Kakashi-sensei vs. Gai-sensei

[RockinRockLee242]

What is your opinion on who would win in an awesome ninja showdown between Kakashi and Gai?:P I believe that it would be Gai as the victor! Gai-sensei said himself that their battle scores were 50-49, him winning! Taijutsu is power!

[Itachi_th]

Kakashi will beat up Gai for sure. It would be better this was topic was posted in the jap manga section because i could back up my claim. Nevertheless Kakashi rocks.

[Smexyman]

They tie... at everything. I can't mention both their special abilities cuz' of spoilers. But they both tie. It was mentioned when they were watching the preliminaries, was it not?

[Black Swan]

Gai sensei if he opens up all 8 gates and uses his anti sharingan techniques.

[Itachi_th]

They tie... at everything. I can't mention both their special abilities cuz' of spoilers. But they both tie. It was mentioned when they were watching the preliminaries, was it not?

if you are saying according to the dub yes, but for in the jap manga kakashi has new abilities which i think is capable of defeating Gai

[the_real_rock_lee]

Gai-Sensei would win hands down!

[B☆Cosmo]

Kakashi can't handle Gai's awesomeness. Gai FTW!

[Fonster Mox]

Kakashi's one of my favourite characters, but I think I'd go with Gai because he has ways of getting round Kakashi's major tactics.

[gokuden553]

Gai's coolness is too muich for Kakashi to stand up against.

[Ooter]

Gai beats kakashi you heard it 49-50.

[Kakuzu]

Gai's turtle summoning ability makes him the strongest character in the Narutoverse.

[Art of Run]

DYNAMIC ENTERY!!

[gokuden553]

^ Best attack ever of his ^^

[Me<3Hinata]

Kakashi would win hands down in my opinion. if im not mistaken, he is called the copie ninja for a good reason. and that sharingan of his has to be a very good plus. :thumbs

[FallenAngelII]

DYNAMIC ENTERY!!
Has it actually been used in the series yet (I don't think so), you spoiler!

No, -character not mentioned in the dub yet- is much better (a move in Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 3 and 4. I think it's up B)!

Or Narutimate Entry for Naruto: Narutimate Hero 2 and 3! XD

[~Kakashi~]

Bias aside, I'd still say Kakashi and Gai would tie. I would say something else, but the american version isnt far enough along for me to say.

[Loki]

What fight do you mean?Paper rock.. ^^

[CrazyMoronX]

Gai will do the "Nice Guy Pose", his tooth sparkle will blind Kakashi, leaving Gai just enough time to destroy him with the Dynamic Entry!! :Gaipose


Gai > Kakashi!

[JessieB]

thats a tough question to answer, especially judging from the point in which the shows have been translated. gai hasnt really shown much of his strength.

now, in most generic "contests" the have, they are almost tied (at the point the american version is, i believe gai is winning with 50 to 49). but if they were to seriously fight each other, it would be a difficult choice to make. id prefer kakashi, of course, but i really feel that they would, in fact, be tied.

[MKashew]

Kakashi is legendary. Gai is not.

Kakashi looks cool. Gai looks lame.

Kakashi is cool and laid back. Gai is loud and obnoxious.

KAKASHI WINS!

[_0Tu_R@N_]

I will definitely go for kakashi as he is very cool and he is stronger than Gai..they are both funny though hahaha :P

http://www.extremefunnyhumor.com/avatars/kakashi1b.jpg (http://www.uploadit.org)

[Konoha Kid]

It would be a good fight. I think Kakashi would win though. Kakashi never seems like he wants to compete with Gai. To him it's a waste of time. I've never seen a serious battle between the two but I think if Kakashi got serious he would win. He is the copy ninja.

[ew_younerd]

Ew. I'd rather do Gai than Kakashi anyday. Gai is original, hygenic, sexy, and more passionate. Gai ftw.

He's also not legendary because he doesn't copy everyone's moves. Plus, Kakashi had a legendary father. So he's legendary by default.

[5538858]

Gai uses only taijutsu and kakakshi nin gen and tai. Kakashi rocks.

[Art of Run]

Gai uses only taijutsu and kakakshi nin gen and tai. Kakashi rocks.

But Gai is how many times faster?

[FallenAngelII]

But Gai is how many times faster?
And Lee's speed proved to be such a great thing against Gaara, who's slow as heck because of the heavy gourd on his back.

Speed does not equate auto-win in Narutoverse (or in real life either).

[Art of Run]

But it depends on how he uses the speed. I was about to say something about Kakashi's Sharingan and something it can do >_>

[gokuden553]

Two rivals clashing against eachother = classic :)

[kakashifan777]

Kakashi would destroy gai. Gai might be fast but Kakashi could catch him with sharingan.

I dont see how any one could think gai would win. :? KAKASHI!!

[ShadowHokage]

Yeah, Gai is faster than Kakashi, and their rivalry has always been fun to watch. Its not like Kakashi would take Gai seriously anyways. But its probably going to be Kakashi who wins....

[KazumaSakuraUchiha]

idk this is a tough one, i mean gai trains to defeat kakshi and since he uses tiajutsu kakashi cant copy it, but i think kakashi would win, since he uses pretty much all of them very well, so id say kakashi!

[~Zaxxon~]

Kakashi>>>>>>>>>Gai

[cyu2]

Ninja turtles>>>>>>>Nin dogs

[HKakashi]

Kakashi hands down

[kakashifan777]

Gai is still good but Kakashi would win like i said earlier

[Halenro]

Kakashi will win

[Halenro]

gai is weird.hes not so cool.

