Drizzt Do'Urden vs. Captain America [Archive]

EvilMoogle

12-01-2006, 12:22 AM

EvilMoogle's Random Battledome presents:

Drizzt Do'Urden (Forgotten Realms)
-Current as of the end of "The Two Swords" all equipment and abilities. We're using the book canon so leave your 1st/2nd/3rd edition character sheets at home.
-All of his current normal equipment, but no kitty-cat helper.

Captain America (Marvel 616)
-Pre "Civil War" as we don't want to deal with the headache of a currently ongoing plot arc.

Location: The Bridge of the Enterprise-D, the computer's locked down and won't respond to either of their voice requests. They can leave the bridge, but the turbolifts are out of order so they'll have to deal with that (hey, I said it would be random).

Bloodlust: Heck yes, who wants to watch two goodie-goodies fight it out?
Preptime: None, however they both get to read the Wikipedia articles on the other (but no links!) before the fight. We'll assume that Drizzt can read English.

So, shield vs. swords, who wins?

Guy Gardner

12-01-2006, 01:14 AM

...

You are just awesome for thinking this battle up.

Personally, I'm not sure. Probably Captain America. He's something like a Fighter 21, isn't Drizzt only a Ranger 16?[/dorkishness]

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 01:15 AM

Unfortunately Evil, I think that this thread might fail, but I hope it doesn't. Reason being, that I once tried to put Drizzt in a fight, and aside from Darklyre and myself (and you EDIT: and apparently J&R) nobody knew who he is.

I think that Drizzt has been better trained and has much more combat experience then CA, but without Guenwhyvar, he's not exactly at full strength.

My vote still goes with Drizzt however, because he has a tendency to call upon Deus Ex Machina a fair bit (and just because I like him more).

EDIT: Drizzt is actually something like Ranger 8, Rogue 4, Weapon Master 3, and Monk 1 (I know that you shouldn't be able to have 4 classes, but Drizzt is an exception).

Darklyre

12-01-2006, 01:22 AM

I dunno, Cap has some crazy Deux Ex Machina of his own going on. He's also got that ridiculously good trigonometry skill of his that lets him richochet things in ways that shouldn't ever be possible. Drizzt is good, but he's only slightly superhuman (due mainly to elf agility and the bracers on his feet). Cap, in D&D terms, would be like a fighter on Drizzt's level, but with permanent cleric buffs on and a Wondrous Shield of Indestructibility.

martryn

12-01-2006, 01:26 AM

I think Drizzt takes it. I mean, Captain America might have 18's through high 20's in his ability scores, but his fists do subdual damage and he's not wearing armor, minus a +3-4 adamantium throwing shield of returning. Drizzt gets like, what, 6 attacks a round? And with the crit range of a scimitar? I don't care if Cap'n has a 30 Con and is rolling a d12 HD and is a level 21 fighter, Drizzt wins. Who seriously uses shield bash?

Guy Gardner

12-01-2006, 01:59 AM

Dude, Capts going to have feats up the ass. If he uses the edge of his shield like he did against Herr Kleiser, that's piercing damage in a big way. Add on his throwing ability (Which would be like one of those crazy +2 Throwing Axe that returns to it's user, and he's in business. Hell, you might want to call it area effect even with how he can ricochet it to hit multiple targets.

Plus he does wear a form of Kevlar, which would be somewhere in the range of Splint Mail +3, +6 against ranged weapons. Along with his shield and natural dexterity (He's probably in the 21-22 range), good 'ol Drizz would be have a hard time hurting him, especially with the amount of HP that fighters get.

Oh, and don't forget the Potion of Speed that he got from Quicksilver, the Gauntlets of Protection from Iron Man, and Ring of Lightning from Thor. Those have to add up.

And I'm a player of GURPS, DnD (1st, 2nd, 3rd, whatever edition you want), and Star Wars RPG (Mostl WotC, but I have a few WEG books). I also LOVE the Baldur's Gate series and the Forgotten Realms setting. I am Duke of New Dork, A Number 1 BITCHES!!!

Lazarus

12-01-2006, 02:04 AM

Drizzt, if he has his bracers of speed :D

<3

martryn

12-01-2006, 02:11 AM

Ok, so let's add it up then.

