Battle of the Brains!!!!. Whose prep time is stronger?

[Giovanni Rild]

Rules are

No direct attacks, unless it's part of the prep time plan.

Must defeat enemies with a non-direct attack, Like a trap.

Last team standing wins.

2 week prep time.

Team Heylin: Wuya{Human Form, Depowered}, Chase Young, Hannibal Roy Bean and Jack Spicer.

DC's craftiest: {Silver Age}Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Dr Light and Darkseid.

Naruto's Ninja geniuses: Orochimaru, Shikamaru Nara, Chiyo and Kidomaru.

Megaman series's evil geniuses: Dr Wily, Dr Doppler, Sigma and Gate

Marvel's craftiest: Doctor doom, Maestro Hulk , Thanos and Reed Richards

Avatar's Masters of War: King Bumi, Jet, Sokka and Uncle Iroh.

Team Star Fox: Fox McCloud, Falco Lombardi, Slippy Toad and Peppy Hare

Team Cid: Cid{FF7} Cid{FF8} Cid{FF9} and Cid{FF10}

Team Sonic: Dr Robotnik, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tails, and Espio the Chameleon

Symphonia's Tacticans: Lloyd Irving, Regal Bryant, Kratos Aurion and Rodyle

The British Library's Special agents: Joker, Gentleman, Faust and Drake Anderson

Strategists of Suikoden: Leon Silverberg, Kiba Windamier, Shu and Ridley Wizen


Plot!!!!!!

[BlueNinja44]

Don't forget about some of the R.O.D characters.

I really can't think of any One Piece character that would use prep time as their greatest advantage in battle except Usopp.

[Arroniro Arleri]

No McGuyver??

From those I say the Marvel team wins.
They have Reed!

[earthshine]

I DEMAND to know why thanos is not included in the marvel squad.

[Arroniro Arleri]

and Lucifer from DC! but that would make this really one sided....

[Spidey]

hmmm, I say team marvel, but only cuz I haven't been educated on what brainiac has done compeltely.

[Giovanni Rild]

I DEMAND to know why thanos is not included in the marvel squad.

I replaced Spiderman with him

[martryn]

Reed Richards for the win. He can invent a time machine or something. I don't know.

[Pipboy]

I vote that Sun Li the Glorious strategist beats them all.

[mister_napolean]

why not add Team Suikoden?

[Giovanni Rild]

why not add Team Suikoden?

That's overkill.:oh

[Roy]

tehy have reed but no lucifer wtf :(

[mister_napolean]

That's overkill.:oh

haha overkill? how? lol

[SoulTaker540]

You forgot Dr.Strange,with prep he is bassically unbeatable,he negated the Infinity Gauntleet for crying out loud.

[Giovanni Rild]

You forgot Dr.Strange,with prep he is bassically unbeatable,he negated the Infinity Gauntleet for crying out loud.

I was trying to make 4-man teams that wasn't overkill

haha overkill? how? lol

The Strategists of Suikoden are Macguyver-esque in the way that they can use the smallest detail and make it a total advantage

[mister_napolean]

yeah.. Team Suikoden would just win.. haha

[Havoc]

Why Doc Ock on Marvel, use someone else.

[Giovanni Rild]

Why Doc Ock on Marvel, use someone else.

Doc Ock replaced by Maestro Hulk

[mister_napolean]

throw beyonder in marvels section

[shadowlords]

team cid for the win!

ff7 cid could win all by himself you %#*@(! #(*@! %^*@!!!

[mister_napolean]

wheres team bleach also?

[ZergKage]

I wanna say Strategists of Suikoden soooooooooo bad :( but prob team marvel

Why is Starfox in this again?

[mister_napolean]

maybe casue there from the game SpaceCowboys LOL haha

[Havoc]

Thanos, Reed, Doc Doom on the same team equals a win.

[mister_napolean]

you should add ironman and the lizard to marvels group

[ZergKage]

That would be over kill smile-big

[Giovanni Rild]

I wanna say Strategists of Suikoden soooooooooo bad :( but prob team marvel

Why is Starfox in this again?

If four mercs can kick a evil space armada's ass over and over again, there has to be some skills and tactics that make that possible.

[mister_napolean]

reed,ironman,thelizard,and dr.oct would be invincible

[ZergKage]

If four mercs can kick a evil space armada's ass over and over again, there has to be some skills and tactics that make that possible.

Fair enough

[Giovanni Rild]

These teams have a advantage.

Team Cid: Cid{FF7} Cid{FF8} Cid{FF9} and Cid{FF10}

Because their skill with machinery and other sciences

Marvel's craftiest: Doctor doom, Maestro Hulk , Thanos and Reed Richards

Being geniuses and a tech advantage over the others.

