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Vegitto-kun
10-21-2006, 10:21 PM
Which should I get, the monthly paying in WOW is no problem XD so which is the better game

Level 70 Orc Ninja
10-21-2006, 11:22 PM
Personally, playing both GW and WoW, WoW is definitely superior. It just didn't have that fun factor that WoW has for some reason.

LordPerseus
10-21-2006, 11:24 PM
World of Warcraft by far.

Hoon ♥
10-21-2006, 11:49 PM
once you go WoW, its over - GG.
dont ruin your life vegitto-kun :arg

Vegitto-kun
10-21-2006, 11:57 PM
I enjoyed the guild wars trail, ended up playing 7 hours in one go, with a warrior/necromancer at level 14 D:

Haha after seeing the southpark episode i want to really try it

crazymtf
10-22-2006, 12:18 AM
WoW, i got both, wow is just funner.

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 12:34 AM
wow is addicting

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 12:38 AM
GW seems to be rather addicting too must be if i played it for 7+ hours XD

was quite fun hitting on poor level 1 monster with 3 level 20 people in your party XD

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 12:39 AM
Wow is just like 1 crazy big dota game isnt it?

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 12:43 AM
1 big dota game?

Level 70 Orc Ninja
10-22-2006, 01:00 AM
was quite fun hitting on poor level 1 monster with 3 level 20 people in your party XD

What's even more fun is to have a party of level 60s killing level 10 players and waiting for zergs to come and try kill you, just for them to realize you've escaped.

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 01:02 AM
What's even more fun is to have a party of level 60s killing level 10 players and waiting for zergs to come and try kill you, just for them to realize you've escaped.

You can kill players in GW and WoW? and wtf is a zerg?

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 01:24 AM
zerg? zerling? starcraft?!

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 01:26 AM
Starcraft? whazzat?

crazymtf
10-22-2006, 02:10 AM
Zerg is charging at people *I hate these stupid computer nerdy words*.
You can kill players in WoW if they choose to fight you or you can go on a "PVP" server and attack whenever you want.

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 02:14 AM
wtf is a PvP server

crazymtf
10-22-2006, 02:15 AM
Person Vs Person. You have a option to pick that or "PvE" which is Person vs Enviroment *AI* but can also face othere players but with permission unless you do matchs, which you get rank for.

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 02:20 AM
GW is best known for PvPing, i hear its really fun

Starcraft? whazzat?
hes never played STARCRAFT! :faint

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 02:29 AM
GW is best known for PvPing, i hear its really fun


hes never played STARCRAFT! :faint

Yup i never played starcraft,warcraft nor diablo


so generally PvP is the better thing to pick as you fight both the ai monsters AND the people online(with requests)

um can i use my character in guild wars currently in Pvp?

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 02:38 AM
yah, you use your characters in PvP
there are many modes in PvP (clanvsclan, etc)

and id like to say that warcraft is the greatest RTS game ever. :nod

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 02:45 AM
I never bothered playing it, i only played command and conguer

Mecha-Kisame
10-22-2006, 02:58 AM
I'm not sure if I'd recommend a PvP server to a new player.

Cruising through Stranglethorn at lvl 30 and getting ganked by a lvl 60 isn't very fun. Granted, I live for random encounters with other players, but the gankfests are tiresome. I just wish PvP meant I could attack players of my own faction. :(

If you like getting ganked or want to kill lowbies yourself, then go PvP. If you want left alone when you're trying to level then go PvE, you can always sate your thirst for PvP in a Battleground (faction VS faction minigames, like Capture the Flag) anyway.

For what it's worth, real mean go PvP.

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 03:03 AM
@vegitto: gank - a surprise attack :nod

Squire of Fate
10-22-2006, 03:04 AM
I'd choose GW > WoW, anyday. Guild Wars is really based on the whole concept of teamwork, there are hardly any quests that you can finish without the help of a party. Out of all the games I've played, Guild Wars probably has one of the best player communities out there.

I've played WoW for a while and it was just not my cup of tea, farmers and people selling items for real money sicken me.

Something I used to play form 9:00am - 4:00am is always good.

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 03:08 AM
I'm not sure if I'd recommend a PvP server to a new player.

Cruising through Stranglethorn at lvl 30 and getting ganked by a lvl 60 isn't very fun. Granted, I live for random encounters with other players, but the gankfests are tiresome. I just wish PvP meant I could attack players of my own faction. :(

If you like getting ganked or want to kill lowbies yourself, then go PvP. If you want left alone when you're trying to level then go PvE, you can always sate your thirst for PvP in a Battleground (faction VS faction minigames, like Capture the Flag) anyway.

For what it's worth, real mean go PvP.


so you can kill anybody on PvP? don't you need to request it first?

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 03:13 AM
i think its like an FFA

just a big map with heroes here and there :rotfl

Scorpio3.14
10-22-2006, 03:21 AM
If the money really dosnt bother you then go for WoW. However Guild Wars is still a very good game that is a great deal at the price :P You will enjoy both, but WoW over all the better game (which is to be expected if you are paying so much for it lol)

Personally I play Guild Wars as I gave up on WoW cuz I'm really cheap and poor XD Although I don't regret it as Guild Wars is also really fun :nod

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 03:25 AM
whats all your names on guild wars XD me be Vegitto kun

Mecha-Kisame
10-22-2006, 03:59 AM
WoW has two factions, Alliance and Horde.

On PvE, two players of the same faction can consent to a duel, which doesn't actually kill the loser, you just get a "You have defeated Soandso" message. When a player runs into someone who's of the opposing faction, one of them has to flag themselves for PvP for the other to engage. It's like flipping a Please-Kill-Me switch. After flagging you stay that way for ... five, ten, or fifteen minutes, I forget which, and you can be attacked by any player of the opposing faction. Once they attack they're flagged as well though, it's like a big chain reaction. If you go for the allotted time (5, 10, 15 *shrug*) without attacking another player you become unflagged, making you unattackable to them.

In PvP the dueling rule is still there, but there are Alliance and Horde-controlled territories. These are mostly the starting areas. When an Alliance player enters Horde Territory, he is flagged for PvP automatically, and vice-versa. Most of the areas are Contested Territories, meaning no faction controls them, and EVERY player is flagged for PvP upon entering. Keep in mind members of the same faction can't kill each other, they can only duel.

There aren't any level restrictions for PvP. Meaning if you're level 10 and in a contested area, a level 60 player can walk by, one-shot you into a grave, and then go on with no penalties (or rewards.) You won't lose experience or any items for dying though, so the only detriment to you is having to walk back to your corpse.

Kayo
10-22-2006, 06:08 AM
I had WoW but never liked it so I recommend GW. The guys in my class has gone completely insane playing WoW, they are talking about it all the time.

GW also get's a bit boring after a certain point if you haven't found a good guild (which I haven't)

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 06:31 AM
I randomly joined TDA XDD (the dutch alliance)

Chemistry
10-22-2006, 06:47 AM
GW is a really awsome game. It's just that you need to find a Guild later on, and you need to be very active, or it'll get boring, exactly as Kayo said.

Taffer
10-22-2006, 08:26 AM
Aye, ive got both, but i tend to play WoW more. I like the PvP feature, and the also the presence of RP on the RP servers. Good fun all round.

NeoDMC
10-22-2006, 12:22 PM
You can get both since one isn't subscription based...and then you'll see which one you like more.

I personally like WoW more because...well it is WoW (yeah the game is itself the answer to play it.)

GW, I played it for awhile, but it got really boring after awhile, and if you own WoW too, the community can get really annoying.

Now the warning about WoW...if I have to make a parrellel it would be that all other games are like pot, something fun to induldge in from time to time, with a few who actually get addicted to it (or think they do). World of Warcraft is like CRACK, you take it your hooked, I mean sure you find a few people who were able to get off of it, but baby that is by far the minority.

The people on here telling you they like GW better...well lets just say they are sprinkles compared to the ocean that is Warcraft. For ever person that told you to play WoW, consider those 100 votes each, everyone who is telling you to play GW...eh, 2 would probably equal 1/4 of a vote. (unless we are treating this like the Senate...but the Senate sux)

Now back on topic...I would get both, but the only Subscription based game I would get is WoW, and a lot of other people agree.

Chart:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/DMCNeo/Subscriptions_12473_image001.gif
(This is going on how much money the Game gets from people who are playing them, since a lot of games ask for the same amount, it is pretty much evident that more people pay to play WoW)

Cartman:
Butters, join the internet sensation that is World of Warcraft before we all kill you.

crazymtf
10-22-2006, 01:07 PM
WoW FF11 has a nice percentage, higher then i thought anyway.

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 02:07 PM
WOW @ the chart

GW belongs in the other 3.3% :S

WhiteCherryBlossom
10-22-2006, 05:43 PM
GW seems to be rather addicting too must be if i played it for 7+ hours XD

7 hours?! Try playing 40 hours straight just to get one piece of armor. Yeah, WoW is if I'm not mistaking, the most addicting game out there. In general of course, other people may disagree, but for the most part, I think it was stated the most addicting. To be honest, it ruined my life for about 3 months, until I quit, realizing I couldn't go on like that anymore.

Buy WoW if you want to have a years worth of entertainment before you get the slightest bit disinterested.

And yes I have played GW, WoW > GW.

The_4th Himself
10-22-2006, 06:02 PM
Here you go ...

This is what WoW does to you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2g


Have fun , Im glad I broke the addiction... :cry


I Looked at this video , makes you think , kids are really addicted!

Worth a Look , Im not telling you not to play it , just check it out.

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 06:17 PM
I wont get addicted liek that idiot XD

The_4th Himself
10-22-2006, 06:26 PM
I regret picking up this game honestly .

Vegitto-kun
10-22-2006, 06:27 PM
people who get addicted to games are mentally weak seriously, i don't see how you could ever get addicted something like warcraft

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 06:47 PM
its like smoking or alcohol i guess :/

Scorpio3.14
10-22-2006, 06:49 PM
WOW @ the chart

GW belongs in the other 3.3% :S

Read the text under the chart. That goes by the amount of money pulled in my the company from the game. GW dosnt have a monthly fee so its placement on the chart isn't accurate at all as to how many people play it.

Hoon ♥
10-22-2006, 07:01 PM
you mean it ISNT accurate :nod

Scorpio3.14
10-22-2006, 07:02 PM
you mean it ISNT accurate :nod

yes :doh *fixes*

The_4th Himself
10-22-2006, 07:06 PM
people who get addicted to games are mentally weak seriously, i don't see how you could ever get addicted something like warcraft

play the game at level 60

Axeman
10-22-2006, 07:07 PM
Both games are splendid, but I prefer GW myself. Much less grindfesty, and it's pvp is much better if you ask me.

