What do you give?

[Kage Iwa]

What would you do if you had to give a person one of the two choices below.

Truth & Sorrow

Lies & Hope



Would you give someone the truth and let them live in sorrow or would you give them lies and let them live with hope?

[Mashed Potato]

i would give 'em lies and sorrow

I AM SO NICE!

[Blue]

Lies and hope.

Hope can transform the lies into truth.

[Uzumaki^Naruto]

The truth is importaint ... well i'll try truth and hope ... after all there is always hope , depends on what angle you are looking from ...

[Rurouni]

Truth and Sorrow.

A person deserves to know the truth. By overcoming the sorrow you feel from the truth, you become a stronger person.

[rubbereruben]

Lies and hope.

I wouldn't want to take hope away from people.

[Lacus Clyne]

Truth & Sorrow. People deserve to know the truth. And like Rurouni said overcoming sorrow can make you stronger.

[xxShikamaruxx]

Truth & Sorrow

[Lunasakuramoon]

truth and sorrow. cuz if they find out that u lied, they'd never forgive u.

[nigggs]

truth and sorrow, but i would be tempted to use lies and hope. hope is something i would never wanna take away from anyone.

[mrberns]

Always the truth, wether it leads to sorrow or hapiness. I just cant lie to people in general, it doesnt do anything for someone if you give them false hope that will eventually lead to sorrow.

[liminosse]

if thats the choice id be an a-hole and not give them crap, let them figure it out on their own, its easier that way sometimes, then again, truth OR lies, there is ALWAYS hope!! :)

so if your asking because you need to tell someone important to you something, go with truth AND hope ;)

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

lies and hope, off course

why would you tell someone the truth when you know it would destroy their lives, let them live in ignorance of it makes them happy, after all IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

EDIT: oh and another thing i see people here saying that whether its truth or lies there is always hope, well thats not the topic, its just truth and sorrow or lies and hope, choose one and please stay on-topic.

[davids2]

id ask if they want the truth or the lies then id tell them what they asked for.

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

id ask if they want the truth or the lies then id tell them what they asked for.

well if you ask someone, if he wants the truth or lies and he asks for lies and you give it to him, he will know that they are lies and that the truth is the opposite of the lies you just mentioned so in other words, the person's reaction would be the same as if you told him the truth in the first place.

[Crucifixation]

Truth and Sorrow.

Why? Because nothing's worse that living in someone else's lie. I would rather die than be kept from the truth.

[I ARE 1031]

I would say truth and sorrow because if you lie and they have hope it's empty and when the lie is exposed they will have even more sorrow.

[Mashed Potato]

but being serious, uhh lies and hope, cuz iun wanna decrease ppl's self-esteem, it makes me sad :sad

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

Truth and Sorrow.

Why? Because nothing's worse that living in someone else's lie. I would rather die than be kept from the truth.

that's selfish.

You tell him the truth:
- He is unhappy
- You are happy

You tell him a lie:
- He is happy
- You are unhappy

think about other people too, why destroy an other life in order to keep yours comfortable.

[dbcomix]

Lies and hope.

Hope can transform the lies into truth.

thats what i was thinking, better happy than dead right?

[Crucifixation]

that's selfish.

You tell him the truth:
- He is unhappy
- You are happy

You tell him a lie:
- He is happy
- You are unhappy

think about other people too, why destroy an other life in order to keep yours comfortable.
Yes. From your point of view. But to me, like someone else have stated, it'll simply hurt more if he or she were to find out the truth thereafter. Nothing's more cruel than to make one full of hope and happiness, only to bring it down and shatter it. I don't (often) get happy when I destroy one's life. I am unhappy either way, so I would rather tell him/her the truth. The higher one climb, the harder one falls.

It's cruel to make someone unhappy, to you. To me, it's more cruel to make him/her your puppet, blinding him/her with lies and false hopes. It's not a good thing to be anyone's fool. It hurts.