Symphonia's Tacticans: Lloyd Irving, Regal Bryant, Kratos Aurion and Rodyle

Kratos is over 10,000 years old and therefore has a lot of knowledge. The rest of the party has a knowlege in a useful craft or trade. Regal has a great general knowledge as well. Rodyle is a master plotter as well as great knowledge. Lloyd is a quick thinker

Megaman series's evil geniuses: Dr Wily, Dr Doppler, Sigma and Gate

Their tech is supeior to all the other teams and since 3 out of 4 dosen't need sleep, they have much more time to plan.


Strategists of Suikoden: Leon Silverberg, Kiba Windamier, Shu and Ridley Wizen

They can adapt to almost any situation and they are genuis strategists and generals

Avatar's Masters of War: King Bumi, Jet, Sokka and Uncle Iroh.

About every damn body in Avatarverse are survivalists that can live in the wilderness and spot traps without a problem. With the exception of Bumi, the other three are known for their ability to adapt and survive. All are known for their intelligence.

and

Team Heylin: Wuya{Human Form, Depowered}, Chase Young, Hannibal Roy Bean and Jack Spicer.
Three have everlasting life, one's know for for being a idiot. They have thousands of upon of thousands of years of experience between them.

[Rice Ball]

Oh i didn't see you put Thanos in with Marvels list.

He is the king of preptime, i mean he held the universe at its throat 3 times and won once (yes the super villan won, he destroyed the universe)

[mister_napolean]

everything sounds pretty even right now

[Giovanni Rild]

So who wins?

[mister_napolean]

team suikoden they will exploit ever weakness of all there opponents in a matter of days and your giving them 2 weeks prep time

[Gooba]

team suikoden they will exploit ever weakness of all there opponents in a matter of days and your giving them 2 weeks prep timeSo do all of the great stratigests, and unless I am wrong the Suikoden people have never defeated the entire universe, including the cosmics.

[Blitzomaru]

Team Thanos. Reed and Doom can sleep this one off. Thanos would just teleport Haley's comet into a direct course with the planet, and BOOM!

[Giovanni Rild]

Team Thanos. Reed and Doom can sleep this one off. Thanos would just teleport Haley's comet into a direct course with the planet, and BOOM!

Then Team Megaman X can use the Eclipse cannon to blast it to dust

[mister_napolean]

team suikoden would use all the runes

[Rice Ball]

Seriously, Read Thanos Quest + Infinity Gauntlet and Marvel:The end

Thanos through planning and knowledge owns a bunch of cosmics stealing gems of unimaginable power under the nose of Cosmic powers. Kills half the population of the universe, owns galactus, eternity, lord chaos, master order, stranger, chronos, eon, meathisto, the x men, the avengers.... All by himself

In the end he basicly becomes a god, he destroys the 616 universe including the Living tribune (the big cheese).

In his own comic series, he fights people like beyonder and galactus, through planning he has both of them on the knees at the end of the encounter.

[Giovanni Rild]

No direct attacks, unless it's part of the prep time plan.

Must defeat enemies with a non-direct attack, Like a trap.





can only win with Indirect attacks

[Keollyn]

So do all of the great stratigests, and unless I am wrong the Suikoden people have never defeated the entire universe, including the cosmics.

Do they need to? They're not fighting the universe... which is what makes their games so appealing. Oh and they fight cosmics regularly. What? You think those true runes are for show?

[Blitzomaru]

Well then Thanos teleports the dark pheonix into the sun. The Dark Pheonix devours the sun. 17 minutes later the Planet Earth becomes a giant Snocone. That indirect enough?

[Giovanni Rild]

Well then Thanos teleports the dark pheonix into the sun. The Dark Pheonix devours the sun. 17 minutes later the Planet Earth becomes a giant Snocone. That indirect enough?

Yep. but still can be counterd

[Blitzomaru]

Yep. but still can be counterd

How do you counter not having a sun? let's say that Dark Pheonix devours the sun at 1:00PM (for the sake of argument, it's daytime whereever the other combatants are on earth. It would take 8 minutes for the last trace of light to reach the earth, so at 1:08PM they would know they are endangered. At that time, the earth would start moving in a straight line, since the sun would be essentially wiped out and there is no gravitational anchor. The weather would be like day after tommorrow x50, so no spacecraft would be able to safely launch. Every satellite we have in orbit would eventually come crashing down on us as the Earth moves straight ahead. The Temperature ofthe planet would drop to above freezing within an hour. This is the surface temp, not the air temp. The planets internal heat would keep us at that temperature for about a week or so. Then we'd gradually drop down to somewhere around 175-200K and stay there. Menwhile Thanos is trillions of Light Years away sipping tea.

[Giovanni Rild]

How do you counter not having a sun? let's say that Dark Pheonix devours the sun at 1:00PM (for the sake of argument, it's daytime whereever the other combatants are on earth. It would take 8 minutes for the last trace of light to reach the earth, so at 1:08PM they would know they are endangered. At that time, the earth would start moving in a straight line, since the sun would be essentially wiped out and there is no gravitational anchor. The weather would be like day after tommorrow x50, so no spacecraft would be able to safely launch. Every satellite we have in orbit would eventually come crashing down on us as the Earth moves straight ahead. The Temperature ofthe planet would drop to above freezing within an hour. This is the surface temp, not the air temp. The planets internal heat would keep us at that temperature for about a week or so. Then we'd gradually drop down to somewhere around 175-200K and stay there. Menwhile Thanos is trillions of Light Years away sipping tea.