Thandurin
10-22-2006, 07:20 PM
play the game at level 60
Because spending 5+ hours with 39 other people in one horribly repetitive dungeon on weekdays is awesome. :P

WhiteCherryBlossom
10-22-2006, 11:46 PM
people who get addicted to games are mentally weak seriously, i don't see how you could ever get addicted something like warcraft

Yeah you obvisoly have to play it first to say that. I think I'm strong-minded enough to actually break the addiction. That itsself is compareable to breaking a smoking addiction.

NeoDMC
10-23-2006, 01:06 AM
Both games are splendid, but I prefer GW myself. Much less grindfesty, and it's pvp is much better if you ask me.

...What were you doing Grinding in WoW?

That is like the slowest way to level...did you need gold for your mount or something?

Quest/Instance man! Go find Manricks wife or something. The game isn't like southpark, you aren't going to get up 30 levels by killing boars all day.

Vegitto-kun
10-23-2006, 02:11 AM
And after a certain level you don't even get exp from them XD

Stumpy
10-23-2006, 09:39 AM
*sigh*

Grinding can be a great way to level in World of Warcraft, but it's not quite as simple as it has been in previous MMOs. In WoW in order for your grind to be worth while you usually need to be a certain class and a certain build. For example, ginding on a Shadow Priest SUCKS. But Discipline Specced priests with some nice spirit gear can actually grind quite well. DPS classes (ie. hunters, rogues, and mages) seem to fair pretty well grinding moreso than the other classes, but still in order for it to be as good as questing then a good Talent build helps.

Grinding itself goes farther than just the XP grind in World of Warcraft. For those who reach level 60 it is only the tip of the iceberg. Once your level 60 you usually consider raiding whether it be 10, 20, or 40 man for gear and other bonuses. Aside from raiding which I personally detest, there is the PvP and the Faction grinds.

Grinding PvP can yield some nice Honor system related gear if you spend weeks and weeks of your life trying to reach High Warlord or Grand Marshal. Or if you can't manage to keep up with that you can still get some nice PvP Faction related gear from the Battlegrounds (Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, and Alterac Valley).

I currently am working on a twinked level 29 Rogue. Grinding BGs for reputation with WSG and AB. Basically everything you do in the game can be considered a grind in some way or another, but I love PvP so I accept this grind for what it is.

About GW: Personally, I really don't like this game. Why? The PvP. While the PvP is above many other MMOs in GW I just dont like the way they built the game for it. The main problem I have with it is the autofollowing garbage. I don't want to auto follow my enemies when I attack them and I definately dont want them to auto follow me. My kind of fights have lots of jumping running and whatnot. I need that freedom.

imo
WoW > GW
Much more to WoW to keep you playing for longer. And maybe you will get addicted, but isn't that why we play games? I play games to get drawn in and as long as I enjoy myself I could care less about addiction.

Feel free to ask me any questions about WoW or simply visit WoWWiki (http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page).

MechaTC
10-23-2006, 11:13 AM
I hated Guild Wars. It was so boring compared to WoW. buy WoW, it's great if you can keep the addiction under control.

i haven't played it in months because of school, but i really want to again D:

MuNaZ
10-23-2006, 12:06 PM
If you're stong minded i don't think you'll get addicted to wow. You'll need very hour to level to 60, and with The expansion coming.... When I noticed i was becoming a litle addicted to the game, I only had more 5 days to reach level 60, I decided some day not to play, i actually don't mind, After the expansion The Plaguelands should be empty for me:laugh

I tried the Pvp of GW sometime ago( they had some weekend to try it) and i didn't really like it. But I know nothing of GW.

WoW for me one of the best things ever made, The PVE is incredible really the best thing in game. I DO like the PVP a Lot first time i tried Battlegrounds, I went just to see what it was (Guild Mates were saying it was awsome) And i must say it was really great, i got a litle addicted at first.
The only problem with them it's if you're in a lammes team forget it...

Sasuke_Power
10-23-2006, 01:30 PM
World Of World Craft is definetly the superior in this matter. I love this game. You get to create your own character whos stats and items are saved online and new missions are brought to u courtesy of blizzard on a daily basis, graphics look good, and the game is constantly updated, thus leading to like a neverending good game experience

The_4th Himself
10-23-2006, 01:38 PM
MC- blows
ZG- Sucks
BWL sucks
AQ20/40 sucks
Naxx - Big money consumer on flasks etc

waste of time , waste of money.

PvP sucks so bad , Cross server BGs? I used to enjoy playing with friends against friends in the same server, but thats hardly possible anymore.
Wanted Rank 14? sure , give up life and grind 1million honor a week for 2months no stop.

BC in a nutshell , 2 new races .
A lazy attempt to fix both factions by giving them both Faction Only classes " Shammans and Paladins "
Level 70 , more grindfest
A stupid Honor system
25 Main raids , bye bye 40mans

^IMO

Plain stupid

Id stick to console gaming imo

Stumpy
10-23-2006, 06:23 PM
MC- blows
ZG- Sucks
BWL sucks
AQ20/40 sucks
Naxx - Big money consumer on flasks etc

waste of time , waste of money.

PvP sucks so bad , Cross server BGs? I used to enjoy playing with friends against friends in the same server, but thats hardly possible anymore.
Wanted Rank 14? sure , give up life and grind 1million honor a week for 2months no stop.

BC in a nutshell , 2 new races .
A lazy attempt to fix both factions by giving them both Faction Only classes " Shammans and Paladins "
Level 70 , more grindfest
A stupid Honor system
25 Main raids , bye bye 40mans

^IMO

Plain stupid

Id stick to console gaming imo

In short, you don't like World of Warcraft. So basically you contributed nothing to the thread by not even mentioning Guild Wars.

I personally don't like raiding, but there are probably millions out there who do still. Just say you don't like raiding instead of degrading yourself like that.

I honestly never thought I would hear complaints about Cross Realm BGs. This is probably one of the single greatest additions to the PvP system thus far, unless of course you didn't like BGs to begin with. Are you trying to put your selfish wants above the needs of millions of players to have more frequent BGs? Before XRBGs it was common for me to have queues lasting up to 7 hours at times. That hardly sounds like a casual wait time for the casual MMORPG that is World of Warcraft. Now if I want to BG I simply jump in the game and queue up and, if not instantly, I am in the battlegroud within minutes.

Tell your friends to get in the same BG instance as you or simply go world PvP against them.

The_4th Himself
10-23-2006, 08:15 PM
In short, you don't like World of Warcraft. So basically you contributed nothing to the thread by not even mentioning Guild Wars.

I personally don't like raiding, but there are probably millions out there who do still. Just say you don't like raiding instead of degrading yourself like that.

I honestly never thought I would hear complaints about Cross Realm BGs. This is probably one of the single greatest additions to the PvP system thus far, unless of course you didn't like BGs to begin with. Are you trying to put your selfish wants above the needs of millions of players to have more frequent BGs? Before XRBGs it was common for me to have queues lasting up to 7 hours at times. That hardly sounds like a casual wait time for the casual MMORPG that is World of Warcraft. Now if I want to BG I simply jump in the game and queue up and, if not instantly, I am in the battlegroud within minutes.

Tell your friends to get in the same BG instance as you or simply go world PvP against them.


Judging by your posts , Im guessing you've never stepped into BWL/AQ40 probably not even MC. That's ok , your a casual still clearing Stratholme UBRS etc. Thats cool.
Casual MMORPG? Who are you kidding? Im not gonna even get into that topic.

No , XBG's ruined everything for my old guild, we couldnt play against our rival guilds on alliance side ( I was horde). We had INSTANT queue times but guess what? We werent having fun rolling newb pugs and Not to mention WSG exploiting assholes.
That did it for me.

Blizzard barely fixed our server from prime time lag ( Shattered Hand) with " new " hardware.

It was fun during the launch era , since I moved with my old clan from WC3 TFT . After that , it was just a stupid cycle same raiding every night blah blah blah . One day I just quit, realizing how stupid the game really was. I wasnt having fun anymore , EPIX Lewtz!!! wasnt making me a better person in life. I broke the addiction

I Beat world of warcraft
:laugh


anyways , Ive heard GW had a better Pvp system
Hows that for discussion? :P

NeoDMC
10-23-2006, 10:48 PM
Judging by your posts , Im guessing you've never stepped into BWL/AQ40 probably not even MC. That's ok , your a casual still clearing Stratholme UBRS etc. Thats cool.
Casual MMORPG? Who are you kidding? Im not gonna even get into that topic.

No , XBG's ruined everything for my old guild, we couldnt play against our rival guilds on alliance side ( I was horde). We had INSTANT queue times but guess what? We werent having fun rolling newb pugs and Not to mention WSG exploiting assholes.
That did it for me.

Blizzard barely fixed our server from prime time lag ( Shattered Hand) with " new " hardware.

It was fun during the launch era , since I moved with my old clan from WC3 TFT . After that , it was just a stupid cycle same raiding every night blah blah blah . One day I just quit, realizing how stupid the game really was. I wasnt having fun anymore , EPIX Lewtz!!! wasnt making me a better person in life. I broke the addiction

I Beat world of warcraft
:laugh


anyways , Ive heard GW had a better Pvp system
Hows that for discussion? :P

Go get guild rejected nub.

You ain't eva been on a successful raid in yo life and you ain't evar sen the phat lootz tha ive seen

u a Ne Hunter aint ya! can't get in no guild boy! probably bm speced too. LAWL what a nub

evey1!!!! loo at teh nub!!!!!

LOL CHICKEN LAWL OMGWTF CLUCK CLUCK CHICKEN LAWLS!!111!1!111!1!!!!!!!!11!!

Stumpy
10-23-2006, 11:13 PM
Judging by your posts , Im guessing you've never stepped into BWL/AQ40 probably not even MC. That's ok , your a casual still clearing Stratholme UBRS etc. Thats cool.
Casual MMORPG? Who are you kidding? Im not gonna even get into that topic.

No , XBG's ruined everything for my old guild, we couldnt play against our rival guilds on alliance side ( I was horde). We had INSTANT queue times but guess what? We werent having fun rolling newb pugs and Not to mention WSG exploiting assholes.
That did it for me.

Blizzard barely fixed our server from prime time lag ( Shattered Hand) with " new " hardware.

