Gundam Modelling

[Mindless]

Right now I'm working on a Gelgoog that I'm going to make in a World War II theme, well, try anyway. Then I'm going to build a Kaempfer in the same theme.

So far I've just added damage on the arms and shield and put a coat of primer on the shield. Oh yeah, did some preshading with the airbrush on the shield last night, turned out pretty good.

[Kiba-kun]

Only thing going at the moment is a 1/100 AEGIS, but I think there's several others I've built and never posted pics of. I'll get some updated photos soon.

[Mindless]

Sup Kiba, good to see you.

Found a picture of the 1/144 Strike Noir that will be coming out soon. Looks really cool in my opinion. :)

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/259/11432830856820kt.jpg

[ssouske]

its not new news but 1/100 Infinite Justice is scheduled to be released this may... i'll post some pics of the prototype...:amuse

[Kereo]

OMG, where the hell did that evil strike come from?
And why is it called strike? I think it looks like Freedom.

[Mindless]

This is how the shield turned out for my Gelgoog.

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9771/dscn25792jy.jpg

[ssouske]

This is how the shield turned out for my Gelgoog.

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9771/dscn25792jy.jpg

WOOOOO!!! BEAUTIFUL SHIELD THERE MINDLESS!!!:hearts :wtf

@Kereo
thats strike noir its one of the new gundams for Gundam SEED OVA called "Stargazer" i gotta agree with ya though... it looks like one mean strike gundam:amuse

[willchan8]

Hi Guys

I'm a noob in gundam modelling, but have just got myself a mg freedom and a 1/100 destiny. As i can't read Japanese, i'm not to sure what colour paints I need to get, I have got the main red's and blue's and yellow that i need and also a black and white, but i'm having difficulties with exactly what shades of grey I need for both models, I intended on using tamiya spray paint for a base coat of paint while all parts are still on their trees. So if anyone else has made either of these models, could you please tell me what colour paints you used, thanks guys.

[yummysasuke]

I've started like modelling ever since watching my brother do one. So right now, I've completed:

W Gundam Zero Custom
Gundam RX-7GP02A
Wing Gundam Zero Mobile Suit XXXG-00W0
FA-O1O-A FAZZ EFSF Prototype Mobile Suit
Strike Rouge Orb Mobile Suit MBF-02
FXA-OSD/RX-178 Super Gundam

I realise that there's more in my cabinet, but I can't find the boxes to them.

[ssouske]

Hi Guys

I'm a noob in gundam modelling, but have just got myself a mg freedom and a 1/100 destiny. As i can't read Japanese, i'm not to sure what colour paints I need to get, I have got the main red's and blue's and yellow that i need and also a black and white, but i'm having difficulties with exactly what shades of grey I need for both models, I intended on using tamiya spray paint for a base coat of paint while all parts are still on their trees. So if anyone else has made either of these models, could you please tell me what colour paints you used, thanks guys.

hmmm... you have 2 choices... either [1]you buy the gundam paint markers that have the right colors or [2] bring the color guide to a paint shop/store and let them mix the acrylics for you. even if they can't read japanese, they could match the color perfectly...

[Mindless]

Or you just use your own eyes and find a color that resembles the one on the model. It shouldn't be that hard. :)

[aznguy28]

when me and my bro combined our gundams, we had like 20-28 gundams. now sadly hardly any store sell them, and ive ordered just a few from ebay and thats it. really sad that they dont sell 'em anymore....gundam making used to be my no.1 hobby....it still is though :)

[ssouske]

you guys know what? i think this is 100% gundam modeling related... but then again its also 100% Haruhi Suzumiya related... for those who have not seen this video yet... here is the link (http://www.sos-dan.com/Suzumiya_Haruhi_no_Yuuutsu_ED(gundam).avi)

[willchan8]

Cheers guys, thanks for the responses, destiny is well on its way, but is being delayed by some airbrush issues, will post a pic when they are done! Thanks again.

[Mindless]

Here's a picture to get an idea of what my Gelgoog looks like now. Working on the damage on the legs now and some drybrushing. Then it's off to assembly. I'll see what I can get done during the week. :)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5663/dscn26061da.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn26061da.jpg)

[zeheero1982]

No Destiny Gundam, WOW!!!!!!:cry

[Mindless]

No Destiny Gundam, WOW!!!!!!:cry

What? :huh

[Mindless]

Here's how my Gelgoog turned out. I was only able to take two pictures of it before the batteries in the camera ran out.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5515/dscn26097ju.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn26097ju.jpg)

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/4615/dscn26106lc.th.jpg (http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn26106lc.jpg)

[willchan8]

As I said in an earlier post, here is a pic of my finished 1/100 Destiny, with a few lil friends i picked up in HK and Japan recently. Sorry for poor lighting, just wanted to get a photo as soon as I finished. Next MG Freedom, thanks for people who posted helpful replies to my questions.

http://files.tagworld.com/0143904465867fcb4e30908d29a032c93730.jpeg

[ssouske]

dude... have you added the panel lines for destiny? i can't see any lines... i recomend that you add em to add depth to your model. just be careful in adding them. nevertheless... nice job on the model:thumbs

[willchan8]

Thanks ssouske, yeah did all the panel lines, apart from the air intake on destiny's leg. Had a right nightmare with some of them, but think i worked out a pretty easy way to do it now, so freedom should be easier.

[Ha-ri]

Well nice to see people doing model stuff again. I remeber last summer as if it was yesterday........ Anyways to kick off my summer modeling I gona finish my japaneese model I started in the begining of school and start a SD Strike Freedom, after that I'll do my Astry(fianlly).

[Deranged]

i was into gundam modellin for a bit last year but the series is like nonexistant here in Britain so they dont sell the model kits anymore. I wish there was an easy way to get models here in britain but unfortunately there isnt so I started on Warhammer models... and that in no way matched the brilliance of gundam models :(

[Ha-ri]

Theres always ebay and HobbyLink Japan (http://www.hlj.com/index.html), thats where I got all of mine. Almost of the stores around here are still selling only NGs so yeah I try to avoid U.S. model stores....and human contact too:nod.

[Pr1de]

gundam models are so cool and fantastic i bought quite a few

[Ha-ri]

Come on people lets bring this thread back to life, lets start some models! Anyone working on anything latly? I gona start my new models myself either in a week or the week of the break between regular school and summer school. I hope a new seris starts up soon so we can get more high quality models and inane peices of art too. Oh and Pr1de what models do you currently have?

[milkyman4016]

Hello everyone, can anyone give me tips of how to paint a gundam so it looks proper pro?? like darker shades and stuff. i dunno how to do it and firstly i dunno what to use
if anyone know what to do, pleaaaaaase tell me what to do, i will much appreciate your post
tttthank you!!

JUST LIKE THIS ONE!!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e304/single1987/GundamG-4ALEX.jpg

[Ha-ri]

I an't no expert but I'd say pratice alot, and have steady hands. So anyways I'm laning on getting a new model but not sure which to get. I'm considering HG 1/144 - Aile Strike Gundam, Justice, or Dom Trooper. Any sugestions?

[ssouske]

I an't no expert but I'd say pratice alot, and have steady hands. So anyways I'm laning on getting a new model but not sure which to get. I'm considering HG 1/144 - Aile Strike Gundam, Justice, or Dom Trooper. Any sugestions?
try getting the less complex of the 3... my guess it would be the dom trooper... 1/144s are really hard to pain especially if you wanna do the small details. the lesser the detail, the better:P

[Ha-ri]

Well I'm not worryed about painting it, because I won't be going directly to it. I still gota some other models to do so yeah. I kinda leaning aginst Aile Strike Gundam, but I'm not sure waither to get Justice or Dom.

[ssouske]

Well I'm not worryed about painting it, because I won't be going directly to it. I still gota some other models to do so yeah. I kinda leaning aginst Aile Strike Gundam, but I'm not sure waither to get Justice or Dom.
i say forget about the justice gundam and get infinite justice... in my opinion, it looks way better than its predecessor...:P but thats just my opinion...:amuse right now, i just wanna see an akatsuki model that actually has that dragoon pack... the current 1/144 akatsuki has the atmosphere flight pack thing...:(

[Donkey Show]

I should show my RX-78 Char Aznable Custom model. That thing is soooooo much better looking than the original one. ^^

[Ha-ri]

i say forget about the justice gundam and get infinite justice... in my opinion, it looks way better than its predecessor...:P but thats just my opinion...:amuse right now, i just wanna see an akatsuki model that actually has that dragoon pack... the current 1/144 akatsuki has the atmosphere flight pack thing...:(

I feel your pain, I wanted a akatsuki model since I saw it first apper in the series, and a dragoon pack just adds to its awsomeness. And did I say justice? I meant infinite justice the whole time. I know that the regular justice looks lame, but the infinite its cool.

Delicious Slut: Well what are you waiting for? Show it. That reminds me I shoudl get a huge pack of AAs for my battery eating digital camera :P

EDIT:(6/12/06) Well I started my SD Strike Freedom and I'm going and doing a singal section a day. Painting, drying, and puting on mulitple layers and all that good stuff. ANd I gona try and not use any stickers at all this time, looks better than my previous trys too. Well the Strike Freedom is just to get me back into shape so I can fainlly do my HG Astray Red Frame.

[Donkey Show]

YAY!!! I got my PG Strike Gundam today at Anime Expo. This thing is going to be a beast to complete. I also got the MG Zeta plus C1 and a GM Quel, too. It'll be awhile before I complete all of them, but I'm happy XD

[ssouske]

... DS... are you sure its a PG Freedom and not an MG Freedom? just asking... i haven't heard any news about models for the past 8months... though i have seen HG 1/100 Infinite Justice and HG 1/144 models of both owashi and shiranui aktasukis

[staradderdragoon]

im going to hong kong next month, and if i am correct, i thought there was some huge gundam store around there...if someone could lead me as to where it is located, it would be much appreciated...and if im wrong, could anyone tell some places near hong kong or shenzen where i could go visit to get models?

