Chinese Lessons

[-KaKashi-]

hmm im still kinda confused how to say them lol the numbers are confusing me or are they suppose to be the characters sakura ?

[-KaKashi-]

Hey guys i was just lookinjg around this forum topic the language classes uhm i dont mean to offend anyone so my pardons if you feel :S well i was thinking how about someone do a chinese class thing like the japanese lessons but chinese instead i mean i dont no how to speak chinese but id sure like to So if theres anyone out there that wants to help me and others learn chinese please do keep in touch.

Jaamata:kkkawarim :dance :sgan

[-KaKashi-]

Also can you PM me to let me no what you think or what you want to say to me in private and not on this thread.
TY Jaamata:kkkawarim

[AuxunauxiaNoname]

中文？

zhong wen?

我会中文。。。 但是，写跟读我会的不太多。

wo hui zhong wen... dan shi, xie gen du wo hue de bu tai duo..

说我是没问题得。 加上我会拼音。

shuo wo shi mei wen ti de. jia shang wo hui pin yin.

说英语的人因该学拼音比较好。

shuo yin wen de ren yin gai xue pin yin bi jiao hao.

^_^

Lolz.

[-KaKashi-]

eh i dont understand u man lol but u wna hlp me learn chinese tho?

[HakuPotter]

我也正在学习中文。
I'm studying Chinese now.

如果你愿意，
If you want,

我们可以一起学习！
we can study together.

[Chee]

Typing in Chinese is too troublesome.

>.> I know some Chinese too, but I'm still on my first year. :P

[Tenten-Neji55]

I'm Chinese but i don't know how to speak. Srry. ^^'

[-KaKashi-]

:D ^^ sure ill learn chinese with u all cos sharing is caring :nod and yup im up for it ^^ uhm Auxunauxia can u b like uhm hmm doing lessons with us aswel plz? ill make a members list xP ty

[-KaKashi-]

hey tenten-neji can we use your chinese FC for this chinese lesson club?

[Sakura]

我是中国人,我会说中文.

I could do better, I know. But it kinda bothers me to type anymore.

[-KaKashi-]

lol y wt u mean? as in typing in chinese or english lol or all together?

[Sakura]

Typing in Chinese obviously. Pinyin is so obnoxious;

[-KaKashi-]

lol i c ^^ it would b much easier in english then ^^ so u think u cn get us started on the lessons?

[Dango]

你想学读华语还是学说华语啊?
ni2 xiang3 xue2 du2 hua2 yu3 hai2 shi4 xue2 hua2 yu2 a1?
Which do you want to learn:to speak chinese or to read chinese?

[-KaKashi-]

well for now i gess we can all learn to read and understand the basics and well all the beginners stuff hows that sound? like intorducing ourselfs, learning numbers, and well i gess u no what i mean from this lol hows that sound then all ppl 3 to reply =3

[-KaKashi-]

Hey all if u wna sign up plz send me a PM and your request to join this thread or lessons ty:amuse

[AuxunauxiaNoname]

There's actually two systems of Chinese characters...

There's the simplified, and the traditional.

Mainland Chinese usually use simplified. Taiwanese, and I think Hong Kong still use traditional. And also interestingly enough, Japanese kanji is also typically traditional Chinese characters (although they often have different meanings).

As an illustration of how the two are different, take the character for talk:

说 is the Chinese simplified version.

說 is the Chinese traditional version.

Other examples of differences:

ai - love

爱 - simplified
愛 - traditional

feng - wind

风 - simplified
風 - traditional

They're not always different.

For example:

金 - is the character for 'gold'
金 - see it's the same ^_^

[-KaKashi-]

^^ well glad to c theres a stat here :D but uhm auxu i cnt c ur characters :S they look like thin bloks like [] but togther :S uhm auxu u think u can start us of with a lil self introduction of our selfs (how to say it e.t.c) :amuse

[Sakura]

I've been learning the traditional way for 8 years. However, the moment I came to mainland China, I managed to switch to simplified Chinese in less than 2 months.

Call me genius. ^^

[AuxunauxiaNoname]

Lynxe-san is a genius.

KaKashi-san, if you have Windows XP there's an easy way to install the Asian Language system.

Right now I can type in Chinese, both simplified and traditional, Japanese, and Spanish.

:grin

Just go into the Control Panel and go to Date, Time, Language and Regional Options. Then there should be a 'add other languages' option. Click that, and then check the box that says 'install files for East Asian languages'.

After that's done, click the button that says 'Details...'

Then click Add and after that it should just be self-explanatory.

You can install the keyboard input for any language. Well, any that's available that is. Most of the common languages are available though. Like Spanish, French, German, Italian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese... for goodness sakes they even have Mongolian.

For Chinese though, personally I've installed the Chinese (Taiwan) for traditional characters, and Chinese (PRC) for simplified.

There are also several input methods for Chinese. The easiest one for westerners though, I'd say, would probably be pinyin.

PRC version uses this automatically, but the Taiwanese version doesn't. For the Taiwanese version you have to go to the language bar (which is usually somewhere on the top of your screen, and if not there, it's on the bottom somewhere along the line where the taskbar is).

If you see that, you'll realize, oh gee I have the option to switch to another language?　Kind of how I stumbled onto this thing. And yeah, you do.

If you installed the Chinese language files, and you click where it says EN English (United States), you should get a drop-down menu that lists all the languages you have available to use (the ones you've added through the 'add other languages' option). Then if you click the Chinese (Taiwan), and go to Tools and then Properties, and then click the tab that says Keyboard Mapping, there should be an option there that says Hanyu Pinyin.

Click the little circle next to it, and you're good to go.


Any questions just ask me okay? ^_^

[Sakura]

你们都住在中国吗? <333

[-KaKashi-]

:O nice ill try that wen i get my dam internet back at home T_T thats alot but arigatou Auxu-chan ^^ and yh lynx u r a genius i gess :P

[-KaKashi-]

你们都住在中国吗? <333

Hoi whats this mean lynx :S can you put what it means in english after please your realy confusing me now lol

[-KaKashi-]

O yeh just remembered i think that we should start the lessons starting from next week what do yu guys think of that? im sure by then we would have had students aswel dont you think?:amuse also

If anyone wants to or wishes to join this thread you are free to do so at any time you want [B][U]BEFORE NEXT WEEK OR later ( depends:notrust ) so hurry and get into the list A.S.A.P!smile-big

[Stepped]

你们都住在中国吗? <333

You guys live in china too?

ni men dou zhu zai zhong guo ma?

Ni is you, and when a men comes after ni or wo it means it is plural. So...

Wo xi huan ni

(I like you)

Wo men xi huan ni

(We like you)

Dou is a bit like 'too' I guess. I am not too sure on this one, but if you want to say me too you can say "wo dou shi" or "wo ye shi" but I am not completely sure.

Zhu zai... Zhu is live and zai is in.

Zhong Guo is China. Middle Land/Country.

Ma is like a word that goes with a question.

[-KaKashi-]

whoa nice hey step

want to be part of this thread and teach us chinese? lessons start next week moneday i think if all teachers are here lol

[-KaKashi-]

Chinese lessons will be starting on Monday yes this monday guys and girls so get your selfs prepaired for it people are all free to join this thread so please send me a PM of your request to sign up to the CLFL ty:amuse

[Sakura]

Thank you, step. ^_____^

谢谢你帮我翻译!
Thank you for helping me translate.

[HakuPotter]

Oh now I can understand a lot of Chinese !
Well,I do really think I can teach,but only once a week,and I can also learn from others~

[blue_duck]

你们都住在中国吗? <333
我不住在中国，我住在曼城 ，英国。 。 。

[-KaKashi-]

Hey guys and girls today is the day we begin our lessons now all we need is to wait for the teachers and helpers to start us of with the basics such as introducing outselvs, saying hello, e.t.c so teachers send in one lesson please ^^ o yeh i would like Haku to start us off today please if not haku then the next teacher will ty ^^

[Sakura]

So, I've been PM-ed and I'm the teacher for today. WOWZIES.

Starting off, not to be conceited, but I have to tell you about myself, because technically, you don't want a stranger as a teacher.
I'm Laura, and my old username was Lynxe but now I'm Sakura. I live in China, and I'm taking Chinese as a full-course. I'm 100% Chinese and I know the easy way to certain things, and the RIGHT way. You can't just directly translate things from English. You have to learn it bit-by-bit.

You needa know pinyin [how to pronounce the words using a system of letters and sounds], and of course, the tones.
I will show you the tones using 1, 2, 3, and 4. So when I write pinyin, it would be like "shen3" for example.

