Magicians Tier

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

With all the other tier lists running about, I figure why not.

Magicians Tier: Wizard, Sorcerer, Witch, Enchanter, Mage, Warlock, Alchemist, Magus, Shaman, Genie, Fairy, Necromancer, Thaumaturgist, Stage Magic, etc.


God Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a cosmic scale)


High Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a planetary scale)


Mid Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a continental or country scale)


Low Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a citywide scale)


Bottom Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a streetlevel scale)

[Captain Pimp]

So we can suggest characters that use magic strongly here?

Ok..I think Raquel (Scrapped Princess) belongs in...low tier.

[SoulTaker540]

I think Lina Inverse and Dr.Strange should be God tier.Lina can call forth the actual god of her verse to cause destruction,and Dr.Strange can negate the Infinity Gauntlet for a little bit of time.

Ed Elric should probably be low tier...that really pains me to say.

[~Shin~]

I'm guessing dark schneider is on the god tier and harry potter verse is probably bottom tier

[Kira Yamato]

Hmmh..Nagi Springfield is a name that comes to mind off the bat (Negi's father).Even though he's considered one of the most powerful magicians in that series, I'd put him Mid to lower-tier until his true powers are revealed (which I believe is more powerful).

[Reznor]

Ed Elric should probably be low tier...that really pains me to say. Technically, he's a scientist. :P

Though, I think we need more categories to qualify for higher tiers on this, since magic needn't be entirely overt. Unless this is only for magicians combat abilities.

Babidi (DBZ), for example, probably can't destroy even a city through direct means - that's a warriors task in DBZ. But he can talk to everyone on Earth, and keep communications up to them. Plus, Bibidi made Buu, who could easily destroy planets.

I'd put him high tier, but I don't think I'd favor him in a battle versus most other high tier magicians, because he's not built for combat. (Well, debateable)

DS would be at least high tier, possibly near god tier. (He also is great in combat though, which is a good part of his power)

[Darklyre]

Note: I'm not including any magically-boosted beings like Black Adam or Juggernaut. Just actual magicians and such.

God Tier - Scarlet Witch, Dr. Strange, Dr. Fate, Shuma-Gorath, Magik (in Limbo only)

High Tier - Sephiroth (when casting Meteor)

Mid Tier - Major Disaster (maybe, since he started out with machines to do his stuff, but now magically sees chaos strands, which he manipulates)

Low Tier - Zatanna, Edward Elric

Bottom Tier - Magik (Earth dimension), Harry Potter

[~Shin~]

I was wondering is there any magician more powerful than dark schneider?
As far as i know, he'sthe most powerful

[Darklyre]

Scarlet Witch remade reality. Twice.

[mister_napolean]

the guy from bastard was pretty strong

[Comic Book Guy]

Wanda is at high to god tier.

High definitely. God, perhaps, because Roma, the Omniversal Guardian, noticed the reality warping emanating from the 616 universe.

And while she is a mutant. . . her mutation is natural access to magic at a vast magnitude.

[Wesley]

What definition of a Magician? Scarlet Witch is a mutant isn't she? Technically it's a freak power and not magic.

[mister_napolean]

gene from xmen

[Brandt]

Where would Zatanna fall? Her powers have never been fully revealed except for the fact that she can make things happen by saying spells backwards. What are the full extent of her powers? I'm not sure it's fair to put her as low tier as we've yet to see her true, full powered capabilities.

She's one of my favourite DC characters. :P

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

- God Tier:-
1- Pharaoh Atem: Clearly the most powerfull spell caster in fiction. He's got the nastiest and darkest omnipotent magic ever. He also has the craziest mind tricks. His priests are also very powerfull.
2- Anubis.
3- Zorc the Dark one.
4- Nitemare.

- High Tier:- (In no particular order)

1- Dark Schneider: You all know why he is so damn powerfull, but he is stronger than planet threat. He can destroy galaxies.
2- Gandalf: Maiar nuff said.
3- The Shaman King.
4- Lord Voldemort.
5- Merlin.
6- Black Adam.
7- Dr. Strange.
8- Alucard.
9- Summoners from Final Fantasy.
10- The Gold Saints.
11- Sauron.
12- Saruman.
13- The Gotei 13 Captains. (Kidou is Magic)
14- The Onimusha. (VERY HIGH)
15- Kratos.
16- The Prince of Persia: Probably the best time controller in fiction.
17- The Empress.
18- The Dahaka.
19- Lina.
20- Night-Terror and SC characters.
21- All Nen users. (HXH)
22- 5 Angels. (Berserk)
23- Spawn, Mammon, Malebolgia, Angela, Redeemer and the rest of SPAWN characters.