[Dave21]

Kakashi vs Gai

Kakashi will win !

But i think that Gai woud be hard to take down.


BTW: Do anyone know what has happened to Kakashi??
They havent shown him in long long time now!
The only show Gai all the time.
And i dont remeber that Kakashi went on some speciall misson.
:cry :cry :cry

I MISS KAKASHI !

[Veil of Dreams]

I'll just say what I always say: In a match between Kakashi and Gai, the winner is whoever is down a point. :P

And Lee's speed proved to be such a great thing against Gaara, who's slow as heck because of the heavy gourd on his back.

Speed does not equate auto-win in Narutoverse (or in real life either).

That's a bit different. Gaara's defensive techniques make him naturally strong against taijutsu. Lee ended up against the worst possible opponent for a taijutsu specialist.

[GaraaGod]

Gai will start be a commando in public again and Kakashi will pull out his book and read for a while and then when Gai turns around Kakashi will do the thousand years of pain ataack
_______________________________________
GaraaGod
Kakashi's protocolgy
doctor#435

[Ooter]

kakashi wins i guess...

[zarien]

Gai ftw


I mean...he is in the lead in there matches, even though Kakashi picks lame challenges :P

[starblade876]

As expected, Kakashi's being overestimated and Gai's being underestimated.

Gai knows what the Sharingan can do, so he's not going to be fooled like Zabuza was the first time. Gai focuses on taijutsu, but he's not limited to it like Lee. Even if Kakashi can see the taijutsu, it doesn't mean he can match and counter, like how Sasuke couldn't the first time he fought Lee. Kakashi's best bet is probably ninjutsu and genjutsu, but we know how much strain the Sharingan puts on him because he's not an Uchiha, so we know that he can't last very long using the Sharingan and has to watch his chakra use. Gai on the other hand probably has a lot of endurance.

It comes down to whether Kakashi has a ninjutsu or genjutsu that can counter or defend against Gai's taijutsu and whether Gai can counter or endure Kakashi's ninjutsu or genjutsu. Result: unknown. Gai's not definitely going to win, but neither is Kakashi.

[Naruto514]

kakashi will. gai doesnt even stand a chance against rocks, papers, scissors game. but i admire gai for his devotion and determination

[DISTANTTHUNDER]

Hey, I vote for Gai, just because people underestimate him.

[DISTANTTHUNDER]

Hey, I vote for Gai, just because people underestimate him.

...And I don't like it when people underestimate others...

[Steven Pinhead]

49-50

Not all of those were battles. (This shouldn't be too much of a spoiler) They ranged from races to a game of Rock-Paper-Scissors. And many rediculous things in between.

[Shinkirou]

I'd have to say Kakashi, cause even with Gai knowing how the sharingan works and how to counter some of its properties, Kakashi after being around Gai must know some tricks to counter Gais fighting style. That and you still have the sharingans ability to predict movement. I'm not saying that it would be an easy fight or anything, this is one of the fights that can easily go anyway, but I just think that Kakashi has a little bit of an advantage in this fight.

[Smokes]

Gai. Nuff said.

[Ma-Duece]

You'ld have to think in terms of what each challenge was. FOr both excel and lack in certain areas, as explained earlier.

[Akira-Chan]

Gai-Senei would pwnzor Kakashi!

[#1RockLeeFan]

gai does have the speed but he really can't due ninjutsu or genjutsu really well like kakashi can. plus kakashi does have the sharingan and could predict anything. also being rivals for 21 years most likely they know eachothers moves. it will be hard for them to take eachother down, but it will be really fun to watch. But i think kakashi will beat gai hands down!!!

[J6sh]

Kakashi would dominate Gai for a number of reasons, most notably his justu superiority.

[Naruto_RV]

I think Gai holds the record for the most wins 50-49, but is an all out fight, they know each other too well, I have no anwser who would win because they'll never go all out on each other.

[OMGicantbelieveit]

Kaka-sensei would win. Gai taijutsu is good but I haven't seen him use anything else.

Kaka has copied over 1000 jutsu's...How could he lose.

[J6sh]

I think Gai holds the record for the most wins 50-49, but is an all out fight, they know each other too well, I have no anwser who would win because they'll never go all out on each other.

That record means nothing, they do random tasks such as 100m sprints and rock, paper, scissors.

[CoonDawg]

Kakashi. Gai just doesn't shut up.

If you want to get technical: Kakashi has Sharington, Chidori, and wisedom. Gai has fast feet. Which one wins? Kakashi obviously.

[starblade876]

Kaka-sensei would win. Gai taijutsu is good but I haven't seen him use anything else.

Kaka has copied over 1000 jutsu's...How could he lose.
Well, he almost lost to Zabuza... :oh

That record means nothing, they do random tasks such as 100m sprints and rock, paper, scissors.
100m sprints mean something. Besides, it was also implied that they may have had sparring matches as one of the challenges.

Kakashi. Gai just doesn't shut up.

If you want to get technical: Kakashi has Sharington, Chidori, and wisedom. Gai has fast feet. Which one wins? Kakashi obviously.
I'll bring up Zabuza again. Zabuza just has water jutsu and a big sword (or just a sword hilt if you're unfortunate). Which one wins? Kakashi obviously?