Things to keep in mind:
你好 - hello [ni2 hao3]
你好吗? - how are you/are you good [ni2 hao3 ma1]
我叫______ - I'm called or My name is [simple] [wo3 jiao4]
我的名字是________ - My name is [formal] [wo3 de ming2 zi4 shi4]
我是______人 - I'm _______ [For example. 我是美国人 would mean "I'm American"] [wo3 shi4 ____ ren2]

So now, I'll teach the nationalities real fast.
美国 - USA [mei3 guo2]
中国 - China [zhong1 guo2]
日本 - Japan [ri4 ben3]
澳大利亚 - Australia [ao4 da4 li4 ya4]
加拿大 - Canada [jia1 na2 da4]
韩国 - Korea [mostly South Korea] [han2 guo2]
德国 - Germany [de2 guo2]
法国 - France [fa3 guo2]

My fingers are getting. That's all for now. PM me if you have questions.

[-KaKashi-]

hmm im still kinda confused how to say them lol the numbers are confusing me or are they suppose to be the characters sakura ?

[Sakura]

It is hard to explain. And I can only do that by letting you listen to the tones. There are 4 tones in the Chinese language, and online, they are represented with numbers.

Try finding a site where you can listen to how the tones sound like.
When I write "gao1" for example, you read "gao" first, then you see the "1" which is the tone, and then add it to the word.

[-KaKashi-]

Ooooooo i see now lol :amuse hmm i dont think i can find the site for the tones ~_~ uhm would i tbe any different with the numbers off?

[Sakura]

Then, it would be monotonous. And that wouldn't classify as Chinese.
Chinese is all about the tones. =D

[-KaKashi-]

awwwww dam it lol ok well im sure we can try to learn lol i got told that wei means hello? is that right?

[blue_duck]

awwwww dam it lol ok well im sure we can try to learn lol i got told that wei means hello? is that right?
I think this is usually on the phone.

[-KaKashi-]

huh what is on the fone wei?

[Kero-Chan]

Great job with the lessons, drop by the Chinese FC when you got time.

80%+ of our members are seniors/1k and/or have Full Bar Rep :)!

Check in aux's sig or someone, they have a link XD

[arklogic]

I got used to the hanyupinyin. Ive never been able to read/write traditional chinese, but im super fluent. Go taiwan :P

[Dango]

I'm bored. So here's a quickie.

Chinese. As Lynxe explained, it has 汉语拼音, han4 yu2 pin4 yin1, which is technically symbols and words for accurate punctuation and whatnot.

Here is.. a chart-graph thingie.
The first tone is a high, level pitch. Example: 踢 tī = kick
The second tone starts high and continues to rise. Example: 提 tí = lift
The third tone falls first, then rises. Example:体 tǐ = body
The fourth tone starts high and falls. Example: 替 tì = replace

The last tone looks like this. http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7942/nuom8.png
[ 女 ] : Girl; female.
It is a symbol aimed to avoid confusion. I will explain this later, after I find a website that can pronounce it.


For more examples, go to http://www.minmm.com/minc/classes.php and click on any of the lessons in Chinese Beginner II.

Also, there is the AEIOU factor.
shān
fēi
yīn
duō
jiǔ

Notice how the symbols are on different letters. Based on the famous A-E-I-O-U saying, you put the symbol on "a". If "a" isn't present, then you place the symbol on "e", and if "e" isn't present, you place it on "i", and so on.

Chinese spoken by locals in China and chinese spoken by people who live in other regions often sound different. This is because China speakers are well known for having a purer accent.


A little basics before I go; what to say when you meet somebody.
你好吗: ni2hao3ma.
How are you? [ the basic "hello" works fine, as well. ]

我很好, 谢谢你: wo3hen2hao3, xie4xieni.
literal translation: I'm fine, thank you.
Which technically means: I'm fine, thank you for asking.




Will type more later. I gotta go have lunch. :D

[-KaKashi-]

Ooo i c hehe :P well i hope to realy get something out of these lessons xD hey dango wanna be a teacher here aswel?

[-KaKashi-]

Great job with the lessons, drop by the Chinese FC when you got time.

80%+ of our members are seniors/1k and/or have Full Bar Rep :)!

Check in aux's sig or someone, they have a link XD

uhm hey i dont mean to be rude but i checked the chinese FC last time and well the requierments seem harsh and strict

(Are YOU Chinese?
This is a all Chinese FC. I noticed there were no Chinese FC and I decided to start one. The only way to join is you have to meet atleast 1 of the requirements below. Thanks .
Look Chinese.
Act Chinese.
Speak Chinese.
Know how to write Chinese.
Want to be Chinese.
Wonder what it is like to be Chinese.
Please, I cant stress this enough, you dont need to have any requirements, Its just there for fun!
If you meet any of the requirements then please, join.
We basically like to talk about whats going on in the Asain world right now, and just have fun.) it just confuses me a bit because i mean im not againts you or anything because i like chinese people and that i like anything lol but i want to join but i duno if i can :S

[AuxunauxiaNoname]

Lol... well, I've learned a long time ago that FCs don't mind if you don't meet their requirements and just post.

In fact I've posted in fanclubs where I was not really for it, but rather obviously against it. Didn't get neg repped though. Lol. ^_^ because I was able to express my dislike in a non-offensive manner.

And about the tones... let me give my own explanation of it:

1 - first tone is like going up a hill. Open your mouth and say aaa while at the same time trace your finger in the air from some random point and drag it up.

The tone follows the motion of your finger.

2 - second tone is like running along a flat field. Say aaa, and at the same time make your finger move from left to right horizontally. Again, let the tone follow the motion

3 - third tone is like a valley. It goes down and up. Trace your finger and make it go down and then up, like you're writing a V. Make the tone follow the motion.

4 - fourth tone is like going down a steep hill, or tripping and falling. It goes down. Trace your finger from some random point in the air and drag it down. Make the tone follow the motion.

And there you have it.

Does this make any sense at all?

[Sakura]

Somebody take over, Chinese is driving me nuts right now. :oh

[-KaKashi-]

well aux yes and no lol i no the finger part is confusing but i understand the tones a bit more now lol so where do we go on from now sensai?:P

[Stepped]

Oh, about the wei... Normally you only say that when you're talking on the phone. If you've noticed in animes, when they say Hi they say moshi-moshi. Sometimes I say wei! like I would say hey, but it is not in a greeting manner. Like you would say "Hey! I'm over here!", you wouldn't say "Hello! I'm over here!".

[-KaKashi-]

lol can u teach us then =3

[Inuhitari]

I've read this all stuff and i think is realy difficult But it sounds fun. Is there somone here how issn't chinees but speaks the language?
I'm gonna learn to okay?

(I'm learning spanish english and german at school I'm moved to sweden a half year ago so i'm also learning swedish and i hat 3 year france (also at school) I'm Dutch so I speak that language properly. My boyfrend is chinees (and cute) and he learns me a couple of words. My best friend studies russian and i help her with learning so i learn som russian to and i look a lot of anime's so i pik up a couple of word from that kinde of stuff to but i'm not sure if that counts.)

[HakuPotter]

Sorry I'm late.
Sakura you are a really good teacher.Thanks.
Now it's my turn.

Though I am not a native speaker, my spelling is not bad.And as a foreigner I'd love to practice my Chinese.

REVIEW(also introduce myself)
我是日本人,(wo3 shi4 ri4 ben3 ren2)
我叫Haku。(wo3 jiao4 Haku）
你们好!（ni3 men2 hao3)

Today I will tell u something about numbers.

0 零（ling2)
1 一（yi1）
2 二（er4)but sometimes it can be 两(liang2)
3 三 (san1)
4 四 (si4)
5 五 (wu3)
6 六 (liu4)
7 七 (qi1)
8 八 （ba1)
9 九 (jiu3)
10 十 (shi2)
Well ,these numbers are eazy to remenber and write.If you want to ,I'll tell you how to count from 0 to 100^_^(that will be a bit difficult)

First 第一(di4 yi1)
second 第二(di4 er4)
……
so, you put a “第” (di4)be4 the number.

*In some cases ,the pronounciation changes
for example,When you say 一个人(yi2 ge4 ren2)which means A Person,一 should be yi2.

That's all.Thanks.

[AuxunauxiaNoname]

Oh wow. I never learned the kanji for zero.

It's so much more complicated than the other numbers. Strangely enough.

^_^ Thanks!

And I have a wierd idea. But before you freak, hear me out.

Let's do it this way:

Learn Chinese through Japanese.

That way we can practically learn two languages at once.

And do it this way:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/ZHitokiwa/2ffsss.gif

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/ZHitokiwa/348.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/ZeHitokiwa/nejiten20_10.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/ZeHitokiwa/nikki257.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/ZeHitokiwa/nikki278.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/ZeHitokiwa/nikki479.png

Okay.

Now those are all Japanese doujishin.

They contain kanji... which we all know are actually Chinese characters.

And now we do it systematically pick out the kanji, and display it, and figure out what they mean.

[-KaKashi-]

O.O NANI!!! :cry this is getting harder lol but ill try still :P hey Haku-sensai think you can PM us a homework or something to do to hlp us with it:huh

[Sakura]

Thank you <3333 I never had that teaching ability. When I do put my heart to it, I start to blab.

