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Nice Gai
10-25-2006, 11:46 AM
Samurai Jack he is able to use the Shinobi of light if he needs to. If you havent seen what Jack can do in that form here is a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O83Iay0BCM

Kakashi is timeskip

Who do you think will win?

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 11:51 AM
kakashi rapes jack time light or not. How does jack counter a chidori going through his heart?

Scum
10-25-2006, 11:57 AM
i think kakashi takes this...

for one Jack hasn't shown superior speed to kakashi so kakashi could use his sharingan to keep up with him; in the fight you showed it's not like Jack went invisible or anything like that, and even if that happened sharingan follows energy signature(chakra) of a person so he wouldn't lose sight of him.

two, Jack isn't genjutsu proof(as far as I know..) and Kakashi could trap him in the same genjutsu Zabuza was trapped in

Just cause Jack has a sword that cuts through anything doesn't mean he'll beat kakashi easily T_T I think kakashi can take this as long as he traps him in a genjutsu and somehow disarms jack

i'd say kakashi outclasses jack in speed and intelligence as well as a variety of techniques...all jack has is a sword(according to that clip)

kennethnarutofan
10-25-2006, 12:40 PM
kakashi you morooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oon:mad

Endless Mike
10-25-2006, 02:33 PM
kakashi rapes jack time light or not. How does jack counter a chidori going through his heart?

By not getting hit, obviously.

Jack is fast enough to beat 10 guys before a cup of water dropped from a few feet up hits the ground. He's soloed armies and his sword can cut through virtually anything.

Scum
10-25-2006, 02:50 PM
well kakashi appears and disappears in a blink of an eye(well something to that effect)...it doesn't matter if his sword can cut through anything, kakashi can keep up via sharingan and use genjutsu to beat jack

Hamaru
10-25-2006, 02:58 PM
Kakashi is used to fighting people stronger so ill go with Kakashi

Sasori
10-25-2006, 02:58 PM
Not if Jack is moving faster than Kakashi can keep up with.

It's Sasuke vs Lee all over again.

He could see Lee's movements, but his body wasn't fast enough to react to it.

Just like in this battle.

Kunoichi no Kiri
10-25-2006, 03:08 PM
Jack isn't that fast. :/

Jack's advantage is that the entire (episodic) series is based around him, therefore he never loses, while Kakashi is secondary and can afford to be beaten into bed for a few weeks.

Put them both on the same tier of characters and Kakashi rapes Jack seven ways to Sunday.

Endless Mike
10-25-2006, 03:13 PM
You must be joking. Jack can jump hundreds of feet in the air, soloes armies, ran hundreds of meters in a few seconds while dodging thousands of arrows fired with perfect precision by magically - enhanced archers while he was blindfolded, survived re - entry, cut through adamantium, need I go on?

Kunoichi no Kiri
10-25-2006, 03:24 PM
He also gets cut to pieces by some weak robots on a daily basis, beaten silly by a drunk Scotsman, etc, I don't remember the series that well, the art bugged me. :/

The point is that Jack does what he needs to do to win at the end of every episode.

Kimimaro
10-25-2006, 03:34 PM
He also gets cut to pieces by some weak robots on a daily basis
When?
beaten silly by a drunk Scotsman, etc, I don't remember the series that well, the art bugged me. :/

Actually, no he wasn't. They were pretty equal in sword fighting. That "drunk" Scotsman was also able to beat armies of robots. (i.e. look at the episode where they save his wife)

The point is that Jack does what he needs to do to win at the end of every episode.

Not all of them. He lost against that blue guy when he tried to access that time portal.

Bad Pornography
10-25-2006, 03:44 PM
Kakashi. I think he is way more advanced.

Emery
10-25-2006, 04:58 PM
lol

Fanboys.

If you've ever watched Samurai Jack..you would see there's no way Kakashi could win.

Pipboy
10-25-2006, 05:19 PM
Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of ownage.
jack fell down and broke through time.
And jill came tumbling after
Up Jack got and killing robot armiesas fast as he could caper
He went along and fought a scot with a machine gun for a leg
As well as alien armies and demons

Long story short, no .... jack in a landslide of doom.

Scum
10-25-2006, 05:54 PM
You must be joking. Jack can jump hundreds of feet in the air, soloes armies, ran hundreds of meters in a few seconds while dodging thousands of arrows fired with perfect precision by magically - enhanced archers while he was blindfolded, survived re - entry, cut through adamantium, need I go on?

well if those feats were actually posted by the thread maker, it would've been apparent that Kakashi doesn't have much of a chance. I didn't follow Jack much, I just knew he sword cut through nearly anything but didn't know of his godlike speed

Purgatory
10-25-2006, 06:11 PM
If Jack doesn't know about that attack Kakashi uses with Mangekyou, then Kakashi wins. If he does, he MIGHT have a chance. And yes, I watched Samurai Jack..a rather boring show, in my opinion. If Jack somehow can evade MS, then no doubt he'll get killed by Raikiri. If memory serves me, Raikiri is known to cut lightning itself, so it should have no problem against a samurai.

