Strawhats Pirates vs Army of Mordor

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Frodo lasted many days from a stab by the fell blade

That is different from stabbing the Nazgul themselves

[HugeGuy]

The Strawhats as of the latest chapter.
vs
The army of Mordor during the siege on Minas Tirith.

Orcs, trolls, Uruk-hais, oliphaunts, wargs, the southern men, Nazguls are all included. Basically, anyone from Mordor who took part in the battle is allowed.


Below are the estimated strength of Mordor's army.
-200000 orcs and Uruk-hais.
-18000 Haradrims(Southern Men)
-A dozen or more oliphaunts(big big elephants)
-Several wargs(big big wolves)
-Seveal trolls
-Fall Beasts(or dragons)
-9 Nazguls


Battle takes place on the Pelennor Field. Let the battle begins.

[Scum]

mordor army ftw

[HugeGuy]

Well, any other opinions?

Supposedly, people believe Strawhats without Franky can take on Napoleon's army of 600,000.

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Straw hats won't stand a chance here.

[Suzumebachi]

The Strawhats as of the latest chapter.
vs
The army of Mordor during the siege on Minas Tirith.

Orcs, trolls, Uruk-hais, oliphaunts, wargs, the southern men, Nazguls are all included. Basically, anyone from Mordor who took part in the battle is allowed.


Below are the estimated strength of Mordor's army.
-200000 orcs and Uruk-hais.
-18000 Haradrims(Southern Men)
-A dozen or more oliphaunts(big big elephants)
-Several wargs(big big wolves)
-Seveal trolls
-Fall Beasts(or dragons)
-9 Nazguls


Battle takes place on the Pelennor Field. Let the battle begins.

You know the names..:cry

I love you.

[Pipboy]

Well it all depends on whether or not the other 8 Nazgul are suceptible to the same deal as the Sorceror King. Most of those guys are cannon fodder and cannot be realistically expected to deal with the straw hats in any other method that dying horribly.

Now they might tire them out to such a degree that they could no longer fight with any degree of effciency but outside the Dragons the Nazgul and whatever sorcery they bring to the table there is nothing really there that poses a significant threat.

[Weedy]

if they had unlimited stamina i could see the strawhats winning.........

but thats not the case so they lose

[HugeGuy]

Well it all depends on whether or not the other 8 Nazgul are suceptible to the same deal as the Sorceror King. Most of those guys are cannon fodder and cannot be realistically expected to deal with the straw hats in any other method that dying horribly.

Now they might tire them out to such a degree that they could no longer fight with any degree of effciency but outside the Dragons the Nazgul and whatever sorcery they bring to the table there is nothing really there that poses a significant threat.
The Nazgul are not to be taken lightly. They're nowhere near building destroying or punching a crater into the ground but they have poisonous breath, called Black Breath. Several people in Middle Earth have been poisoned just by encountering them. Their blades are also endowed with sorcery(look what happened to Frodo). Plus, riding on dragons makes them hard to catch.

Also they're supposed to be invisible since their mortal bodies have faded away. You can only see them when they're under those black coaks. The Witch King also seems to have powerful magic spells protecting him. The knife that Merry uses to stab the Witch King apparently has a history behind it.

And then there's the catapults, these would be deadly to the Strawhats except for Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. And the oliphaunt? Sure the Strawhats are used to dealing with Seakings but usually only one at a time. Surrounded by several oliphaunts from every directions is troublesome. And beneath those oliphaunts there might be wargs which are very agile. Then there's the trolls and also the archers.

if they had unlimited stamina i could see the strawhats winning.........

but thats not the case so they lose

No the Strawhats are not given unlimited stamina. That would be overkill wouldn't it?:amuse

[Khamzul]

As a Tolkien fan I will vote Army of Mordor here.

While most of these are cannonflodder for the Strawhats, they do have some that could prove a problem. And even canonflodder is deadly with enough numbers. Arrows could kill characters as Nami and Robin given enough numbers, and even though Orc's are not weak, they would tire out even Luffy, Sanji and Zoro before too long. And against the Witch King, Khamul and the other Nazguls the aura of fear, deadly breath and having the advantage of flying, they should be able to finish of the Strawhats after they have been tired out.

Still, it is dependent on the stamina (which should have a limit) of the strawhats and the power of the Nazguls sorcery. There are not many feats of battle related sorcery the Tolkien Legendarium. I think that the aura of fear and their deadly breath's could finish of the strawhats here. I could say that they all died from arrows or being unlucky with blades or spears, but I probably would be underestimating the skill of the strawhats.

So I eventually see the strawhat's going down in a storm of arrows and sorcery.

[Art of Run]

oliphaunts
Its mumakil. Mordor army FTW.

The archers pretty much wins this for them. The close combat orks will be distractions. If the trolls are troll cheiftens then there armour is gonna be hard to break. Now if the nazgul are mounted on fell beats then ussop is there only hope. The nazgul could use there scream thing and make the crew vulnerable
for a bit and by that time all of the archers would have showered them. If this is the battle of pelenor then catapults would be included aswell.

I would say mordor then again the crew are ot gonna stay still :S

[FireEel]

I am surprised you didn't include the Consairs(pirates that Aragorn's undead army took out). But anyway, Mordor takes this due to extreme overwhelming numbers.

[Captain Pimp]

Sanji, Sogeking, Nami, and Monster Chopper may be able to take out most of the orcs and haradrims. This leaves Luffy and Zoro (And possibly Franky? I dunno if he joined the Straw Hats) the harder ones.