Team Sonic: Dr Robotnik, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tails, and Espio the Chameleon

Shadow the Hedgehog could've intercepted Dark Pheonix with a device bulit by Dr robotnik to contain it and Chaos Control Dark Pheonix to another part of the universe.

Symphonia's Tacticans: Lloyd Irving, Regal Bryant, Kratos Aurion and Rodyle

Lloyd, Regal and Kratos could try to steal the object. Or use Thor's hammer{Manacannon} to blast Dark Pheonix.

Strategists of Suikoden: Leon Silverberg, Kiba Windamier, Shu and Ridley Wizen

Lead a false attack while that elf with the True Holy Rune zips by and Steals the Infinty Gauntlet. Or get Viki to teleport it away from Thanos

Team Heylin: Wuya{Human Form, Depowered}, Chase Young, Hannibal Roy Bean and Jack Spicer.

They have some Shengonwu to prevent Thanos from doing that, like the Sands of Time

Megaman series's evil geniuses: Dr Wily, Dr Doppler, Sigma and Gate

Not much these guys can do except try to steal the IG

[Rice Ball]

Thanos wills everyone to have the mind of a 2 year old.
<reread any trap>

Thanos wins


Feel free to post how some of these people are going to win.

You are aware that Thanos has prep too, he'll see his enemys moving and adapt to them.

Please tell me the greatest preptime feats these people you claim can counter him have done, i've already listed most of Thanos preptime feats, i don't think you've got much to match them.

[mister_napolean]

Team Suikoden would realized it adn would have used some of the true runes to counter it.

[Rice Ball]

Team Suikoden would realized it adn would have used some of the true runes to counter it.

Do these 'truth runes' have powers of a true god? (i mean rewrite full universal reality style warping)

[Kuya]

If it's a non-direct attack. Team Suikoden wins.

[Rice Ball]

Can someone explain there abilities to the full, also include the type of people they have defeated through planning.

[Giovanni Rild]

Can someone explain there abilities to the full, also include the type of people they have defeated through planning.

Gate Rune
Once held by the Gate Rune Clan, the Gate Rune possesses the ability to connect the various dimensions of reality in the universe of Suikoden. Because of this, the bearer holds great responsibility. When the Clan was wiped out in 78 of the Solar Calendar, the Rune was split in two by Leknaat and Windy, who then went their separate ways to keep the Rune safe. Later, the two halves of the Rune would find themselves on opposing sides of the "Gate Rune War" that saw the formation of the Toran Republic. Currently, the Rune is still divided, with one half (the Back) possessed by the seer Leknaat; the location of the Front Gate Rune is unknown as Windy plumetted from the Floating Gardens above Gregminster at the end of the war.

Sovereign Rune
The Sovereign Rune is one of the examples of a Rune taking up host on something that isn't living - the Rune was embedded into the sword of Barbarossa Rugner, the Dragon King Sword. Prior to the possession by the Rugner family, the Rune was stored in the Holy City of Rupanda, which would later be renamed Gregminster with the rise of the Scarlet Moon Empire. As the heriloom of the Rugner family, the Rune would be embedded in an object possessed by each ruler as a sign of their absolute rule. The Rune offered protection against all other runes, including the sorceress Windy's Black Rune, as well as allowed Rugner to transform himself into a golden three-headed hydra. The current location of the Rune is unknown as Barbarossa plunged off of Gregminster's Floating Gardens with Windy, taking the sword, and thus the Rune, with him.

[Rice Ball]

From the sound of it they don't compaire with the infinity gauntlet or give the sorta precog needed to beat someone like Thanos.

[ydraliskos]

The Kwisatz Haderach's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwisatz_Haderach)

But that's probably cheating, I guess

[Giovanni Rild]

From the sound of it they don't compaire with the infinity gauntlet or give the sorta precog needed to beat someone like Thanos.

that's just two of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_True_Runes

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Team Suikoden wins because Suikoden pwned as a rpg series.

Team Final Fantasy wins because evryone knows FF7 Cloud> All. Incidentally, FF7> All. Therefore, Cloud> Cid and other characters of FF7>Everything

Team Marvel wins because of Reed Richards.

Team Dc wins because Brainiac when used outside the contextualize stratosphere of Dc comics is broken.

Team Naruto wins because Orochimaru is haxxor.

Team Megaman wins because in Megaman 5 I was able to reach Dr. Willy using only regular shot, no energy tanks, and without gettting a single gameover. However, I couldn't beat Dr. Willy using only regular shot. It can then be concluded that Dr. Willy was broken.

[Rice Ball]

After reading a bit about them i still believe they have no shot against Thanos (nevermind him working with Doom/Mister Fantastic) :)

Some of the runes are more like curses rather than boons, bringing them all together might grant great power, but nothing compaired to that of the Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe.

