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alchemical_ninja
11-20-2006, 03:33 PM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost. anyone else feel that way? coz now i am pissed at Naruto. in fact,right now,i hate him.

Allah
11-20-2006, 03:42 PM
Ha, no way, Neji needed to be taken down a peg or two. Naruto was just the one to do it.

leafvillagesecret
11-20-2006, 03:44 PM
das wut he gets for thinkin he wus tough n underestimatin naruto...he got beat by da town idiot lol

Finvarra
11-20-2006, 03:51 PM
Neji need to get beat, it was the only way he would get over himself and learn to become a better person.

JessieB
11-20-2006, 03:56 PM
Ha, no way, Neji needed to be taken down a peg or two. Naruto was just the one to do it.

exactly my thoughts. neji was kinda of a jerk until the final exam :/ but for some reason, even more so in the english version, i think

NaruHeart
11-20-2006, 04:40 PM
all i can say it GO NARUTO WOOT WOOT! Neji needed to be put down for once, hopefully he will realize he was wrong *cough* He was acting like an asstard

KazumaSakuraUchiha
11-20-2006, 05:46 PM
neji got what he deserved no doubt about it, and naruto being thr main character was the one to kick the crap out of him!!

Purgatory
11-20-2006, 08:11 PM
Overall, I really think Neji should've won. But the fact of the matter is that

No spoiling ~HN

Naruto only has gotten lucky with recent fights and using the Kyuubi chakra just really seems unfair. Pitting someone who has the ability to take unlimited amounts of chakra even if their Tenketsu is closed vs someone who has not even near the amount of chakra yet can close up chakra points and has shown to be top Gennin. It really is a "H4XX0rZ" for Naruto.

competitionbros
11-20-2006, 08:13 PM
i was extremely pissed at this outcome as i have stated in the Episodes Discussion thread, and i really do believe that ref was biased

martryn
11-20-2006, 08:17 PM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost. anyone else feel that way? coz now i am pissed at Naruto. in fact,right now,i hate him.

Agreed. And he won in such a cheap manner. But, such is Naruto, and you can't blame him for it. I still think Neji is stronger than Naruto, Naruto just lucked out as being almost the perfect match against him. Shows that strength in Naruto isn't a solid quantity you can measure.

Fendraki
11-20-2006, 08:17 PM
I agree that Neji is the stronger opponent, but his arrogance was his main downfall. I used to think that he should have won, but by him losing it gives him so much more character development than by him winning.

Hinata sama
11-20-2006, 08:23 PM
Ha, no way, Neji needed to be taken down a peg or two. Naruto was just the one to do it.

I agree! Neji is one of my fav characters, even i think he needed to change.

Fonster Mox
11-20-2006, 08:24 PM
You guys do know this is Naruto's show right? Do any of you even like him? :p

DeathRose
11-20-2006, 08:24 PM
neji deserved it, he is a friggin emo little kid..........
im so glad naruto won. he totally ended neji
and plus naruto is way stronger, he can summon gamabunta!!!!!!!
(not when he wants, but he still can!!!!!!)
and i totally agree with Fendraki, neji's damn arrogance

competitionbros
11-20-2006, 08:25 PM
neji deserved it, he is a friggin emo little kid..........
im so glad naruto won. he totally ended neji
and plus naruto is way stronger, he can summon gamabunta!!!!!!!
(not when he wants, but he still can!!!!!!)



LMAAAAAAO, Naruto stronger than Neji.............not in this life time

Fonster Mox
11-20-2006, 08:28 PM
^ dude, don't post spoilers here... even to win an argument.

Marguerite Perrin
11-20-2006, 08:29 PM
Neji was talking and got distracted and Naruto popped out of no were and kicked his ass!

competitionbros
11-20-2006, 08:30 PM
shut up man.......and naruto also learns rasengan!!!!
(and if you didnt know, its the second strongest jutsu)


and if he can't use Chakra because Neji plugs it up then he's stuck............he depends too much on he shadow clones(which didn't phase Neji in the least) and the fox chakra

DeathRose
11-20-2006, 08:30 PM
^ dude, don't post spoilers here... even to win an argument.

thats nice......idc
and i toatally agree with methwolf

DeathRose
11-20-2006, 08:33 PM
and if he can't use Chakra because Neji plugs it up then he's stuck............he depends too much on he shadow clones(which didn't phase Neji in the least) and the fox chakra


jeez.....u clearly know nothing

competitionbros
11-20-2006, 08:34 PM
smh, kicked Neji's ass? he hit him ONE TIME, and even then he shouldn't have been able to since he couldn't have know exactly where Neji was


jeez.....u clearly know nothing

care to explain?

Sean Bean
11-20-2006, 08:36 PM
It's a shame, because Neji was a better fighter, but he underestimated Naruto, these things happen in real fights.
Plus Naruto is the main character.

RaZzy
11-20-2006, 08:44 PM
Did you guys notice the error the english version made?
Naruto says: "my clones were pathetic.. that's right, i flunged(?) the shadow clone jutsu every time"

Anyway he shouldn't have said 'SHADOW clone jutsu' cuz he never learned that in his school.

Marguerite Perrin
11-20-2006, 08:45 PM
Did you guys notice the error the english version made?
Naruto says: "my clones were pathetic.. that's right, i flunged(?) the shadow clone jutsu every time"

Anyway he shouldn't have said 'SHADOW clone jutsu' cuz he never learned that in his school.

Nice find! I never thought about that.....

competitionbros
11-20-2006, 08:46 PM
It's a shame, because Neji was a better fighter, but he underestimated Naruto, these things happen in real fights.
Plus Naruto is the main character.


yep, underestimated coupled witht he fact he's the main character AND Neji had to lost to make him likeable and further develop his character

Fonster Mox
11-20-2006, 09:01 PM
Did you guys notice the error the english version made?
Naruto says: "my clones were pathetic.. that's right, i flunged(?) the shadow clone jutsu every time"

Anyway he shouldn't have said 'SHADOW clone jutsu' cuz he never learned that in his school.

They screw up a lot in the dub. The most obvious to me is when Naruto says "that's the way of the ninja" instead of "that's my way of the ninja". His point is supposed to be that he doesn't agree that Ninja should be tools, and decided his own way. (That wasn't in this episode, he got it right here)

But yeah, he was supposed to point out that he was bad at bunshin no jutsu but excels at kagebunshin no jutsu - they messed up. Another thing I dislike about the dub :notrust

DeathRose
11-20-2006, 09:09 PM
Did you guys notice the error the english version made?
Naruto says: "my clones were pathetic.. that's right, i flunged(?) the shadow clone jutsu every time"

Anyway he shouldn't have said 'SHADOW clone jutsu' cuz he never learned that in his school.

Way To go, that was smart of you. im not the type of person to notice crud like that

Purgatory
11-20-2006, 10:17 PM
You guys do know this is Naruto's show right? Do any of you even like him? :p

Not even one bit. I'm all in for the more calm, yet asshole-ish types. That's why I'm such a Neji fanboy

starblade876
11-21-2006, 12:30 AM
He lost because he underestimated his opponent. He deserved to lose for that. It's better that he lost in a fight where there's referee who'll stop it than finding out how dangerous his thinking can be in a fight on a mission or something.

