Naruto Vs Wolverine

[Eclypse]

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Who do u think will win
Naruto has fased people like this before but wolverines pretty good who do u think will win yall

[Comic Book Guy]

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Does Naruto have access to Kyuubi chakra or no?

[BattousaiMS]

Naruto versus Wolverine = Wolverine wins hand down.

Kyuubi Naruto versus Wolverine = Wolverine still wins but Kyuubi Naruto can get a suprise win if Logan put's his guard down.

[Eclypse]

yes naruto has kyuubi chakra

[Suzumebachi]

Wolverine would demolish him.

[Paul the SK]

Wolverine would generally be more powerful than Naruto. Though with Kyuubi chakra it would be a tough match.

But if Naruto enters KN4 then Wolverine is pretty much screwed.

[Gunshin]

Wolverine would win this one hands down. It'd be curious to see this matchup again once we learn more about what post-time skip Naruto is capable of.

[Paul the SK]

Wolverine would win this one hands down. It'd be curious to see this matchup again once we learn more about what post-time skip Naruto is capable of.
Yes, Naruto is almost one of the weekest in the Battledome. Before long that is going to change, I'm willing to bet.

[jplaya2023]

i dont think naruto can kill wolverine, none of his techniques are that strong, so he'll have to KO which he can do.

[Paul the SK]

i dont think naruto can kill wolverine, none of his techniques are that strong, so he'll have to KO which he can do.
The black orb Kyuubi chakra blast could most likely kill Wolverine.

Oodama Rasengan, mabye, but I'm not going to go either way on this one.

Besides, it would be very hard for Naruto to last long enough to get in one of these powerful blows. I'm just saying its possible for Naruto to kill him.

[ÐÈPRÈŞŞÈÐ]

The black orb Kyuubi chakra blast could most likely kill Wolverine.

I'm not sure about that. Wolverine has a powerful healing factor, and has even survived a nuclear blast(though I hear that it was pretty outrageous).

[Paul the SK]

I'm not sure about that. Wolverine has a powerful healing factor, and has even survived a nuclear blast(though I hear that it was pretty outrageous).
This is were its impossible to tell. Mixing the physics and powers from different universes is illogical, and leaves the rest up to guessing based on which character you like better.

This is why the Battledome is made of fail.

[Gunshin]

I'm not sure about that. Wolverine has a powerful healing factor, and has even survived a nuclear blast(though I hear that it was pretty outrageous).
Is that how he consistantly performs? And was he KOd when that happened? Gotta think about those things.

[Mangekyō]

Narut MIGHT be able to beat this with KN4 but otherwise very likely no, and with the regeneration in wolverine, idk.

[Renegade]

I don't see what Wolverine would be able to do against KN4.

Naruto's dense chakra ball should be enough to obliterate Wolverine. Including his adamantium skeleton.

[Endless Mike]

I don't see what Wolverine would be able to do against KN4.

Naruto's dense chakra ball should be enough to obliterate Wolverine. Including his adamantium skeleton.

Bullshit. Top - tiers who can punch apart planets can't even bend Adamantium. Thor's hammer, which has slayed gods, can only dent it. Being in the center of the sun can't destroy it.

[Paul the SK]

Bullshit. Top - tiers who can punch apart planets can't even bend Adamantium. Thor's hammer, which has slayed gods, can only dent it. Being in the center of the sun can't destroy it.
But you can't prove that the black kyuubi chakra can't destroy adaptainium. The black Kyuubi chakra is by far the most powerful chakra seen so far in the Narutoverse. Pitting it against adaptainium, the strongest substance in the X-Menverse, is an impossible outcome, no matter how much we argue.

Also, even if it dosn't destroy his skeleton, it would completely vaportize all of his flesh and organs. Could Wolverine heal all that? (I haven't read alot of the comics but I have seen the movies and the old cartoon)

[Shiron]

Umm, he just did; it's taken much worse. :oh I don't know how you could argue that KN4's orb attack will do much to it, when it's taken much, much worse. Besides, the burden of proof is on you to prove it can destroy adimantium, not the other way around.

And yes, he could. One of his recent feats has been regenerating from a skeleton.

[Suzumebachi]

But you can't prove that it can't destroy adaptainium. The black Kyuubi chakra is by far the most powerful chakra seen so far in the Narutoverse. Pitting it against adaptainium, the strongest substance in the X-Menverse, is an impossible outcome, no matter how much we argue.

It takes cosmic forces to bend and destroy adamantium. The kind of damage left by the Chakra Bullet isn't nearly as strong as anything that has even dented it.