Just because Kakashi has zomg 1337 h4x0r pwnz3r skillz!!!111!!11!1, doesn't mean he'll win against everyone. If it weren't for Naruto and Sasuke, I doubt Kakashi would've been able to escape the Water Prison. Besides, Gai knows of Kakashi's main claims to fame; I'm sure he thought of ways to avoid/evade/counter many of them.

[CoonDawg]

Well, he almost lost to Zabuza... :oh
If it weren't for Naruto and Sasuke, I doubt Kakashi would've been able to escape the Water Prison.

How was he planning on killing him with one arm? He used the prison so he could kill the kids first (With the kids dead (and his mission dead) he had a much better chance to win (and he completed his mission, so he could run away).

[The Truth]

Well, he almost lost to Zabuza... :oh
And how would Gai have done against Zabuza? In fact Gai would've been killed even quicker. Unlike Kakashi he has no means of find Zabuza through the mist.
100m sprints mean something. Besides, it was also implied that they may have had sparring matches as one of the challenges.
No it wasn't. Kakashi doesn't even acknowledge Gai as a rival, if they had ever sparred maybe he would. It's purely a one sided rivalry like Lee and Neji.
I'll bring up Zabuza again. Zabuza just has water jutsu and a big sword (or just a sword hilt if you're unfortunate). Which one wins? Kakashi obviously?

Just because Kakashi has zomg 1337 h4x0r pwnz3r skillz!!!111!!11!1, doesn't mean he'll win against everyone. If it weren't for Naruto and Sasuke, I doubt Kakashi would've been able to escape the Water Prison. Besides, Gai knows of Kakashi's main claims to fame; I'm sure he thought of ways to avoid/evade/counter many of them.
If it weren't for Naruto and Sasuke I doubt Kakashi would have been caught in the water prison in the first place. It's interesting that you completely disrergard the fact that he had to protect 4 people.

[J6sh]

100m sprints mean something. Besides, it was also implied that they may have had sparring matches as one of the challenges.

So, in theory if you could beat Mike Tyson in a 100m sprint, you'd beat him in a fight?

[starblade876]

How was he planning on killing him with one arm? He used the prison so he could kill the kids first (With the kids dead (and his mission dead) he had a much better chance to win (and he completed his mission, so he could run away).If he didn't have a plan after he killed the kids and the old man, he would've been dead and he probably knew that. It's a pretty safe bet that he would've had a way to deal with Kakashi even one-handed, especially since he can create Water Clones with one hand.

And how would Gai have done against Zabuza? In fact Gai would've been killed even quicker. Unlike Kakashi he has no means of find Zabuza through the mist.We wouldn't know. Do we know what his summoned turtle can do? Do we really know how quick his reactions are? Do we know how well he can sense things? No. No. No. Gai would've been killed quicker is not a fact at all.

No it wasn't. Kakashi doesn't even acknowledge Gai as a rival, if they had ever sparred maybe he would. It's purely a one sided rivalry like Lee and Neji.Watch the episode where we find out more about their competitions and tell me what Gai asks Kakashi. I believe that's where the 100m sprint thing came from in the first place. If that were an indication of previous challenges, then they might have sparred before. Kakashi not taking it seriously has been an overused excuse. I don't believe we were ever even told that by Kakashi; it's only an assumption because he chose Janken. We don't know if Kakashi really tried in any of the other challenges that Gai chose, which were more than likely physical challenges. We don't even know if Gai won all/most of those either, so we couldn't say definitely either way.

If it weren't for Naruto and Sasuke I doubt Kakashi would have been caught in the water prison in the first place. It's interesting that you completely disrergard the fact that he had to protect 4 people.After the first Water Clone, the other 4 didn't matter; Zabuza just used them as bait to get the fight started. Even if they weren't there, I'm sure Zabuza could've come up with something else or he might have been able to do the same without any bait at all.

So, in theory if you could beat Mike Tyson in a 100m sprint, you'd beat him in a fight?
Nice. Silly me thought speed and endurance meant something. I guess not though. Oh, I also forgot that "something" means "everything" and/or that "something" means "nothing." Good thing you caught that/those, too.

[The Truth]

We wouldn't know. Do we know what his summoned turtle can do? Do we really know how quick his reactions are? Do we know how well he can sense things? No. No. No. Gai would've been killed quicker is not a fact at all.
Oh, so we should assume that he would have performed better than Kakashi? Because that is what you implied in your post.
Watch the episode where we find out more about their competitions and tell me what Gai asks Kakashi. I believe that's where the 100m sprint thing came from in the first place. If that were an indication of previous challenges, then they might have sparred before. Kakashi not taking it seriously has been an overused excuse. I don't believe we were ever even told that by Kakashi; it's only an assumption because he chose Janken. We don't know if Kakashi really tried in any of the other challenges that Gai chose, which were more than likely physical challenges. We don't even know if Gai won all/most of those either, so we couldn't say definitely either way.
So if we don't anything why are you even using it as an example? The fact that Kakashi is the world famous technique specialist from Konoha, should tell you how strong he is. The fact that Gai is obsessed with Kakashi is only evidence of his infatuation not his strength.
After the first Water Clone, the other 4 didn't matter; Zabuza just used them as bait to get the fight started. Even if they weren't there, I'm sure Zabuza could've come up with something else or he might have been able to do the same without any bait at all.
Yes and that would be a baseless assumption. Considering zabuza first tried to attack Tazuna, should telly you that things would be differant if they were fighting one on one.