This list is getting too long.

- Mid tier:-

Dunno.

- Low tier:-

1- The Charmed Ones.
2- Naruto ninjas. (Dunno if you can call Jutsu Magic or not).

And the rest are worthless.

[mister_napolean]

the 5 angels in beserk should be in the high tier

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Ok I'll add them.

[Sasori]

David Blaine should be around God level IMO.

[Keollyn]

Kazuki Shikimori (Maburaho) is high tier.

[Giovanni Rild]

God Tier for Ganon/Ganondorf because he ruled over a whole alternate dimension{The Dark Realm} while trying to take over another

[mister_napolean]

mortal kombat people?

[Gaelek_13]

Samurai Jack's Aku I'd rate as Mid-Tier since he's been seen destroying continents and ripping holes in Time and stuff.

[Rice Ball]

What about the D&D wizards?

Where would Elminster go in this list? I mean hes backed by a god and can pretty much freeze time(like every other wizard i guess...).

[Giovanni Rild]

Samurai Jack's Aku I'd rate as Mid-Tier since he's been seen destroying continents and ripping holes in Time and stuff.

He's omnipresent and he took over the world. High tier

[ydraliskos]

EDIT: Also, please keep your goddamn anime powers outta this. This thread is about magicians, not people with powers that don't exist in the real world.

HINT: You'll know if he's a magician if he's described as one , or similar to one. Spawn for example probably passess, since he learn shit from goddamn Houdini

So yeah, keep your ninjas,shinigamis and whatever the hell out of this, they are not Magicians or wizards of any sort. (For example, no,

Your way of classifying those wizards is questionable at best. Most of the strong wizard never get written with simply a blast-radius as a way to show their power. I'll keep your tier names but do it a bit more fairly

I'll do the ones I know, but this thread needs Raistlin-sama


God Tier

Rincewind (also see bottom tier lol)

High Tier

Macross the Black
Pug of Crydee (Milamber)
Lina Inverse
Medivh

Mid Tier

Gandalf (as shown with feats)
Archancellor Ridcully
Granny Weatherwax

Low Tier

Unseen University faculty

Bottom Tier

Harry potter universe (wands + incantation = dead before your second vowel =( sorry)

Rincewind

[SoulTaker540]

Why doesn't Lina get to God Tier,same with Dark Schieneder.Lina calls upon the god of all gods from her universe,and Dark Schieneder can bust galazies.That seems pretty cosmic to me.

[mister_napolean]

superman should be in there also he can fly into space and destroy planets

[Keollyn]

Superman?! Are you for real?

Dark Schneider can do more with his magic than just destroy galaxies (which I still don't believe he can do anyway)... so he's easily God tier.

[Comic Book Guy]

How does Superman even fit under the magic criteria?

[Wesley]

Lina's a mortal girl. She's done some pretty wild things, but if you stab her, she will bleed. In fact, the only reason she's been able to stand up to the Mazoku of her universe is because they have to hold back vs. mortals. If Lina was attacked on the Astral Plane, she would die without knowing it was coming or that it happened.

[Suzumebachi]

How does Superman even fit under the magic criteria?

>_> He can fly into space and destroy planets. Duh.

[Suzumebachi]

Lina's a mortal girl. She's done some pretty wild things, but if you stab her, she will bleed. In fact, the only reason she's been able to stand up to the Mazoku of her universe is because they have to hold back vs. mortals. If Lina was attacked on the Astral Plane, she would die without knowing it was coming or that it happened.


How does being human make her any less of a powerful magician?

[Keollyn]

Lina's a mortal girl. She's done some pretty wild things, but if you stab her, she will bleed. In fact, the only reason she's been able to stand up to the Mazoku of her universe is because they have to hold back vs. mortals. If Lina was attacked on the Astral Plane, she would die without knowing it was coming or that it happened.

But does that discredit her MAGICAL CAPABILITIES?

[Khamzul]

God Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a cosmic scale): Valar (Tolkien's world, they are God's).

High Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a planetary scale):

Mid Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a continental or country scale): Rand 'al Thor (With his statue),

Low Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a citywide scale): Rand 'al Thor (Wheel of time), Asha'man (Wheel of time), high-tier Aes Sedai (Wheel of time), Lord Amander Drake (Malazian book of the fallen), Maiar (Tolkien's world)

Bottom Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a streetlevel scale): Low-tier Aes Sedai, Wizards / Witches (Harry Potter)

Will add more later. We are talking burst damage here right?