Also, even if it dosn't destroy his skeleton, it would completely vaportize all of his flesh and organs. Could Wolverine heal all that? (I haven't read the comics but I have seen the movies and the old cartoon)

Yes. Yes he can actually. Wolverine has regenerated from a drop of blood before. I don't have scans, but Mike might.

[Comic Book Guy]

But you can't prove that the black kyuubi chakra can't destroy adaptainium. The black Kyuubi chakra is by far the most powerful chakra seen so far in the Narutoverse. Pitting it against adaptainium, the strongest substance in the X-Menverse, is an impossible outcome, no matter how much we argue.

The ki ball has to be quite powerful by cosmic standards.

Also, even if it dosn't destroy his skeleton, it would completely vaportize all of his flesh and organs. Could Wolverine heal all that? (I haven't read the comics but I have seen the movies and the old cartoon)

Yeah. Recently, Wolverine regenerated from being an Adamantium skeleton quite quickly. Supposedly, as a poster pointed this out to me earlier (which I confirmed later), the increased healing to regen factor is a plot point by Marvel that is to be addressed later.

Currently, I blame Wanda for the regen factor.

Wolverine has regenerated from a drop of blood before. I don't have scans, but Mike might.

Now this, I have never came across of. Are you sure you're not mistaking that from Lobo?

[Paul the SK]

It takes cosmic forces to bend and destroy adamantium. The kind of damage left by the Chakra Bullet isn't nearly as strong as anything that has even dented it.
The chakra bullet is an evil spiritual force. Sound on par with cosmic forces to me, even if the damage isnt quite as impressive. The black orb is concentrated chakra, packed down into a tiny bullet. It may not cause a planet shattering explosion, but its force on impact could possibly vaprize the strongest of matter.

This is specualtion but its just as possible as the black orb having no effect at all.

Yes. Yes he can actually. Wolverine has regenerated from a drop of blood before. I don't have scans, but Mike might.
I'll take your word for it. But even if he dosn't die from the blast, I don't see any way for Wolverine to overpower KN4.

[Suzumebachi]

I'll take your word for it. But even if he dosn't die from the blast, I don't see how he could stop KN4.

Cut its head off?


The chakra bullet is an evil spiritual force. Sound on par with cosmic forces to me, even if the damage isnt quite as impressive. The black orb is concentrated chakra, packed down into a tiny bullet. It may not cause a planet shattering explosion, but its force on impace could possibly vaprize the strongest of matter.

Kyuubi is far from cosmic.

[SoulTaker540]

The chakra bullet is an evil spiritual force. Sound on par with cosmic forces to me, even if the damage isnt quite as impressive. The black orb is concentrated chakra, packed down into a tiny bullet. It may not cause a planet shattering explosion, but its force on impace could possibly vaprize the strongest of matter.

You see if it was a cosmic force it would be planet shattering.

[Paul the SK]

Cut its head off?
Kyuubi was stabbed with a full power Kusanagi buy a pissed off Orochimaru and it didn't even phase him.

[Suzumebachi]

Kyuubi was stabbed with a full power Kusanagi buy a pissed off Orochimaru and it didn't even phase him.

Orochimaru didn't stab him with adamantium.

[Endless Mike]

But you can't prove that the black kyuubi chakra can't destroy adaptainium. The black Kyuubi chakra is by far the most powerful chakra seen so far in the Narutoverse. Pitting it against adaptainium, the strongest substance in the X-Menverse, is an impossible outcome, no matter how much we argue.

Of course I can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you to prove it would destroy it.

Also, even if it dosn't destroy his skeleton, it would completely vaportize all of his flesh and organs. Could Wolverine heal all that? (I haven't read the comics but I have seen the movies and the old cartoon)

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Keep in mind this is an above - average feat.

[Paul the SK]

Of course I can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you to prove it would destroy it.
This is why the battledome threads never get anywere. Pitting two universes with different physics is impossible to find a logical outcome. Its all about fan speculation.

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Keep in mind this is an above - average feat.
Okay, thanks for showing me that. To be honest I had no idea Wolverine was capable of doing that. Its been soooo long since I read any comicbooks.

[Comic Book Guy]

Okay, thanks for showing me that. To be honest I had no idea Wolverine was capable of doing that.

He shouldn't. Which is why Marvel said it's a plot point.

Currently, I blame Wanda.

[Endless Mike]

This is why the battledome threads never get anywere. Pitting two universes with different physics is impossible to find a logical outcome. Its all about fan speculation.