+3 large shield - +5 AC
Kevlar - +8 AC?
Dex of 22 - +6 AC
Dodge - +1 vs. Drizzt

AC of 30? Drizzt is attacking at... what? +16 from levels, +1 from Weapon focus, +2 or so from Str, +2 from weapon enchantments. That's +21 on his main attacks. He hits more than enough. His number of attacks and damage is more than Cap can do to Drizzt, especially when Drizzt becomes the Hunter (rages).

Lazarus

12-01-2006, 02:13 AM

Especially since he dual wields, and therefore logically has more hits, though he gets some points off in his off hand, depending what level he has in it...

Darklyre

12-01-2006, 03:41 AM

martryn

12-01-2006, 03:44 AM

Actually, Cap's outfit is considered chainmail, I believe. Highly advanced near-bulletproof chainmail, but there you go.

Well, I guess that'd be +3 chainmail in my calculations up there. Same thing. Drizzt still wins.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 04:32 AM

Well, I guess that'd be +3 chainmail in my calculations up there. Same thing. Drizzt still wins.

I would have said +5, verging on +6.

Orion

12-01-2006, 04:51 AM

can drizzt break a preety much indestructible metal that absorbs impact?

martryn

12-01-2006, 04:59 AM

can drizzt break a preety much indestructible metal that absorbs impact?

Yes. Leave this thread now, I don't like you.

Locard

12-01-2006, 05:02 AM

Cap wins with his nasty jobber aura

can drizzt break a preety much indestructible metal that absorbs impact?No.

And Cap's suit is indeed chainmail, bulletproof (chest area) and fire retardant

oh, and dont forget his endless stamina

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 05:53 AM

can drizzt break a preety much indestructible metal that absorbs impact?

No, but he doesn't need to. Drizzt has had over 60 years of training and battle experience, and is reknowned as the most skilled swordsman of both his era, and race. Finding openings in defences is all too easy for him.

Getting through Cap's armour wouldn't prove to difficult, as his weapons are enchanted enough to pierce armour made by the Drow (arguably the best armorers in the known world, next to Dwarves).

However, stamina and strength are Drizzt's downfalls, as he usually relies on stealth, dexterity and speed.

Orion

12-01-2006, 05:55 AM

^^caps got some good reflexes and insane sta along with the strength advantage i really dont see him leaving an opening to be exploited very easily.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 06:15 AM

^^caps got some good reflexes and insane sta along with the strength advantage i really dont see him leaving an opening to be exploited very easily.

I didn't say he'd leave an opening easily, just that Drizzt would find one easily. And Drizzt's reflexes have been honed from blind-fighting in the underdark (a place with no natural light).

When it comes to stamina, Drizzt is better then your average fighter (can fight for a couple of good hours), but isn't as longlasting as CA.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 06:45 AM

No, but he doesn't need to. Drizzt has had over 60 years of training and battle experience, and is reknowned as the most skilled swordsman of both his era, and race. Finding openings in defences is all too easy for him.

Getting through Cap's armour wouldn't prove to difficult, as his weapons are enchanted enough to pierce armour made by the Drow (arguably the best armorers in the known world, next to Dwarves).

However, stamina and strength are Drizzt's downfalls, as he usually relies on stealth, dexterity and speed.

Most armor made by the Drow will be disintigrated by sunlight=>Adamantanium

Drizzt his armor if I remember correctly is a Mythril ChainMail +4, Mythril is mostly used by the Elves and Dwarves not the Drow and since most know Drizzt for his good deeds, despite the Elven hatred towards the Drow, either the Elves or some of the Dwarves (maybe his Dwarven friend, forgot his name) forged that armor for him. The Drow have the best armor, that's true but that kind of armor can only be used in the Underdark.

Drizzt is a lvl 10 fighter, lvl 5 or 6 ranger and a lvl 1 Barbarian, that makes him lvl 16, 17max. Despite his fighting skills, he's no match for Cap America, it's a bit stupid putting Marvel comics vs. AD&D chars.

In the Underdark however it's a different story, Drizzt would make a short proces of Cap.

Most chars in Marvel are too overpowered, it's pretty sad. Even if I don't like Drizzt losing I think Cap would win, at least if Drizzt is without his loyal companion.

I think only Epic chars would be able to beat some Marvel chars and some of the strongest beasts like Dragons.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 06:51 AM

I think a lot of Greater Demons could get the job done (Mephistopholes and Demogorgon come to mind). And unfortunately, without the help of Guen (and while being in a well lit area), Drizzt probably wouldn't win (unless Deus Ex Machina pulls through for him).

