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haearnbran
01-11-2005, 10:14 PM
This is for the people who are or close to the age of high school students.

Anyone feel like you are wasting your life and are held down by a society that does not like change and cant bear to think of any other way of growing up other than going to school, then college, then work, then family, then retirement, then death? I'm not even out of high school yet I wish that life wasn't so defined as it is today (at least in Illinois). If I were to try living another way of life, of learning things at other places than school, I couldn't succeed in doing anything I wanted because people would look at me as weird. I know learning is important and I want to learn, but I also want to live as someone who is alive, not someone who follows the beaten path of others. Any thoughts?

basiK
01-11-2005, 10:17 PM
well life just sucks....
here hav a cookie *gives cookie*
=]

haearnbran
01-11-2005, 10:36 PM
I feel like I was reborn :p

StoneWalker
01-11-2005, 10:43 PM
I don't have time to waste my time. In this final year of highschool, I am FREAKING out majorly. Too much stress, yes, but I use to think that I've wasted alot of time. Now I can't be bothered to think of those times. All I can think about is what lies ahead (and n ext week, when a truckload of assignments are due. I even have to write a freakin' Review of Literature. 2500 words + collation, other crap, and written-out responses to 10 open-question interviews I had to conduct o.0;;;;; THE HORROR!!)

Doing things like chatting on the phone or going online (like posting at message board) is a sigh of relief for me. I feel like I'm wasting time sometimes, but I don't want to over-work myself (like pulling 3 all-nighters near midterm. god, what a nightmarish experience)


note: feel free to skip my post, as it appears non-readable.

I need a cup of coffee: the one substance I hate more than rainwater.

haearnbran
01-11-2005, 10:44 PM
well ur the example of what im talking about, which isn't bad and that is how my life is right now (its not like im idlely sitting in a chair), but I feel like I should living differently.

Yukimura
01-11-2005, 10:52 PM
We're wasting our time alright.

I can't remember who, but I do remember this quote on someone's blog/post: "Anime is here to taunt us of the life we can't have."

How true.

StoneWalker
01-11-2005, 10:54 PM
damn true. how I wish I had as many lucky breaks as those anime characters. *sigh*


well ur the example of what im talking about, which isn't bad and that is how my life is right now (its not like im idlely sitting in a chair), but I feel like I should living differently.

Like how? these are the good 'ol days. Parents always tell you "enjoy what you have now, because hell is creeping up on you." I can't imagine what hell would be like compared to my stress-levels now o.0;;

things to remember in those senior highschool years: excersise, drink water (bring a bottle to class, you're allowed to), and get as much fresh air as possible. These things are hard to stick to.
I can't wait until its all over, even if its for a little while. I feel your pain, man.

Uchiha Cephas
01-11-2005, 11:04 PM
at least u guys are stressed. i am 21 , out of school for two years, been sitting in my room barely leaving it, because i couldnt deal with the stress in highschool. i didnt study enough to get into a university not even a decent one, just any, and now i dont know what i am doing with my life. my life is all movies , and anime. its good that u guys and girls have stress, i didnt deal with it and i am basically a bum, if i didnt have nice parents, i would be out on the street robbing banks. ehh man i am such a depressed man.

haearnbran
01-11-2005, 11:29 PM
damn true. how I wish I had as many lucky breaks as those anime characters. *sigh*




Like how? these are the good 'ol days. Parents always tell you "enjoy what you have now, because hell is creeping up on you." I can't imagine what hell would be like compared to my stress-levels now o.0;;

things to remember in those senior highschool years: excersise, drink water (bring a bottle to class, you're allowed to), and get as much fresh air as possible. These things are hard to stick to.
I can't wait until its all over, even if its for a little while. I feel your pain, man.


The how is that u (and I, but im a junior) go to school and cant do anything else. We cant decide what we want to do until college and by then closeminded adulthood creeps in and we may not want to do anything else. If kids were allowed to study many things until a younger age and then move toward a specific field of study early and have the freedom to choose whether or not to live the way everyone lives now, then I would feel like I was living the life I wanted and that I wasn't wasting my time now. I am defining wasting as doing something i was forced to do and may or may not enjoy. I guess I have my head in the clouds with the rest of my body following daily routine.

¤Naruto-Kun¤
01-11-2005, 11:39 PM
well life just sucks....
here hav a cookie *gives cookie*
=]

thats why i smoke mary jane, she eases the pain for me and gives me the giggles than the munchies :P

haearnbran
01-11-2005, 11:57 PM
thats why i smoke mary jane, she eases the pain for me and gives me the giggles than the munchies :P

even if I were to do that consistantly, it wouldn't remove everyday life. Plus I like my brain the way it is and don't want to mess with it. :blink

B32
01-12-2005, 02:24 AM
I always feel like I'm wasting my time when I'm not learning or doing something productive.

Moro
01-12-2005, 03:15 AM
hey why do you think we watch anime and play games and such

it's all forms of escapism, when you're watching naruto, for that 20 minutes you're in a different world, you're somebdoy else living an exciting action filled life
thats what movies and anime and games are all about, it's a tool we use to escape the day to day-ness of our live's, it's like a little break from reality, experiencing things you aren't able to actually do

momodesu
01-12-2005, 03:53 AM
It's not so much the way of life that I think is wasting my time, but at the end of the day before I fall asleep, I always wonder what I did on that day. Most of the time, I can't think of anything that was ever going to make much of an impact on my life. Every day is just the same ...

name
01-12-2005, 04:36 AM
Interesting, then momodesu what would you like the world to be?

momodesu
01-12-2005, 07:56 AM
Interesting, then momodesu what would you like the world to be?

I'm not sure, but it's hard to think of a way for the world to work other than how it works now. xDD;

Ronin_Musashi
01-12-2005, 07:28 PM
If kids were allowed to study many things until a younger age and then move toward a specific field of study early and have the freedom to choose whether or not to live the way everyone lives now, then I would feel like I was living the life I wanted and that I wasn't wasting my time now. I am defining wasting as doing something i was forced to do and may or may not enjoy

Ummm....that's pretty much the way things ARE in America at least. You DO have the freedom to do whatever you want, as long as you help others to do what they want too. I used to think like you, but I came to find that we have many unreasonable desires in life that cause us to think this way. Think about it, what would you do if you had the time to do anything you wanted? Does that relate to an occupation? If it does, than go explore that occupation further. If it doesn't...well...wouldn't that be wasting time too? What does 'wasting time' even mean? If it means that you are doing things you don't want to do, well, that's life; with the good comes the bad.

My advise to you is to find something that you are interested in; a passion. It doesn't matter what it is, pursue it. I myself am pursuing philosophy and martial arts; not exactly the most marketable interests, but they have occupations nonetheless. For example, I could become a Philosophy teacher. Now, sure, it's not the highest paying career and I won't always get to do what I want (grading papers for example= :xp); but I CAN pursue my interests in this way; and to me, that's all that really matters. So go out and find yourself a passion. Don't just think "oh, all I like to do is sit around and watch TV", because I know you don't. Think of that feeling you get after you watch TV or whatever and get nothing done the whole day. Feels pretty bad, huh? You probably feel like you've wasted your time there too. So basically, go out there and find something to do so you don't "waste" your time...

ThiefKing
01-12-2005, 08:31 PM
Whoah man, that is exactly what I was thinking about today, what's after school? Work, what's after work, and what's after work? Nothing, it just seems so pointless. So, after coming to that conclusion, I left ^^ I skipped out on school today and wandered around the city for awhile. Though I then saw that that was pointless as well, so I guess...there really isn't a point to anything, more so since you already know what's at the "finish line", death.


Really kind of depressing, but then, you've got to live life for what it's worth, have fun, try new things, don't get drug down into the pit of soceity, break free and make of your life what you want ^^

haearnbran
01-12-2005, 09:19 PM
hey why do you think we watch anime and play games and such

it's all forms of escapism, when you're watching naruto, for that 20 minutes you're in a different world, you're somebdoy else living an exciting action filled life
thats what movies and anime and games are all about, it's a tool we use to escape the day to day-ness of our live's, it's like a little break from reality, experiencing things you aren't able to actually do

Well this I find true, and while many things are some what hard to do (flying, getting cut up in a billion places and recovering), other stuff is not as far-fetched as people think.

ItAcHi21989
01-12-2005, 09:23 PM
wat brought u to this forum.... ur love for naruto... and wen u watch that ur happy....
or is that the weed i smoked talkin * puff the dragon flies and i jump on his back

haearnbran
01-12-2005, 09:27 PM
Ummm....that's pretty much the way things ARE in America at least. You DO have the freedom to do whatever you want, as long as you help others to do what they want too. I used to think like you, but I came to find that we have many unreasonable desires in life that cause us to think this way. Think about it, what would you do if you had the time to do anything you wanted? Does that relate to an occupation? If it does, than go explore that occupation further. If it doesn't...well...wouldn't that be wasting time too? What does 'wasting time' even mean? If it means that you are doing things you don't want to do, well, that's life; with the good comes the bad.

My advise to you is to find something that you are interested in; a passion. It doesn't matter what it is, pursue it. I myself am pursuing philosophy and martial arts; not exactly the most marketable interests, but they have occupations nonetheless. For example, I could become a Philosophy teacher. Now, sure, it's not the highest paying career and I won't always get to do what I want (grading papers for example= :xp); but I CAN pursue my interests in this way; and to me, that's all that really matters. So go out and find yourself a passion. Don't just think "oh, all I like to do is sit around and watch TV", because I know you don't. Think of that feeling you get after you watch TV or whatever and get nothing done the whole day. Feels pretty bad, huh? You probably feel like you've wasted your time there too. So basically, go out there and find something to do so you don't "waste" your time...

Your kidding yourself if u think that america is the land of the free, because it is just oppressive any other form of government. How exactly am I free to do what I want? I have to go to school to make sure that doors are not locked when I'm older. I can never own my own land, because there are taxes on land, so if I just wanted to live by growing my own food, I would still need to make money. America used to be free, while there was still a frontier, but when that closed, there was no longer any place to go in America that was not watched by the government.
As for finding a passion, my original question is asking for people to think about how they went about persuing their passion and if the way the world works now doesn't feel right. My passion would be to travel the world and be able to come back to a country that has more than one way of living life.

