View Full Version : Gaara: Naruto's evil twin?
Kunoichi no Kiri
01-12-2005, 02:38 AM
No, I don't mean that literally, like they had the same parents or something. But going over past episodes, something occured to be: there are ALOT of parallels between Gaara and Naruto. Some of which are:
1. Parentless
2. Looked down upon
3. Imbued with a monster...
4. Looking for recognition and love (in totally different places)
5. Hairstyle :P
Anyway there are more parallels then can be explained by coincidence.
This lends credence to an old theory, something that can be supposed by extrapolating #3 to another level...
6. Both imbued with a monster...by their fathers
7. who were Kages.
Thoughts?
Yeah and that Gaara saw himself in Naruto and Naruto saw himself in Gaara. Even had that image flashing over one another thing...
Sh33p
01-12-2005, 04:46 AM
It occurred to me recently(with much help from posts I`ve seen on this board >_> ) that Gaara and Naruto are a whole lot more similar than they first appear to be. I`m not talking about the similarities that Naruto and Gaara themselves point out, either, or the most obvious ones(being hated and feared/ignored by villagers, being lonelier than Hell, being possessed by demons, etc.). After a lot of thought, I came upon the idea that maybe their similarities go as far back as birth.
We all know that the Kyuubi wasn`t sealed in Naruto until some time after his birth. I`m not arguing that. What I`m suggesting is that his mother, whoever she was, died in childbirth. Perhaps it was just an exceedingly difficult pregnancy, and perhaps she was wounded somehow in the days before she gave birth, but regardless, he unwittingly wound up killing her as she gave birth to him.
Just like how Gaara killed his mother as he was born.
As a result, the villagers immediately viewed his birth as a bad omen, because this sort of thing may not be very common even in a Shinobi village.
Within one year of Naruto`s birth, the Kyuubi attacks. Yondaime executes Shiki Fuujin, but for whatever reason, is forced to seal up the Nine-Tails in the belly of a baby. He chooses Naruto, who may or may not be his own son, because he feels that Naruto`s tragic birth has already strengthened his own spirit and made him a worthy container to such an awesome force.
Yondaime dies. Naruto gets saddled with the Kyuubi.
Now, not only did he enter the world by killing his own mother, his birth was an omen of Kyuubi`s coming attack. He`s also viewed as being directly responsible for Yondaime`s death because Shiki Fuujin`s existence isn`t common knowledge(remember: Orochimaru didn`t know about it, and it appeared likely to me that not too many others would either) and he was found at the site of the battle with the Seal marked onto his stomach, lying near Yondaime`s dead body.
As if that all wasn`t bad enough, what if his father really was Yondaime? And what if his mother was some sort of beloved village leader, or a well-known doctor/priestess/Shinobi/whatever?
Not only does he already bear all of these sins, both real and imagined, he also is viewed as the direct cause of the demise of both the village`s Hokage and his wife. A real devil child, if ya catch my drift.
Because of this, even though he may be Yondaime`s son, or even just a child from his clan or simply a godchild or something close to him, the village despises him. They hate his guts and, were it not for Sarutobi`s laws and probably also his personal protection of Naruto, they would`ve probably killed him before he could walk.
Just like Gaara`s village probably would`ve done to him if not for the Kazekage`s protection, and after that protection died away, the will of the sand.
Thoughts? o_o
tri-sapphire
01-12-2005, 04:53 AM
Not sure, but I think most of the villagers knew about shiki fuujin, otherwise their knowledge of the demon being in naruto would have no reasoning.
Secondly, it showed Naruto in the middle of a bunch of seals on a platform, so we know that the whole ritual wasn't a secret.
Other than that, it is very likely that Naruto's mother died in childbirth, or was killed by the Kyuubi not long after giving birth. I've always thought that Naruto and Gaara were very much alike, and there might be more left uncovered.
d1eg0
01-12-2005, 11:28 AM
the only diference was that naruto had friends
Koeter13
01-12-2005, 11:58 AM
i thought the kazekage´s still alive
Insipidipity
01-12-2005, 11:59 AM
Um...I think theres a couple threads out there like this already(two sides of the same coin comes to mind) Anyways, Gaara and Naruto had have to similar lives in order for Naruto to understand him better. Hence why he thinks "he's just like me". If he didn't, he mightve finished him off when they were fighting, instead of arguing about where true strength comes from
d1eg0
01-12-2005, 12:10 PM
orochimaru killed him
stormrunner
01-12-2005, 12:21 PM
No, I don't mean that literally, like they had the same parents or something. But going over past episodes, something occured to be: there are ALOT of parallels between Gaara and Naruto. Some of which are:
1. Parentless
2. Looked down upon
3. Imbued with a monster...
4. Looking for recognition and love (in totally different places)
5. Hairstyle :P
Anyway there are more parallels then can be explained by coincidence.
This lends credence to an old theory, something that can be supposed by extrapolating #3 to another level...
6. Both imbued with a monster...by their fathers
7. who were Kages.
Thoughts?Just one flaw with this. Since the fight with Naruto, Gaara has been nothing but good (to those he love) since Naruto was able to defeat him
Sannin_WA
01-12-2005, 01:18 PM
Gaara is what Naruto would have become like if it hadn't been for Iruka and the Third (and later Kakashi, Sakura and Sasuke). They are/were alike and at the same time each others opposite.
