Which is closer to the real thing? Naruto ninjas, or One Piece pirates

[Aethos]

Naruto ninja's don't even rely on stealth. They just appear instantly to their enemy and pelt them with jutsu.

Also when was the last time manga wise that we've ever seen Naruto ninja do assassination missions much less escort missions? The Zabuza arc?

EDIT: and why the heck is my response on the first page? Much less at the top of the first page? o.O

[Metalvirus]

First off, sorry if this has been done before. My search doesnt work.

So, pirates and ninjas both existed. And these two mangas decided to base the whole series on them. However, it is VERY loosely based, and are not much like the real life counterparts at all. Which do you think is more like the real life people? Naruto's ninjas, or One Piece's pirates.

One Piece exaggerates pirates to the max, but it is still close to real pirates. They party and get drunk. They sail to unexplored islands. Most of them use cutlasses and guns. A pirate crew consists of all the necessary parts, and the ships are very much like they should be. Pirates are wanted men, and are chased by marines/navy to be executed. Towns let pirates in, and do not care as long as they dont do anything. Most pirates are generally ruthless, and there are privateers (Shikibukai). But, OP pirates stray from the real ones a lot as well. For instance, captains do not have to be the strongest man in the crew. Most real pirates were pirates just because they were failed sailors, and pirates were looked very down upon. They do not care as much about their men as they do in OP, and more.

Naruto's ninjas are a bit diff. than normal ninjas. Ninjas were supposed to have almost NO personality, very serious, and deadly. There is NO ninja who would were an orange jumpsuit, crossdress, yell and scream a lot, and have a crush on a teammate. Also, ninjas do not fight the way they do in Naruto. They do not yell out attack names, as they do dramatic spells that are super flashy. They would simply sneak up, and slice the neck of the opponent. Zabuza is the closest to a ninja, save for his HUUUGE sword. But, the clans, the missions, and the ranks are all realistic.

I myself will say One Piece. What do you say?

[Suzumebachi]

Ninjas were supposed to have almost NO personality, very serious, and deadly.

Kishimoto made a point of letting us know that he was going to break that mold in the Zabuza arc.

One Piece is more acurate, in that a bunch of characters are actually based of actual pirates, pirates steal and pirate, get drunk, and others.

Kishimoto is just putting his own take on actual legends, i.e. the Kusanagi legend, the Bijuu, etc.

[Toffeeman]

lol, the whole premise of One Piece is a large group of pirate crews searching for a treasure.

I think it's safe to say which is more true to form..

[Suzumebachi]

LOL at whoever negged me for this.

[Louis-954]

Well Imo, Naruto Ninjas are more accurate. One Piece is my favorite in Manga and all and alot of em are based off of once real life pirates but...... traveling to and island in the sky and eating devil fruits that give you strange powers kind of make it stray away from real piracy. Dont get me wrong though, i love one piece just how it is and wouldnt change a thing.

[Suzumebachi]

Well Imo, Naruto Ninjas are more accurate.

The ninja in orange jumpsuits takes the accuracy down to -3.

[Galt]

Tough to say. Both tend to deviate obscenely, in that the world of Naruto allows for loudmouthed dumbasses who wear ORANGE in the middle of a freaking forest to become ninjas, and that One Piece has somehow managed to forget that pirates are not simply adventure-lovers but also murderers and rapists...granted, the goals of both are still the same, for the ninjas, getting hired out for military purposes, for the pirates, wealth and glory. I'd say Naruto probably has a slightly closer interpretation of what real ninjas were supposed to be like, although the argument can be easily made for either One Piece or Naruto, just because both are so far off.

To anyone who didn't immediately get the point: this isn't about story elements like specifically realistic physics and various special abilities, it's more about the way the characters behave within their profession. Please remember that . :wink

[Suzumebachi]

One Piece has somehow managed to forget that pirates are not simply adventure-lovers but also murderers and rapists...granted, the goals of both are still the same

Kuro, Krieg, Wapol, Arlong, Bellamy, Roshio, etc.