Shinkirou
11-21-2006, 01:16 AM
Honestly, Neji only lost for the sake of plot. If it were an even match like the fight between Temari and Tenten where it didn't really matter who won, then Naruto obviously would have lost.

Not even one bit. I'm all in for the more calm, yet asshole-ish types. That's why I'm such a Neji fanboy

Same, Naruto's a little to 'happy-go-lucky' for my tastes.

Though i'm starting to like him more in the manga since hes trying not to constantly rely on the Kyuubi anymore.

Repstorm
11-21-2006, 01:52 AM
Yep, the dub screwed up a couple of times in those episodes. Naruto's speech to Neji after he was beaten immediately stuck out as being badly misworded.

People that think Naruto shouldn't have won need to get over it. Taking Kyuubi from Naruto is the same as taking Neji's Byakugan away. Anyway, had
Naruto summoned Gamabunta Neji would have been screwed anyway. There is nothing Neji could do against boss frog.

Dub watchers shall soon see what Naruto is capable of as they see him pawn in the future.

MiNaC
11-21-2006, 02:35 AM
Neji deserved what he got. :amuse

This fight was a big disappointment. It was a lot better the first time around, and in Japanese. :-(

That's ok, though. It's bound to get much, much better within the next 10 episodes. :grin

JeffStudios
11-21-2006, 07:09 PM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost

I believe it.

anyway neji needed to get his ass kicked to show him whose bose.
and because of this neji isnt so much of a jerk to everyone.

Shinobi_God
11-21-2006, 07:18 PM
Nejis a women beater he deserved it

Dirk Diggler
11-21-2006, 07:29 PM
Naruto WON, get over it, and it wasn’t a fluky win either, he showed excellent use of the kage bunshin no jutsu.

Panic Attack
11-21-2006, 07:39 PM
Naruto deserved to win and neji deserved to lose.

kYdizzle
11-21-2006, 07:57 PM
Naruto whooped Neji stop complaining. Neji needed to stop acting like he has a stick up his ass. the main theme of the fight was to never give up and to only think about victory, no matter how beaten you are. Plus Naruto was using all of his assets, his kage bunshin and the kyuubi's charka, just as Neji was using his Byakugan.

personally i was happy that naruto won, it showed that he believes in himself when everyone in the stadium thought he would lose.

Shinkirou
11-21-2006, 07:59 PM
The thing is the fight shouldn't have been over then. I mean Naruto only really got 1 solid hit in, and that hit was an uppercut that had some of the force blocked by the ground he went through. It shouldn't have had enough force to make it to where Neji couldn't fight anymore especially seeing as how it didn't really hit somewhere vital.

kYdizzle
11-21-2006, 08:03 PM
The thing is the fight shouldn't have been over then. I mean Naruto only really got 1 solid hit in, and that hit was an uppercut that had some of the force blocked by the ground he went through. It shouldn't have had enough force to make it to where Neji couldn't fight anymore especially seeing as how it didn't really hit somewhere vital.


yeah and the frontal charge naruto did with the Kyuubi's chakra... that was my imagination right?
Neji may have been spinning it, but it still took a lot out of him

Shinkirou
11-21-2006, 08:17 PM
I did say solid hit, Neji blocked/repeled most of it and I dont even see how they ended up in small craters from clashing kunai but w/e. Naruto should have taken a LOT more from it than Neji, plus everything else he got hit with should have put him down long before that.

competitionbros
11-21-2006, 08:18 PM
lmaaaaaaao, i got neg repped for saying Neji should've won

kYdizzle
11-21-2006, 08:21 PM
well, i am not going to go through describing the basics of chakra to you, but the hit blew them both back

Shinkirou
11-21-2006, 08:26 PM
I know the basics, no need for you to explain it but shouldn't it have just knocked them back? or atleast made a skid mark in the ground? It shouldn't be like a perfect crater, but i'll just toss this as being poorly thought out. Though either way like I said, if it was on an even playing field with neither having the advantage of plot, neji would have won, especially with all the internal damage that his 64 palms should have done.

lighting egde
11-21-2006, 08:36 PM
without the kyuubi's chakara naruto would have lost and if neji didn't go up to naruto when they both went flying away at the end of teh fight and naruto punching him in the chin neji might have won

starblade876
11-21-2006, 11:03 PM
I know the basics, no need for you to explain it but shouldn't it have just knocked them back? or atleast made a skid mark in the ground? It shouldn't be like a perfect crater, but i'll just toss this as being poorly thought out. Though either way like I said, if it was on an even playing field with neither having the advantage of plot, neji would have won, especially with all the internal damage that his 64 palms should have done.
It wasn't just kunai that clashed, nor was it just some humdrum chakra. It was stadium-shaking, ground-breaking chakra. That much force isn't going to just knock them back a little.

If it were a level playing field, Neji wouldn't have had the Byakugan and, thus, wouldn't have learned Jūken and, thus, wouldn't have learned Hakkeshō Kaiten or Hakke Rokujūyon Shō and, thus, wouldn't have done any damage to Naruto's internal organs or been able to block Naruto's surprise attacks or hit 64 of Naruto's tenketsu. It would come down to who doesn't give up, which is pretty much what it came down to.

The reason why Genma gave Naruto the win was because Neji gave up. Yes, Naruto fell and was on the ground longer, but he didn't give up and he got back up. Neji fell and tried to get up, but he couldn't.

Neji was cocky and paid for it. Naruto doesn't give up easily.

Almaseti
11-21-2006, 11:22 PM
The way I saw it, the ref was about to call the fight in Neji's favor a couple times, but Neji actually interrupted him to lecture Naruto. That kind of stupidity deserves an ass kicking.

kakashifan777
11-21-2006, 11:24 PM
if it wasnt for naruto's deamon then neji would've won

Speedycat
11-21-2006, 11:28 PM
if it wasnt for naruto's deamon then neji would've won
That's basically it. Naruto demon is conveniently hidden away until the plot requires him to win a fight. It's called plot no jutsu, and it happens a whole lot throughout the series.

Krzr
11-21-2006, 11:29 PM
Overall, I really think Neji should've won. But the fact of the matter is that

No spoiling ~HN

Naruto only has gotten lucky with recent fights and using the Kyuubi chakra just really seems unfair. Pitting someone who has the ability to take unlimited amounts of chakra even if their Tenketsu is closed vs someone who has not even near the amount of chakra yet can close up chakra points and has shown to be top Gennin. It really is a "H4XX0rZ" for Naruto.

If Kyubbi is unfair, so is Neji having Byakugan. Take thmem both away and Naruto still wins imo

competitionbros
11-21-2006, 11:32 PM
If Kyubbi is unfair, so is Neji having Byakugan. Take thmem both away and Naruto still wins imo



how so, Neji could blindly put chakra into an opponent and still injure them

kakashifan777
11-21-2006, 11:34 PM
take them both away and NEJI wins

~Zaxxon~
11-21-2006, 11:44 PM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost. anyone else feel that way? coz now i am pissed at Naruto. in fact,right now,i hate him.

dude...calm down.....Naruto is the title character....hence his need to win....I mean the show would suck if the main character lost so easily....:notrust

Shinkirou
11-21-2006, 11:46 PM
It wasn't just kunai that clashed, nor was it just some humdrum chakra. It was stadium-shaking, ground-breaking chakra. That much force isn't going to just knock them back a little.