Emery
10-25-2006, 06:16 PM
LOL!

Narutard.


Jack will NEVER be hit with Raikiri. He's WAY too fast for that. And Kakashi's only mangekyou attack is the dimension-warper, which he even states HIMSELF that he has poor aim with.

There's -nothing- Kakashi could do against Jack. NOTHING.

Suzumebachi
10-25-2006, 06:48 PM
Ah, I see once again that Blue massively underrates a show because she doesn't like it.


Samurai Jack wins. He's the much better ninja. And...everything else too.

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 06:54 PM
Samurai Jack wins. He's the much better ninja. And...everything else too.

the hell? baka!

care to back up your claims instead of spouting your usuall garbage

Endless Mike
10-25-2006, 06:57 PM
the hell? baka!

care to back up your claims instead of spouting your usuall garbage

Watch the episode "Samurai vs. Ninja" first episode of season 4.

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 06:59 PM
Watch the episode "Samurai vs. Ninja" first episode of season 4.

youtube link?

Endless Mike
10-25-2006, 07:01 PM
Best I could find was an AMV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh30raDlWrk

Purgatory
10-25-2006, 07:15 PM
Ah, I see once again that Blue massively underrates a show because she doesn't like it.


Samurai Jack wins. He's the much better ninja. And...everything else too.

He's a SAMURAI

Endless Mike
10-25-2006, 07:19 PM
Yes but he also has ninja skills.

Purgatory
10-25-2006, 07:19 PM
LOL!

Narutard.


Jack will NEVER be hit with Raikiri. He's WAY too fast for that. And Kakashi's only mangekyou attack is the dimension-warper, which he even states HIMSELF that he has poor aim with.

There's -nothing- Kakashi could do against Jack. NOTHING.

*CoughPlotNoJutsuCough*

Giovanni Rild
10-25-2006, 07:21 PM
Kakashi is nothing to Jack . Samurai Jack's abilities

As a boy, Jack traveled around the world to prepare both physically and mentally for his confrontation with Aku. Jack visited many civilizations in ancient times, including China, Egypt, Central Africa, Greece, Norway, Mongolia and northern Europe. He attempted to master each art of combat from the cultures he met. He trained with viking sailors, Robin Hood, shaolin monks, the Greek Olympic contestants and several others. Jack has a complete mastery of sword, staff, spear, bow, unarmed and mounted combat, though unarmed combat is of limited effectiveness against robots and cyborgs. He is highly adaptable, able to intuitively grasp the controls, potential combat functionality, and weaknesses of highly advanced technology even when first encountering it. Jack is also knowledgeable about the mystic and arcane, though he does not demonstrate the ability to use magic. He is very good with animals and can befriend them quite easily.

Jack is exceptionally skilled in the martial arts and follows Bushido strictly. After some training with rather large boulders as weights, Jack gains the ability to leap several stories into the air - the forest creatures who taught him this technique refer to it as "Jump Good." Jack's jumps elevate him so high that he appears to be flying (as stated by Aku). His reflexes are excellent: he is able to block bullets fired by machine guns with his sword and overwhelm hundreds of opponents at once with sheer speed and skill. He also becomes skilled in a specialized form of ninjutsu. Even Aku fears Jack, mostly because Jack's sword is one of the few things able to dangerously harm him.

In certain episodes, Jack uses abilities that he never uses again (similar to Aku), such as his ability to hide in bright light, seen in episode XL, "Samurai vs Ninja". However, this is more of an artistic effect than an ability of Jack's, as the purpose of that episode is to show his battle against a ninja clad in black clothes. Their fight takes place in a stylized setting of abrupt light and shadow, with Jack showing up against the black background and the ninja becoming visible against the light.