It was fun during the launch era , since I moved with my old clan from WC3 TFT . After that , it was just a stupid cycle same raiding every night blah blah blah . One day I just quit, realizing how stupid the game really was. I wasnt having fun anymore , EPIX Lewtz!!! wasnt making me a better person in life. I broke the addiction

I Beat world of warcraft
:laugh


anyways , Ive heard GW had a better Pvp system
Hows that for discussion? :P
No, let's go there. WoW is a casual MMO. Disprove me please.

I'm sorry I didn't realize Blizzard was supposed to fix BGs so you can play with the exact people you want whenever you want. Even though there was thousands/miillions of players with horrible queue times requesting this XRBG system. But clearly you and your guild are more important than the rest of us players.

Your complainging about the Raid Grind? I already suggested that maybe you don't like raiding. I personally can't stand it either, but don't try to put the game down for it.

_Amaterasu_
10-23-2006, 11:16 PM
Go get guild rejected nub.

You ain't eva been on a successful raid in yo life and you ain't evar sen the phat lootz tha ive seen

u a Ne Hunter aint ya! can't get in no guild boy! probably bm speced too. LAWL what a nub

evey1!!!! loo at teh nub!!!!!

LOL CHICKEN LAWL OMGWTF CLUCK CLUCK CHICKEN LAWLS!!111!1!111!1!!!!!!!!11!!
umm... yeah.

Welll anywayz, I think you would get more enjoyment out of WoW 10-fold. I played GW first, coming out of CoH, and it attracted me because of its free monthly rental. Now dont forget this was only my 2nd MMO, but I really, really, really didnt enjoy GW.

After that, i went back to CoH, then to the great glory known as WoW. Now, like alot of people, I went to WoW because thats were ALL of my friends that played CoH were going to. So I decided to hop on.

WoW is more like a real "world" because you trade in between your peers and have your own community. Its like the people are creating a economy that is solely dependent on them. Its just one BIG open world that doesnt have many load times if you are exploring the 2 continents, but there are load times if you are going into instances, battlegrounds, trains etc. Like for example, to get to one place from another, you can take a boat or fly a gryphon and get to see your surrounding on your way from place to place.


Guild Wars is more fast-paced. If I remember correctly, you dont travel between spots, but instead just "click" it on your map. Now you can travel between spots, but it woulod have to be on foot...


Yeah I know, its not exactly un-biased, but there ya go. Take it as you may.

Vegitto-kun
10-25-2006, 01:51 PM
people


http://fapomatic.com/0643/sociallife.jpg


:cry

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 02:24 PM
I...I can't read the words. Is that Gore or Gave at the end?

Vegitto-kun
10-25-2006, 03:28 PM
Social
life
=
gone

does anybody have a direct link for the update? I mean blizzard is so rich thanks to WoW and they still cant give us quick downloads for the patches? =/

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 03:40 PM
LOL...yeah Blizzard Uploader does suck. Really anything would be faster, I use Fileplanet, they have all the patches. It should be even faster now since there isn't any new patch.

Kimimaro
10-25-2006, 03:43 PM
Well, I would recommend WoW, unless you're unwilling to play. I got bored of playing WoW quite early because I couldn't be bothered to pay official servers and went to the private ones. It really sucks playing alone. I played Guild Wars for around 800 hours. But after, that, I got too annoyed of it and never played it again. (I only played Prophecies, heard the Factions sucked).

little nin
10-25-2006, 03:44 PM
yeah so wow i guess, not played GW...WoW is dangerous for your social life i must say...

but its fun i guess...

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 03:48 PM
Silent you two! He has already chosen, and there is no turning back...from the dark side.

Vegitto-kun
10-25-2006, 04:15 PM
Please give me quick link for the update since file planet is the crappiest thing in this wored

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 05:05 PM
I think you fail to realize how popular WoW is...just type in "World of Warcraft Patch" into google and you'll get a whole gallery to choose from.

Vegitto-kun
10-25-2006, 05:13 PM
installed the patch


omg mpeople im going in =O (starts up the game)

(comes back)


ANOTHER PATCH >_<

MuNaZ
10-25-2006, 05:16 PM
a lot of "patches" but they are worth it:wink

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 05:16 PM
...Depending on which version you got of the game, you could have to download all the way to 1.12

Vegitto-kun
10-25-2006, 05:18 PM
I had 1.12 but then i t asked me to go to 1.12.1

but i got it now


BYE BYE ME GO NOW


i hope il like it =D

or should i hope for me not to like it

XD

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 05:20 PM
Don't be a pussy...roll PvP

Vegitto-kun
10-25-2006, 07:21 PM
Just played it for 2 and abit hours, too bad i have to go to bed XD


I love this game <333 me be human warrior level 6

only thing I dislike is that its sometimes hard to find your objective, in guild was you get a new place marked on the map

Stumpy
10-25-2006, 09:13 PM
Nooo!!

Don't roll Alliance! That's almost as bad as playing Guild Wars. Q_Q

And yes PvP server or gtfo.

Having trouble with quests from time to time? www.thottbot.com Just type in the quest name and you will see all the quest info and if you check out the user comments on the bottom they usually help out a lot. You will definately be bookmarking that site. Though most of the time your quest log will indeed tell you everything you need to know.

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 09:18 PM
Having trouble with quests from time to time? www.thottbot.com Just type in the quest name and you will see all the quest info and if you check out the user comments on the bottom they usually help out a lot. You will definately be bookmarking that site. Though most of the time your quest log will indeed tell you everything you need to know.

Gah..I had to do that with my Aqua Form Quest...some of the quest givers give ZERO information on where the hell to go, or what the hell you are actually doing.

Stumpy
10-25-2006, 09:28 PM
Gah..I had to do that with my Aqua Form Quest...some of the quest givers give ZERO information on where the hell to go, or what the hell you are actually doing.
Yeah there are some quests that do that for the usual intention of making you dig for it a bit. In your case you were supposed to talk to the townsfolk in Moonglade and find the locations amongst them, but I did the same quest at one point and that's definitely a Thottbot time.

Takumi Matsuki
10-25-2006, 10:20 PM
One word; World of Warcraft.

NeoDMC
10-25-2006, 11:19 PM
So where did you role Vegitto? I still got a few alts that I can get up and running. Although if you went on PvP chances are I have a Horde character on it that I won't want to delete to make ally.

Only ally I got is a 60 NE Druid on an RP realm (don't ask...weird friends)

My main is my 60 Orc Warlock (5 peices of Nemesis baby!) and a 53 Orc Shaman(guild needed a healer, but after playing a druid, guess what I hated? Not to mention it fell apart while the Shammy was in it's 30's...but I started to like him but he was really a PvP thing after awhile...) on Firetree.

Firetree's raid scene was pretty lame when I got on, only a Handful in BWL, of course I haven't played since before AQ opened so I am pretty far behind... Since TBC isn't coming out until January I don't know if I should start now, and get my at least the rest of my Tier 2, or just wait for the expansion (I plan to roll a Draeani Shaman anyways).

What do you think Stump? Do you think I will have enough time to get into a good guild, and get some decent DKP to buy my set before the Expan comes out?

Also I got:
47 Tauren Shaman Twisting Nether
39 Undead Priest on Mediev
33 Troll Mage on Frostmane

if you are on any of those Vegitto. (give me your name so I can gank you for being ally)

Duy Nguyen
10-26-2006, 12:19 AM
One word; World of Warcraft.

LOL, quoted for truth.

Vegitto-kun
10-26-2006, 02:14 AM
So where did you role Vegitto? I still got a few alts that I can get up and running. Although if you went on PvP chances are I have a Horde character on it that I won't want to delete to make ally.

Only ally I got is a 60 NE Druid on an RP realm (don't ask...weird friends)

My main is my 60 Orc Warlock (5 peices of Nemesis baby!) and a 53 Orc Shaman(guild needed a healer, but after playing a druid, guess what I hated? Not to mention it fell apart while the Shammy was in it's 30's...but I started to like him but he was really a PvP thing after awhile...) on Firetree.

Firetree's raid scene was pretty lame when I got on, only a Handful in BWL, of course I haven't played since before AQ opened so I am pretty far behind... Since TBC isn't coming out until January I don't know if I should start now, and get my at least the rest of my Tier 2, or just wait for the expansion (I plan to roll a Draeani Shaman anyways).

What do you think Stump? Do you think I will have enough time to get into a good guild, and get some decent DKP to buy my set before the Expan comes out?

Also I got:
47 Tauren Shaman Twisting Nether
39 Undead Priest on Mediev
33 Troll Mage on Frostmane

if you are on any of those Vegitto. (give me your name so I can gank you for being ally)

im some realm with a A in the beginning of the name :oh I got send there automaticly :oh

School now then when I get home waste my time on WoW


I am happy that people cant steal your exp by stealing your kill (had a level 16 nightelf stalking him killing all monsters he fought)

Duy Nguyen
10-26-2006, 02:29 AM
Boooooooo Burning Crusade ain't coming out till January. The only person who is happy about this news is my girlfriend...:cry

Whoever is planning to reroll when BC comes out, keep in touch with me. My cousin, friends, and I are going to reroll together and probably going to run a guild ourselves, so if interested keep that in mind when BC comes out in January.

Also Vegitto, what class, race, and spec?

Stumpy
10-26-2006, 08:44 AM
What do you think Stump? Do you think I will have enough time to get into a good guild, and get some decent DKP to buy my set before the Expan comes out?

It pretty much depends on the server and the people on it, but if I have time to get my mage to 60 then you would probably have time to get some good raid time in.

Server Bloodscalp:
60 Undead Priest
29 Troll Rogue
13 Undead Mage (getting to 60 before BC comes out)

From my experience thus far the battlegroup for Bloodscalp (recently dubbed "Cyclone") is pretty good at all level brackets, so I think I wanna stick with it. Can't fucking wait for the team arenas in the expansion.

2v2 PvP Arena
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=30136

Caverns of Time
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=30057

Two vids that I recommend about the expansion by some beta testers.

Well Vegitto you don't have to go to the server it recommended to you first if you don't want to. Chances are that it is a Medium/Low Population server.

Duy, he said he was a Human Warrior and chances are that he doesnt really have much of a spec yet lol.

Going to go lvl my mage now. Name "Magepls" if anyone happens to want to join on Bloodscalp.

ctizz36
10-26-2006, 11:14 AM
World of Warcraft is a lot better than Guild Wars

NeoDMC
10-26-2006, 12:34 PM
It pretty much depends on the server and the people on it, but if I have time to get my mage to 60 then you would probably have time to get some good raid time in.

