Captain America + Batman + Wolverine vs 500,000 Oompa Loompas

[CrazyMoronX]

Title.

The Oompa Loompas are armed with brass knuckles, chains, and combat knives.

Who wins this epic battle?

Victory conditions:

All Oompas dead
All heroes dead, KO'd, or incapacitated for a time

[Reznor]

Title.

The Oompa Loompas are armed with brass knuckles, chains, and combat knives.

Who wins this epic battle?

Victory conditions:

All Oompas dead
All heroes dead, KO'd, or incapacitated for a time
Well, half a million is a lot of fucking Oompa Loompas.

They'd have to find a way to either take out multiple at once or to space out the fighting.

[Xell]

Oompa Loompas can't even fight X_X

And Wolverine can heal so... If he gets wounded then he'll just heal.. Well with 500,000 attacking you it'd be pretty hard but still.

I don't really know much about american heroes, I'm more into manga.

[Gunshin]

This would all depend on how many days Captain America and Wolverine can go without sleeping. Batman is done for.

[Fenix]

Half a million!?

Mmm

Well, assuming Batman doesnt have prep time.

This is definitely up to Wolvie and Cpt. America

[Goodfellow]

All hail the migghty Oompa Loompas. Sieg Heil Fuhrer Loompa!!

(If anyone doesn't like me ascosiating Oompa Looppas with nazigerman, then keep it for yourself, k? Just assume I'm a bad person or something...)

[Reznor]

If they each kill one per second every second and don't sleep, it will take them almost 2 whole days (46 hours)

That's an extremely idealistic rate too.

In order to win, they need to have ways of taking out groups, or spacing out the fighting.

If they can hole themselves up and let one or two rest while the others fight, then trade off, they can win.

If they just go straight brawl approach, it seems kinda hard.

[~Shin~]

If batman has prep time then he can take all of them out easily but if no then batman loses and then cap has to use his shield to block and wolverine has to do some killing

[Gooba]

Wolverine has gone against Omega Red for 18 hours straight, and he is a hell of a lot more draining to fight than this meat grinder. I think the best idea would be for Wolverine to do a large amount of the fighting, while Batman retreats to try and put something together to blow a hell of a lot of them up, or some sort of poison gas to release on the battlefield.

[martryn]

How big is the battlefield? Is it just some vast arena, or are we talking about something a little more freeroaming? I think that will determine it.

[lucky]

wolverine can just tear into them... batman can blow them up or poison them wiht his rediculous arsenal, and capt can just play 'cut the head off wiht the frisbee' with his shield all day.


But i actually think they'll tire out long before the oompas run out. I mean 500,000... shit that's bigger than some armies.

[Gunshin]

Now that I think about it... after a day of fighting standing on a mountain of dead oompa lumpas, wouldn't Batman and Captain America vulnerable to certain diseases? How would the stench effect them?

[Hitotsumami]

Oompa Loompas might pull off a win.

[Locard]

wolverine can just tear into them... batman can blow them up or poison them wiht his rediculous arsenal, and capt can just play 'cut the head off wiht the frisbee' with his shield all day.
But i actually think they'll tire out long before the oompas run out. I mean 500,000... shit that's bigger than some armies.
-Batman? yes, he can get tired
-Wolverine? no, almost infinite stamina and healing factor
-Cap? no, he never tires.
Now that I think about it... after a day of fighting standing on a mountain of dead oompa lumpas, wouldn't Batman and Captain America vulnerable to certain diseases? How would the stench effect them?
-Cap is inmune to diseases. He never get sick. Just like Wolverine.

I bet on the heroes, with Batman as a possible issue

[~Shin~]

Cap never tires out?
I thought he was only peak human?

[lucky]

i do'nt htink capt is immune... his body just processes toxins and wastes better. More tolerant to diseases, more stamina, sure... but i do'nt know about being immune.

[Locard]

Cap never tires out?
I thought he was only peak human?
The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue. He's not just a peak human, show me another human able to hold his breath for 10 minutes.

i do'nt htink capt is immune... his body just processes toxins and wastes better. More tolerant to diseases, more stamina, sure... but i do'nt know about being immune.He' inmune to common diseases. You'll never see him catching a cold or something.