Keramachi
01-13-2005, 05:16 PM
It's not so much the way of life that I think is wasting my time, but at the end of the day before I fall asleep, I always wonder what I did on that day. Most of the time, I can't think of anything that was ever going to make much of an impact on my life. Every day is just the same ...Many students, including myself, feel the same way. I just take things one day at a time, making sure to enjoy life along the way. Why bother getting upset? Once you feel that you're wasting time, it seems to snowball into an overly cynical attitude. I couldn't live with myself if that were to happen to me.

Ronin_Musashi
01-13-2005, 07:27 PM
How exactly am I free to do what I want? I have to go to school to make sure that doors are not locked when I'm older. I can never own my own land, because there are taxes on land, so if I just wanted to live by growing my own food, I would still need to make money. America used to be free, while there was still a frontier, but when that closed, there was no longer any place to go in America that was not watched by the government.
First of all, I don't want to sound rude, but boo-fucking-hoo. That's life; You've got to work to get things that you want. No one deserves anything in this world, and no one gets anything for free. Go to any country in the world, same thing goes on. Don't like it, tough. You've either got to deal with it or don't live it at all.
Secondly, don't go blaming your problems on the government. That's too simple. The government is not watching us and it's not out to get you. It exists only because people decided that they wanted to give up some of their rights (like property) in order to be protected. The frontier that you refer to was a dog-eat-dog land where the strong dominated the weak. What you have is a false romanticism about that time, most likely due to a lack of understanding or research about it. Life was tough back then; probably worse than it is now.
Third, I DON'T think that America is the land of the free. But you know what, it's closer than any other country in the world will ever get. In America, you can go out and GRAB what you want. We don't have caste systems or anything else holding us down. You want wealth or power or property or any other kind of tangible thing? You can go get it; but you've got to work your ass off too.

haearnbran
01-16-2005, 07:25 PM
Let's take this point by point. Yes I am complaining, so there is no getting around that. As for the choice of living with what I consider to be a problem or not living at all, there is the third, and my choice, changing things to make them the way I want them to be. We don't have to live the way we live right now if we don't want to. I think something is wrong with it, so I started this thread to see what people think. Many have expressed the same feelings as I have. Other, like you, have said "live with it". Well that won't do at all. As for blaming my problems on the government, I was never suggesting that. The government will always be a representation of the people. If I want change, I change the people, not the government and they adjust accordingly. Funny enough, I happen to be taking a final on the westward movement in a couple of days and it would not be a good thing if I didn't have my facts straight. Before the 1900s, there were no land taxes. One would just buy the land and it would be theirs for as long as they wished. People moved to the west because the west was away from government. Yes conditions were harsh, but the idea of really owning land that one does not have to pay money for after purchasing is quite appealing. One can live the way they would want to. But at the same time, I would much rather pay for land continually if it meant that "conventional" life as we know it were to change. How should it change? That's what I'm trying to figure out. All I know is that I feel people could benefit from a different system.

hikari_tennyo
01-16-2005, 08:34 PM
I understand you,
Currently living in a life where all my school experience is useless, sitting in a craphole job because to get a better one, I have to have "Experience", but can't get experience until I get that type of job, which no one will let me have because of lack of eperience. Over $2000 in debt because of "downsizing", and got backed up on bills so bad, trying to find a job that paid enough to pay those bills, we had to ask family to bail us out. Finally got straight again after relocating, but still have that debt because the only jobs available allow us to make just enough to live off, not enough to pay back bills.

My hubby is constantly in a state of job-frustration, because what he's good at, there is either no demand for, or the type of job he's qualified for makes him want to rip his own eyeballs out.
He would love to be paid to do the things he's good at, but most of them would be illegal.

So, Yeah, we wonder alot, "What's the Point?" but the other alternative is suicide, so we trudge out our daily lives waiting for Something Better.

haearnbran
01-18-2005, 09:09 PM
I understand you,
Currently living in a life where all my school experience is useless, sitting in a craphole job because to get a better one, I have to have "Experience", but can't get experience until I get that type of job, which no one will let me have because of lack of eperience. Over $2000 in debt because of "downsizing", and got backed up on bills so bad, trying to find a job that paid enough to pay those bills, we had to ask family to bail us out. Finally got straight again after relocating, but still have that debt because the only jobs available allow us to make just enough to live off, not enough to pay back bills.

My hubby is constantly in a state of job-frustration, because what he's good at, there is either no demand for, or the type of job he's qualified for makes him want to rip his own eyeballs out.
He would love to be paid to do the things he's good at, but most of them would be illegal.

So, Yeah, we wonder alot, "What's the Point?" but the other alternative is suicide, so we trudge out our daily lives waiting for Something Better.

While I understand what you are saying, I think it miss's the point that I'm trying to express. I never suggested that what I'm doing doesn't have a point because all knowledge is useful, but I disgruntled because what I am learning is not what I want to be learning and would rather be busy studying things of interest. I can't really relate to you though because I'm still in high school.

Xan-Nella
01-19-2005, 04:22 PM
I understand all too well.

I finished Highschool a year ago, went into Collage that was supposed to be much better.

Bullpoo.

I had to drop the course i was taking, Art and Design.

But i wasnt going to take that sitting down, iv applied for an Armed Services Course, so in a year or two i can join the Police Force.

But im still gunna be stuck sitting here for the next 3 months, at LEAST.

Im not living, im existing.

But when i do get in the Police, which i will eventually, i wont give up, it will be the closest thing i think i'll ever find to 'living' like in the Anime's.

Its my purpous in life.

Yea, i wont exacly be the ANBU, but its just about the closest the UK has, i will be able to help and protect people, something i enjoy.

There will be boring areas, of course, but iv chosen a direction in life :)

People just need to find your calling. :amuse

Chas3265
01-19-2005, 06:12 PM
Ughhhh I'm too lazy to read all of that but I do hate school. I don't know what I'm going to do after I graduate either.

Skite
01-19-2005, 09:45 PM
i feel like humanity doesnt have a purpose but were pretending like we have one and made a society and your parents make you think you need to make something of yourself when really you dont it doesnt matter what you do

gakidou
01-19-2005, 11:37 PM
i just spent 10 hours studying Homer's the Odyssey and the background and critique of sheldon's somatotyping and its eugenicistic views.... -,- *whew* i better not be wasting my time!!

crabman
01-20-2005, 12:41 AM
Read Thoreau's Civil Disobediance, you'll know how to use your time wisely, and how to sit in jail and enjoy it. No not if you like the big guy named Bubba, but time to reflect on yourself. And ya i feel like i'm wasting my time all the time. I mean seriously i spend more times on boards and forums than i do actual work. And i mean like so wat if i get a great job tht pays alot. I mean im still gonna have to work, doesn't mean i wont grow old and die if i have a great job. I mean what am i busting my ass in school for? It certainly should not be to uphold the view that asian kids are really good at school, even though it feels like it alot. Quoting Thoreau "I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad." Ya, and espiecally anime, i love it, but i HATE it at the same time. I mean i feel like i waste alot of my time watching it. I could be doing other things like working out, or going outside, or something else.

gakidou
01-20-2005, 12:47 AM
Read Thoreau's Civil Disobediance, you'll know how to use your time wisely, and how to sit in jail and enjoy it. No not if you like the big guy named Bubba, but time to reflect on yourself. And ya i feel like i'm wasting my time all the time. I mean seriously i spend more times on boards and forums than i do actual work. And i mean like so wat if i get a great job tht pays alot. I mean im still gonna have to work, doesn't mean i wont grow old and die if i have a great job. I mean what am i busting my ass in school for? It certainly should not be to uphold the view that asian kids are really good at school, even though it feels like it alot. Quoting Thoreau "I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad." Ya, and espiecally anime, i love it, but i HATE it at the same time. I mean i feel like i waste alot of my time watching it. I could be doing other things like working out, or going outside, or something else.


no way, i'm asian and i sucked in high school... =p well ur in high school.. so school doesn't matter... i failed so many courses in high school.. but in university i'm getting straight A's =p
so i'm sure ur time isn't as wasted as u think it is ^^ i don't think time is wasted as long as ur alive up and doing SOMETHING =p

crabman
01-20-2005, 12:56 AM
Your kidding yourself if u think that america is the land of the free, because it is just oppressive any other form of government. How exactly am I free to do what I want? I have to go to school to make sure that doors are not locked when I'm older. I can never own my own land, because there are taxes on land, so if I just wanted to live by growing my own food, I would still need to make money. America used to be free, while there was still a frontier, but when that closed, there was no longer any place to go in America that was not watched by the government.
As for finding a passion, my original question is asking for people to think about how they went about persuing their passion and if the way the world works now doesn't feel right. My passion would be to travel the world and be able to come back to a country that has more than one way of living life.

You live in a box don't you? Do you know how many people will kill for an education and will not complain about it? Do you have any idea how other people live? They never get to live outside a small apartment their entire lives, they never get to hop on a plane and leave their hellhole, they never get to do ANYTHING EXCEPT farm, look at people from Africa what they do is called subsistent farming, you produce enough to feed yourself and thats it no surplas. YOU just because you are born in America means that you have so much more EVERYTHING than other people. Do some research, if you invest enough and you go to the right place you CAN own land, acres and acres of it. Pretty sure not enough to like have a farm or something, but like horse property. Like say here in Arizona, or Texas. I agree with you that America has lost alot of it's "freedom" but that is also how YOU interpret freedom. And so what if you are being watched by the government? That means everybody else is being watched by the government also. What have you got to hide from the government? Don't you love your country? Or do you honestly think that America has some secret organization taking photos of you and posting them on their own private board? Don't go insulting this country because it's as good as it gets. You have no right to complain about menial things such as farming.
Don't get me wrong i'm not super patriotic or something, i just don't like it when people don't understand that people will kill and give everything they have to live HALF as well as we do.

crabman
01-20-2005, 12:59 AM
no way, i'm asian and i sucked in high school... =p well ur in high school.. so school doesn't matter... i failed so many courses in high school.. but in university i'm getting straight A's =p
so i'm sure ur time isn't as wasted as u think it is ^^ i don't think time is wasted as long as ur alive up and doing SOMETHING =p

LALALALALALA YOU SAY THAT AND I'M GONNA SLACK OFF AGAIN!!!! LALALALALALALA!!!!!!! i had to work REALLY REALLY hard to raise my gpa to a 3.6, don't you go messing it up again.