Server Bloodscalp:
60 Undead Priest
29 Troll Rogue
13 Undead Mage (getting to 60 before BC comes out)

From my experience thus far the battlegroup for Bloodscalp (recently dubbed "Cyclone") is pretty good at all level brackets, so I think I wanna stick with it. Can't fucking wait for the team arenas in the expansion.

2v2 PvP Arena
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=30136

Caverns of Time
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=30057

Two vids that I recommend about the expansion by some beta testers.

Well Vegitto you don't have to go to the server it recommended to you first if you don't want to. Chances are that it is a Medium/Low Population server.

Duy, he said he was a Human Warrior and chances are that he doesnt really have much of a spec yet lol.

Going to go lvl my mage now. Name "Magepls" if anyone happens to want to join on Bloodscalp.

PvP hopefully better be reborn once again when the expansion comes.

I heard that world PvP stuff they added was assinine (My friend said him and his Naxx group got bored waiting one time and just took the all the nodes.)

When I was on Firetree some asshat took High Warlord but wouldn't let anyone else get it, it was such BS because the guild he was in helped him get to it, and once he ranked up he just /gquit and refuses to let go. (Undead Rogue too, I'm sure he hasn't gotten a group in awhile).

I decided not to start up again until expansion. My friend reminded me of all the guild bullshit I would have to put up with. People lying saying they got MC down, and can barely get past the first boss. Some on the verge of breaking up anyways. It really sux, and I hate the application process to get into established guilds, especially since I'm a Warlock (I should have rolled a Priest :cry ). Besides I don't want to risk the chance of being burnt out on WoW when the Expansion comes, since I'm really looking forward to making a new main.

Vegitto-kun
10-26-2006, 01:54 PM
Boooooooo Burning Crusade ain't coming out till January. The only person who is happy about this news is my girlfriend...:cry

Whoever is planning to reroll when BC comes out, keep in touch with me. My cousin, friends, and I are going to reroll together and probably going to run a guild ourselves, so if interested keep that in mind when BC comes out in January.

Also Vegitto, what class, race, and spec?

Liek


human

warrior

wtf is a spec

XD

mi name be Vegittokun <3

(goes to play)


by the way

realm is alonsus

The_4th Himself
10-26-2006, 02:09 PM
Warrior heh

spec= Your specialization in talents which you get at level 10

I suggest you go Fury/Arms


dont go protection...

Duy Nguyen
10-26-2006, 02:17 PM
^A spec is the talent build in which you go for. For warriors it's either you MS (Mortal Strike) Build, Fury Build (Not reccomended if you have shitty gear), and Protection Build.

I had a warrior once, I got him to like 55 and my account ended so here I am now waiting for BC to come out. I would've renewed my account, but Warriors are soooo damn boring. Leveling as a warrior was horrible and slow. They also have crappy soloing skills, so that sucked. The only thing well worth leveling a Warrior is getting him/her good gear and just tear shit up in PvP. Plus having someone heal you in BG is really nice, never got that kind of love as Rogue, lol.

My tip to you Vegitto is try to make a lot of loyal and helpful friends, because once you're level 30 I'm sure you're dying for help to get your Whirlwind weapons. You'll know what I mean.

Vegitto-kun
10-26-2006, 04:29 PM
^A spec is the talent build in which you go for. For warriors it's either you MS (Mortal Strike) Build, Fury Build (Not reccomended if you have shitty gear), and Protection Build.

I had a warrior once, I got him to like 55 and my account ended so here I am now waiting for BC to come out. I would've renewed my account, but Warriors are soooo damn boring. Leveling as a warrior was horrible and slow. They also have crappy soloing skills, so that sucked. The only thing well worth leveling a Warrior is getting him/her good gear and just tear shit up in PvP. Plus having someone heal you in BG is really nice, never got that kind of love as Rogue, lol.

My tip to you Vegitto is try to make a lot of loyal and helpful friends, because once you're level 30 I'm sure you're dying for help to get your Whirlwind weapons. You'll know what I mean.

im nowhere near level 30 XD im only level 8 currently and currently stuck , I cant find some guards that went missing

NeoDMC
10-26-2006, 04:37 PM
Ur human right?...I think they will be north of the enterance to Red Ridge...around those stone columns (I don't know...)

You won't get talent points for a few more levels anyways so don't worry about it.

Vegitto-kun
10-26-2006, 05:13 PM
Ur human right?...I think they will be north of the enterance to Red Ridge...around those stone columns (I don't know...)

You won't get talent points for a few more levels anyways so don't worry about it.

Well i found a dead dwarf but nothing happened =/ i went pas heroes vilge or something and all the way north where some sea things killed me


I joined a guild by the way

The_4th Himself
10-26-2006, 06:04 PM
lol , the 2 dead guards!
go north from where you got the quest , its on the shore " its a red corpse"
the 2nd one is in the murloc camp " annoying gurgling fish"

http://www.thottbot.com

for your noobieness needs! search quests etc

Stumpy
10-26-2006, 06:28 PM
Yes, like I said Thottbot will help you out so ridiculously much in your noobie days and even after.

A thing about Warriors you might want to know that they are the most common class on your server and overall in WoW.

No wonder I didn't recognize your server name. Your playing on the European servers ;3

And about the fairly new World PvP stuff. I know for sure that the Eastern Plaguelands stuff is completely useless. Me and my group of 3 or 4 people can easily just split up and take all four towers if we want to. As long as BGs exist as they do I really doubt we will see a return to the World PvP.

Vegitto-kun
10-26-2006, 06:36 PM
Haha, i wish i could play in non european realms XD

And haha wtf

I was at the inn before I logged of and for some reason some naked female nightelf's and a naked human were dancing ontop of a giant pumpkin while a other naked nightelf and human were reinacting blow jobs

brilliant

i lost my lsocial life now

Taffer
10-26-2006, 06:57 PM
Oh yes, and if your looking to cyber, you'll find plenty of people doing it in the hills around Goldshire.

95% will be Night Elf females.

NeoDMC
10-26-2006, 07:30 PM
And 94.9% of those will be Male in RL

itachi7
10-26-2006, 07:35 PM
war craft is better then guiled wars guiled wars is kinda fun

MikoWolf
10-26-2006, 07:35 PM
btw, thottbot is supposedly run by goldfarmers so i would recommend to use opera or firefox so that your computer doesnt get any virus/spyware whom could log your account name and password.

the same goes for alhakazam or what ever it goes by =P

Stumpy
10-26-2006, 07:38 PM
Haha, i wish i could play in non european realms XD

And haha wtf

I was at the inn before I logged of and for some reason some naked female nightelf's and a naked human were dancing ontop of a giant pumpkin while a other naked nightelf and human were reinacting blow jobs

brilliant

i lost my lsocial life now

Yeah seriously, I fucking hate Alliance. Just a bunch of guys irl wanting to be kawaii chicks on the internet.

* don't take this wrong anyone just venting some unending anger for the allies *

NeoDMC
10-26-2006, 08:05 PM
btw, thottbot is supposedly run by goldfarmers so i would recommend to use opera or firefox so that your computer doesnt get any virus/spyware whom could log your account name and password.

the same goes for alhakazam or what ever it goes by =P

I doubt such a widely used site would be a keylogger...Thotbot has a lot of other sections besides WoW..someone would figure it out.

Taffer
10-26-2006, 09:36 PM
And 94.9% of those will be Male in RL

Heh...forgot to add that.

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 02:10 AM
Yeah seriously, I fucking hate Alliance. Just a bunch of guys irl wanting to be kawaii chicks on the internet.

* don't take this wrong anyone just venting some unending anger for the allies *

Alliance looks better then the horde, if any of the horde looked normal I would of picked them XD


I feel like I should of picked paladin :oh I mean they atleast have close combat AND spells :oh

Muclocs(or something like that) are fucking bitches :oh They kept on raping me :oh

NeoDMC
10-27-2006, 02:30 AM
Paladin's seem versatile on paper, but in reality most end up just using melee attacks after buffing. Which is all they can pretty much do well, buff. You would not be happy if you are looking to do damage.

A warrior has the tools and the capabilities to do damage and survive the attacks, food and drinks will become less of a bother to gather as you move along the levels. The only downside of the Warrior being you will be very gear dependent. Luckily besides a few asshats you will be first in line for gear most of the time, because you will be valuble as a tank (and when the tanks die, the raid is over anyways).

Don't go Paladin, you will become one of those bastards in denial who whine about Paladins but go on about how great they are when the first sign of "well yeah Pallys do suck" comes on the scene.

DIE PALLYS!!!!!! I AM SO PISSED THEY WILL BE ON THE HORDE...I HAVE ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH SOME UNDEAD ROGUE TRYING TO TELL ME HIS CLASS IS NERFED, I DON'T NEED SOME GAY ELF TELLING ME HE CAN DPS WHEN HE CAN'T!!!! :yell :yell :yell

whew...thanks for letting me get that out of my system guys :amuse

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 05:49 AM
And what is DPS ? XD

i found it funny im randomly running past goldshire then suddenly there are guys going "OMG RAID ON SW OMG "

and then some guys going "FOR THE HORDE"

then i saw a bunch of people run past me @_@

I also made friends with a female human priest when we joined in a group to go look for those 2 guards

its true, priests are so fucking essential XD

yodadbl07
10-27-2006, 07:07 AM
Gotta Go with the FREEE Guild Wars!

Guild Wars > WOW

Lancelot
10-27-2006, 07:32 AM
WoW > all :)

Stumpy
10-27-2006, 08:34 AM
And what is DPS ? XD

i found it funny im randomly running past goldshire then suddenly there are guys going "OMG RAID ON SW OMG "

and then some guys going "FOR THE HORDE"

then i saw a bunch of people run past me @_@

I also made friends with a female human priest when we joined in a group to go look for those 2 guards

its true, priests are so fucking essential XD

DPS means Damage Per Second. The DPS featured on weapons basially averages the damage you will do based on your weapons attack and attack speed. Generally DPS is all that matters. but there can be exceptions. As a Warrior I would say go for DPS over Attack.

Right now you see priests as "essential" but I bet later on your going to be crying about them owning you in PvP. :nod And just fyi, Druids can also be main healers in groups if they aren't retarded and trying to tank in bear form.

For the Horde!

Anthony J. Crowley
10-27-2006, 08:40 AM
Orc Rogues FTFW!