[Elite Uchiha]

What is your opinion on who would win in an awesome ninja showdown between Kakashi and Gai?:P I believe that it would be Gai as the victor! Gai-sensei said himself that their battle scores were 50-49, him winning! Taijutsu is power!

Gai is winning in a game 49-50 hom of rock paprer scissors

[starblade876]

Oh, so we should assume that he would have performed better than Kakashi? Because that is what you implied in your post.I didn't intend to if I did. I was only trying to make it clear that you can't say Gai would've been killed quickly "in fact" when it's not a fact at all.

So if we don't anything why are you even using it as an example? The fact that Kakashi is the world famous technique specialist from Konoha, should tell you how strong he is. The fact that Gai is obsessed with Kakashi is only evidence of his infatuation not his strength.Look at the posts I was replying to and even the last part of this quote. People are saying it's textbook because Kakashi copied 1000 jutsu, has the Sharingan, has the Chidori, etc. and Gai is silly and fast and strong. Kakashi vs. Zabuza should have also been textbook, but Zabuza gained the upperhand anyway. That's why I used Zabuza as an example. Gai's only obsessed with Kakashi because he believes that a healthy rivalry will keep the two involved stronger.

Yes and that would be a baseless assumption. Considering zabuza first tried to attack Tazuna, should telly you that things would be differant if they were fighting one on one.It wouldn't be baseless at all. Even though Zabuza "tried" to attack Tazuna, Kakashi didn't have to stop any jutsu he was trying to execute and he didn't get hurt trying to protect the others. If it were just Kakashi sans others, he would've been on the defensive after Mist Concealment, Zabuza would probably still use Water Clones, Kakashi would probably still get tricked by the second Water Clone trick, etc. I fail to see how Team 7 and/or Tazuna made Kakashi get tricked by the second Water Clone or kicked in the water or get trapped in the Water Prison.

[The Truth]

I didn't intend to if I did. I was only trying to make it clear that you can't say Gai would've been killed quickly "in fact" when it's not a fact at all.
It is "fact" because judging from there abilties that we have seen Gai has no means of countering Zabuza's jutsus. His speed and strength are meaningless when fighting someone who relies on concealment.
Look at the posts I was replying to and even the last part of this quote. People are saying it's textbook because Kakashi copied 1000 jutsu, has the Sharingan, has the Chidori, etc. and Gai is silly and fast and strong. Kakashi vs. Zabuza should have also been textbook, but Zabuza gained the upperhand anyway. That's why I used Zabuza as an example. Gai's only obsessed with Kakashi because he believes that a healthy rivalry will keep the two involved stronger.
Since when is fighting an S class missing nin textbook? You make it seem as if Zabuza was weak and Kakashi is weak therefore for being captured. They were both obviosuly on the same level of strength. Having 1000 jutsus makes you strong, getting caught by Zabuza doesn't make you weak. Especially when you have no evidence that Gai would fare any better.
It wouldn't be baseless at all. Even though Zabuza "tried" to attack Tazuna, Kakashi didn't have to stop any jutsu he was trying to execute and he didn't get hurt trying to protect the others. If it were just Kakashi sans others, he would've been on the defensive after Mist Concealment, Zabuza would probably still use Water Clones, Kakashi would probably still get tricked by the second Water Clone trick, etc. I fail to see how Team 7 and/or Tazuna made Kakashi get tricked by the second Water Clone or kicked in the water or get trapped in the Water Prison.
You fail to see how having to be aware of 3 genins and a civilian with a contract on his head, would figure into a fight? Whether Zabuza succeeded in attacking Tazuna isn't the issue, the fact that he even attempted it completely invalidates your argument.

[chaosas]

That's a tough one. I like them both and they seem like most powerful of all Jounins. Still, I would bet on Gai :) Too bad I haven't seen him using any ninjutsu. Does he even use any (I don't read the manga)? Anyway, his taijutsu should be superior to Kakashi's (if he can see it with his sharingan, his body might not be able to move that fast) besides, he can open the chakra gates. Even if he doesn't have any "massive" ninjutsu, taijutsu is always good in 1 vs 1 :wink
I say that because Akatsuki members seemed to hold his power in high esteem and he was even ready to fight just with looking at their feet. That's Gai for you :leepose


About Gai vs Kakashi competition: even if Kakashi doesn't take it seriously, it doesn't mean that he thinks Gai is too weak to be his oponent. Kakashi doesn't want to loose his style :P Naruto is loud too, do we like him less because of that?

I like Kakashi a lot too, they are both my favorite characters.

[Rock-Lee]

maito gai... enough said....

[Lee-ish-cool]

Gai would. He's stronger than Kakashi, he can do ninjutsu and he's faster. He's already winning. And anyone who thinks Kakashi will win with his sharingan obviously doesn't know much about Naruto, in general. It's been said, multiple times SHARINGAN SEES THROUGH NINJUTSU AND GENJUTSU, BUT NOT TAIJUTSU, which Gai is going to mainly use. The sharingan is a disadvantage.

[The Truth]

Gai would. He's stronger than Kakashi, he can do ninjutsu and he's faster.
Gai is physically stronger then Kakashi and so what if he's faster? With the sharingan he can follow all of his movements.
He's already winning.
Winning what? those competitions that Kakashi doesn't care about? Congratulations.
And anyone who thinks Kakashi will win with his sharingan obviously doesn't know much about Naruto, in general. It's been said, multiple times SHARINGAN SEES THROUGH NINJUTSU AND GENJUTSU, BUT NOT TAIJUTSU, which Gai is going to mainly use. The sharingan is a disadvantage.
Perhaps you should read or rewatch Naruto so that you may better understand it. The sharingan can see through all jutsus, even taijutsu. If not, then how do you explain Sasuke copying Lee's jutsus?