I also fail to see them being able to outmatch Cosmic awareness and Thanos/doombots when it comes to knowing what the enemy is planning.

[ydraliskos]

After reading a bit about them i still believe they have no shot against Thanos (nevermind him working with Doom/Mister Fantastic) :)

Some of the runes are more like curses rather than boons, bringing them all together might grant great power, but nothing compaired to that of the Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe.

I also fail to see them being able to outmatch Cosmic awareness and Thanos/doombots when it comes to knowing what the enemy is planning.


how far into the future can cosmic awareness see ? Because Dune future-seers saw pretty much all the way, with Emperor Leto having plans spanning tens of thousands of years.

[Giovanni Rild]

After reading a bit about them i still believe they have no shot against Thanos (nevermind him working with Doom/Mister Fantastic) :)

Some of the runes are more like curses rather than boons, bringing them all together might grant great power, but nothing compaired to that of the Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe.

I also fail to see them being able to outmatch Cosmic awareness and Thanos/doombots when it comes to knowing what the enemy is planning.

Or they just try to seize th IG from Thanos using Viki and the Blinking rune

The Blinking Rune has appeared with Viki in every game of the Suikoden series and using it Viki can teleport herself and/or the players party to previously visited towns. The Blinking Rune is often speculated to be a True Rune, however this has not been confirmed or denied by Konami.Feeding the speculation is the fact that Viki appears across the whole series despite the century long gap between Suikoden IV and the others. However, there is evidence that Viki merely disappears from time and space for periods of time- in Suikoden II when she teleports in front of the player for the first time she comments that the last thing she remembers was the victory celebrations from the end of Suikoden, backing this up is the fact that Viki also appears as a child in Suikoden III. Also against this is the fact that it is possible to acquire a second Blinking Rune in Suikoden II in the ninja hamlet of Rokkaku.

And she can transport items.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

After reading a bit about them i still believe they have no shot against Thanos (nevermind him working with Doom/Mister Fantastic) :)

Some of the runes are more like curses rather than boons, bringing them all together might grant great power, but nothing compaired to that of the Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe.

I also fail to see them being able to outmatch Cosmic awareness and Thanos/doombots when it comes to knowing what the enemy is planning.

In continuity, I'm pretty sure the IG cannot be reobtained, because LT did his hocus-pocus. Unless that was changed after. Nonetheless, even if it were, then Thanos would need to get them from the new holders, or wherever else then been placed.

Heart of the universe seemed like a one shot thing... how do you think he's suppose to get it again?

Also, if you want to allow Thanos such things, then the Dc team should be able to recruit others and or obtain them or other excess powers. Brainiac especially could abuse that.

Brainiac is an utter beast! Take everything Thanos, Dr. Doom, and Mister Fantastic has every built and it isnt even a 100th of what Brainiac has in his total arsenol. That is not to say Brainiac has superior tech, just that Brainiac has more. Brainiac has conquerored world after world after world and taken tech. :nod

@ Op
-why was Darkseid omitted from the Dc's team??????
Moreover, Joker and Batman shouldn't even be on that list compared to certain others intellectuals in Dc.

[Giovanni Rild]

In continuity, I'm pretty sure the IG cannot be reobtained, because LT did his hocus-pocus. Unless that was changed... Nonetheless, even if it were, then Thanos would need to get them from the new holders or whatever. I doubt that.

Heart of the universe seemed like a one shot thing... how do you think he's suppose to get it again?

Also, if you want to allow Thanos such things, then the Dc team should be able to recruit others and or obtain them or other excess powers.

Lastly, Brainiac is an utter beast. Take everything Thanos, Dr. Doom, and Mister Fantastic has every built and it isnt even a 100th of what Brainiac has in his total arsenol. That is not to say Brainiac has superior tech, just that Brainiac has more. Brainiac has conquerored world after world after world and taken tech. :nod

@ Op
-why was Darkseid omitted from the Dc's team??????
Moreover, Joker and Batman shouldn't even be on that list compared to certain others intellectuals in Dc.
Joker replaced with Darkseid. Batman replaced with Dr Light

[Rice Ball]

Well no one in DC has done a preptime feat like Thanos :)
Has Brainiac taken out the Anti Monitor alone? No he's a part of a team, and nothing compaired to Thanos :P

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Joker replaced with Darkseid. Batman replaced with Dr Light


Batman Preptime> Dr. Light preptime

besides that I think everything is more even now

Omg-

Darkseid vs Thanos
Brainiac Vs Reed Richard
Dr. Doom Vs Lex Luthor

[Giovanni Rild]

Well no one in DC has done a preptime feat like Thanos :)
Has Brainiac taken out the Anti Monitor alone? No he's a part of a team, and nothing compaired to Thanos :P

There are other teams going at each other as well. Remember 2 weeks prep time also. Thanos wouldn't get to do as he pleases in this match up

[Cthulhu-versailles]

^ That is why Suikoden wins. Dc / Marvel take each other out, Suikoden takes out eveyrthing else and the leftovers.