NeoDMC
10-27-2006, 12:34 PM
DPS means Damage Per Second. The DPS featured on weapons basially averages the damage you will do based on your weapons attack and attack speed. Generally DPS is all that matters. but there can be exceptions. As a Warrior I would say go for DPS over Attack.

Right now you see priests as "essential" but I bet later on your going to be crying about them owning you in PvP. :nod And just fyi, Druids can also be main healers in groups if they aren't retarded and trying to tank in bear form.

For the Horde!

I try to tank in bear form :wtf

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 01:25 PM
I try to tank in bear form :wtf

You very evil person :P


Oh well me is off to play XD i wonder what level il be when I quit

Duy Nguyen
10-27-2006, 02:53 PM
^My best was leveling my UD Rogue to 60 in less than a month with no guides. I got to level 26 in one day, that's too easy. I had some friends help me run instances right when I'm at level though to get Sword of Omen -> Vanquisher -> Thrash Blade. Other than that I soloed everything myself, I even did almost all of the Elite quests alone. Stealth, Vanish, Sap, Blind, Blade Flurry, and Adrenaline Rush kicked ass while soloing hard quests.

Here's a site for you when you hit 30.
http://www.wow-pro.com/Knowledge_Base/cat=135.html
On the left go to Guides and you can figure yourself out there.

The_4th Himself
10-27-2006, 04:53 PM
^My best was leveling my UD Rogue to 60 in less than a month with no guides. I got to level 26 in one day, that's too easy. I had some friends help me run instances right when I'm at level though to get Sword of Omen -> Vanquisher -> Thrash Blade. Other than that I soloed everything myself, I even did almost all of the Elite quests alone. Stealth, Vanish, Sap, Blind, Blade Flurry, and Adrenaline Rush kicked ass while soloing hard quests.

Here's a site for you when you hit 30.
http://www.wow-pro.com/Knowledge_Base/cat=135.html
On the left go to Guides and you can figure yourself out there.

....
thats pretty impossible...


unless you had all your friends do elite quests for you

Even farmers only hit level 18-19 in one day.

Thandurin
10-27-2006, 04:54 PM
Orc Rogues FTFW!
Dwarf rogues are clearly superior. Fat hairy midget ninjas gogogo!

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 04:56 PM
....
thats pretty impossible...


unless you had all your friends do elite quests for you

Even farmers only hit level 18-19 in one day.

farmers wha


don't use your hard words against a n00b (boots up game)

NeoDMC
10-27-2006, 05:00 PM
Farming is someone who spends there entire time playing hunting after a single type of item

Be it gold, herbs, ore, leather, or some specific item that drops of certain mobs, like the satyr in Felwood that drop Felcloth.

The_4th Himself
10-27-2006, 05:05 PM
farmers wha


don't use your hard words against a n00b (boots up game)


oops :P yep ^ like he said

everyone considers a farmer a " asian farmer " , they are famous for farming items 24/7 and putting them on the AH( Auction Houses) in which they make gold..for the job they are playing ( WoW)

Anyways heres a tip for you , never group with a farmer
why? because they'll ninja!!!!!
how will you know if he/she is a farmer?: Doesnt speak English

ninja= take all your phat lewtz( loots!)

NeoDMC
10-27-2006, 05:34 PM
oops :P yep ^ like he said

everyone considers a farmer a " asian farmer " , they are famous for farming items 24/7 and putting them on the AH( Auction Houses) in which they make gold..for the job they are playing ( WoW)

Anyways heres a tip for you , never group with a farmer
why? because they'll ninja!!!!!
how will you know if he/she is a farmer?: Doesnt speak English

ninja= take all your phat lewtz( loots!)

Actually it is fairly easy to ninja from a farmer as well...thats how I got my Druid 2 shadowcraft items at Strat.

Now this was back when Tier 0 was the shit, so we did both Live and Dead side.

Druid (Me)
Rogue (Him)
Warrior (Leader)
Pally
Pally
Hunter
Hunter
Mage
Warlock
Priest

It was funny because we kept asking him to say something. The first time he said nothing, so I took it and he said "NO" and that was it...we laughed (the rest of the party) and moved on. We came up to the Canon master, kill him, and he drops the mantle. He says his second word for the raid "YES" and we laugh again. The ML says "Yes what?" and we thought he might say something, but he didn't, after awhile one of the hunters said "I think he meant "YES" he already has it". So being the only other one in the raid that relied on Leather...I got new shoulders.

After Live-side we went to Dead for the Baron. By this time a lot of people were pissed with him. He didn't CC (although it wasn't needed in UD Strat) He wouldn't even stealth, he would just run up and hack...I think I only saw him do a few moves, not one finishing move.

We get to the Baron, beat his ass. And guess what drop? SC pants. Everyone was pissed because it was like a 1 in 100 chance on the server, (Beaststalker being the highest drop rate). So he says "YES" over and over. And everyone was like...well screw him. So I get my pants too.

Good day...funny thing is after that WH kilt and spaulders would never drop for me.

I saw him again skinning panthers in deep STV (the panther skin that is rare)...so yeah Farmer.

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 08:52 PM
YES

XDDD


I got up to level 11 tonight

done some quests, got a cutlass, some nice armot and shield

Its a day and night difference with being level 9

Thandurin
10-27-2006, 09:16 PM
YES

XDDD


I got up to level 11 tonight

done some quests, got a cutlass, some nice armot and shield

Its a day and night difference with being level 9
Not really, but you do get talents now which is awesome.

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 09:20 PM
Currently i used my 2 talents in my skill that makes the opponent bleed <33

next should be on my current strongest skill (decrease the rage that it uses)

Thandurin
10-27-2006, 09:23 PM
Currently i used my 2 talents in my skill that makes the opponent bleed <33

next should be on my current strongest skill (decrease the rage that it uses)
Yeah, for leveling i'd get imp heroic strike for now then tactical mastery and keep going down the talents you have access to after you max out imp rend when you reach that point.

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 09:25 PM
Than, i hate your quote in your signature D:

if level 60 is the cap why are there level 62 NPC's? I mean why are there NPC's in the first place, its not like they fight O_o

Thandurin
10-27-2006, 09:35 PM
Than, i hate your quote in your signature D:

if level 60 is the cap why are there level 62 NPC's? I mean why are there NPC's in the first place, its not like they fight O_o
Lvl 62s are generally ment to be fought by multiple people. There are lots of 60+ mobs currently in game in the higher level instances like Upper Blackrock Spire. And do not doubt the words of NeoDMC, he is wise beyond his years and knows all.

Vegitto-kun
10-27-2006, 09:38 PM
Lvl 62s are generally ment to be fought by multiple people. There are lots of 60+ mobs currently in game in the higher level instances like Upper Blackrock Spire. And do not doubt the words of NeoDMC, he is wise beyond his years and knows all.

NeoDMC sucks =(

i respected him but now I find out he is nothing but a raging sony fanboy :cry

NeoDMC
10-27-2006, 11:13 PM
NeoDMC sucks =(

i respected him but now I find out he is nothing but a raging sony fanboy :cry

<peeing on a Gamecube>

Huh? Someone say my name?

Anywas 60+ creatures are just creatures 2 levels above. Unless you go to a raid where is says the dragon is like 200+ level, then you can probably take the level 61-62. It would be like taking something 2 levels ahead of you (which you should know that you can if you don't screw up).

Now 60+ Elites?...naw you better just run away. A lot of endgame raids are filled with 60+ Elites.

Only place I know where there is an abundance of none elite 60+ is the Blasted Lands, around the Dark Portal, and the Withering Scar in Winterspring.

Luckily you didn't roll horde actually (I mean not lucky, lucky, but lucky in a way). Since you won't have to deal with Elites really. Horde in Silverpine Forest have to deal with level 20+ Elites (Sons of Argul<sp>). It wouldn't be so bad if there weren't multiple Sons. You won't have to deal with a high level roaming elite, until you get to Duskwood, and even then it is not like you have to seriously deal with him. I spent my 20-30 in Ashenvale when I was an ally, if you aren't on a PvP server it is hella easy...although I remember ganking many a newbs when I was an Orc. Fucking Night Elves.

Wetlands are good, although it is very big, and a lot of areas are high with mobs (raptor areas). Also if you go too far east you end up in an area that is too high.

Right now you should stick with Westfall and Loch Modan if you have wanderlust. Darkshore is really such a crappy zone I wouldn't recommend leveling there, although when you reach 20 you should head to Ashenvale, as the first "real" instance will be open with Black Fathom Deep.

Deadmines are a little too hard for the area it is in, I couldn't complete it till my late 20's and early 30's. Stockades you will probably finish up your first time through so it is worthless, and doesn't really show you how instances work since it is so linear.

Things you should have done by now/should do later

1) Go to Ironforge
2) Explore Dun Morogh to get the exploration exp
3) Begin coordinating quests between Westfal and Loch Modan to double your leveling speed, also to get a feel for the area (You will need it for an Instance in you late 30's)
4) Browse the auction house for upgrades mid-teens as an abundance of green items become available after 15. (AH is your greatest friend)
4) At level 20, head down to the Wetlands and discover Menthil Harbor, take the boat to Kalimdor. (while facing the dock you will want to take the boat on the right, as the boat on the left takes you to Dustwallow Marsh which is late 30's).

Vegitto-kun
10-28-2006, 12:24 AM
Well im only level 12 so yeah XD, currently im running around on the westland, fucking level twenty foe 3000(or something) running around

had a fun time running around with 4 females owning shit

I need to collect stuff for a quest, still need murloc eye and something called okra or something

wtf i need to get goretrunk liver but i killed like 50 of them and i still havent found that shit

Stumpy
10-28-2006, 12:46 AM
SAVE

YOUR

MONEY

Be very careful with your money. Try your best to save about 100 gold by the time you reach 40. Level 40 is when you are able to get your first mount which isn't exactly cheap. While you may think level 40 is pretty far away, but really it isn't. You'll thank me later (:

Kduff
10-28-2006, 02:17 AM
Started WoW two Fridays ago today. I'm level 25 now.

I'm a Human Warrior, and I've done most everything in Menethil Harbor, Westfall, Darkshore, and Ahenvale.

I'm kind of stuck on where I can go to level some more. Everywhere I seem to go has either too easy (green to black) quests, or too hard ones that either I can't access at all, or they're red.

Any advice?

Also, save my money for a mount? You mean I won't be making enough on quests in my late 30's to afford one easily? That's crazy. But honestly, I believe it.

