Dexter (Dexters lab) VS. Shikamaru (Naruto)Whos smarter?

["Shion"]

This lost me...

[martryn]

Shikamaru, of course.

[*uzumaki-naruto*]

dexter has robots :P

[Blaze of Glory]

Dexter..Definitely, Dexter..I doubt Shikamaru can make a robot the size of a house.

[Giovanni Rild]

Dexter in a horrible blow-out

[Endless Mike]

This is stupid. Shikamaru is overrated as hell, how can he be smarter than a kid who invents time machines, giant robots, mind control devices, teleporters, etc.?

[~Shin~]

^QFT

Dexter just uses one of his robots and rapes shikamaru

[ezxx]

Dexter isn't your typical genius

he's your exaggerated to-the-100th genius

[Giovanni Rild]

^QFT

Dexter just uses one of his robots and rapes shikamaru

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/RaikouTheLightning/ppg_pages_9_and_10.jpg
Dexter Boy Genius PWNS!!!

[Endless Mike]

Older Dexter vs. Older Powerpuff Girls?

[Giovanni Rild]

Older Dexter vs. Older Powerpuff Girls?

http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/?&offset=120

Bleedman comics. He has massive crossovers with a lot of seriess

[Birkin]

Pff, this isn't even a match-up. Dexter started science at a day old. ;p Dexter takes this :> And I'm a big fan of his Norwegian voice actor which makes my day ;p

[Seany]

Dexter wins =O

[Azurite]

Dexter is pretty short, and young yet smart. Dexter wins in this.

[Birkin]

As for intelligence, it's 2 types of intelligence in the world and both possess one of them. Dexter possess "school smarts" which means he's a studier, which studies and finds answers that way. Shikamaru on the other hand has what we call "street smarts" which basically is the ability to adapt to any situation at hand, well not everything but alot of it.

[Endless Mike]

Except Dexter is good at combat too... he's fought off monsters and alien invasions.

[Suzumebachi]

Dexter has saved the future.

[Reznor]

"Smarter" is an overused term. Too often, especially here, building something seems to be whatever one looks for.

I'm opposed to using intelligence as a broad term, since it relies to much on which categories you value more.

I'd say Shikamaru is more clever. He doesn't know much, but he makes terrific usage of it. However, he is blown out of proportion a lot of times.

Dexter's accomplishments I think are more significant. He is more knowledgable and can apply his knowledge to far more categories.

Of course, if you are one of those people that judge intelligence by mistakes rather than accomplishments, you'll find plenty of defiencies with his abilities (though, I think that people that do that in real life are just pedantic assholes that aren't good at many things.... ahem...)

Look at the movie "Ego Trip". In the future, Dexter comes to become great at combat too. He applied his intelligence to that, and he succeded. Things that he didn't apply it to - like considering why the robots in the intro were careless like that - he didn't comprend and process well.

He's basically the paragon of the absent minded professor stereotype.

Shikamaru is just clever and resourceful. He applies himself to far fewer things. However, even things that he does apply himself to, like strategy, he does fall short at alot (or at least not enough to overcome superior abilites that his opponents have)

Shikamaru's feats are just more impressive because it's harder for us to think of his plans (use that hole to extend the shadow....) then to think of Dexter's plans (build a time machine!!!1!)

[Piekage]

Agreed with above.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/RaikouTheLightning/ppg_pages_9_and_10.jpg
Dexter Boy Genius PWNS!!!

Bleedman ftw!

[Endless Mike]

Shikamaru's feats are just more impressive because it's harder for us to think of his plans (use that hole to extend the shadow....) then to think of Dexter's plans (build a time machine!!!1!)

Yes, because we all know it's easier to understand how a time machine works than putting a shadow through a hole....:notrust

[Reznor]

Yes, because we all know it's easier to understand how a time machine works than putting a shadow through a hole....:notrustMy god, I really want to remove that notrust emoticon now. =\

Did you read my post in context or just pick that out?
Shikamaru is just clever and resourceful. He applies himself to far fewer things. However, even things that he does apply himself to, like strategy, he does fall short at alot (or at least not enough to overcome superior abilites that his opponents have)

I said that the only merit it had over Dexter's was that it's harder to think of a real plan for the character than to think "He builds a time machine." Yes, it's harder to build a time machine.