[Blitzomaru]

If Thanos wanted to, he could just use dooms time machine to go to the past, before the IG was nullifed by the LT. Then he would destroy everyone. And everyone thinks is just a simple matter of 'just take the IG of of him'. That's not that easy. Thanos was holding back his power significantly when he fought team Warlock. He left the gauntlet accessible on his hand, when he could've easily hid it inside his body in a pocket dimension.

Nevertheless, I admit I don't know anythign about these runes. But this is what I read from Wikipedia:
All bearers of True Runes stop aging and become immune to disease and all other natural causes of death, although they could still die from physical causes such as accidents or murder. There are some True Runes that grant the bearer their powers, but suck their life away as they use that power. While these do grant immortality of sorts, far too often the bearer succumbs and uses the powers, ending their life early. All True Runes are equal in overall power, but some have abilities that are more suited to combat than others, including some that manifest in this world as physical weapons.

So let me get this straight. It grants you immeasurable power, but you can still die from accidents or murder? That makes absolutely no sense. Thanos with one of the infinity gems or a cosmic cube wins this easily. Thanos with none of this wins this easily as well, since he has an armada of ships spread throughout the galaxy and the ability to teleport them to one place whenever he wishes, the strongest herald of Galactus as his errand boy, Adam Warlock backing him up from time to time, and pip the trolls undetectable unlimited teleporting powersm could easily annilhilate the galaxy if he wanted to.

[Rice Ball]

There are other teams going at each other as well. Remember 2 weeks prep time also. Thanos wouldn't get to do as he pleases in this match up

Thanos needed 15 minutes to take out Galactus.

As for Darkseid v Thanos, its the supervillan battle of the centuary.

[Giovanni Rild]

The teams That i think have the greatest chances of winning.

Team Heylin: Wuya{Human Form, Depowered}, Chase Young, Hannibal Roy Bean and Jack Spicer.

Shengonwu anyone? And the Sands of Time

Team Sonic: Dr Robotnik, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tails, and Espio the Chameleon

Dr Robotnik is a expert in buliding traps. And Super Shadow can Chaos Control very large metors in the direction of the other team's bases

Avatar's Masters of War: King Bumi, Jet, Sokka and Uncle Iroh.
They would stay low untill powerhouses like DC/Marvel take each other out and take out everbody else by setting up some traps.

Symphonia's Tacticans: Lloyd Irving, Regal Bryant, Kratos Aurion and Rodyle
They have a real good chance because Rodyle's traps in the game was sadistic and very cunning and everyone in this party is very intelligent

Team Star Fox: Fox McCloud, Falco Lombardi, Slippy Toad and Peppy Hare
Same as team Avatar, hide until strong guys are gone

[Rice Ball]

The difference is the 'winner' of the DC/Marvel battle will be pretty much Omnipotent.

Read Infinity Gauntlet or Saga/Marvel:The End

[Giovanni Rild]

No direct attacks. And The True Runes stop you from aging but drains your life force.

The Heylin team uses the Sands of time to reset the battle to the prep time peroid and plot to get the IG. BAM!!!

[Rice Ball]

Thats great and all (why is it going to help them, its not like its going to let them survive being unmade or removed from time)

Please can you tell me if any of the people you have listed can create something that can even HARM Thanos,

As for time travel, so can Thanos/Doom
So we'll let them both turn up and fight for the IG shall we? Would they even have the insight to find it, Thanos did, he was the only one in the universe who was able to comprehend the power.

You also realise the IG has the time gem don't you, its not like its gunna be assulted through time while the user is the master of time.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

If Thanos wanted to, he could just use dooms time machine to go to the past, before the IG was nullifed by the LT. Then he would destroy everyone. And everyone thinks is just a simple matter of 'just take the IG of of him'. That's not that easy. Thanos was holding back his power significantly when he fought team Warlock. He left the gauntlet accessible on his hand, when he could've easily hid it inside his body in a pocket dimension.

Nevertheless, I admit I don't know anythign about these runes. But this is what I read from Wikipedia:
All bearers of True Runes stop aging and become immune to disease and all other natural causes of death, although they could still die from physical causes such as accidents or murder. There are some True Runes that grant the bearer their powers, but suck their life away as they use that power. While these do grant immortality of sorts, far too often the bearer succumbs and uses the powers, ending their life early. All True Runes are equal in overall power, but some have abilities that are more suited to combat than others, including some that manifest in this world as physical weapons.