Of course it's possible. You observe their capabilities and compare them using logic and science to determine an objective outcome. Just because your favorite characters lose a fight doesn't mean you can declare all vs. debates are worthless.

[Paul the SK]

He shouldn't. Which is why Marvel said it's a plot point.

Currently, I blame Wanda.
Huh? I'm confused.

[Paul the SK]

Of course it's possible. You observe their capabilities and compare them using logic and science to determine an objective outcome. Just because your favorite characters lose a fight doesn't mean you can declare all vs. debates are worthless.
Thats not what I meant, I was saying that Kyuubi chakra dosn't exist in X-men. I'm still confident Naruto could win. I have just ran out of grounds to prove, and am too lazy to dig through my manga chapters to find any proof. You can say what you want.

To be honest, I'm a terrible debater, but am very stubborn with my opinions. I think Naruto can win. You think Wolverine could win. Neither of us are right or wrong.

[Endless Mike]

Thats not what I meant, I was saying that Kyuubi chakra dosn't exist in X-men. I'm still confident Naruto could win. I have just ran out of grounds to prove, and am too lazy to dig through my manga chapters to find any proof. You can say what you want.

Concession accepted.

To be honest, I'm a terrible debater, but am very stubborn with my opinions. I think Naruto can win. You think Wolverine could win. Neither of us are right or wrong.

Since you have failed to prove your points, and your statements have been refuted, then you're wrong.

[Paul the SK]

Since you have failed to prove your points, and your statements have been refuted, then you're wrong.
Not quite. Tell me a way that Wolverine can defeat KN4, if your so sure.

[Comic Book Guy]

Huh? I'm confused.

Wanda, the Scarlet Witch, has been retconned into an insane reality warper. She recently reality warped the Earth into a world where mutants ruled, and again in the current world where there's only 198 mutants left (herself is unknown) out of the hundreds of thousands.

I blame Wanda's reality warping for the regen factor.

Concession accepted.

EM, he/she is not jplaya2023. Do we really have to emulate him?

[Endless Mike]

Not quite. Tell me a way that Wolverine can defeat KN4, if your so sure.

Like Suzumebachi said, cut his head off.

[Suzumebachi]

Not quite. Tell me a way that Wolverine can defeat KN4, if your so sure.

Cut its head off.

Cut out Naruto's heart.

Cut him up in general.

[Endless Mike]

EM, he/she is not jplaya2023. Do we really have to emulate him?

He's hardly the first person to ever have said that.....

[Paul the SK]

Prove to me that adaptainum can pierce KN4's flesh.

[Suzumebachi]

Prove to me that adaptainum can pierce KN4's flesh.

It can cut through almost anything.

Orochimaru's sword, a sword that can cut through steel, is hardly a showing compared to adamantium claws.

[Endless Mike]

Prove to me that adaptainum can pierce KN4's flesh.

Primary adamantium is one of the strongest materials in the entire Marvel universe. It can cut through things like Iron Man's armor and the flesh of superbeings like the Thing and the Hulk. Are you claiming KN4 is tougher than the Hulk?

[Shiron]

Prove to me that adaptainum can pierce KN4's flesh.
It's harder than diamond, the hardest substance in the Narutoverse (there has been no indication of harder materials exsisting in it). Proof enough for you?

[Comic Book Guy]

Not quite. Tell me a way that Wolverine can defeat KN4, if your so sure.

Wolverine has very limited offence: his claws. His martial art skills won't help him much against the corrosive Kyuubi chakra.

It can be reasonable to assume that Adamantium > Kyuubi's chakra. It takes noted effort from Marvel Cosmics to bend Adamantium, least break it. I would not say the chakra of the Kyuubi is that of cosmic qualifications by Marvel standards.

Wolverine can't really be killed here, due to his current regen factor. The best a KN4 Naruto could do is a KO, which is possible.

He's hardly the first person to ever have said that.....


Understandable. But do we really have to act like jplaya2023 in using his arrogant, "Concession accepted" ? against posters who are not him?

[Paul the SK]

Wolverine has very limited offence: his claws. His martial art skills won't help him much against the corrosive Kyuubi chakra.

It can be reasonable to assume that Adamantium > Kyuubi's chakra. It takes noted effort from Marvel Cosmics to bend Adamantium, least break it. I would not say the chakra of the Kyuubi is that of cosmic qualifications by Marvel standards.

Wolverine can't really be killed here, due to his current regen factor. The best a KN4 Naruto could do is a KO, which is possible.
Alright, thanks. I rest my case. You have convinced me that Wolverine can defeat KN4 Naruto.

