garra. You would be wrong.
If Garra only cared about himself and just wanted to beat Dederia he wouldnt have lost the way he did or at all he sacrificed himself to save the villiage from that bomb.
Naruto fought Dederia AFTER his fight with Garra. Dederia was already out of his main explosives and he had lost a hand + Chakara. Also Kakashi helped Naruto during the fight also so it wasnt a one on one.
There is no clear evidence that Garra is weaker than Naruto! Garra is a KAGE after all & I am sure he is an all round better ninja.

if Naruto went 4 tails on gaara, gaara would definetly lose

[theshad]

If Naruto went 4 tails on anyone, they would lose.

[the_anomaly]

If Naruto went 4 tails on anyone, they would lose.

Why is that the case? Oro seemed fine fighting him he even said that he still wasnt better than Saskue. There is no evidence of that at all. Besides Naruto is trying not to use 4 tails or demon fox so I took that into consideration when replying also.

[louis]

right now it is
Sasuke>Naruto>>Garra

in about 20 chapters it will be
Naruto>Sasuke>>Garra

[9Tail-Hokage]

Naruto beat Garra how many years ago? Once! does that mean Naruto will always be stronger than Garra? Of course not.
This is certainly true, but this doesn't mean Gaara's become stronger. Let's recap: Gaara lost his bijuu, Naruto's ascended to ascend to a high level, and not even two weeks has passed since he began his training. Given this information, combined and compounded by the fact that Naruto actually beat Gaara before, I'm giving any kind of benefit of the doubt to Naruto.

Gaara was able to land hits on Kimimaro because he was simply the better match. If Naruto had that chakra shroud, he probably wouldn't have won, but he would've lasted at least as long as Gaara lasted. No one suggested that just because Naruto landed a beating a one-handed Deidara, that he was better than Gaara. Naruto's better than Gaara for other, more legitimate reasons.

And also, Gaara is not as well-rounded a ninja as you're making him out to be. His taijutsu sucks, and unlike Naruto, who's at least taken strides in his weakest fighting stat of genjutsu, Gaara hasn't made any kind of improvements in taijutsu. Pretty sure his speed isn't all that either, since all he does is stand around in one spot and let's his sand do all the work—a contributing factor to why his taijutsu sucks.

[Shukaku_Demon]

Why is that the case? Oro seemed fine fighting him he even said that he still wasnt better than Saskue. There is no evidence of that at all. Besides Naruto is trying not to use 4 tails or demon fox so I took that into consideration when replying also.

lol, what are you talking about? Orochimaru had to use triple rashoman to stop an attack of naruto's and yet he still ended up with his head in the ground

[the_anomaly]

in about 20 chapters it will be
Naruto>Sasuke>>Garra

That will probally be the case.

[Shukaku_Demon]

This is certainly true, but this doesn't mean Gaara's become stronger. Let's recap: Gaara lost his bijuu, Naruto's ascended and is continuing to ascend to a high level, and not ever two weeks has passed since he began his training. Given this information, combined and compounded by the fact that Naruto actually beat Gaara before, I'm giving any kind of benefit of the doubt to Naruto.

Gaara was able to land hits on Kimimaro because he was simply the better match. If Naruto had that chakra shroud, he probably wouldn't have won, but he would've lasted at least as long as Gaara lasted. No one suggested that just because Naruto landed a beating a one-handed Deidara, that he was better than Gaara. Naruto's better than Gaara for other, more legitimate reasons.

And Gaara is not as well-rounded a ninja as you're making him out to be. His taijutsu sucks, and unlike Naruto, who's at least taken strides in his weakest fighting stat of genjutsu, Gaara has made any kind of improvements in taijutsu. Pretty sure his speed isn't all that either, since all he does is stand around in one spot—a contributing factor to why his taijutsu sucks.



lol, I have this videogame about naruto and gaara can't even use taijutsu

[the_anomaly]

lol, what are you talking about? Orochimaru had to use triple rashoman to stop an attack of naruto's and yet he still ended up with his head in the ground


Did oro loose the fight? Did he die? No Oro defend himself did Naruto even hit him? I could be wrong but for most of the fight he hit snake clones and other crazy stuff.

[Shukaku_Demon]

Did oro loose the fight? Did he die? No Oro defend himself did Naruto even hit him? I could be wrong but for most of the fight he hit snake clones and other crazy stuff.

I guess you've got a point, but still naruto would own gaara with 4 tails

[9Tail-Hokage]

Did oro loose the fight? Did he die?
Whether or not he lost the fight is still being debated to this day.
No Oro defend himself did Naruto even hit him? I could be wrong but for most of the fight he hit snake clones and other crazy stuff.
Did MK hit him? He took Orochimaru's arm and severed his body in half. That's more than hitting. If it were anyone other than Orochimaru, they'd be dead.