Although, if he were teamed up with Artemis, THAT would be an entirely different story altogether.

konflikti

12-01-2006, 06:59 AM

This thread is made of win and awesome, regardless of the winner.

As OP said, get the hell out with your character sheets, this is Drizzt as depicted in the books. "He is just lvl 16." isn't a justifiable reason for his loss.

martryn

12-01-2006, 06:59 AM

Despite his fighting skills, he's no match for Cap America, it's a bit stupid putting Marvel comics vs. AD&D chars.

But why? Is Captain America going to... beat him with his shield? Drizzt has fought and won against bigger, stronger, better equipped and armored fighters before. Obould was exactly that, stronger, tougher, and better armored than I'd say Captain America. Drizzt best him, didn't he? I'm saying that Drizzt's technique is too good for Cap'n to keep up. His scimitars are heavily magical, so it's not that he wouldn't do damage if he hit, and hit he would.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:08 AM

True, enough Demons and Devils could make the job done.

Demogorgon is from Baldur's Gate game, I dunno if he really exists in AD&D and Mephistopheles is from NWN and makes him only a boss, dunno either if he really exists.

NWN is stupid, I mean how the fuck can 1 char kill an old Dragon, especially a Great Wyrm, it's possible to kill a White Great Wyrm maybe, but all the rest? no friggin way, hell in NVM you can kill a Dracolich and a Prismatic Dragon rofl.

Baldur's Gate is a way better game though also a bit unrealistic, I mean Helm himself had difficulties defeating Demogorgon so he sealed him up, and then I come with my party and make the job done easy (killing him) AND worst, getting NO ITEMS at all, kinda sad...

But if we go to real power then we should let the Epic monsters and Deities fight Marvel chars, that way they could destory them easy, even Pre Crisis Superman would have no chance battling some of the ancient beasts.

Orion

12-01-2006, 07:12 AM

supes is dc.....and even the pre crisis version wouldnt be in the top 6-7 tiers of marvel.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 07:16 AM

Madara;6180782']True, enough Demons and Devils could make the job done.

Demogorgon is from Baldur's Gate game, I dunno if he really exists in AD&D and Mephistopheles is from NWN and makes him only a boss, dunno either if he really exists.

NWN is stupid, I mean how the fuck can 1 char kill an old Dragon, especially a Great Wyrm, it's possible to kill a White Great Wyrm maybe, but all the rest? no friggin way, hell in NVM you can kill a Dracolich and a Prismatic Dragon rofl.

Baldur's Gate is a way better game though also a bit unrealistic, I mean Helm himself had difficulties defeating Demogorgon so he sealed him up, and then I come with my party and make the job done easy (killing him) AND worst, getting NO ITEMS at all, kinda sad...

But if we go to real power then we should let the Epic monsters and Deities fight Marvel chars, that way they could destory them easy, even Pre Crisis Superman would have no chance battling some of the ancient beasts.

Both Mephy and Demo are actual storyline demons. And I just remembered that Drizzt doesn't need to fight in the underdark, he's got his globes of impeneterable darkness.

One of those and a couple of quick flurries, and CA won't know what hit him.

PS: I've yet to play Baldur's. I've only played IWD1, and NWN (SoU & HotU).

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:16 AM

But why? Is Captain America going to... beat him with his shield? Drizzt has fought and won against bigger, stronger, better equipped and armored fighters before. Obould was exactly that, stronger, tougher, and better armored than I'd say Captain America. Drizzt best him, didn't he? I'm saying that Drizzt's technique is too good for Cap'n to keep up. His scimitars are heavily magical, so it's not that he wouldn't do damage if he hit, and hit he would.

No, King Obould is nothing, just a mere Orc King that's a bit smarter than the rest, really he's nothing special.

Drizzt got his 2 Magical Scimitars, Frost Scimitar +3 that does only an additional 1d6 frost dmg. and a +2 defending scimitar wich grants a +2 to his AC. So his total dmg. is 1d6 +6 plus 1d6 frost and 1d6 +4 from his off hand.