This is strictly in my own opinion, and I do not wish for a flame war to start. So..shall we just adhere to our own point of view? :)

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

Yes. From your point of view. But to me, like someone else have stated, it'll simply hurt more if he or she were to find out the truth thereafter. Nothing's more cruel than to make one full of hope and happiness, only to bring it down and shatter it. I don't (often) get happy when I destroy one's life. I am unhappy either way, so I would rather tell him/her the truth. The higher one climb, the harder one falls.

It's cruel to make someone unhappy, to you. To me, it's more cruel to make him/her your puppet, blinding him/her with lies and false hopes. It's not a good thing to be anyone's fool. It hurts.

This is strictly in my own opinion, and I do not wish for a flame war to start. So..shall we just adhere to our own point of view? :)

off course you're right, there are times the truth is the only way out, cause if you would tell a lie, the truth would be bound to come out.

but there are cases where you just could keep lying, not telling it, just keeping it for yourself and make that person happy.

you always have to look both ways, but always make sure lying is the first option to take, if it seems impossible, then tell the truth.

[Crucifixation]

Yes, of course. If it's not necessary for him/her to know the truth, there'll be no point in telling so and make his/her life a wreck for no apparent reason. It all depends on the situation, actually. If someone were to ask me something that I knew that they didn't, and would concern their happiness, I'll tell the truth, of course. What would hurt more? Knowing that you've failed the maths test, or knowing that you've failed the maths test and have been lied to and treated like a fool?

Personally, I feel that we don't need each other's protection. It's truly sad if you were to live protected, seperated, and sheltered from the world in your private cataclyst, spun by others. Just to put emphasis on my point, it is painful to know that you've been treated like a fool by others.

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

Yes, of course. If it's not necessary for him/her to know the truth, there'll be no point in telling so and make his/her life a wreck for no apparent reason. It all depends on the situation, actually. If someone were to ask me something that I knew that they didn't, and would concern their happiness, I'll tell the truth, of course. What would hurt more? Knowing that you've failed the maths test, or knowing that you've failed the maths test and have been lied to and treated like a fool?

Personally, I feel that we don't need each other's protection. It's truly sad if you were to live protected, seperated, and sheltered from the world in your private cataclyst, spun by others. Just to put emphasis on my point, it is painful to know that you've been treated like a fool by others.

maybe not painful, they could become happy knowing that they where lied to, because other persons loved them and just wanted to see them happy, maybe that could ease their pain. (in a way :p)

[Chas3265]

I would just tell them the truth and sorrow. Thats how it is so deal with it.

[Athelstone]

"If spring follows winter,
If a rainbow follows the storm,
If morning follows the night,
Then happiness must follow sorrow."

After experiencing the negative (but only short-term) sorrow, they would eventually come to terms with it, becoming more complete, and eventually happier.

[Inactive Uzumaki]

Truth and Sorrow. Ideally, the person would then take action to turn the sorrow into happiness, and things would get better. "No, the economy is not improving." "Damn, well, we need to change our spending habits."

Lies and hope only enable passive responses. Ignorance may be bliss, but it doesn't help anyone. "Yes, the economy is doing great." "Cool, let's hope it stays that way."

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

Truth and Sorrow. Ideally, the person would then take action to turn the sorrow into happiness, and things would get better. "No, the economy is not improving." "Damn, well, we need to change our spending habits."

Lies and hope only enable passive responses. Ignorance may be bliss, but it doesn't help anyone. "Yes, the economy is doing great." "Cool, let's hope it stays that way."

Well there still is a difference in the development of a company in wich the truth is absolutly needed in order to keep the company growing and the development of a personality in wich the truth can be hidden from that person in order to make him or her happy, so in this last case ignorance would be bliss. :)

[imchemist]

Hope and truth...although I don't believe that there is such thing as truth...

[akuma no omoigakenai saku]

I'd plead the 5th (or whatever similar law we have in Canada, but has never in the history of our Charter been referenced in pop culture, so no one knows what it's called).

Let someone else make that call.