[Donkey Show]

... DS... are you sure its a PG Freedom and not an MG Freedom? just asking... i haven't heard any news about models for the past 8months... though i have seen HG 1/100 Infinite Justice and HG 1/144 models of both owashi and shiranui aktasukis
LOL, I never said PG Freedom. I said PG Strike Gundam. XD PG Freedom doesn't exist at all. :laugh

[ssouske]

lol! my bad... my god damned eyes were looking for freeedom when i saw the word strike:P sorry...

[Donkey Show]

LOL, well, the project for this badass model is that I'm going to try to emulate Strike Noir colors with this PG and add a couple tweaks in design. I might even kitbash as soon as I decide on getting the PG Skygrasper + Aile Striker kit. I'll post a modded lineart pic of the colors I'm gonna use for the kit.

[ssouske]

^_____^ nice! i'm looking forward to seeing that...

hey does anybody know if there are still strike freedom mod kits for MG freedom which are for sale in the market???

if none then i might just buy either HG 1/100 infinite Justice + the 1/144 dragoon akatsuki... or MG zeta ver 2.0:P

[Donkey Show]

LOL you should have went to Anime Expo on the last day. They were selling MG Zeta v.2 kits for $35 (I got one too XD). As for the conversion kit for SF, look at Yahoo Japan. It'll show up from time to time, but be prepared to buy for at least $140 if not more.

[ssouske]

argh... i knew it... it was one of those conversion kits that costs as much or more than the model itself...:notrust

anyway, thanks for the tip DS :amuse

[Donkey Show]

LOL, no problem. ^^ And on the topic of conversion kits, here's a nice place to find them. Really fucking high quality work. http://cw-shop.co.kr/

As for the PG Strike, the frame is insanely complex. Just the feet took about 15 minutes to complete. O_o

[darksage78]

Just came back from HK got HG 1/100 Infinite Justice, probably will start building it in a few days :)

[staradderdragoon]

Just came back from HK got HG 1/100 Infinite Justice, probably will start building it in a few days :)

where in hong kong?

[darksage78]

I got it at Animate United, Kornhill Branch. I shulda bought the 1/100 HG Legend as well and some random Keroro stuff, but stupid Canadian maximum $750 customs declaration...

[yangxu]

I just started modelling last week, I've looked through a few pages in this thread for tips, however, since I'm not very bright when it comes to handworks, can anyone recommand a site that gives a step to step tutorial of how to build a decend model?

Also, I'm thinking of buying an airbrush, but there seem to be some really cheap ones and some really expensive ones on sale at ebay, according to some sites, the external mix (I suppose they are referring to paint or something) ones produce horrible results, and the internal mix ones require a compressor!? (which is like another $70 or more). I haven't tried spray or brush yet, but I heard they don't work too well for 1/144 HG models. Can you guys give me some advice? Thanks in advance.

[ssouske]

Mindless is the one who is the expert for airbrushes... but i do have experience in using an airbrush... here are some of my tips for you...

1)paint indoors but make sure there is enough ventilation(opening windows does not mean there is enough ventilation...)
2)paint the model before building it or build some of the parts which have the same color (for example, an arm or the torso, or the legs)
3)do not buy cheap airbrushes... some of them are for one time use only then boom! it does not work anymore...

:amuse

[staradderdragoon]

question: what is a conversion kit? ive never heard of one...and this has probably already been said before, but how do u do the black lines on the models?

[darksage78]

Just use a really thin/fine black micron or Gundam marker to do the black lines. Another way is to fill it up with a black marker and then let it dry a bit and then use a dab of paper towel with methanol to wipe away the excess.

[yangxu]

Mindless is the one who is the expert for airbrushes... but i do have experience in using an airbrush... here are some of my tips for you...

1)paint indoors but make sure there is enough ventilation(opening windows does not mean there is enough ventilation...)
2)paint the model before building it or build some of the parts which have the same color (for example, an arm or the torso, or the legs)
3)do not buy cheap airbrushes... some of them are for one time use only then boom! it does not work anymore...

:amuse

Thanks for your tips ssouske, I'll keep them in mind, oh and one more question if you don't mind answering ;), when I paint, is it mandatory to use primers? I heard they alter the base color a bit, other than that, does it have any other functions? Thanks again.

[ssouske]

well using primer is an option... i don't use primer because im kinda lazy... but if you want, you can... i think kiba said in a previous post that he used to use primer in the past but stoped doing so when he didn't see any significant difference in the models he made w/o using primer...

[Donkey Show]

Yeah, I never found any real difference with primers unless you're going for a really crazy off color. As for the black lines, there's a nice little trick you can use with the Gundam Markers. After drawing the black lines in, take a plastic eraser or even a regular eraser and clean up the lines so that they aren't so wide. Works wonders. ^^

[Donkey Show]

I think this thread deserves a bump.

I finished my little project. XD

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack1.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack2.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack3.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack4.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack5.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikenoir3.jpg

[PATMAN]

omg the last one o_o *splooges*

[Donkey Show]

LOL, yeah I never realized how big the 1/60s were in comparison to the 1/100s. It was rather shocking when I put them up next to each other. XD

[ssouske]

question: what is a conversion kit? ive never heard of one...and this has probably already been said before, but how do u do the black lines on the models?

sorry for not replying earlier...

conversion kits are basically kits that have arms, legs, wings, heads, etc, that you use to convert an excisting model to make it look like a different model... some are actually made by bandai's B-club, and some are done by other companies... usually the price is either same as the model, or a little bit more expensive than the model... if im not mistaken, there is a conversion kit for the HG 1/100Buster Gundam to make it look like a buster dagger... so all you do is remove the arms, legs, head, and some other parts from the buster model and use the ones available in the conversion kit and voila! you get the Buster Dagger...

there was a popular Strike Freedom conversion kit for the MG freedom but it was discontinued... it was believed that bandai was going to release an MG SF because of the discontinuation of the kit but nothing has been released since...

@DS
nice PG strike... it really looks great and... sinister:P

[NU-KazeKage]

I think this thread deserves a bump.

I finished my little project. XD

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack1.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack2.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack3.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack4.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikeblack5.jpg

http://www.daviddino.com/pictures/strikenoir3.jpg




what kind of paint did you use for that and where do you get gundam markers and air brushes

[Mindless]

I supposed he just used any normal enamel or acrylic paint (Humbrol or Tamiya for example) thinned out with some airbrush thinner.

Gundam markers? HobbyLink Japan (www.hlj.com) has them. They got airbrushes too. But keep in mind that you need a constant airflow to the airbrush, so you would either have to invest in pressurised air canisters or a compressor and that could range anywhere from a few dollars to a few hundred dollars.

Anyway.

Glad to see that some are still around here, been kind of inactive myself lately, mainly hanging around real (no offense to this one) gundam modeling forums such as Child of Mecha.

Here's the current thing I'm working on. Building it for a contest on a Gunpla Modeling forum.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3655/p8020041ih3.jpg

Done some changes since I took that picture though, removed the spikes on the knees for example since they just didn't fit in. I also started modding the feet to give them a nicer look.

Oh. Forgot to say. Donkey: Love the Strike. Now you just need the backpack for it.

[NU-KazeKage]

I supposed he just used any normal enamel or acrylic paint (Humbrol or Tamiya for example) thinned out with some airbrush thinner.

Gundam markers? HobbyLink Japan (www.hlj.com) has them. They got airbrushes too. But keep in mind that you need a constant airflow to the airbrush, so you would either have to invest in pressurised air canisters or a compressor and that could range anywhere from a few dollars to a few hundred dollars.

Anyway.

Glad to see that some are still around here, been kind of inactive myself lately, mainly hanging around real (no offense to this one) gundam modeling forums such as Child of Mecha.

Here's the current thing I'm working on. Building it for a contest on a Gunpla Modeling forum.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3655/p8020041ih3.jpg

Done some changes since I took that picture though, removed the spikes on the knees for example since they just didn't fit in. I also started modding the feet to give them a nicer look.

Oh. Forgot to say. Donkey: Love the Strike. Now you just need the backpack for it.
thanks ...and cant i just blow on the airbrush instead of spending money on a compressor

[Mindless]

thanks ...and cant i just blow on the airbrush instead of spending money on a compressor

Sorry, just not possible. :wink

[NU-KazeKage]

oh okay thanks any way...ill just stick to using paintbrushes then..oh do you know if using paint from games work shop is any good for gundams

[Ha-ri]

Plastic paints work well, Arcyic paint or something.

[NU-KazeKage]

this is going to sound very stupid ..how do you tell if its acrylic or somthing else..it dosnt say on the package....

edit:never mind i figured it out

[staradderdragoon]

here's a question, what is the highest grade version for strike freedom, freedom, and legend? cause i'm thinking about buying a new model, but i dont want to spend money on an HG.

[ssouske]

so far the best model grades you can get both of those are the HG 1/100's... BUT! you can spend money on an MG freedom then scour the internet for one of those high quality conversion kits for MG Freedom to MG SF... if you do that though, its like buying 2 MG kits because the conversion kit would usually be as expensive, or sometimes, even more expensive than the model you're gonna convert...

[Donkey Show]

so far the best model grades you can get both of those are the HG 1/100's... BUT! you can spend money on an MG freedom then scour the internet for one of those high quality conversion kits for MG Freedom to MG SF... if you do that though, its like buying 2 MG kits because the conversion kit would usually be as expensive, or sometimes, even more expensive than the model you're gonna convert...
Actually, conversion kits cost twice as much as the base kit you're upgrading. :sweatdrop

[Mindless]

Actually, conversion kits cost twice as much as the base kit you're upgrading. :sweatdrop

Actually, they mostly cost 3-5 times the actual base kit price. But yeah, they are very expensive.

If you feel like buying one of thoes (Core-Works Strike Freedom, Vicious Projects Destiny, etc.) you better be prepared for alot of work. Eventhough both the companies are well known for their high-quality molds, resin kits still involve alot more work than any typical injection plastic kit. You might have to re-shape deformed parts and things like that. Resin kits also require extensive cleaning. If you don't clean (typically done with alcohols like Aceton) the parts properly (before priming), the paint just wont stick to the plastic.