If it were a level playing field, Neji would have had the Byakugan and, thus, wouldn't have learned Jūken and, thus, wouldn't have learned Hakkeshō Kaiten or Hakke Rokujūyon Shō and, thus, wouldn't have done any damage to Naruto's internal organs or been able to block Naruto's surprise attacks or hit 64 of Naruto's tenketsu. It would come down to who doesn't give up, which is pretty much what it came down to.

The reason why Genma gave Naruto the win was because Neji gave up. Yes, Naruto fell and was on the ground longer, but he didn't give up and he got back up. Neji fell and tried to get up, but he couldn't.

Neji was cocky and paid for it. Naruto doesn't give up easily.


Not what I meant. When I said level playing field, I didn't mean Neji didn't have the byakugan or Naruto not having the Kyuubi. I meant if there was no plot invovled in it at all, as in Naruto winning simply because hes the main character or because it moves the plot along.

I was saying that the internal damage done should have killed him. I dont care how determined you are, if you take massive internal damage like he did you should die.

Not gonna say his name, but 'arms' died from alot less jyuuken strikes than Naruto took, so there's no reason naruto shouldn't have died

Speedycat
11-21-2006, 11:46 PM
Naruto had to win that fight for plot advancement, and that is why he won. Don't hate Naruto, hate Kishimoto.

Itachi_th
11-21-2006, 11:47 PM
take them both away and NEJI wins

I agree, But without the kyuubi he is not that strong i do agree. But later you will get to see naruto's strength without the Kyuubi. I can't say which fight since it's the wrong section but wait.

Smash_2451
11-21-2006, 11:57 PM
Yes, there are obvious ways in which Naruto should've lost, but the fact remains that it's his show, so he really CAN'T lose a battle, and if he did, he'd come back and win anyway. Besides, how would hardcore Naruto fans react if their favorite character lost a battle? I do think it's unfair to be neg repped just for voicing one's opinion and saying that Neji should've won; I guess that just shows you how much the higher ups of this forum value your opinion when it's different from the majority, right?

Just to point out: sure, Neji's way of thinking is a bit dumb, but you can't blame the guy for believing the way he wants to. You see people downplay Naruto's beliefs all of the time, yet no one beats the crap out of him to make him change his opinion; it always stays. Whereas with Neji, he has to be uppercutted to stop talking about destiny. I'm sure some of you can see the contradiction in that, but again, the show IS called Naruto for a reason; it's supposed to play mostly in the favor of the main character and the others are second priority. Eventually, they'll all end up agreeing with his philosophy (Konohamaru, Inari, Neji....and her (you all know who I'm talking about)).

Neji
11-22-2006, 12:03 AM
it was filler

Shinkirou
11-22-2006, 12:16 AM
What was filler?

Shinobi_God
11-22-2006, 12:53 AM
I did say solid hit, Neji blocked/repeled most of it and I dont even see how they ended up in small craters from clashing kunai but w/e. Naruto should have taken a LOT more from it than Neji, plus everything else he got hit with should have put him down long before that.

Your forgetting Naruto heals faster because his demon and all neji really did was block all his chakra points and give him a couple good hits which he could heal from easily... off topic but in the Neji vs Hinata fight neji was actually trying to kill her it seemed like cause he always hit her in the heart he wasnt trying to kill Naruto just block his chakra and make him quit

Itachi_th
11-22-2006, 01:00 AM
it was filler


i don't know if u meant it as a joke:notrust , but if not you should read the manga.

Shinkirou
11-22-2006, 01:05 AM
The chakra points are in the chakra network which is so closely tied to the organs to where hitting points causes internal damage to the organs. and while Neji hit Hinata just in the heart, he his Naruto everywhere in his chest, arms and I think the upper part of the legs. That includes around the heart, so Naruto got what Hinata got times 100. Hinata needed medical attention after that, so 100 times that should equal death.

ShikaKage
11-22-2006, 01:12 AM
Well first of all when Naruto executed the winning blow Neji was distracted because he was going on and on about that stupid destiny thing so if Neji was paying attention he would have seen through Naruto's shadow clone..after all he does have the byakugan. So I think Naruto won just by luckand nothing else,Neji definatly had the upper hand

lecya
11-22-2006, 09:42 AM
People need to get over him using the Kyuubi chakra. Every charcter has something that give them an advantage. Kiba has Akamaru who can morph into a Kiba clone; that's basically like fighting two people and Shino has his bugs which was given to him at a young age. No one complains about either them using thier tools. The Kyuubi chakra is also a tool and Naruto WILL use it to his advantage. What is he gonna do? Sit there and get his ass beat or use something that was given to him at birth?

And yes, Neji could have won but he underestimated his opponent, which is the #1 mistake anyone can do in a fight.

GO NARUTO!

Purgatory
11-24-2006, 04:37 PM
Ok...seriously, who the fuck negged me for saying I'm an idiot because I prefer Neji over Naruto? I have a right to know damnit!

starblade876
11-25-2006, 12:03 AM
Not what I meant. When I said level playing field, I didn't mean Neji didn't have the byakugan or Naruto not having the Kyuubi. I meant if there was no plot invovled in it at all, as in Naruto winning simply because hes the main character or because it moves the plot along.

I was saying that the internal damage done should have killed him. I dont care how determined you are, if you take massive internal damage like he did you should die.

Not gonna say his name, but 'arms' died from alot less jyuuken strikes than Naruto took, so there's no reason naruto shouldn't have died
As Shinobi_God beat me to the punch, if you're not taking away Kyuubi, then Naruto still survives those attacks because Kyuubi heals him (and more rapidly when Naruto taps into the chakra); it's a property we learned in the Wave Arc.

I believe 'arms' got a lot more forceful strike, but, still, he didn't have Naruto's healing ability.

The chakra points are in the chakra network which is so closely tied to the organs to where hitting points causes internal damage to the organs.
The chakra points are like pressure points. When Neji hits them, he's only hitting the points to stop (or increase) the flows of chakra going through those points. Gentle fist attacks (the ones Hinata is able to use, too) are the ones that cause internal organ damage by having the attacker insert chakra into the other person. The chakra points aren't necessarily near organs.

... so if Neji was paying attention he would have seen through Naruto's shadow clone..after all he does have the byakugan.
He can't tell the difference between a Shadow Clone and the real person because Shadow Clones have their own chakra networks. They're real bodies (which is why it's not a low-ranked technique). What he might have been able to do is to see Naruto in the ground though. Of course, Neji probably didn't have enough chakra to even use the Byakugan, so... *shrug*

BigGameJuice!
11-25-2006, 12:05 AM
Neji is fucked up. he deserved to lose that match

he was careless at the

Lonely Soul
11-25-2006, 12:09 AM
Neji need to get beat, it was the only way he would get over himself and learn to become a better person.

Sí sí...Exactly.