I didn't see nothing.

[Kakashi_Love]

Truth & Sorrow, when they learn the truth, they will learn to cope and it will no longer be sorrow.

[Chamcham Trigger]

Truth and sorrow. I would hate it if I found out that I was living a lie, so I would not wish the same on anyone else.

[Aldredian_Sahn]

What would you do if you had to give a person one of the two choices below.

Truth & Sorrow

Lies & Hope

It's interesting and I think it might depend on the situation. I would be more inclinded to go with truth & sorrow because I like truth, but there was this one war movie (can't remember the name) where a Jewish father and 5 year old son was placed in a Nazi camp and the father lied to the son saying that it was just a big game and well at the end of the movie it turned out okay. I don't think that always happens in real life. I'd say in some situations it's okay, but I would go with the truth for most.

[Rock_Lee]

Truth and Sorrow

When giving Lies & Hope to someone you only buy time, 'cause sooner or later the truth will be revealed. This would only cause more pain to the person, because he would realize that the hope he had, was false hope after all.

And if you know the truth, you can always try to change something.

[SpiritedLoser]

Truth and Sorrow

Everyone has the right to know the truth and the truth hurts, but they'll recover overtime and gain hope again

[princesstaco]

Truth and sorrow.

(that's at least what I'd want to recieve anyways.)

If you know the truth, you can change yourself to overcome the sorrow. If you live by false hope every action you make will be based on lies.

[CrazyMoronX]

LOVE AND PEACE!

Well we all know the truth will set you free, so I'd go with the truth, and then when they run away crying, I will be free from them forever... so it's true afterall.

[Jones]

nothing, i'd just kill them because truth and hope are impossible to give, you have to earn them.

[Jef88]

Truth & Sorrow live is hard c'est la vie :)
but lying and afterwords nowing the truth is even wours (you cant lie for ever)

[bigbird]

Truth and Sorrow all the way man. And if they can't get over it, it's called therapy.

[Fuuma Kotaro]

i would lie and give them pain and at the end i would tell the truth... but because the truth is so secret i would need to kill that person...Very clever

[Ryuhoukills]

to give a person lies is to give them both hope and sorrow 'cause sooner or later they'll learn the truth. but if i had to make a choice, it'd be truth and sorrow 'cause i like to watch people squirm and cry in agony and i also like to take away hope from them as well. it is so funny to me.

[Eden Prime]

Lies and Hope. Hope may very well be the one thing that keep religious people and people who secretly admire someone, sane.

[EternalHatred]

I would find the option beyond. I would first give Lies & Hope, then return and tell them the Truth and give them Sorrow. Why? Because I'd have to make 'them' realise to not understand as what you were told is the truth. So in return, I've given hope.

[Left_Right]

Deceving someone is not my farovite thing to do, so I'd give them the truth and hope they understand the situation. Afterwards, if they still won't accept the truth, give them lies and hope.

[Eden Prime]

I would find the option beyond. I would first give Lies & Hope, then return and tell them the Truth and give them Sorrow. Why? Because I'd have to make 'them' realise to not understand as what you were told is the truth. So in return, I've given hope.

I like that.:wink

[Merlin]

I dont believe there is such a situation in which I could think of two so Yin-Yang answers, I`d give em neither so that they could reflect in silence, make up their own minds and leave me alone. A cigar is meant for one man alone after all XD

[zeoblade]

What would you do if you had to give a person one of the two choices below.

Truth & Sorrow

Lies & Hope



Would you give someone the truth and let them live in sorrow or would you give them lies and let them live with hope?

Definately truth and sorrow. I couldn't live with myself if I gave my friend lies and hope. If my friend cannot deal with it, I'll carry my friend on my back until my friend is strong enough to do it by his or herself.

[lekki]

Truth and Sorrow. They know what is truly going on now and can change the sorrow to happiness because they understand where it came from.

