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Endless Mike

11-08-2006, 12:14 PM

http://sandrockk.free.fr/files/homepage/actu/goodies/saintseiya/saga.jpg

vs.

http://angel.enredados.com/images/31.png

Battlefield is an uninhabited galaxy.

Thanos is at current levels, and has no plot devices (Cosmic Cube, Infinity Gauntlet, Heart of the Universe, etc.)

Who wins?

11-08-2006, 12:16 PM

Endless Mike

11-08-2006, 12:16 PM

It's allowed.

11-08-2006, 12:23 PM

It's allowed.

Thanos wins. Although Saga can survive the pressures of space thanks to his Cosmo And Gold Armor. He is still requires air to sustain life.

Rice Ball

11-08-2006, 12:47 PM

Saga hasn't shown any teleportation powers has he?
Thanos could port to his fleet and Nuke the planet from orbit or use one of a million nasty weapons that Saga couldn't react too.

11-08-2006, 12:52 PM

Saga hasn't shown any teleportation powers has he?
Thanos could port to his fleet and Nuke the planet from orbit or use one of a million nasty weapons that Saga couldn't react too.

In the Gaiden #2 one of the big spirit/souls suggest to use his power (the ability to bead/twist the fabric of time and space to open portals to another dimension - Another Dimension), to cross over dimensions.

I guess you can make out of it what you can.

Rice Ball

11-08-2006, 01:42 PM

Yeah he always used that as an attack tho, and the 'end' location wasn't one of his choice i don't think. But your the expert tbh :)

The Wanderer

11-08-2006, 01:46 PM

That would be a good battle, at least while they duke it out mano-a-mano.

If they resort to planet-busting, Thanos wins, if Saga can't survive in space that is.

On a lighter note:
The SS games sucked XD

11-08-2006, 01:48 PM

DarkLordDragon

11-08-2006, 01:49 PM

Well this will never end especially if we go by all statements and descriptions on each side because we don't know how fast is Thanos, there are people who consider him 100 times the speed of light and there are people who think he can only at the speed of light, so it's better if you set up some rules so we can come to conclusion.

As for Saga's teleportion well in the anime I don't know but the only think I remember was when Shaka used "Ohmu" the three saints disappeared they didn't go to another temple they just disappeared and then re appeared again...

In the Saint Seiya games Saga does have teleportion, though...

Saga can survive in Space thanks to his Gold Cloth and I guess he can also breath, the guy have a 7th sense which means even if only he have the 6th sense its enough for him to be fighting.

Endless Mike

11-08-2006, 01:50 PM

Thanos isn't that fast except in reflexes.

DarkLordDragon

11-08-2006, 01:55 PM

For some reasons I am leaning towards Gemini Saga, not because I am a fanboy, but I think his reflexes is greater than Gemini Saga since he was have no trouble against Seiya who achieved the lightspeed and he was able to be faster than light without his cloth. Besides the speed Saga by burning his cosmo can almost do anything, because as we know everything in the universe is made of atoms and thanks to Saint's nature they have a micro-universe in their body so by burning the cosmo and exploding they can hit souls, light, curses, abstracts...etc and Saga is one of the strongest Gold Saints meaning his cosmo already exceeded that of Aries Mu...

11-08-2006, 01:57 PM

Saga is faster then light.
Aiolia of Leo stated it himself, when Saga lounched his attack on him (at least in my Spanish manga he states it)

The Wanderer

11-08-2006, 01:58 PM

I cant even get a hold of em (Damn it Import the God Damn Game to the US!!!) Trust me, you're better off not playing them. My friends and I used to fantasize about how cool a SS game would be (That was when I was 6, so go figure) And 14 years later the game finally arrived and it didn't live up to the freaking overhype. Can you imagine how we dealt with that crippling blow ?

If you like real fighting games (Ie: Soul Calibur, KOF, Guilty Gear) avoid this like the plague, there aren't traps or yomi whatsoever, and all the character use the same combo. Otherwise, you may have a chance of surviving, but be warned, a part of you will be dead afterwards. :cry

Endless Mike

11-08-2006, 02:00 PM

Well Thanos can react to and defeat FTL people (Captain Mar-Vell, Silver Surfer, Eros, etc.) and has the Power Cosmic as well as a lot of other abilities as well.

11-08-2006, 02:00 PM

Hm...I played the nes and gameboy versions of Saint Seiya. (Thank you vary much Mu's Corner.)

I also want to know if its Thanos w/reality gem.

If so Saga is so Screwed.

Endless Mike

11-08-2006, 02:03 PM

No, he doesn't have the Reality Gem.

11-08-2006, 02:08 PM

No, he doesn't have the Reality Gem.

I wonder if matter transmutation would work on Saga. I know it would not work on Shaka, but can Saga's raw cosmo power protect him from such ability?

11-08-2006, 02:37 PM

Thanos' immortal, right?

Endless Mike

11-08-2006, 02:45 PM

As far as we know, yes.

11-08-2006, 02:57 PM

Thanos' immortal, right?

That only means Thanos will exp. Death 100 times!!! buahahahah.

11-08-2006, 07:51 PM

All right that’s enough pussy footing, lets get this debate going (I always wanted to know who would win among these two).