So, my answer would be: Unless you are a fairly experienced modeler who knows a thing or two about resin kits, or kits in general for that matter, I wouldn't consider getting a resin kit. So you're better off with the HG's.

And honestly, the HG's aren't that bad. I bought a Legend for a friend of mine when I ordered a resin kit and a gundam for myself, and it seemed like a nice kit. Sure, it lacks some of the details a typical MG would have but it wasn't a bad kit in any way. In my opinion, you're probably better off waiting for a MG to pop up, because I'm sure one will. Sooner or later. Freedom does have a MG kit though and from what I've seen and heard, it's a very good kit with lots of potential.

Here's the resin kit I bought by the way. A LED Mirage from Five Star Stories. Costs about 6½ times your average MG kit.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3921/dscn27067mj.jpg

Probably the most difficult model I've built to date. You need to pin everything together with metal pins, drill all holes yourself, etc. etc. That picture is quite old however. Changed the pose a bit (yes, they are 1-pose only, no movement at all) and started priming the kit, so right now it's in a box.

[staradderdragoon]

alrite, thanks alot. i'll probably end up getting the MG freedom. one question, i only have enough luggage space for one gundam, so if i couldnt get the freedom, whats the best gundam you guys would suggest getting within reasonable cost? say like 50 dollars USD max?

[Mindless]

Uhm... if you can't get a hold of a MG Freedom, get a MG Nu Gundam. Great kit.

Another WIP picture from my contest build.

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/5983/imgp0536fj9.jpg

[staradderdragoon]

about the other models though, i'm more of a 1/100 size guy, just because i like the size, but it seems like only the 1/100 HG legend looks nice. the strike freedom looks weird for some reason.
thanks mindless for the suggestion, that kit, i can get. im thinking about one of the zeta or EXS models, though they're either out of them, or just plain too pricy

EDIT: 1/60 HG Freedom, or 1/100 MG Freedom. so hard to decide.
btw, mindless, u mean the Nu Gundam, or the Hi Nu Gundam? Cause the Hi Nu looks sweet but im not sure which one ur talking about.

[Mindless]

The 1/100 HG Legend is a good kit. Haven't built it myself but I've had all the parts infront of me and looked over them carefully (only to sell it to a friend...) and it seemed like a nice build. Of course, since it isn't a MG kit, some details are very undefined, such as the lasers on the funnels. They are tiny (about 2mm long and maybe 1mm wide) and are supposed to be painted red, somehow. However, that's the only shortcoming of the kit I could notice by looking at the kit.

The Strike Freedom does indeed look weird, it seems to be very bulky and looks quite small when compared to the other 1/100 Destiny HG's.

And I meant the Nu Gundam. The Hi Nu Gundam is a conversion kit for the MG Nu Gundam, and that conversion kit is (or was, not for sale anymore at HLJ) about $250 from HLJ. It's definately a awsome looking kit, but unless you have long experience with regular injection plastic kits and/or resin kits, I wouldn't suggest buying it.

Regarding the 1/60 RD (not HG :P) Freedom: Don't buy it whatever you do, unless of course you're making some kind of PG Freedom kitbash from it. They lack alot of detail (eventhough they are very proportional) and are very quick to put together (not very partsy). So my advice is still: If you can't get the MG Freedom, get the MG Nu Gundam.

If you want a Zeta kit, try out the 2.0 version of either the Zeta or the Mk.II's. Don't know much about the Ex-S kit. I know it's huge, but I can't tell you anything about the kit.

[ssouske]

quick news bit from gunota:

HY2M Gundam
Press release by Bandai announced they are taking orders for 1/12 scale RX-78-2 Gundam. The model is 1.5 meters tall and costs 350,000 yen. Targeted at 20-40 year old male, the model comes out on Dec 16. The model will be on display at this year's Chara Hobby Expo. 5 years ago, Bandai released the MS-06S Char Zaku model, which was priced at 207,900 yen. That model sold about 1,500 units.
pics from gunota's link (http://uc0079.jp/hy2m_gundam_2006.html)

gah i know its a bit old but good god! A 1/12 scale model is definitely HUGE!!!

[Mindless]

About 5" (150cm or so) I hear.

[Donkey Show]

Uhm... if you can't get a hold of a MG Freedom, get a MG Nu Gundam. Great kit.

Another WIP picture from my contest build.

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/5983/imgp0536fj9.jpg
It looks like you're trying to make 7th Gundam out of that kit. That's pretty interesting. ^^

And Staradder... my personal opinion, if you're gonna go 1/60, best go for PG. Articulation and sheer detail of PGs are awesome. Just get the MG Freedom. =P As for SEED units, I'm gonna kitbash a 1/100 Sword Impulse and 1/100 Destiny to make a Destiny Impulse unit. ^^

And mmmm, I just pre-ordered the MG 1/100 Crossbone Gundam X-1. =D

[Mindless]

Actually, I'm not trying to do any RX-78-MSV. :P

I thought about it at first but I went with my own take of the RX-78-2 since it seemed like too much of a hassle to scratchbuild all thoes parts that are needed for the various RX-78-MSVs.

Also been thinking about the Crossbone, but I'm more tempted by a Schpeltor from Five Star Stories. Sure, it costs like five times as much, but hey, it looks five times as good.

[Donkey Show]

Yikes, as much as those things are awesome, they're way too rich for my blood. XD

Anyway, looks like I'm gonna go forward with a Destiny Impulse mod. Dunno if I should go for a Lunamaria Custom or even go for a black Stellar Louissier Custom. O_O I might give it more melee capabilities too since I'll probably get that new 1/100 IJ kit too.

[Wangerman]

Heres my Perfect Grade Gundam Strike I built a few months back. This is definitely the most articulate PG out there.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9189/dsc02224qx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8746/dsc02227xo0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3258/dsc02228ox0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5498/dsc02231cx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Mindless]

Is that one straight out of the box?

[staradderdragoon]

well, i was able to get the MG Freedom. i had to search the entire island of Hong Kong just to find it. 29 dollars though, so it was good. I also found the zetas, but they were twice as much as Freedom, and the box was like twice as big. cant fit it in the luggage and too bulky for carry-on. thanks everyone for their opinions. about touch up though, i got the black lining marker, but how should i touch up everything else like the silver for the hydraulics and red lining in the vents? would you guys suggest paint (what type?), or touch up markers? another thing, how long do those black lining markers usually last?

EDIT: wangerman, that PG strike looks tight. ur a lucky guy. has anyone made the MG FAZZ model? i found it after i bought the freedom and it somehow made me have second thoughts. of course, its too late but im curious

[Wangerman]

Is that one straight out of the box?

No, I spray painted the armor and inked, then topcoated. But the decals came with the box.

[Mindless]

OK. Looks good. :amuse

[Vegitto-kun]

I feel like such a noob XD All I got is ZGMF-X425 Destiny gundam :laugh 1/100th scale I think, no idea about grades or whatever, took me like 10 hours to finish XD I didn't do anything special, just took out the parts out of the frame and put them together

[ssouske]

EDIT: wangerman, that PG strike looks tight. ur a lucky guy. has anyone made the MG FAZZ model? i found it after i bought the freedom and it somehow made me have second thoughts. of course, its too late but im curious
if im not mistaken, chillin posted a pic of his MG FAZZ in the early days of this thread... though i think that one is the white sentinel version... but still its the same FAZZ in white and blue...

[Mindless]

Been thinking about buying the FAZZ myself but other investments have kept me from it. And my undying love for the Nu Gundam kind of pushes all the other kits to the side. :P

Just by looking at the design you can tell it should have at least some balance issues. The bulkiness of the body, backpack and Mega Launcher tells you that instantly. The Mega Launcher alone is about 30cm long (and it's has quite the diameter too). Also, the kit weighs about 1.4kg, so yeah, I can see at least some problems with building it, at least if you want to do a proper job with it (filling seams, etc.).

HLJ has a bit of a warning with this kit too: "Be forewarned! Getting him to pose with that monster on his shoulder is a bit of a challenge, but it can be done."

[Donkey Show]

I was about to get the FAZZ and the EX-S MGs at Anime Expo this year, but the PG Strike called to me instead. Though that Hyper Mega Launcher is just insane though. O_o

I'm currently working on a MG Zeta plus C1 and am going for a color scheme similar to this.

http://www.hlj.com/images/ban/ban919757.jpg

I'm thinking about making some custom decals too, but we'll see how that goes. XD

I think from now on though, I'll be going with kitbashes and custom colors. Ever since I did my custom PG Strike and also "started" the Destiny Impulse bash, it just seems that much more fun and interesting than going by the numbers.

[NU-KazeKage]

i dont want to sound stupid but im just starting what is ink used for

[Mindless]

i dont want to sound stupid but im just starting what is ink used for

Ink is mostly used to do washes (to get various weathering effects) and panel lines. A must when using ink is that the surface is very gloss, else it will stick to the surface quite easily.

[staradderdragoon]

yeah, that gun on the FAZZ is just huge, kinda like the rx-78 gpo2a gun. couple of questions, one is about the stickers, how do u get them off the sheet, and the second is, how do u get rid of the seams? is it just me, or is even the thinnest gundam marker too thick? btw, donkey show, ur eraser trick works like magic. though im having a little bit of trouble trying to time how long it takes to dry.

[Mindless]

couple of questions, one is about the stickers, how do u get them off the sheet, and the second is, how do u get rid of the seams? is it just me, or is even the thinnest gundam marker too thick? btw, donkey show, ur eraser trick works like magic. though im having a little bit of trouble trying to time how long it takes to dry.

You take them off the sheet using a sharp object of some kind (knife for example) and lift the sticker, that's how I do it, but I normally use waterslides. Stickers give nasty contours.

How to get rid of seams? Well, to be honest with you, there are a million different techniques. I use normal liquid glue (from Humbrol) to remove mine. I simply apply it over the seam (quite richly since it must create a kind of weld), then I leave it do dry overnight. Then the next day I sand it down and fill any inconsistencies with putty and then sand that down.