Also, people on the PvP servers are fucking whiny bitches.
Typical PvP Match:
Them: "Ooooh, you're not level 19, 29, 39... etc., why are you on MY server, we're going to lose. Get off NEWB"

Me - "You're a fucking loser. I'm here to do something different. Go jerk off and take a nap, you'll be less bitchy."

Stumpy
10-28-2006, 02:24 AM
Also, people on the PvP servers are fucking whiny bitches.
Typical PvP Match:
Them: "Ooooh, you're not level 19, 29, 39... etc., why are you on MY server, we're going to lose. Get off NEWB"

Me - "You're a fucking loser. I'm here to do something different. Go jerk off and take a nap, you'll be less bitchy."
A level 25 I generally don't say anything , but definitely anything lower I will straight up tell them the shouldn't be BGing at that level. Why? Becuase it really can just ruin the entire game when a low level play wants to "do something different" and get owned in the battlegrounds basically no matter how hard he tries. It is in no way hard to level up in World of Warcraft so please just get a decent level before BGing.

Kduff
10-28-2006, 02:28 AM
I can see where you're coming from, but I just started the PvP today (when I got level 25,) and also I have a bunch of high level equipment from my level 60 friends. And sorry, but it's meant for everyone, not just for people who want to stay at level ()9 all the time.

It may "ruin" it for PvP'ers, but occasionally you want to take a break from the grind, and PvP is a good way to do it.

Also, my goal is to level as much as I can, it's not like I'm going to stay level 25. I'm just taking a short break from the main game. I'll probably PvP at every level up to 29, and then when I hit thirty, I'll wait until level 35 or so and start again.

The_4th Himself
10-28-2006, 02:53 AM
have you tried duskwood and redridge quests?

Grinding is the BEST way to level.. believe or not.

The time you are walking= Time you could be getting XP

at 25 , Grind it out at level 25mobs + good money+loot = Win

Duy Nguyen
10-28-2006, 02:56 AM
I am not lying about reaching 26...well could've been 22 or 23, but I am 100% sure I hit 20 something in one day. Elite quests believe me are quite easy with a Rogue, and I didn't state that I did it right when it was like yellow or red to me. When it was around green or sometimes yellow depending on the mobs that I have to handle, I can take it on. It takes a while and requires some dying here and there, but I get the job done doing these elite quests.

I remember spending a good amount of my time doing the dward elite quest in hillsbrad, it was soooooooo annoying to pull the pats and whatnot, but with some patience and planning I got that done myself too. Like I said, my friends only helped me with getting Sword of Omen, Vanquishers, Thrash Blade, Embrace of the Lycan (took me forever), and one of them gave me Basilisk Hide Pants.

I bought nothing along the way, and carried greens/blues for a while. The only expensive item I bought off the AH was the Hanzo Sword, cause I had a shitty OH. Right when I was 60 I went to UBRS for the first time and got my Dal'Rends MH, w00t w00t, I beat the other rogue with a 94 and he rolled 93. I'm so cool.

During my leveling, I grinded a lot North of Hillsbrad killing Yetis and killing the pirates east of Tanaris. Both however are huge gankfest, but play your cards right and kill them before they kill you. Dare I say it, I corpsecamped their ass for a while, until they leave my grinding spot leaving all loots to me, mwuahhahahahaha. It didn't go so well when they come back with their whole guild though...that's when karma hits me hard.

The_4th Himself
10-28-2006, 03:18 AM
I am not lying about reaching 26...well could've been 22 or 23, but I am 100% sure I hit 20 something in one day. Elite quests believe me are quite easy with a Rogue, and I didn't state that I did it right when it was like yellow or red to me. When it was around green or sometimes yellow depending on the mobs that I have to handle, I can take it on. It takes a while and requires some dying here and there, but I get the job done doing these elite quests.

I remember spending a good amount of my time doing the dward elite quest in hillsbrad, it was soooooooo annoying to pull the pats and whatnot, but with some patience and planning I got that done myself too. Like I said, my friends only helped me with getting Sword of Omen, Vanquishers, Thrash Blade, Embrace of the Lycan (took me forever), and one of them gave me Basilisk Hide Pants.

I bought nothing along the way, and carried greens/blues for a while. The only expensive item I bought off the AH was the Hanzo Sword, cause I had a shitty OH. Right when I was 60 I went to UBRS for the first time and got my Dal'Rends MH, w00t w00t, I beat the other rogue with a 94 and he rolled 93. I'm so cool.

During my leveling, I grinded a lot North of Hillsbrad killing Yetis and killing the pirates east of Tanaris. Both however are huge gankfest, but play your cards right and kill them before they kill you. Dare I say it, I corpsecamped their ass for a while, until they leave my grinding spot leaving all loots to me, mwuahhahahahaha. It didn't go so well when they come back with their whole guild though...that's when karma hits me hard.

STV= Gankfest ^_^
I see , interesting indeed. I remember just getting level 18 in One day on Alliance side..but horde is hell alot harder after 23+
Horde( 1-22) easy , XRquests+WC grind fest = Win

sigh.. deep inside I wanna play WoW again ,but its taken too much of my time and I broke the addiction. BC next year.... maybe but leveling all over again..................... NO! DAMN! NO

hehe , no more wow for me!
:nod

Duy Nguyen
10-28-2006, 03:46 AM
^4th...are you listening to yourself?

Give in to WoW, remember all of those great times you PvP and raid with your guild.

Remember the time when you hit 40 and realized you forgot to hit Sergeant prior to buying your mount, or running short on money to getting your first mount?

Remember hitting 60 and think you beat the game, but really the game just kicked your ass and wants you to play more and start pvping and raiding?

Remember winning that sexy loot off the AH, or finding your first epic?

Join the Burning Crusade and frolic with all of the other WoW freaks in the Outlands.

ymcauloser
10-28-2006, 04:01 AM
I played both and gw left a much better impression. Maybe it was because the races i started off with(Gw-ranger WoW-Gnome warlock) but guildwars just seemed like more fun and the quests were meaningful and of course cinematics.

Lancelot
10-28-2006, 06:58 AM
u can never break free of WoW ! ive tried quite some times always came back :P

Thandurin
10-28-2006, 08:43 AM
u can never break free of WoW ! ive tried quite some times always came back :P
I have. :P

Cold_Hearted
10-28-2006, 10:50 AM
I play WoW. And I recommend it. Just don't get addicted to it. May I know if you are American or do you live in Europe? If you live in Europe, I could come on too yer server and check how are the things going there. :P

Still if you are already level 10 or above. Go do some PVP. Loads of fun. But I think I recal that you rolled a Night Elve, that means you are on the Alliance and that means that sadly you shall loose the majority of the Battlegrounds you will fight in your gaming career.

If I may give you some tipps:

- when you will choose proffesions, go for skinning and mining, you will gain money very fast by these proffesions and selling the resources on the Alliance side will be easy
-'specc' into fury/arms like one of the above posters suggested
-find a guild that suits and you will have a great time exploring the beautiful land of Azeroth!
-don't get discouraged if some of the Alliance calls you names like Noob and etc. don't let it get too you, sadly the Alliance side is acting quite immature these days

-don't forget it's a game and most of all HAVE FUN!

-Naxxel level 43 Horde Undead Priest of the server Azjol Nerub: Europe

Stumpy
10-28-2006, 10:57 AM
Grinding is the BEST way to level.. believe or not.

I have to say that I disagree sir. At least until the 50s I can level much faster questing than I could at grind spots.

Taffer
10-28-2006, 12:01 PM
Started WoW two Fridays ago today. I'm level 25 now.

I'm a Human Warrior, and I've done most everything in Menethil Harbor, Westfall, Darkshore, and Ahenvale.

I'm kind of stuck on where I can go to level some more. Everywhere I seem to go has either too easy (green to black) quests, or too hard ones that either I can't access at all, or they're red.

Any advice?

Also, save my money for a mount? You mean I won't be making enough on quests in my late 30's to afford one easily? That's crazy. But honestly, I believe it.

Also, people on the PvP servers are fucking whiny bitches.
Typical PvP Match:
Them: "Ooooh, you're not level 19, 29, 39... etc., why are you on MY server, we're going to lose. Get off NEWB"

Me - "You're a fucking loser. I'm here to do something different. Go jerk off and take a nap, you'll be less bitchy."

This is a fairly good levelling guide:

http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Guides.Detail&id=66

NeoDreamer
10-28-2006, 12:43 PM
I suck at this game hah, I'm a hunter, lvl 13..and I can't kill shit...I mean I can, but without healing, I just die, and my pet only does like 7-12 dmg he's a lvl 13 raptor....I'm a tauren btw...in the barrens.

I'm getting all these red quests and everything else is not showing...either I'm moving too fast, or I'm doing shitty.

either way, when I stick my pet on my target, and then in the time of my pet near death , I shoot it from the distance and still end up dying..

pets are hard to manage, fuckin' raptor will only eat "meat" , but apparently fish and meat are totally different things.

Cold_Hearted
10-28-2006, 01:00 PM
A tip if you wish to survive Neo, stack with food (Meat and etc. and Watter) and don't wait until your pet dies, but just shoot when your pet is attacking the monster. You will kill the monster much faster and you also won't die. But don't be a hero and try to kill level 14+ monsters.

NeoDreamer
10-28-2006, 03:29 PM
I try to stack with food, but none of the animals in the barrens are dropping the meat...fishing i can do since i picked it up as a secondary profession same with first aid.

so I dunno..wish i could just buy some.

The_4th Himself
10-28-2006, 04:57 PM
^4th...are you listening to yourself?

Give in to WoW, remember all of those great times you PvP and raid with your guild.

Remember the time when you hit 40 and realized you forgot to hit Sergeant prior to buying your mount, or running short on money to getting your first mount?

Remember hitting 60 and think you beat the game, but really the game just kicked your ass and wants you to play more and start pvping and raiding?

Remember winning that sexy loot off the AH, or finding your first epic?

Join the Burning Crusade and frolic with all of the other WoW freaks in the Outlands.


Indeed I do , I called it my True WoW era only because the feeling was so.. NEW!!! I moved in with my Wc3 guild aka IEL( the only best clan in wc3 :P )

but , after clearing AQ and stopping at 4H , it doesnt seem fun anymore.
Plus Wii is coming out , and I gotta play Zelda!!!! :nod

Cold_Hearted
10-28-2006, 05:22 PM
I try to stack with food, but none of the animals in the barrens are dropping the meat...fishing i can do since i picked it up as a secondary profession same with first aid.

so I dunno..wish i could just buy some.