[Wesley]

Lina gained her skills through alot of hard work and studying. However, her personality is ultimately what allows her to weild Chaos itself as a viable weapon. Still, she's not the best at everything magical in her world. For example, there are spells she can't cast by herself, particularly extremely high level Shamanism and most white magics.

She as a human can only perform 2 spells at a time. She can bypass chanting in most instances, and can perform almost any 2 spells at once.

There's also her monthly problem. It's not a big deal, but she's little more then a girl with a really good right hook at those times.

Probably the single most awesome thing she's ever done was serve as a suitable vessel for the Lord of Nightmares, who created the worlds for the soul purpose of regaining Her lost form. She became God, even if you can't really say she was herself at the time.

Day to day though, she's an above average Sorceress with a reputation for extreme villiany, which is only in part true.

[Endless Mike]

I heard that the magicians from the 'Young Wizards' series are very powerful, but I haven't read any of the books myself.

[Kage no Yume]

Lina can cast Gigaslave...need I say more? Unless there's another magician out there who's actually an omnipotent god/goddess, then Lina should be number 1 on the list.

Keep in mind that this list is based on magic abilities alone, not battle strength.

[ydraliskos]

Lina gained her skills through alot of hard work and studying. However, her personality is ultimately what allows her to weild Chaos itself as a viable weapon. Still, she's not the best at everything magical in her world. For example, there are spells she can't cast by herself, particularly extremely high level Shamanism and most white magics.

She as a human can only perform 2 spells at a time. She can bypass chanting in most instances, and can perform almost any 2 spells at once.

There's also her monthly problem. It's not a big deal, but she's little more then a girl with a really good right hook at those times.

Probably the single most awesome thing she's ever done was serve as a suitable vessel for the Lord of Nightmares, who created the worlds for the soul purpose of regaining Her lost form. She became God, even if you can't really say she was herself at the time.

Day to day though, she's an above average Sorceress with a reputation for extreme villiany, which is only in part true.


Lina is great and all, but the scale of the upper tiers is just too high. There are people there who dimension-travel as easy as walk, alter time, and oversee civilizations. Just my 2 cents

[Hiruma]

Lina is god-tier since she CAN cause destruction on a cosmic scale...

[Chatulio]

Black Alice (potential god tier) she absorbs teh power of any magical being potentially she owns all :P

Raistlin Majere is God tiere. He in an alternate timeline succeded in topling the 3 Most powerdul dietys and arose to god hood. Mind you he destroyed creation as he knows it but hey *shrugs*

Phantom Stranger(really don't know were to place him though i put him as high tier)

Nabu (spirit within fates helm) he goes under high tier along with the rest of the lords of order and chaos.


Medivh, Merlin, Lina, Elminster, chosen of the gods(FR), Master of the tower of Wyreth(DL), Shazam High tiere.

Dr. Fate , Captain Marvel, Black Adam mid tier

Low Tier would be Zatana

Bottom tier average dispensable wizard, Harry Potter verse




About Dr. Strange the dudes powers fluctuate depending on who rights him so its hard to tell were he goes.

[Nice Gai]

Rita Repulsa
Lord Zedd
Zordon
God Tier. They could stop time make it go backwards summon monsters.

[CrazyMoronX]

God Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a cosmic scale)
Dark Schneider

High Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a planetary scale)
Dr. Strange
Cole PRIME
Wyatt PRIME
various FF casters

Mid Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a continental or country scale)
Charmed Ones
Merlin
Gandolf

Low Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a citywide scale)
David Blaine
Chris Angel

Bottom Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a streetlevel scale)
Harry Potter

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Characters that are difficult to place on a Tier system:

Magus (Chrono Trigger)
Wuya (Xiaolin Showdown)
Leknaat (Suikoden)
Vecna (Greyhawk)
Black Mage (8-Bit Theater)
Red Mage (8-Bit Theater)
Sarda (8-Bit Theater)
Vaati (Legend of Zelda)
Sakura Kinomoto (CLAMP Universe)
Evangeline A.K. McDowell (Negima)
Ghaleon (Lunar)
Lezard Valeth (Valkyrie Profile)
Jeannie (I Dream of Jeannie)
Magica De Spell (Scrooge McDuck Universe)
Deneb (Ogre Battle)
Skeletor (MOTU)
Evil-Lyn (MOTU)
King Trode (Dragon Quest VIII)
Dhoulmagus (Dragon Quest VIII)
Rhapthorne (Dragon Quest VIII)
Jafar (Disney's Aladdin)
Mirage (Disney's Aladdin)
Mozenrath (Disney's Aladdin)
Sabrina the Teenage Witch (Archie Comics)
Thomas Covenant (Stephen R. Donaldson novels)
Mandrake the Magician (U.S. comic strip)
Pious Augustus (Eternal Darkness)
Harry Dresden (The Dresden Files)
Richard Rahl (Sword of Truth)
Lady Kale (Princess Gwenevere and the Jewel Riders)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_magicians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Magical_girls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Magical_girl_anime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Magical_girl_manga
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_demons

[Cthulhu-versailles]

With all the other tier lists running about, I figure why not.