While hope and lies can work and hope does change some things, it can also be harmful.
Telling a feather weight boxer there's a chance he can beat a heavy weight is pretty much lies and hope. He's about to get killed but he doesn't know it. He thinks he may win that 25 million dollar cash prize. He's happy but doesn't know he's about to die.

Truth and sorrow means he knows he can't win that cash prize and is sad about it but he knows that he has to bulk up and put some more power behind his punches if he wants to beat the heavy weight guy next time and maybe win that cash prize. He also avoided death:)

[EternalHatred]

I like that.:wink
Thank you. I appreciate your appreciation towards my words.

[zeoblade]

I would find the option beyond. I would first give Lies & Hope, then return and tell them the Truth and give them Sorrow. Why? Because I'd have to make 'them' realise to not understand as what you were told is the truth. So in return, I've given hope.

You could just tell each after the other immediately otherwise they'll do something unwise in the time frame it takes you to tell the truth

[NarutardKK]

I follow the Golden Rule on this one, so I'd have to say Truth and Sorrow.

I would much rather my gf tell me the most horrible news in the world and me feel bad because it, rather then her lie and hide within herself.

And that way the two people can try and find a way to help rather then leaving the person alone to figure it out when they think there's nothing left to do.

Friends and Love is more important and powerful then lies. Knowing that someone told you the truth the first time makes a world of difference.

[zeoblade]

Lies and Hope. Hope may very well be the one thing that keep religious people and people who secretly admire someone, sane.

Took the words right out of my mouth haha!

[Chintsuzai]

Truth and Sorrow... a person deserves to know what's going on than being lied to..

[EternalHatred]

You could just tell each after the other immediately otherwise they'll do something unwise in the time frame it takes you to tell the truth
But immediately basically gives them the idea I am 'joking' about his/her situation (whatever it is). Also, what exactly is 'doing something unwise?' when no human beings possess 'wisdom'? If humans DO possess wisdom, it's too small of a fraction to be considered as wisdom.
Good news is that I am not saying your statement is incorrect, I just like defending myself (even though you didn't contradict my statement, you just said I should change something).

[Kira Yamato]

I'd probably want to live in blissful ignorance than deal with the horrible realities of life :sad

Well, that's just my opinion...:P

[EternalHatred]

I'd probably want to live in blissful ignorance than deal with the horrible realities of life :sad

Well, that's just my opinion...:P
Isn't to "Live in blissful ignorance" a kind of horrible reality of life?
If you are able to do that, it means it's reality as it is part of life.

[zeoblade]

Isn't to "Live in blissful ignorance" a kind of horrible reality of life?
If you are able to do that, it means it's reality as it is part of life.

I think the quote is, "To forget may be a blessing."

I just want to add hope and lies are for weak people that can't accept the truth.

[EternalHatred]

I think the quote is, "To forget may be a blessing."

I just want to add hope and lies are for weak people that can't accept the truth.
But then you're saying there shouldn't be weak people on this planet. You are saying they aren't 'truth', because if weak people can't accept truths, and hopes and lies are for them only, you are discarding them from being humane.

[zeoblade]

But then you're saying there shouldn't be weak people on this planet. You are saying they aren't 'truth', because if weak people can't accept truths, and hopes and lies are for them only, you are discarding them from being humane.

No I never said that, I just said hope and lies are for weak people that can't accept the truth. I don't know what you're going on about but I don't know of anyone that thinks weak as desireable. You are right about if they aren't able to accept truth then it's only lies and hope for them. However, they have humanity, I don't know why you brought that into the equation but they just haven't the ability.

[EternalHatred]

No I never said that, I just said hope and lies are for weak people that can't accept the truth. I don't know what you're going on about but I don't know of anyone that thinks weak as desireable. You are right about if they aren't able to accept truth then it's only lies and hope for them. However, they have humanity, I don't know why you brought that into the equation but they just haven't the ability.
OK, I would've expected you to not get what I meant, but I cannot and don't want to simplify it further because it'd make it very NOT what I wanted to say.