[edit] Jack's katana

Jack's magic katana was forged by the gods Odin, Ra and Rama through 3 mortal avatars. The sword's main component is the pure spirit of good that humans possess, extracted from Jack's father and then hammered and forged into a katana. The katana is preserved and maintained by Jack's ancestors and is one of the few weapons capable of destroying Aku. The sword has many unique qualities:

* It is incapable of being broken or shattered.
* It is very sharp; the sword is capable of cutting through almost anything, even the hardest metal. Once Jack sliced an arrow with a jewel tip in half simply by putting the blade in the path of the arrow.
* The sword seems to have a mind of its own: at one point it refused to cut down a helpless deer for Jack's consumption.
* Aku once succeeded in stealing the sword and attempted to kill Jack with it, but he was unable to pierce Jack's skin with the sword because it can't hurt those who are good and pure of heart.
o Though the sword was unable to harm Jack, it has been known to harm those who are good in a few episodes. For example, in an episode about an old model of robots that was given emotions, the robot was forced to fight the samurai and the samurai destroyed him with the sword. Also, in an episode where Jack is infected with Aku's pure evil essence, Aku uses the sword to attack some reptilian monks who aren't cut by the sword but are clearly hurt by

Suzumebachi
10-25-2006, 07:23 PM
Yes but he also has ninja skills.

And all the other skills too. Do people really not remember the FIRST EPISODE that shows Jack going all over the world, training in all forms of martial arts? The whole idea of him is that he's the ultimate warrior. He knows every fighting style there is, this is stated.

EDIT: Here's the ninja vs samurai fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O83Iay0BCM

Giovanni Rild
10-25-2006, 07:25 PM
And all the other skills too. Do people really not remember the FIRST EPISODE that shows Jack going all over the world, training in all forms of martial arts? The whole idea of him is that he's the ultimate warrior. He knows every fighting style there is, this is stated.

People have made their minds up. No reason to debate any more.

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 07:25 PM
* Aku once succeeded in stealing the sword and attempted to kill Jack with it, but he was unable to pierce Jack's skin with the sword because it can't hurt those who are good and pure of heart.

well jack wont be able to beat kakashi with his katana so he's even more owened than before

Pipboy
10-25-2006, 07:26 PM
How about awesome no jutus? The entire first episode details how jack recieved training in every possible weapon and style of fighting all around the world before heading back to fight aku. He only uses the sword because his sword is like excalibur a Vorpal Katana +12. So instead of being amazingly awesome with a staff he is amazingly awesome +12 with swords.

Suzumebachi
10-25-2006, 07:28 PM
* Aku once succeeded in stealing the sword and attempted to kill Jack with it, but he was unable to pierce Jack's skin with the sword because it can't hurt those who are good and pure of heart.

well jack wont be able to beat kakashi with his katana so he's even more owened than before


Actually, that's not true. Is that from Wiki? The facts are usualy not straight.

Its that the sword can't be wielded by one who is evil. Jack can hurt the pure of heart with it. Evil can't.

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 07:31 PM
Actually, that's not true. Is that from Wiki? The facts are usualy not straight.

Its that the sword can't be wielded by one who is evil. Jack can hurt the pure of heart with it. Evil can't.

so we shouldnt think to highly of the information rild posted.

Alrighty cool

Suzumebachi
10-25-2006, 07:36 PM
so we shouldnt think to highly of the information rild posted.

Alrighty cool

Actually, thats really the only thing I see wrong with it. Because later down it says: "o Though the sword was unable to harm Jack, it has been known to harm those who are good in a few episodes. "

Plus, Kakashi is not good. He murders for a living.

Giovanni Rild
10-25-2006, 07:36 PM
so we shouldnt think to highly of the information rild posted.

Alrighty cool

It's a good guess like anything from you or me. You have no room to talk about accurate info. I just don't feel like digging though youtube

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 07:44 PM
Actually, thats really the only thing I see wrong with it. Because later down it says: "o Though the sword was unable to harm Jack, it has been known to harm those who are good in a few episodes. "

Plus, Kakashi is not good. He murders for a living.

lol goku kills but he isnt pure of heart?

kakashi is just doing a job.

Perhaps we have different definitions ofwhat a pure heart is

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 07:47 PM
I just don't feel like digging

concession accepted!

Pipboy
10-25-2006, 07:57 PM
Look out thems some sharp insults. You might cuts your simple self there kiddo. I'd suggest ya'un go run backs to yah mama, she be worrin' bouts her little retard runnin around w'out minders.

Renegade
10-25-2006, 07:58 PM
*CoughPlotNoJutsuCough*
Wtf? :huh

They're two different series. Plot no Jutsu has no say in this.

SoulTaker540
10-25-2006, 07:58 PM
lol goku kills but he isnt pure of heart?

kakashi is just doing a job.

Perhaps we have different definitions ofwhat a pure heart is

Who has Goku killed that wasn't evil?

Kakashi killed a misguided 13 year old kid,lets face it he is a good guy but he isn't pure.

You're confusing pure heart for a good guy.

silleung
10-25-2006, 08:23 PM
Well, i'll say this is one interesting thread. I didn't realize that "Samurai Jack" was so detailed, I always thought it was just a random episode thing where he's constantly trying to go back to his past.