Your a very respectable guy in debates aswell. You deserve some rep.

[Renegade]

Bullshit. Top - tiers who can punch apart planets can't even bend Adamantium. Thor's hammer, which has slayed gods, can only dent it. Being in the center of the sun can't destroy it.
Damn, adamantium can withstand all that? :huh

I already know he can regenerate from a skeleton, so unless KN4 can obliterate adamantium, which it doesn't look like he can, Wolverine ftw.

[Comic Book Guy]

Damn, his adamantium withstood all that?

(True) Adamantium is quite, quite durable, even by Cosmic standards. It's second to Uru/Dargonite in terms of durability, a metal which has natural affinity to magic (e.g. Mjolnir).

[Gunshin]

Someone should make an adamantium thread. I'm really curious about the science behind it. Specifically about how humans can mold it, but even gods can't break it.

[Darklyre]

Apparently it requires Antarctic vibranium to dissolve it, since that specific type of vibranium liquifies all nearby metals, including adamantium.

[Hamaru]

But you can't prove that the black kyuubi chakra can't destroy adaptainium. The black Kyuubi chakra is by far the most powerful chakra seen so far in the Narutoverse. Pitting it against adaptainium, the strongest substance in the X-Menverse, is an impossible outcome, no matter how much we argue.

Also, even if it dosn't destroy his skeleton, it would completely vaportize all of his flesh and organs. Could Wolverine heal all that? (I haven't read alot of the comics but I have seen the movies and the old cartoon)

Truth is that if KN4's black orb had the power of the sun then just using the move would destroy the earth, so the fact that the sun could not destroy Wolverine shows that KN4 could not eathersmile-big

[Gooba]

The idea that anyone in Naruto could destroy Adamantium is completely and utterly ridiculous. People who could bitchslap Kyuubi himself can barely dent it, sometimes.

[NateRuto]

Didnt Wolverine live in Japan at one point? He fucked up some samurai's and Ninja's... thats real talk

[Ram]

If Naruto turns into a fox then I think he can win.

[Sasori]

lol get out of the OB ram xD

And, i'm puttin ma vote for Wolverine.

The points that CBG and the others have brought sway my decision.

[Ram]

No, I'm hijacking the OB today, everyone GTFO.

[Paul the SK]

Truth is that if KN4's black orb had the power of the sun then just using the move would destroy the earth, so the fact that the sun could not destroy Wolverine shows that KN4 could not eathersmile-big
Dosn't Itachi's black fire have the power of the sun? I heard that somewere and I want to know if thats true or just someone exaggerating.

I know it sounds illogical, but what if the heat of the sun is packed into a small space of matter? In the fictional universe, anything is possible.

[Endless Mike]

It's stated that the Amaterasu is as hot as the sun. However, something can be as hot as the sun without having nearly as much energy. Example: a modern plasma torch.

[Hamaru]

Dosn't Itachi's black fire have the power of the sun? I heard that somewere and I want to know if thats true or just someone exaggerating.

I know it sounds illogical, but what if the heat of the sun is packed into a small space of matter? In the fictional universe, anything is possible.

Yes. You can put a barrier around your attack so that it would not destroy surrounding things (like Kakasih's MS)

[Endless Mike]

Yes. You can put a barrier around your attack so that it would not destroy surrounding things (like Kakasih's MS)

Um, Kakashi's MS is a dimensional teleportation attack, not a confined barrier attack.

[Hamaru]

^ hmm I might have to look it over agean but I do remember it saying something lke that. Maybe Kakashi was talking about it while training Naruto.

[Endless Mike]

You're probably thinking of when he used it to teleport Deidara's exploding clone away.

[Hamaru]

^ oooo yea I think so

[Wrath]

The idea that anyone in Naruto could destroy Adamantium is completely and utterly ridiculous.As is the idea that Naruto would need to destroy Wolverine's skeleton to win this fight. Or the idea that Wolverine would have the slightest chance in hell against Naruto.

[Suzumebachi]

As is the idea that Naruto would need to destroy Wolverine's skeleton to win this fight. Or the idea that Wolverine would have the slightest chance in hell against Naruto.

Explain that.

[Renegade]

As is the idea that Naruto would need to destroy Wolverine's skeleton to win this fight.
How else could he win? :huh

[Gooba]

As is the idea that Naruto would need to destroy Wolverine's skeleton to win this fight. Or the idea that Wolverine would have the slightest chance in hell against Naruto.Destroying everything besides the skeleton doesn't win, it's been done and failed.