Athelstone
01-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Don't live a life of rules and boundaries. There is adventure, truth and virtue for all of us in this world. It sounds cryptic, but I mean this very literally; adventure can be found within yourself. Look within yourself and find out who and what you truly are. We're human: But not just human. We're spirits. All humans have the power of spiritual energy.

This energy can be harnessed, learnt, and mastered: it can then be used to improve the lives of yourselves and others. What I'm saying is not wishful thinking. It is not fantasy. This is reality; however, nothing I can say can prove to you that we all have this amazing spirit energy within us.

You're going to have to discover it for yourself. And that is where the adventure begins, truly. Life does not 'suck', life is not boring: life is amazing, because the wisdom and power-potential we all possess extends beyond this dimension.

If you seek adventure, wisdom, virtue and a better life (a life of purpose and meaning), then learn about your spirit energy. Begin with Astral projection: The art of inducing an out of body state. Learn about this wider reality, within yourself, and the adventure will begin. The unexamined life is a wasted life. A chance not taken is an opportunity lost.

Recommended books;
Projection Of The Astral Body (Sylvan J. Muldoon & Hereward Carrington).
Journeys Out Of The Body (Robert Monroe).
Out Of Body Experiences - how to have them and what to expect (Bob Peterson).
Astral Dynamics (Robert Bruce).
Mastering Astral Projection (Robert Bruce).

Recommended Websites:
http://astraldynamics.com/
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.html
http://www.astralsociety.com/

Ronin_Musashi
01-22-2005, 04:14 PM
You live in a box don't you? Do you know how many people will kill for an education and will not complain about it? Do you have any idea how other people live?...
Crabman...I couldn't have said it better myself...Good job! rep points to u :amuse
haearnbran, I was trying to be nice earlier, but I only have so much patience. I told you to deal with it, because that's what you're going to have to do. Eventually you will come to the realization that you don't deserve anything in this life, and if you want to pursue your dreams, you're going to have to go out and take what you want from life.
Secondly, you have been constantly saying how there should be a better system. Well...I haven't heard any suggestions about how to fix it. I would say that the Founding Fathers did a pretty damn good job at making a system of government. It has lasted for over 200 years, despite the fact that the citizens are allowed to carry guns and speak freely. Now sure, granted the economic system is based off greed. But what economic system isn't? Greed can be a powerful influence on people, and if it gives most people who work with it what they want, who are we to say it is bad?
I understand that you are "just complaining." However, complaining is not productive. I can bitch about life all I want, but nothing is going to change. If you can turn the complaining into something productive, like actually making those "changes" you've been talking about, I'll support you. But with the way it stands now, I can't say that I have much sympathy for you.

crabman
01-23-2005, 03:40 AM
Crabman...I couldn't have said it better myself...Good job! rep points to u :amuse
haearnbran, I was trying to be nice earlier, but I only have so much patience. I told you to deal with it, because that's what you're going to have to do. Eventually you will come to the realization that you don't deserve anything in this life, and if you want to pursue your dreams, you're going to have to go out and take what you want from life.
Secondly, you have been constantly saying how there should be a better system. Well...I haven't heard any suggestions about how to fix it. I would say that the Founding Fathers did a pretty damn good job at making a system of government. It has lasted for over 200 years, despite the fact that the citizens are allowed to carry guns and speak freely. Now sure, granted the economic system is based off greed. But what economic system isn't? Greed can be a powerful influence on people, and if it gives most people who work with it what they want, who are we to say it is bad?
I understand that you are "just complaining." However, complaining is not productive. I can bitch about life all I want, but nothing is going to change. If you can turn the complaining into something productive, like actually making those "changes" you've been talking about, I'll support you. But with the way it stands now, I can't say that I have much sympathy for you.

Ya, damn straight. Rep points for u too.

Exerzet
01-23-2005, 06:34 AM
I don't feel im wasting time when at scool. Not always at least.
Im lucky enough to have good teachers that can realy teach me a lot, but i understand it like u don't.

scool gives knowledge, knowledge gives power, Power gives freedom and freedom is just great ;)

haearnbran
01-27-2005, 10:03 PM
Read Thoreau's Civil Disobediance, you'll know how to use your time wisely, and how to sit in jail and enjoy it. No not if you like the big guy named Bubba, but time to reflect on yourself. And ya i feel like i'm wasting my time all the time. I mean seriously i spend more times on boards and forums than i do actual work. And i mean like so wat if i get a great job tht pays alot. I mean im still gonna have to work, doesn't mean i wont grow old and die if i have a great job. I mean what am i busting my ass in school for? It certainly should not be to uphold the view that asian kids are really good at school, even though it feels like it alot. Quoting Thoreau "I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad." Ya, and espiecally anime, i love it, but i HATE it at the same time. I mean i feel like i waste alot of my time watching it. I could be doing other things like working out, or going outside, or something else.

Though I never read Civil Disobediance, I did read Walden, which is more than enough to figure out how Thoreau thinks. Sure he had some interesting ideas, but he was also a huge hypocrite. He preached about removing oneself from society, yet went into town almost everyday. I really don't respect his opinions but I don't really want to go into it because he lived in a different time.

haearnbran
01-27-2005, 10:10 PM
You live in a box don't you? Do you know how many people will kill for an education and will not complain about it? Do you have any idea how other people live? They never get to live outside a small apartment their entire lives, they never get to hop on a plane and leave their hellhole, they never get to do ANYTHING EXCEPT farm, look at people from Africa what they do is called subsistent farming, you produce enough to feed yourself and thats it no surplas. YOU just because you are born in America means that you have so much more EVERYTHING than other people. Do some research, if you invest enough and you go to the right place you CAN own land, acres and acres of it. Pretty sure not enough to like have a farm or something, but like horse property. Like say here in Arizona, or Texas. I agree with you that America has lost alot of it's "freedom" but that is also how YOU interpret freedom. And so what if you are being watched by the government? That means everybody else is being watched by the government also. What have you got to hide from the government? Don't you love your country? Or do you honestly think that America has some secret organization taking photos of you and posting them on their own private board? Don't go insulting this country because it's as good as it gets. You have no right to complain about menial things such as farming.
Don't get me wrong i'm not super patriotic or something, i just don't like it when people don't understand that people will kill and give everything they have to live HALF as well as we do.

Things would be much easier to accept if I lived in a box, but I don't. I live in the same world as you, yet maybe not with the same opinions. Yes many people would love to live in America because its such a "great" country, but then again, those people don't live here, do they? Honestly, its a great country for a select few, mostly white, and an even smaller number of minorities. The rest of the population may have opportunities, such as free education through high school, but it doesn't mean the schools they are going to are equal. In fact, at least people in other countries have a goal to work toward. If ur here, at least for me, you wonder if what u are doing is the right thing, refering back to my original question.

haearnbran
01-27-2005, 10:20 PM
Crabman...I couldn't have said it better myself...Good job! rep points to u :amuse
haearnbran, I was trying to be nice earlier, but I only have so much patience. I told you to deal with it, because that's what you're going to have to do. Eventually you will come to the realization that you don't deserve anything in this life, and if you want to pursue your dreams, you're going to have to go out and take what you want from life.
Secondly, you have been constantly saying how there should be a better system. Well...I haven't heard any suggestions about how to fix it. I would say that the Founding Fathers did a pretty damn good job at making a system of government. It has lasted for over 200 years, despite the fact that the citizens are allowed to carry guns and speak freely. Now sure, granted the economic system is based off greed. But what economic system isn't? Greed can be a powerful influence on people, and if it gives most people who work with it what they want, who are we to say it is bad?
I understand that you are "just complaining." However, complaining is not productive. I can bitch about life all I want, but nothing is going to change. If you can turn the complaining into something productive, like actually making those "changes" you've been talking about, I'll support you. But with the way it stands now, I can't say that I have much sympathy for you.

I don't see why you have to lose ur patience over a forum conversation. Telling me to deal with my problem is exactly what I am doing. I am asking the people of this community to respond to my prompt and to see if people agree or disagree. I hope I didn't write or imply that people deserve anything, because I don't believe that things should just be bestowed upon people. In fact, this actually helps me define my question even more. Perhaps because I have not had to carve out an existance for myself, my place being set up by all the people who came before me, I'm trying to identify a cause that will help me feel as if everything in the world right now wasn't just given to me. As for not just complaining, but also changing things, I'm sure I wrote this before, but in order to change things, one must understand the problem. As I expressed above, I am defining my disgruntlment more and more. And though it would be kind, I don't need your sympathy, I need your imput, which you have given and I am grateful for.

Tautou
01-28-2005, 08:22 AM
People would kill for an education? Some people would kill to get out of it, as well. People build themselves on different things, people desire different things, people develop in different manners when living in different worlds. So I don't think that's a good point.

It is true that there is little freedom. All that we are now is because of stuff that has happened in the past, stuff that we can't control, actions other people made, we're chained down because of the fact that we live in a world with other people. We have to adapt.

When born, we weren't tied to a single thing, our minds were not tainted. But we are chained to certain ideas, patterns, routines, and we have no manner of knowing what's real and what's illusion. We don't get to choose 100% what the lives we live are, but tell me what is freedom. It is found within ourselves, not in the world.