Ketsueki Saya
11-25-2006, 12:31 AM
He can't tell the difference between a Shadow Clone and the real person because Shadow Clones have their own chakra networks. They're real bodies (which is why it's not a low-ranked technique). What he might have been able to do is to see Naruto in the ground though. Of course, Neji probably didn't have enough chakra to even use the Byakugan, so... *shrug*

Exactly. Neji specifically states this during the match; he guessed as to which one was Naruto and was wrong (thought it was the one that hung back; but Naruto was one step ahead of him). Byakugan doesn't help him here.

People need to get over him using the Kyuubi chakra. Every charcter has something that give them an advantage. Kiba has Akamaru who can morph into a Kiba clone; that's basically like fighting two people and Shino has his bugs which was given to him at a young age. No one complains about either them using thier tools. The Kyuubi chakra is also a tool and Naruto WILL use it to his advantage. What is he gonna do? Sit there and get his ass beat or use something that was given to him at birth?

And yes, Neji could have won but he underestimated his opponent, which is the #1 mistake anyone can do in a fight.

Again, exactly. All of them have some sort of special tool at their disposal, but people here commonly think it's "cheap" that Naruto uses his. Perhaps because it's potentially the most powerful of all of them, and folks like an underdog. Genma explained at the end, when Neji stated that he couldn't get up; you have to keep your eyes constantly one step ahead and never think you're going to lose.

Art of Run
11-25-2006, 07:26 AM
It was a filler.

Soi Fon
11-25-2006, 03:04 PM
i don't know if u meant it as a joke:notrust , but if not you should read the manga.

lawl.

it was filler

It was a filler.

QFT!

Fonster Mox
11-25-2006, 03:27 PM
That's basically it. Naruto demon is conveniently hidden away until the plot requires him to win a fight. It's called plot no jutsu, and it happens a whole lot throughout the series.

Except during the following fights:

Naruto vs. Mizuki
Naruto/Sasuke vs. Zabuza
Naruto vs. Kiba

-no spoilers-


Which is actually more than half of his fights in the anime, excluding fillers (in which he hardly ever uses the Kyubi)

Phosphorus
11-25-2006, 03:50 PM
Lawl. Filler what?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/hyourinkage/naruto-12-5-16.png

Panic Attack
11-25-2006, 05:39 PM
Who ever keeps saying it was just filler is a dipshit. Quit griping about it, Neji isn't Mr. Perfect....

Rokurai
11-26-2006, 08:36 PM
I've recently just realized by reading this topic how unfair I was being to Naruto by saying "Naruto is cheating". I used to think Kyuubi was unfair, but look at how many times a day Neji overuses Byakugan, or Sasuke overuses Sharingan and Curse Seal. Your "power" in Naruto is about what bloodline you possess, or what god-moding technique you can do, and nothing else. That's why the fact that Naruto using Kyuubi seems unfair, though it isn't. Because it utterly pwns everything else in the series.

No SPOILERS

Oh, and a few more things...

1. Anyone notice Neji WAS NOT using Byakugan when he did Hakke Rokujuuyonshou?

2. The reason he didn't win was he was repeatedly extremely careless in fighting Naruto. Because there was no physical possibility he could lose, he played with him. He went out of Byakugan after the explosion, and hence he was unable to see that a second Naruto was underground. (Not that the Naruto was a clone, since Naruto has enough chakra control to divide it evenly among his clones making it impossible for Byakugan to sense the real one)

Phosphorus
11-26-2006, 10:28 PM
Oh, and a few more things...

1. Anyone notice Neji WAS NOT using Byakugan when he did Hakke Rokujuuyonshou?




He is in the manga.. Or is that at some other point? >> I haven't seen that episode in a looong time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/hyourinkage/naruto-12-2-11.png

Sasuke_Asakura
11-26-2006, 10:46 PM
Naruto,this alreddy happened,even on the english version

Sasuke_Asakura
11-26-2006, 10:47 PM
Naruto,this alreddy happened,even on the english version

Phosphorus
11-26-2006, 10:51 PM
Naruto,this alreddy happened,even on the english version

...What...?

Rokurai
11-26-2006, 10:54 PM
Oh. I don't read the manga, so I wouldn't know. I should probably start though.

escamoh
11-26-2006, 10:55 PM
this fight was filler...

i mean seriously, how the hell does a weak ninja like naruto beat neji??

Phosphorus
11-26-2006, 11:11 PM
Lawl. Filler what?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/hyourinkage/naruto-12-5-16.png

Zomfg. The fight was NOT filler. Please tell me you're kidding?

Soi Fon
11-27-2006, 12:17 AM
Naruto,this alreddy happened,even on the english version

:laugh WTF?

escamoh
11-27-2006, 12:20 AM
no no this fight was filler

kishimoto is wrong

neji >> naruto

Chojuto
11-27-2006, 12:23 AM
Neji was a bitch before he got his ass kicked by Naruto, so he deserved it. But now he's okay.

Phosphorus
11-27-2006, 12:24 AM
no no this fight was filler

kishimoto is wrong

neji >> naruto


Yeah, yeah, I agree. But the fight is still not filler. :sweatdrop

escamoh
11-27-2006, 03:34 AM
i knew you'd see it my way

now we all agree that neji >>>>>> naruto

whitesilencer
11-27-2006, 04:16 AM
I think Naruto beat Neiji fair and square. But only because Neiji underestimated his opponent and let his guard down. It really doesn't matter how powerful or how skillfull you are, what matters is if you know how to END a fight on your terms.

Colonel Angus
11-27-2006, 05:26 AM
I think Naruto beat Neiji fair and square. But only because Neiji underestimated his opponent and let his guard down. It really doesn't matter how powerful or how skillfull you are, what matters is if you know how to END a fight on your terms.

Stop it. You make too much sense.

HLR_23710
11-27-2006, 08:53 AM
They're the two talented ones and I really admire them! WHo wins is not the problem, the problem is that they can make progress after one battle. And they're the coolest ninjas ever, :">

Smoke
11-27-2006, 10:15 AM
guys guess what?

the show is called 'naruto'

and he 'changes' people for the better

look at inari, a little jerk who couldn't get his head out of his ass, and who came in there and knocked some sense into him; NARUTO

and now there's neji OMG!! what, he beat neji?
yea, and in beating him, he 'changed' him, for the better

and he'll probably change way more people in the future, so don't get pissed

Rokurai
11-27-2006, 01:37 PM
Phosphorus you live in PA? What town? I live outside o' Pittsburgh, in Monroeville. I'm in Tarentum with my grandpa right now though.

Phosphorus
11-27-2006, 02:14 PM
Phosphorus you live in PA? What town? I live outside o' Pittsburgh, in Monroeville. I'm in Tarentum with my grandpa right now though.

I live in Hopewell.

Rokurai
11-27-2006, 02:20 PM
I don't know where that is, but yay Pennsylvania!

Phosphorus
11-27-2006, 03:11 PM
I don't know where that is, but yay Pennsylvania!

Heard of Aliquippa then?

On-topicness: Uh... >> Oh noez Neji lost?

Rokurai
11-27-2006, 04:22 PM
Yeah, is it close to that?