My char fighter lvl 6 does almost more dmg than Drizzt wich is 10 lvls above. Though 1on1 he would finish me off easy of course, due to his Dex and HP.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:23 AM

Both Mephy and Demo are actual storyline demons. And I just remembered that Drizzt doesn't need to fight in the underdark, he's got his globes of impeneterable darkness.

One of those and a couple of quick flurries, and CA won't know what hit him.

PS: I've yet to play Baldur's. I've only played IWD1, and NWN (SoU & HotU).

Oh...didn't know that Mephy and Demo existed, searched for them everywhere in so many books and couldn't find them, found way stronger foes though.

About the globes of impeneterable darkenss, Drizzt does not have it:wink
What's quick flurry? You mean flurry attacks or?

Side note: You should definitely play BG, especially SoA and ToB, best D&D game ever :) I found it better than IWD and NWN, NWN just sux, good thing it's AD&D unlinke BG and IWD but it's so easy that it's no fun and only 1 char playin, so unrealistic.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 07:26 AM

supes is dc.....and even the pre crisis version wouldnt be in the top 6-7 tiers of marvel.

You don't know how powerful D&D Greater Demons/Devils are, do you?

As a rule, greater demons/devils generally have:
-immense strength & endurance,
-unusually quick reflexes,
-knowledge of thousands of spells,
-large amounts of unbridled arcane power,
-moderate telekinetic and telepathic abilities,
-omniscience within a certain radius

This can vary, but usually doesn't. These abilities however are only what they are restricted to when in the mortal realm.

While in their own plane, they are essentially gods, with ever power previously listed at 10 times that strength, in adittion to total omniscience, and reality alteration powers on a dimensional scale.

Orion

12-01-2006, 07:28 AM

i wasnt talking about that i was just saying that he made it seem like pre crisis supes is something,hes weak as shit compared to the upper marvel tiers is what i was trying to say.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:31 AM

You don't know how powerful D&D Greater Demons/Devils are, do you?

As a rule, greater demons/devils generally have:
-immense strength & endurance,
-unusually quick reflexes,
-knowledge of thousands of spells,
-large amounts of unbridled arcane power,
-moderate telekinetic and telepathic abilities,
-omniscience within a certain radius

This can vary, but usually doesn't. These abilities however are only what they are restricted to when in the mortal realm.

While in their own plane, they are essentially gods, with ever power previously listed at 10 times that strength, in adittion to total omniscience, and reality alteration powers on a dimensional scale.

Yeah, that's only a few of abilities to name and these Demons and Devils like Balors and Pit Fiends aren't to compare to Epic beasts haha, I know a beast that could finish Supes in a sec lol...

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 07:33 AM

Madara;6180850']Oh...didn't know that Mephy and Demo existed, searched for them everywhere in so many books and couldn't find them, found way stronger foes though.

About the globes of impeneterable darkenss, Drizzt does not have it:wink

I'm sorry, but that went right by me. Care to clarify?

Madara;6180850']What's quick flurry? You mean flurry attacks or?

Side note: You should definitely play BG, especially SoA and ToB, best D&D game ever :) I found it better than IWD and NWN, NWN just sux, good thing it's AD&D unlinke BG and IWD but it's so easy that it's no fun and only 1 char playin, so unrealistic.

Yes, I did mean a quick flurry of attacks. I want to play BG, but despite how old it is, it's still damned expensive. Stupid popularity, ruining all my fun... :P

@Vlad: Sorry! Misinterpreted what you were saying. Precrisis supes however, is often used as a measure of sorts against other's powers.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:33 AM

i wasnt talking about that i was just saying that he made it seem like pre crisis supes is something,hes weak as shit compared to the upper marvel tiers is what i was trying to say.

No I was giving an example as Marvel char are just too overpowered, it's no fun anymore and according to pre crisis supes abilities it's a bit too much, let alone as you say that he's nothing to compare to some others.

Orion

12-01-2006, 07:34 AM

martryn

12-01-2006, 07:36 AM

Madara, please don't try to "own me" in DnD. I doubt anyone on the forum has as much DnD experience or knowledge I do. Yes, I'm the biggest geek here.

No, King Obould is nothing, just a mere Orc King that's a bit smarter than the rest, really he's nothing special.

That's the point though. People are quoting CA greater strength and powerful armor and equipment as a selling point on his winning. Obould was much stronger than Drizzt and better armed than he was, and he still lost due to Drizzt's skill. The difference in fighting skill is what is really going to make Drizzt come out on top.