If weakness isn't desireable, then why are there strengths?
There are people who wishes to be weak. Who 'pretends' to be weak to gain pity. There are those. Then there are those who says they are weak just so that they can show others' strengths.
Weakness is desireable.
I didn't say they don't have humanity, I am saying what YOU said early took them down to a level that they aren't.

[zeoblade]

OK, I would've expected you to not get what I meant, but I cannot and don't want to simplify it further because it'd make it very NOT what I wanted to say.

If weakness isn't desireable, then why are there strengths?
There are people who wishes to be weak. Who 'pretends' to be weak to gain pity. There are those. Then there are those who says they are weak just so that they can show others' strengths.
Weakness is desireable.
I didn't say they don't have humanity, I am saying what YOU said early took them down to a level that they aren't.

Those that want pity are weak, they want an easy way out. If that is desireable to you then by all means be my guest, it's not in my vocabulary. Weakness sometimes cannot be helped, only improved. However, calling yourself weak is being modest, humbleness and modesty are desireable traits because they show control. It is strength because it takes more effort than one who lacks control. If you didn't say weaklings don't have humanity then something in your subconscience must have suggested it like you're suggesting I did. I only said hopes and lies are for weak people that can't accept the truth.

[EternalHatred]

Those that want pity are weak, they want an easy way out. If that is desireable to you then by all means be my guest, it's not in my vocabulary. Weakness sometimes cannot be helped, only improved. However, calling yourself weak is being modest, humbleness and modesty are desireable traits because they show control. It is strength because it takes more effort than one who lacks control. If you didn't say weaklings don't have humanity then something in your subconscience must have suggested it like you're suggesting I did. I only said hopes and lies are for weak people that can't accept the truth.
It feels better to grow from the extreme weakness to the extreme strength. SO why not weakness being desierable?
Call yourself weak isnt being modest or anything, it's just a way to gain reputation.
Strength does not take more effort, because it takes more effort in courage to 'be' weak.
If you are going to neglect weak being a part of your life, then you're basically telling yourself life runs in only one direction, and you'll only look in one direction to walk in life. Not realising, of course, the danger of things coming from behind (weakness). Weakness is a strength, just so that you know. It can be the quality that defeats strength.

[zeoblade]

It feels better to grow from the extreme weakness to the extreme strength. SO why not weakness being desierable?
Call yourself weak isnt being modest or anything, it's just a way to gain reputation.
Strength does not take more effort, because it takes more effort in courage to 'be' weak.
If you are going to neglect weak being a part of your life, then you're basically telling yourself life runs in only one direction, and you'll only look in one direction to walk in life. Not realising, of course, the danger of things coming from behind (weakness). Weakness is a strength, just so that you know. It can be the quality that defeats strength.

I don't disagree with you about feeling great growing from weakness to strength. Weak and strength are relative to each other, remember that. Also remember, you speak for yourself if you want to be weak. I speak for myself that I don't desire to be weak.

It takes strength to admit you're weak and is the first step to become strong so it is not weakness but strength. That's why strength takes more effort.

If a person neglects weakness in their life they don't see the balance, not that life runs in one direction. For optimists life runs in one direction and that is forward. Any weakness trying to catch you from behind is going to have to defeat your strength before they can catch you. And because weakness is weakness, strength will defeat it otherwise it wouldn't be weakness anymore.

Weakness doesn't defeat strength, hard can defeat soft. You have the wrong interpretation.

[EternalHatred]

I don't disagree with you about feeling great growing from weakness to strength. Weak and strength are relative to each other, remember that. Also remember, you speak for yourself if you want to be weak. I speak for myself that I don't desire to be weak.

It takes strength to admit you're weak and is the first step to become strong so it is not weakness but strength. That's why strength takes more effort.

If a person neglects weakness in their life they don't see the balance, not that life runs in one direction. For optimists life runs in one direction and that is forward. Any weakness trying to catch you from behind is going to have to defeat your strength before they can catch you. And because weakness is weakness, strength will defeat it otherwise it wouldn't be weakness anymore.