So let me get this straight. It grants you immeasurable power, but you can still die from accidents or murder? That makes absolutely no sense. Thanos with one of the infinity gems or a cosmic cube wins this easily. Thanos with none of this wins this easily as well, since he has an armada of ships spread throughout the galaxy and the ability to teleport them to one place whenever he wishes, the strongest herald of Galactus as his errand boy, Adam Warlock backing him up from time to time, and pip the trolls undetectable unlimited teleporting powersm could easily annilhilate the galaxy if he wanted to.

if you want to include all forms of tech, then Brainiac over the course of two weeks gets information from Darkseid about technological superior/ high class worlds and peoples. Brainiac, with the help of Darkseid and others LexLuthor recruits, then goes on a quest to absorb all data and technologies of those peoples. As for Thanos and his armada, Brainiac would simply absorb the ships of Thanos and use his technology against him. Brainias thrives in the face of technology. So Thanos' armada is not going to help team Marvel. In a regular fight, Thanos' raw abilties would be far more important in fighting Brainiac then his technology.

Since when can a decision of LT's in One Specific universe be easily overturned? In fact, it doesn't matter what time Thanos travels to, LT' ruling will still stand.

Moreover, even if it did not, do you honestly think LT would let Thanos get the IG again? LT would decide that Thanos' actions to re-gather the same gems is too dangerous. Thus LT would only need redo what he had already done. That is off course assuming that LT would need to, which I don't see why. LT decision's/actions cannot simple be overtuned.

[Giovanni Rild]

Thats great and all (why is it going to help them, its not like its going to let them survive being unmade or removed from time)

Please can you tell me if any of the people you have listed can create something that can even HARM Thanos,

Team Heylin: Wuya{Human Form, Depowered}, Chase Young, Hannibal Roy Bean and Jack Spicer.

They have shengonwu that can reduce your intellect by a lot, Shengonwu that can trap you in a alternate dimension, Shengonwu that can put you in stasis. random other that can deal with Thanos

Strategists of Suikoden: Leon Silverberg, Kiba Windamier, Shu and Ridley Wizen

They can use the Gate Rune and send the IG in a deminsion where it dosen't work, They can blink the IG 10,000,000 years in the future in a random star

Symphonia's Tacticans: Lloyd Irving, Regal Bryant, Kratos Aurion and Rodyle
Llyod can use The Eternal Sword and will Thanos or the IG out of existence. HUZZA!!!!!

Besides I said no direct attacks.

[Rice Ball]

Gratz, you've listed direct attacks that 'might' (If Thanos had preptime its laughable that any of these would work) work against Thanos, can any of them attack him with a non direct attack.

Please note the Bot and Cosmic awareness.

[Giovanni Rild]

Gratz, you've listed direct attacks that 'might' (If Thanos had preptime its laughable that any of these would work) work against Thanos, can any of them attack him with a non direct attack.

Please note the Bot and Cosmic awareness.

No. those can be set up as traps. and willing the IG into nothingness isn't attacking Thanos

[CrazyMoronX]

Marvel's team would win. With the combined prep-time of Thanos, Doom, Reed, and Hulk... no contest.

PS: MacGyver DOES NOT USE PREPTIME.

[Giovanni Rild]

What can Thanos to stop from Llyod willing the IG into Nothingness with the Eternal Sword, which is it's equal in power in the fact that it can do anything it's willed to?

[Rice Ball]

No. those can be set up as traps. and willing the IG into nothingness isn't attacking Thanos

Serious question, have you read any of the Marvel comics i pointed out?
I'm not being funny but its a perfect example of how good Thanos prep time is.

Also you assume Thanos has last move, you also assume the others know Thanos plan, while Thanos WOULD know theres due to cosmic awareness and bots as i have explained.

[CrazyMoronX]

Obtain HOTU, travel through time and obtain ET himself or simply kill Lloyd as a baby.

[Havoc]

Reed has an army of cloned Thors.
Doom has Doombots.
Thanos is a pimp.

[Giovanni Rild]

Serious question, have you read any of the Marvel comics i pointed out?
I'm not being funny but its a perfect example of how good Thanos prep time is.

Also you assume Thanos has last move, you also assume the others know Thanos plan, while Thanos WOULD know theres due to cosmic awareness and bots as i have explained.

Almost all the teams have a way of spying.

Team Heylin: Wuya{Human Form, Depowered}, Chase Young, Hannibal Roy Bean and Jack Spicer.

Various Shengonwu

DC's craftiest: {Silver Age}Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Dr Light and Darkseid.

Varous devices

Megaman series's evil geniuses: Dr Wily, Dr Doppler, Sigma and Gate

Varous devices

Team Star Fox: Fox McCloud, Falco Lombardi, Slippy Toad and Peppy Hare

Varous devices

Team Sonic: Dr Robotnik, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tails, and Espio the Chameleon

Varous devices, Shadow with Chaos Control, Espio the Chameleon's super speed and stealth

Strategists of Suikoden: Leon Silverberg, Kiba Windamier, Shu and Ridley Wizen
Spies, Stallion with True Holy

Naruto's Ninja geniuses: Orochimaru, Shikamaru Nara, Chiyo and Kidomaru.

I don't need to say anything about these guys.


And I never said that he started off with IG. That's with the 2 week prep is for.

[Havoc]

As soon as the fight starts Marvel sends Maestro Hulk to start taking people out.