Hoho my friend! You can buy meat for you poor Raptor! :) Go into Ogrimmar and when you enter. Just walk further and further and try to keep on the right road. Then you will enter a dark valley. Or a street. :P

When you enter it, try to find the stairs that lead onto the upper parts of the street and there scoop around a lil' bit where you will find an Orc that sells cooking merchendise, and plus the merchendise he also sells meat! I will warn you though, that this is very money consuming, so I rather suggest that you farm meat on the Echo Islands of those Tigers theres. You get some material that you can sell for cash and also as a bonus, a lovely piece of meat! ;)

Hope this helped a bit ...

Cold_Hearted
10-28-2006, 05:23 PM
Indeed I do , I called it my True WoW era only because the feeling was so.. NEW!!! I moved in with my Wc3 guild aka IEL( the only best clan in wc3 :P )

but , after clearing AQ and stopping at 4H , it doesnt seem fun anymore.
Plus Wii is coming out , and I gotta play Zelda!!!! :nod

Nice to see others play games with passion as I do. Can't wait for Wii, nore can't I wait for Zelda. :nod

AdreneLyne
10-29-2006, 01:53 AM
What can I say about WoW. Well, with all the hype and all, me and my friend got it about 2-3 weeks back. I enjoyed it, it was fun. Was being past tense. Not only that, I had many friends already playing who gave me tons of gold, so I was a rich newbie. I have about, 150gold, started with 200gold.

Do I like this game today?

No. I do not. I've seen how the game is, and predicted my future with it (massive addiction, like a past MMO I played.. only for 5 months but, still addiction). So in light of that, today I uninstalled it, threw my cd's in the garbage, and cancelled my subscription. I have too much things going on in life to play WoW, or even get addicted. I know the type of MMORPG it is, and thank lord I was quickly able to foreshadow I won't enjoy this game in the end, and think of it as mindless hours over hours of wasting time.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm saying it's time consuming. Gratz to you guys who can manage your time well and aren't about to graduate in a year. But if you can easily get addicted, I don't recommend it.

My character is just sitting there with all it's gold and items. Am I gonna play it? Nope. Not ever again, and I made sure of that :).

I want to keep my life!

Edit: Forgot to answer your question, GW FTW! Ironically, I have both. Haven't touched GW in about a month or so, but that's because I've been busy.

GW has lower level cap, so less time concentrating on getting your level up, and also PvP in GW is awesome. To me, it's like CS.

NeoDreamer
10-29-2006, 02:16 AM
damn, wish u were on windrunner and sent me your money :)

AdreneLyne
10-29-2006, 02:39 AM
Hah, I probably would as my friend's who played didn't care for the gold.

Warsong here.

NeoDMC
10-29-2006, 02:03 AM
Quest+Grind= the fastest way to level.

I hate people who say grinding is the fastest way to level. Grinding is like...running the ball, sure you control the clock, but are you getting the highest amount of yards?

There are some quests, that will fill up half your bar by just going around talking to people around the world. Hell I got my first 60 by talking to some dude in Stormwind for some guy in the Burning Steppes (granted I had just got done turning the Drakk head quest...)

Don't start saving up for your mount until about 30...your not going to gain much by saving up now, especially when you are a gear dependant warrior. But do save up, not having at least a common mount sux. You might still have to grind after you hit 40 for it, but trust me it helps to have a mount.

I'm one of the lucky wons who always ends up with something I can sell on AH for hella gold. On my Druid I was killing red whelps in Wetlands. Guess what dropped? TWICE!...So I got my gear upgrade and my Nightsaber.

For the newbs, the Baby Dragon Whelp is a pet that used to sell for mucho in AH back in the day.

I remember when I was getting my epic mount, I accidentally bought a common one. So I ended up having to sell it on AH in hopes of getting back most of the profit back. (since without it I wouldn't be able to afford the epic)...that sucked so bad it wasn't even funny :(

You'll never hate WoW more than the time you are grinding for an epic mount...

Duy Nguyen
10-29-2006, 03:33 AM
^Hahahhaa, I didn't care much about the epic mount, because the only running when I'm 60 really is from Thorium Point to Blackrock Mountain. But the mounts do kick ass in BG, because it's so embarassing going all slow while everyoone is running fast.

NeoDreamer
10-29-2006, 03:20 PM
haha, I would rather have a mount just to have one...and I'm sure when the expansion comes out, they'll b more useful...but I hate walking so a mount is better.

I can't seem to sell off items anymore to vendors, I right click on an item i wanna sell to them, but nothing happens. this is horrible, cause I have limited bag slots and I need money.

Oh btw, about ZELDA game, I'm just gonna get it for my GC, cause the graphics are about the same on the Wii, and plus I don't need to get a new system to play the only game I wanted from Wii.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 03:21 PM
What can I say about WoW. Well, with all the hype and all, me and my friend got it about 2-3 weeks back. I enjoyed it, it was fun. Was being past tense. Not only that, I had many friends already playing who gave me tons of gold, so I was a rich newbie. I have about, 150gold, started with 200gold.

Do I like this game today?

No. I do not. I've seen how the game is, and predicted my future with it (massive addiction, like a past MMO I played.. only for 5 months but, still addiction). So in light of that, today I uninstalled it, threw my cd's in the garbage, and cancelled my subscription. I have too much things going on in life to play WoW, or even get addicted. I know the type of MMORPG it is, and thank lord I was quickly able to foreshadow I won't enjoy this game in the end, and think of it as mindless hours over hours of wasting time.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm saying it's time consuming. Gratz to you guys who can manage your time well and aren't about to graduate in a year. But if you can easily get addicted, I don't recommend it.

My character is just sitting there with all it's gold and items. Am I gonna play it? Nope. Not ever again, and I made sure of that :).

I want to keep my life!

Edit: Forgot to answer your question, GW FTW! Ironically, I have both. Haven't touched GW in about a month or so, but that's because I've been busy.

GW has lower level cap, so less time concentrating on getting your level up, and also PvP in GW is awesome. To me, it's like CS.

People who get addicted are rather...pathetic

I have been playing for 10+ hours a day now and got in my first fight over WoW with my parents =D

Currently I am level 16

I also took part in a raid in the dead mines, got about half way before I had to go to bed >_>;, we were looking for a priest to join us one joined and then went "lol a 15 warrior in this?" and left O_o

while I actually was a huge help with the shredder with my sunder armor

(rest was all level 20+)

When do I get the thing to recharge my rage D:

Stumpy
10-29-2006, 03:39 PM
People who get addicted are rather...pathetic

I have been playing for 10+ hours a day now and got in my first fight over WoW with my parents =D

Currently I am level 16

I also took part in a raid in the dead mines, got about half way before I had to go to bed >_>;, we were looking for a priest to join us one joined and then went "lol a 15 warrior in this?" and left O_o

while I actually was a huge help with the shredder with my sunder armor

(rest was all level 20+)

When do I get the thing to recharge my rage D:

Group = 2-5 people
Raid = 6-40 people

And though maybe you felt you did well, I'm pretty sure you weren't very helpful at all. Depends.

Don't you have a rage generating skill by now? If you do then that's about as good as it gets. Most rage will always come from taking and dealing damage.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 03:48 PM
Group = 2-5 people
Raid = 6-40 people

And though maybe you felt you did well, I'm pretty sure you weren't very helpful at all. Depends.

Don't you have a rage generating skill by now? If you do then that's about as good as it gets. Most rage will always come from taking and dealing damage.

We were with 10 :oh And they told me that I was usefull , hell they got pissed at the priest guy, then I got invited to join the leader's guild

Stumpy
10-29-2006, 04:18 PM
lol? sorry I've just never heard of a 10 man VC...

NeoDMC
10-29-2006, 04:23 PM
Raiding deadmines? lawl.

Man I forgot how pugging was....I miss PuGs :cry

They are so much more intresting than with guild mates...because with guildmates you already know how they will react to everything, and you already know you guys are going to win. No fun at all. I like the arguments, the lack of communication, and the wipes that are inherent to PuGs.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 05:37 PM
People need to start using the full perms because stuff like PuGs are like


chinese

Stumpy
10-29-2006, 06:20 PM
pug = Pick up group. A group of people who generally don't know each other I guess.

VC = the abbreviation for Deadmines. VC comes from the name of the final boss, but I don't remember his name right now. DM on the other hand means Dire Maul, so they had to come up with something else for deadmines.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 06:27 PM
pug = Pick up group. A group of people who generally don't know each other I guess.

VC = the abbreviation for Deadmines. VC comes from the name of the final boss, but I don't remember his name right now. DM on the other hand means Dire Maul, so they had to come up with something else for deadmines.
ooh

everybody called it DM :oh

Haha 100% of the groups I am in are PuGs then XD though these days im in groups with people I was in a group with before + people from my guild (europa)

Dead mines was fun <33

General Mustang
10-29-2006, 06:46 PM
I've played both for a while, WoW is way superior by far. A lot bigger fun factor and I just enjoy it more.

Stumpy
10-29-2006, 06:58 PM
ooh

everybody called it DM :oh

Haha 100% of the groups I am in are PuGs then XD though these days im in groups with people I was in a group with before + people from my guild (europa)

Dead mines was fun <33
I suppose many newer players will call it DM by instinct, but in later levels when players think of DM they think of Dire Maul.

Have you learned anything about UI modifications yet? If not then I shall introduce them to you.

Sites in order of my preference:
http://www.wowinterface.com/
http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons.html
http://ui.worldofwar.net/

You will probably want to bookmark at least wowinterface.com.

A quick guide to installing these mods/UIs.
http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=install#faq_install_doesntwork

My UI/mod recommendations.

CTMod
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3826-CTMod.html
FuBar 2.0
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4571-FuBar_2.0.html
FuBar 2.0 Plugin Starter Pack
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4612
Scrolling Combat Text
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3965-Scrolling_Combat_Text.html
Atlas
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3896-Atlas.html
Bagnon
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4459

Those are just the some of the addons I cannot live without and I'm sure once you gain a good understanding of them you will feel the same way.

I'm not sure how easy it is to understand this off the bat, but if you have any questions about any of this just ask. :)

NeoDMC
10-29-2006, 07:06 PM
DM is for Dire Maul man...don't use that in a city or you'll get a bunch of pissed 60's who thought they finally got a Dire Maul group going.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 07:11 PM
DM is for Dire Maul man...don't use that in a city or you'll get a bunch of pissed 60's who thought they finally got a Dire Maul group going.