[starblade876]

It is "fact" because judging from there abilties that we have seen Gai has no means of countering Zabuza's jutsus. His speed and strength are meaningless when fighting someone who relies on concealment.Do we really need to look at the definition of the word "fact"? No offense, but that last sentence just seems ignorant. Speed almost always has meaning even if the meaning is running away or running to a better playing field (e.g. away from a large body of water).

Since when is fighting an S class missing nin textbook? You make it seem as if Zabuza was weak and Kakashi is weak therefore for being captured. They were both obviosuly on the same level of strength. Having 1000 jutsus makes you strong, getting caught by Zabuza doesn't make you weak. Especially when you have no evidence that Gai would fare any better.Seriously? Do you really just not get it? Despite Zabuza's "S-class missing nin" title, on paper, Kakashi just looks better. Assuming they're about equal in speed, strength, chakra, intelligence, cleverness, and techniques, Kakashi has the Sharingan and Zabuza has his Zanbatō. Zanbatō >= Sharingan?

Does that mean that I think Zabuza's weak? I neither state nor imply that. Does that mean that I think Kakashi's weak because he got caught by Zabuza? I neither state nor imply that. So, what's the point I was trying to get across that I thought was obvious? Scant observations and technical statistics don't mean everything. Gai does NOT definitely lose to either Zabuza or Kakashi.

You fail to see how having to be aware of 3 genins and a civilian with a contract on his head, would figure into a fight? Whether Zabuza succeeded in attacking Tazuna isn't the issue, the fact that he even attempted it completely invalidates your argument.The logic doesn't follow at all. Kakashi thought he had checkmate at the second Water Clone trick. He wasn't concerned for the others' safety at that point because he thought he had Zabuza. For things to end up similar, Zabuza only has to get Kakashi to think he has Zabuza after the first Water Clone trick. If you don't agree, I can only guess that you don't remember how it all went down and that you won't try to see it again or that you're not even trying to think. If it's either of those, there's no point in trying to talk about that subject further.

[The Truth]

Do we really need to look at the definition of the word "fact"? No offense, but that last sentence just seems ignorant. Speed almost always has meaning even if the meaning is running away or running to a better playing field (e.g. away from a large body of water).
A large body of water isn't necessary to create chakra enhanced mist. As long as there is moisture there can be mist so your argument falters. Speed isn't meaningless your right, it justs means less in this instance. Theoretically speaking, Gai's speed won't help him see any better. Nor would speed factor into dodging an attack he isn't even aware of. Zabuza can silence his whole body and find his opponents through sound alone. Gai can't.
Seriously? Do you really just not get it? Despite Zabuza's "S-class missing nin" title, on paper, Kakashi just looks better. Assuming they're about equal in speed, strength, chakra, intelligence, cleverness, and techniques, Kakashi has the Sharingan and Zabuza has his Zanbat?. Zanbat? >= Sharingan?

Does that mean that I think Zabuza's weak? I neither state nor imply that. Does that mean that I think Kakashi's weak because he got caught by Zabuza? I neither state nor imply that. So, what's the point I was trying to get across that I thought was obvious? Scant observations and technical statistics don't mean everything. Gai does NOT definitely lose to either Zabuza or Kakashi.
I could careless how Kakashi "looks". He beat Zabuza, but not with ease. Therefore, Kakashi may indeed be stronger then him but the gap between the two isn't large at all. As for Gai, we deal with what we know. You brought up Zabuza, which was your mistake.
The logic doesn't follow at all. Kakashi thought he had checkmate at the second Water Clone trick. He wasn't concerned for the others' safety at that point because he thought he had Zabuza. For things to end up similar, Zabuza only has to get Kakashi to think he has Zabuza after the first Water Clone trick. If you don't agree, I can only guess that you don't remember how it all went down and that you won't try to see it again or that you're not even trying to think. If it's either of those, there's no point in trying to talk about that subject further.
I don't remember how it went down or i'm just ignoring the situation? I'm well aware of what happened and it is a perfect example of your ignorance(intended or unintended) that you would suggest that. You can't even see past your own argument. How could the fight between the two be the same had Kakashi not been protecting his teamates, when Zabuza directy attacked his teamates? It is categorically incorrect and you would have to be blind not to see it.

Anyhow, theres no need for me to shoot more holes in your argument, not when your doing it for me. Enjoy the rest of the show/manga.

[takeover2]

Gai beats kakashi you heard it 49-50.

49-50 in a whole bunch of things ranging from sumo wrestling,ramen eating, races and so on he never said that record was for all fights

[theCommanderCardinal]

It's funny how Kakashi POs Guy w/o even lifting a pinky.
" Your kids made an astonishing breakthrough, Kakashi. Perhaps they got lucky...but my kids'll beat them into the ground in this next round! Oh, well...sometimes youth is all about dealing with heartbreak- eh, Kakashi?"
"Huh? Did you say something?"
"OH MY GAAAWWWD!!"