I don't think the question is if time is being wasted, but if time would be wasted in attempts to obtain the freedom as it is in your mind. That could mean a lot of things, just find the meaning that suits you best.

ubernoob
01-30-2005, 06:01 AM
hey why do you think we watch anime and play games and such

it's all forms of escapism, when you're watching naruto, for that 20 minutes you're in a different world, you're somebdoy else living an exciting action filled life
thats what movies and anime and games are all about, it's a tool we use to escape the day to day-ness of our live's, it's like a little break from reality, experiencing things you aren't able to actually do
yea my family doesnt get that. i play a lot of games, hell i watched naruto from 1-119 in only a week. im off school atm. i feel like i waste time but then what counts as using it wisely. if death is just death and no more what point is there to life? if there's an after life i suppose we are preparing for, whats the best way to do that? should we work hard? should we just enjoy it and relax? i try to find a happy medium but im way laid back so i relax to much and dont work. i find worrying to be a waste of time unless the situation really calls for it like a family member is in a crash, worrying about school or work too much just makes more stress and everything worse and less productive due to it. hell i wana know what to do with life. even the slightest hint would sufice. watever im blabing

haearnbran
01-31-2005, 12:30 AM
yea my family doesnt get that. i play a lot of games, hell i watched naruto from 1-119 in only a week. im off school atm. i feel like i waste time but then what counts as using it wisely. if death is just death and no more what point is there to life? if there's an after life i suppose we are preparing for, whats the best way to do that? should we work hard? should we just enjoy it and relax? i try to find a happy medium but im way laid back so i relax to much and dont work. i find worrying to be a waste of time unless the situation really calls for it like a family member is in a crash, worrying about school or work too much just makes more stress and everything worse and less productive due to it. hell i wana know what to do with life. even the slightest hint would sufice. watever im blabing

I may feel like I'm wasting my time now, but I certainly know what I want to do with my life, and that is work for the benifit of mankind. In fact, thats the only positive thing one can do with their life. Even if it is only for ur family, it is still benifiting another human.

crabman
02-01-2005, 01:19 AM
Things would be much easier to accept if I lived in a box, but I don't. I live in the same world as you, yet maybe not with the same opinions. Yes many people would love to live in America because its such a "great" country, but then again, those people don't live here, do they? Honestly, its a great country for a select few, mostly white, and an even smaller number of minorities. The rest of the population may have opportunities, such as free education through high school, but it doesn't mean the schools they are going to are equal. In fact, at least people in other countries have a goal to work toward. If ur here, at least for me, you wonder if what u are doing is the right thing, refering back to my original question.

lol, my point is that because you are american you have the oppurtinity to make money, becuase you have a free education, which is better than none at all. Even if it is ruled by no child left behind act. And do you think i would say you live in a box when i do? I try not to be hypocritical even on teh internet and I know that school districts all across the united states are completely diffrent. Like a child in downtown chicago, or w/e ghetto place there is obviously won't be getting the same quality education as a suburban white kid would get. However, you do get an education. And what goal do other people in countries have to work for? Tell me, cuz honestly i don't see it. They've got teh same goals as us americans do, and tht is to make a living, that and maybe u know getting to america, which is a really big deal here in arizona being right next to the mexican border and all. Well when i visited this thread i thought it would be less serious, so ya....... And anyways, id rather be living in harlem than in africa.....or the philipines......or vietnam......or thailand, cambodia, uh most of the pacific nations at tht and south east asia, uhh.... most of china... cept maybe HK or macau....most of eastern europe including russia..... i don't know about australia it's still loosely attatched to the brits so it might not be tht bad. So ya thts about it. tht leaves like wat 10ish countries? most of them r in europe.....

Lilly_haku
02-01-2005, 10:03 AM
I share this feeling too.!!!
If I can't do anything useful or productive I'd go nuts :nuts
I always feel like I'm wasting my time when I'm not learning or doing something productive.

Tesh
02-01-2005, 10:46 AM
People said it before me.

Find your PASSION.
Find your DREAMS.
Find what you can BURN for.

Once you've done that, you will know it's the right thing. Wheter it be running off to the australian wildlife and managing your own farm, or study your arse off and get rich - do it. You find your passion, and when you do you need to work your ass off, hell you should be prepared to die for it.

Sounds very very cliche, but that's how I feel. I know my dreams, or goals if you will, and not a damn thing can stand in my way, because it's what I truly want, and thus, I will achieve it.


Our society may not be "free" as other places on the earth, but it provides the opportunity for many to be whatever they want to be - IF you are prepared to pay the price. Obstacles are made to overcome.

Also, try to think out of the box. Education is not the only way to achieve things, even if we love to think it is, probably because we are spoonfed with that image in order for us to work hard (it is, after all, the "safest" route). You have no idea where you will end up, what turns life will take. Instead of thinking you can't do things, know that you can.

You just gotta fight for it.

Silver Side Sonic
02-01-2005, 11:31 AM
Tesh nailed my opinion.
Life isnt a waste anyway, its you yourself that might feel like you are wasting it but you are never quite actually wasting it. Find a goal of yer own and go for it! And if that doesnt work, think about this: friends, people you talk to, parents or family or online or whatever, you teach and listen to people and that alone is something valuable and thus proving that one is never wasting his or her life. So dont feel like you are wasting it :)

Well.. thats what I think.

Kevinthewiseone
02-01-2005, 02:14 PM
i dont know i am in collge know and i thought high scholl was pretty good

ubernoob
02-01-2005, 10:45 PM
People said it before me.

Find your PASSION.
Find your DREAMS.
Find what you can BURN for.

Once you've done that, you will know it's the right thing. Wheter it be running off to the australian wildlife and managing your own farm, or study your arse off and get rich - do it. You find your passion, and when you do you need to work your ass off, hell you should be prepared to die for it.

Sounds very very cliche, but that's how I feel. I know my dreams, or goals if you will, and not a damn thing can stand in my way, because it's what I truly want, and thus, I will achieve it.


Our society may not be "free" as other places on the earth, but it provides the opportunity for many to be whatever they want to be - IF you are prepared to pay the price. Obstacles are made to overcome.

Also, try to think out of the box. Education is not the only way to achieve things, even if we love to think it is, probably because we are spoonfed with that image in order for us to work hard (it is, after all, the "safest" route). You have no idea where you will end up, what turns life will take. Instead of thinking you can't do things, know that you can.

You just gotta fight for it.

trust me your one of the lucky ones who knows what their passion is many many people dont know what to do with their lives. its hard to come up with something you will be happy doing for the rest of your life

purplecharm
02-01-2005, 11:19 PM
What if your dreams may seem impossible...

onlyelliot
02-01-2005, 11:37 PM
Even if you know your passion, how to persue that passion is not always a simple concept i can relate strongly to the origins of this thread. Ive hated school all of my life because I have been forced to do things that are just completly unnecessary. What bothers me more than persuing subjects I find no value in is all the useless crap that is expected out of me for the stuff i do care about. In high school it was mundane homework. I couldnt stand the idea of having to do this work when I had enough independent enthusiasm and ability to be able to learn the material and get an A on any test I took. The fact that I can get a C in a class in which I consistently get the highest test scores even on AP exams is ridiculous.
I don't function like this system expects me to. I persue things because I care about them. I devote myself mentaly to the subjects I take more than anyone i know. I always feel like i am getting more out of the classes I take than my fellow students, and I have test scores to prove. My problem is that i am not good at working hard in the typical sense. I cant sit down day after day and work my ass off to make expecations. I never learned this skill as it was never necessary for me to learn. Ive always done things on my own for my own reasons and found my own way to cover the material. What I most definitely want to persue in my life is teaching Philosophy, yet I am really uncertain as to wether I will be able to achieve that since I lack the conforming abilities most people learn earlier in life. I suck at "working hard" and I suck at following schedules. I more than have the mental ability and passion to persue my goals, yet I lack the more superficial book keeping abilites which are expected of me and this society makes no place for someone like me.

So, yeah Im worried too, but no matter how much things suck like this, there is always the potential for things to get better. We can change how things work and we should. Just because we have it better than many other people out there, doesnt mean we should give up and just accept things as are. Ive been pondering ever since i got to college what I can do to change the education system. I would really like to see it become more focused on the individuals needs. THis will be very difficult to accomplish, because it will require more money and recources and that is a difficult thing to get from a government that relies on exploiting the less benefitted. There is a lot that needs to be done about education, this is not a country of the free. Even if there is free education for all citizens, that education is hardly equal. Not only do poorer communities have worse resources and teachers, but to grow up in a comunity like that is to grow up in an environment which rejects education.

Would you be able to make it all the way thorugh high school if all of you friends dropped out really early on? If persuing that path meant leaving behind everyone you have ever cared about?
Not that this is always the case, but this does happen. HOw can we call this the land of the free when our social structure is still experiencing the schisms produced through slavery? You cant make such a simple comment like "you just have to work real hard to get what you want" when not all people have equavilent access to education. It isnt just a matter of working hard, you need proper support, and motivation and opportunity.

Anyway, there is pointless bitching and there is explaining what you see is wrong in hopes of that issue being improved. I dont think this thread was ever meant for just complaining, and I stand by the creator as someone who understands how things can suck, but still has hope for something better.

haearnbran
02-01-2005, 11:42 PM
Also, try to think out of the box. Education is not the only way to achieve things, even if we love to think it is, probably because we are spoonfed with that image in order for us to work hard (it is, after all, the "safest" route). You have no idea where you will end up, what turns life will take. Instead of thinking you can't do things, know that you can.

You just gotta fight for it.

I'm glad someone finally said it. I think way back at the begining of this post I wrote that it would be could if peopel could be educated differently than they are right now. I know education (school) is no the only way, but it would take quote a bit of resovle to choose a different foute other than school, and frankly I'm not sure I would have the resolve to choose another route at this time because I only have one more year of high school.

haearnbran
02-01-2005, 11:47 PM
Anyway, there is pointless bitching and there is explaining what you see is wrong in hopes of that issue being improved. I dont think this thread was ever meant for just complaining, and I stand by the creator as someone who understands how things can suck, but still has hope for something better.

:thumbs:thumbs Exactly. I want people to be constructive, and not say get over it, because that isn't what I am aiming for in this thread. It is also ocmforting to know that others too struggle with a system that is not optimal for me to perform best in, and perhaps together, we can start to solve this issue.

haearnbran
02-01-2005, 11:50 PM
What if your dreams may seem impossible...

This wil sound very cliche but nothing is impossible, just improbable. Many people can easily use evidence to prove me wrong, but honestly, if one limits their mind, one can never achieve anything great.

onlyelliot
02-02-2005, 12:12 AM
:thumbs:thumbs Exactly. I want people to be constructive, and not say get over it, because that isn't what I am aiming for in this thread. It is also ocmforting to know that others too struggle with a system that is not optimal for me to perform best in, and perhaps together, we can start to solve this issue.