[Cy]

Even if Batman doesn't have prep time, Wolverine and the Captain can make prep time for him by holding off the Oompa Loompas.

And for the record, are these the cartoon ones, the ones from the new movie, or the ones from the old movie? Yes, it matters.

Also, Batman+Wolverine=Dark Claw. Dark Claw just has to look at the Oompa Loompas and he wins.

[Green Lantern]

Half a million :omg

Consider that number for a second.

3 dudes- superheroes, but still human nonetheless versus HALF A FRICKING MILLION oompa loompas...

Half a million- realistically speaking they would be fighting for weeks without sleep, food or water (dunno about food or water, just guessing :P)

Half a million- thats like asking those 3 to take down Nazi Germany- solo.

Seriously- half million oompa loompas ftw

[Reznor]

Half a million

Consider that number for a second. I did. Read my post.
Wolverine has gone against Omega Red for 18 hours straight, and he is a hell of a lot more draining to fight than this meat grinder. I think the best idea would be for Wolverine to do a large amount of the fighting, while Batman retreats to try and put something together to blow a hell of a lot of them up, or some sort of poison gas to release on the battlefield. I think people think too much "What can he build?" whenever prep-time is mentioned.

There are alot easy more effective things he could use. Like terrian which would favor them (like alleys, they force one-on-ones when they need to cool down) or lurking them into traps (blow up a gas station?) or enviromental hazards (cliffs, falling rocks?)

[Gooba]

I would believe Wolverine could fight for a week without stopping, if he had good enough motivation and was berserking. However, I think he could also do better than 1 per second, so it wouldn't take that long.

[earthshine]

Oompas.

not because they can actuall kill any of them, just because the sheer MASS of the groups will be able to bog down the heroes to the point they can't even move, meaning they lose.


other than that, heroes win. cap and wolverine can fights for a LOOONG time, and bats has explosives. if the oompas came in sets of like 100 or so, they would take it easy, but 500,000 at ounce is too much. it would be like a wall of flesh.

[Reznor]

I would believe Wolverine could fight for a week without stopping, if he had good enough motivation and was berserking. However, I think he could also do better than 1 per second, so it wouldn't take that long. He could do better than one per second in short bursts. I can easily imagine him cleave from one to another. But that's not going to happen constantly.

In other words, I'm sure there will be less than a second between some killings, but not as a constant rate. Imagine encircling him with all 1/2 million Oompa Lompas. After he kills the first few close to him, the perimeter gets wider. Then it becomes a running game to get to them all - assuming that they stand still.

But if they all rush him, the circle around him gets smaller radius as they converge. It just strikes me as near impossible to get the idealistic set-up so that he can kill more than one a second.

Mind you, I think they could still win, but 1/2 a million is a ridiculous number.

[Roy]

if Batman has prep time they win easily.. withought prep time it'll be really tough.. but I dont see the oompa loompas winning at all..

[Green Lantern]

Lets just make some assumptions here:

Assuming that each Oompa loompa weighs around 35 kilos.

Half a million x 35 kilos =17,500,000 kilos or 17 thousand 500 tonnes.

Of course, depending on terrain etc the fight could swing either way, but imagine 17 thousand tonnes of Oompa loompa's charging towards you.

3 people are not going to be able to directly stop 17 thousand tonnes of oompa loompas irregardless of how powerful their jobber auras are- if they all decided to just jump on top of the 3, even a couple of thousand piling on top of them would be enough to stop the 3, let alone HALF A FRICKING MILLION BODIES.

Stop over estimating Wolverine and Captain America- you would need at least Ironman level capabilities to take on half a million people- without area of effect abilities capable of killing thousands at once, half a million is too many.

(Batman's grenades not withstanding)

[omg laser pew pew!]

Well Capt could probably pull a shield feat that takes out a few thousand with a throw that bounces around 17 times before landing in his hand

At that point Wolverine will jip 'How long you been practising that?'

Really I can't see them winning. This is like the 'Orochimaru VS 2 million Dosu' thread from a while back in the Naruto BDome

[Gooba]

Lets just make some assumptions here:

Assuming that each Oompa loompa weighs around 35 kilos.

Half a million x 35 kilos =17,500,000 kilos or 17 thousand 500 tonnes.

Of course, depending on terrain etc the fight could swing either way, but imagine 17 thousand tonnes of Oompa loompa's charging towards you.