[King Bookah]

I'd say they are roughly even in the accuracy department. But that's just me.

[HugeGuy]

If you look at their jobs, then I say Naruto ninjas are more acccurate. At least they still have assasination missions and such.

OP pirates(especially Strawhats) apart from searching the treasure One Piece, aren't a lot like real pirates. Going from one island to the next saving people and their countries is not a pirate's job.

[NecroAngel]

They both differ so much that they simply are different things. But regardless, I'd say One Piece differs more.

I'm sure blackbeard had PLENTY of friends that just happened to be reindeers with pink top hats... yeah.

[HugeGuy]

They both differ so much that they simply are different things. But regardless, I'd say One Piece differs more.

I'm sure blackbeard had PLENTY of friends that just happened to be reindeers with pink top hats... yeah.

Blackbeard? I think you mean the Strawhats.

[Trov]

I say One Piece is more accurate. While it's true that alot of Pirates are bad. Not all pirates were murderers and rapists. There were people who liked to call themselves pirates and just go out on actual adventures and at most just steal stuff. Alot of the villians in One Piece are pirates themselves(Aside from the CP9 and Enel's group) Croc was pretty much willing to kill off over 10,000 men in a farce so he can take over a country. Kuro wanted to kill Kaya to inherit her riches, Arlong... well, he was a racist and killed Bellemarie without hesitation.

Naruto, well, It has the basic premise, but everything seems to have been changed. It's still a fun anime to watch, but not as close to the real thing as One Piece does it.

[Aethos]

Heck the only thing ninja about Naruto is that they use Shuriken and kunai. All they need is ki blasts and they'll be a true watered down version of DBZ...

Oh wait I forgot they already had that (Rasengan, Chidori)

[Jh1stgen]

Definitly one piece ...

[Mr. Toon]

One Piece

[~Shin~]

Naruto ninjas act as samurais more than ninjas. One piece easily

[Allah]

Pirates, without a doubt. Jeez since when could Ninja's summon giant frogs?

[jplaya2023]

Naruto nins are more closely related to the real thing than one piece pirates. OP pirates just eat devil fruit and search for some lost treasure while encountering challenges along the course.

Naruto nins carry out missions, protect the village, continue to get stronger physically, spiritually, shinobi like storyline, massive death, dramatic fight scenes, emotion, sadness, remorse etc.. etc..

[Galt]

Well, the fact is that shinobi are not supposed to be the primary military force of a nation, nor are they meant to stand out so much. Plus in Naruto you never even hear tell of feats like those of real shinobi, who planned for years for a single mission, settling the area around the target and spreading their own legends, until in a single night, they completed the mission flawlessly, and unseen. Naruto shinobi in terms of stealth and behavior are very much affected by the shounen genre. They've got the whole samurai thing thrown in there, and frankly, wearing the village identification on their forehead or sleeve really doesn't help them in terms of typical shinobi sneakiness. Shinobi were mercenaries, as pure mercenaries as you could get. If Naruto wanted points for realism, Tazuna wouldn't have lasted 2 minutes after Kakashi realized it wasn't a C-class mission.

One Piece, however, suffers from realism problems simply because the massive numbers of pirates makes it easily possible for a group to declare themselves pirates in the name of adventure, and then make a living by primarily preying off other pirates and such. I don't recall yet that we've seen anything close to the typical "raid the ship, kill the men, rape the pretties, offer the slaves a chance to join up, burn the ship, go on our merry way." Granted we've seen some really nasty pirates, but most of them tend to just go around and have adventures, drinking rum and whatnot, because their world is tailor-made for being able to be a nice pirate. Pirates are so central to the society of the Grand Line that they've essentially established a nation of pirates that the WG occasionally attempts to disrupt when they've got the manpower.