In my opinion, gundam markers arent that great. I use them sometimes, but I have trouble getting good results. They either feed you too much paint or too little. I usually make a wash using pastel chalk, water and a bit of soap, and brush this over the panel lines and leave it to dry for a while, then I rub of any excess with a moist cloth or paper. Drying on the gundam markers is pretty much instant as far as I know. For me it becomes hard to remove just after a few seconds.

[Donkey Show]

Glad I could help star! Like I said earlier, you can erase the Gundam marker lines and mistakes with a plastic eraser when you put it on. But like you said, it's better when the surface is somewhat gloss or you're gonna have a mess erasing. It just takes time to get the hang of it.

[NU-KazeKage]

Ink is mostly used to do washes (to get various weathering effects) and panel lines. A must when using ink is that the surface is very gloss, else it will stick to the surface quite easily.
thanks and gundam markers are for just overall coloring right do they look better than when you paint it

[Mindless]

thanks and gundam markers are for just overall coloring right do they look better than when you paint it

I suppose you could use them for coloring in general but I wouldn't say it looks better than when painting with an airbrush / handbrush.

I (sometimes) use Gundam Markers for panel lines, but I prefer using pastels, since they come in a much wider variety of colors.

[NU-KazeKage]

I suppose you could use them for coloring in general but I wouldn't say it looks better than when painting with an airbrush / handbrush.

I (sometimes) use Gundam Markers for panel lines, but I prefer using pastels, since they come in a much wider variety of colors.
cool thanks again

[staradderdragoon]

alrite, thanks mindless, i'll try that glue thing. i've already built the entire model, im just putting decals on right now. one thing i cant figure out, is how to get the stubs off. like the part where the peice joins the plastic tree. am i supposed to use sandpaper or something?

[Mindless]

First, I use a pair of pliers to remove the part from the tree (leaving about 1-1.5mm of the tree left on the part) then I use a scalpel / knife to cut the rest off. It all depends though. If the sprue (tree) is thin, I usually use the scalpel to cut it off, but sometimes I use sticks with sandpaper on to sand them down.

It's all up to personal preference really.

And if you're planning on gluing, I sure hope you are going to paint it afterwards. Because gluing a out of box kit isn't the greatest idea if you want it to look good.

[Donkey Show]

With Gundam Markers, I suggest you don't use them for overall painting. The paint in them is very runny and the tip on each of them doesn't really work too well when attempting to paint small parts. The only real use I have for them is to have exact colors for certain parts, which is less of a hassle than mixing colors to achieve the right one. For example, I have a set of Gundam markers which are used specifically for Strike Gundam. I just bleed the Gundam markers and use a fine hobby brush to paint the colors on.

[staradderdragoon]

I see. hopefully, I'll be done soon, so I can post pics of it! I'm still putting decals on but i'll have to do some of the finer touch ups. I guess about the glue thing then, i cant do much cause i dont have paint. I already spent forever convincing my parents to let me buy the Gundam and the touch up marker so I doubt i can get the paint. oh well

[sadoku]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE GUNDAM MODELS!! can one of u be my ffiend?! Im a newbie here---

The stupid boring place I live---Ireland---dont have gundam models,,,because the people are so stupid and dont even know what is anime and manga---------------------I think for me is so hard to make friend -_-
Im chinese---Whenever I go back to Hong Kong for holiday,,,,,
I BUY SO MANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My collection---
1. Blitz(1/100)
2.Freedom(1/100) MG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3.Savior(1/144)HG
4.Abyss(1/144)HG
5.Strike Freedom(1/144)HG...I really want the LIGHTNING EDDITION!!!!!!!!!*drools*
6.Destiny(1/144)HG
And lots of Gashapon ones
Also, I collect the Gundam Seed and Destiny characters figure things---Also none in boring Ireland -_-

[ssouske]

well... you really don't need to go to hong kong just to buy models. you can go and buy models online though i think shipping will be a major problem. just ask mindless how long it took for his MG zeta and nu gundam to arrive from HLJ.

[Mindless]

I have the Lightning Edition, it's quite boring actually.'

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/8189/img06213bh.jpg

[staradderdragoon]

but its soooooo much cheaper in HK than anywhere else. i got the MG freedom for 29 USD. there's no tax. actually, after i bought it, i found it again for 27. so, not bad. but stuff like the FAZZ was around 37-38 USD. still, not bad. i mean, PG strike was a little less than 100 USD. and paints and markers and stuff are all 1 dollar each so....you know

[darksage78]

lol What I tell ya staradderdragoon ^_^ No tax rocks, though they're thinking of implementing it. I'll probably go back during Xmas time and round up whatever I can...

Man I'm so lazy right now, I haven't even started my Infinite Justice kit, probably this Sunday I'll start, who knows when I'll finish...

[staradderdragoon]

yeah no tax is sooo good. i'm going back this winter too! funny. ever since school started, i havent gotten around to finishing my MG freedom......oh well

[ssouske]

shoudn't it be cheaper in japan since there is no importation taxes and freight expenses? :P anyway, yeah its definitely cheaper if you do not have taxes and shipping expenses to worry.

[darksage78]

Dunno, never been to Japan... yet... But from what I've heard the latest electronics are more expensive in Japan and a lot cheaper in HK(if you know where to go) Plus I don't know how to speak Japanese, if you can speak Chinese you can haggle depending on the store you're in or get some free stuff which is always nice :)

[Mindless]

Dunno, never been to Japan... yet... But from what I've heard the latest electronics are more expensive in Japan and a lot cheaper in HK(if you know where to go) Plus I don't know how to speak Japanese, if you can speak Chinese you can haggle depending on the store you're in or get some free stuff which is always nice :)

That's nice. Wonder if my Japanese skills would be enough to cut myself a better deal on some kits if I went to Japan...

[ssouske]

well, it really depends where you buy the stuff... if you buy in a major city, then it would be more expensive because of the taxes imposed in major cities in japan like tokyo, kyoto, etc. but i heard that models are a cheap in akihabara. you just need to find the stores that sell them at a low price.

[darksage78]

Definitely more expensive if its in a major city. As for Akihabara, I've heard its cheap too. I've also heard some stores have random big brown bags that you can buy for a set value and inside is a random bunch of collectables ranging from diecast to other things like Gunpla.

[Donkey Show]

Schweet, I'm going to Tokyo around Christmas time this year so I'll check out the stores for some Gunpla. I know they've been selling Destiny models at outrageously slashed prices, so this'll be a fun trip for me. >=D

[Vegitto-kun]

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20380.jpg

Booya my crappy model =/

Normally he has a energy shield on his left arm but the yellow thingie to connect it is waaay to small

[2Shea]

Lol is that the 1/100 or 1/144? I really can't tell o.o

Anyway, I really need to post my updated collection of models, god I've got so many now I don't have anywhere to set them up o.o

[Mindless]

http://gcustom.fc2web.com/kyarahobby13.jpg

Yay. 1/100 HG Saviour coming out this year.

[staradderdragoon]

i always assumed that stuff ike gundam models were designed in japan and manufactured in china. cause like when i went to toys r us in HK, they showed all the Japan prices and when i calculated the HK price to USD, the HK price was cheaper. yeah mindless, usually when u can speak to them in the native language, then u can get better deals. i know that in terms of electronics, it really depends on what ur looking for. if ur looking for like cell phones, HK is definitely cheaper, more specifically at the WanChai computer center. but like cheap computer stuff would be cheaper in china. and then the high end stuff like graphics cards are cheaper in the US. so it all depends

[darksage78]

@staradderdragoon, go to Sham Sui Po for cheap electronics. Everything from 1.5 PSPs to whatever you can think of. And they do the bargain thing too especially if you know them ^__^

@Mindless, nice pic, where is that from a toy show? I'm looking forward to that kit XD Hopefully a 1/100 HG Abyss will be released too.

[ssouske]

hmmm... so far i think nothing has been changed to the 1/100 HG compared to its smaller 1/144 bro... i just hope those 2 cannons at the back can be properly used unlike in the 1/144... when deployed, i hope it should be in the lower hip area and not in the torso area...

[staradderdragoon]

i dunno darksage. at the wanchai computer center, i mean, i found a white psp for 125 USD. thats kinda hard to beat. i mean, that was the sticker price.

[Ha-ri]

Well I've followen way behind on my models and haven't been able to start any, and with school starting soon I don't think I'll be able to start any for a while.

[darksage78]

@staradderdragoon, what version OS was it? They've got stockpiles of 1.5s over at Sham Shui Po

@Ha-ri I haven't built mine either yet, stupid driving school... I really want to build Infi Justice before school starts :(

[Vegitto-kun]

Lol is that the 1/100 or 1/144? I really can't tell o.o

Anyway, I really need to post my updated collection of models, god I've got so many now I don't have anywhere to set them up o.o
1/100

currently i are building

http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/d2/14/ba_1.JPG

got the torso, head and right arm ready


oh yeah I saw this one today at the shop, perfect grade and this BIIIG silvery box @___@

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000AARKDK.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_V57103194_.jpg

[ssouske]

1/100

currently i are building

http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/d2/14/ba_1.JPG

got the torso, head and right arm ready


oh yeah I saw this one today at the shop, perfect grade and this BIIIG silvery box @___@

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000AARKDK.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_V57103194_.jpg

hey... thats not PG WZC's box... now this is the PG WZC box...:P
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5401/pgwinggundamzerocustomid3.gif

[Vegitto-kun]

hey... thats not PG WZC's box... now this is the PG WZC box...:P
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5401/pgwinggundamzerocustomid3.gif
I know I know but i didn't really know the full name so i just took a random pic of the gundam :yell


me want it so badly but its so expensive @__@

[Zektgn]

I've been interested in attempting some of these. I've put together a couple car and plane models before. Does anyone know a website to get these from, and maybe a suggestion on what I should start out with? Are they hard to put together?

p.s. sry if someone already asked this.. this forum is way to long to read through full thing. : /

[darksage78]

You can always try: www.hlj.com
They're not that difficult, all you need is something to get the pieces out of the frames and patience. There is a no grade 1/144 which is like around 10 bucks and bbasically has VERY limited posing and articulation. I suggest starting with the 1/144 HG models, more posibility and takes more time to build. Also you might want to consider buying a thing tipped black marker to do panel lining to get the parts stand out more :)

[Vegitto-kun]

You can always try: www.hlj.com
They're not that difficult, all you need is something to get the pieces out of the frames and patience. There is a no grade 1/144 which is like around 10 bucks and bbasically has VERY limited posing and articulation. I suggest starting with the 1/144 HG models, more posibility and takes more time to build. Also you might want to consider buying a thing tipped black marker to do panel lining to get the parts stand out more :)
I would say just get a 1/100 model XD its not harder just takes longer to complete

I might get a full set of marker stifts but i don't really see the point of them

[darksage78]

Well depends if he wants to go into Gunpla for sure. Try a 1/144 scale to see if he likes it. As for markers, definitely worth the investment, those things rock :)

[staradderdragoon]

darksage, i'm pretty sure it was 1.5. doesnt 1.5 have the web browser?