Drizzt has seen more action that CA. He spent a decade alone in the underdark living as the Hunter. He trained for several decades as a drow warrior.

Drizzt got his 2 Magical Scimitals, Frost Scimitar +3 that does only an additional 1d6 frost dmg. and a +2 defending scimitar wich grants a +2 to his AC. So his total dmg. is 1d6 +6 plus 1d6 frost and 1d6 +4 from his off hand.

If we're going stats, then his BAB is +16, giving him attacks at +16/+11/+6/+1, not to mention two attacks from his off-hand weapon at +16/+11. I guess those all drop by two, I guess, I can't find my PHB so I can look up what feat 6th level rangers get.

My char fighter lvl 6 does almost more dmg than Drizzt wich is 10 lvls above. Though 1on1 he would finish me off easy of course, due to his Dex and HP.

Your fighter is not canon, and he can't do more damage than Drizzt with all those fucking attacks he gets. You fighter would get two attacks compared to his 6. Not to mention God only knows what method of rolling up your character you used, or what campaign your character is set in. Hell, have you ever even played PnP?

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 07:40 AM

yet again u said fight the marvel chars..and supes isnt a marvel char nor is he anything compared to cosmics in marvel,if this is the whole universe vs universe then does the other side have someone comparable to the lt or toaa.

They do have someone who compares to TOAA, but I can't remember his name right now. Hopefully, someone else will. All I know is that he's some God who ignores his worshippers.

martryn

12-01-2006, 07:43 AM

All I know is that he's some God who ignores his worshippers.

Are you talking about FR? Ao?

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 07:46 AM

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:53 AM

Madara, please don't try to "own me" in DnD. I doubt anyone on the forum has as much DnD experience or knowledge I do. Yes, I'm the biggest geek here.

That's the point though. People are quoting CA greater strength and powerful armor and equipment as a selling point on his winning. Obould was much stronger than Drizzt and better armed than he was, and he still lost due to Drizzt's skill. The difference in fighting skill is what is really going to make Drizzt come out on top.

Drizzt has seen more action that CA. He spent a decade alone in the underdark living as the Hunter. He trained for several decades as a drow warrior.

If we're going stats, then his BAB is +16, giving him attacks at +16/+11/+6/+1, not to mention two attacks from his off-hand weapon at +16/+11. I guess those all drop by two, I guess, I can't find my PHB so I can look up what feat 6th level rangers get.

Your fighter is not canon, and he can't do more damage than Drizzt with all those fucking attacks he gets. You fighter would get two attacks compared to his 6. Not to mention God only knows what method of rolling up your character you used, or what campaign your character is set in. Hell, have you ever even played PnP?

LoL you say that you have most knowlegde in D&D yet you say that Obould was stronger and better armed, no he wasn't. Obould is a 9lvl char fyi, 5lvl Barbarian and 4lvl Fighter.

Yes Drizzt is lvl 16, and the BAB you listed matches almost perfectly.

My char would do more dmg in one hit, not in total dmg. I'm wearing a great axe of +3, and my STR is 22 while Drizzt his is 13, so my dmg would be 1d12 + 14 crit x3 and no, I used standard rules to build up my char and the campaign is normally set, a friend is a DM and we play according to normal rules.

Mortalis, here's a link of True Drizzt's ablities and equipment.

I had to do it quickly so I messed it a bit up, sorry.

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drizztsr7.jpg

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 07:55 AM

Ao, that's the one. Isn't he the one who took away the powers of all the God's (effectively making them mortals) because they weren't paying enough attention to their worshippers?

Kind of hypocritical if you ask me...

No, he's an upper God that did that to some Gods like Myrkul, Bhaal and some1 else I forgot because they stole an important artifact if I remember correctly. Might be wrong on this one though, it's been years...

konflikti

12-01-2006, 08:00 AM

Madara]Mortalis, here's a link of True Drizzt's ablities and equipment.

I had to do it quickly so I messed it a bit up, sorry.

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drizztsr7.jpg

Are you thick or what?

We're using the book canon so leave your 1st/2nd/3rd edition character sheets at home.