Weakness doesn't defeat strength, hard can defeat soft. You have the wrong interpretation.
Just to make sure u dont stand aground to what you have just settled in.
Hard does NOT beat soft. Imagine a piece of cake being squashed by a foot. Yes, the cake is squashed, but it's taken another shape/form. It doesn't mean it's gone, it means it's grown.
Weakness does defeat strength. Because to not think weakness is a strength is really, a weakness. So strength loses to weakness. and about your 'not being weakness anymore' then that applies to lots of things. Try not to use that kind of thinking. For example, I can say evil is good because it shows good, therefore evil isn't really evil. To explain like this is like talking to nothing. You are saying everything is just everything else. And, although, you CAN think that way, but that's not the level we want to think in. We won't get anywhere with that.

[falconmain]

your cake example is absolutely horrible.....lets look at it again....cake is for eating, it has a form and function to its shape. it was baked to have a light fluffly texture(assuming the person that made it was good) that is appealing to the people that it was intended for. the foot is meant for walking,standing, kicking etc etc. the foot comes along and stomps on the cake...the foot has performed its function and has survived intact no harm, no damage, and can still perform its intended function as per design. the cake on the other hand is now damaged useless and can no longer serve it intended purpose it is no longer light and fluffy its shape and function are no longer intact with its purpose and it has not grown into something stronger but a weaker unservicable pile of once edible garbage. I in no way see an outcome other then the foot winning this match. the cake has not grown is has been destroyed. strength in this situation has beaten weakness.

second....now I try to be nice with most of my posts if someone has something thoughtful and intelligent to say but
Because to not think weakness is a strength is really, a weakness. So strength loses to weakness.
is not even close to logical. where in that circular chain of logic does anything beat anything? I might agree with the first part of the statement if you followed it with something like being able to make your weakness your strength. but somehow you think the first part of your statement proves the second part which is absurd.

It sounds like your a smart guy that is just toying with people by playing the devils advocate. you don't seem to have alot of typos and your sentence structure is fine but your logic is stretched so far beyond belief it is hard to take you seriously. I generally just like to read posts but I have felt compulsed to comment on this and the is the earth round thread. it is easy to play these little mind games and try to trick yourself or others into believing that which does not exist but in the end your only fooling yourself and thus making it harder to see the truth which is the point of thought and debate.

[zeoblade]

Just to make sure u dont stand aground to what you have just settled in.
Hard does NOT beat soft. Imagine a piece of cake being squashed by a foot. Yes, the cake is squashed, but it's taken another shape/form. It doesn't mean it's gone, it means it's grown.
Weakness does defeat strength. Because to not think weakness is a strength is really, a weakness. So strength loses to weakness. and about your 'not being weakness anymore' then that applies to lots of things. Try not to use that kind of thinking. For example, I can say evil is good because it shows good, therefore evil isn't really evil. To explain like this is like talking to nothing. You are saying everything is just everything else. And, although, you CAN think that way, but that's not the level we want to think in. We won't get anywhere with that.

In your world maybe weakness is your goal haha but save it for yourself. Maybe the world is strictly black and white for you but that's the way you choose to see it. To say that weakness beats strength makes weakness really a strength, you contradicted yourself. Understand the concept of relativity because contradictions don't make yourself look any better. That's why falconmain can say what he said. In the end I can tell that you're quite sensitive about weakness.

it is easy to play these little mind games and try to trick yourself or others into believing that which does not exist but in the end your only fooling yourself and thus making it harder to see the truth which is the point of thought and debate.

Mind games, tell me about it. I don't know what kind of assumptions this person made. All I said lies and hope were for the weak because they can't accept the truth.

