Marvel Verse vs. Timmy Turner. [Archive]

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Violent Man

11-11-2006, 09:52 PM

Thats right all of Marvel versus Timmy Turner from the Fairly Oddparents.

Marvel has everyone in their strongest forms.

Timmy Turner has himself, his Fairy Goddparents Cosmo and Wanda. And Timmy has eaten a rule free muffin before the battle ensues.

The rule free muffin means that the fairies have no rules and grant any wish the person who ate the muffin makes.

Bloodlust is on.

Who wins.

elektroniks

11-11-2006, 10:00 PM

Timmy wishes them all dead.......

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-11-2006, 11:46 PM

^agreed, Timmy wins this

Emery

11-12-2006, 12:18 AM

TOAA.

The-One-Above-All

Which means he is above faries.

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-12-2006, 12:24 AM

Wait, fairy magic doesn't affect anything "super" so Marvelverse wins

Purgatory

11-12-2006, 12:43 AM

Wait, fairy magic doesn't affect anything "super" so Marvelverse wins

But it can if Timmy eats a piece of the magic muffin. It will grant you ANY wish no matter how STUPID, dangerous, or vicious it is, it WILL be granted.

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-12-2006, 12:54 AM

Magic just isnt powerful enough, the rules are irrelavent

Purgatory

11-12-2006, 01:11 AM

Magic just isnt powerful enough, the rules are irrelavent

If it was in the FOPverse, it would apply and Timmy could just wish them dead onspot. Show me how magic cannot effect marvel characters.

Level 70 Orc Ninja

11-12-2006, 01:11 AM

Timmy will not be able to utter the words "I wish they were all dead" before somebody extremely fast punches his head out.

The Space Cowboy

11-12-2006, 01:17 AM

The LT summons the Shrike from the Hyperionverse, and has the Shrike deal with Turner.

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-12-2006, 01:23 AM

If it was in the FOPverse, it would apply and Timmy could just wish them dead onspot. Show me how magic cannot effect marvel characters.

Super Toilet

Purgatory

11-12-2006, 01:28 AM

Super Toilet

*Smacks his head* Timmy is allowed the magic cupcake, which will grant him ANY wish, no matter what it is, even if it's something like SUPER Toilet and SUPER Bike, it will grant him any wish no matter what it is, so he's able to freely wish on ONE wish that is not restricted by any set of rules.

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-12-2006, 01:30 AM

If it was in the FOPverse, it would apply and Timmy could just wish them dead onspot. Show me how magic cannot effect marvel characters.

Super Toilet

Purgatory

11-12-2006, 01:44 AM

Super Toilet

Any wish, no matter what it is....

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 02:21 AM

Neji Kun is right about the muffin. Is there any prep time, preferably enough time for Timmy to make a wish? If there is, then Timmy can wish for everyone on the opposing side to die, or that they were never born.

Otherwise, before Timmy even thinks about making a wish, he'll get killed by the flash.

Personally, I'd wish for a copy of the Shrike that was completely obedient to me to the point of death (or for an unlimited amount of wish making muffins, then do it). :grin

Purgatory

11-12-2006, 02:33 AM

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 03:00 AM

That sounds rather sad. I believe for a second Flash wouldn't even THINK about killing a 10 year old. HOWEVER, if bloodlust is on, Timmy is boned...BIG TIME!

I believe that the majority of Marvel characters would never consider killing Timmy (Captain America, Xavier, Storm, Wonder woman, Nightcrawler, Superman, Hulk... just to name a few).

But seeing as bloodlust has been initiated, then Timmy stands about as much chance as any other buck-toothed 10 year old.

Super Toilet

BTW, this doesn't refute Neji Kun's point, as Super Toilet is from the FOP verse (unless there's a Marvel character by that name I don't know about... :P).

Amatsu

11-12-2006, 03:03 AM

Timmy wishes them all dead.......

He can't. It goes against DA RULES so Timmy can't kill anyone with a wish. He's not allowed to do that.