I'll start the next lesson soon. If there's anything you want to know about in particular, I'm sure that you can just post it here and someone will help you answer it. ^^

[-KaKashi-]

ok ^^ ill w8 for nxt lesson

[Inuhitari]

(*Reads numbers*) Ehh.. 一 二 三 四 五 六 yi1 er4 san1 si4 wu3 liu4 Is that corect? It sounts weird when i say it out lout. :laugh

[waninoko5334]

well...i m new in this thread but i m not new to chinese...i learned 8 years of chinese...so i can say i m quite good in chinese...can read,write,speak well....but i only learn simplified chinese...i do know how to read traditioned chinese...but i donno how to write them...they are hard!! so many lines...:cry

[-KaKashi-]

lol well think you can teach us the simplified one then ?

[-KaKashi-]

"SIGH" i think ima close this thread now ~_~ its too hard to learn chinese T_T why couldnt it be like japanese T_____________________________T

Jaamata...............................:cry

[jplaya2023]

我也正在学习中文。
I'm studying Chinese now.

如果你愿意，
If you want,

我们可以一起学习！
we can study together.


what do them square boxes mean, they all look the same

*Shrugs*

[Stepped]

You need Chinese Character support. Search Chinese Character Language pack or something (no idea what it's called.)

[NightNinja123]

Eh, Japanese is sorta a rip-off of chinese. Some of the same looking characters are even pronounced similarly, and mean the same thing. For example, "火“ in chinese means fire. But it would appear that it also means the same in japanese. Water is a better example. 水 in chinese means water, and is pronounced sui. In japanese, it's spelled sui as in Suiton and also written the same way. However, the kanji like the one on Gaara's forehead is slightly different then the original I think. 爱 is the chinese way to write love.

[NightNinja123]

Eh, Japanese is sorta a rip-off of chinese. Some of the same looking characters are even pronounced similarly, and mean the same thing. For example, "火“ in chinese means fire. But it would appear that it also means the same in japanese. Water is a better example. 水 in chinese means water, and is pronounced sui. In japanese, it's spelled sui as in Suiton and also written the same way. However, the kanji like the one on Gaara's forehead is slightly different then the original I think. 爱 is the chinese way to write love.

[Kero-Chan]

Eh, Japanese is sorta a rip-off of chinese. Some of the same looking characters are even pronounced similarly, and mean the same thing. For example, "火“ in chinese means fire. But it would appear that it also means the same in japanese. Water is a better example. 水 in chinese means water, and is pronounced sui. In japanese, it's spelled sui as in Suiton and also written the same way. However, the kanji like the one on Gaara's forehead is slightly different then the original I think. 爱 is the chinese way to write love.
Japanese, and Korean were both based on Chinese.

Japanese used Chinese, Korean used Japanese.
Although I don't really care, sometimes its supposed to be.

Some Mexican words are the same as Cuban, or other languages relating to the "main" language. I think its good how they made a new language off a original, its a good idea.

[FUrYDARkNEsz]

err.... i wanna join!!hope its not to late to join

[Shadowblazehittman2037]

I know a few words which are:

Baishru/idiot
tru cua/you should die
tea war/kick me
war yao da cu ta/something about hitting someone to death
Gae War Chen/ Can i have some money

[XShinobi~ANBUX]

Wow, I think it is better off teaching beginners simplified chinese because it's SIMPLER. For example; Mouth in Traditional is Zui3 ba and the calligraphy is so hard (well, bigger). While in Simplified it is just Kou3, and the calligraphy is just a box.......see simple. This is what I mean: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/XNarutoXShinobiX/gfdghfh.png

Also, there are "rules" when writing chinese, like orders to write each word. I have scanned a paper I made because I was bored......anyways they go in order from which line to "draw" and which one takes priority over the first.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/XNarutoXShinobiX/Picture001-4.png

In chinese writing, most (if not all) characters start from top to bottom, left to right, and always build the foundation or frame of the character first, then work on the inside, then close it. These are just basics for starters.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/XNarutoXShinobiX/fgdg.png

I hope this helps, and that this wasn't already explained.

[SabakuNoGaaraIsMine]

Eh, Japanese is sorta a rip-off of chinese. Some of the same looking characters are even pronounced similarly, and mean the same thing. For example, "火“ in chinese means fire. But it would appear that it also means the same in japanese. Water is a better example. 水 in chinese means water, and is pronounced sui. In japanese, it's spelled sui as in Suiton and also written the same way. However, the kanji like the one on Gaara's forehead is slightly different then the original I think. 爱 is the chinese way to write love.
Gaara's LOVE symbol looks the same as the traditional chinese "ai"; 爱 is simplified Chinese. :)

[FUrYDARkNEsz]

I know a few words which are:

Baishru/idiot
tru cua/you should die
tea war/kick me
war yao da cu ta/something about hitting someone to death
Gae War Chen/ Can i have some money

woah...wer u learn ur chinese frm?the 1st is wrong,the others only typo smile-big haha so ur not really bad exept 4 ur pinyin

that^^ is for the english to see so u can read it,this is the real pinyin(pronounciation)

baichi-idiot
qu si-go die(haha i don know the translation for "you should die")
ti wo-kick me
wo yao da si ta-i want to hit him to death
gei wo qian-give me money

so he^^ isnt really wrong haha,jus only so that it can be read more easily by people who use alot of english

[-KaKashi-]

damn..............

[Inuhitari]

I'm confused now.

[SabakuNoGaaraIsMine]

I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but I'm Chinese, and if anyone needs help with speaking, I'd be glad to give lessons :), I'm not that good at writing though since I moved a lot and it's always hard finding chinese schools T__T

[Shadowblazehittman2037]

woah...wer u learn ur chinese frm?the 1st is wrong,the others only typo smile-big haha so ur not really bad exept 4 ur pinyin

that^^ is for the english to see so u can read it,this is the real pinyin(pronounciation)

baichi-idiot
qu si-go die(haha i don know the translation for "you should die")
ti wo-kick me
wo yao da si ta-i want to hit him to death
gei wo qian-give me money

so he^^ isnt really wrong haha,jus only so that it can be read more easily by people who use alot of english

Well i mostly learned it from friends and other people.

[xshihinx]

*raises hand* Sensei! Sensei!! I know Chinese!!! I can help teach!! And maybe we can learn a thing or two from eachother!!

[xshihinx]

I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but I'm Chinese, and if anyone needs help with speaking, I'd be glad to give lessons , I'm not that good at writing though since I moved a lot and it's always hard finding chinese schools T__T

Join the club, sok!! I stink at writing the character!! YOU SHOULD SEE HOW ATROCIOUS MY WRITING IS!! ^^

[sel]

Eh, Japanese is sorta a rip-off of chinese. Some of the same looking characters are even pronounced similarly, and mean the same thing. For example, "火“ in chinese means fire. But it would appear that it also means the same in japanese. Water is a better example. 水 in chinese means water, and is pronounced sui. In japanese, it's spelled sui as in Suiton and also written the same way. However, the kanji like the one on Gaara's forehead is slightly different then the original I think. 爱 is the chinese way to write love.

umm - thats like saying english and french is a ripoff of latin xD

fool

[-KaKashi-]

O_O PPLP PPL PLZ PLZ PLZ PM ME DAM IT well thats if u wanna teach here :P see ya

[-KaKashi-]

uhm...id like to say im gonna re-open this thread LOL more people are coming in and the more people the better we all learn isnt that right =3 well see ya till next time :amuse THIS THREAD IS RE-OPENED TO ALL PEOPLE WHO WANNA JOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FUrYDARkNEsz]

can i say again?ME!!!

[-KaKashi-]

O_o say me again what? i dont get you man be more specific ¬_¬

[mr_shadow]

您们好。 2008年我也要是学中文的。 但今天我中文很不好。

Hello everyone. In 2008 i'll also start learning chinese, but at the moment it sucks.

[-KaKashi-]

O_o i ment in english damn it ¬_¬

[Chee]

So what does 要, 但 mean? I know the rest, but it will help me with the order if I understand what each charcter means?

[//KirA.~]

Can I also join? i'd like to help out too.


要 means Want or wanting
但 means But

[xshihinx]

Ok, Kakashi!! ^^'

Sorry I had A LOT of school work to do!!!

Where would you like me to start with our lesson???

Peopl showing characters......

SHOW THE PIN YIN DAMNIT!! MY FRICKIN COMPUTER IS SO FREAKIN OLD!!!

By the way, I'm Jimen-sensei! A student sensei! XD I guess.

[-KaKashi-]

lol ASAP! ok :P

[Ketaikeon]

Wo zhongwen hai ke yi, ke shi wo hanyu pinyin bu tai hao. -.-

Just wondering- do you know any websites with lists of Chinese vocabulary? A whole list of those marker words (ge, ke, tiao, etc.) would be really helpful. When I say lists of vocabulary, I mean a list of certain words pertaining to a topic, like shui guo(fruits) or something. My main issue with Chinese is that I need to learn how to write the words, preferably in Traditional.

