View Full Version : Cassandra Cain Vs Kakashi
Luckyday
11-07-2006, 02:06 PM
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Cassandra Cain, nicknamed "Cassie," was the last Batgirl (of partly Asian descent), having taken on the role with the approval of both Batman and Barbara Gordon. Trained by her father, assassin David Cain, to be the ultimate martial artist and assassin, Cassandra was not taught to speak. Instead, the parts of her brain normally used for speech were trained so she could read other people's movements and body language and predict, with uncanny accuracy, their next move. This ability lives up to her namesake; Cassandra in Greek mythology had the gift of seeing into the future, but was cursed so that nobody would ever believe her predictions. This closely relates to Cassandra's capability of 'seeing' her opponents next move at the cost of being (initially) unable to speak. This also caused her brain to develop learning functions different from most, a form of dyslexia that hampers her ability to read and write. She eventually gave up the identity, with her solo series cancelled (Batgirl #73).
Endless Mike
11-07-2006, 02:08 PM
If only Comic Book Guy was still here.....
Giovanni Rild
11-07-2006, 02:11 PM
Savage savage rape
Luckyday
11-07-2006, 02:49 PM
If only Comic Book Guy was still here.....
What ever happen to him?:huh
Endless Mike
11-07-2006, 02:55 PM
He left because he needed to concentrate on his studies more.
Goodfellow
11-07-2006, 03:21 PM
Alright, I'll probably be proven a noob by saying Kakshi, but I'll still do it^^
Kakashi is the Batman of Naruto (alright, that's horrible horrible lies, but still =P)
(I'd say Shikamaru is teh batman, which would make Chouji Robin o.O?)
CrazyMoronX
11-07-2006, 03:26 PM
Comic book characters can never lose to Naruto characters, it's just basic facts.
Even though Kakashi is faster, can predict moves also, and has "magical" powers, he gets his ass kicked all over the universe.
Goodfellow
11-07-2006, 03:33 PM
Comic book characters can never lose to Naruto characters, it's just basic facts.
Even though Kakashi is faster, can predict moves also, and has "magical" powers, he gets his ass kicked all over the universe.
Yeah, I've always though that's kinda wierd.
jplaya2023
11-07-2006, 03:42 PM
How does cassandra counter a water suiton, or a chidori, not to mention dealing with stealth and sneak attacks.
Art of Run
11-07-2006, 04:20 PM
Using the power of Comic character > Naruto Characters.
Giovanni Rild
11-07-2006, 04:21 PM
You all know that Kakashi destroys cassie, right?
Art of Run
11-07-2006, 04:23 PM
Hell yeah.
Luckyday
11-07-2006, 07:24 PM
How does cassandra counter a water suiton, or a chidori, not to mention dealing with stealth and sneak attacks.
Well because she can predict other people's movement.
hatake404
11-07-2006, 07:44 PM
Well because she can predict other people's movement.
She predicts then Kakashi copies x]
Artificial_Sunshine
11-07-2006, 07:53 PM
Since Comic Book Guy is AWOL, I'll act as the de-facto Cassandra fangirl. (She did get me into ninja and all)
She'd pwn. Batman even admited that she's a better fighter than him.
As for the Duex Ex Machina...err, MS problem; she's like Itachi, her emotions lack; If you asked this Q before the Infinite Crisis recon (where they threw out 5 years+ of character development) then she'd have a problem, but for now she's a screwed up emotionless killer.
I'm wondering; does this fight include the Lazerus Pit (since she's the leader of the League of Assasains and all) If it does, then why are we even arguing? (Since it would make her imortal and all)
~Shin~
11-07-2006, 07:56 PM
Wow, a naruto character actually wins one after a long time
ZergKage
11-07-2006, 09:00 PM
Kakashi IMO
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 10:41 AM
Well she can dodge bullets, so if you buy the "Naruto characters can't dodge bullets" thing, then she wins.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 10:48 AM
Well she can dodge bullets, so if you buy the "Naruto characters can't dodge bullets" thing, then she wins.
such a low end example that means nothing. Kakshi nor Cain use bullets so why is this relevant???
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:02 AM
Because Kishimoto made comments that could be interpreted that Naruto characters cannot dodge bullets.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:04 AM
Because Kishimoto made comments that could be interpreted that Naruto characters cannot dodge bullets.