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 03:13 AM

He can't. It goes against DA RULES so Timmy can't kill anyone with a wish. He's not allowed to do that.

Do you know what the Magical wish muffin is? It is a special muffin that is only given to children you have managed to keep the existence of their fairy (ies) for a whole year.

It is a special muffin that tastes like crap, but provides the consumer with one RULE-FREE wish. So regardless of whether or not it goes against DA RULES, he can make a wish. Even if it:
-is against a super being,
-involves a death, or
-destroys love

he can make the wish. There is no loophole in "wish for whatever you want".

atom

11-12-2006, 04:08 AM

Ok, first he wishes that he can just think the wishes instead of saying them (without the rule free muffin) then he wishes that time stopped and he can still move (with the rule free muffin) then he simply kills everyone.

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-12-2006, 04:43 AM

The magic muffin isnt omnipotent, it just isnt bound by the rules. Cosmo and Wanda cant hurt supers because magic isnt strong enough, not because of Da Rules

Not to say though that Timmy couldnt just wish for his own powers or call the Shrike, Afro Luffy, and MacGuyver to help him pwn

Violent Man

11-12-2006, 04:46 AM

TOOA is supposed to be like the writer or creator right. If thats it then look at this.

* One of the episodes Timmy ends up being confused on how he has learned a lesson at the end of the show and blurts out I wish I knew who writes this stuff in which Butch Hartman and Steve Marmell appear in their cartoon form and the show just ends.

Timmy - 1
TOOA - 0

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 05:07 AM

The magic muffin isnt omnipotent.

Who says? I don't recall Wanda or Cosmo ever saying that it wasn't. More importantly, the muffin itself is not omnipotent - it is by definition, impossible for a non-sentient object to be omnipotent - it just lifts the rules so that the fairies are no longer limited. Who says that their wishing power isn't omnipotent?

It's the same case as with the Genie (Disney's Aladdin); he can grant any wish as long as it doesn't involve wishing for more wishes, killing, love, or raising the dead. Everything else is open to him.

With their power, the fairies have shown the ability to:
-Control time
-Alter reality on a Global Scale
-Create life, and
-Grant large scale destructive power (when Timmy became the rip-off of Galactus)

The fairies themselves are also either immortal, or have eternal life (or very long lifespans).

If they're not omnipotent, they're certainly nigh omnipotent.

Amatsu

11-12-2006, 05:35 AM

Do you know what the Magical wish muffin is? It is a special muffin that is only given to children you have managed to keep the existence of their fairy (ies) for a whole year.

It is a special muffin that tastes like crap, but provides the consumer with one RULE-FREE wish. So regardless of whether or not it goes against DA RULES, he can make a wish. Even if it:
-is against a super being,
-involves a death, or
-destroys love

he can make the wish. There is no loophole in "wish for whatever you want".

I know what it is... I didn't know he had that until AFTER I made that post.

Enclave

11-12-2006, 05:38 AM

I'm guessing you are using the main Marvel Universe which is the 616 universe.

It has more than it's own fair share of reality warpers. Hell it even has a whole race of reality warpers (the Celestials). This is no contest.

Violent Man

11-12-2006, 05:40 AM

The magic muffin isnt omnipotent but it takes away any limits, bounds, or rules the fairies have. So essentially for that one day yes they are omnipotent. Actually there is one rule but one rule only for the muffin: You cant ask for a better tasting muffin. :p

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 07:22 AM

I know what it is... I didn't know he had that until AFTER I made that post.

Then all is well.

I'm guessing you are using the main Marvel Universe which is the 616 universe.

It has more than it's own fair share of reality warpers. Hell it even has a whole race of reality warpers (the Celestials). This is no contest.

With no prep time I agree entirely. There are rarely any fights with such a clear cut answer.

