Id in the Shonenverse

[Keollyn]

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Say Graf... why are these bitches more popular than I?

Id, quite peeved, decides that it is time that these shonen asshats (Id's thoughts, not mine) need a lesson in humility (or just pure, goddamn, pain). He proceeds to take Xenogears and lands in each verse one at a time. In order not to curbstompu some of the worlds, he leaves Xenogears behind. Finding his target/s, he proceeds to do what he does best.. delivers pain. What are his results for the following:

The verses

Naruto
Bleach
One Piece
Death Note
Dragon Ball/Z/GT
Fist of the North Star
Digimon
Mobile Suit Gundam
Hunter X Hunter
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Pokemon
Ranma 1/2
Seint Seiya
Ronin Warriors
Sonic X
Slayers
Samurai Deeper Kyo
Yu Yu Hakusho

Anyone that I miss and you care to give a reply to, be my guest


1) Cannot call on Xenogears
a. The verse has no knowledge of Id and his presense
b. The verse has knowledge of Id and his presense (I.E. Prep = 15 min)

2) Can call on Xenogears if needed
a. The verse has no knowledge of Id and his presense
b. The verse has knowledge of Id and his presense (I.E. Prep = 15 min)

[Orion]

i could see him dominating preety much every one of those verses lol.

[Timur Lane]

If Saint Seyia was added im sure the odds had been much better (not the whole universe of course, that would be to much)

[DarkLordDragon]

Well if Id is the same ID as I know from Gemini Saga vs Id then he will be defeated by some of the universes but if it's the "Almost omnipotent ID" I don't think anyone will win...

Well among the Universe you already posted I would say that the YYH universe would surely win, give the Power Sphere to Yakuma and there you have a being who will easily defeat Id...

Gogeta and Buu also would pwn him but that only if it's not the near omnipotent Id, because as far as I know this guy doesn't even have the speed of light...

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Naruto - They would lose to Id.
Bleach - They could beat him.
One Piece - Dunno.
Death Note - Dunno.
Dragon Ball/Z/GT - Id won't last 5 seconds.
Fist of the North Star - Dunno.
Digimon - Not sure.
Mobile Suit Gundam - Dunno.
Hunter X Hunter - Not sure.
Neon Genesis Evangelion - ^Same.
Pokemon - They could win.
Seint Seiya - They also win.
Slayers - They win (LON).
Samurai Deeper Kyo - They could beat him.
Yu Yu Hakusho - ^ Same.

[Vicious]

Millenniummon FTW..

[Keollyn]

If Saint Seyia was added im sure the odds had been much better (not the whole universe of course, that would be to much)

Actually, that's how it is set up. He goes within one universe, and prepares to do his thing.

All things consider, one must believe that not every opponent is going to be in the same place at the same time.

So, I don't really think the whole universe would be problematic. A gangup would though. But then, that's what the second scenario is for (Xenogears)

Well if Id is the same ID as I know from Gemini Saga vs Id then he will be defeated by some of the universes but if it's the "Almost omnipotent ID" I don't think anyone will win...

Well among the Universe you already posted I would say that the YYH universe would surely win, give the Power Sphere to Yakuma and there you have a being who will easily defeat Id...

Gogeta and Buu also would pwn him but that only if it's not the near omnipotent Id, because as far as I know this guy doesn't even have the speed of light...

Which Id was in the Gemini Saga VS. Id thread?

What does Power Sphere do?

Gogeta doesn't really have any methods to put away Id. Boo transmigration COULD possibly work, but then you have to take into account that Id is protected by the Wave Existence. How do you suppose Boo can get around that?

Naruto - They would lose to Id.
Bleach - They could beat him.
One Piece - Dunno.
Death Note - Dunno.
Dragon Ball/Z/GT - Id won't last 5 seconds.
Fist of the North Star - Dunno.
Digimon - Not sure.
Mobile Suit Gundam - Dunno.
Hunter X Hunter - Not sure.
Neon Genesis Evangelion - ^Same.
Pokemon - They could win.
Seint Seiya - They also win.
Slayers - They win (LON).
Samurai Deeper Kyo - They could beat him.
Yu Yu Hakusho - ^ Same.

Do you even know who Id is?

LoN doesn't take an active role in her verse, so she'd be a non-factor.

Millenniummon FTW..

Any reason would be nice.

[Endless Mike]

He lost to Z in a thread I made, so I'm pretty sure the Tenchiverse would beat him....

[Keollyn]

Tenchi is shonen?

[Endless Mike]

Yes, it is. Harem anime is a shounen genre.

[Keollyn]

Meh.. guys don't like 4+ girls drooling over one guy...

At least, not if it isn't them.

[~Shin~]

Would death god jutsu work on Id? And would death note work on Id?

[Keollyn]

How are they accomplished again?

[~Shin~]

death god jutsu is by doing seals and u get sealed inside the death god and death note is basically writing his name on the death note and he dies

[Keollyn]

Sealed inside the death god? Can't quite understand that one.

I kind of remember the DN now. They die however the person describes, right? If that condition can't be met, the die of a heart attack. What kind of death were you thinking one of the shinigami would write?

[Keollyn]

Just read the death god jutsu. It's a soul-kill technique. No, it wouldn't work.

[Endless Mike]

Meh.. guys don't like 4+ girls drooling over one guy...

At least, not if it isn't them.

They do if there is a lot of fanservice....

[~Shin~]

well, the death note, u can be as creative as u want, there's no limit to the ways u can make them die

[Endless Mike]

Well from what I read, the cause of death has to have some probability of actually happening in the situation, like for example, if you write "target's molecules spontaneously undergo nuclear fusion" that likely won't work.

[Id]

Oh I didn’t debate Id at full capacity (in the Id vs. Saga match).
I didn’t want to be cheap and end the match with a planet destruction, destroying Saga in the process.
And I did not place enough emphasis on the superiority Big Bang has over Galactic Explosion.

Plus I did not bother to mention the nature of Id’s power (reality warping). Prior to Keollyn’s; Explanation over the Phenomena Alteration Systems (Oh by the way good job). I had a general idea, but I could not fully grasp it. So I never bothered in debating that ability.


Um…. with more info digging, a wider span of knowledge over Xenogears. I can say that Saga never needed any handicaps, and it was Id who required them more so.

With out nerfing down Id; I don’t think there is a single Saint, or minor God that can take on Id.

[DarkLordDragon]

What about Id's Speed? Is he at least 100 Times the speed of Sound?

[Goodfellow]

Is neon evangesis evangelion a shohen -.-V?
C'mon, it's a seinen, isn't it?

[Id]

What about Id's Speed? Is he at least 100 Times the speed of Sound?
Well the problem is that Light Speed users must go for the kill before, before Id realizes the speed advantage they naturally have over him.

But before that, speedsters must overcome the natural protection that the WE provides. That’s not a simple task.

Second part is that once Id realizes his speed is outmatched, by his own power granted to him by Harr. He would be able to match it and a exceed it. (that’s all thanks to PAS, and Him not restrained in channeling power through PoS)

Is neon evangesis evangelion a shohen -.-V?
C'mon, it's a seinen, isn't it?

I do not know if it is considered Shonen. But……

I would love to see the best of both worlds collide. I think Xenogears is a superior Mecha, and Id is a better pilot, then Unit 01 w/ Organic Engine & Spear of L.




PS (didn’t me and you have a deabte over Xenogears vs. Eva????)