-is a bit amused at this thread-

我超級著急! xD My awesome quote. "wo cao ji zhao ji!"

[~E~]

I recently was taking a chinese class at my University and I seriously miss it! It a tough language to learn but I enjoyed the challenge. People looked me strange when I tell them that I was trying to learn chinese because they believe that it useless but I think not. I may not speak it at all or understand it but when I pick up words here and there from convo I feel proud because I actually know the meaning or topic a certain convo.


http://www.mandarintools.com/chardict.html
Here's a good site to finding a words. Also a program called Dim Sum helped me a lot with my hw.:)

[mr_shadow]

I recently was taking a chinese class at my University and I seriously miss it! It a tough language to learn but I enjoyed the challenge. People looked me strange when I tell them that I was trying to learn chinese because they believe that it useless but I think not. I may not speak it at all or understand it but when I pick up words here and there from convo I feel proud because I actually know the meaning or topic a certain convo.


http://www.mandarintools.com/chardict.html
Here's a good site to finding a words. Also a program called Dim Sum helped me a lot with my hw.:)

Xue zhongwen bu nan! Telling yourself that something is hard will only make it harder...

[BrokenDreams]

Hello! I would like to help if I can. I was born in China and came to the US when I was nine. I speak it at home...so I guess I'm okay at it.

Xue zhongwen bu nan! Telling yourself that something is hard will only make it harder...

That's so true. At my school they used to offer Chinese, but people assumed it was too hard and the course was canceled because too few people signed up for it.

[mr_shadow]

Chinese is grammaticly the easiest language i've come across. What's annoying at first is that you sometimes confuse words that sound almost the same.

[natwel]

I have a question, i'm learning japanese kanji now. I remember this guy learning mandarin, a lot of the symbols are the same as kanji, but the dialect is different. Do the chinese use kanji for EVERY word. Do they not have a substitute alphabet like hiragana for kanji symbles that children do not know yet. I'm guessing it'll be well hard to learn.

The japanese complain that we assume japan and china are very similar, well they both use kanji, and most of japan and it's culture is derived from china as it's right next to it.

and tenten neji 55, i love your ten ten picture.

[mr_shadow]

Yes, in china you use "kanji" for every word. It's not as hard as it sounds, as when reading roman letters you don't read it one letter at a time, but instead you see the word as a whole.

The only problem i'm having with the writing system is that it leads to language-conservatism. The characters were invented thousands of years ago, to describe the things that existed back then, and since then there have been few or no additions.

So if you want to talk about modern concepts you have to try and "describe" them using the existing inventory of characters. For example, you write "Fire wagon" instead of "train".


Some combinations are somewhat funny too. "Electric shadow" = Movie

[BrokenDreams]

very ancient Chinese originated from pictures drawn of things. Then it just evolved into what it is today. I personally think it would be harder to learn Japanese, considering you have to know all the Kanji, hiragana, katakana, or whatever. Aside from the traditional and simplified versions of Chinese, there isn't too many variations. smile-big

[iLOVEyoux]

hi im chn. and can write, read and speak chn. im a bit confused here. im confused tho..do you want to learn speaking in chinese or putonghua (mandarin?)

你好， 我的中文还可以。 这是因为我是香港人。我可以读，写还有听广东话或普通话但是我不是很明白，你们想学的是普通话 或广东话呢？

ps. sry i can onli type simplified version... cos i dont hv the traditional version T.T ...

[BrokenDreams]

I think it's Mandarin, since it's the dialect of Chinese that is most used and supposedly the standard thingy. I don't know how Hong Kong Chinese is different. Well, I only know, like, three dialects anyway. :P

[Motzeralla]

im confused tho..do you want to learn speaking in chinese or putonghua (mandarin?)



I think its ignorant to say that Mandarin isn't chinese and Cantonese is regarded as 'Chinese'. In reality, it is the other way round; most people assume Chinese is mandarin and will have to specify cantonese

[asuramakinaruto]

I just learn that the mandarin is one of the hardest langauge in the world

[-KaKashi-]

you think ¬_¬>_<

[BrokenDreams]

I just learn that the mandarin is one of the hardest langauge in the world

Every language is hard. I actually don't think Mandarin's very hard, but that's just me....and that it's my native tongue...so...yeah. But English is pretty hard too, if you think about it. :)

[fireofthewill]

Hey, I'm one of those chinese people who went to America at a very young age and now suck a lot at Chinese. Its impossible for me to speak chinese because I just can't think of the words. If you try talking to me in Chinese, I'll understand a lot of what you said but a lot of times I won't either. Without subs on a chinese movie, i'm pretty much screwed and will be totally confused. However, this knowledge is still locked in there because I used to be fluent, even a bit literate.

But now, my chinese skills are rapidly deteriorating and I need some help. I want to start watching some Chinese movies and tv shows to reboot my memory. Can somebody please recommend me some good Chinese movies I can watch in sites like www.crunchyroll.com . Other than that, if you guys have good ways for me to reboot my memory, that would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: If those movies could have english subtitles, that would be appreciated. I don't think I'm ready to watch chinese movies w/o subtitles later. Hopefully, I'll reach that step sometime in the future.

[sel]

you into MA flicks? i got a few that you might like

[fireofthewill]

not sure what MA flicks are, but if you like them, then plz tell me some. Right now, I'm just oblivious to Chinese media and really need some help. Recently, I started watching Chinese Paladin.

[Kiwichi]

Hey, I'm one of those chinese people who went to America at a very young age and now suck a lot at Chinese. Its impossible for me to speak chinese because I just can't think of the words. If you try talking to me in Chinese, I'll understand a lot of what you said but a lot of times I won't either. Without subs on a chinese movie, i'm pretty much screwed and will be totally confused. However, this knowledge is still locked in there because I used to be fluent, even a bit literate.

But now, my chinese skills are rapidly deteriorating and I need some help. I want to start watching some Chinese movies and tv shows to reboot my memory. Can somebody please recommend me some good Chinese movies I can watch in sites like www.crunchyroll.com . Other than that, if you guys have good ways for me to reboot my memory, that would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: If those movies could have english subtitles, that would be appreciated. I don't think I'm ready to watch chinese movies w/o subtitles later. Hopefully, I'll reach that step sometime in the future.

I used to live in CA, US. That was about four years ago. So I'm kinda like you. My Chinese really, really sucks..I'm currently living in Taiwan btw. SO! Since I live in a Chinese-speaking environment, it's natural for a person's Chinese to improve faster. Though, I can give you some tips....(my chinese teacher suggested these)

Listen to Chinese music, try to make out the words they're singing, and after that, look at the lyrics.

Find Chinese novels with phonetic transcription (that's the small little words next to the Chinese character) such as: ㄓㄨˋ 一ㄣ ㄈㄨˊ ㄏㄠˋ (that's the phonetic transcription)

Seriously, try to use Chinese in your daily life. (You don't have to speak it out, just try to think up the word in your mind.)

PM if you have any questions....(i'm a little woozy right now...can't think clearly. I think it's the coffee acting up.)

[fredrancour]

does anyone know anything about the origins of pinyin (romanized chinese)? it seems rather nonsensical to me. example: Cixi, taken from my history book. pronunciation guide gives this as (TSOO SHEE). Why not actually use the letters that are pronounced that way and romanize it as Tsushi, or something similar?

[ReikaiDemon]

Well, first, you have to learn bo po mo to learn how to read chinese, then it should be easier to learn how to speak it. If possible, read aloud from a novel in chinese, or translate passages of english in books to chinese, write it while reading out your writing. You could choose whether or not to download a series from d-addicts in the chinese dialect of your choice. They have english subs on some, so you can try to link what they say in chinese to the subs. You should have a pretty good grasp of it afterwards, though you may need to work on your accent somehow.

[mr_shadow]

does anyone know anything about the origins of pinyin (romanized chinese)? it seems rather nonsensical to me. example: Cixi, taken from my history book. pronunciation guide gives this as (TSOO SHEE). Why not actually use the letters that are pronounced that way and romanize it as Tsushi, or something similar?

Pinyin (litt: "write sound") was created by chinese linguists at the request of the government, in order to gain a means of "subtitleing" the native chinese characters. This enables the printing of character dictionaries (previously the only way of learning the pronouciation of an unknown character was to ask someone already familiar with it), as well as letting overseas chinese write their names in a way that can be read by foreigners in this globalized world. In short it was created for the same purpose as Hiragana/Katakana in Japan (the first japanese texts were written in Kanji only).

Prior to the 70-s, chinese was usualy romanized using the Wade-Giles system. This one was created in the 19th century (i think) by the two englishmen Wade and Giles. Their purpose was to publish chinese litterature in England, and thus they invented a set of spelling rules designed to give englishmen an idea of what a name sounded like.