DnD stats don't matter, since we're comparing Drizzt from books against Cap. And there is little to none sense either way, unless you can bring up proper DnD sheet for Cap.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 08:06 AM

To be honest I dunno much about CA so I should stfu. I like D&D chars more anyway so I should vote for Drizzt, I just made a stupid assumption that CA would beat him because of the unreal strenght that Marvel chars posses.

For example look at Spiderman, imo his strenght in D&D would be easy like 30 while Drizzt got 13, don't even wanna know what kind of STR Hulk would have. It's just BS. That's why I thought that CA would be at least to compare his STR to Spiderman ...if not more, if not then Drizzt takes the fight easy due to his long life experience, he has killed Dragons and one of most deadly Assassins in his life so let's say that Drizzt wins...unless you guys come up with something :)

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 08:10 AM

Are you thick or what?

Not really...actually not at all:P

konflikti

12-01-2006, 08:12 AM

Madara;6181027']To be honest I dunno match about CA so I should stfu. I like D&D chars more anyway so I should vote for Drizzt, I just made a stupid assumption that CA would beat him because of the unreal strenght that Marvel chars posses.

If you were to put Cap in DnD abilities... Well, peak human(although he does go beyond this limit all the time) is a pretty good definition to start from. Where goes the line between "super-human" and peak human in DnD? If it were for me, I'd put him somewhere with Wulfgar in strenght and somewhat below Drizzt in dexterity. Constitution should be bit in the super-human side if you ask me.

That's something I could accept, but all the other factors are up in the air. Like his class and level and so forth.

Nevertheless, books are what matters.

Madara;6181027']For example look at Spiderman, imo his strenght in D&D would be easy like 30 while Drizzt got 13, don't even wanna know what kind of STR Hulk would have. It's just BS. That's why I thought that CA would be at least to compare his STR to Spiderman ...if not more, if not then Drizzt takes the fight easy due to his long live experience, he has killed Dragons and one of most deadly Assassins in his life so let's say that Drizzt wins...unless you guys come up with something :)

Spidey is lot stronger than Cap. Him being somewhere in the 10-20 ton range, depending on his needs, while cap being able to press something like a 800 pounds.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 08:20 AM

If you were to put Cap in DnD abilities... Well, peak human(although he does go beyond this limit all the time) is a pretty good definition to start from. Where goes the line between "super-human" and peak human in DnD? If it were for me, I'd put him somewhere with Wulfgar in strenght and somewhat below Drizzt in dexterity. Constitution should be bit in the super-human side if you ask me.

That's something I could accept, but all the other factors are up in the air. Like his class and level and so forth.

Nevertheless, books are what matters.

I agree, super-human STR in D&D is usually 20+

I dunno what lvl CA whould have, but since his CON is 20+ as you say he should have more HP than Drizzt, unless he's like below lvl 10 if you put it that way.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 08:24 AM

Spidey is lot stronger than Cap. Him being somewhere in the 10-20 ton range, depending on his needs, while cap being able to press something like a 800 pounds.

Ok good, well saying that makes Drizzt victorious. He's way older, I assume also wiser, has more fighting experience and speed.

Orion

12-01-2006, 08:31 AM

^^ca is a fighting genious with good enough reflexes to dodge bullets along with a shield that cannot be broken,and has way to much stamina for his own good idk how long can drizzt fight for?

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 08:33 AM

Drizzt can also dogde bullets.

Why can't his shield be broken?

What good is his stamina if he lacks speed?

Orion

12-01-2006, 08:36 AM

he has good speed...and his shield is a wierd ass metal mix thats preety much unbreakable thor hit it with all his might and it only barely dented it(thor is like 100+class strength).

konflikti

12-01-2006, 08:40 AM

he has good speed...and his shield is a wierd ass metal mix thats preety much unbreakable thor hit it with all his might and it only barely dented it(thor is like 100+class strength).

Well, the thing that in my minds tips it towards Drizzt is that he wields 2 swords, that are very cabable of hurting Cap, and Cap only has one shield and HtH. Drizzt has been fighting against shields and people wielding them + additional weapons for a long time.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 08:46 AM

Thor the ThunderGod? Dunno maybe CA his shield absorbs lightning.

But even with that shield there's always an opening where Drizzt can strike.

Orion

12-01-2006, 08:48 AM

he didnt use thunder,he used his hammer.the shield preety much absorbs all impacts i think.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 10:05 AM

There is no way that Drizzt is going to scratch CA's shield. But, as I said before, this does not matter (unless of course, CA's shield can now envelop his entire body at all times).