[ssouske]

hmmm... i think if he is experimenting on how to build one, i guess a 1/100 HG should be the pick... its easy to build... just follow the directions... but if he will experiment on painting, well i guess its better to experiment on a cheaper no grade 1/144... i would not really recommend the HG 1/144 for painting experiments... cuz they're more expensive than the no grade.
i think doing panel lines without paint is not good... it would just look more dirty... paint it first then put panel lines. using a fine tipped gundam marker or a 0.3-0.5 fine tip pen would be a great thing to use for panel lines.

[Vegitto-kun]

hmmm... i think if he is experimenting on how to build one, i guess a 1/100 HG should be the pick... its easy to build... just follow the directions... but if he will experiment on painting, well i guess its better to experiment on a cheaper no grade 1/144... i would not really recommend the HG 1/144 for painting experiments... cuz they're more expensive than the no grade.
i think doing panel lines without paint is not good... it would just look more dirty... paint it first then put panel lines. using a fine tipped gundam marker or a 0.3-0.5 fine tip pen would be a great thing to use for panel lines.
I just didn't understand anything you said XDD

Yay i finished my gundam (apart from the weapons)

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20371.jpg

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20372.jpg

[staradderdragoon]

no panel lines? or am i just blind?

[Wangerman]

I know I know but i didn't really know the full name so i just took a random pic of the gundam :yell


me want it so badly but its so expensive @__@

Just to let you know, the pg wing zero is crap. I have it and it sucks. Fingers fall apart, knee armor breaks, can't even stand up properly, articulation is horrible... and so much more. Even without the wings which weighs like 3 pounds, the wing zero can't even strike a good pose without falling over. This thing is the most retarded gundam!! I have absoluetly no idea why they didn't include a stand for it. For now, I just have it hanging from the ceiling on a piece of string because thats the only thing the dumbass can do. Worst of all, it cost me 150 for this piece of shit!!!

If you really want a PG, then get a pg strike which is basically the best pg model out there, nothing comes close.

[Mindless]

Just to let you know, the pg wing zero is crap. I have it and it sucks. Fingers fall apart, knee armor breaks, can't even stand up properly, articulation is horrible... and so much more. Even without the wings which weighs like 3 pounds, the wing zero can't even strike a good pose without falling over. This thing is the most retarded gundam!! I have absoluetly no idea why they didn't include a stand for it. For now, I just have it hanging from the ceiling on a piece of string because thats the only thing the dumbass can do. Worst of all, it cost me 150 for this piece of shit!!!

If you really want a PG, then get a pg strike which is basically the best pg model out there, nothing comes close.

And, the PG Wing Zero (for some reason) has tons of parts made in rubber. :oh

[Vegitto-kun]

And, the PG Wing Zero (for some reason) has tons of parts made in rubber. :oh
why is rubber bad? o_o

staradderdragoon:

Panel lines?

[Zektgn]

Ok so ordered my first model!! A hg zaku 1/100 scale. One question what language will the directions be in? japanese? or english?

[darksage78]

@ Zektgn,the words will be in Japanese but you don't need to read the words to build it. Its all pictures and stuff with numbers and some Japanese letters, all you have to do is look on the plastic frames and look for the numbered or lettered part.

@Vegitto_kun, aren't there small crevises along some parts on the Ka? Every model has it, people fill it in with black ink with a thin liner pen to make the parts stand out. Looks really nice once its done.

@staradderdragoon, 1.5 doesn't have browser. You need to use the firmwire one.

[Vegitto-kun]

Ok so ordered my first model!! A hg zaku 1/100 scale. One question what language will the directions be in? japanese? or english?
Basicly you get a manual with pictures basicly showing you which part to use and where to place it all, each part has its own number in a frame, there are multiple frames. In the corner of the frame there is a letter and then the parts are numbered so if it says D 20 you need to take frame D and take number 20 out

this is a frame XD

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20368.jpg

About those paint pens I don't really see many grooves in my wing gundam =/

I want to buy mettalic silver and make the knies silver and part of the wings @_@

[Mindless]

The rubber is bad if you want to paint it. Very hard to make a color stick so a soft surface.

[Vegitto-kun]

I guess so XD

whooo finished my wing gundam only need to do the lining (whatever that just is XD) and do the incredible amount of small stickers

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20371.jpg

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20374.jpg

way better pose XD

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20380.jpg

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20381.jpg

But I am having with attaching his cannon to his hand(pic below) =/ When I put the hand around it it just sort of falls down O_o it doesn't stay straight just falls down, i tried many different things none work, they should of made a hole in the hand and like a little piece on the handle so it could like click int, does anybody know how to fix it? =/

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20378.jpg

[darksage78]

Ok not the best pic, but if you look all the black lines on the white are panel lines.
http://image2.gundamshop.co.kr/goods_IMG/Sub1/1_0209_m.gif

[staradderdragoon]

i have that exact model. it sucks though....lol

[Vegitto-kun]

i have that exact model. it sucks though....lol
why I love it only the fucking gun is too big

and is its shield supposed to be like

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20381.jpg

or

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/Picture%20382.jpg

like that energy thingy on the wrist and the shield behind it

[Vegitto-kun]

I got this today XD


http://hobbyworld.aoshima-bk.co.jp/g_library2/BAN/BAN129454.jpg


I want this so badly right now

http://www.hlj.com/images/ban/ban945071.jpg

[staradderdragoon]

hmmm....the pics are a little blurry. cant see them very well. but man, that should be fun. MG Wing Zero Custom.

[Vegitto-kun]

I hate the fact that I got another expensive hobby XD;

[ssouske]

i think you should just stay with the MG wing zero... they say its a bit better than the PG because there are refinements on the articulation, parts, design, etc.

[Vegitto-kun]

I arent planning to get it anyway too expensive XD

[staradderdragoon]

i dunno about that. i mean, i saw the PG wing zero in real life at this one store. it looks absolutely amazing. i would love to get that or strike just for the fun of building it.

[Vegitto-kun]

i dunno about that. i mean, i saw the PG wing zero in real life at this one store. it looks absolutely amazing. i would love to get that or strike just for the fun of building it.
I bet that it looks awesome but

1. too expensive
2. my parents would KILL me for buying something as expensive like that XD

+ I reckon its too much money for some plastic and rubber :oh


And the shopkeeper where i always go to for my anime/manga/figurine/model related stuff laughed at me when I brought in my wing gundam, I really did a crap job at it apparently he felt like hitting me for using sandpaper(or whatever its called) :oh I didn't know that you could use some sort of knife to get rid of the excess plastic >_>

[staradderdragoon]

wait, why did you bring it in? and there's a knife you can use? what?!?!? damn, i could use that knife...

[Vegitto-kun]

wait, why did you bring it in? and there's a knife you can use? what?!?!? damn, i could use that knife...
Basicly because of the stickers on the wing gundam ^^; I really have unstead hands and I will probably mess them up but he gave me some tip with tape where you put tape ontop of the sticker to get it off the paper and place it like that on the gundam then rub the part where the stickers is and pull of the tape and its on perfectly (il probably use something like abit of nail polish to protect it)

So yeah he aint doing the stickers but he is trying to fix up the parts that i scrapped up with the sand paper =/ and doing the panel lines.

I HONESTLY don't get the thing with panel lines do you only do the indents on the model or do you do the place where the two parts connect too? @__@ Does somebody have like a vid or pics to show me WHAT I need to do


And he used this knife(see pic) Basicly he cuts the piece off as close as possbly and gently scraped the extra pastic off leaving NO trail of the plastic whatsoever, he showed me how to and I couldn't see where the extra plastic used to be

http://www.deprijskaart.nl/catalog/images/breekmes.jpg


The shopowner went like "You can have the money but I am NOT allowing you to buy that model on your skill level" when I acted like I was about to get PG wing zero custom XD;;; and he was like "please don't rape this one too" when I bought MG zero custom >_<;

[ssouske]

you used sandpaper on bare plastic... without primer?!? and you experimented on an MG... he should have hit you...:P anyway, it is something which is forgivable because you are a beginer...

for the panel lines, the manual should show where the lines are. if you look at the pics of the fully painted model in the manual, you should be able to see which ones get highlighted...

[Mindless]

Here's an example.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6199/panellinesss9.jpg

You simply fill in thoes lines you see in the left picture using a Gundam Marker or any fine-tip ink marker. If you have unsteady hands (often due to inexperience when handling tools), I'd practice on something else first.

Picture is from a model I'm working on for a contest.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/142/imgp0544ac9.jpg

[Vegitto-kun]

you used sandpaper on bare plastic... without primer?!? and you experimented on an MG... he should have hit you...:P anyway, it is something which is forgivable because you are a beginer...

for the panel lines, the manual should show where the lines are. if you look at the pics of the fully painted model in the manual, you should be able to see which ones get highlighted...
I don't want to start on crappy models :yell

whats primer? o_o

liek who here is gonna get this? XD

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/08/giantgundam.jpg

[Mindless]

Actually Vegitto, the 1/100 HG's are great kits for their price, and a hell lot more expendable than a MG, in case you mess them up in some way.