[the_anomaly]

This is certainly true, but this doesn't mean Gaara's become stronger. Let's recap: Gaara lost his bijuu, Naruto's ascended and is continuing to ascend to a high level, and not ever two weeks has passed since he began his training. Given this information, combined and compounded by the fact that Naruto actually beat Gaara before, I'm giving any kind of benefit of the doubt to Naruto.

Gaara was able to land hits on Kimimaro because he was simply the better match. If Naruto had that chakra shroud, he probably wouldn't have won, but he would've lasted at least as long as Gaara lasted. No one suggested that just because Naruto landed a beating a one-handed Deidara, that he was better than Gaara. Naruto's better than Gaara for other, more legitimate reasons.

And Gaara is not as well-rounded a ninja as you're making him out to be. His taijutsu sucks, and unlike Naruto, who's at least taken strides in his weakest fighting stat of genjutsu, Gaara has made any kind of improvements in taijutsu. Pretty sure his speed isn't all that either, since all he does is stand around in one spot—a contributing factor to why his taijutsu sucks.


I agree that Garra was a better match up against Kimi. All the sand nin were better matched to thier opponants. But I think its quite clear that they were also better than the Konoha nin they were protecting. All the nin they were protecting are chunnin now & the sand siblings are Jounin, Jounin, Kage.

[iander]

Im sure Oro could have sealed him like Jiraiya did to beat him. If they fought again im sure Oro would just kill Naruto before he gets his chakra shield up.

[the_anomaly]

I guess you've got a point, but still naruto would own gaara with 4 tails

Ahhh I was about to forget about this because I thought you were one of those ignorant people that couldnt even acknowledge a valid point etc nice to see your not. Yeah I would say Naruto 4 tails would take Garra. 4 tails is just a beast but at the same time its not really Naruto is it? I mean he doesnt even remeber what happens when he is like that! His whole form changes. He is basically the demon fox. I have to say I am puzzled that Jiriya trained him to use it. The only reason I can think of is that he doubted Naruto could get strong enough on his own to defend himself. Kakashi seems to be the main one who belives in Naruto (oh yeah and Tsunade).
If you are going to bring the four tails into it right now it would be
Saskue>Naruto>Garra. The point being that Saskue seems to be able to control the 4 tails so Naruto wont win that fight.

[Shukaku_Demon]

Ahhh I was about to forget about this because I thought you were one of those ignorant people that couldnt even acknowledge a valid point etc nice to see your not. Yeah I would say Naruto 4 tails would take Garra. 4 tails is just a beast but at the same time its not really Naruto is it? I mean he doesnt even remeber what happens when he is like that! His whole form changes. He is basically the demon fox. I have to say I am puzzled that Jiriya trained him to use it. The only reason I can think of is that he doubted Naruto could get strong enough on his own to defend himself. Kakashi seems to be the main one who belives in Naruto (oh yeah and Tsunade).


correct, it would basically be Kyuubi (not full Kyuubi) v.s Gaara if naruto went 4 tails, so if naruto were to fight Gaara with his Clone jutsus and rasengan, I guess he would lose because all basically gaara would have to do is just throw him around with his sand abilities, yet again Naruto always finds some way to beat his opponent, not all the time though, ut you know what I mean.

[iander]

Im not sure if Jiraiya actually trained him to go to KN4 or whether its because he taunted Naruto to see how far he could transform into the Kyuubi and its because of the weakening of Yondaime's seal that allowed him to go that far.

[the_anomaly]

Im not sure if Jiraiya actually trained him to go to KN4 or whether its because he taunted Naruto to see how far he could transform into the Kyuubi and its because of the weakening of Yondaime's seal that allowed him to go that far.

We wont know until we hear more I guess. May be Jiriya was trying to just train Naruto but he kept transforming. We know this happend with KN4 when he attacked Jiriya.

correct, it would basically be Kyuubi (not full Kyuubi) v.s Gaara if naruto went 4 tails, so if naruto were to fight Gaara with his Clone jutsus and rasengan, I guess he would lose because all basically gaara would have to do is just throw him around with his sand abilities, yet again Naruto always finds some way to beat his opponent, not all the time though, ut you know what I mean.


Yes I know what you mean. The show is called Naruto after all! lol

[9Tail-Hokage]

I agree that Garra was a better match up against Kimi. All the sand nin were better matched to thier opponants. But I think its quite clear that they were also better than the Konoha nin they were protecting. All the nin they were protecting are chunnin now & the sand siblings are Jounin, Jounin, Kage.
Interesting to note that the people they were protecting didn't include the ones mentioned in this thread along with Gaara, those being Naruto, who had left Kimimaro up to Lee to go after his friend, and Sasuke, who was the mission's objective.