In my opinion, I reckon Kakashi would win. Even though Jack demonstrates great battle techniques and strategy, Kakashi has various ninjutsu's and techniques that could help level the playing field, such as raikiri and sharingan. Also, kage bunshin would help, Jack might take on hundreds of robots, but what about thousands of Kakashi's? lol

Paul the SK
10-25-2006, 08:33 PM
Who has Goku killed that wasn't evil?

Kakashi killed a misguided 13 year old kid,lets face it he is a good guy but he isn't pure.

You're confusing pure heart for a good guy.
Let me guess, you mean Haku right? First off, Haku is 15. Second, Kakashi was trying to kill Zabuza, who is infact a cold hearted killer. Haku just jumped in the way of the attack at the last minute and Kakashi couldn't do a thing about it.

Pipboy
10-25-2006, 08:37 PM
Kakahi is by no stretch of the american dream pure hearted. His words to Zabuza were along the lines of, 'those kids can't beat Haku because he knows the pain of being a shinobi and can kill his heart'.

He actively told zabuza that he was going to kill him once he was pinned to the tree and helpless. Kakashi is a killer, who happens to be a nice guy. He is not pure of heart.

Giovanni Rild
10-25-2006, 08:44 PM
Jack's feats outclass Kakashi's feats by a large margin. There is no debate.

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 08:55 PM
Who has Goku killed that wasn't evil?



no one thats the point

SoulTaker540
10-25-2006, 08:57 PM
Let me guess, you mean Haku right? First off, Haku is 15. Second, Kakashi was trying to kill Zabuza, who is infact a cold hearted killer. Haku just jumped in the way of the attack at the last minute and Kakashi couldn't do a thing about it.

So the 2 year difference would really make a difference?He killed a kid,and furthermore his demeanor after Haku's death was simply to continue with his fight with Zabuza.He showed no remorse for what happened to Haku.

Kakashi is a killer with a heart of gold.

Renegade
10-25-2006, 08:58 PM
no one thats the point
Wtf? :huh

How is that a point that helps Kakashi? You were comparing Kakashi to Goku. The point is Goku's never killed anyone with a good heart. Kakashi has. Capeche?

Pipboy
10-25-2006, 08:58 PM
Mr. Playa your not even speaking in complete ideas now, you know that there is no goku in this thread.

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 09:00 PM
Wtf? :huh

You were comparing Kakashi to Goku. The point is Goku's never killed anyone with a good heart. Kakashi has. Capeche?


haku wasnt kakashi's fault dont count

Pipboy
10-25-2006, 09:03 PM
Oh and what about all the others? What about killing ones heart? What about killing in cold blood. What about his attempt to nix deidara who had no arms?

Nice try but as usual you are a failure.

Renegade
10-25-2006, 09:03 PM
haku wasnt kakashi's fault dont count
Kakashi's a killer for hire. Discussion over. :oh

jplaya2023
10-25-2006, 09:09 PM
Kakashi's a killer for hire. Discussion over. :oh

kakashi's intention was to kill zabuza haku got in the way

kakashi exonerrated

Renegade
10-25-2006, 09:14 PM
kakashi's intention was to kill zabuza haku got in the way

kakashi exonerrated
He's a killer for hire. Discussion over. :oh

SoulTaker540
10-25-2006, 09:17 PM
kakashi's intention was to kill zabuza haku got in the way

kakashi exonerrated


Kakashi had no remorse for his actions,and to a degree he agreed with Zabuza's belief that shinobi are tools.Therefore life is expendable for the betterment of the village to a degree in his eyes.

ShangDOh
10-25-2006, 11:37 PM
I'll give this to Jack.

Can anyone honestly tell me that Kakashi can solo entire Robotic armies, totally demolish a supernatural being with power rivaling that of the Kyuubi, fight in outer space with nothing but a sword? The answer is no. Jack owns this.

Nice Gai
10-26-2006, 12:05 PM
well if those feats were actually posted by the thread maker, it would've been apparent that Kakashi doesn't have much of a chance. I didn't follow Jack much, I just knew he sword cut through nearly anything but didn't know of his godlike speed

Then why would post if you didnt know his feats? If you needed feats all you had to do was ask. My Bad. But thanks I will take this into consideration when I am making new threads to put all detail of each character. So I appreciate the info. Personally this thread was to prove a point to someone and I hope he got his answer.

Scum
10-26-2006, 02:24 PM
i posted in response to the clip you posted...I thought that was the best example of what he could do so I wasn't impressed -_-

Nice Gai
10-26-2006, 02:32 PM
i posted in response to the clip you posted...I thought that was the best example of what he could do so I wasn't impressed -_-

Ok cool no prob now I know how to make an effecient thread now. My forgiveness Please. jksmile-big