What primer is? Well, it's like a base paint that you spray onto your kit before you actually paint it the colors you want it. Some kits do not need priming, but lets say you've done alot of modding on a kit and want to see uneven areas that need further work before painting, it's a good idea to prime the kit. Generally, for injection plastic kits (gundam models) you don't need to prime them. Simply wash them with some soap and water and wipe off the parts and leave them to dry for a while if you want a 'clean' (no grease from fingers, etc.) surface before painting (so the paint sticks properly).

I suggest you take a look over at Swanny's (http://www.swannysmodels.com/Tools.html) for some general building tips, because really, you seem to lack the general knowledge one should have before jumping into model building (and want satisfying results). I'm not trying to offend you in anyway, just trying to help.

As for that 1/12 RX-78-2 Gundam, well, standing like 155cm tall, it will cost you a total of 300 000 Yen ($2550). Think that was the retail price, can't remember.

[darksage78]

Sorry about the webcam quality but what I got of Infinite Justice so far. Other parts are currently drying right now, hope to finish it in a day or two.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/darksage_78/justice.jpg

[Vegitto-kun]

Actually Vegitto, the 1/100 HG's are great kits for their price, and a hell lot more expendable than a MG, in case you mess them up in some way.

What primer is? Well, it's like a base paint that you spray onto your kit before you actually paint it the colors you want it. Some kits do not need priming, but lets say you've done alot of modding on a kit and want to see uneven areas that need further work before painting, it's a good idea to prime the kit. Generally, for injection plastic kits (gundam models) you don't need to prime them. Simply wash them with some soap and water and wipe off the parts and leave them to dry for a while if you want a 'clean' (no grease from fingers, etc.) surface before painting (so the paint sticks properly).

I suggest you take a look over at Swanny's (http://www.swannysmodels.com/Tools.html) for some general building tips, because really, you seem to lack the general knowledge one should have before jumping into model building (and want satisfying results). I'm not trying to offend you in anyway, just trying to help.

As for that 1/12 RX-78-2 Gundam, well, standing like 155cm tall, it will cost you a total of 300 000 Yen ($2550). Think that was the retail price, can't remember.
I am not really planning to paint my models you know @_@ All I am gonna do is put it together put stickers on and do the lines and thats it

[staradderdragoon]

lol. vegitto, i like the way you think....no but actually, cause of stupid school, i dont have much time.....but anyhow, i was like forget it. i'll post the pics of freedom.....so here.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9103/dsc00003bf1.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00003bf1.jpg)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8250/dsc00004lq7.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00004lq7.jpg)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8494/dsc00006qk4.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00006qk4.jpg)

eh, quality isnt too bad i guess. its from my phone so, cant complain. still havent done the water based decals....lol

EDIT: didnt realize the xenon flash was that strong....damn. i'll post more pics later i guess......with an actual digital camera

[Vegitto-kun]

lol. vegitto, i like the way you think....no but actually, cause of stupid school, i dont have much time.....but anyhow, i was like forget it. i'll post the pics of freedom.....so here.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9103/dsc00003bf1.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00003bf1.jpg)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8250/dsc00004lq7.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00004lq7.jpg)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8494/dsc00006qk4.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00006qk4.jpg)

eh, quality isnt too bad i guess. its from my phone so, cant complain. still havent done the water based decals....lol

EDIT: didnt realize the xenon flash was that strong....damn. i'll post more pics later i guess......with an actual digital camera
I saw that one at the shop I go to in like the stand infront of his shop.

The only thing I might paint are stuff like miscolored cannons but i doubt you need paint for that and I guess i should just get markers

I wanted to get metallic silver and use it on some parts of my wing gundam, the shop keeper kept me from buying it since I would probably "rape" the gundam even more then I had done


Currently he fixed the head completely, he is taking it apart completely and reasembaling it, doing the lines and fixing my mess >_>

[staradderdragoon]

wait, so like he's building it for you? wow. he's like over protective. its all about the fun, really.....yeah, i got the silver marker. its alrite. i paid like a dollar for it, so it wasnt too bad. though, i think using paint is better. there arent really any miscolored parts, since it is MG. overall, i like it. you gotta show me the pics of the wing zero and take a good pictuer of the finished wing gundam.

[Donkey Show]

i dunno about that. i mean, i saw the PG wing zero in real life at this one store. it looks absolutely amazing. i would love to get that or strike just for the fun of building it.
Get the Strike, it's by far the best PG ever.

I'm gonna purchase the resin PG ISWP pack for it from G-System soon. He he he... :nod

[Vegitto-kun]

wait, so like he's building it for you? wow. he's like over protective. its all about the fun, really.....yeah, i got the silver marker. its alrite. i paid like a dollar for it, so it wasnt too bad. though, i think using paint is better. there arent really any miscolored parts, since it is MG. overall, i like it. you gotta show me the pics of the wing zero and take a good pictuer of the finished wing gundam.
I don't have a camera so yeaaah all i can do is webcam quality pics


Nono I made the model but he is now fixing the crap I did wrong ^^; some parts were really damaged by the sand paper so he is trying to fix it all

[staradderdragoon]

hooooooooooooooooooooooooo............that looks so gorgeous......i want it!!!! unfortunately, i dont have that kinda of money. its like 200.....damn. but so high quality. if i get a PG, i just may get the strike then. now if there were a PG of S-Freedom......i wonder....

Edit: ooh thats cool. u get to build it, and even if u screw it up, someone'll fix it. does he charge you?

Edit: anybody have a list of all the conversion kits? i would just like to see them all.

[Vegitto-kun]

hooooooooooooooooooooooooo............that looks so gorgeous......i want it!!!! unfortunately, i dont have that kinda of money. its like 200.....damn. but so high quality. if i get a PG, i just may get the strike then. now if there were a PG of S-Freedom......i wonder....

Edit: ooh thats cool. u get to build it, and even if u screw it up, someone'll fix it. does he charge you?

Edit: anybody have a list of all the conversion kits? i would just like to see them all.
He does it for free :oh Basicly he is teachine me all the stuff XD il suprise him tommorow with my skill increase >_> So far I haven't damaged the parts so im still all good Maybe Il buy one of his zaku's tommorow XD which one should I get

[staradderdragoon]

i wish i had a mentor....:( but thats awesome. i wanna get a conversion kit so bad!!!!! i just love that Hi-Nu model!

[Vegitto-kun]

i wish i had a mentor....:( but thats awesome. i wanna get a conversion kit so bad!!!!! i just love that Hi-Nu model!
XD; he is pretty harsh sometimes saying that he almost wants to hit me for using sand paper on it and that I raped the model XD And almost refusing me to sell me wing zero custom and whispering "i wish you good luck zero" when I paid him :yell xD

il probably never get a conversion kit I don't have the money for it and i wouldn't be able to find one XD

[staradderdragoon]

that's funny. hopefully, once my family relocates to Hong kong, i'll be able to find someone that can teach me to become pro at modeling. though, the main thing we talk about is how cheap i can get it at other stores...lol

[Vegitto-kun]

that's funny. hopefully, once my family relocates to Hong kong, i'll be able to find someone that can teach me to become pro at modeling. though, the main thing we talk about is how cheap i can get it at other stores...lol
Feel free to ship some to me :P


Damnit now I got another hobby :yell


I am gonna make this one my best, I am currently putting panel lines on its neck

[staradderdragoon]

the zero custom? i think i spent about 10 hrs doing the panel lines for freedom. i think it was 10. maybe more or less. but holy cow, it makes such a difference. donkey show had this weird trick were you draw it using the marker, then using an eraser to thin it. worked like a charm. i think freedom will be my last model until i move out on my own. my mom's constantly nagging at me at how its a waste of money, time, and space.....lol. arent all hobbies though?

[Vegitto-kun]

the zero custom? i think i spent about 10 hrs doing the panel lines for freedom. i think it was 10. maybe more or less. but holy cow, it makes such a difference. donkey show had this weird trick were you draw it using the marker, then using an eraser to thin it. worked like a charm. i think freedom will be my last model until i move out on my own. my mom's constantly nagging at me at how its a waste of money, time, and space.....lol. arent all hobbies though?
XD; I currently am having problems with this bit which is basicly around its neck and the lines arent really indented enough so I go out and i remove it and start over like 10 times XD

Oh well you don't really see that bit that much


my parents think its a waste of money and childish and that everything drawn is for 8 year olds =D

[staradderdragoon]

lol. but on the subject of panel lines, are the lines indented at all? cause waht i did, was wait till the ink dried, then used an eraser to rub the excess off.

[darksage78]

staradderdragoon, lucky bum relocating to HK. They've got lotsa contests for Gundam kit building so it won't be hard to find someone to teach you. Just speak the language ^__^ They have a lot of advertisements on contests at TRU and Jusco in HK in the toy section. As for how cheap you can get it, my friend says there's a really cheap Gundam store that has lots of kits from old UC to present like stocks of them. I'll ask him where it is once he gets back, still in HK that bum... btw nice job on the MG Freedom, I loved that kit.

[staradderdragoon]

haha, thanks. still not done though. as for HK, well im not. my parents are cause of job.im going to college in the states. but yeah, i couldnt find that jusco store....doesnt matter. i went to this like back alley where everything is crazy and all kinds of fake purses are sold. i found this really tiny shop and found freedom there. i dunno where the store ur friend is talking about is. the street i went to is like tai yuen street?

edit: is there like a cell phone tech thread anywhere? i cant find one

[Vegitto-kun]

lol. but on the subject of panel lines, are the lines indented at all? cause waht i did, was wait till the ink dried, then used an eraser to rub the excess off.
Well basicly there are lines that are on the box but aren't indented so its hard since my hand isnt the steadiest ever so its hard to make straight lines XD;


I demand a answer to this


tommorow im probably gonna buy one of the zaku's, which os the MG zaku's should I get? <3

[darksage78]

Yeah Tai Yuen has a lot of cheap stuff and in Canton "A Foh" fake stuff. Jusco is a department store lotsa kits in the toy section.