[EternalHatred]

It sounds like your a smart guy that is just toying with people by playing the devils advocate. you don't seem to have alot of typos and your sentence structure is fine but your logic is stretched so far beyond belief it is hard to take you seriously. I generally just like to read posts but I have felt compulsed to comment on this and the is the earth round thread. it is easy to play these little mind games and try to trick yourself or others into believing that which does not exist but in the end your only fooling yourself and thus making it harder to see the truth which is the point of thought and debate.
I like the first path of that last paragraph where it says:
It sounds like your a smart guy that is just toying with people by playing the devils advocate. you don't seem to have alot of typos and your sentence structure is fine but your logic is stretched so far beyond belief it is hard to take you seriously.
Because it is exactly how I want people to think of me. Too bad, I might sound like a smart guy, but I'll never be one.
How can I play 'little mind games and trick people' when all of what I said is really true?
When I say true, here, it is saying that truth cannot be found by humans' current status, neither can it be found by God/gods. Truth cannot be found. Tell me if anything is true, then I'll just tell you that there are things which the human brain cannot go and 'consider' because it doesnt even make sense to the brain.
Something that doesnt make sense 'to the human brain' may be the truth, and because it doesnt make sense to the brain, of course you'll never know what truth is and take what you DO think make sense AS the ultimate truth.

[zeoblade]

Because it is exactly how I want people to think of me. Too bad, I might sound like a smart guy, but I'll never be one.
How can I play 'little mind games and trick people' when all of what I said is really true?
When I say true, here, it is saying that truth cannot be found by humans' current status, neither can it be found by God/gods. Truth cannot be found. Tell me if anything is true, then I'll just tell you that there are things which the human brain cannot go and 'consider' because it doesnt even make sense to the brain.
Something that doesnt make sense 'to the human brain' may be the truth, and because it doesnt make sense to the brain, of course you'll never know what truth is and take what you DO think make sense AS the ultimate truth.

I don't think that what you want the impression you ask for but then again you do favour weakness in this thread so I certainly won't stop you.

The person refers to mind games such as obsecuring the meaning. I originally said what I said and somehow it has been obsecured into this. However, the analogy you used of cake is not only inaccurate but also again obsecure. I'm speaking objectively here as well.

Adulterated sense of truth maybe truthful to you as subjective as it is but objectively it is not for everyone else. However, this topic about weakness has been dragged out too far for anything important to be learnt...for the rest of us that is.

[Devilish Angel]

Truth and sorrow. If you give them lies and hope they'll soon lose hope after a long period of time and all they'll have left is lies and sorrow.

[zeoblade]

Truth and sorrow. If you give them lies and hope they'll soon lose hope after a long period of time and all they'll have left is lies and sorrow.

That's very true. Hope and lies are temporary. It's not much from me but I gave you a good reputation if you like that kind of thing.

[iLLESTxBOO]

how bout truth & hope? :)

[Nihonjin]

This seriously depends on the situation, usually I would go with Truth and Sorrow..
But in some cases Truth just doesn't cut it..

Example1:
Gaara:, Right before his uncle (because he killed him) died, he told Gaara how he truly felt, he hated him (while Gaara loved him to death), his father sent for his assasination, his mother used him to curse her country.

Lies and Hope for teh win.

Example2:
Rock Lee:, Tsunade tells him to quit being a ninja and live a normal life, because his body is to messed up, his only chance to ever be able to become a ninja again, is a surgery with a 50% chance of dying.

Truth and Sorrow for teh win.

Example1, Gaara didn't have to find out, and him finding out doesn't fix anything, it only makes it worse.

Example2, Sooner or later Rock Lee would've found out Tsunade couldn't fix him without him having a 50/50 chance of dying, so instead of telling him "it will be alright" when its just a matter of time before he'll find out = wrong.

Anywayz, I'd go for Truth and Sorrow most of the time,
Living for something that will never be, just sucks.

[DragonHeart52]

Truth and sorrow, as much as that hurts me to make that sort of decision. Sooner or later, lies are revealed and trust is lost. Grief and sorrow always hold the potential of passing, allowing hope to emerge again.

[zeoblade]

how bout truth & hope? :)

Sounds good and logical to me. When one door closes another opens.

[MURPHY]

i preffer sliding glass..