[Giovanni Rild]

As soon as the fight starts Marvel sends Maestro Hulk to start taking people out.

No Direct attacks!!!

[Rice Ball]

You haven't read Marvel:the end.

Thanos technology allowed him to notice dooms spybot which was (before Thanos shown his) the smallest and best stealthed one.

[Havoc]

No Direct attacks!!!


Unless it's part of the prep time plan.

They do it to slow the other teams down. He's despensible.

[Giovanni Rild]

You haven't read Marvel:the end.

Thanos technology allowed him to notice dooms spybot which was (before Thanos shown his) the smallest and best stealthed one.

Hmmm. The cosmic awareness gives the Marvel team the edge. Llyod's can undo anything Thanos has done with the Eternal Sword, but the cosmic awareness always has Thanos steps ahead.

If Llyod or Anybody else even think about removing the IG from the universe, Thanos will act first.

What if Llyod uses the eternal Sword to somehow cloak his team from Thanos's cosmic awareness?

Unless it's part of the prep time plan.

They do it to slow the other teams down. He's despensible.

They have to finish the other teams with a indirect attack also

[Havoc]

You should bar cosmic items that can alter reality.

[Giovanni Rild]

Infinity Gantlet and Enternal sword barred. I thought Maestro had a genuis intellect

[Rice Ball]

Might work, but first he'd have to have knowlege of Cosmic awareness to remove it. And in order to learn about it he'd have to be the victim of it a few times (which could be too late)

[Havoc]

Infinity Gantlet and Enternal sword barred. I thought Maestro had a genuis intellect


Compared to the others he not that impressive.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Stop Underestimating Brainiac!

[Rice Ball]

Stop Underestimating Brainiac!

Hes a good villan and a league above most DC characters when it comes to devious plans, but this time hes against heroes and villans that are at least his equal.

What if DC also had Alex Luthor, hes a preptime genius.

[Giovanni Rild]

Stop Underestimating Brainiac!

I'm not. My comic knowledge is poor compared to these guys because I only read up facts of comic character and only read five comic books.

[Blitzomaru]

SO if these runes and IG and HOTU are barred, this is still Thano's win. All Thanos would have to do is recreate his dopplegangers from the Infinity Abyss Storyline. One Doppleganger was created to be his physical superior, X was created to test Professor X, Armour was created to test iron Man, Mystic was created to test Doctor Strange, and Omega was created to test Galactus. Just send those 5 out intot he world, they won't fight the others, but they'll cause so much damage that the others HAVE to fight them.

[Giovanni Rild]

SO if these runes and IG and HOTU are barred, this is still Thano's win. All Thanos would have to do is recreate his dopplegangers from the Infinity Abyss Storyline. One Doppleganger was created to be his physical superior, X was created to test Professor X, Armour was created to test iron Man, Mystic was created to test Doctor Strange, and Omega was created to test Galactus. Just send those 5 out intot he world, they won't fight the others, but they'll cause so much damage that the others HAVE to fight them.

I would allow use of the weaker runes.

[Havoc]

Hes a good villan and a league above most DC characters when it comes to devious plans, but this time hes against heroes and villans that are at least his equal.

What if DC also had Alex Luthor, hes a preptime genius.


He's just a manipulator, I wouldn't put him in the same league as Reed. In terms of preptime that is. But I guess manipulation can be considered preptime, idk.:laugh

[Blitzomaru]

Havoc you just gave me an idea. Deadpool! Thanos manipulates deadpool by telling him that he'll give him a leaked sextape of Bea Aurthur if he would take care of the rest of the competition.

[Giovanni Rild]

Marvel will not win as easily or at all for reasons already stated

[Blitzomaru]

But Deadpool cannot die! So theoretically you could drop an atom bomb on him and by some deus ex machina, he'd survive.

[mister_napolean]

There seems to be different sides to this and its seems like its getting to the good part!!

Team Marvel and Team Suikoden are pretty close :oh

[Rice Ball]

No ones put a reason why other teams will win.
Only that marvel will not :)

[Cthulhu-versailles]

SO if these runes and IG and HOTU are barred, this is still Thano's win. All Thanos would have to do is recreate his dopplegangers from the Infinity Abyss Storyline. One Doppleganger was created to be his physical superior, X was created to test Professor X, Armour was created to test iron Man, Mystic was created to test Doctor Strange, and Omega was created to test Galactus. Just send those 5 out intot he world, they won't fight the others, but they'll cause so much damage that the others HAVE to fight them.

The Combined Dc team could counter that with the following.

-Mass Clone Superman in order to match or surpass the Thanos Dooplegangers. Secondly, give each one of the Superman Apokoliptan Armor and a Mother Box. Lastly, have each clone Sun dip.

Brainiac has already cloned Superman in some capacity. I have the comic in my room somewhere.

LexLuthor used his and Superman Dna to make Superboy.
Not to mention that the current Robin, is trying to create Superboy clones.

-
brainiac is seriously being underated.