That's why Naruto feared Gaara until their fight in the forest. He had experienced the same pain of loneliness and understood why Gaara had become such a monster...
itachi_kage
01-12-2005, 01:20 PM
the best picture in the anime/manga is when naruto and gaara shared a face. when half the face was gaara and the other half is naruto. i guess that was symbolism, showing that they're the same yet naruto's now found friends, and after that gaara started to care about his friends.
Nyarlathotep
01-12-2005, 03:02 PM
I merged Sh33p's thread since it was about exactly the same thing.
Rurouni
01-12-2005, 05:03 PM
Yeah, they are very similar in many ways. The only difference is that Gaara is more darker than Naruto because Naruto had someone like Iruka to look up to.
Omote Renge
01-12-2005, 05:18 PM
I think it was Kishimoto's intention to make them so similar. Except Gaara thought he was stronger because he cared only about himself and Naruto thought he was stronger because he cared about everyone but himself. But Gaara isn't so evil after Naruto beat him.
Sh33p
01-12-2005, 05:47 PM
I merged Sh33p's thread since it was about exactly the same thing.
Uh... Yeah >_> Sorry about that.
Kamendex
01-12-2005, 06:13 PM
Not sure, but I think most of the villagers knew about shiki fuujin, otherwise their knowledge of the demon being in naruto would have no reasoning.
Secondly, it showed Naruto in the middle of a bunch of seals on a platform, so we know that the whole ritual wasn't a secret.
Other than that, it is very likely that Naruto's mother died in childbirth, or was killed by the Kyuubi not long after giving birth. I've always thought that Naruto and Gaara were very much alike, and there might be more left uncovered.
I read that and it got me thinking, this is just a shot in the dark but maybe the villagers didnt know that kyuubi was sealed, maybe they didnt know what shika fuujin was; what if.....
They think Naruto is the Kyuubi reincarnated since he was only known of after that day
well thats my theory on why they dont like him
And the room we see naruto in looks very secretive, its really dark and only the candles light it up
ramp3
01-13-2005, 01:02 AM
I really don't think so.
The sealment we're different, we saw the seal going into naruto, and kyuubi and shukaku are way different monsters, I really don't think so.
GarraGirl
01-13-2005, 01:13 AM
No, I don't mean that literally, like they had the same parents or something. But going over past episodes, something occured to be: there are ALOT of parallels between Gaara and Naruto. Some of which are:
1. Parentless
2. Looked down upon
3. Imbued with a monster...
4. Looking for recognition and love (in totally different places)
5. Hairstyle :P
Anyway there are more parallels then can be explained by coincidence.
This lends credence to an old theory, something that can be supposed by extrapolating #3 to another level...
6. Both imbued with a monster...by their fathers
7. who were Kages.
Thoughts?
yeah...they both had the same past....the only difference is that..
Naruto: even though people turned there backs to him and called him a monster he wanted to proof to them that he can do it...that he could became hokage someday....
Gaara: people turned there backs to him and he wanted to seek revenge to kill everything that crossed is path..he became THE monster because people wanted him that way.
Garra is a demostracion of what Naruto would of become if he didn't look towards the positive side...it all explains it in the episode Naruto is fighting Gaara(forgot what number it was).
KittenNinja
01-13-2005, 10:09 AM
Possibly gaara turned out that way cos he lost the person who was most important to him at one time (not his mom btw), but his caretaker (geez i forgot her name!). If i do remember, gaara was a pretty nice kid when he was young. But only when people gave him the "eye" or rejected him in someway or another he would give in to his hate and so on and squash em to bits.
Note: Wonder where gaara kept his sand when he was young...i dont see a barrel anywhere
Esponer
01-13-2005, 12:09 PM
Not sure, but I think most of the villagers knew about shiki fuujin, otherwise their knowledge of the demon being in naruto would have no reasoning.
I disagree. Orochimaru didn't know what the Third was using against him, and if anybody should have known of Shiki Fuujin, it should have been Orochimaru (can you think of a single ninja in Konoha who would have been more interested in learning what jutsu it was that had defeated Kyuubi than him?)
Clearly the villagers know that the Nine-Tails was sealed, but it seems like they don't know much about the actual nature of the jutsu.
Off topic:
Just a random thought, actually: Sarutobi seemed bloody scared when Orochimaru was about to summon the Fourth to fight for him. Was he really that scared of fighting the Fourth? He was already fighting his best student and his two mentors... how the hell strong was the Fourth for him to get scared of him but not the other three? Aye, Yondaime was strong, maybe the strongest of the four Hokages... but still.
Maybe Sarutobi's sudden fear was because Orochimaru thought the Fourth *could* be summoned, and Sarutobi knew that because of something to do with the nature of Shiki Fuujin and the Fourth being in the Death God's stomach, summoning the Fourth would *not* have been pretty. Maybe released the Death God Shinigami itself?
majin-kurisu
12-23-2007, 12:28 PM
Wow...Congratulations. You have stumbled upon the BLATENTLY OBVIOUS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN NARUTO AND GAARA! The points that you have made are ment to be clearly read and noticed by the viewer. Rofl.
Madara Uchiha
12-23-2007, 01:42 PM
yah it made sense its just taht naruto had friends and garra didnt
PisOgPapir
12-23-2007, 02:59 PM
Yeah this has been stated by naruto, how many times now?
Genesis
12-23-2007, 05:12 PM
Don't necro bump and flamebait.
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