Is the Time at Hand?

[MightyMaxxx]

I'm just curious....

With the recent increase in natural disasters, the overall lowered morale of all, and the re-election of ole "dubbaya", is it gettin to be the time to say so long? Money being the new god,(lack of it seems to be killing interest in the sciences!) suicide rates up, and, if you ask around, not one person anymore claims to be truly happy for more than a few hours. Is it gettin to be our time?

[narutofan20052005]

ur right, its like the worlds endin or somethin

[Blue]

The world is in better shape then it's ever been. A few setbacks doesn't take away from that. Consider:
1. The recent Tsunami was a pitiful excuse for a disaster by historical standards
2. Morale is only down for Americans it seems. Everyone else in the civilized world seems to be having fun. (I am American)
3. W is hardly the worst president we've ever had. (I voted for Kerry)
4. Money has ALWAYS been god.
5. Private research is going full steam.
6. The suicide rate is up, but the murder rate is halved over 1990.
7. No one is ever happy.

[momodesu]

Meh, what the world has is an imbalance. There are too many resources in developed countries, and in the under-developed countries you'd probably be lucky to get three full meals a day. Put a person from a third world country in your place right now and they'd be generally really happy. The world and your surroundings are only what you make it.

[Q]

I'm just curious....

With the recent increase in natural disasters, the overall lowered morale of all, and the re-election of ole "dubbaya", is it gettin to be the time to say so long? Money being the new god,(lack of it seems to be killing interest in the sciences!) suicide rates up, and, if you ask around, not one person anymore claims to be truly happy for more than a few hours. Is it gettin to be our time?
No?
Natural disasters increasing? I don't think so.
Massive tsunamis happen every few hundred years; this is normal :blink
If the re-election if Dubya is a sign of the apocalypse, you've seen one too many tarot cards.
Nobody ever says they're truly happy, but most are just being melodramatic.
Money is God... and this is supposed to be a new concept?
Science is doing fine.
Suicide naturally goes up as the population increases. Law of Averages.
Morale is fine, but people like to bitch.

Everything's fine, you just choose to read the bad signs rather than the good ones.

[MightyMaxxx]

Can anyone sight how things arent going down the tubes with their own examples instead of rebutting mine? No im not crazy or even unpleasent, just up for an apocalypse debate.

[Kevinthewiseone]

well io don't belive that it is the end but a transatinal peroid and that we will come out at teh end of eh tunnel a better spices

[Keramachi]

You mean the End Time? When Sajuuk will be reborn? At last... He whose Hand shapes what is will return...

Ok! Now that I got that needless HW2 fanboyism (please don't think I believe any of that) out, I say the perenially annoying answer: "Wait and see." I will not make a decision one way or the other, but I can say with confidence that much will be changed in the next 4 years. History will not be kind to George W. Bush, at least in other countries. I think that W lacks the attitude and decision-making skills to deal with the threats that may arise, because of his idiotic first term. Not only was it an example of a lack of presidential ability, it also removed what assets we once had that could have been used for things more important than personal vendettas. Seriously, does he think that the money he needs will just appear out of thin air?

[Dagda_Mor]

A while back I saw a graph of the world's population from 10,000 B.C. onwards. It was a linear exponential progression, except there was one spot where it dropped by about 25%. That was due to the Black .

So yeah, natural disasters and Dubya aren't signs of the apocalypse.

[Kage Iwa]

Consider the following:

World population Maps from 1 AD to Projected 2020 AD (http://desip.igc.org/populationmaps.html)

ESTIMATED World population from 1950 and back. (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldhis.html)

World Population from 1950 to projected 2050 (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html)

Those figures alone show the world is constantly growing and is also prohjected to continue to grow. With all the technology constantly coming itno play, it is the norm to see people living into old age. Our ancestors never lived in such, or even dreamed for that matter, of a such a prosperous and wonderful world. It is now uncommon to see men in their 60's or 70's living life as they used to in their early adult lives.

Also consider that the latest natural disasters, while unfortuante, are not something entirely new. This (http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blcenturyworst.htm) article was written in 1999 and shows that the latest natural disasters are nothing new. There are alot more in history that are not even recorded offically. For all we know, there could have been a dozen Tsunami during one portion in time.

Also consider that as soon as the Tsunami was over, relief aid cam poruing in from ALL over the world. Can you imagine what the death toll could be if they were left to fend for themselves? it could easily rise from its 118,000 (as of Dec 30, 2004, reported in CNN. I couldnt find any later confirmed numbers) to maybe 150,000 or even 200,000.

The world isnt coming to an End. If anything it is prospering better than ever. The Media just happens to highlight the negative apsects of our world. Humans seem to gravitate towards the negative aspect of the world, sympathetic or otherwise. The world is a beautiful garden, full of life and wonder. Some people just seem to stare at the dirt patches rather than the flower next to it.