[starblade876]

A large body of water isn't necessary to create chakra enhanced mist. As long as there is moisture there can be mist so your argument falters. Speed isn't meaningless your right, it justs means less in this instance. Theoretically speaking, Gai's speed won't help him see any better. Nor would speed factor into dodging an attack he isn't even aware of. Zabuza can silence his whole body and find his opponents through sound alone. Gai can't.I'm fairly certain it should be safe to assume that it'd take a longer time for Mist Concealment to finish if it's away from a large body of water. During that time, it would seem odd for someone to wait. I'm also fairly certain it's safe to assume that a drop of water isn't going to create mist as thick as what we saw. Even regardless of all that, your argument jumps the gun by assuming Gai's senses and reactions. If you've seen an instance or instances that proves your point and it's a spoiler, feel free to PM it to me. Otherwise, if you don't know for a fact and have no reason to really come to a conclusion, don't treat it as fact.

I could careless how Kakashi "looks". He beat Zabuza, but not with ease. Therefore, Kakashi may indeed be stronger then him but the gap between the two isn't large at all. As for Gai, we deal with what we know. You brought up Zabuza, which was your mistake.Again, you seem to miss the point entirely. I didn't make any mistake in bringing Zabuza up because it was a classic example of how you can't conclude the result of a fight just on a little bit of observation and a little data. With Gai, even if we only know a little about him, there's no logical reason at all to conclude that he would lose to either of them because we don't know what he can do. It'd be like saying, "Since we don't know who Kisame is yet, Tenten would kill him easily."

I don't remember how it went down or i'm just ignoring the situation? I'm well aware of what happened and it is a perfect example of your ignorance(intended or unintended) that you would suggest that. You can't even see past your own argument. How could the fight between the two be the same had Kakashi not been protecting his teamates, when Zabuza directy attacked his teamates? It is categorically incorrect and you would have to be blind not to see it.

Anyhow, theres no need for me to shoot more holes in your argument, not when your doing it for me. Enjoy the rest of the show/manga.I said it could end up the same (i.e. Kakashi in the Water Prison). I already explained it. If anything, Team 7 and Tazuna should have made Kakashi even more careful about Zabuza. That is unless we're going with the whole idea of him having stage fright and being unable to perform well in a crowd. Of course, that would be a baseless assumption.

[milkshakes]

Lol Kakashi would win Gai. Gai even lost to Kakashi in rock paper scissors! Lol:nuts :nuts

[Ino-chanrxs766]

I would hands off, say Kakashi would win.

[king mickey]

kakashi will win and thats a fact.

[cha0s]

kakashi. gai is teh sux

[milkshakes]

Kakashi can own Gai hand to hand no jutsus. If they did use jutsus, Kakashi would use his dog move like he did to zabuza and then use Chidori!!! Aka(Rakiri)

[emanresu]

isnt it obvious that Kakashi = Gai ? :cry

[omg laser pew pew!]

Isn't it obvious that I would own Kakashi any day of the week

[Kei Kurono]

Kakashi would pwn Gai hands down, skill would always overcome coolness.

[milkshakes]

Sharingan doesn't matter. kakashi can dog and chidori adn G
ai dead. Game set.

[Art of Run]

I would use a manga scan but that would be a spoiler.

It is said that it is 49-50 or was it 50-51...anyway the winning number was Gai. Gai's speed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kakashis speed.

[killer_konoichi]

Well, when Rock Lee fought Sasuke, Lee won, so I think Gai would win since he is much more fast and powerful then Lee.

It's like another Sasuke and Lee fight, except with older Jounin's. That's all it is. Gai said in one the episode to know how to avoid the Sharigan when he was fighting Itachi. Gai obviously knows how to avoid Kakashi's since he goes up against him so often.

That 50-49 thing was different trivial games, not just battles. Gai said that he has won against Kakashi before when he met Sasuke, Sakura and Naruto for the first time.

[mystictrunks]

Gai has depth perception,he wins.

[theender1987]

Kakashi is smarter, he wins.

[ShikaKage]

Kakashi would totally win!!

[zarien]

Gai isn't winning in their matches for no reason. It's because he's just that much cooler :P

[Kurosaki]

Kakashi has Sharingan which he can use to whip up awesome jutsu, but using it too much will tire him out. Gai has speed, but Kakashi has many tricks up his sleeve, and I am sure he could find a way to counter Gai's speed. A battle between them could go either way, but I think that they would end in a draw.

[Rezo]

Hmm...

Hatake Kakashi's advantages

Ninjutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 4.5
Intelligence: 5
Seal Knowledge: 5
Trump Card: Sharingan

Kakashi is more well-balanced than Gai; the only attributes he's lacking in are force and stamina.

Maito Gai's advantages

Taijutsu: 5
Force: 5
Speed: 5
Stamina: 5
Trump Card: Hachimon (Eight Gates)

While Gai's aforementioned attributes are of the highest degree, his: ninjutsu, genjutsu, seal knowledge, and tactics are sorely lacking.

I have no idea who'll win; they're two completely different shinobi who complement each other.

[Shurikien]

Kakashi, sure, in the score, Gai is winning, but i think kakashi would win and even the score~!

[Aizen]

kakashi imo, not by far though

[Shurikien]

Gai would spend hours explaining his technique. Then Kakashi would say "Huh, did you say something?" Then Gai would pass out. Thats how i see it

[wolfninja26]

My moneys on Kakashi

[naruto-x demon]

i say kakashi would win beacause i've seen the rock paper scissors arc and kakashi won againist gai, so there kakashi wins

[Nice Gai]

Arena battlefield - Gai
Woods - Kakashi

[̣]

Mine is Gai.
I have backed up proof and statements made but such spoilers are forbidden in this subforum.