What keeps Thanos protected from effects of Genromaoken, Turning Thanos into Saga’s own personal herald?

(And will power alone can only go so far, you did see what it did to Crystal Saint, Shura, Aioria, and Rhadamanthys.)

Rice Ball

11-08-2006, 08:46 PM

Genromaoken

The fact Thanos has one of the most powerful minds in the universe, he has engaged Moondragon in mental combat and beat her PRE power boost. Post power boost he mind fucked Beyonder/Fallen one and tried to take out Galactus with a mental attack. If he doesn't have resistance to this type of attack, then no marvel or comic book character does.

Galaxian Explosion

A powerful attack, but we've seen Thanos take shot from Odin/Galactus before, It might hit Thanos once, but then Thanos will get wise, the attack itself does give the enemy a good chance to evade it. It was also blocked by Shaka, meaning shields can effect it

Another Dimension

Thanos ports himself back into the battle.

11-09-2006, 01:27 AM

5 sense removal......defangs Thanos what can Thanos do about it?

Darklyre

11-09-2006, 01:53 AM

He has cosmic senses.

11-09-2006, 02:03 AM

He has cosmic senses.

I understand that, but would the 5 basic sense removal affect Thanos?

Orion

11-09-2006, 02:18 AM

if he has cosmic awareness it wont help one bit^^.

11-09-2006, 02:24 AM

if he has cosmic awareness it wont help one bit^^.

Ok, 5 sense removal wont help much. But Genromaoken has secondary effects.
1 it resisting mind control places the central nervous system in extreme pain.
2 it paralyses the opponent.

Even if its momentary what guarantee do you have that these secondary effects wont effect Thanos?

Orion

11-09-2006, 02:30 AM

i believe he has complete control over his body...and from the durability feats thanos has its as if he practically doesnt feel pain lol.

11-09-2006, 02:35 AM

Another Demension isn’t going to work. (Thanks to his equipment)

There is a good possibility Thanos can survive several Galatic Explosion’s.

5 sense removal wont do much help.

And if Genromaoken does not work along with its secondary effects,

then……the best Saga can hope for is that his God Killing Dagger (The one that is meant to kill immortal gods), will be enough to take down Thanos.

Rice Ball

11-09-2006, 04:48 AM

Ignoring the current Drax v thanos, i'm pretty sure a dagger wouldn't be able to do it, the dagger itself has properties that could assist with breaking the force field. Athena allowed herself to be killed by it remember.

Endless Mike

11-09-2006, 09:10 AM

Rice Ball

11-09-2006, 09:48 AM

I don't think Thanos mental powers will work on Saga. Saga himself is also a master of mind control/psychic attacks, imho the abilities would cancel each other out.

He might be able to trap Saga, he'd have a bit of trouble breaking free, maybe if he pulled a Seiya and burned his cosmo to the max he could break out, but he'd be weakened by it.

The biggest problem he'd have would be thanos cosmic blasts, they are likely to do a large ammount of damage even against gold cloth. I wonder how meny pull powered blasts a gold cloth could take.

11-09-2006, 11:26 AM

Not to mention we haven't gone over Thanos' attacks and techniques, like his psychic attacks (TimeMindSyncWarp for example), or transmutation, or containing his enemy in a block of cosmic force (which was strong enough to hold Power Gem Warrior Madness Thor for hours), etc.

Cronos attempted to control his mind….It didn’t work on him. (Cronos is the equivalent of a Major Olympic Gods, in fact its hinted that Zeus might actually fear Cronos, He is also the God that set off the Big Bang and gave birth to the Saint Seiya Universe.)

Matter transmutation……….I don’t know if it can or cant work. I know it wont work on Shaka for sure. And in the Heavens Chapter it was revealed that raw Cosmo power can counter reality warping.
The idea behind is that, Cosmo Power also carries the power of creation that was passed on from the remain’s of the Big Bang. But again that’s reality warping and not matter transmutation.

Containing Saga in a block of cosmic force isn’t going to work, for almost the same reasons why Thanos can not be contained within a dimensions. Saga has the ability to teleport, as well as the power to crossover dimensions (this was revealed in the Gaiden #2 in Episode G.)

I also want to let you know that Saga has the ability to hide his existence completely, and become invisible.

Rice Ball

11-09-2006, 11:55 AM

I don't know if teleporting would help tbh.
Its more like physical energy pushing against him from all directions. Could Saga escape from Camus ice prison?

11-09-2006, 12:06 PM

I don't know if teleporting would help tbh.
Its more like physical energy pushing against him from all directions. Could Saga escape from Camus ice prison?

That’s debatable. During the Sanctuary arc, it was stated that the only way to break free from the inside was by achieving close to absolute zero. It was also stated that unless you have the aid of a powerful weapon (Like Dohko’s), even if several
Gold saints ware to gather and attack at the same time would be pointless.

But Minos (One of the 3 judges) physically broke a variation of the Ice Tomb.

And Aioria in episode g, broke it with his Photon Burst (I think).

DarkLordDragon

09-09-2007, 06:37 PM

Nods to ID & Rice Ball

please set up the fight again and let's see :)

Rice Ball

09-09-2007, 07:16 PM