Let me put it this way:
Building a time machine > thinking of a plan in combat > writing aa character thinking of a good plan in combat (and it's explained) > writing a character thinking of a time machine.
Shikamaru's feats are just more impressive because it's harder for us to think of his plans "Just more impressive" doesn't mean that they are more impressive, but that they have just this one edge of them. And impressive is a measure of how much it impresses.

[Endless Mike]

Yet in - universe, Dexter is much smarter, as the things he does require much greater intelligence.

[Vicious]

jimmy neutron beats them both.

[Giovanni Rild]

He does have a dodgeball mech in his backpack.


jimmy neutron beats them both.

What you smoking? Jimmy builds crap that look like toys and backfire all the time

[Reznor]

Yet in - universe, Dexter is much smarter, as the things he does require much greater intelligence. My post agrees with you.

I think you are just misunderstanding the last paragraph.
I'm not saying that he's smarter because of that I'm saying that those feat impress people better for those reasons.

[Vynjira]

Yes, because we all know it's easier to understand how a time machine works than putting a shadow through a hole....:notrust

Yes but, Dexter - Dexter is the big guy here to spite his short size. Dexter's IQ is enough to rival his role model, Albert Einstein.
SOURCE (http://www.tv.com/dexters-laboratory/show/753/summary.html?full_summary=1)

I've scanned several sites The average states Einstein's IQ was just over 160, More official sources like wiki and Accurate IQ tests say he was around 130. So benifit of the doubt Dexter would have no more than an IQ of 170. Shikimaru is at 200.

All that means Shikimaru has a greater potential. He is also OVERALL more intelligent. If you don't understand much about IQs a quick breakdown is your graded on a variety of subjects they take the average and theres your IQ. More involved yes but, if Dexter is close to 160 and its the average out of the other areas its very reasonable that Dexter prolly scored 230 or more in certain areas and less in other areas. Which could very well account for why Shikimaru can't build robots yet maintains a higher IQ because he scored around a 200 on everything.

EDIT: So in conclusion, I garuntee you Shikimaru prolly scored alot higher in his calculation speeds and his tactical acuity(sp) as well as other more combat relatable sections whereas Dexter prolly scored REALLY high on the more math and science portions.

I do personally think Dexter is a real fuckin Genious however the success rate of his schemes is alot lower than Shikimaru.

[Endless Mike]

Shikamaru has not done a single thing to show he is even one millionth as smart as Dexter.

[Geese]

Good lord, Dexter is on Mr. Fantasic's level. Shikamaru isn't anywhere near him mentally.

[Vynjira]

Good lord, Dexter is on Mr. Fantasic's level. Shikamaru isn't anywhere near him mentally.

The fact that there was an Episode where Dexter took an IQ test and found out he was only average and he was gonna shut down his lab forever kinda dispoves that he is anywhere near Mr. Fantastic's level... Again with the out of the ball park comparisons..

I doubt Mr. Fantastic is even calcuable by an IQ test.

[Endless Mike]

What you forgot to mention was that the test result was a mistake, he actually was a genius.

[Vynjira]

What you forgot to mention was that the test result was a mistake, he actually was a genius.

Yea, which is what I stated in my first post. His IQ is supposedly rivaling Einstein's at 160ish so its safe to say its not 170. Shikimaru is STATED at 200.

My point on the last one is that if his IQ were higher than Reed's than chances are it would show up higher than 300. It's easier to mistake a 160 than a 300. I mean if someone had an IQ of 300 the Mistake wouldn't have been passed off like nothing.

[Kazuma the Shell Bullet]

The fact that there was an Episode where Dexter took an IQ test and found out he was only average and he was gonna shut down his lab forever kinda dispoves that he is anywhere near Mr. Fantastic's level... Again with the out of the ball park comparisons..

I doubt Mr. Fantastic is even calcuable by an IQ test.

The "average" IQ score was a mistake as revealed at the end of the episode. Id say Dex pwns Shika.

Mr. Fantastic is the smartest

[Vynjira]

My whole point was Mr. Fantastic is LEAGUES above Dexter.

Also that Shikimaru is stated as having a higher IQ than Dexter is. Dexter obviously has more knowledge about science where Shikimaru is a combat tactitian and a Lazy one at that.