[haearnbran]

I heard something about an earthquake happening in 2010 and the world ending in 2012. Personally I don't believe it, but it does make a good conversation piece.

[Q]

I'm just curious....

With the recent increase in natural disasters, the overall lowered morale of all, and the re-election of ole "dubbaya", is it gettin to be the time to say so long? Money being the new god,(lack of it seems to be killing interest in the sciences!) suicide rates up, and, if you ask around, not one person anymore claims to be truly happy for more than a few hours. Is it gettin to be our time?
Okay, if you want me to contradict this with evidence that this is NOT the end...
1. There is NOT an increase in natural disasters. Massive tsunamis supposedly come every 300 years or so.
2. The President is not that bad. There's no evidence that he's going to destroy the world. He's actually done a decent job so far (even though I don't really like him)
3. Money is not the new God. It's been God for quite a time now. Why do you think there have always been rich and poor?
4. Suicide rates are up, and that is a signal that we're creating a dystopian society. Not good; still not a sign that our time is coming to an end.
5. Nobody ever claims to be truly happy. That's not evidence.

How about...
Technology is still rising like mad. We are gaining more by the day.
Countries formerly on the outside looking in (think China) are moving up to compete with the economic superpowers of the world.
Order is slowly being restored to areas of disorder and power imbalances. Saddam Hussein has been ousted from Iraq, the Taliban has been taken from power in Afghanistan, Israel and the Palestinians are moving toward an agreement (which would go a long way to stabilizing the Middle East)... These are all steps toward world peace, which, as we all know, will never happen... but we can come close.

[Kage Iwa]

is a signal that we're creating a dystopian society.

stop using big words fon us :P

[Q]

stop using big words fon us :P
Dystopia - opposite of utopia.

[liminosse]

IMO people aren't happy because of dpression, mainly do to being overweight.... BLAME FAST FOOD, THEY ARE THE HIDDEN EMPIRE of the modern world, they really seem to be ruining most peoles lives, least here in the US anyway... happy for 30 minutes while you eat an addictive meal, unhappy for the rest of yer life,

heres a challange, you like fast food? eat it pretty often? try to stop, make yourself quit eating fast food all together, its hard as hell. They addict you to it, don't believe me? then prove me wrong stop eating it and tell me you don't crave it still, I use to go to mcdonalds all the time and get 2 double cheeseburgers and a medium fry for 3 bucks and chow down, i had to stop eating red meat to get rid of the addiction and still i eat fast food,(chicken grilled stuffed burritos) whats wrong with this picture? I tried to stop, even to the point of no red meat and i still want a double cheese burger HALF A YEAR LATER!
good luck if you accept i hope you can prove me wrong...

[Inactive Uzumaki]

stop using big words fon us :P
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and guessing English is not your native language.

Anyway, the end of humanity does not equal the end of the world. Earth was around for millions of years before the primordial ooze that would eventually become humans even gurgled.

Besides, it is no great loss if our species died out.

[buzzy86]

Today's world is definitely messed up. There are really not bad ones and no good ones. A good example is the fight that are having lately the US and the EU. One claims to be the saviour of the world's democracy by killing people in Irak and Afganistan and the other, at the same time that he criticises the Iraqi atrocity, is doing the same in Costa de Marfil.

Also, as you have been talking about before, money is the great king nowadays. It is funny to see that the ones who invest in wars are the same who invest in non-governamental organizations helping the tsunami victims. What the world most desires now is money, and is the money that is moving everything nowadays.

[ChaochroX]

IMO people aren't happy because of dpression, mainly do to being overweight.... BLAME FAST FOOD, THEY ARE THE HIDDEN EMPIRE of the modern world, they really seem to be ruining most peoles lives, least here in the US
People always blame fast food for being fat even suing them but what about the people who are constaintly scarfing it down. How can you blame a company when your the one who's eating it completely of you own free will. Anyway back on subject: I agree with Vash the end of the world won't happen so easily. I'm not a christian or have any religion for that matter so I don't believe in an apocalypse either. And yes Dabya is a dipshit half retard president but he certainly isn't the worst leader ever. Just 4 more years to put up with him.

[liminosse]

because its not free will, its addictive AHHH ... :P and a law was passed saying you can't sue fast food companys anymore hehe


im just messin

[Kage Iwa]

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and guessing English is not your native language.


I was only kidding trying to make the point of us being incapable of understanding some of the terms Vash had used in his post. :P

USA all the way!!!! :smile-big

Anyways, I always thought it was completely idiotic how people could sue and WIN against fast food resturants. People need better common sense and better will power. "Im fat cuz that burger joint on the corner never told me that a Double Bacon Cheeseburger was high in calories and had Bad Carbs!!" God....how annoying....

[imchemist]

I think it is almost time for something to blow over. There is so much tension building up in this world.