That said, I still think Naruto's that much closer just because in general, shinobi still fulfill something close to their usual function in society, whereas in One Piece, you can be a pirate and just kind of sail around and have a jolly good time. However, I still gotta commend Oda for the privateer analogy of the Shichibukai. :P

[ezxx]

naruto's a lot more closer to the real thing

even if OP's main premise is finding treasure, it's still behind naruto in being closer to the real thing

[rocklee0036]

Considering that pirates defintely existed in some point in history, OP is closer to reality. There is no definitive record of "ninja", at least none that would parallel that of Naruto. What we think of when we hear the word ninja, is predominately a fabricated image produced by western society. The notion of real ninja is still shrouded in mystery, although we can assume it is somewhat based on real fact.

In terms of actual content of the two manga, they are both equally ridiculous in comparison to reality. Talking animals, feats that defy physics and logic, immortality, rubber men (luufy), five year olds being physically capable of enduring life as a shinobi (kakashi).

[Khamzul]

I think Naruto is closer to the real thing, whatever that might be. Just look at strawhats - when was the last time they robbed an innocent ship full of nobels?

For the record, I think the start of Hidan vs Asuma was one of the most "ninja'ish" chapters of part 2.

[Code]

I think Naruto is closer to the real thing, whatever that might be. Just look at strawhats - when was the last time they robbed an innocent ship full of nobels?

For the record, I think the start of Hidan vs Asuma was one of the most "ninja'ish" chapters of part 2.
It'd be best to go by how the average pirate in One Piece acts, as opposed to just one group. The last time they did that would be Skypiea though. You could turn around and say "Look at Naruto" in terms of being 'ninja-ish.' Though I don't know enough about "historical" ninjas to judge.

[Aethos]

It'd be best to go by how the average pirate in One Piece acts, as opposed to just one group. The last time they did that would be Skypiea though. You could turn around and say "Look at Naruto" in terms of being 'ninja-ish.' Though I don't know enough about "historical" ninjas to judge.

Well for one thing REAL ninja's don't have giant flashy magic jutsu's that can destroy forests.

and please... massive death? Sure a few unimportant people died here and there but there isn't massive death like you'd see in Berserk or Hellsing for instance.

[omg laser pew pew!]

Naruto ninjas aren't even close to being real ninjas

Find me a ninja that does funny things with their hand and then shouts out their technique just as they execute it

[Ulio]

Truely one piece but the devil fruits make me wonder rubberman they become hammer in water? wierd but pirates really did exist and they have fleets , marines that are normal most of em.But Skypeia arc was soo not close to be real a sea of clouds a stream that blats u that high totally wack but i still love OP i am watching both but op more seens i am only at 153 and there is soo many more i might read manga later and i watch and read naruto aswell.Ninja's with ninjutsu lol and genjutsu lol in real life that would be crazY but i think Real ninja's didnt use Taijutsu either they used weapons and use to hide alot . Shinobi=Hide.

Ninja's in Naruto do real things that ninja's do like missions escorts assasination etc.But THEY CALL THEMSELVES SHINOBI which means to use the element of stealth i think anyone in a forest can find naruto he wears BRight orange with he shiny yellow hear and yells all the time and eats alot of ramen where does he get all he's energy i know he has the 9 tails but he has to much energy..But the others like the one wearing the jounin suits that are green are still ok.

Straw hat pirates are wannabe pirates i think they save people they need to raid places not save.Luffy looks like a monkey.Zoro looks like some swordsmen and a some kinda pirate.Nami looks nothing close to a pirate.Usoope is always afraid of everything . Chooper is a a little reindeer who belives anything Usoop says.lol but there both great animes i like em how they are complete Realalistic is boring so i like it the way it is there could be a few small changes.

[Kisame]

Just by sailing on a boat One piece are far closer to pirates than ANYTHING naruto has done to resemble a ninja..

[Powdered Toast Man]

pirates actually act like pirate in OP they rob people and do evil things.
Ninjas in naruto are nothing like ninjas theyre loud bright you know theyre there and you can hear them a mile away.