Read what the test calculates and see if you can figure out how someone with a higher IQ may be more intelligent but NOT able to build advanced technology.
General IQ Score

Your General IQ Score of 126 shows how able your mind is in general. Anyone with a General IQ Score this high is considered to be of above average intelligence. This score is better than 95.85% of all persons taking this test. Most occupations can be comprehended with a General IQ this high. You should be able to handle almost all academic challenges.

You scored higher than your General IQ Score in 6 individual ability categories. 3 of these better scores could be called statistically significant and may indicate special abilities, or that you were distracted on those parts of the IQ Test that counted more heavily in the other ability categories.
Arithmetic

Solving many of the IQ Test's problems required the ability to add, subtract, multiply, and divide numbers mentally. Many mental tasks require arithmetical operations even though numbers may not be involved, and thus number manipulation abilities can strongly indicate general intelligence.

Your Arithmetic IQ score of 133 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 98.61% of all persons taking this test.
Spatial Skill

Understanding what changes will occur when conditions vary is a deep and powerful ability of the mind. All invention and creativity of every sort is based upon this ability. Although test problems usually involve manipulation of objects in space, persons with a stronger ability to spatially manipulate can also be expected to use this ability to be able to better predict how social and psychological situations would change due to variation.

Your Spatial Skill IQ score of 122 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 92.88% of all persons taking this test.
Logical

This is the ability to determine if a set of rules has been correctly followed. This ability is most useful in combination with other mental skills listed above. Those with strong logical ability are quicker to see where a given set of conditions is going to lead, have a strong sense of justice, and better understand--from an intellectual analysis--the benefits of harmony.

Your Logical IQ score of 129 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 97.34% of all persons taking this test.
Spelling

The ability to spell can indicate general intelligence. Remembering a set sequence of letters indicates the mind's ability to retrieve remembered facts. Learning how to spell and use the words of a language is almost a complete IQ test in itself. Although poor spellers with high IQ scores can be found, it is rare, and in general--everything else being equal--the better spellers have higher IQ scores.

Your Spelling IQ score of 146 is exceptionally higher than your General IQ score.This score is better than 99.89% of all persons taking this test.
Short Term Memory

The ability to remember things for a short period of time allows the mind to check back and retrieve facts needed to complete a problem solving operation. This ability becomes more critical when problems have many aspects that need consideration and/or need to be solved mentally. This ability strongly determines how efficiently one handles the many aspects of normal life. If your short term memory ability is strong you are much less likely to seem inattentive or "slow to get it" to others.

Your Short Term Memory IQ score of 126 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 95.85% of all persons taking this test.
Rote Utilization

This is the ability to take a set of memorized facts and mentally extract and/or operate with or upon the facts within the set that are pertinent to the problem at hand. Persons with more of this ability can be expected to spell well, remember telephone and other numbers easily, be more adroit in procedural operations, and have a stronger foundation for tasks that require the use of memorized material.

Your Rote Utilization IQ score of 139 is exceptionally higher than your General IQ score.This score is better than 99.53% of all persons taking this test.
Algebraic

This is the ability of the mind to abstractly handle quantities and qualities. Persons who are strong in this ability can more quickly and more deeply understand analogies, stories, derivations, equalities, and hierarchical structures.

Your Algebraic IQ score of 142 is exceptionally higher than your General IQ score.This score is better than 99.74% of all persons taking this test.
General Knowledge

Knowledge that is casually picked up and remembered can indicate intelligence, because persons with higher intelligence will exhibit greater retention of those pieces of information that are encountered less often. Because higher intelligence allows a person to have a deeper appreciation of the connectivity of facts that may seem disparate to others of lesser intelligence, memory of such facts becomes easier.

Your General Knowledge IQ score of 134 is exceptionally higher than your General IQ score.This score is better than 98.83% of all persons taking this test.
Visual Apprehension

This is the ability of the mind to mentally picture visual information and to be able to extract portions of that information for separate use. A person whose visual apprehension is strong enjoys a richer, more creative appreciation of visual aspects of experiences.

Your Visual Apprehension IQ score of 124 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 94.52% of all persons taking this test.
Geometric

How well one can comprehend geometric relationships of lines, sides, planes, angles, and topological properties strongly determines one's ability to make sense of visual information. The strength of one's geometric ability can strongly determine how quickly knowledge can be absorbed if it is presented visually.