O-T= Um....Jyuukenhou Hakke Rokujuu Yonshou Hakke Ni Shou Yon Shou Hachi Shou Juuroku Shou Sanjuuni Shou Hakke Rokujuuyonshou?

competitionbros
11-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Naruto won, Neji should've though, that's the bottom line

escamoh
11-27-2006, 04:47 PM
naruto only won because he's the main character

this is why the fight is filler

Rokurai
11-27-2006, 04:49 PM
Do you even know what the word filler means?

Lord Jure
11-27-2006, 04:50 PM
this fight is not filler becouse it have very important meaning for neji

kYdizzle
11-27-2006, 05:05 PM
it is funny to see all of you arguing over this fight... who should have won... misusing the word filler... just accept that naruto won and move on


naruto only won because he's the main character

this is why the fight is filler
how far are you going to take that joke esca- i would think that a fellow human would get the idea that he is wrong... or are you trying to copy Neji pre-ass kicking?
it is getting sad now

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:02 PM
who said i was joking

neji vs naruto = filler

ando's word is law

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:05 PM
Ando is an idiot....no doubt.
Ando's word = shit that just doesn't make sense.
Ando's word = neji fandom of the stupidest order
Ando's word = retarded crazed fan babble

shookLOL
11-27-2006, 06:06 PM
Neji is more superior to naruto in almost everyway so far except for narutos amazing plot no jutsu.

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:07 PM
ando is a genius of the ages

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:08 PM
ando is a genius of the ages
See my edited post for all your awnsers to Ando's idiocy.

Blizzard chain
11-27-2006, 06:08 PM
ikazuchi ookami is an idiot....no doubt.
ikazuchi ookami's word = shit that just doesn't make sense.
ikazuchi ookami's word = fail fandom of the stupidest order
ikazuchi ookami's word = retarded crazed fan babble


Where is my cookie esca?

Blizzard chain
11-27-2006, 06:09 PM
Neji obviously let naruto win. There werre hundreds of oppurtunities where he let naruto get up where he could have jyuukened him to death.

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:10 PM
dey see ando postin

dey h8tn

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:10 PM
Where is my cookie esca?
Yeah, you're only chance to make fun of me is to edit my post. You're a joke dude.

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:11 PM
Neji obviously let naruto win. There werre hundreds of oppurtunities where he let naruto get up where he could have jyuukened him to death.
I'll believe this when the earth collides into the sun....

Blizzard chain
11-27-2006, 06:12 PM
Its the truth.

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:14 PM
well actually the sun is going to expand and engulf the earth eventually but that does not matter

if neji was not busy giving his life story to naruto, he would have pwned his ass

that is why kishimoto is wrong

naruto got lucky, that fight does not count

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:16 PM
Its the truth.
Yeah sure....Only a crazed neji fan would believe that. Trust me if Neji had gotten out of his stupid superiority complex he might have won.

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:17 PM
well actually the sun is going to expand and engulf the earth eventually but that does not matter

if neji was not busy giving his life story to naruto, he would have pwned his ass

that is why kishimoto is wrong

naruto got lucky, that fight does not count
Finally you make sense....but the show is called Naruto not Neji. So Naruto wins by default.

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:20 PM
exactly

he only wins because he is the main character

and also, telling your life story while giving the opponent a chance to recover does not sound like it has anything to do with a superiority complex

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:23 PM
exactly

he only wins because he is the main character

and also, telling your life story while giving the opponent a chance to recover does not sound like it has anything to do with a superiority complex
With the exception of his life-story babble...the rest of the fight was filled with him underestimating Naruto. Thus displaying his thoughts of his superiority.

He has to remember(as well as his fans) that he is not a godly being. That's why i hate him so much. His fan's never-ending ranting is very annoying.

Geg
11-27-2006, 06:23 PM
lol esca

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:29 PM
With the exception of his life-story babble...the rest of the fight was filled with him underestimating Naruto. Thus displaying his thoughts of his superiority.

He has to remember(as well as his fans) that he is not a godly being. That's why i hate him so much. His fan's never-ending ranting is very annoying.
yes i know that

but the life story part took up a large part of the fight, if kishimoto was not a moron, neji would have won

come to the golden byakugam and your mind will become unclouded of uchiha shit influence :GB

lol esca
lol geg

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:30 PM
yes i know that

but the life story part took up a large part of the fight, if kishimoto was not a moron, neji would have won

come to the golden byakugam and your mind will become unclouded of uchiha shit influence :GB

ehhh....

1. I don't believe in GB, so.....
2. I hate the Uchiha just as much.

escamoh
11-27-2006, 06:37 PM
suit yourself

GB members get lots of good free porn

Panic Attack
11-27-2006, 06:46 PM
LMAO...that would be the ONLY reason i'd join.

Blizzard chain
11-27-2006, 06:51 PM
It was for ploit purposes naruto won. It would suck if neji one to the minds of the fans who haven't heard of GB. It was an excuse to introduce neji in more detail.

Zorokiller
11-28-2006, 06:30 AM
Neji has golden byukugan so wins this fight

Kakuzu
11-28-2006, 08:11 AM
negi vs narito was fillar!!!!!

Ando is an idiot....no doubt.
Ando's word = shit that just doesn't make sense.
Ando's word = neji fandom of the stupidest order
Ando's word = retarded crazed fan babble
Is that why you lurk in the GB FC?
OMG WTF!

Terrence Urameshi
11-28-2006, 11:44 AM
lol, anyone with a brain should've expected Neji to lose. Anyway, I'm heated that the damn fight ended with one punch to the chin. Put yourself in Genma's situation. Now assuming you didn't know of Naruto's ability to harness Kyuubi's chakra, wouldn't you have called the match when his chakra points were obstructed? How gay. In all honesty Neji should've have won.

Panic Attack
11-28-2006, 12:44 PM
negi vs narito was fillar!!!!!


Is that why you lurk in the GB FC?
OMG WTF!

GB is fucking stupid...the only reason i lurked there was to see how stupid it has gotten. I pop in there every once in awhile.

shadow__nin
11-28-2006, 02:13 PM
I like Neji he is one of my faves, but Naruto taught him a lesson. (^;^)

Chojuto
11-28-2006, 03:36 PM
I like Neji he is one of my faves, but Naruto taught him a lesson. (^;^)

Yeah I agree! Neji was a bitch before he got his ass kicked.

sharringan warrior
11-28-2006, 05:06 PM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost. anyone else feel that way? coz now i am pissed at Naruto. in fact,right now,i hate him.

Holy shit that's exactly how I feel! If Naruto wasn't the main character he would have gotten his ass handed to him. Also if it weren't for his fox chakra the same conclusion would occur. Yeah it really does piss me off.

zarien
11-28-2006, 05:49 PM
While admittadly, I never really started liking Neji until after this fight (now he's one of my favorite characters) to this day, I think it's one of the lamest fights in the series, if only for the ending. The ONLY reason Naruto won, was because he was the main character. They didn't even try to made it plausable.