For this reason, W-G is often the most intuitive of the two to a westerner, as everything is based on the english sounds of the letters.
W-G: Lao Tzu
Pinyin: Lao Zi

However, as everyone knows the meaning of chinese words change with the pronounciation. Therefore the chinese felt that W-G left too big a room for misunderstandings, as it did not accurately enogh distinguish between variations in pronounciation (Wade and Giles probably didn't bother, since their target audience had no clue about chinese grammar anyway).

Therefore Pinyin has alot of characters for something that sounds like the same sound. For example "Sh", "Ch", "X" and "Q" all sound like "sh" to a western ear. But to a chinese-speaker the difference is critical to understanding what someone is saying ("Xing" and "Qing" are not the same thing).

The reason for the seemingly odd choice of letters is because english only has one way of writing "sh". Luckily chinese lacks the sounds "ecks", "kyew" and "k" (when written as C). So the creators of Pinyin picked these left-over characters to represent the other 3 "sh"-sounds

[kantami]

i no some mandarin and i can write some characters but im sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better at cantonese ^^

[mr_shadow]

How come you can speak guangdong-hua but not write it? The characters are the same...

[Lutheneior]

Hi everyone I'm new here as you can see by my posts, anyways I was wondering if I was able to join. My Dad is gonna go to China and my Mum wants someone to go with him, because she doesn't want to go. I know a couple of Chinese words like hello, good thank you, my name is and thats about it.

[mr_shadow]

Hi everyone I'm new here as you can see by my posts, anyways I was wondering if I was able to join. My Dad is gonna go to China and my Mum wants someone to go with him, because she doesn't want to go. I know a couple of Chinese words like hello, good thank you, my name is and thats about it.

First of all make shure you have the pronoiunciation right (watch Kung Fu-movies and listen to how they speak). If you go around saying "Nay Haw" to everyone you will not only sound like an idiot, but probably not be understood either.

But good luck at learning! ^^

[Lutheneior]

Thanks for your help mr shadow, ill see if I can get a few movies out.
I got this CD from the library called In-Flight Mandarin Chinese, it tells you how to say all the words using native speakers. I tried that theory where you go to sleep with the CD on to see if I can learn it a bit better, I had a dreadful nights sleep. Only try that if you have comfitible headphones. We have quite a lot of Chinese people in my church, and they are teaching my Dad, so I might see if they can help teach me too.

Here are some sites for learning Chinese that I have come across.

"http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/chinese/" This is really good where I finally understood the tones properly.

"http://learnchinese.elanguageschool.net/" Haven't really been on this site much looks average to me.

"http://www.shambles.net/pages/learning/Mandarin/Mspeak/" This site is kinda like a web ring, there are some good sites coming off here.

I hope someone finds these helpful

Yours Truly Lutheneior

[specify]

Here are some basic verbs (no conjugations, yay!):

给 gei3 - give
吃 chi1 - eat
喝 he1 - drink
走 zou3 - walk
跑 pao3 - run
念 nian4 - read
读 du2 - read (used more in the study sense?)
看 kan4 - look/watch
说 shuo1 - say
讲 jiang3 - say (Yeah there's two, not much difference)
听 ting1 - listen
停 ting2 - stop
坐 zuo4 - sit
睡 shui4 - sleep

Nouns:

黑 hei1 - black
红 hong2 - red
黄 huang2 - yellow
白 bai2 - white
绿 lu:4 (lǜ) - green
蓝 lan2 - bllue
紫 zi3 - purple
灰 hui1 - gray/dust/ash
(usually adding a 色 (se4 - color) at the end of each color helps specify if you're describing something, especially if you're not too good with tones yet)

人 ren2 - person
狗 gou3 - dog
猫 mao1 - cat
水 shui3 - water
火 huo3 - fire
茶 cha2 - tea
车 che1 - car/vehicle
火车 huo3 che1 - train
房间 fang2 jian1 - room
学校 xue2 xiao4 - school
大学 da4 xue2 - university
高中 gao1 zhong1 - high school
初中 chu1 zhong1 - middle school/junior high school


Someone feel free to correct me, I didn't bother checking the pronunciation.

[weapons_rock_my_sox_off]

Eh, i'm fluent in Chinese so i guess i can give u really simple tutoring lessons...

[Kenji310]

Here are some basic verbs (no conjugations, yay!):

给 gei3 - give
吃 chi1 - eat
喝 he1 - drink
走 zou3 - walk
跑 pao3 - run
念 nian4 - read
讀 du2 - read (used more in the study sense?)
看 kan4 - look/watch
說 shuo1 - say
講 jiang3 - say (Yeah there's two, not much difference)
聽 ting1 - listen
停 ting2 - stop
坐 zuo4 - sit
睡 shui4 - sleep

Nouns:

黑 hei1 - black
红 hong2 - red
黄 huang2 - yellow
白 bai2 - white
绿 lu:4 (lǜ) - green
藍 lan2 - blue
紫 zi3 - purple
灰 hui1 - gray/dust/ash
(usually adding a 色 (se4 - color) at the end of each color helps specify if you're describing something, especially if you're not too good with tones yet)

人 ren2 - person
狗 gou3 - dog
猫 mao1 - cat
水 shui3 - water
火 huo3 - fire
茶 cha2 - tea
車 che1 - car/vehicle
火車 huo3 che1 - train
房間 fang2 jian1 - room
學校 xue2 xiao4 - school
大學 da4 xue2 - university
高中 gao1 zhong1 - high school
國中 chu1 zhong1 - middle school/junior high school


Someone feel free to correct me, I didn't bother checking the pronunciation.

I found it funny how you have some traditional and some simplified. Anyway I'll correct some of this for you, so I return a fully traditional back to you guys. If anyone has questions on Chinese or even a bit of Taiwanese, give me a pm ore add me on msn. Been living here for about 5 years, Taiwan that is. Oh and so you guys know, I'm Taiwanese and i'm not white. Not matter how white my skin looks, I'm yellow.

[mr_shadow]

I found it funny how you have some traditional and some simplified. Anyway I'll correct some of this for you, so I return a fully traditional back to you guys. If anyone has questions on Chinese or even a bit of Taiwanese, give me a pm ore add me on msn. Been living here for about 5 years, Taiwan that is. Oh and so you guys know, I'm Taiwanese and i'm not white. Not matter how white my skin looks, I'm yellow.

Remember in your Guomindang mind that the People's Republic has converted to simplified for everyday writing. And since most people who learn chinese do it out of interest in the People's Republic it only causes headaces to learn traditional as a beginner.

But there might be some Taiwan-fans out there too, so go right ahead.

[Captain Pimp]

I lost all my knowledge on mandarin and now I can't even speak cantonese fluently. It would've been better if I had just studied cantonese more ._.

[Lutheneior]

Just wondering are those Pimsluer audio things very good

[BrokenDreams]

I lost all my knowledge on mandarin and now I can't even speak cantonese fluently. It would've been better if I had just studied cantonese more ._.

Yeah, me too. Except I speak Mandarin, and now I can barely speak it very well. *sigh* My mom was too focused on getting me to speak English than making me remain fluent in Mandarin. :(

[ReikaiDemon]

Yeah, me too. Except I speak Mandarin, and now I can barely speak it very well. *sigh* My mom was too focused on getting me to speak English than making me remain fluent in Mandarin. :(
I think it's more of the prevalence of the language, you spend more time speaking english, therefore, to solve that, you should relearn it, and use it as much as possible. The brain decays programs that go unused for a long period of time.

[BrokenDreams]

I think it's more of the prevalence of the language, you spend more time speaking english, therefore, to solve that, you should relearn it, and use it as much as possible. The brain decays programs that go unused for a long period of time.

Yeah. But I don't usually have an occasion to speak Chinese. Except at home, but I rarely talk to anyone at home (actually, people rarely talk to me :()
I guess I'll try. :amuse

Happy Birthday by the way!
(late or on time)

[ReikaiDemon]

Yeah. But I don't usually have an occasion to speak Chinese. Except at home, but I rarely talk to anyone at home (actually, people rarely talk to me :()
I guess I'll try. :amuse

Happy Birthday by the way!
(late or on time)
Well, a good exercise would be to read aloud from a chinese book, any novel, any thing, like a cookbook or something. It'll keep your brain fresh if you do this like about an hour, or more everyday.

[BrokenDreams]

Well, a good exercise would be to read aloud from a chinese book, any novel, any thing, like a cookbook or something. It'll keep your brain fresh if you do this like about an hour, or more everyday.