[staradderdragoon]

whoa, i wonder if those are the lines where the piece changes its angle. like the crease or something.

Edit: yeah, well when i go back, i'll find jusco.

[Vegitto-kun]

whoa, i wonder if those are the lines where the piece changes its angle. like the crease or something.

Edit: yeah, well when i go back, i'll find jusco.
look at wing zero customs helmet just above the eye there is this little shape, there is supposed to be lines around it but there is no indent so its hard to do


WHICH ZAKU TO GET :yell

[staradderdragoon]

you have this one right?
http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Epatarirodomarine-ru/gallery_mg_wing0.html

yeah i guess its a little hard.

[Vegitto-kun]

Yes thats the one but the gun turrets on his shoulders are a different color @_@

basicly its this little thing on the side of the head and it has no indents for lines but you have to make lines around it and I really have troubles with it cuz i like start but then the marker goes ON the thing and it looks really crappy =/

Is there something to remove marker lines thare wrong anyway?

and please


for the love of god

which MG zaku should I buy :yell

[Comic Book Guy]

For you guys who paint their models --

Do you paint each piece individually before assembling the model or after model assembly?

[staradderdragoon]

whenever i make a mistake, i use an eraser to rub it off. it works quite well actually. as for the zaku, i would get like the gunner, blaze, phantom, or providence one. though, im not sure if those are sold in MG.

EDIT: well, mindless says for the most realism, paint everything. i assume it would be easier to paint individually then, before you assemble. i dont paint, so....

[ssouske]

@strader
i think he is reffering to the UC MG Zaku IIs:P

@Vegito
i think you should get the Char custom Zaku... anyway, there is not much difference between them, Char's just looks better with that antena thing on the head.

@comic book guy
i actually do both. there are parts which you can build then paint, like part of the limbs, and part of the torso. then there are things which you cannot build and paint like the head. if the part is just painted in one single color, then build that part, and paint it. if not, then separately paint them...

i wish i had pics to show you but... our cam broke.:cry

[Mindless]

It really depends when it comes to painting before or af ter assembly. Me, I prefer doing it after to get rid of all the nasty seamlines I don't want.

As for removing the marker paint: I got no idea since I don't use them. As long as you DON'T use anything that is alcohol-base (some type of thinner) it should be fine. Try the eraser as staradder suggested, I'm sure it should work fine.

And for your own fun, and your models sake, check that page I posted in my last post. He has tons of tips when it comes to what tools and tricks to use.

[staradderdragoon]

@strader
i think he is reffering to the UC MG Zaku IIs:P



yeah i guess...since its MG. but i mean, for those, i would get the Seed Destiny ones. i really like that one that Dearkka pilots...

[Vegitto-kun]

@strader
i think he is reffering to the UC MG Zaku IIs:P

@Vegito
i think you should get the Char custom Zaku... anyway, there is not much difference between them, Char's just looks better with that antena thing on the head.

@comic book guy
i actually do both. there are parts which you can build then paint, like part of the limbs, and part of the torso. then there are things which you cannot build and paint like the head. if the part is just painted in one single color, then build that part, and paint it. if not, then separately paint them...

i wish i had pics to show you but... our cam broke.:cry
I saw this red metallic colored one, it looked so nice @___@

[darksage78]

What's wrong with alcohol to remove paint from markers? I use methanol, works great.

[Mindless]

What's wrong with alcohol to remove paint from markers? I use methanol, works great.

Uh, sorry, let me correct myself a bit. Thinners like dilutin, methanol and stuff like that work as marker removers, but what I meant was don't use thinners that break down the plastic, well, literally melt the plastic.

Can't remember the chemical word for that type of thinner, it's called polyurethane based thinners or something like that.

[Vegitto-kun]

Thats a good thing that I know the last thing I xwould want is a melting wing zero

[ssouske]

I saw this red metallic colored one, it looked so nice @___@
XD you liked the comemorative 10 year aniversary char's zaku?:P i didn't like that one... i was about to buy one in the past but when i saw it was metallic, i was immediately turned off...:amuse

[staradderdragoon]

i saw this really nice looking Gouf Custom at http://www.dannychoo.com/blog_entry/eng/185/Gouf+Custom/

looks tight. but resin kit? i thnk

[Vegitto-kun]

XD you liked the comemorative 10 year aniversary char's zaku?:P i didn't like that one... i was about to buy one in the past but when i saw it was metallic, i was immediately turned off...:amuse
I LOVE metallic shit XD

If there only was a gundam in metallic black :wtf

[ssouske]

XD

well i didn't like the metalic ones because i can't paint it without removing the metalic coat. i prefer my models painted... :amuse

anyway, i was looking at MAHQ today, i noticed in the Gundam SEED Destiny Astray section the black and white Proto Saviour. i liked one of those Proto Saviours that has that huge backpack... it actually looks better than the original saviour. i hope bandai makes a model of that Saviour MSV

[Mindless]

I thought that Gouf Custom looked pretty bad, but that's just me. Thoes huge seams on the shoulders look awful. :oh

Actually, there is a gundam that is partially metallic black, the Golden Frame Amatsu. It's a 1/100 HG kit.

[Vegitto-kun]

I thought that Gouf Custom looked pretty bad, but that's just me. Thoes huge seams on the shoulders look awful. :oh

Actually, there is a gundam that is partially metallic black, the Golden Frame Amatsu. It's a 1/100 HG kit.
HG :cry


I am never gonna bother painting my models XD I don't see the point

[Mindless]

HG :cry


I am never gonna bother painting my models XD I don't see the point

I don't understand where this dislike for the HG kits come from. Seriously, the newer ones are great kits. I bought a 1/100 HG Legend for a friend of mine, and it's quality was close to a MG. And the Amatsu was released close to it so it's a absolutely fresh kit.

And you don't have to paint them, that's why they are molded in color. And the point in painting is getting a more realistic look to them.

[staradderdragoon]

i dunno. the realism maybe? i think that maybe if ur going through al lthis trouble to make it look more realistic, but it doesnt move realistic at all, there's no point. plus, personally, the 1/100 Legend is the only HG one i like. so i see your point there. but with other's like destiny, mugen justice, or s-freedom, no. just dont like them for some reason....

EDIT: finally did all the stuff for freedom. put the final decals on.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5300/dsc00011xo0.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00011xo0.jpg)
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3559/dsc00012up3.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00012up3.jpg)

post more pics, once imageshack doesnt f up. but what do you guys think? i mean, pic quality is good, so you can see the details more clearly than last time. btw, its the same camera phone....so i dunno how come last time it was so blurry

[Vegitto-kun]

I especially don't like it when their hands don't move =/

Would paint help cover up some damaged parts? I mean sometimes i scrapped of abit of the plastic would paint cover it up?

[staradderdragoon]

I especially don't like it when their hands don't move =/

Would paint help cover up some damaged parts? I mean sometimes i scrapped of abit of the plastic would paint cover it up?

i think so. just find painting so troublesome. mainly cause id rather use an airbrush, but i dont have that kind of money.

[Mindless]

I especially don't like it when their hands don't move =/

Would paint help cover up some damaged parts? I mean sometimes i scrapped of abit of the plastic would paint cover it up?

They don't move? :huh

As far as I know, in proportion to the grade of the kits, it's the MG hands that don't move. Some kits just have awful hands. (examples of better hands are the Nu and Kaempfer MG's).

Regarding the paint covering stuff up, well, just by taking a close look at the kit I'm sure many wouldn't notice, but as most people want to admire work of thoes who put tens (maybe hundreds) of hours into their models, I'm sure the flaws would be noticeable anyway, regardless if you paint it or not.

If you damage a part, just painting it won't fix it.

staradder: A nice out of box build. Some close-up pictures would be nice though. :wink

[Vegitto-kun]

They don't move? :huh

As far as I know, in proportion to the grade of the kits, it's the MG hands that don't move. Some kits just have awful hands. (examples of better hands are the Nu and Kaempfer MG's).

Regarding the paint covering stuff up, well, just by taking a close look at the kit I'm sure many wouldn't notice, but as most people want to admire work of thoes who put tens (maybe hundreds) of hours into their models, I'm sure the flaws would be noticeable anyway, regardless if you paint it or not.

If you damage a part, just painting it won't fix it.

staradder: A nice out of box build. Some close-up pictures would be nice though. :wink
I mean the 2 HG's I bought had like hands that don't move and are just two halves the two MG's I bought had 3 movable parts

Anyway for what are the colored gundam markers? XD I saw like mettalic silver and gold and then these packs with 5 of them in it

[staradderdragoon]

these are the only close-ups
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/79/dsc00015nj9.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00015nj9.jpg)
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7813/dsc00022ic3.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00022ic3.jpg)

i dunno what other close-ups you want. just let me know, and i'll get some

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1642/dsc00013ym9.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00013ym9.jpg)
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3770/dsc00014ot9.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00014ot9.jpg)
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9703/dsc00016ck3.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00016ck3.jpg)

yeah, they're all HiMat mode but w/e. looks cool

[staradderdragoon]

limit 6 pics per post so another 5
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2448/dsc00017jn1.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00017jn1.jpg)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9810/dsc00018lr5.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00018lr5.jpg)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/867/dsc00020gw2.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00020gw2.jpg)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6711/dsc00019eb1.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00019eb1.jpg)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6889/dsc00021xs1.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00021xs1.jpg)

EDIT: vegitto, the markers are for coloring the gundam. like the marker i used to do the panel lines were done by a gundam marker. i used a silver one for the little details...