The only threat I see are the Nazguls. Zoro can possibly take out at least 2 or 3 of them with his 108 Pound Cannon and Luffy would have a bit of trouble taking out at least 1. In the end, I can see the Mordor army winning, but not in a curbstomp.

[Toffeeman]

Fatigue would become the Strawhats downfall.

[Scum]

i thought men couldn't kill the nazguls

[Art of Run]

i thought men couldn't kill the nazguls

But women can :nuts

Na i think the witch king was boasting.

[Myoti]

Hrm... I'd say there's a slight chance the Strawhats could pull threw, but yes, overall fatigue would definetly be their biggest issue.

So then they just bring a whole lotta meat and keep feeding Luffy! =D

[Shinkirou]

Mordor, like everybody's said, strawhats would get tired and eventually die.

Though if they were all given unlimited stamina I think they could possibly take this.

[slugdude]

The forces of Mordor take this fight. The shear exhaustion from having to fight all the freakin' orcs could wear out even the strawhats. And when you add in trolls, oliphaunts, Nazgul and any other machines of pwnage Mordor has, then it's clear as day that the strawhats are screwed.

[FireEel]

But women can :nuts

Na i think the witch king was boasting.

NO ONE can kill the Nazguls.

If you read the book or watched the Extended versions, Merry received a "nice-shiny dagger" from Lady Galadriel. It is in fact an enchanted dagger with a long history - One of the few magical weapons which could break the Witch King's enchantment.

The Witch King upon being stabbed by the enchanted dagger, had his "invulnerability" spell broken, and was weakened.

In short the Nazguls would never die to the Strawhats.

[Art of Run]

Lol well mordor wins cause there are immortals on there team.

[Khamzul]

NO ONE can kill the Nazguls.

If you read the book or watched the Extended versions, Merry received a "nice-shiny dagger" from Lady Galadriel. It is in fact an enchanted dagger with a long history - One of the few magical weapons which could break the Witch King's enchantment.

While I agree with you main point, I would like to clearfy (being a nitpicker concerning Tolkien lore). Merry's sword came from a barrow on the Barrow-downs that may have been the grave of the last prince of Cardolan, who was killed in battle against the forces of Angmar in 1409.

But yes, the strawhats does not have any weapons neccesary to kill the Nazguls. But I personally think that the Army of mordor would win with sheer numbers here discerning the strawhats.

[Wesley]

Well wait aren't they supposed to be able to fight 600,000 marines? I thought the idea was that the Strawhats will be or already have taken on a large mass of troops.

[Locard]

With unlimited stamina , the strawhats would win easily.

Aragorn alone can kill like 3000 orcs in a row, and Zoro is like Aragorn x1000

Mordor forces cant do shit against base Luffy, nor to mention G2 or G3.

Nico can take down assloads of people with her DF powers.

Sanji is faster and stronger than any guy in Tolkiens novels.

but yeah, Luffy's crew would be overwhelmed eventually, too many enemies.

[Kinjishi]

Mordor wins out of sheer numbers. The Nazgul could probably do it alone, eventually.

Aragorn killing 3000 orcs in succession alone. I hope that was a joke. :notrust More like 60 tops. If you saw the movies, you'd see Legolas and Gimli killed about 40 uruk-hai each during the battle of the hornburg.

[Steven Pinhead]

Clarifying earlier statemaent, no revelvance to thread discussion:

Merry's blade in the book was a western sword which was enchanted to be poisonous to servants of morgoth. Since Sauron was once a servant of Morgoth,this blade would effect his armies. That's why it hurt the Witch King. However, it also melted away like an ice cube in the Nevada desert (trust me, I should know.) after he pulled it out.

Mordor Armies FTW.

To above poster: You said Hornburg not Helm's Deep. You are a good man.

[blacklusterseph004]

I was also under the impression that if you stabbed or struck a Nazgul, you would become cursed and die very shortly after. If I remember the books correctly, even though Eowyn killed the Witch King, she would have died rather soon without help.

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The last dragon was Smaug was was killed by Bard. Sauron had control on any flying creatures larger than those used as mounts by the Nazgul

So dragons are a no

I was also under the impression that if you stabbed or struck a Nazgul, you would become cursed and die very shortly after. If I remember the books correctly, even though Eowyn killed the Witch King, she would have died rather soon without help.

Ummm what book are you reading? Did you forget it was at least a day before Eowyn (and Merry) was tended to by Aragorn and they were very much alive?

[blacklusterseph004]

Ummm what book are you reading? Did you forget it was at least a day before Eowyn (and Merry) was tended to by Aragorn and they were very much alive?I think it was stated in FOTR already, that a blade used to cut down a nazgul is destroyed and a poison like curse spreads through your body killing you eventually similar to what happens to when you are stabbed by a nazgul blade.

In the films they only showed it as merry and Eowyn recoiling and clutching their arms after stabbing the Witch King. They would have eventually died from that curse if they hadn't been treated.

[Steven Pinhead]

In the book there was something called the black sickness that occured if you fought a Nazgul or if you fought a very large mMordor army. It could have very well killed Faramir, Eowyn, and Merry if not for Aragorn.
However, it was more like a poison, a sort of depression. It would kill you through despair, but you wouldn't become a Nazgul.

[FireEel]

Bah, just throw in some King's Foil and all will be well.

Though it's a matter of whether they possess the same kind of healing abilities as Aragorn.