It's really no surprise that the Sand siblings ascended to those ranks. Temari and Kankurou, since in part one, they were the oldest and the most experienced of all those who made it to the third stage of the Exams. Their stats were simply better than everyone else's at the time. Gaara was just a powerhouse.

But both Naruto and Sasuke are powerhouses as well. Naruto did beat Gaara before, and I don't think anyone doubts that Naruto's going to eventually be a better Wind user than Temari. With the Curse Seal/Sharingan and Kyuubi/Kage Bunshin method-enhancements, and sheer character importance, it should come as no surprise that Naruto and Sasuke would be better than the Sand siblings eventually, if they're not already now.

[louis]

Ahhh I was about to forget about this because I thought you were one of those ignorant people that couldnt even acknowledge a valid point etc nice to see your not. Yeah I would say Naruto 4 tails would take Garra. 4 tails is just a beast but at the same time its not really Naruto is it? I mean he doesnt even remeber what happens when he is like that! His whole form changes. He is basically the demon fox. I have to say I am puzzled that Jiriya trained him to use it. The only reason I can think of is that he doubted Naruto could get strong enough on his own to defend himself. Kakashi seems to be the main one who belives in Naruto (oh yeah and Tsunade).
If you are going to bring the four tails into it right now it would be
Saskue>Naruto>Garra. The point being that Saskue seems to be able to control the 4 tails so Naruto wont win that fight.


when has sasuke controled the 4 tails form??????

[Shukaku_Demon]

when has sasuke controled the 4 tails form??????

I think he's talking about when sasuke went inside naruto, not really inside but used his sharingan or something, don't know didn't really read that part of the manga and talked to the Kyuubi

[the_anomaly]

when has sasuke controled the 4 tails form??????
ugh have you not read chapter 340??...go read the manga!
I think he's talking about when sasuke went inside naruto, not really inside but used his sharingan or something, don't know didn't really read that part of the manga and talked to the Kyuubi
Yes I meant when Saskue spoke to the demon fox & suppressed its power. If he can do that then Naruto cant use the KN4 & Saskue would beat Naruto.
But that bit was werid I really dont know what is going to happen with all that!
Interesting to note that the people they were protecting didn't include the ones mentioned in this thread along with Gaara, those being Naruto, who had left Kimimaro up to Lee to go after his friend, and Sasuke, who was the mission's objective.

It's really no surprise that the Sand siblings ascended to those ranks. Temari and Kankurou, since in part one, they were the oldest and the most experienced of all those who made it to the third stage of the Exams. Their stats were simply better than everyone else's at the time. Gaara was just a powerhouse.

But both Naruto and Sasuke are powerhouses as well. Naruto did beat Gaara before, and I don't think anyone doubts that Naruto's going to eventually be a better Wind user than Temari. With the Curse Seal/Sharingan and Kyuubi/Kage Bunshin method-enhancements, and sheer character importance, it should come as no surprise that Naruto and Sasuke would be better than the Sand siblings eventually, if they're not already now.


The very fact that Naruto could not even handle kimi but Garra could take on kimi CS 2 is my point. I never talked about Saskue anyway.
I have no doubt that Saskue & Naruto will be the most powerful out of all the rookies,chunnin exam combantants and probally most ninja.

[Sakumo]

Why is that the case? Oro seemed fine fighting him he even said that he still wasnt better than Saskue. There is no evidence of that at all. Besides Naruto is trying not to use 4 tails or demon fox so I took that into consideration when replying also.

He never said sasuke was better then 4 tailed naruto. Mostly cus thats not even close to being true, and he never said it.

right now it is
Sasuke>Naruto>>Garra

in about 20 chapters it will be
Naruto>Sasuke>>Garra

I agree

Did oro loose the fight? Did he die? No Oro defend himself did Naruto even hit him? I could be wrong but for most of the fight he hit snake clones and other crazy stuff.

Actually, IMO, he got his ass thrashed. But, imo, the fight was even KN4 got his butt kicked around too. And oro is stronger then Susuke, also IMO.

Did MK hit him? He took Orochimaru's arm and severed his body in half. That's more than hitting. If it were anyone other than Orochimaru, they'd be dead.

Exactly...

ugh have you not read chapter 340??...go read the manga!

WTF???? 340 isnt even out yet. And Sasuke never ever controlled it, Naruto told him he didn't want to use Kyuubi, Naruto told him NOT Sasuke...

[the_anomaly]

WTF???? 340 isnt even out yet. And Sasuke never ever controlled it, Naruto told him he didn't want to use Kyuubi, Naruto told him NOT Sasuke...