[Vegitto-kun]

how do you guys put on the stickers anyway

[staradderdragoon]

which stickers? there are like stickers sticker, which i used a pocket knife to place them, then there are like these semi-clear stickers, then there are the etching decals which look the best. this site shows you how to do the etching ones. http://www.dannychoo.com/blog_entry/eng/213/Gundam+Modeling+Tutorial/

EDIT: oh yeah, i think it took me like 18 or 20 hrs to build the freedom. the panel lines took the most part obviously. that was the first time i ever done it. i might do some scene where freedom looks like its crushing my V2 gundam's head.....lol...and i found this funny for some reason....dunno why
http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/eng/gundam/495/photo/Gundam+Modeling+Tutorial/

[Vegitto-kun]

which stickers? there are like stickers sticker, which i used a pocket knife to place them, then there are like these semi-clear stickers, then there are the etching decals which look the best. this site shows you how to do the etching ones. http://www.dannychoo.com/blog_entry/eng/213/Gundam+Modeling+Tutorial/

EDIT: oh yeah, i think it took me like 18 or 20 hrs to build the freedom. the panel lines took the most part obviously. that was the first time i ever done it. i might do some scene where freedom looks like its crushing my V2 gundam's head.....lol...and i found this funny for some reason....dunno why
http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/eng/gundam/495/photo/Gundam+Modeling+Tutorial/
Mine has those decals, mine came with 3 sheeps of stickers, one for stuff like eyes and shit

then these are like LOADS of tiny stickers and then those decals

[staradderdragoon]

yeah same here. the loads of tiny stickers are semi clear right? those are the ones that say like Danger! or Caution and shit.

[Vegitto-kun]

I am gonna mess up those stickers SO bad

[staradderdragoon]

thats why u use something small, like tweezers or a knife. no way u can use your hands....

[Vegitto-kun]

how can you hold a small sticking like that with a knife O-o;

[staradderdragoon]

well, i first use a knife to get underneath each piece. then, holding onto the sticker sheet, i pull the sticker away. so part of the sticker is on the tip of the knife, and the rest is hanging off the knife. then i use reference points on the model to center my sticker. i place only part of the sticker on the model so i can shift it around. then i use the blunt side of the knife to flatten it, removing all air bubbles. i dunno if there is a better way

[Vegitto-kun]

My mentor said something about tape some days ago

[staradderdragoon]

use the tape for the etching decals. to hold the decal in place as you etch. i dont see any other way really. make sure when ur cutting out the decal that you dont cut the actuall decal. the border line is hard to see so put it up to the light when u do it.

[Vegitto-kun]

how do the decals work anyway, It doesnt stick or anything @__@


And I am currently down, i cant seem to do any lines except for the indented ones =/

[staradderdragoon]

for the decals, first cut the piece out. then put a peice of tape that covers the whole thing. then place the decal where you want it. then use something, like a flathead screwdriver, and start rubbing from one side to the other. you'll notice that the color changes when u rub on it. once all the color has changed, the decal should be in place. slowly and carefully remove the piece of tape, and it should be done. when i got the MG freedom, i had several decals left over but i figured out how to do it on the first try, so....i ended up using them in other places...lol

[Vegitto-kun]

Today im bringing what is finished of my gundam to my mentor wish me luck :yell

[staradderdragoon]

well, i sure will. you've been ranting on and on about how you've like destroyed it....lol. i wanna see the pics when ur done.

[Vegitto-kun]

He said that its a great improvement over the previous one =D

[staradderdragoon]

very good then. so did u do the etching decals?

[Mindless]

He said that its a great improvement over the previous one =D

Glad to hear it.

[Vegitto-kun]

very good then. so did u do the etching decals?
im not done with the model yet XD; still need to do the legs, guns, rest of waist and shit XD

[staradderdragoon]

oh wow. so ur taking ur time. well at least ur having fun right? thats the whole point

[Vegitto-kun]

I am almost finished just need to make the gun and the stand XD

Oh yeaaah

I got problems with the wings =/ you can like moved them but one of the things that turns is too lose so I cant put the wings up and it just falls down

[Mindless]

Hm... make sure the parts fit properly. I've had that issue sometimes too and it's usually because say, two parts that encloses a polycap joint are too loosley put together.

[darksage78]

Has anyone gotten MG Strike Freedom? If so how is the kit? The design is growing on me, only thing that bothers me now is the stomach cannon >__< lol Also what are the main differences between the burst and the regular versions other than the price point and the shiney gold?

[Vegitto-kun]

it has been SO long since I last made one D;

[darksage78]

Same, I finished only the upper body of my Infinite Justice and I put it on hold as school started. I'll finish it this summer hopefully, I'm considering buying MG Strike Freedom and a couple other Destiny HG kits.

[Mindless]

Regarding the MG Strike Freedom: If you think a few gold plated parts for the joints and the wings are worth the extra money, go for it. I personally don't.

[Vegitto-kun]

God I still want this guy

http://users.telenet.be/Vegitto/ban945071.jpg

[darksage78]

Is that the only difference between burst and MG? I was wondering if there were more. I was going to get the regular MG Strike Freedom.

[staradderdragoon]

i'm debating between SF and Strike with the ISWP. both MG of course. just dunno

[Mindless]

Well, there's more to the Full Burst than a few plated parts. You get clear parts that hold the funnels, aswell as clear parts for the actual funnels and a different stand (that can be bought separately for a few $ so nothing special).

I'm looking forward more to the MG Hi-Nu, eventhough the design on it sucks. 1/100 MG Hi-Nu Gundam (http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN948832)

Nearing completion of this kit too. Old picture though.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1327/dscn2867hm4.jpg

[darksage78]

Looks awesome, I guess I'll go with regular MG Strike Freedom. Btw Mindless, what do you use for panel lining? My pens are always making lines too thick, etc and messing up the kit. I usually have to use the drainage method which takes way too long and is usually pretty messy. Do you use a pen or another method? If you use a pen what company, pen tip thickness, etc? Thanks.

[staradderdragoon]

i used the gundam marker but even then, that was too thick for my taste. (i used Donkey Show's eraser method too) how do u do the drainage method?

oOo....Hi-Nu looks badass.

[darksage78]

You kinda paint over the lines and have the black drain into the groove you want filled. Wait for it to dry and then take a small piece of paper or q-tip works ok too and dab it into some alcohol or methanol(I use methanol but your choice). Then you make sure you don't have too much otherwise the black will run and spread over and look really bad. And that takes a long time to clean too @__@ But just run the q-tip or paper dab over it and erase the upperlevel black leaving the black that's trapped in the groove there. It works pretty well but takes a long time and is hard to get it right sometimes :(

[Mindless]

For panel lines?

I use pastel chalk + water + soap. Works good for me.

[darksage78]

Sorry to ask but how do go about doing that?

[Mindless]

Well, basically you get a pastel chalk (a dry one, not thoes sticky ones) and you scrape off pigments using your hobby knife into a small bowl or something where you already have put water and soap (50/50) then you mix this up. Dip your brush into it and touch the panel line with the tip of the brush and the capillary effect will do the rest. If there's not enough pastels in the panel lines just add some more. Then you wait, say 10-20 min to let it dry then you wipe it off with a slightly moist paper or some q-tips.

A must if doing this is a surface that has been sprayed with some clear spray (or Future Floor Finish if you know what that is), else the pastels will matt down the surface.

[darksage78]

Hrmm... thanks for the info seems tedious XD I tried using Gundam markers just like staradder but its too thick as well. I might have to go find a marker that's fine enough. If anyone uses one thats nice please recommend me one.

[staradderdragoon]

i've heard of this really sharp pen that works, my friend showed it to me, but the only place u can buy it is in japan or taiwan. u know, those uber fancy pens....i dunno. i'll take a picture of it next time i see it, hopefully someone can identify it.

[darksage78]

Please do, I might be going to HK this March Break. If I do, I'll check with the hobby stores and see if they've got it and hopefully buy one or two depending on the prices. Also reminds me I should stock up on more Gundam Markers if I do go. So much cheaper over there :)

[staradderdragoon]

same here! my dad lives there now. but omg, gundam markers are like 1.75 there. so awesome. and they work fine as regular markers. well the silver and gold ones do...and models are so cheap there.

btw, no more gundam store in HK i told u right? its like a gundam center but its really lame. very dissappointed. best place is in wanchai area. MG freedom for 28 USD!. lol

[darksage78]

Which Gundam store? The one at Ocean Terminal? I didn't go there when I went back 2006 summer. Which store at wanchai? Lotsa good toy stores there @__@ lol

btw just saw the Bucue 1/144 HG kit, amazed Bandai would make it. I might get it, Bucues were awesome in GS. I'm waiting for that 1/100 HG Savior though, I really wished they make 1/100 HG Abyss already :(

[staradderdragoon]

yeah. there isnt one at Ocean Terminal anymore. at least inside the mall there isnt one. but at wanchai, u know Tai Yuen street? like right next to the street market where they sell food? that's where i got my freedom for 28. another store had it for 26. and they were selling PG strike for 75 but my mom said no. they dont stock very often though. toys'r us is a rip though. and they dont have all the models in the catalog either. like there was only one freedom that Toy's r us owned and that was at chai wan. i was like forget it. im not taking MTR all the way over there.

[Mindless]

I'm waiting for that 1/100 HG Savior though.

Waiting as in waiting to get it in the mail? Because it's been out a few months now.

[darksage78]

To get it when I go back to HK lol

[Allen Walker (inactive)]

I'm looking to start building Gundams. This will be first one. Do you have any recommendations on what to start with and where to buy the kits?

[staradderdragoon]

um. if its gonna be the first model, start with a High Grade model. i know Legend from Gundam seed destiny is a fun build.

[Mindless]

Good bang for the buck (if you screw the model up) would be as staradder suggested, a High Grade kit.

Where to buy them? If you live in the US you can probably find gundam models at most toy stores. If not, you can order online:

Rainbow 10 (http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/)

HobbyLink Japan (www.hlj.com)

If you've built models in the past, I'm sure you'll work it out. If not: Godspeed.

[Vegitto-kun]

get a fucking perfect grade and then die while seeing the number of parts

[staradderdragoon]

yeah, but if u dont make it perfect, then its a waste of money.

[darksage78]

I'd say if its your first model ever, try out No Grade >__< But if you have, probably HG somewhere in the 1/144 scale to see if you like it.