Your Geometric IQ score of 116 is significantly lower than your General IQ score.This score is better than 85.69% of all persons taking this test.
Vocabulary

Knowing the meaning of words is an ability that directly increases along with the increase of general intelligence. The meaning of a word is more easily remembered with higher intelligence, because it takes more intelligence to understand and correctly use words based upon the subtle differences between words with similar meanings and to comprehend difficult concepts which are sometimes symbolized by a single word.

Your Vocabulary IQ score of 124 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 94.52% of all persons taking this test.
Intuition

Intuition is defined as that ability of the mind to develop answers to questions without consciously dealing with the problem at hand. Often a question will provoke your mind to answer without using conscious processing time, and the answer is said to come "out of the blue" or "suddenly, it just struck me". Of all the many abilities of the mind, this is one of the most often used. Just knowing what to do is often an automatic process that occurs without much conscious figuring. Those with stronger intuition make less mistakes and can seem luckier, wiser, or more mature.

Your Intuition IQ score of 124 is not significantly different from your General IQ score.This score is better than 94.52% of all persons taking this test.
Computational Speed

If you can correctly solve a variety of problems faster than another person, you may be demonstrating a generally more orderly internal arrangement of your mind's problem solving methods. While speed cannot be the sole factor in determining overall superiority in one mental operations, in general faster computational speed will often indicate that a problem's comprehension was more complete. With everything else being equal, a person with faster computational speed than another person's will be better at tasks that require the synthesis of many bits of information.

Your Computational Speed IQ score of 80 is significantly lower than your General IQ score.This score is better than 9.12% of all persons taking this test.

40 - 54 Severely challenged (Less than 1% of test takers)
55 - 69 Challenged (2.3% of test takers)
70 - 84 Below average
85 - 114 Average (68% of test takers)
115 - 129 Above average
130 - 144 Gifted (2.3% of test takers)
145 - 159 Genius (Less than 1% of test takers)
160 - 175 Extraordinary genius

This is the only thing I can think of to explain what I'm trying to say.

Clarify my stance, Dexter isn't remotely close to Mr. Fantastic in Brains. Shikimaru is a faster puzzle solver and most likely a superior taction as well as he prolly scored higher on Visual apprehension and Intuition as well as Rote Utilization. Hopefully this explains what I mean.

[Halcyon Days]

shikamaru, his time period seems way behind dexter....but put him in dexter's time he outclasses him easily

[Endless Mike]

Are you kidding me?

Dexter lives in contemporary times, but he invents technology way beyond anything in real life.

[Limit_Tester]

Dexter's Lab is a show targeted at 7 year olds. That's all I really have to say about this.

[Giovanni Rild]

Dexter's Lab is a show targeted at 7 year olds. That's all I really have to say about this.

And it kicked ass

[Endless Mike]

Dexter's Lab is a show targeted at 7 year olds. That's all I really have to say about this.

And that's worse than a show targeted at 12 - year - olds?

[Heartgobbler]

If we measure intelligence, Shikamaru is the clear winner.

Dexter may be a genius inventor but he is still mentally a kid. His ability to apply his "genius" to everyday problems is terribly lacking.

[Bubbles]

Lol, how funny

well Dextor can make robots and doomsday devices and at the same time only come up to Shika's ankle.

My answer is still who knows though.

["Shion"]

If we measure intelligence, Shikamaru is the clear winner.

Dexter may be a genius inventor but he is still mentally a kid. His ability to apply his "genius" to everyday problems is terribly lacking.

Well, let's see...

In one episode, Deter actually went to college.

And he is, what, 10 or 11 years old?

Shikamaru barely made it past the Chuunin exams...

[Piekage]

College and the Chunin exam are completely different. Colleges test your intellegence, the Exams test you ability as a ninja.

[Reznor]

IQ tests are flawed as hell. Let's avoid the usage of them.

Hmm.... actually, I think this thread is kind of pointless, since it requires treating something semi-subjective as being objective.

(Unlike something like strength, intelligence is much more subjective since it requires an evaluation by the observer what he values more. For any 24 fans, it's like asking wheter Jack Bauer or Chloe is smarter.)

["Shion"]

We never said anything about IQ tests....^^^

[Reznor]

We never said anything about IQ tests....^^^
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