Wow you are too serious! Could you not tell I was messing about? Anyway I would have to use too many quotes so I wont bother. I think the Naruto vs Oro fight was a draw. Im pretty sure Oro said alot of times during the fight that Naruto was not as strong and/or he was comparing them. May be he was saying all that before Naruto went KN4. Yes right now it probally is Saskue > Naruto & Garra but I dont think Naruto will be better than Garra (and I mean Naruto without using KN4) until he finishes this jutsu.

[louis]

[QUOTE=the_anomaly;6212106]ugh have you not read chapter 340??...go read the manga!


why don't you go back and read the manga,naruto was not in 4 tails form and sasuke did was surpress the kyuubis chakra which naruto was refusing to use



Yes I meant when Saskue spoke to the demon fox & suppressed its power. If he can do that then Naruto cant use the KN4 & Saskue would beat Naruto.
But that bit was werid I really dont know what is going to happen with all that!

naruto won't need to go KN4 or even use kyuubi to fight sasuke after his training


but I dont think Naruto will be better than Garra (and I mean Naruto without using KN4) until he finishes this jutsu.

theres no need to use KN4 because naruto would own garra with jus one tail


and last time i checked naruto beat a full deamon garra by using his own power and just a little bit of the kyuubis chakra

[Sakumo]

Wow you are too serious! Could you not tell I was messing about?

Alright didn't seem like u were.

Im pretty sure Oro said alot of times during the fight that Naruto was not as strong and/or he was comparing them. May be he was saying all that before Naruto went KN4.

If he did say that most likely before KN4. Because Oro has to be stronger then Sasuke, or Sasuke wouldn't need to be taken over by Oro to beat his Bro. I mean look at some of the crazy things Oro can do its amasing. Not to mention keep up with The sannin with out hands. Imo, Susuke would get the crap beaten out of him by KN4 but Naruto would get the crap beaten out of him with out it. At least not until the trainin is done, after that one can only guess.

naruto won't need to go KN4 or even use kyuubi to fight sasuke after his training

I agree and even if he does, he can just go KN0 or KN1 and dominate him ;)

[the_anomaly]

If he did say that most likely before KN4. Because Oro has to be stronger then Sasuke, or Sasuke wouldn't need to be taken over by Oro to beat his Bro. I mean look at some of the crazy things Oro can do its amasing. Not to mention keep up with The sannin with out hands. Imo, Susuke would get the crap beaten out of him by KN4 but Naruto would get the crap beaten out of him with out it. At least not until the trainin is done, after that one can only guess.

Ok my memory may be a little hazy with what Oro said. It was probally before Naruto went KN4. Ok the only thing I disagree with is this Naruto >>>>> Garra talk.
With Garra in his current state I think Naruto would have to use the demon fox to beat him. After his training I would say Naruto > Garra both without their demons.
Also Garra MUST be training right now! If you think about it he almost died, lost a battle & has had his bjjui removed. So he has to be adjusting to that and changing his fighting style etc. The world doesnt stand still for Narutos training although I know no one else can do what Narutos doing right now I think its safe to say Garra will be returning to seriously own some Akatuki.
I forgot...
why don't you go back and read the manga,naruto was not in 4 tails form and sasuke did was surpress the kyuubis chakra which naruto was refusing to use

I was joking about what I said 340 doesnt even exsist yet. I think I can remeber Naruto saying he didnt want the demon fox chakara but I could have sworn Saskue did somthing to it also.
What you said about Naruto beating Garra before look at one of my first posts. Just because one person won 1 fight a few years ago does not mean they will always beat that person for the rest of their lives! People can surpass each other.
Chapter 309 cleary states that Saskue supresses the demon fox. The demon fox says it himself.

[bacon753951]

Naruto because he relies on nothing but pure luck.

[Vangelis]

Naruto was the weakest when part 2 first began but now without Shikaku Gaara is the weakest.

[FoxSpirit]

So far Gaara is the weakest.... With the Sasuke ,Itachi battle and the Naruto battles we've seen enough to know that they are better.

[Itachi's Apprentice 3]

Part 1 Chunnin Exams arc: Naruto>Gaara>Sasuke
Part 1 Sasuke Retrieval arc: Sasuke>Gaara>Naruto
Part 2 Pre Shukaku Extraction: Sasuke>Gaara>Naruto(2 tailed and below)
Part 2 Post Shukaku Extraction: Sasuke>>>Naruto>>>Gaara(They may as well have left him dead.)

[Raiden]

I would have to say Gaara. From what we've seen so far, all he does is manipulate sand which in other words means that he is not a well rounded shinobi. Being that this is the case, if Sasuke and Naruto could somehow work past his sand they would be able to win. Sasuke's speed was almost able to beat the sand's two and a half years ago in the series so I'm guessing he would manage to get through. Naruto would just probably use the same methods as last time, relying on the Kyuubi's power and simply overpower Gaara.