HOOfan_1
11-28-2006, 05:50 PM
Naruto is a hard worker and has heart, Neji was too focused on being a butt to defeat Naruto. Naruto doesn't need the fox chakra...he has enough of his own and enough stamina of his own to defeat Neji, he just hasn't figured out how to use his own strength yet, just like a tall kid who had an early growth spurt is clumsy, Naruto has too much power to know how to use it correctly.

starblade876
11-28-2006, 06:46 PM
They didn't even try to made it plausable.
You mean like making Neji use up all his chakra to defend against Naruto's attack? Or do you mean like letting it be known that Naruto can tap into an enormous amount of chakra from the Nine-Tailed Fox sealed inside him? :huh

Seriously, it's not like Naruto said "Believe it!" and then Neji fainted for a second and lost. :oh

The MMAthematician
11-28-2006, 08:51 PM
suit yourself

GB members get lots of good free pornsmile-big smile-big

So you heard!

I agree with everything esca has said in this thread.:nod

sharringan warrior
11-28-2006, 09:46 PM
Naruto is a hard worker and has heart, Neji was too focused on being a butt to defeat Naruto. Naruto doesn't need the fox chakra...he has enough of his own and enough stamina of his own to defeat Neji, he just hasn't figured out how to use his own strength yet, just like a tall kid who had an early growth spurt is clumsy, Naruto has too much power to know how to use it correctly.

Yeah he works hard but his stamina comes from the fox. Just because he isn't using the fox chakra doesn't mean that he's just himself. He got other abilities from the fox too. I will agree that Neji was being a fag though. And Naruto doesn't have too much power to know how to use it. That doesn't even make sense. At least not anymore since the 5 pronged seal was released.

General Mustang
11-28-2006, 10:12 PM
Yeah he works hard but his stamina comes from the fox. Just because he isn't using the fox chakra doesn't mean that he's just himself. He got other abilities from the fox too. I will agree that Neji was being a fag though. And Naruto doesn't have too much power to know how to use it. That doesn't even make sense. At least not anymore since the 5 pronged seal was released.

Agreed, Naruto 100% of the time is more then just himself although he doesn't realize it

Azurite
11-28-2006, 10:16 PM
Neji didnt see what was going to hit him, in fact he thought he was winning until Naruto came back on his feet; and kicked Nejis ass :amuse

Colonel Angus
11-28-2006, 10:56 PM
Holy shit that's exactly how I feel! If Naruto wasn't the main character he would have gotten his ass handed to him. Also if it weren't for his fox chakra the same conclusion would occur. Yeah it really does piss me off.

WTF?!?! If it wasn't for his fox chakra? That's like saying if it wasn't foe Neji's Byakugan, he wouldn't be so strong. The fact is.. Naruto had to train for that whole month to be able to control that chakra on his own. There's a reason why those Jounin AND the Hokage were surprised and impressed that he could control it W/O losing himself to it. Stop trying to make excuses because Neji didn't finish him off.

Yeah he works hard but his stamina comes from the fox. Just because he isn't using the fox chakra doesn't mean that he's just himself. He got other abilities from the fox too. I will agree that Neji was being a fag though. And Naruto doesn't have too much power to know how to use it. That doesn't even make sense. At least not anymore since the 5 pronged seal was released.

Incorrect. If anything.. the Demon Fox chakra is a hinderence to Naruto and his own chakra. But we'll learn more about that later. But an example I can show is the fight he had against those genjutsu users in the forest of death. ALL NIGHT he had MULTIPLE Kage Bunshins going at it with other clones AT THE SAME TIME having three of them henged as Sakura, Sasuke & Kabuto. And he did this after Orochimaru put another seal on top of the original that the 4th put. And he was still the one to give the finishing blow to those three nin.

Rokurai
11-28-2006, 11:11 PM
^This guy knows what he's talking about.

Rokurai
11-28-2006, 11:20 PM
well actually the sun is going to expand and engulf the earth eventually but that does not matter

if neji was not busy giving his life story to naruto, he would have pwned his ass

that is why kishimoto is wrong

naruto got lucky, that fight does not count

That's about as intelligent as saying, "Your username isn't esca. It's STFU no Jutsu. You're wrong. Bitch."



He has to remember(as well as his fans) that he is not a godly being. That's why i hate him so much.
Yes he is. Everything about Neji is godly. Neji Neji Neji Neji Neji Neji Neji Neji Neji Neji! He whoops your ass! Hakke Rokujuuyonshou FTW!


Neji's cool AFTER this fight.

It reminds me of a pic I saw of all these people holding up a banner saying, "We got some sense beaten into us by Naruto Club!" And they're trying to get Sasuke to get out of his bucket (Dattebayoers you know what I'm talking about) and he's like, "I won't come out!"

Sycur
11-29-2006, 01:14 AM
I can't belive that Naruto won that match, it looked so one sided, but I could understand Naruto's speach he made about destiny, Neji should learn now that destiny is not a set path in life, and he had to lose that match to show that to himself, and if he hadn't of had to fight so hard against Naruto, he wouldn't have shown his skill to the main house thus he wouldn't have learned the truth about his father and actually learned about destiny.

Finn Mac Cool
11-29-2006, 01:16 AM
In the next episode, the doctors say there doesn't appear to be any real damage to Neji; he simply used up all of his chakra. This explains the one punch thing: Neji had to put all of his chakra (which is directly tied to stamina) into repealing Naruto's demon powered attack, so, when Naruto punched Neji, he had nothing left; his last tiny bit of energy was going into standing up, and Naruto's underground upper-cut took care of that.

legan
11-29-2006, 01:17 AM
Neji got beat to prove a point. You can't tell people what their destinies are. And it takes a speial kind of someone to prove that.

That and Kyuubi ftw \m/>_<\m/

Colonel Angus
11-29-2006, 01:32 AM
In the next episode, the doctors say there doesn't appear to be any real damage to Neji; he simply used up all of his chakra. This explains the one punch thing: Neji had to put all of his chakra (which is directly tied to stamina) into repealing Naruto's demon powered attack, so, when Naruto punched Neji, he had nothing left; his last tiny bit of energy was going into standing up, and Naruto's underground upper-cut took care of that.


True.. lack of chakra would explain. But your jaw is a direct path to your skull/brain. Notice also that it can move. The top of your head on the other hand is very hard and sturdy, to protect the brain. Take that into account, the best place to knock someone out would be to hit 'em in the chin. Hit someone with an uppercut or hook to the chin, you'll make that person's brain rattle. Screws up your nervous system.

ED!t:

Here's a site that gives boxing tips. http://www.fightin-fit.com/Boxing_Tips.htm. Look at number 7

If your going for a knock-out, aim for the chin. A solid punch to the chin overloads the millions of nerves in the chin area and causes the brain to blackout. Also, by hitting someone from a side shot to the chin you cause the head to spin or move very quickly. The head moves but the brain stays in place. This causes a twist in the brain stem which causes another overload of the nerves. This then results in a knock-out.

Chojuto
11-29-2006, 02:15 AM
True.. lack of chakra would explain. But your jaw is a direct path to your skull/brain. Notice also that it can move. The top of your head on the other hand is very hard and sturdy, to protect the brain. Take that into account, the best place to knock someone out would be to hit 'em in the chin. Hit someone with an uppercut or hook to the chin, you'll make that person's brain rattle. Screws up your nervous system.