Actually, I think what you said really early on about once people are finally old enough to persue what they want to do, the narrowminded tendencies of adult hood set in and inhibits their ability to change things. There really is a huge dilema here: if you suceed in the system then you will lose your understanding of what is wrong with it because you will assume others should be able to suceed where you do, but if work outside the sytem, then you may not be able to have any influence or credibility as to how the system should work. The only way I have found to function is to find my own motivation in everything i do. I seek out my own purpose in whatever is expected of me. This really screws me over because it can be quite difficult at times, but I really hope that I will be better off for it in the long terms. I refuse to sell my soul for an easy ride, yet at the same time life kicks my ass because i refuse to submit. heh... sucks i guess

Anyway only the courageous and independent have any chance of changing how this world works. So I say struggle on!

purplecharm
02-02-2005, 07:45 PM
If only dreams are that easy to accomplish. So far I have one dream, and it's very very very difficulty to achieve no matter how hard I try!

haearnbran
02-03-2005, 12:56 AM
Well if a dream were easy to carry out, then it wouldn't be very realistic. I dream to find my way in life, but I how am I supposed to know if I am following the right path.

tklown
02-05-2005, 01:34 PM
If you're following the right path you will feel it. It's different than your intellect saying "I like this, or this is a good idea". You will feel very strongly about what you want to do or are doing, it will probably be a feeling you've never experienced before, or if it really is your dream then maybe you have. Just follow whatever feels right

niceguy645
02-05-2005, 01:47 PM
My opinion, once you walk accross the stage and accept you diploma be proud because you had to put up with 12 years of crap. You wont really learn anything useful in school unless its on your own. Dont let school interfere with your education

Hinata123
02-05-2005, 01:51 PM
im so damn anoyed at the moment and high school is sooooo anoying!! i hate it

Dtothe3
02-07-2005, 10:29 AM
Being Athiest, i feel we only have one crack at making our lives work how we want them to, regardless of your beliefs, it's not an arguable point we are not all on borrowed time.

From this prespective, i need to make money, sort myself out and make things work how i want them to. Currently this just involves getting fit (the never ending struggle, i only weigh 10st too...) and passing the driving test.

So whilst i don't feel i am totally wasting my time, it does seem like im just looking at what i should be doing rather then getting off my ass and doing something about it. Motivation is key.

StarMasayume
02-08-2005, 11:56 AM
This makes me think of a funny song I came across in an AMV...

Oh, Life's gonna suck when you grow up, when you grow up
Life's gonna suck when you grow up, it sucks pretty back right now.
You might have to mow the lawn, do the dishes, make your bed,
You're gonna have to go to school until your seventeen
(It's gonna seem about three times as long as that)

You're gonna have to go to war, shoot a gun, kill a nun,
You're gonna have to go to war when you get out of school..
(hey cheer up kids--it gets a lot worse)

You're gonna have to deal with stress, deal with stress,
You're gonna be a giant mess when you get back from the war.
Santa Clause does not exist, and there's no easter bunny..
You'll find out when you grow up that big bird isn't funny, funny, funnnnyyy ha ha ha!

Oh, Life's gonna suck when you grow up, when you grow up
Life's gonna suck when you grow up, it sucks pretty back right now.
Your'e gonna end up smoking crack, on your back, face the fact,
You're gonna end up hooked on smack and then you're gonna die

*insert happy tune*
and then you're gonnnnaa diiiieeeeiiiieeiiieeee hey hey

The song always amused me and it's to such a happy catchy tune. ^__^ You can download the AMV for it here (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=10000).



But seriously, I like what Ronin_Musashi. Find a passion and pursue it. I've been homeschooled since 7th grade and sometimes I've felt I've got it fairly easy and I'm very protective of my free time (which may or may not be productive) even though I've been dual enrolling at college since i was 16 (19 now ack! will have to start actually paying for tuition soon...). It was a growing amount of stress deciding what to do in college. My passions have always been art, writing, web designing, and other creative devices, but I was still confused at what was the best choice to pursue. Web designing is a competitive overcrowded market and art/writing you envision the art bums. Debated teaching for awhile, but aside from liking kids and the idea of doing something for the world... I decided after an intro course that it wasn't for me. I figured i"m going to finish my AA degree first since I've accumalated so many credits so far and then aim for some kind of arts or graphics degree for a combination career of graphic designing/ web designing/ & illustration.

After feeling guilty about never truly deciding, now I feel guilty when I feel like I'm wasting my time by not doing something productive to readch that. I've tried to put it back into perspective. I found I did feel more active when I exercised or played tennis for a few months (inspired motivation from the prince of tennis anime LOL), so I'm trying to get time to do that more and stop giving excuses that make me feel lazy. I just turned 19 last week and it's scary how fast the time goes.. it does make you step back and question what you're doing with that time. I've only been taking a few college courses at a time and working minimal hours and procrastinating my math and science.

Honestly though, I think you need some time for yourself that you don't feel guilty about wasting. Some time to just breathe, relax, hang with friends, watch an anime, appreciate nature, because it's the little things you do for yourself that makes life good. We just need a healthy balance of productivity and rest (of course easier said than done I know lol --i'm always feel like I'm having too much of a dose of one or the other at a time).

The whole college than work thing does seem like a confinement at some perspective. But just envision the life and career you would like to have. You'll need a career to support yourself and you want it to be something you can enjoy at least most of the time. College is just what helps you get there. I suppose I could say screw college, why do I need it to be a better artist and a graphic designer? But really, even though art is something I've done for a long time there's many skills I still need to pick up, especially as to using it for a career. I try not to picture life as a confinement but as something with goals, choices, and possibilities. There's still that special someone I want to meet and share my life with, there's places like Japan I want to visit, close friends online that I've yet to meet, and always more challenges in my passions and interests.

Now I just need to follow my own advice and just live life ^___^

YaoiRanger
02-09-2005, 12:37 AM
at times i feel like i am wasting my time... and at times i think " Im really going to miss school ... being decriminated , being abused , being with my friends everyday , etc ' all those school memories and all those things are exciting ... they bring out alot of emotions... and without them and i guess a bit hate in my life.. ill be bored.

sounds crazy eh.. ??

Natasha
02-09-2005, 02:47 PM
This is for the people who are or close to the age of high school students.

Anyone feel like you are wasting your life and are held down by a society that does not like change and cant bear to think of any other way of growing up other than going to school, then college, then work, then family, then retirement, then death? I'm not even out of high school yet I wish that life wasn't so defined as it is today (at least in Illinois). If I were to try living another way of life, of learning things at other places than school, I couldn't succeed in doing anything I wanted because people would look at me as weird. I know learning is important and I want to learn, but I also want to live as someone who is alive, not someone who follows the beaten path of others. Any thoughts?
Just stop wasting your time! I read a story about people, they were punished for their ideas - had to do useless work. Some of them died, but some of them found the reason of this work (they persuaded themselfs that they were working for their ideas - for freedom) and they survived. Find something you want to live for...
My theacher works in school for mental deficients. She likes her job, this children and she never feels like wasting her time even when there are no results.

haearnbran
02-09-2005, 03:43 PM
Just stop wasting your time! I read a story about people, they were punished for their ideas - had to do useless work. Some of them died, but some of them found the reason of this work (they persuaded themselfs that they were working for their ideas - for freedom) and they survived. Find something you want to live for...
My theacher works in school for mental deficients. She likes her job, this children and she never feels like wasting her time even when there are no results.

U miss my point. What I'm doing isn't exactly a "waste" more than it is productive, but not for what I really want to do. If I choose to just accept, then I will lose sight of a better future and become a drone of society. If I choose to defy, then who knows what will happen. The example you gave is what people do when they are in desperate situations. People always try to find reason, define, get a grip on reality when reality is out of reach. After faulse conclusions are reached, isn't life grand? Before that happens, I just hope that my conclusions are that much closer to some sort of enlightenment.

Natasha
02-09-2005, 04:22 PM
Life is not grand, life is just. So just stop standing and thinking if I do..... or if I don't....
Do something, make your choice. But be ready for some problems and final understanding that you have made a wrong choice.
People always try to find reason, I agree. But you are doing the same thing right now. You try to find reason of your despair. Are you afraid to make choice for your own?

haearnbran
02-09-2005, 04:35 PM
Are you afraid to make choice for your own?

Of course I'm afraid to make the choice on my own, but it can only be done on my own. The only way I've come up with to help make the choice is to ask as many people as possible for advice. Until I'm an adult, all I can do is seek out anwsers to be prepared to make my own choices.

Hagi
02-09-2005, 05:54 PM
i say live for the moment and have no regrets

iroha haroto
02-10-2005, 01:49 AM
It doesn't have to be so well-defined. How you live your own life is firmly in your control, you simply just have to really keep at it. Even if other people look at you weird, you should focus on what you love to do.

Life is finite, and you have to cram as much happiness as possible into it, because we don't know what's afterwards.

Natasha
02-10-2005, 10:40 AM
Of course I'm afraid to make the choice on my own, but it can only be done on my own. The only way I've come up with to help make the choice is to ask as many people as possible for advice. Until I'm an adult, all I can do is seek out anwsers to be prepared to make my own choices.
Very interesting way to take off all responsibility for your future choice. But it's not a good way! You should make the choice on your own, basing on your experience. People don't know all circumstances of your life and there advice can only confuse you.

haearnbran
02-10-2005, 09:48 PM
Very interesting way to take off all responsibility for your future choice. But it's not a good way! You should make the choice on your own, basing on your experience. People don't know all circumstances of your life and there advice can only confuse you.

This is what I meant. The advice of people is based on their experiences and the knowledge they gained. Also, just because I take in advice doesn't mean I use it if I don't agree. I don't use advice as a way of bypassing experience, I use it as a way of being prepared for experience. It sounds like you are saying anyone who will give me advice will be wrong.

Ichimaru Gin
02-11-2005, 04:58 AM
i say live for the moment and have no regrets


I feel the same way pretty much. Live to Live and do whatever you want.

Salo
02-14-2005, 08:16 PM
For those of you who spite at close-minded adults... THANK YOUUU! I am at the crucial point of life where you have to make a decision (your major). If you choose the wrong major and you study it for a few years, quit because you decided you didn't like it, waste your parents', yours, and everybody else's money, go into another major-- end up being like fifty years old before you're settled, debts paid, etc... then all of the sudden...
WHAM! You have a heart attack and you die. Pointless.
Okay, i'm exaggerating, but that's how it seems like. Choose my passion? Well, my peers know what my current passion is, but my guardians...? They think that I'd excell in the other areas. I really want to spite them but there is this lingering doubt... "What if they're right? What if they know me better than I think? I mean I don't psycho-analyze myself every day, and they watch me and make sure to know what I'm up to everyday!"
Don't you just hate self doubts?
As for wasting your life... and to whoever said something about deciding as children...
the thing is, children aren't ever really sure when they're children. Heck, sometimes they think they're good at one thing and they want to become that thing-- DESPITE all the warnings from all-knowing parents-- and they ruin their life because they're not successful and happy. (my primal reason for my self-doubts on my major) One has to give credit to close-minded adults because they know where they're coming from... on the other hand... -.-

haearnbran
02-14-2005, 09:18 PM
Well, I'm not quite at that point but I get more of those kind of decisions everyday. I at least know this, doubting yourself leads to failure. You have to make a choice based on what you think, which could mean that you think listening to other people is what needs to be done. Any doubt and only trouble will follow.