Magicians Tier: Wizard, Sorcerer, Witch, Enchanter, Mage, Warlock, Alchemist, Magus, Shaman, Genie, Fairy, Necromancer, Thaumaturgist, Stage Magic, etc.


God Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a cosmic scale)


High Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a planetary scale)


Mid Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a continental or country scale)


Low Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a citywide scale)


Bottom Tier (capable of magics that alter reality and/or cause destruction on a streetlevel scale)

So FF7 Cloud is High tier?

[Giovanni Rild]

Wuya conqured earth as soon as she returned to she normal form

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4877/picyuko0bbeu3.gif
Yuko Ichihara (CLAMP Universe) should be in the God Tier. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C3%BBko_Ichihara)

[Rice Ball]

There seem to be a silly ammount of 'Universe busters' in everyones list. People like Dr Strange are powerful but aren't planet killers. Lina from slayers isn't a universe destroyer either(even if she can summon the LoN, Gigaslave destruction didn't destroy the planet they were on, it was too focused).



Anyway...


God Tier-
Haruhi Suzumiya

High Tier(Planet)-
Dark Schneider

Medium Tier(City)-
Shazam (DC)
Medivh
Dr Strange
Elminster
Dr. Fate
Black Adam/Captain Marvel
Raistlin
Sephiroth (Powerful FF people, like Kuja too)


Low Tier(Street or less)-
Gandalf the White (And every other LotR mage)
Nagi Springfield (some in the series might be mid tier)
Harry Potter (And every other HP mage)
Ganondorf
Babidi
Zatana

Mid Tier contains alot of people, most are around that level with some more or less.



Random-
Black Alice (Depends whos power she absorbs)

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Yuki Nagato (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya) should be in the Bottom Tier.

[Rice Ball]

Yuki Nagato (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya) should be in the Bottom Tier.

True, shes never done anything greater than a room, Battle wise she'd own pretty much everyone in High tier tho.

[korican04]

Genie from Aladin is god level. Phenomenol Cosmic Power. Although he doesn't bring people back from the dead -_-.

[Keollyn]

You consider what Haruhi does as magic?

[Rice Ball]

You consider what Haruhi does as magic?

ofc, she'd not have it any other way :)

[The Anti-Existence]

Sephiroth (Powerful FF people, like Kuja too)

Excuse me...Sephiroth's biggest magical accomplishment was using the Planet to use the Ultimate Destructive Magic. Specifically stated no one could use the Black Materia unless they had Spirit Energy giving them a boost. Which Seph did. Plus, he failed miserably..

Kuja, on the other hand, was capable of spawning an entire race from a concoction of Black Magic and stagnant souls as a normal mage. When he absorbed souls and went into Trance, he could nuke an entire planet and cross dimensions.

Kefka was the God of Magic. He absorbed the power of the THree Goddesses and conquered the world, sucking all the energya nd life out of everything and then leisurely blowing apart cities and could have easily done the entire planet had he wished.

Kuja, as he could cross from one planet to another as well as dimensions and then nuke them is High Tier. Kefka is a lower-level high Tier but definitely up there.

[Endless Mike]

. People like Dr Strange are powerful but aren't planet killers.

O RLY? (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelpremiere09056mq.jpg)

Also

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planblow2nb.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange64vf8.jpg

[SoulTaker540]

Didn't Dr.Strange technically negte the IG for a few moments?It's been a while so I might not remember that properly.

[Endless Mike]

He countered each individual gem being used one at a time. I don't remember if he countered them all at once, if he did it was only for a split second.

[Rice Ball]

O RLY? (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelpremiere09056mq.jpg)

Also

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planblow2nb.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange64vf8.jpg

Can Dr Strange repeat this at will against an enemy?
I don't think so :)

[Endless Mike]

Sure he can. He even blew up a moon easily after being exhausted from fighting for over a day on end.