Reading is my worst area. Wait, no. It's actually writing, but reading is pretty bad too. I'll probably spend more time talking in Chinese asking my mom what one word was pronounced than actually reading it. :laugh

Good ideas though. I'll try it. :P

[chinese]

我是一个来自广东省的中国人！
I am a chinese from GuangDong China！

[ReikaiDemon]

我是一个来自广东省的中国人！
I am a chinese from GuangDong China！
W00t! Yay GuangDong! GuangDong is the best :kloff

[Captain Pimp]

Yeah, me too. Except I speak Mandarin, and now I can barely speak it very well. *sigh* My mom was too focused on getting me to speak English than making me remain fluent in Mandarin. :(

aww, shucks. heh, yea..you should've studied on mandarin more rather than english. I find it easier to study english so it would've been best to learn that later after you can speak mandarin fluently T_T

[BrokenDreams]

aww, shucks. heh, yea..you should've studied on mandarin more rather than english. I find it easier to study english so it would've been best to learn that later after you can speak mandarin fluently T_T

Actually I was born in China and was already fluent in it. I just forget it after a long time of not using it. :( My stepdad says it's tiring listening to me say something in Chinese since first it barely makes sense and second there's always english entangled in it. AND I have to think about what to say for, like, ten minutes. :cry

[mr_shadow]

One thing that's not covered very well in my chinese textbook:

Can someone give me a list of common "sound effects" used to express emotions. Such as "oh! [thats right!]", "Ah...[that sucks]", "Mmm [i agree]".

People who know only one language might think that such sounds are universal, but they are actually somewhat different in different languages so that they sound natural in the vocal flora of the language.

Plus i'm mainly looking for the characters here...

[specify]

I found it funny how you have some traditional and some simplified. Anyway I'll correct some of this for you, so I return a fully traditional back to you guys. If anyone has questions on Chinese or even a bit of Taiwanese, give me a pm ore add me on msn. Been living here for about 5 years, Taiwan that is. Oh and so you guys know, I'm Taiwanese and i'm not white. Not matter how white my skin looks, I'm yellow.

I typed it in simplified using microsoft IME? It's probably your computer that converted it =P

[Captain Pimp]

Actually I was born in China and was already fluent in it. I just forget it after a long time of not using it. :( My stepdad says it's tiring listening to me say something in Chinese since first it barely makes sense and second there's always english entangled in it. AND I have to think about what to say for, like, ten minutes. :cry

ooo, that really sucks alot T_T Ehh, well...you're still young and all. you have plenty of time to catch up on chinese so you shouldn't be worried too much about it ^^

[BrokenDreams]

ooo, that really sucks alot T_T Ehh, well...you're still young and all. you have plenty of time to catch up on chinese so you shouldn't be worried too much about it ^^

I hope so. :(

[superwazn]

hey all, if you want to practice reading, i got a site with naruto trans.
its actually totally up to date (one time i got it there before the english trans was out, so..) : http://www.fzdm.com/manhua/1/
its pretty cool, even if you cant read 1/3 of it lol

[fallenxstar]

I can speak and write in Chinese, although not that well due to living in America too long :P I don't get to practice my Chinese.

我可以说和写中文，但是在两个方面，我都不太好 ;)
wo ke yi shuo he xie zhong wen, dan shi zai liang ge fang mian, wo dou bu tai hao.

I can speak and write in Chinese, but in both, I'm not too good. (that's a literal translation)

[Qiuben]

"的""地"and"得"
的+n.
地+v.
得+adj.
Can you understand?

[fallenxstar]

In addition to what Qiuben's saying, they're all pronounced the same "de" (in Mandarin)--but 得 could be with a second tone and 地 is also the same word for ground (di 4).

But for the last de, 得, I think the rule is a bit loose on that. I mean, you can say 得到 (receive), but 到 wouldn't exactly be considered an adjective...I always just use 得 when no others fit.

[fallenxstar]

Can someone give me a list of common "sound effects" used to express emotions. Such as "oh! [thats right!]", "Ah...[that sucks]", "Mmm [i agree]".

I just saw this. I'm pretty Americanized, so I don't know if all the sound effects are really what pure Chinese people would say. But...

ow = Ai ya! 哎呀! (my cousin made fun of me before for saying 'ow')

right! = dui! 对! Like, 对！我就说嘛。。。(I don't exactly know how to translate "就", if you haven't learned it before, but I think of "just" when I say it...though it doesn't really mean that)

Chinese people like using 嘛, 吧, 啦，啊，吗
ma, ba, la, a, ma?

Some people do, anyway. I think in Hong Kong, a lot of the people there like using "la" at the end of their sentences. It's just meant as an ending to sentences.

For the agreement thing, people are like mm. Not mm-hm (actually, I don't know, but I didn't hear that when I went to China). It's just like a lowering of your tone (like, the third tone, I guess). I don't think people would use that in writing though, so I don't think there's a character for it. In writing, it's just 对.

Anyway, I hope that helps :D

[bangbang297]

大家好，我来自中国上海，我也是NarutoFan,在网站上认识大家非常高兴，很荣幸看到各位学习中文热 情这么高，如果你们有兴趣学习中文或者练习口语，可以加我的msn：bangbang297@hotmai l.com

备注：我的英语口语一般，不过基本交流没有问题

Hi,guys:

I come from Shanghai of China.I love cartoon Naruto too.It's my pleasure for finding so many people here to like learning Chinese.
If anyone wants learning or training your Chinese both oral and written ,you can add my msn:
bangbang297@hotmail.com

PS:my spoken english is not very well,but it's no problem for me to exchange our minds with each other

[specify]

也是上海人吗？侬好！

Any more Chinese requests?

[Stepped]

"的""地"and"得"
的+n.
地+v.
得+adj.
Can you understand?

Cool. Now I know. In Mandarin it's all the same but in Cantonese they are different, so each time I write essays I have to think of which 'de' to use. Thanks.

[ReikaiDemon]

This might help the Mandarin practitioners
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEHVLuhQ9aU

Here's the search link (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chinese+lessons&search=Search)
Just pick out the dialect, and enjoy.

[urotsukidoji]

wei wei.. gao meng ar.. can anyone help me.. cos my mandarin is crap as .....
can you help me translate this pls 'zai jia kan shu' .. what does it mean..? o_O looking at somthing.. :| wel i said im crap..

[mr_shadow]

Can't say for sure without the tones, but the most probable would be: "Reading a book right now"

[urotsukidoji]

xiexie ni shi fu .. :)

[mr_shadow]

...Mei you ren ma? Duo shi dian wu hua (zai bu hui zi).

[曼珠砂华]

我就是个中国女孩!~hehe`下面我向大家提供NARUTO中人物的名字(中文)


NARUTO---鸣人--ming ren
SAKURA---樱(在中文里是一种美丽的花!) ying
KAKASHI---卡卡西 ka ka xi
SASUKE--佐助 zuo zhu
GAARA---我爱罗 wo ai luo
HINATA---雏田 chu tian

[mr_shadow]

我就是个中国女孩!~hehe`下面我向大家提供NARUTO中人物的名字(中文)


NARUTO---鸣人--ming ren
SAKURA---樱(在中文里是一种美丽的花!) ying
KAKASHI---卡卡西 ka ka xi
SASUKE--佐助 zuo zhu
GAARA---我爱罗 wo ai luo
HINATA---雏田 chu tian

天天呢。她名字一点中国的，Tenten和Tiantian

[ReikaiDemon]

天天呢。她名字一点中国的，Tenten和Tiantian
Could it be 點點(dian dian) also? :/

[mr_shadow]

Could it be 點點(dian dian) also? :/


Tenten's official name in Kanji is 天天. "Ten" means sky in japanese, proving that chinese and japanese have at least some words in common

[ReikaiDemon]

Tenten's official name in Kanji is 天天. "Ten" means sky in japanese, proving that chinese and japanese have at least some words in common
:huh And all this time, I though it was written like テンテン :oh

[makeoutparadise2]

guess what this means :)

Wo zhao dao pu bu zai chung ling li main
Wo ting dao chang laing de pu bu shen
Shu hen lui da duo hen rou raun
Wo zhua zai he bin
wen huan de wei fong wo bi shang hen jing
ting jain xiao niao zai ge chang
wo shui zhao le que luo ru shui zhong lao hu jiu le Wo

[makeoutparadise2]

Wei shen me bu ren shuo

[specify]

没有人对中文有兴趣好像太难学了 =（

[jay22098]

haha cantonese dubbing of naruto sucks b@lls!!!

[makeoutparadise2]

丞相祠堂何處尋？
錦官城外柏森森。
映階碧草自春色，
隔葉黃鸝空好音。
三顧頻煩天下計，
兩朝開濟老臣心。
出師未捷身先死，
長使英雄淚滿襟。

[GaryDAI]

I keep getting confused where to put each word -_- I'm so damn slow lol

[Nikitaa]

ni hao.
ni hao ma?
shuai ge :D

zhao ni ma!!! :evil ni ge tou!!!

special thanks to my chinese friend :)

[Sai]

Hello people, i'm a chinese too can join the group? :D

[smike007]

en..i from China,i can teach you some Chinese ,if you want to learn..my MSN is wuchunsheng01@hotmail.com

[xshihinx]

N-nya?
I'm back after a few-months vacation?

[xshihinx]

Ni hao! Wo kan dian shi. *is mesmorizes*

Naruto!