Ruuppa
02-15-2005, 04:38 AM
The point of wasting time is, for me at least, to not know they're wasting time. What would be the fun in knowing you're wasting perfectly good time?

On the other hand, wasting time on something really interesting.. Would that be wasting time at all?

Cinnabon
02-15-2005, 05:41 AM
It aint gonna be like that soon enough, I gareentee with the way our administration is going on right now were all gonna be making shit for china in 2020.

Did you think america was gonna be the world super power forever and ever?

I don't know why you guys keep talking about highschool, college, blah blah, less the 100 years ago 95% of the population didn't even go to public schools because they didn't exsist. They farmed or they worked in citys.

The world is constantly changeing, and america is delusional ;)

Salo
02-15-2005, 04:10 PM
It aint gonna be like that soon enough, I gareentee with the way our administration is going on right now were all gonna be making shit for china in 2020.

Did you think america was gonna be the world super power forever and ever?


Hehe, my parents and etc all think china's going to become a great superpower because of their huge population and etc. Truthfully, me and my generation think Japan has pretty much dominated economically and who knows how far they'll go?

haearnbran
02-15-2005, 06:59 PM
Perhaps one hundred or so years ago when 95% of the population was not such a bad thing...Interesting topic.

Salo
02-15-2005, 08:20 PM
Perhaps one hundred or so years ago when 95% of the population was not such a bad thing...Interesting topic.

yeah, now with their population control and all... It's hard to see where they're going.

haearnbran
03-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Hehe, my parents and etc all think china's going to become a great superpower because of their huge population and etc. Truthfully, me and my generation think Japan has pretty much dominated economically and who knows how far they'll go?

Truthfully, I don't think that China will become any more of a super power than any other super power of today because, if one looks back through history, big countries with large populations tend to collapse on themselves because there interests lie in other parts of the world and they become a shell (Rome, England, etc...)

200 IQ
03-02-2005, 09:59 PM
and do you seriously think that some people that go to the forums as you do to waste their hours and days away will give advice on how not to waste time? I know I'm wasting my time, but I know what your feeling. Your just going through a stage where EVERY human being goes through... trust me, when you reach a certain age, you will feel confident in yourself that you are not wasting time and know that your life is fruitful and exciting.

princesstaco
03-03-2005, 12:12 AM
Hmmm...

Going back to what haearnbran originally stated:

I think part of the problem is that people are so fixated on what they can and can't do. I've had the same thoughts myself.

Anyone feel like you are wasting your life and are held down by a society that does not like change and cant bear to think of any other way of growing up other than going to school, then college, then work, then family, then retirement, then death

But you have to realize that each individual is in control of his or her own life. College/work/family/retirement is one way of life, but not the only way. As absurd as it may seem, you don't have to follow a set routine to succede in life. Good grades do not equate to a successful life. (as I seem to recall a certain 'C' student being elected president) If a person really wanted to, they could quit their job and start a new career, move to a different country, drop out of school, refuse to work and move to the mountains to become a hermit etc etc etc. People end up in the school/work/family/retirement way of life because they choose to do so. I know I often become resentful of exams/term papers/spending all of my money on rent, but I decided that I wanted to become a scientist when I graduate and that my present way of life gives me the best chance at getting there.

Unfortunately, some life choices do require a certain level of education. Then again, I wouldn't exactly want an unschooled surgeon looking at my brain, or an unschooled self-appointed engineer designing the bridges I drive across. If you want to be able to do those things, you need to get some degree of education first.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that you get out of life what you put into it.

You can't sit back and complain about how the system runs your whole life, because it only does if you let it. (I hope that made sense.)

I suppose there are a few exceptions.

There are poor people out there that cannot improve their lives without some sort of help.

And I guess the younger you are, the more other people (namely parents and teachers) tell you how to life your life. You (meaning at least me) gain a lot more freedom as you start to pay your own bills.

And there's my view on the question.

(It's similar to what a lot of other people have said, sorry)

Unamed Ninja
03-13-2005, 12:30 AM
I always have that feeling. But I realize it is a phase, so I look forward to the other side of the hill, to when I am rid of this feeling. I feel as though I really dont have a purpose. I wake up, go to school, come home, hang out, go to bed, then do it all over again the next day. I dont understand what we are supposed to do with our lives if our entire youth is spent sitting in a class room listening to teachers lecture us. I seriously think that it could be done a better way. I feel as though I am the same as everyone else, when I strive to proove that I am different, that I am better than those I look down apon. But when I have this feeling, I doubt myself, and my ability to reach for my dreams. All I ever look forward to when I wake up in the morning is joking around with my friends, and this comforts me. I dont know what would become of me if I didnt have the friends I do today... Ofcourse, then I look apon the brighter side. I have great friends and a loving family.

Its just a phase, I know, and I try to supress the feeling. Lately though, its been affecting me more than usual.

monk3
03-15-2005, 07:05 PM
life is pretty miuch pointless cuz you have basically nothing to work for.

diDom
03-15-2005, 07:10 PM
Whoa! Hugs for all of you! Everyone has a purpose in life, you just need to realise it. Then you'll find that NOTHING is a waste of time. Like Gandalf says in LOTR,, and I paraphrase: "We cannot decide our fate. All we can do is use the time that is given us..." Remember it! LOVE AND PEACE!!!

diDom
03-15-2005, 07:15 PM
Sorry, got a bit deep there...

haearnbran
03-15-2005, 08:37 PM
Your just going through a stage where EVERY human being goes through... trust me, when you reach a certain age, you will feel confident in yourself that you are not wasting time and know that your life is fruitful and exciting.

I really hope you are older than me, because, to go with your second point, if I do find later life exciting and fun, I'm in danger of being desperate to not be wasting my time, I look for any alternative, however wasteful or boring, to make myself feel like I'm being productive. I will hope that I will start feeling truely productive when it comes time for college and I can start mapping my career. While that may be what you mean, you can't offer me advice on something that you haven't had experience. Even I could infere that.

haearnbran
03-15-2005, 08:44 PM
life is pretty miuch pointless cuz you have basically nothing to work for.

Whoa! Hugs for all of you! Everyone has a purpose in life, you just need to realise it. Then you'll find that NOTHING is a waste of time. Like Gandalf says in LOTR,, and I paraphrase: "We cannot decide our fate. All we can do is use the time that is given us..." Remember it! LOVE AND PEACE!!!

Monk3 - Your right. Life is pointless for everyone (if you don't believe in an afterlife, etc...). The only one task that is not pointless is setting up an easier life for the next generation. They too go through the same cycle and so one, forever.

diDom - :smile-big :smile-big

Unamed Ninja
03-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Whoa! Hugs for all of you! Everyone has a purpose in life, you just need to realise it. Then you'll find that NOTHING is a waste of time. Like Gandalf says in LOTR,, and I paraphrase: "We cannot decide our fate. All we can do is use the time that is given us..." Remember it! LOVE AND PEACE!!!

Yea, Ive begun to look on the brighter side as of late. I have found a girl that really makes me happy, and its helped me out tremendously. I like that quote from LOTR, its one of my favorites.

donkey-man
03-15-2005, 11:03 PM
I've glanced through all the posts and here's what I have to say. First, Japan may be an economical power but nothing else as long as the big wigs keep kissing America's ass. And because the people are all pacifists (atleast the generation of kids who lived through WWII) they won't do crap. I mean, all they have is a defense force, not for attacking anybody. Second, I think it is a waste of time. If the education system had been set up to target in on individual strengths and not on a broad spectrum of subjects to study, then maybe we would have more productive people that are specialized in something (chemistry, for example). Students could just study what they excel in and not waste time on other crap. Third, money is crap. Someone needs to like take everything over and get rid of money. Make it sort of like a barter system, but hours worked = a certain product. Have a standard price on all things around the world. Profit won't matter 'cause there wouldn't be any money involved and the lands would all be united under one ruler (kind of like Fascism but no weird stuff that Hitler and other fascists did; someone with a little common sense and morals and respect for life). That wouldn't mean that everybody is free to do whatever, it's like military control so people don't go all rebelious. One problem is the corruption. America's government is like corrupt all to hell and most other governments as well, like wtf, ya know? Places like Singapore are like good, just need to fit that type of control for countries as big as the USA. America is too nice to criminals. It should be like semi-fascist, and if you chew gum and throw it on the ground you get like hell whipped of you with sticks and stuff. That's the control America needs. And something needs to be done about racist people. Like they need the stick beating. World population should be cut to like 20% of today's population, too many people in the world (like overcrowded fish bowl). Nature must be saved, save the penguins! This world needs like major reform in everything to not waste our time. Politicians need like major :spank . That's my proposal for world reform to make a world where our time is not wasted.

Hakuzo
03-19-2005, 10:24 PM
sometimes when i'm depressed i think that i'm wasting time in school cuz i know that in the end i'm going to die sometime.

Inconspicuous_lurker
03-20-2005, 10:45 PM
lol. All the time...

dylate
03-21-2005, 03:11 PM
yup thats why I am on here :P

shinjuu
03-21-2005, 03:18 PM
Well lately i have skipped school now and then saying to myself im wasting time to get there for 1 hour and go back(i have to travel double the amount of time that i am on school then) so instead id rather waste my time at home. So in both scenario's im wasting time BUT, in 1 im NOT having fun and in the other I am. So id rather have fun while wasting time. So if you really feel you are wasting time try to find a job that gives you alot of fun. Because you are going to work all your life, you better have fun while doing so!

Ch0zen
03-21-2005, 04:21 PM
You people think to hard. "Oh my ogd, my life revolves around NOTHING, I might as well get depressed..."
uh, yea, well, thats not really true, but if thats your cup 'o' tea, then go on ahead my estranged friend.
I think that saying you having nothing to live for and moping around becuase if it is pretty damn stupid. I mean, sure, everyone gets depressed, some worse than others, but then you start to think about if life is worth it since your going to die.
Thats like, what, 80 years away for most of us? I guess I just dont understand the thinking, since I live one day at a time.
I hate school too, but not going to it because I feel its a waste of time is idiotic, everyone needs an education to survive in todays world, and if you dont get one while your young, you'll regret it.
just my 2 cents.