Again, why is that relevant for this battle when neither party uses bullets???
thats like me saying i can breathe in space and u cant, and we fight on earth
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:21 AM
It's because it would mean that since Cassie is fast enough to dodge bullets and Kakashi isn't, then she's faster than he is and can beat him up before he can react.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:23 AM
It's because it would mean that since Cassie is fast enough to dodge bullets and Kakashi isn't, then she's faster than he is and can beat him up before he can react.
okay, all you had to say was that she was faster in your opinion. And no she wouldnt beat kakashi before he can react unless she moves FTL which she doesnt. Not to mention 3 tomoe sharigan coming into play and him dodging her attacks and owning her with MS or a big ass suiton
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:25 AM
What are you talking about? No one in Naruto moves anywhere near lightspeed. And it was confirmed that the Sharingan is useless if your opponent moves too fast for you to react to.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:27 AM
What are you talking about? No one in Naruto moves anywhere near lightspeed. And it was confirmed that the Sharingan is useless if your opponent moves too fast for you to react to.
no i said unless cain moves at lightspeed kakashi still is able to predict her attacks and movements using sharigan.
The reason sasuke had trouble with lee is because his sharigan only had 1 tomoe, and he just got his, while kakashi has had his sharigan for atleast 10 years and its fully developed.
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:29 AM
And your proof that it can do anything against someone who moves close to lightspeed? It doesn't matter if you see it in advance if you can't make your body move fast enough to do anything about it.
The Sharingan works by analyzing body movements to predict someone's next movement, if someone was moving near lightspeed they would be completely invisible so the Sharingan would have nothing to even analyze.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:31 AM
And your proof that it can do anything against someone who moves close to lightspeed? It doesn't matter if you see it in advance if you can't make your body move fast enough to do anything about it.
The Sharingan works by analyzing body movements to predict someone's next movement, if someone was moving near lightspeed they would be completely invisible so the Sharingan would have nothing to even analyze.
lol show me proof cain moves "near" lightspeed LMAOOO
and if u think kakashi would sit out there in the open instead of attacking using stealth your crazy.
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:33 AM
I never stated she moves anywhere near lightspeed. At most she moves sound speed.
I'm talking about your statement that the sharingan can predict and react to anyone who moves under lightspeed.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:38 AM
I never stated she moves anywhere near lightspeed. At most she moves sound speed.
I'm talking about your statement that the sharingan can predict and react to anyone who moves under lightspeed.
Lee with gates moves at sound speed, gai is faster than sound, kakashi is problably around sound speed, not to mention he uses sharigan. So you act is if cain is on another plateau as far as speed in which kakashi cant fathon which just isnt true.
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:40 AM
Lee with gates moves at sound speed
False. Never stated in canon.
gai is faster than sound
False. Never stated in canon.
kakashi is problably around sound speed
Prove it.
not to mention he uses sharigan. So you act is if cain is on another plateau as far as speed in which kakashi cant fathon which just isnt true.
I'm merely using the fact that she can dodge bullets and, if you interpret Kishimoto, Naruto characters cannot.
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:43 AM
False. Never stated in canon.
False. Never stated in canon.
Prove it.
I'm merely using the fact that she can dodge bullets and, if you interpret Kishimoto, Naruto characters cannot.
Its interprited in canon as such.
You keep using this dodge bullets thing as a crutch, okay lets say she is faster, kakashi wouldnt exaclty be out in the open he'll be using stealth, his superior sense of smell, and various types of seals to win this battle. There is no conceiveable way for cain to win this battle, when she's outclassed in everything except, speed, and agility.
Endless Mike
11-08-2006, 11:50 AM
Its interprited in canon as such.
Prove it.
You keep using this dodge bullets thing as a crutch, okay lets say she is faster, kakashi wouldnt exaclty be out in the open he'll be using stealth, his superior sense of smell, and various types of seals to win this battle. There is no conceiveable way for cain to win this battle, when she's outclassed in everything except, speed, and agility.
And he automatically starts off hidden somewhere?:notrust
jplaya2023
11-08-2006, 11:54 AM
Prove it.
And he automatically starts off hidden somewhere?:notrust
well he is a ninja of course, attacking someone out in the open without examining their movement is stupid. Look at the neiji, kidomaru fight
He left because he needed to concentrate on his studies more.
He still replay on Superherohype though.
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