3 people are not going to be able to directly stop 17 thousand tonnes of oompa loompas irregardless of how powerful their jobber auras are- if they all decided to just jump on top of the 3, even a couple of thousand piling on top of them would be enough to stop the 3, let alone HALF A FRICKING MILLION BODIES.

Stop over estimating Wolverine and Captain America- you would need at least Ironman level capabilities to take on half a million people- without area of effect abilities capable of killing thousands at once, half a million is too many.

(Batman's grenades not withstanding)They can't just all jump on top of them at once, logistically it just doesn't work. Also, they might be 17 tons of body charging at them, but they aren't going to try and do a pushing contest. All those stats don't matter at all to a battle like this. Wolverine successfully fought 50 thousand ninjas, and they didn't just completely crush him under their weight or anything like that. He just ran through them, cutting and killing.

Rez, I think you underestimate how long 1 second really is. He can keep running, staying in the group of them getting way more kills than 1 per second. He can probably run at 10 meters per second, giving him 30 feet to find at least one body if he runs out of people near him. However, it is more likely he will be able to just run around at lets say half that, cutting everyone immediately on each side of him. If oompas take up, lets say, 2 feet, that is 15ish per second for him alone. 15 per second, for 500,000 oompas is 33,333 seconds to kill them all, or 555 minutes, which is 9.25 hours. Wolverine has been shown to be able to go all out, against one of his greatest enemies, who has the ability to specifically drain your life force (insanely tiring), for 18 hours before being beaten. Even if you think my estimation is high, and he could only kill at half my rate, that is still enough time even if Batman can't gas/explode an area.

[Sasori]

Location is key in this battle.

[Endless Mike]

That's way too many....

[Reznor]

They can't just all jump on top of them at once, logistically it just doesn't work. Also, they might be 17 tons of body charging at them, but they aren't going to try and do a pushing contest. All those stats don't matter at all to a battle like this. Wolverine successfully fought 50 thousand ninjas, and they didn't just completely crush him under their weight or anything like that. He just ran through them, cutting and killing. 50,000 ninjas? He easly takes this then, since he has 2 teammates and any ninja is better trained than these oompa lompas.
Rez, I think you underestimate how long 1 second really is.
No, I actually used a stopwatch while imagining it. I didn't make the assumption that a second is an instant.

I was considering wheter he could continue to get a killing rate of 1 per second.
Even if you think my estimation is high, and he could only kill at half my rate, that is still enough time even if Batman can't gas/explode an area.
Um.... Let's be clear that I was debating how easy it would be, not wheter or not they could do it.

How long did the 50,000 ninjas fight take? That gives us a better minimum killing rate (since I'd assume ninjas could defend themselves better than oompas)

I think 15/sec sounds a bit high, since it's an idealistic number - sort of like the way radishbak assumed you could add the weight XD

[Gooba]

50,000 ninjas? He easly takes this then, since he has 2 teammates and any ninja is better trained than these oompa lompas.Well, he only killed 5,000 of them, and I'd give about 200 kills to the Sentinal he rode in on, and a good 1,000 to Elektra (she joined him halfway in). I was just using this to prove that a huge number can't just bury people as agile as these super-ninjas.
No, I actually used a stopwatch while imagining it. I didn't make the assumption that a second is an instant.

I was considering wheter he could continue to get a killing rate of 1 per second.
Um.... Let's be clear that I was debating how easy it would be, not wheter or not they could do it.It is just that you said he would be able to burst-kill faster, then need to go get to another group. Even if he fought like that, he would have a 30 foot radius to find a single person if he wanted to keep that rate which is really easy.
How long did the 50,000 ninjas fight take? That gives us a better minimum killing rate (since I'd assume ninjas could defend themselves better than oompas)

I think 15/sec sounds a bit high, since it's an idealistic number - sort of like the way radishbak assumed you could add the weight XDI really am not sure how long it took, it was just a lot of slashing while running. All I can tell is it was probably between 1-10, and he probably did 3k himself.