Hakuzo
03-21-2005, 04:55 PM
so true about the 'get a job u like' thing. i plan on going to West Point ( military college for army) that way i wont be bored doing my job!

chye8
04-08-2005, 05:37 AM
Yup...all the time at work. I feel that I'm not productive at all. Just surf the net all the time.

stomponfrogs
04-10-2005, 05:57 AM
How can you be wasting your life when it has barely even started? You are just 16, wait a couple of years, and you'll realize what you've been wasting it for. I never want to leave college! (seriously dude, this is the life)

Dark_Wolf
04-10-2005, 11:34 AM
This is for the people who are or close to the age of high school students.

Anyone feel like you are wasting your life and are held down by a society that does not like change and cant bear to think of any other way of growing up other than going to school, then college, then work, then family, then retirement, then death? I'm not even out of high school yet I wish that life wasn't so defined as it is today (at least in Illinois). If I were to try living another way of life, of learning things at other places than school, I couldn't succeed in doing anything I wanted because people would look at me as weird. I know learning is important and I want to learn, but I also want to live as someone who is alive, not someone who follows the beaten path of others. Any thoughts?


Honestly, I can sympathise wholeheartdely with you. Wow, most of you think when you first get into college it is great. First year is, but when you get to second year, you begin to realize how monotonous learning really is. Constant exam pressure, and even worser if you go to university. Peer pressure as well does not help. I am under the impression that I HAVE to go to University. Whenever someones asks me what I want to do at University, I automatically say I am doing "Computer Science with Games Development because I want to make video games in the future"
There isn't any excitement in my voice at all when I talk about that. I have completely lost interest in learning.

Why don't you travel when you have a bit of money? Start saving now, and travel all over the world to learn about different things. That's the way to be truly alive. To explore other cultures.

Don't give up. You'll break out of that cage one day. Don't stay trapped forever.

probanana
04-15-2005, 04:38 AM
ya college has become monotonous whenever someone asks me what my major is in college i dont even know how to respond, im jsut taking all the required classes because its what i have to do, so sometime in the future im going ot have to answer that question. AS for now i dont know what else to do but school , school , work , school and well more school, it all becomes a boring routine after a while. man thats why college parties were invented, to break this routine, but on monday u have ot go back to school so it all sucks.

Sertechaun
04-15-2005, 07:48 AM
I do NOTHING productive all day, whole week.
The weather is so nice outside..
I should go out and get a tan..

But where am I gonna go? What am I gonna do outside? :confused

So I sit home, waste time. :sad

Voynich
04-15-2005, 08:33 AM
Oh yeah.

I dragged my ass through high school while slacking off, but because I got through the highest level, they expect me to go to university. So I went to uni, for lack of something better to do. I switched majors halfway through the first year. *that should have been a sign* So now I have to redo this whole year. All I fuckin do is write essays all week long. I don't even have time to go riding my horse anymore.. And why? I don't like learning. I'm in uni cause I don't have the money to leave. If I could, I'd left long time ago. Uni just isn't for me. I could do it if I put in some effort, but I can't keep it up for another 4 years. So staying in uni is wasting time..but I'm forced to stay. Dropping out will cause lots of trouble with my family. Especially my grand parents..where I happen to live now. We got a college trip to the UK in 2 weeks, and I'm seriously considering NOT taking the ferry back home. I hate being locked up like this. Day in day out, same routine. I hate this life, it's just all planned out. I want a life, in which I don't know what I'll be doing tomorrow.

It's not fair that people are being forced into this path or college, work, carreer, family. Everyone that dares to stick out is being pushed back with a persistance that manages to numb even the most free spirits.

Abacus
04-17-2005, 03:43 AM
Its weird recently ive noticed a lot more people who are experiencing similar troubles, I also screwed around throughout my entire education, never really putting in any effort becuase I wasnt really getting anything out of it that appealed to me. Then I took up software engineering which I thought would keep me interested, but that only lasted about 2 years before it utterly bored me. I ended up failing a significant number of papers due to a severe lack of attendance but it was too late to change degrees so I eventually finnished my degree which took an additional year and a half on top of what it should have.

Now that ive finnished I have no desire whatsoever to use that degree in the workforce becuase it bores me to death, I literally fall asleep while doing coding/IT work in general. I thought about it for some time and I came to the realisation that I couldnt fathom having a generic life (find a career stick with it get married have kids get old etc), It fills me with this dreadful feeling of mind numbing inevitability.

I found out some of my friends are going on world travel at the end of this year so ive decided im going to join them travel the world for a year or more and see if I can get some inspiration.. but I still feel unsure.

Konata Izumi
04-17-2005, 04:01 AM
Yes. but rigth now its the one year of my life where i am supposed to waste time.

minou
04-17-2005, 04:24 AM
yeah wastin my time

Dreams
04-17-2005, 06:11 AM
dont think im wasting time. life is life. you cannot waste it
doesnt matter what you do, someday youll notice that all had made sense and that it had helped you to gain experience

Jester12
04-17-2005, 11:10 AM
Every minute of every day...

Hakuzo
04-20-2005, 05:09 PM
i never thought of it that way before, i like that. do u remember me?

VexingVelocity
04-20-2005, 06:16 PM
This has probably already been stated somewhere in this thread, but I'm going to say it anyway:

High school, at least to me, was nothing more than a big entrance exam to college. If you go through HS with that in mind, I think it really helps you to see the "point" of it all much more clearly. Also, its an excellent opportunity to rack up some hefty scholarships to pay for your college expenses. Scholarships are something I didn't take enough advantage of and I'm regretting it now -_-;;. Even if you're pretty well off, extra money is always good, ne?

General Shino
04-20-2005, 07:41 PM
The only time you are wasting life is when you take the life of another

Azalie
04-21-2005, 06:17 AM
I feel that way constantly...

ComeComeParadise
04-21-2005, 06:34 AM
Yeah, I'm constantly wasting time. I'm studying a course which I have absolutely no interest in. It's wasting 3 years of my time and 60,000 bucks of my money.

Azalie
04-21-2005, 06:40 AM
Yeah, I'm constantly wasting time. I'm studying a course which I have absolutely no interest in. It's wasting 3 years of my time and 60,000 bucks of my money.

Amen! :nod:

Svenjamin
05-01-2005, 09:01 AM
when i was 15, i wished i was 12, so i could make up for the potential i have lost, now i am 18, wishing i was 15, so i could make up for the potential i have lost...

i guessi should stop wasting time now, before im 21
i really wanna start going to gym, karate, stop video games, do something REAL, give my life a great purpose...

i know its a bit deep. but its honest, who else feels the same?

NinjaJedi007
05-20-2005, 01:50 PM
high school was a waste of time i think. people say its supposed to prepare you for college... what a pile of horsecrap. high school didnt prepare me for anything at all, it was a joke! i barely had to try and got a very good gpa at all times. now after the first year of college i pretty much had to teach myself how to be a good student. urgh, at least now i know what im supposed to do in school and how to do it.

avraell
05-23-2005, 12:27 AM
when i was 15, i wished i was 12, so i could make up for the potential i have lost, now i am 18, wishing i was 15, so i could make up for the potential i have lost...

i guessi should stop wasting time now, before im 21
i really wanna start going to gym, karate, stop video games, do something REAL, give my life a great purpose...

i know its a bit deep. but its honest, who else feels the same?

Me. I am tired of being a worthless piece of shit, on the other hand, I have grown much since frehsman year. Now that I am out of high school (first weekday of no school tomorrow!! work 10 hours :() I wish I would have done more with myself. We will see, what me and you need to do is get off aim and get better at shit

Miss CCV
05-30-2005, 06:15 AM
Lately I've been feeling I've been wasting valuable time in my life. Because of the DUI I got last September, it has prevented me from driving for a year. It's excrutiating. I dislike staying home being a bum, especially when my semester of college just finished. I need to go job-hunting again, but I have minimal choices due to the fact that I can't drive myself around. I have to get rides from my parents or friends. It's pretty pathetic, but I just have to get used to it until October. I'll be sooo glad once I get my license back! I'll be able to redeem myself and get another job again...I hope!

Kira Yamato
05-30-2005, 10:52 AM
I sometimes feel that way. I mean the whole point is to live, grow up, go to school, find a job, have kids, grow old, retire then die. But at the same time I feel there are so many things that I look forward to and the fact that I don't really know what will happen next keeps things interesting.

uncanny_sama
05-30-2005, 10:55 AM
life is what you make of it, if you feel your wasting time then make every second count, its as simple as that, stuff like this you are in control of not fate not destiny but you

Gravespawn
05-30-2005, 11:48 PM
You can't waste time because in the end nothing matters so 20 years after you are dead it won't matter what you did, and 1000 years no one will even know about you. So you could live life to the fullest or you could sit around doing nothing and you are still going to end up the same way.

Swizzy
05-31-2005, 04:23 AM
i feel like im wasting my time in skool, i dont even enjoy going, im doing a course that getz me into uni, but im not interested in going any more, they except us to go to skool for 6 hourz then go home and revise for every subject of TEE for at least 1 hour, so thatz 10 hourz of study a day, all i do is dream dream about being outside with a soccer ball, or doing something i enjoy, most the time im outside excercising, i do believe life is waht u make it, but sometimez you are jsut restricted too much

Ginnylin
06-02-2005, 02:56 AM
well, i am a uni student and here i am typing in a narutofan forum when i have an essay that is due in less than 24 hrs (that i havent started mind you). We deal with the things that life throws at us and try and make the best of it. Its not a waste of time, we are doing what is necessary to equip us to be able to do later on in life what we WANT to do. And i am only 19 as well. When i was in high school many many years ago lol, i didnt feel this down... you guys are young, cheer up! =)

syrin
06-03-2005, 04:05 AM
yeah sure,sometimes i fell that im wasting my time, should be doing something different, blah blah etc. I think most of us feel that at sometime, whether its becuase your depressed, not enjoying what your doing, or many other reasons. But hey, while schools are not always the best way of learning things, they are the best system at the moment for teaching people the skills they need for later in life in their society.

i feel like im wasting my time in skool, i dont even enjoy going, im doing a course that getz me into uni, but im not interested in going any more, they except us to go to skool for 6 hourz then go home and revise for every subject of TEE for at least 1 hour, so thatz 10 hourz of study a day, all i do is dream dream about being outside with a soccer ball, or doing something i enjoy, most the time im outside excercising, i do believe life is waht u make it, but sometimez you are jsut restricted too much

yeah..... i slacked off a bit in year 12 (which means i did shit all study all year) and i was a bit disappointed with my TER. Still got into uni but didnt do as well as i thought i would have, or should have.

yo586
06-03-2005, 04:09 AM
haha if school makes yall feel like ur wasting ur time, do enough to get by, but spend more time on finding out what really matters to yall. personally, i hated high school, but im going to college for seomthing i really enjoy and its made school a much better experience for me. and next summer i get to fly down to aussie and do physical therapy down unda :)

imchemist
07-24-2005, 04:07 PM
Well, wasting time is part of being alive...I think. It is not really a waste of time when you are trying to figure out what to do with your life.