If only you dubbers knew...
:(

[Kyon]

Gai for spoilers and such.

However, in non-spoiler territory he's fast and strong (think a buffed up Lee) and could quickly overcome Kakashi with his stamina.

[JoeUsumaki]

HMMmmm i'd like to say Kakashi but i have a suspion that gai would win even though kakashi is Awesomer

:mgai :shrooms

[Jamez116]

Kakashi sensei all the way

[Un]

Gai
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[Haruni]

Gai may have his extreme stamina but Kakashi is not far behind, using the sharingan along with the large number of justu he knows he'd totally whip Gai

[mostly]

Wow, I reckon this one is super close and you can easily argue for both sides. If Gai starts using Hachimon then I reckon Kakashi will be in for a tough time... but Kakashi is so wiley he could trap Gai with a cunning plan. I reckon if Gai really wanted to win he should either distract Kakashi with a IchaIcha Paradise book and go in for the win.

This is all speculation of Course but one thing I know for sure: MOUSTACHE GAI WILL WIN EVERY TIME NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!!
(*makes nice guy pose to computer screen*)

Anyway :huh

[Gabbe13]

Gai sensei if he opens up all 8 gates and uses his anti sharingan techniques.


Yeah, that would be reeeeal smart. If he opens the eight and final gate he would die:P

Though i do not doubt that it would be a rather even fight, i still think that Kakashi would win.
I mean, If Gai opens up 7 of the 8 gates, Kakashi would be in real trouble.
(I am considering that this would be a battle of life and death) But Kakashi still has his Sharingan, and he is so much smarter. I'm sure he would be able to figure out a smart strategy to beat Gai, but it would be one of the most even battles of all time:nuts

[Gabbe13]

Hell yeah!!
If you can summonbb turtles u can do anything.
(Maybe even beat Kakashi?)

[Jenna Berry]

Kakashi .

[Saosin]

Kakashi .

[Hokage Mech]

i thought it was 49-49 until Kakashi beat him in paper rock sissors but i guess i was wrong.

they about a tie

[K']

I think this will be a draw.

[Uchiha Maikeru]

What is your opinion on who would win in an awesome ninja showdown between Kakashi and Gai?:P I believe that it would be Gai as the victor! Gai-sensei said himself that their battle scores were 50-49, him winning! Taijutsu is power!Taijutsu will only get him so far. Look at Lee. He has zero talent with jutsu's, but is extremely talented with taijutsu. That'll always be his down fall.

Anyway, it can go either way. Gai knows how to fight against a Sharingan user like Kakashi, and I'm pretty sure that Gai's taijutsu style is far superior to Kakashi's. We've not really seen Gai use any ninjitsu moves, though. This fight would be like watching Sasuke fight Lee almost. Kakashi doesn't have much stamina, and his Sharingan would be virtually useless against Gai. He also knows 1000 jutsu's, which I'm sure would come in handy somehow. Kakashi has his Chidori, which, honestly, I think Gai would easily avoid. Well, unless he goes all Zabuza on Gai. And Gai could open up a few gates and wipe the floor with Kakashi with brute strength and lightning speed.

I guess, Gai would take it.

[Darkened_Uchihaz]

It'd be a close one, I suppose. Of course, Gai is too enthusiastic and confident about his abilities. That just may be his undoing when fighting Kakashi. Kakashi is cool and collected, and is even considered a genius in the Hidden Leaf Village. However, his lack of interest might cause him to forfeit and give Gai the satisfaction of winning. Gai would be too proud to take that kind of victory and force Kakashi to fight for real. Then they'd get more serious and have an intense battle.

If it was anything like Sasuke and Lee's first battle, I'd seriously be disappointed...

[twin_rasengan]

gai beats kakashi in 17 secs with super speed but the sharingan will bring difficulty

[shadow_shika]

all that kakashi has gai doesnt have an all that gai has kakashi doesnt have
a mix between their abillities wold be a perfect shinobi

and i think kakashi would win his much better in nin jutsu

[Shirozaki]

Kakashi pwns .

[NinjaDead-Eye]

when people refer to to the standings between kakashi and Gai at 50-49 in Gai's favour, remember this is a contolled environment and also the fact that they are friends (kind of) plays into it all. Kakashi would win because in an open environment match up where anything goes Kakashi would anihilate Gai.
Don't forget kakashi's sharingan and that also Gai's opening of the gates takes time. Kakashi would be able to exploit this the first chance he gets.

[DarkDemonNinja]

Kakashi would win hands down.

[Hitsugaya Messenger]

I know you can make all the reasons you want for both sides, but there is no way of knowing since they are too even. Gai was winning in their record until the rock-paper-scissors thing tied them up. If I had to pick one, I think it would be Gai if he went all out. But if it was just a normal, "friendly" fight, then maybe Kakashi since he has Sharingan, which is a pretty cheap advantage.

[fennixfire]

I think it'll end in a draw. :wussfight

[RockGuitarist]

It would be a long match. Allow me to explain. Kakashi has the Sharingan, and even though it's in only one eye, it is fully developed, being a 3 tomoe Sharingan, decent strength, and speed. Might Guy, has great speed, strength and stamina. What Kakashi lack in those departments, the Sharingan, and 1,000 jutsus make up for. Zabuza did indeed catch Kakashi in his water prison, but not because of team 7, and Tazuna, but because he outsmarted Kakashi, nothing more nothing less, it does not mean Kakashi is weaker, or Zabuza is stronger, but, it means that Zabuza got the upperhand, just for that moment. Yes, they both know eachother's strengths, and weaknesses, which is why the match would be so long. It could go either way, as they are both quite strong, all though in the end, I woul hope that Kakashi would win, because Kakashi is............... KAKASHI :yell !!!!