ED!t:

Here's a site that gives boxing tips. http://www.fightin-fit.com/Boxing_Tips.htm. Look at number 7

I think we should listen to this person.

HOOfan_1
11-30-2006, 08:40 PM
Yeah he works hard but his stamina comes from the fox. Just because he isn't using the fox chakra doesn't mean that he's just himself. He got other abilities from the fox too. I will agree that Neji was being a fag though. And Naruto doesn't have too much power to know how to use it. That doesn't even make sense. At least not anymore since the 5 pronged seal was released.

I know this forum is for the English Cartoon Network version only, but I base my statements on more than just the Cartoon Network version.

Lemonade
02-08-2007, 09:15 PM
I am not pissed I am pleased Naruto beat him, he clearly underestimated the guy.

milesprowler
02-09-2007, 08:33 PM
naruto is main char makin him have a 75% win rate? neji was being to cocky also >.>

Birkin
02-09-2007, 09:32 PM
He got beaten because he deserved and needed it... you'll see :)

sukettebayo
02-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Naruto won the fight, its over. There's no need to babble on how "Neji iz da best ninja in konoha" and him losing to naruto is a fluke. Lets look towards the future people, sure neji a great ninja but naruto has amazing potential because of the seemingly endless amount of chakra he has from the kyubbi sealed inside of him. His victory over Neji is just another rung in the ladder towards naruto's dream, to become Hokage...BELIEVE IT!

Discussion ended.

8uchiha_itachi8
02-10-2007, 08:09 PM
naruto one good for him he does have the demon fox so the chances of him wining were big and neji deserved that for beating up henata and talking about all that destiny crap dont get me wrong nejis still my main man though

Kyūbi Naruto
02-11-2007, 01:53 AM
How can you argue? How can the main character loose? If the main character looses a hole gets torn in the mid-universe.

Lord_Tenchi
02-11-2007, 06:28 PM
If neji didn't lose then he would continue being a jerk then probably get himself killed in battle for underestimating his opponent like he did with Naruto

Purgatory
02-19-2007, 06:34 PM
It was a total fluke.

Kyon
02-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Neji got beat because he didn't take the fight seriously at the beginning, and he just STOOD there while Naruto was radiating chakra. I personally would have rushed up and smashed him in the face. :oh

Haruni
03-03-2007, 02:18 AM
Neji was distracted, but he really needed the beat down to make him less arrogant.

Lunar88
03-06-2007, 09:58 PM
Neji deserved what he got. I can't stand Neji, he is a dick. Serves him right for what he did to Hinata!:yell Anyone who is supposed to be the strongest Genin and uphold the responsiblity and honor of the title and then goes and trys to kill a shy gentle girl who is a year younger then him deserves to be beaten into paralysis. Hell if Naruto wouldn't have beat the crap out him I would have. (Big Hinata fan if you can't tell.lol :) )

Uchiha Maikeru
03-07-2007, 12:06 AM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost. anyone else feel that way? coz now i am pissed at Naruto. in fact,right now,i hate him.
Why would you be pissed at Naruto? He used the element of surprise on Neji. And really, Neji was foolish to underestimate Naruto. That was a mistake that cost him the match.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Neji fan, which is why I get bothered so much when Neji says and does stupid things. It's like, I want to tell you: Dude, c'mon! You're better than this!

Anyway, Neji would win. Hands down. Neji has all the skills to defeat Naruto. Naruto was lucky Neji underestimated him the way he did. I doubt he'll ever make that mistake again, against anyone.

Murderous Intent
03-07-2007, 04:51 AM
lol, comparing a genin with someone who is powered by a demon who even the 4th hokage was unable to kill.

rawzsi
03-07-2007, 04:21 PM
Why would you be pissed at Naruto? He used the element of surprise on Neji. And really, Neji was foolish to underestimate Naruto. That was a mistake that cost him the match.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Neji fan, which is why I get bothered so much when Neji says and does stupid things. It's like, I want to tell you: Dude, c'mon! You're better than this!

Anyway, Neji would win. Hands down. Neji has all the skills to defeat Naruto. Naruto was lucky Neji underestimated him the way he did. I doubt he'll ever make that mistake again, against anyone.

Mmm, yeah, I definately agree. It was kind of what Neji got for being so cocky.

Darkened_Uchihaz
03-13-2007, 09:44 PM
Neji needed to buckle down a bit. Him and his cocky behavior. If he focused more on the match than all that crap about how destinies were already chosen for people and they couldn't change it, the match might've been in Neji's favor.

dannyuzumaki
03-15-2007, 04:02 PM
neji sucks i think naruto is better than everbody

Kyuubi no Youko
03-15-2007, 06:11 PM
Neji truly has a good ability, but Naruto has the Fox. Neji, and no one else, will ever be strong enaugh to beat the power of this demon. Even Sasuke using his curse-mark won't be able to mess with the power of the nine-tailed.

Tousen
03-15-2007, 06:23 PM
Neji truly has a good ability, but Naruto has the Fox. Neji, and no one else, will ever be strong enaugh to beat the power of this demon. Even Sasuke using his curse-mark won't be able to mess with the power of the nine-tailed.


neji had that match lost from the start which i think is wack because naruto isnt even a skillful ninja...all he has is that demon fox...if it wasnt for that fox i would even put money down that choji could smack naruto up



neji was robbed in that match

naruto-taichou
03-15-2007, 06:57 PM
That is like saying neji with no byakugan.

Neji has byakugan
Naruto has nine-tails

That the hands they were dealt they must play it. Neji got beat he had to he was out of contol. No 13 year old should talk like that. He is skilled but that is not the only thing to being a shinobi. With this lost the author wants to drive that point home. Plus he needed to be humbled.

Tousen
03-15-2007, 07:01 PM
That is like saying neji with no byakugan.

Neji has byakugan
Naruto has nine-tails

That the hands they were dealt they must play it. Neji got beat he had to he was out of contol. No 13 year old should talk like that. He is skilled but that is not the only thing to being a shinobi. With this lost the author wants to drive that point home. Plus he needed to be humbled.



neji was still at a disadvantage because everyone knew about his byakugan...none of the other fighters new that the nine tails rest inside naruto...and u saying he shouldnt be talking like that...thats like saying sasuke shouldnt be out to kill his brother and only his brother..he should focus on being a shinobi first...and to be honestly true i thought it was quite bs when after neji gave naruto 64 palms that naruto was still able to use chakra wether it was his or the foxes

lollipop
03-21-2007, 10:22 PM
Neji need to get beat, it was the only way he would get over himself and learn to become a better person.
I 100% agree with you! Neji is just a selfish, rude, person. He needs to be taught into being a better and kinder person.

Shirozaki
03-22-2007, 01:09 AM
i cant fuckin believe Neji lost. anyone else feel that way? coz now i am pissed at Naruto. in fact,right now,i hate him.

it's life. deal with it.

Damoss
03-22-2007, 11:25 AM
neji had that match lost from the start which i think is wack because naruto isnt even a skillful ninja...all he has is that demon fox...if it wasnt for that fox i would even put money down that choji could smack naruto up



neji was robbed in that match

Chouji would smack most up.

-No Spoilers- :D

Taking this into account as your evidence, this would mean Gaara is also a lame ninja aswell as others.