[yangxu]

丞相祠堂何處尋？
錦官城外柏森森。
映階碧草自春色，
隔葉黃鸝空好音。
三顧頻煩天下計，
兩朝開濟老臣心。
出師未捷身先死，
長使英雄淚滿襟。

What are you trying to pull off with a poem on RoTK? O___O

[makeoutparadise2]

it is a tribute to the sleeping dragon, Kongming, if you will 诸葛亮
Zhūgé Liàng

花間一壺酒。
獨酌無相親。
舉杯邀明月。
對影成三人。
月既不解飲。
影徒隨我身。
暫伴月將影。
行樂須及春。
我歌月徘徊。
我舞影零亂。
醒時同交歡。
醉後各分散。
永結無情遊。
相期邈雲漢

[GaryDAI]

I'm trying to learn to read now... Should I be learning Traditional or Simplified?

[specify]

Simplified is easier for beginners to remember.

[GaryDAI]

Is traditional most widely used though? I noticed all the music karaoke lyrics are in traditional

[makeoutparadise2]

Simplified is used in mainland china traditional is used in taiwan

[Kasumi 霞]

中文把。。。 我下个星期有考试啊。 没问题啊。。。

Ah I just started learning Chinese this year.... i'm not very good at it yet but I will continue practicing!
请问，你们帮我把？！好吗？xD

[Lovecancel]

well~~
so nice to see that so much ppl here wanna learn Chinese~
to me~~ Chinese charator is the cool part of Naruto too~(although we suppose to call it "jpnz~"
anyway~..I am A 100% Chinese~~
and wanna help out~^^

[xshihinx]

Watashi no something!!! NA NO DAH!

[Double Arts Sui]

Hi, is it possible to know if there is a Chinese dub in Mandarin for Naruto? Also, if there is a list of the translated Naruto names and seiyuus in Cantonese. Pretty please :wtf I pay in reps!

[Kyuriko]

你好。 我叫艾美答。

I would love to learn Chinese and wouldn't mind practicing here if anyone's willing to help. I just recently started learning. I plan on learning the characters as I learn new words because I made the mistake of not doing that when I started Japanese, and it took me a while to catch up. And especially since there are more characters. But I have the IME installed so hopefully if I use them often enough I will learn.

Kemono, someone did post a few of the character's names on the previous page here (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=8212439&postcount=146), but I don't know where to find the voice actors. Someone else on the previous page also mentioned that there was a Cantonese dub of Naruto.

[Dango]

Hi, is it possible to know if there is a Chinese dub in Mandarin for Naruto? Also, if there is a list of the translated Naruto names and seiyuus in Cantonese. Pretty please :wtf I pay in reps!
Cantonese is written in Chinese, right?

[yummysasuke]

Cantonese is written in Chinese, right?
Bsaically. But cantonese has some different grammar structures, spoken and written. And there are some more "odd" characters, you could say.

[GaryDAI]

Yikes I tried remembering both traditional & simplified :laugh My head feels like it's going to explode. I think I'll just stay with simplified for now

[Double Arts Sui]

Yes, I've seen the Cantonese dub (loved it!) and as I collect some seiyuus' names in different dubs, I wanted to know those, and the Chinese translation of names (team Gai over all)
Cantonese is quite differently accented as I got: I was puzzled on Lee addressing Gai as 'Laotzî', until I understood he meant 'Laoshi' :amuse

[HeliosR]

I'm pure Chinese, I speak Mandarin and five other dialects. If you want help, I'll be glad to assist.

[HeliosR]

Hi, is it possible to know if there is a Chinese dub in Mandarin for Naruto? Also, if there is a list of the translated Naruto names and seiyuus in Cantonese. Pretty please :wtf I pay in reps!

There are a few Chinese dubs of Naruto. There's the Mandarin version and the Cantonese version. Basically you can get the Mandarin version in Mainland China, Taiwan or even Malaysia and Singapore. The Cantonese version, you'd have better luck in Hong Kong. The Mandarin version is very widespread, though, and it's not too expensive if you scrounge around.

As for translated Naruto names, I'll have to ask around a bit. I'll get back to you.

[GaryDAI]

Anyone know some good elementary level books?

[specify]

Bsaically. But cantonese has some different grammar structures, spoken and written. And there are some more "odd" characters, you could say.

Also most newspapers and some songs are written in mandarin (grammar and words) in places like Hong Kong.

edit: But are obviously read by their cantonese counterpart sounds.

[Sasuke-Clan]

俺也是中国人哟~~
lol im chinese to btw. =3

[makeoutparadise2]

Ni hao! ni jiao shen ma? Ni shi guan dong ren?

[Sasuke-Clan]

Ni hao! ni jiao shen ma? Ni shi guan dong ren?
你好啊，我叫莉。我是北京人，不是广东人。你呢？
hey, im Li, im from beijing not from guangdong, u?

[makeoutparadise2]

Wo shi Mei guo ren. Wo BaBa shi Guandong Ren :)

我叫: 李 家 栄

[Sasuke-Clan]

Wo shi Mei guo ren. Wo BaBa shi Guandong Ren :)

我叫: 李 家 栄
哇噻！真棒耶！那你妈妈就是美国人啦？呵呵，真幸福，是个混血儿！！我做梦都想做混血儿！ :nod

[makeoutparadise2]

LoL dui wo ma ma mei guo ren.

是纯净的血液愿望混合
是混血儿愿望纯净的
这真实地是滑稽的

[aznjj]

wo ma ma he ba ba shi zhong guo ren, wo zhu zai mei guo

my mom and dad is chinese, (so I am too appeaently,lol,) I live in America.

Up until the last year or so, I didn't know how to write.

[makeoutparadise2]

hey me nither!

[Conan=Edogawa]

大家好
我是中国人
为此而自豪
我的家乡 厦门 美丽的地方

[曼珠砂华]

大家好..我也是中国人!
我很爱我的国家!中国真的很美.

[Inarigo]

i can speak some cantonese but not really any mandarin. i spoke a lot of cantonese before but now im forgetting. :cry

[Magpie]

Wo ye shi guang dong ren, wo zai guang zhou zhu shen.
( I am Cantonese, I am born in the city of Guangzhou )

My stupid bootlegged Windows (brought in China btw) won't let me get the Chinese language pack working.

[blue_duck]

Hi, would appreciate help with how to say "I have been going for 8 years" >.< my mind's gone blank.

[mr_shadow]

Ha ha, zai mei you xue de ren ma? Ni men dou jiu shuo shuo hua.

[specify]

Hi, would appreciate help with how to say "I have been going for 8 years" >.< my mind's gone blank.

Going doing what?

[makeoutparadise2]

that would be wo you ba nian I don't know the "going for" part

[Sasuke-Clan]

大家好..我也是中国人!
我很爱我的国家!中国真的很美.
呵呵，我也是中国人哟~嗯嗯，中国是挺美的！我也爱我的国家！！！！！！！<333

[ReikaiDemon]

I found a cantonese dub of Naruto :D (http://www.youtube.com/user/IlikeDramaotherwistv)

[makeoutparadise2]

Wow Cool___

[Inarigo]

ill watch it later lol.

[makeoutparadise2]

no you won't LoL you should its good :nod

[Inarigo]

yes i will, in fact ill watch it now.

[makeoutparadise2]

Yay!!!!!!! :woo :dance

[Inarigo]

ho ti/ nice to watch

[ramenx3]

ho ti/ nice to watch

AT LAST!! T_T

cantonese! i thought everyone here that knew chinese spoke mandarin...

nay ho ma? (:

[Kero-Chan]

Real surprised no one here is joining the chinese fc :(.

Oh, by the way, hey Aux :).

[Inarigo]

AT LAST!! T_T

cantonese! i thought everyone here that knew chinese spoke mandarin...

nay ho ma? (:

hi hong ho le I'm slowly forgeting my Cantonese. :cry

[Tatsuki]

may i ask, which is the more popular, catonese or mandarin? (like which is more spoken in the world?)

i feel like learning chinese because it's a lovely language, i also have many friends from beijing.

would the characters in chinese be the same as kanji in japanese?

because my mother told me they stole/borrow it from the chinese. i know nothing about history so i wouldn't know. XD

[Kero-Chan]

may i ask, which is the more popular, catonese or mandarin? (like which is more spoken in the world?)

i feel like learning chinese because it's a lovely language, i also have many friends from beijing.

would the characters in chinese be the same as kanji in japanese?

because my mother told me they stole/borrow it from the chinese. i know nothing about history so i wouldn't know. XD
Both are used.

It doesn't matter about the language, its just the writing if you want to speak to the people who speak both languages.

Although they have different types of speaking, they have the same writing.
Beijing would be mandarin by the way.

Japanese used words, parts, from the chinese language and that is why lots of japanese words and stuff like that are part of the language.

[ramenx3]

may i ask, which is the more popular, catonese or mandarin? (like which is more spoken in the world?)

i feel like learning chinese because it's a lovely language, i also have many friends from beijing.

would the characters in chinese be the same as kanji in japanese?

because my mother told me they stole/borrow it from the chinese. i know nothing about history so i wouldn't know. XD


The Japanese language originated from the Chinese language. And they used a lot of our writing too. :( The kanji for the word love is the exact same in both languages. Not all kanji are the same, though... some of them have completely different meanings even though they are the exact same.