A 10 year old boy with no abilities whatsoever would stand no chance against an army of characters with supercharged abilities, some on an omnipotent scale. It's kind of like sending a SSJ4 Gogeta to take out a kitten; Absolute Overkill.

Enclave

11-12-2006, 08:31 AM

Even with prep-time it isn't possible. You still have Living Tribunal and One Above All to deal with. Now to put this in perspective, Thanos once erased Living Tribunal from existence with the Infinity Gauntlet. Living Tribunal got better.

Kuya

11-12-2006, 08:52 AM

Timmy Wishes for clones of everyone from the Marvelverse and DCverse to fight with him.

Enclave

11-12-2006, 09:10 AM

Clones are never quite as good as their real counter parts. My evidence?

Peter Parker vs Ben Reilly. Parker is the real one, Reilly is the clone. Ben created impact webbing, Peter invented innumerable different specialty webbings. Ben died, Parker was reborn after he died.

I could go on :p

Nyarlathotep

11-12-2006, 09:31 AM

FOPverse magic can't affect "Super" beings, dragons, butterfly nets, roaches, magical artifacts or anything that is inside any of the previous. I'm sure there must be some characters in marvel that fit into any of those classifications (first thing that came to mind was Dr. Strange, dunno why).

A powerful marvel telepath could simply take over Timmy's mind and make him wish he didn't have godparents or something. (Xavier and a bunch of characters come to mind)

Also, Cosmo and Wanda are completely powerless without their wands and a minimum (almost non-existant) threat to marvel characters with their wands but without Timmy making wishes. If any marvel character can take Timmy out before he can make a wish, marvel wins. (way too many come to mind)

Timmy also needs to voice his wish for either Wanda, Cosmo or the muffin to make it happen (since Timmy is crappy at charades and he's apparently not smart enough to write his wish instead of playing charades, and the charade probably wouldn't work with the muffin, mostly because it's a muffin), so if any marvel character can stop or damage his vocal cords (Telekinetics) or somehow impede him from even being able to form a coherent thought (Telepaths) they win.

Also, If there's any marvel character capable of manipulating air or soundwaves, then s/he should be able to alter Timmy's voice into gibberish so that neither Cosmo or Wanda can understand him. The muffin wouldn't be able to work either, the wishes have to be made in a language that the godparents or the muffin can understand, otherwise they can't do anything (as far as we know, the muffin might be limited to spoken languages). Any character capable of damaging Timmy's vocal cords or impede him from forming a coherent thought should also be capable of doing this.

Of course, if Timmy gets preptime and there's a rule that no marvel character can impede or attack directly or indirectly him or anyone he cares about until his preptime is over then he may or may not win (there's no telling if the muffin would work on some marvel characters, particularly cosmics and higher). And, of course, Timmy and/or his godparents might find a way to still fail even with those advantages, it comes with being american comedic cartoon characters.

~Shin~

11-12-2006, 09:34 AM

The magic in the FOP verse is limited. It cannot affect super beings and any cosmic in marvel is way above a super being and if we bring the speedsters in this battle then timmy would be dead before he says "I wish"

Doggie

11-12-2006, 04:46 PM

Timmy doesen't have the guts to wish em all dead,and while he's is deciding what to do, he will recieve a few bullets through teh head from teh UBER l33t Punisher.

Kazuma the Shell Bullet

11-12-2006, 05:25 PM

Timmy could wish he was Jplaya's Itachi and he'd own them ALL

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 05:25 PM

Timmy doesen't have the guts to wish em all dead,and while he's is deciding what to do, he will recieve a few bullets through teh head from teh UBER l33t Punisher.

They're bloodlusted you know. What they may have the guts to do and not do doesn't matter. Do you think that the Flash, Captain America, Wonderwoman, Superman, or Xavier could force themselves to hurt a 10-year old boy? I'm quite sure Sabretooth, Galactus and Venom would have no problem...