[Wolf Child]

I agree that it would be a long match, because of how each weakness compliments the other's strengths. Most likely it would end up with one or the other running out of chacra, or someone stepping in.

[BeautifulGreenBeast]

Gai wins but only by the skin of his teeth, he would need to open the gates to win.

[Spencer_Gator]

Gai of course, look at that man he is unbeatable

[Crimson2Phoenix7]

Kakashi would win though Gai's win level is off the roof.

[Dragoness_Noush]

hmmm maybe kakashi, but its more likely to be a draw.

[Neko]

kakashi-sensei vs gai-sensei = Tie-Sensei?:huh

[Creator]

Years of debating wont solve this question. Its a draw i say. :P

[Lee1993]

gai would kill he just lets kakashi win

[Levithian]

kakashi UNLESS gai USED the forbidden technique of opening the internal gates like rock lee did to enhance his power 10 fold.

[Double Arts Sui]

I say Gai, although there is a chance of draw. (senseeei, forgive me for saying THAT!)

[Cair Paravel]

Gai-Sensei would win hands down! FFFTTWWW!!!

[martinipenguin]

Gai just opens up some chakra gates and Kakashi can't even follow him using his sharingan. Gai is total and complete win!

[Cheesy Bacon]

It would be a long, drawn-out battle. But if Gai starts opening the gates, Kakashi's done.

[YellowFlash23]

I think Kakashi takes it in a fair fight every time. He's the best Konoha Jounin, IMO, when it comes to skills.

[Itachi1993]

I i think this :P

Why Gai sensei the i must be a Y
Kakashi can copy-Gai can,t copy
Gai got to large eyebrows-Kakashi got human eyebrows

I think kakashi is the winner

[Soi Fon]

^How can I refute such infallible logic?

Anyway...bias aside, I do believe Gai's gates would ultimately give him the advantage needed in order to defeat Kakashi.

Kakashi can't handle Gai's awesomeness. Gai FTW!

Gai will do the "Nice Guy Pose", his tooth sparkle will blind Kakashi, leaving Gai just enough time to destroy him with the Dynamic Entry!! :Gaipose


Gai > Kakashi!

I do like these explanations more though. :laugh

[Dementia]

Gai-sensei said himself that their battle scores were 50-49, him winning! Taijutsu is power!
The battles included rock-paper-scissors, in which you can just have bad luck, like me and Kakashi.:grin
Taijutsu vs. Ninjutsu = pathetic vs. unstopable, remember Lee vs. Gaara preliminaries.
Yes, Gai is strong, but as he admited himself, Kakashi's coolness is too much for him to withstand... (this happened during Chuunin exam 3rd part Sasuke vs. Gaara)
Kakashi OWNS.

[Totitos]

I go for Kakashi in this.

[KyodaixSensu]

Kakashi wins xP.

[Sandaime Kazekage]

Kakashi wins because he has mad skills!!!! and i swear he can use gates aswell

[aliencommander]

kakashi
he copyed lee useing the gates and would use them right when gai also used them
oh yeah

[Spazzy]

I have to go with Kakashi on this one...

[maximilyan]

I think if it were serious, kakashi would win.

[Brokensharingan]

kakashi
he copyed lee useing the gates and would use them right when gai also used them
oh yeah

Kakashi doesn't have the psychical ability to open the gates it would put too much strain on his body just because he knows how to do a jutsj doesn't mean he can perform it.

Hmm if it where serious im going 60%Kakashi 40%Gai

[Marluxia]

Kakashi would win.

And regarding posts from before, Kakashi can open at LEAST the first gate, as we've seen him do it. (When he's climbing the cliff one-handed in -snip-, and when he uses Primary Lotus on one of the Snow Ninja in Naruto the Movie: Ninja Clash in the Land of Snow)

[Lawliet]

Dynamic Entry ftw, it'd be a short fight.

Whenever Kakashi takes on a truly stong ninja, he winds up in bed for a week.

Gai just pwns, rinses and repeats.

[Tay Zonday]

Gai with no gates is said to be on Kakashi's level, add in the fact that Gai TRAINS to battle the sharingan and Gai takes this with no gates. Add let's say 3 gates and Kakashi is crippled.

[Haze is Dreamin']

Kakashi wins because he has mad skills!!!! and i swear he can use gates aswell

Really?

Gai with no gates is said to be on Kakashi's level, add in the fact that Gai TRAINS to battle the sharingan and Gai takes this with no gates. Add let's say 3 gates and Kakashi is crippled.

Gai with no gates is on the same level as Kakashi with no Sharigan.

Kakashi takes this.

[Ryuk]

gai is trained to battle without looking in his oppenents eyes and that is an advantage against kakashi

also he is stronger than kakashi and has the lotus

so i vot gai

[Lawliet]

Gai with no gates is on the same level as Kakashi with no Sharigan.

Kakashi takes this.

Sharingan only helps when you can move your body fast enough to react to what you see. Gai moves at 300km/hr, so Kakashi will be inside the wall before he even realizes the fight has started.

[yondaime the 4th hokage]

kakashi sensai