I bet that he could fight for at least 36 hours straight, if not much more. Against these guys he is not going to get hit. Against Omega Red he was fighting an even opponent, meaning he is getting his ass kicked and needing to have his healing factor work the entire fight. Not only is it working, but it is going against a Carbonadium opponent, which is a huge healing factor inhibitor, so it is working overtime. He is also emitting death spores which generally kill anyone near him in a minutes, so he is fighting that the entire time as well. The overall toll to his stamina from that fight is many times what a simple run and slash would be. If he can only last 36 hours, that needs 3.85 per second. If he can last 54, it is 2.57, 72 is 1.9. I think with a pace down there, it wouldn't actually be that difficult for him to keep it up.

I really don't know enough about Cap's stamina to talk about him, and Batman seems like he could do anything from take out a few hundred before getting too tired, to killing them all himself with some gadget.

[Locard]

^ It was mentioned in Wizard a long time ago, that Cap's stamina under normal conditions (i suppose that means: without taking damage) is endless.

[Gooba]

Captain America wins with a speedblitz.
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5889/caf17speedlightaz4.jpg

Going by his "endless" endurance, you can cut that rate needed in half, since Cap can do almost as well as Wolvie at killing.

[omg laser pew pew!]

And how accurate is Wizard?

Unless you wanna believe ss2 Goku is stronger than Supes

[Locard]

And how accurate is Wizard?

Dunno, but i also remember an interview with Marvel's editor (dont remember the name) and Dennis o' Neil from DC. About a possible Batman vs Cap match, it was something like this:

Marvel: Cap takes this one, an example, if Batman throws a stink bomb to him, he can hold his breath for several minutes, moreover, Batman does get tired, Cap never tires and he has more experience and...

O'neil: Forget about holding breath, forget about never-tiring, Batman will never be stopped...

So, as you can see , many people aknowledges Cap's endless endurance.

[Reznor]

And how accurate is Wizard?
Unless you wanna believe ss2 Goku is stronger than Supes Yeah, I remember reading that.
(Note: I'm confirming seeing that in Wizard, not turning this into a DBZ thread)
Dunno, but i also remember an interview with Marvel's editor (dont remember the name) and Dennis o' Neil from DC. About a possible Batman vs Cap match, it was something like this:

Marvel: Cap takes this one, an example, if Batman throws a stink bomb to him, he can hold his breath for several minutes, moreover, Batman does get tired, Cap never tires and he has more experience and...

O'neil: Forget about holding breath, forget about never-tiring, Batman will never be stopped...

So, as you can see , many people aknowledges Cap's endless endurance. That's a stupid example. :huh

He found one defense he has and assumed that any plan/gadget would have the same outcome.

[Hiruma]

Oompa Loompas can try singing all at once. How loud would that be?

[Reznor]

Oompa Loompas can try singing all at once. How loud would that be? They aren't going to be in spot.

Maybe the oompa loompas can pack in tight enough to form a black hole?

[Endless Mike]

Just so you know, I never listen to anything Wizard says.

[Kazuma the Shell Bullet]

500,000 Oompa Loompas, that's more than there are people in some states. Batman is toast and Cap. wouldnt survive that long, it's all on Wolverine and if its just him I doubt he could win

[itachi7]

i say wolverine and c man because the ompa loompas would start freakin sining and their heads willl be geting cut off at the same time by midnight they should when it would take about 5 hours

[Jin22]

Bah...make this thing more interesting. Get rid of Cap and Bats and throw in Zoro and Das Bones.

[Cy]

Just thinking... with 500K Oompa Loompas, it doesn't matter what the terrain was like when the fight started- unless they disappear when they die, the mountains of dead would be large enough to greatly effect battlefield tactics.

Batman: Ok, we retreat to the second half of that corpse ravine, and then Cap and Wolverine hold the neck while I sleep. And then we can eat the walls for food. Or we can set the corpses on fire and burn everything since there are so many. And then the Oompa Loompas all die. Muahahahaha.

[Locard]

i say wolverine and c man because the ompa loompas would start freakin singing very true, singing is a very important part of the Ompa lompa fighting style.

The tought of Wolverine decapitating the Ompas while singing made me lol

[Gooba]

Another Wolverine Endurance feat.
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9743/wolverinen51p01va5.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9200/wolverinen51p02nz3.jpgWhen he is just tearing through the danger room robots on max (way better than an Oompa Loompa) he is "on neutral". Against Omega Red he was going all out the whole time.