Zerolok
07-24-2005, 04:12 PM
Only that short moment before I pass out cold before sleep.

qooro
07-24-2005, 06:49 PM
I feel like im wasting my time... im not going to waste it anymore im going to use my time wisely from now on

bigbird
07-24-2005, 07:03 PM
I feel like I'm wasting time, when I have to learn shit that I'll never use again for the rest of my life!!! Pre-calculus and physics. Bleah, I spit on thee!

EternalHatred
07-28-2005, 08:42 AM
I think I don't have enough time! How could I be wasting my time!?!?!?!?
ARRR!
All the games! All the animes! All the technology! All the science! All the fun! All the truth! Too much with too little time!!! XP

Eden Prime
07-28-2005, 09:33 PM
I don't have a problem with it, because that's just society-interaction and society-behavior. The way i act personally is quite different no matter how specific the road 'i should take' is.

Chamcham Trigger
07-28-2005, 09:37 PM
yup. I know that there really is no real thing as wasting your time (well maybe sleeping all day could be an exception). But I've been forced to believe that anything that isn't spent in the persuit of a new job, or a book is wasting my time. So I guess I waste my time 60 percent of the time. I've always felt that as long as you realize that you're living your life you are living your life to the fullest, and thus are not really wasting your time, this doesn't mean that I agree with myself yet.

Eden Prime
07-28-2005, 09:41 PM
yup. I know that there really is no real thing as wasting your time (well maybe sleeping all day could be an exception). But I've been forced to believe that anything that isn't spent in the persuit of a new job, or a book is wasting my time. So I guess I waste my time 60 percent of the time. I've always felt that as long as you realize that you're living your life you are living your life to the fullest, and thus are not really wasting your time, this doesn't mean that I agree with myself yet.

Also depends on your definition of that phrase. Casual normal citizens have a different idea of it than druggies and alcoholics n' such.:sad

Redux-shika boo
07-29-2005, 04:09 AM
people who say make every second count guess what that's impossible.. in reality you waste a minimum of 3/4 of your "life on neccessity" Sleeping eating, education, work.. whatever you do with the other 1/4 falls into extra and if you like your extra stuff even if your laying around staring at your feet if you enjoy it it ain't a waste bub

No action is a waster it the user enjoy it or believes it not to be.

My life goal = live easy.. as in no stress.. at the moemnt though I am stressed to acheive that goal.. OH HO the irony

actually I lied I'm actually from a family of heirs and I lazy around all day with wods of thousand dollar bills as my bed...!!! this isn't sarcasm .. bub

Rui
11-28-2005, 10:58 AM
Well, right now I can't sleep so I feel like I'm wasting my time playing WarcraftIII.

rimpelcut
11-29-2005, 11:38 PM
dude, you are 17. 17 year olds often have a I don't care, it doesn't matter view on the world. Ok do a self-analysation: do I have something interesting to do? >no: go do something yes: well, go do it! don't waste time fool.

Heldensheld
11-30-2005, 09:07 AM
Yay, I reckon it's time-wasting except for those who are talented or smart and have a future gauranted through their college lives...

That I am not :'( .

rimpelcut
11-30-2005, 06:41 PM
/\ all people are the same. the once that are talented etc still have something to want and therefore are still wasting time.

earthshine
11-30-2005, 06:47 PM
just relax and dont worry about it. your not wasting time if your having fun. relax, pay attention to the world around you, you can learn many things this way. dont let things like school and jobs pressure you, as they dont matter, we all die, and at the end of my life, i would like to think that i really took my time and enjoyed myself, not frantically tried to keep up with a life i didint even like anyways. honestly, id be a drifter before i let that happen

rimpelcut
12-03-2005, 12:38 PM
maybe I am wasting my life.. damn, If only I could remember what it was I had to do.

reepa
12-30-2005, 10:54 PM
This thread is so true. Study, go to school, college, Uni, employment, retire, die? That's a rubbish life, and society's laws are flawed. Unfortunately we have to adapt. But it's still a flaw in the system. I can go into detail but I wont, especially the education system, dont get me started.

but school,college and stuff I would rather find an alternative. I heared the certain countries try to improve international affairs, and sign people up for private enrollment. I wont go in to detail what this means but u basically get to go abroad, I may take this. But may not either.

But yeah I understand what ppl say in this thread, and this is a good read. I will read this thread properly another day.

Dommy
12-30-2005, 11:46 PM
It's too late to regret now. :oh

Happiness is more important to me. :amuse

vanh
12-30-2005, 11:59 PM
i' in the univ now. when i finished high school , i wanted to get into a univ near my hometown. But everyone thought that my hometown is such a damn boring city that they didn't want me to stay there forever. My mother, my relatives and my teachers. They all said that i was a smart student so i should go to a big city a find my opportunity. u know what happened. i went to the biggest city in my country with a quite high mark.

i must tell ya.i don't like studying , especially learning by heart all the damn theories. But my country's ed system really sux. they made the students learn by heart almost everything.i am said to be smart just because i'm lazy and still get good grade , my maths points helped a lot.

now i'm in the univ. My parents, my relatives, my teachers, all those ppl who expect me to be the top in my univ class will be very disappointed to know that i won't. i just try to say, to me thats really nonsense.

i'm wasting my time lol .stupid me

Kush P
12-31-2005, 12:42 AM
Yep its like that I guess, nothing is really a wasted time if you learn something new...Like example, you can chill and relax just listening to music but out of a sudden, a musician might sing something that made you realize an idea. You might apply that idea in your life.. You might have picked up a book, read an article, talked to a friend..you can learn something from someone anywhere at anytime. Personally, I thought internet and forums are a big waste of my time, until I accidentally clicked on a link for this forum while trying to download naruto this week. I learned some new ideas, political, philosphical or scientific in this forum....who knows it might be helpful.

vanh
12-31-2005, 12:54 AM
ppl think that they are wasting their time because they have another targets to achieve while they are stuck with other stuffs thats nonsense in their opinoins .

it's true that if u lose sth, then u can get back other things in return. for example, if i hadn't gone to this damn city, i would be staying at home coz it's weekend. But if i stayed at home, then i wouldn't have known that this city is such damn boring and noisy place.

But ppl's feelings still matters. they want to get what they really want. and they often can't see all the others things coming.

i'm kinda one of those ppl :amuse

sharingan_clan213
12-31-2005, 01:01 AM
Wow...we think alike

This is so true. Firs we are born. We go to school. We find a job. We suffer in life. Then we retire. We die from stupid reason. Hopefully someone will remember us. To me the U.S. Education system is really stupid. We spent almost a third of our life going to school. If we dont do good, then we wil have a hard time getting a high pay job. Then, there are those who just have a really bad luck. Even if we are smart, we might fail and suffer. Sometimes i think things are so unfair.

I thought about this exact smae thing so many times...

Kush P
12-31-2005, 02:23 AM
I heard giant turtles have an average lifespan of over 100 years..They even tend to outgrew their human observers. Is it possible that these turtles sees a different concept of time that we do?

sasukecopyninja
12-31-2005, 03:15 AM
Man you gotta look at it this way. no matter what your doing your wasting your life away. simply because no matter what the end result is death so no amtter what you do you get there, so arn't you jsut wasting time until inevidibility? Yeah you are so no matter how you do things you're just pasing the time waiting for your time to come. But see its just how well you use your time, like I wanna waste mine at a computer making hunderds of thousands of dollars a year or i wanna work ina kitchen cooking and baking^_^ some people wanna waste thier time sitting in their parents basement playin video games, it just depends how u wanna waste your time:P

Koala
12-31-2005, 05:27 AM
I used to be all stressed and wanting to get A's and junk but now I just be lazy and play xbox instead of doing homework. I never pay attention in class and am disrespectful to some of my teachers. Suprisingly I get A's and B's...I do feel I'm wasting my time in school...there's somethings that make it better but I still dislike it...I got pretty depressed when I thought about what happens after school...work...unless I could do something awesome and fun...or be a farmer...I think it will be lame...and then you work until you die pretty much...and while your old and stuff you can't even remember half your life...

Kush P
12-31-2005, 05:42 AM
Lol I cant find life too depressing....Man sounds like every one gots the blues. When it gets too depressing, somehow I can feel my brain working better to find a better idea on how to live my life.

kapsi
12-31-2005, 08:34 AM
Everyone think so when they are young. Don't worry, you'll be like everyone else in a few years time :thumbs

Kush P
12-31-2005, 09:06 AM
Lol its cool, I already hit my most depressing and lowest point a couple of years back....whatever left now should be cake...

Kin
12-31-2005, 09:11 AM
I know I am. I know I can study as hard as my best friend, but the problem is just that Im too lazy to study, so yea, I guess I am wasting my time. But I promised somebody I would study hard.. So at the end of the year I can go to the same school as my best friend, alteast if I work hard enough.

vanh
12-31-2005, 09:14 AM
u do what u wanna do. That's the best way to make u happy and u will never feel that u're wasting ur time.

Paracetamol Boy
12-31-2005, 09:18 AM
I know I am. I know I can study as hard as my best friend, but the problem is just that Im too lazy to study, so yea, I guess I am wasting my time. But I promised somebody I would study hard.. So at the end of the year I can go to the same school as my best friend, alteast if I work hard enough.

Me too, I just can't be bothered to study. At least you have a purpose. My best friend and I are going to study in the same place anyway, so I have no real motivation...

Well, I can conclude that not only do I waste my time, I revel in doing so. :amuse

rimpelcut
12-31-2005, 12:56 PM
if you have nothing to do then you are not wasting time.

GOD'S BITCH
01-05-2006, 10:08