And Mandarin is the most popular form of verbal Chinese, since it is the official language of China. But Cantonese is spoken in a good majority of China as well.

Hope I helped! :D

[ENDIMION]

whoooo! i speak cantonese too! :D

The Japanese language originated from the Chinese language. And they used a lot of our writing too. :( The kanji for the word love is the exact same in both languages. Not all kanji are the same, though... some of them have completely different meanings even though they are the exact same.



you should be flattered that koreans and japanese borrow the chinese language! :P it's just like how english borrowed words and things from spanish, french and latin.


anyway, koreans and japanese people were just chinese in the beginning ;p

[ENDIMION]

oh yes, and kanji often have multiple sounds/meanings. the kanji that i know in japanese sometimes have similar sounds to that in chinese. but i don't know much since i've only taken a beginner's course! :D

[Tatsuki]

Thank you ramen and kero ^ ^!!

[luna_Jang]

anybody wanna learn Chinese ?
I'm glad to teach~
hee hee~*^-^*

[Tatsuki]

In 2 hours, I learn a little bit of the many tones in cantonese and mandarin, and how to introduce myself and family.
My pc is Japanese, but it is able to type in other east asian languages O.o.

你好。我叫特蕾萨。你说英文吗？
nǐ hǎo. wǒ jiào tè lěi sà. nǐ shuō yīngwén ma?

Is this right? XD
(scold me if it's wrong)

[春野 サクラ]

@luna_Jang

can you teach me please? XD

im part chinese but dunno how to speak mandarin or cantonese.. shame on me >.>

[luna_Jang]

@春野　サクラ
嗯～当然可以啦～
em,em~of course ~
你有中国血统吗？太好了～
you are part Chinese? great~
不幸的是我的英语比教糟糕～
but my English is poor~
也许有的时候我可能不太明白你说的话～
maybe sometime I cannot understand what do you say...>.<
同样我也不太精通粤语～
and also I'm not quite good at cantonese~
惭愧吖～ T_T
too shame... lol
但我会尽力回答你的问题的～　^-^
but I'll answer all your questions if I can~

[GrimaH]

I could help with teaching Chinese.
I don't know where to start though. XD

[Kero-Chan]

We should just have this thread in the chinese fc thread lol.

We need more people there, and we have to be like, the top 5 language/race thread..

so lets do it!

[Inarigo]

....hi or yes

[Inarigo]

anyone know what sashun is in english?

[luna_Jang]

anyone know what sashun is in english?

you are sure you write it correctly?
(你确定是这么写的喔？)
why I can't make it out...
(为什么我没看懂啊…)
:cry

[春野 サクラ]

@luna_Jang

yeah.. part chinese but have no idea how to speak mandarin of chinese..

umm.. can you teach me how to introduce myself? (mandarin or cantonese) :)



can you please put a link to chinese threaD? my pc is kinda slow... >.<

[Inarigo]

you are sure you write it correctly?
(你确定是这么写的喔？)
why I can't make it out...
(为什么我没看懂啊…)
:cry

im just trying to pronounce it. I can't type in Chinese chracters. (I can't even read them.) :sweatdrop

[Tatsuki]

@Inarigo:
I realise that chinese isn't anything like Japanese.
You have to write the correct pinyin in english for it to mean something. Cause the diff tones mean different words right?

(hah, im just learning...>.>;)


@luna jung:
does this look right to you? i typed in mandarin >.>
你好。我叫特蕾萨。你说英文吗？
nǐ hǎo. wǒ jiào tè lěi sà. nǐ shuō yīngwén ma?

[Inarigo]

darn. oh well. XD I don't even know how to type different accents.

[Tatsuki]

Google and Download NJStar Chinese. It helps you to type in Chinese if your computer don't have it. Or if you only can speak/write pinyin (english letters), it can translate them to chinese characters, as long as you choose the right tone thingies (lol).

Like if you type "ma" it gives you the different tonals. And you have to choose what you want to make your sentence:

first few were:

mā 妈 = mum

mǎ 马 = horse

ma 吗 = sentence particle

[it makes more sense when you install it lool]

[luna_Jang]

@ Inarigo

sorry I can't quite understand 'sashun'... lol~~
(对不起我不是很懂那个词是什么~~555~~我好失败啊~当然这是悄悄说的，嘻嘻，你们应该看不懂的，自 我调侃一下也没关系啦，咔咔)
but hope that you can use the method which Tatsuki told us,
(但是如果你能用Tatsuki说的那个方法把它打出来)
then I think I can know what do you mean~ ^.^
（我应该就能认识啦！这是必然...这也是悄悄说的，嗯）
I'm so sorry~~~ lol

@ Tatsuki

great!your chinese is not bad!
--你好。我叫特蕾萨。你说英文吗？
--nǐ hǎo. wǒ jiào tè lěi sà. nǐ shuō yīngwén ma?
you typed it totally correctly!
(I think I've made some serious mistake in English gramma...>.> just score me)
and as you know,
Chinese is acturely quite different from Janpanese.
*and I'm also learning Janpanese now,just a beginner*
especially in pinyin as you said.
so vocabulary seems to be the most important thing.
cauze gramma of Chinese is easy.
so if you wanna improve your Chinese,
the first thing to do is to enlarge your vocabulary.
(hope that I have expressed myself well...)
and がんばってください！加油吧！^.^

@ 春野　サクラ

excuse me that I'm not quite understand what does "put a link to chinese threaD" mean.........(I am mad....)
maybe you meant to put a link to a Chinese web??
sorry sorry my english is so poor >.<
And you can introduce yourself as sentence following:
(ah, i cannot type pinyin, so just use letters to sign the
pronunciation)
你好！[ni hao] {means:hello}
（or 你们好[ni men hao] {means:hello every one} if you are introducing youself to more than one person）
我叫 春野樱。[wo jiao chun ye yin] {my name is sakura}（I don't know your true name, so use your ID）
很高兴见到你们。[hen gao xing jian dao ni men] {so glad to meet you}
希望和你们成为朋友。[xi wang he ni men cheng wei peng you] {hope to become good friends with you}
================================================== =
if you wanna more sentences to introduce,
please type them down,
in english is okay.
then i will translate them for you,
thank you ^.^
================================================== ==

[Madao]

may i ask, which is the more popular, catonese or mandarin? (like which is more spoken in the world?)

i feel like learning chinese because it's a lovely language, i also have many friends from beijing.

would the characters in chinese be the same as kanji in japanese?

because my mother told me they stole/borrow it from the chinese. i know nothing about history so i wouldn't know. XD

Well, I would said is Mandarin since it's the official language in China. All of the Chinese in the world said that. For Cantonese, It is probably the second popular dialect. As for me, I also spoke a dialect in the Fujian/ Taiwan region which known as Ban Lam Gu(闽南语）. In South East Asia, We called that Hokkien dialect(Hokkien is Ban Lam Gu"s pronociation for Fujian(福建））

As for chinese character, there some similarity in kanji. But there are also some characters are only exist in Kanji/ Chinese.

By the way, this is my first time in this forum. And my english is a little bit sucks. So, 多多指教！！！

[Tatsuki]

^ Thank you. And your English is not bad. For most people, our problem with English is grammar.

@luna_jang:
Yay! Thank you. I'll continue to learn mandarin well~
Your Japanese is pretty good too, and your english has improved XD

[Madao]

@ Inarigo
我好失败啊~当然这是悄悄说的，嘻嘻，你们应该看不懂的，自我调侃一下也没关系啦，咔咔).. ......



很抱歉，我看得懂这一句。人都有失败的时候，自我调侃一下是没关系啦！
================================================== =========
Ok, just curious. What kind of question that you guys got in Chinese? The pronouciation? The grammar? The Vocabulary? You can feel free to ask. I'll try my best to give you guys the best answer.

For vocabulary, Please! I mean PLEASE! write the proper Han Yu Pin yin. If possible, explain what kind the situation that the word came out or give the whole sentences. I know this is mean for the beginners but I have no confident in guessing the word since Chinese Mandarin had 4 different tones in each pronouciation of the word.

By the way, it is better if you have any copy of the words, you can even post the traditional chinese character. I'm sure in that way, you can get your answer way more easier...

[luna_Jang]

@ Madao
OMG!!!!
好感动啊～～热泪盈眶～～lol
这里能碰到中国人真是太开心啦！！（不要告诉我你不是- -||）
那我如果英文不会可不可以请教你呢？
先谢一个～哈～

[makeoutparadise2]

Ni Hao everyone :bow

please help me and vote for my good friend Meng De here: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=250626&page=9Please I 叩頭 to you all to please vote for him he loves the chinese Culture and our history we Asians must stick together :bow

[Madao]

@ Madao
OMG!!!!
好感动啊～～热泪盈眶～～lol
๢