[Spades]

Personally i think that truth and sorrow is alwasys the best choice. When you give people hope in s way its like giving them your word and if that doesnt come true your equally responsible for what happens after all thing are said and done

[General Shino]

Truth and Sorrow.. becuase in the end.... the lies come around... and when they find out its twice as painful... By giving them lies and hope and I would be too painful for me to go through each day there believing in a unworthy cause..... false hope is so evil

[tjinnuf]

Same as Shin4eva :)
(truth and sorrow)

[Uchiha_Tsukuyomi]

Truth & Sorrow

[Satsugaite]

Ill Give That Person Truths And Lies.lol

[∫sin²(θ)dθ]

truth and sorrow. i'm not the kind to withhold info.

[Jester12]

Truth and sorrow... but lies when need be

[EternalHatred]

To explain what honesty IS, I have constructed this piece of dialogue with many holes in it. How does honesty relate to the topic? Honesty and truth. They relate each other. And according to me, to BE honest, u must gain so. You cannot simply tell the truth.

(During a simple situation where a teacher asks the student for his homework)

Teacher: Where is your homework?

Student: My dog ate it.

Teacher: So you didn’t do it?

Student: I did it, but my dog ate it.

Teacher: Dogs don’t eat homework. Just tell me you didn’t do it.

Student: But it’s true, my dog ate it.

Teacher: Look, just be honest.

Student: What if I am being honest?

Teacher: When you said your dog ate it, it’s quite obvious, isn’t it?

Student: If I had said something else, would you have thought I was lying as well?

Teacher: Well, as long as it’s a reason, not an excuse.

Student: So you are telling me I should always be honest?

Teacher: Yes, of course.

(Another Student joins the conversation)

Student 2: What if you’re under a situation where lying is more helpful than being honest?

Teacher: Pardon?

Student 2: Like, if you were preparing a surprise for a friend, and he asked what you’re doing with the things you’re preparing with. Would you not lie rather than be honest to keep the surprise, a surprise?

Teacher: In that situation, it’d be better to lie than to be honest, but even if you be honest, it won’t hurt anyone. It just means that if you lied, it would be a positive for both of you.

Student 2: So in other words, honesty isn’t always the best choice.

Teacher: Not necessarily. Since it will not do harm to be honest, and the usual situation is to be honest to get the better outcome, it’d be best to generalise all situations with being honest as the best way to go.

(The first Student speaks again)

Student: What if the situation was that it is better to lie, while being honest will bring negative to one or both sides?
Teacher: Explain.

Student: Just like right now. You tell me to be honest about my homework, but if I didn’t do it, it’s better to lie rather than to tell the truth. If I lied well enough, I would’ve got away with this, and everything would be normal as I’d have to do it afterwards anyway. If I didn’t lie, I would’ve got a detention plus doing the homework I didn’t do. This doesn’t affect you, but for me, I have to accept punishment for being honest, whereas I wouldn’t have if I am lying with a valid reason.

Teacher: What you do here, is what you’ll learn to do for the future, so in a way, it’s actually both negative and positive, therefore neutralising each other.

(The Students are speechless)

Teacher: I suppose though, you cannot always be honest.

Student: But you just said being honest is a better choice.

Teacher: Of course, but you cannot be honest without first having the quality of honesty itself. That is what I’m here for, to help you achieve such qualities.

Student: So you mean honesty cannot be shown, but unless you possess it?

Teacher: Yes. It’s best to generalise every situation with being honest, but you must first earn honesty to do so.

(The story ends with the student ACTUALLY DID do his homework, but tried to challenge the teacher with his own way of thinking)

[slasher1001]

it's depend whether that person ready for the truth ,yes he or she will be very sad but what if they totaly lose all thier hope and kill their self so for me i just tell them what they want to hear.

[Chibi Chan]

Truth and Sorrow

If they know the truth sooner, the faster they move on right? It'll be better to lie to them for a long time and they find out later which would make it worse... (depending on lie)