Timmy could wish he was Jplaya's Itachi and he'd own them ALL

Or better yet, Jplaya's Gogeta... :laugh

Purgatory

11-12-2006, 05:38 PM

Or better yet, Jplaya's Gogeta... :laugh

Or even better yet...Ando's Golden Byakugam Neji AND Jplaya's Itachi

Barinax

11-12-2006, 06:31 PM

Timmy can only win if he's fast enough to say his wish. If not... he's dead.

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 06:45 PM

Timmy can only win if he's fast enough to say his wish. If not... he's dead.

They do have the Flash on their side. Nothing Timmy can do is fast enough.

Barinax

11-12-2006, 06:47 PM

They do have the Flash on their side. Nothing Timmy can do is fast enough.
Isn't the Flash from the DC Universe?

Thanatos

11-12-2006, 07:05 PM

Isn't the Flash from the DC Universe?

By golly, you're right! Hmmm... Well, they still have quicksilver (I think that's his name... Magneto's son?).

The Wanderer

11-12-2006, 07:24 PM

Ultimate Captain America will kick his ass. Unlike his 616 counterpart, he WILL beat the crap out of you in the heat of the battle if he must, he'll cut you in half with his shield if that's what it takes to end the battle, he WILL bitchslap you, like he did with Hank Pym, and he will kick you in the nuts without a second thoght (like he did with Hulk). And finally, he will kick you in the face once the battle is over. Ultimate Captain America is a jerk in the battlefield XD

Ultimate Quicksilver can make him explode too, and I'll leave it at that XD

Nihonjin

11-12-2006, 09:04 PM

Do you know what the Magical wish muffin is? It is a special muffin that is only given to children you have managed to keep the existence of their fairy (ies) for a whole year.

It is a special muffin that tastes like crap, but provides the consumer with one RULE-FREE wish. So regardless of whether or not it goes against DA RULES, he can make a wish. Even if it:
-is against a super being,
-involves a death, or
-destroys love

he can make the wish. There is no loophole in "wish for whatever you want".

I wish I had an unlimited number of rule-free wishes?
Anyway, unless Timmy gets 3 seconds prep time he's dead before he knows he's in a fight >_>

atom

11-12-2006, 09:31 PM

Amatsu

11-12-2006, 09:50 PM

Azure-kun

11-12-2006, 10:50 PM

the wishing muffin would leave marvel in dreadful defeat...Timmy turner is that powerful.

The Wanderer

11-12-2006, 11:06 PM

So Ultimate Captain America is the Marvel version of Superman being a dick?The short answer is yes, BUT only when he's fighting. With his buddies he shows his heart, specially with Bucky (hint: Read The Ultimates, that made me go "Aww"). He's not a bad man, but he'll do whatever is neccessary in order to win his fights.

Endless Mike

11-12-2006, 11:08 PM

People here really need to learn the concept of a no - limits fallacy....

Violent Man

11-12-2006, 11:14 PM

What are you talking about?

Azure-kun

11-12-2006, 11:23 PM

the really fucked up thing is that timmy can take "small pieces" of the Muffin and still be able to wish, just a crumb is more then enough to give timmy unruled wishing power (the best wish would have to be when he gets to be a fairy himself....)

Endless Mike

11-12-2006, 11:49 PM

Except when he made that wish, he kept screwing up and had to go to Jorgen's boot camp.

Enclave

11-13-2006, 07:08 AM

You guys don't understand. Wanda and Cosmo don't even have to be there for him to use his Muffin Wish, he wishes them all dead done. + The muffin and sense your wish so as long as you eat it the wish is instanteously done.

Oh I understood. Thing is though that there are characters in the Marvel Universe that can get better from that very easily. Look at the Living Tribunal example I gave.

Azure-kun

11-13-2006, 09:20 PM

Except when he made that wish, he kept screwing up and had to go to Jorgen's boot camp.

I can only assume he remembers his lessons. in the near end of the episode Vicky was sub-merged in trash.

ezxx

11-13-2006, 09:30 PM

timmy can pwn the writer of the story if he wanted