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 11:27 AM
If Naruto didnt have the fox he would have lost... But it was a good fight

Damoss
03-22-2007, 11:29 AM
Naruto was born with the fox demon inside him which was due to Yondaime.

and the theory that yondaime is naruto's father

technically makes this a bloodline limit, just like Byakugen.

So thus your contradicting yourself.

This would mean that anyone with a bloodline limit - shino, sasuke, itachi, *NEJI*, kimimaru etc. all suck too?

K..

If Naruto didnt have the fox he would have lost... But it was a good fight

If Neji didn't have byakugen he would have lost, what is your point. o.O

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 11:34 AM
What does any of that have to do with Naruto having a demon Fox in his stomache? If he didnt have it, then he wouldnt have a back-up source of chakra. So when Neji Disabled All his chakra points, he really wouldnt have got up....
And no, the fox is not a bloodline limit

Damoss
03-22-2007, 11:35 AM
A Bloodline limit is technically a special "skill" passed down through a family at birth.

The theory beyond Yondaime being Narutos kin

would make it a bloodline limit.

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 11:38 AM
How is a Demon Fox in your Gut a special ability???
No technically being passed down would be between Father and son. Even if Yondie is Naruto's Father, he never had the fox in his gut.... He gave it to naruto personally

Damoss
03-22-2007, 11:43 AM
He technically sealed the fox inside a new born baby (naruto) so therefore he personally sealed it within him.

Anyways - must go, im in computing class >_<

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 11:46 AM
Ok whatever... There Are 2 Bloodlines in Konoha so far and thats it. Hyuuga and Uchiha. Everyone else is just a simple family technique

Damoss
03-22-2007, 11:49 AM
Shino - Bugs
Chouji - Supersize
Haku - Mirrors
etc.

These are all seen as bloodline too, anyways bye!

+rep for you for the good debate.
(eventhough i dont know if it counts - whatever)

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 11:51 AM
K Later

Haku- Not from Konoha
Shino-Simply Just has a contract with bugs
Chouji- Family Technique


(Nah it didn't count :P)

Hitokiri118
03-22-2007, 11:53 AM
at the time i actually thought neji had more skill than naruto but neji got toooooooooo over confident when naruto kept fighting thinking of the next move. result= neji thought he won so he let his gaurd down naruto took advantage and won

Hitokiri118
03-22-2007, 11:55 AM
dont forget the nara bloodline

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 11:56 AM
Thats not a blood line either. simply a family technique

Hitokiri118
03-22-2007, 11:57 AM
isnt that what a bloodline is a technique or abiltiy only a certain family can use

Damoss
03-22-2007, 11:58 AM
Tmb please look them up, as for now, i'm leaving for home.

Most likely wont be on until tomorrow.

Bye all.

Tmb04
03-22-2007, 12:02 PM
iight peace out Damoss

But I'm tellin ya its not a bloodline. If ya go to an info site they say there only
3 introduced so far. And thats Haku, Sasuke, And Neji+Hinata

Dreikoo
03-23-2007, 01:54 AM
Kekke Genkai (bloodline limits) are GENETICAL evolutions of the DNA of people that happen in the Naruto universe which give ninja special abilities such as the saringan or the byakugan.

Kyuubi is just the effect of the sealing performed onto Naruto by yondaime. If 2 Hyuuga have a child it may inherit the byakugan because it's all about getnetics.

When naruto has a kid a second kyuubi won't be magically created and magically sealed in it's body.

Got it? :P

shadow_shika
03-23-2007, 09:03 AM
Kekke Genkai (bloodline limits) are GENETICAL evolutions of the DNA of people that happen in the Naruto universe which give ninja special abilities such as the saringan or the byakugan.

Kyuubi is just the effect of the sealing performed onto Naruto by yondaime. If 2 Hyuuga have a child it may inherit the byakugan because it's all about getnetics.

When naruto has a kid a second kyuubi won't be magically created and magically sealed in it's body.

yeah your right

Lee163
03-25-2007, 01:55 PM
everyody if naruto did't hav the nine taild foxspirit inside of him he wud bi a lozer

everyody if naruto did't hav the nine taild foxspirit inside of him he wud bi a lozer

Yellow
03-25-2007, 04:11 PM
Neji needed to get his ass beat right then and Naruto happened to be there and did it. I Still like Neji though.

Mrs.UchihaSasuke
03-25-2007, 08:15 PM
Naruto would win.

Death Sonjo
03-25-2007, 08:20 PM
Neji need to get beat, it was the only way he would get over himself and learn to become a better person.

Winner. :nod

Sasuke_Uchiha
03-25-2007, 08:24 PM
naruto won the first time so what make u think neji would win???

lollipop
03-25-2007, 08:32 PM
Naruto will win!!! Neji deserves to get his ass kicked.
Believe it!

Midnight ♥
03-25-2007, 08:36 PM
o.O If Neji won the first fight, it would have only proved that everything he said about destiny was correct, and he'd probably still be an ass. Naruto had to win to prove him wrong.

As for the whole Kekkai Genkai thing, the only Kekkai Genkai we've seen so far are the Sharingan, Byakugan, and Haku's Ice Mirrors. The rest are family techniques.

Oh, and Naruto would win.

Steven Pinhead
03-25-2007, 08:51 PM
everyody if naruto did't hav the nine taild foxspirit inside of him he wud bi a lozer

everyody if naruto did't hav the nine taild foxspirit inside of him he wud bi a lozer

Then explain why he didn't need it until the very end of the fight with Gaara while that bastard Sasuke used his Curse Seal after like 5 minutes?

Haku
03-25-2007, 09:29 PM
naruto Ftw!!

HOOfan_1
03-25-2007, 11:41 PM
everyody if naruto did't hav the nine taild foxspirit inside of him he wud bi a lozer

everyody if naruto did't hav the nine taild foxspirit inside of him he wud bi a lozer

what would Neji be without Byakugan? Not that I agree with your statement, but is the Nine-tail being in Naruto that much different than Neji's kekkai genkai? As the saying goes, all is fair in love and war and Naruto DOES have the nine-tail chakra so he beat Neji and would do it again as long as he gets mad enough to call on the chakra.

Dreikoo
03-26-2007, 09:40 AM
People forget that Naruto forced kyuubi to share his chakra with him. And he calls him kuso kitsune (damn fox or shit fox if translated literally) without flinching one bit.

He also managed to have gamabunta accept him as his summon master. I bet no other gennin has the strongest summon beast of any summon beast familly do their bidding like Naruto has.

Because kyuubi rocks so much people tend to overlook Narutos' other attributes and that's rather stupid.

yondaime the 4th hokage
12-19-2007, 01:36 AM
naruto would beat gaara after a tough battle.

dodgekfc
12-19-2007, 02:48 AM
naruto would win again but it could also go to neji it all matters how the fight gos

Kiba
03-30-2008, 02:15 PM
naruto got this.

ZigZag
08-15-2008, 03:23 AM
Naruto wins this.

Rion Ryuzaki
08-15-2008, 03:45 AM
Naruto would beat Neji

Portia
08-16-2008, 02:40 PM
naruto beats on neji again