PS: the Hulk's strength is around 60 normally, and hits the high 200's when he's angry (this is just an assumption)

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 10:08 AM

So...that means that the winner=Drizzt.

Congratulations Drizzt, now go and try to beat some1 like Elminster haha.:P

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 10:15 AM

Madara;6181477']So...that means that the winner=Drizzt.

Congratulations Drizzt, now go and try to beat some1 like Elminster haha.:P

Or he could finally kill Artemis.

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 10:21 AM

Nah..highly doubt that he can kill a Goddess. Unless you meant it sarcastic^^

Edit: Also many confuse Drizzt as a Ranger, he's more a Fighter than a Ranger, most Drow males are either Fighters or Thieves and sometimes Wizards while females are mostly Clerics.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 10:22 AM

Madara;6181521']Nah..highly doubt that he can kill a Goddess. Unless you meant it sarcastic^^

Actually, I was referring to Artemis Entreri.

EvilMoogle

12-01-2006, 10:26 AM

Geeze, I go to sleep for a few hours and this thread explodes smile-big

I think I'd generally agree that Drizzt would win eventually, though I do think it would be a fairly spectacular fight while it went on.

And for the record, in second edition, Drizzt was a fighter-18 that dual classed to ranger-21 or something along those lines (yeah, Drow can't dual class). That let him be a ranger that was specialized in the scimitar. He also had a backstab ability and a special crit ability.

Thanks for everyone's participation, maybe I'll try something like this again the next time I'm bored ;)

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 10:35 AM

Actually, I was referring to Artemis Entreri.

Ah sorry...well in that case Drizzt is stronger, has been proven, but would be an interesting fight nevertheless.

EvilMoogle I dunno where you saw Drizzt having lvl 18 or 21 I'm sorry but that's not true, I posted his true stats of Forgotten Realms. He's lvl 16.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 10:39 AM

Madara;6181582']Ah sorry...well in that case Drizzt is stronger, has been proven, but would be an interesting fight nevertheless.

EvilMoogle I dunno where you saw Drizzt having lvl 18 or 21 I'm sorry but that's not true, I posted his true stats of Forgotten Realms. He's lvl 16.

Actually, there's a chance that his stats have been redone. I know that Artemis has been redone as level 24.

Rock-Lee

12-01-2006, 10:42 AM

CA would definetly win... CA's shield is made of adamantium (wolverine's blade metal) and vibranium... which makes it industructable.... for Drizzt on the other hand he is a dark elf who uses magic so he has a possible high chance of winning the whole deal....

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 10:44 AM

Actually, there's a chance that his stats have been redone. I know that Artemis has been redone as level 24.

I got an epic lvl handbook, neither Drizzt nor Artemis are epic lvl (20+).

Drizzt is 16, Artemis 18 as far as I know, otherwise please show me some ss to see those 2 modified..if you have, that is.

Thanatos

12-01-2006, 10:51 AM

I'm afraid that all I'm going on is P&P version. I once bought a model blister pack, and it mentioned that Artemis was one of the models available, in both his regular and epic versions. I don't know where I got 24 from.

EvilMoogle

12-01-2006, 11:32 AM

Madara;6181582']EvilMoogle I dunno where you saw Drizzt having lvl 18 or 21 I'm sorry but that's not true, I posted his true stats of Forgotten Realms. He's lvl 16.
Your stats are the third edition stats.

Mine were his second edition stats. I've seen first edition stats somewhere too. His second edition stats were in the "Menzoberanzan" boxed set, I'm not sure I have it anymore but I'll check when I get home.

Not that it matters really, as his canon abilities are determined by the books ;)

[Uchiha]Madara

12-01-2006, 12:17 PM

Your stats are the third edition stats.

Mine were his second edition stats. I've seen first edition stats somewhere too. His second edition stats were in the "Menzoberanzan" boxed set, I'm not sure I have it anymore but I'll check when I get home.

Not that it matters really, as his canon abilities are determined by the books ;)

No, I got the stats from the book "Forgotten Realms, Campaign Setting" not from some 3rd edition.

And stats get modified with each edition of course (not necessarly), but the newest editions should be used, latest is 3.5 as far as I know so that means that previous versions shouldn't count, but okay...as you say...not that it matters.