Apart from two people in stormwind I havent seen any 60's

NeoDMC
10-29-2006, 07:16 PM
...lol you are on such a low-pop server it isn't even funny. Blizz really shafts you if you let them pick the server for you. While low-pop may seem like a good idea on paper, Blizz went a little overboard with it, they need to just manually level out the server pops, especially since community is on-hand for all areas of the game unlike other MMO's where the problem with population balance usually comes from the fact that not that many people are playing.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 07:28 PM
...lol you are on such a low-pop server it isn't even funny. Blizz really shafts you if you let them pick the server for you. While low-pop may seem like a good idea on paper, Blizz went a little overboard with it, they need to just manually level out the server pops, especially since community is on-hand for all areas of the game unlike other MMO's where the problem with population balance usually comes from the fact that not that many people are playing.

I don't really mind the fact that there aren't alot of level 60's on my server or they are just somewhere else :oh

Thedude556
10-29-2006, 07:30 PM
I play both of them and i have to say WoW is by far the better of the two because of more gameplay options and ability to do more things, unlike just missions and PVP

Stumpy
10-29-2006, 07:31 PM
Wait until you are level 60 looking for a group to go to a 10-15 man raid instance. Could take hours just to find a good group of the right classes you need. And then you have to do the instance which usually takes an hours or two. You will mind. (:

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 07:35 PM
Wait until you are level 60 looking for a group to go to a 10-15 man raid instance. Could take hours just to find a good group of the right classes you need. And then you have to do the instance which usually takes an hours or two. You will mind. (:

It will take a veryyyy long time for me to be level 60 :laugh

il just change my realm then :oh

somebody told me to type /pvp don't really know what it did :oh

NeoDMC
10-29-2006, 07:39 PM
Where else would they be? You're in the second most important city in the Alliance, on some servers the most important.

Naw, Blizz rolled you on a low-pop, low-60, low chance of experiencing endgame content sever.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 08:08 PM
Where else would they be? You're in the second most important city in the Alliance, on some servers the most important.

Naw, Blizz rolled you on a low-pop, low-60, low chance of experiencing endgame content sever.

And how do i find these things out?

Stumpy
10-29-2006, 10:36 PM
It's pretty hard to find out which servers are the best if your really picky like me. Some things you can do though is browse the server's forums to see what the people talk about and whatnot, check the server's wowcensus (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php) info, or just go to a high pop server.

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 11:23 PM
so there is no way for me to play on a american server?

NeoDMC
10-29-2006, 11:55 PM
You can...I don't know how, but you can.

Unless you live in Quebec then you're breaking the TOS in relation to you're government's language laws.

Edit:
Actually now that I think about it you're not, because the servers are in America...

Vegitto-kun
10-29-2006, 11:56 PM
I liveth in belgium =O

what is grinding? D:

NeoDMC
10-30-2006, 12:01 AM
I liveth in belgium =O

what is grinding? D:

Killing mobs

mob=anything that attacks you if you get close

By only grinding you are only gathering the natural experience you get from killing something. It is much better to do quests, and grind. Most quests have you grind anyways, so you're getting the double amount of exp for everything you do.

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 12:03 AM
Killing mobs

mob=anything that attacks you if you get close

By only grinding you are only gathering the natural experience you get from killing something. It is much better to do quests, and grind. Most quests have you grind anyways, so you're getting the double amount of exp for everything you do.

I cant really seem to find anymore quests D:

and wtf is up with this

http://fapomatic.com/0644/wowscrnshot_102806_141228.jpg

Takumi Matsuki
10-30-2006, 12:13 AM
I cant really seem to find anymore quests D:

and wtf is up with this

http://fapomatic.com/0644/wowscrnshot_102806_141228.jpg

There a bunch of different places to train. I just can VC was I was lower. then Stockades. It costs $20(25?) to change servers btw so probably shouldnt' until you 60.

Stumpy
10-30-2006, 12:39 AM
I cant really seem to find anymore quests D:

and wtf is up with this

http://fapomatic.com/0644/wowscrnshot_102806_141228.jpg

???

that screen is so small... what about it?

If you rolled Horde I could tell you just about anything you could possibly want to know about leveling, but I didn't get past Westfall on Alliance because I really hated it that much.

NeoDMC
10-30-2006, 02:49 AM
You and your 70x70 pics Vegitto :oh ...

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 09:46 AM
wtf that pic is 1920 X 120 here wtf

NeoDMC
10-30-2006, 10:13 AM
175x109 to me....

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 02:11 PM
wtf give me some easy to use host since I cant get my ftp login to work anymore =/

Knight of Fate
10-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Why don't you just resize it before hosting? @_@

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 02:30 PM
How you mean? I don't really have a clue why fapomatic resizes a 1900 X 1200 file to 70x70 apparently O_o

how about this

http://fapomatic.com/show.php?loc=0644&f=wowscrnshot_102806_141228_1.jpg

Knight of Fate
10-30-2006, 02:33 PM
Maybe 1900 X 1200 is way pass the size limit of the host you're using. Try resizing the screenshot to like...800 x something and see if that works.

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 02:38 PM
Maybe 1900 X 1200 is way pass the size limit of the host you're using. Try resizing the screenshot to like...800 x something and see if that works.

they don't give you a resolution limit only the limit of the file and it seems to work else they would go "wtf bitch this over mah limit" try the link I gave

Raptor
10-30-2006, 02:49 PM
use http://www.imagehigh.com/ >.> there's no limit there >.>

Knight of Fate
10-30-2006, 02:55 PM
http://serv2.imagehigh.com/imgss/4275715_wowscrnshot_102806_141228_1.jpg
Done =D

*plays GW*

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 03:21 PM
ok then

http://serv2.imagehigh.com/imgss/4275715_wowscrnshot_102806_141228_1.jpg


what the fuck happened with my model and face and shit

NeoDMC
10-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Hmm...this is a glitch I have never seen before...

But apperently your character has been replaced by a Red X suspended in a great white void of nothingness.

Tough break nigga! :laugh

Edit: nvm :sweatdrop

also it could be server lag...On my old server I used to end up with human hair and shtuff like that.

Knight of Fate
10-30-2006, 03:45 PM
I think it might be a glitch, bug or something. Any new patches? But either way, this dang glitch made your character look ghey.

NeoDMC
10-30-2006, 03:51 PM
Naw...this is a server issue, if more people experience it, Vegitto's server will probably just reboot. Or maybe you need to lower your graphics.

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 03:56 PM
I will never believe that my computer cant handle WoW on maximum :yell

this happened after I fought a monster, after a while it fixed itself

NeoDMC
10-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Why didn't you add that peice in the descriptiong.

Yell:FALSE ALARM PEOPLE, IT WAS JUST LAG....AGAIN

AdreneLyne
10-30-2006, 06:16 PM
People who get addicted are rather...pathetic

I have been playing for 10+ hours a day now and got in my first fight over WoW with my parents =D

Currently I am level 16

I also took part in a raid in the dead mines, got about half way before I had to go to bed >_>;, we were looking for a priest to join us one joined and then went "lol a 15 warrior in this?" and left O_o

while I actually was a huge help with the shredder with my sunder armor

(rest was all level 20+)

When do I get the thing to recharge my rage D:

10+ hours a day.. that is addiction! You are addicted yourself :p

Vegitto-kun
10-30-2006, 06:20 PM
10+ hours a day.. that is addiction! You are addicted yourself :p

I am not

:oh

nothing wrong with playing the game is there? (starts it up)

What would you guys do


I got a two handed sword with 24-36 damage (10.7 damage per second) with +3 spirit and stamina

or should I use a 17-28 damage (7.8 damage per second) +1 stamina and a 361 defence shield

?

Duy Nguyen
10-31-2006, 02:15 AM
^As a warrior, I prefer going dual wield till you get a good 2hander ie Whirlwind. Once you get a hold of the whirlwind weapons, or some other strong 2hander, go for super slow 2handed weapons with a high max damage. That's if you're going for the MS build (highly reccomended).

For leveling before you get Mortal Strike, Whirlwind and all that fun stuff just do sunder armor. Heroic Strike does extra damage, but it has a hidden cost to it. I forgot the math and how many rage you get per slash, but say you get 5, and HS uses 10 rage. You have to swing twice to get 10 rage and to do yor HS. HS waste 10 rage but it takes a place of a normal attack but with extra damage, but you don't get rage from doing it, thus you really used up 15 rage when using HS.

Sunder in the other hand is not a buffed up attack, but it's own seperate instant attack, so keep that in mind when questing and grinding.

Once you're 41 or so that's when you can do more damage.
Charge > Attack > Mortal Strike > Berserker Stance > Attack > Whirlwind > Combat Stance > Attack > Execute

And whenever you get the chance, Overpower.

AdreneLyne
10-31-2006, 03:10 AM
While playing WoW, I seriously thought Warriors are teh suck.. what the hell?

Like I mean I was waiting for this Orc Warrior to finish up killing this mob, so we can duel. He was horrible! He was using a two hand sword, and took forever to kill the guy! He was like lvl 20, they must have some real shit DPS, I thought he was gonna die.. and this was just an average mob.

I was a rogue, and pwned the mob so much easier than him.

Duy Nguyen
10-31-2006, 04:31 AM
^Warriors are VERY item dependant compared to a Rogue. During PvE it's natural that a Rogue can out DPS all other classes at soloing. Once a Warrior gets his or her gear they will become killing machines. I was doing horrible world PvPing and whatnot before I got my Stoneslayer from Uldaman. 200 max damage is beastly damage.

Here's my epic battle with my Warrior. I was level 50ish leveling in Feralas killing ogres. Some random rogue cheap shotted me and some hunter decided to shoot me too. Well, turned around MS the rogue doing a 700+ crit and overpowered him for about 700+ more damage so he died. Intercepted the Hunter and beated his shit too. Then I saw another hunter coming to his aid, charged that foo and kill him too, gg Warrior beefiness.

Vegitto-kun
10-31-2006, 10:06 AM
While playing WoW, I seriously thought Warriors are teh suck.. what the hell?

Like I mean I was waiting for this Orc Warrior to finish up killing this mob, so we can duel. He was horrible! He was using a two hand sword, and took forever to kill the guy! He was like lvl 20, they must have some real shit DPS, I thought he was gonna die.. and this was just an average mob.

I was a rogue, and pwned the mob so much easier than him.

Simple answer he sucked ass and must of had a crappy two hand sword


even though im only level 16 i killed level 18 harves