[Rice Ball]

Okay
An army of sundipped Supermen in Apokoliptan with Motherbox.

Verses

An army of Galactus Clones, each with double galactus's power and his ship etc. Each able to eat a world.

No matter what Brainiac has done, Thanos surpasses him :)

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Okay
An army of sundipped Supermen in Apokoliptan with Motherbox.

Verses

An army of Galactus Clones, each with double galactus's power and his ship etc. Each able to eat a world.

No matter what Brainiac has done, Thanos surpasses him :)

Since when can Thanos make an Armgy of the Galactus clones?
he was only abel to make one? it was the Thanos clones he could spam?

and

Thanos was unable to even control the Galactus clone ayway.:)

[Havoc]

Mass clone Thanos and Thor.

[Rice Ball]

Since when can Thanos make an Armgy of the Galactus clones?
he was only abel to make one? it was the Thanos clones he could spam?

and

Thanos was unable to even control the Galactus clone ayway.:)

Your point being? When did Brainiac make an army of Sundipped supermen with apoc armour?
However Thanos made one, so why not more.

The clone had excaped, if released correctly Thanos would have had full control over all of the Infinity Abyss clones.

[Giovanni Rild]

Megaman series's evil geniuses: Dr Wily, Dr Doppler, Sigma and Gate

will counter Marvel by making a Legion of Zero and Vile clones.

The Viles will gaurd the base, the Zeros will attack Marvel base every five minutes to keep them from having time to plot

[Rice Ball]

And do any of the characters you've mentioned hold up against GALACTUS?

I thought not :)

[Giovanni Rild]

And do any of the characters you've mentioned hold up against GALACTUS?

I thought not :)

GALACTUS isn't in this fight.

[Rice Ball]

GALACTUS isn't in this fight.

Read the posts on this page.

Do you even know who Thanos is, your sending less than nats against him.

[Giovanni Rild]

Read the posts on this page.

Do you even know who Thanos is, your sending less than nats against him.

I know who Thanos is, and I highly doubt that he can create a clone of GALACTUS in two weeks.

[Rice Ball]

You haven't read Infinity Abyss.
Add Reed Richards and Dr Doom to his work force and i bet he could have an army of them in less than a day.

Please don't post ignorant rubbish.

[Giovanni Rild]

You haven't read Infinity Abyss.
Add Reed Richards and Dr Doom to his work force and i bet he could have an army of them in less than a day.

Please don't post ignorant rubbish.

Follow your own advice, Rice ball

[Rice Ball]

Follow your own advice, Rice ball

Sorry but i'm not the one whos posting false information in this thread, try again (and harder)


Have you read Infinity Abyss? Its a simple question that you've ignored.

[Giovanni Rild]

Sorry but i'm not the one whos posting false information in this thread, try again (and harder)


Have you read Infinity Abyss? Its a simple question that you've ignored.

No I haven't and please point out my so-called false info instead of accusing me.

get back on topic, Rice Ball

[Rice Ball]

No I haven't and please point out my so-called false info instead of accusing me.

get back on topic, Rice Ball

It is on topic you idiot. Don't make claims like -

I know who Thanos is, and I highly doubt that he can create a clone of GALACTUS in two weeks.

When Thanos DID make a Galactus clone in Infinity Abyss. Don't spread false information.

[Giovanni Rild]

It is on topic you idiot. Don't make claims like -



When Thanos DID make a Galactus clone in Infinity Abyss. Don't spread false information.

I doubted the fact, which I still do. I didn't declare it a fact.

[Rice Ball]

Well heres a picture of him.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Bubbleuk/DrStrange.jpg

Not the best of pictures, it was used in a previous debate to show how funky Dr strange can be. Next time i suggest you take my advice and when i quote a comic, before trashing it, read the comic.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Your point being? When did Brainiac make an army of Sundipped supermen with apoc armour?
However Thanos made one, so why not more.

The clone had excaped, if released correctly Thanos would have had full control over all of the Infinity Abyss clones.

Both Brainiac and Lex have made Clones of Supes, in some capacity, and where able to control them.

Darkseid is the one that will supply the tech to make the Supes more uber.

why exactly can't they go sundip? Unless you're applying some CIS, Brainiac and co simple instruct the clones to do so.

and
-how long did it take Thanos to make the Galactus clone?
-why r u assuming Thanos could control many Galactus clones when he couldn't even control one? I remember Thanos Stated it's power was too much to control once released and that is why he didn't release it. If Thanos made multiple Galactus clones he too would end up being killed by them...

[mister_napolean]

Team Suikoden would stop all clones by teleporting them to the sun :amuse

[Havoc]

Team Suikoden would stop all clones by teleporting them to the sun :amuse


That would stop a Superman clone?:laugh

[Giovanni Rild]

That would stop a Superman clone?:laugh
Why, yes it would. Magic and black holes

[~Shin~]

@Havoc, Dude wat happened to your rep bar?

[Giovanni Rild]

@Havoc, Dude wat happened to your rep bar?

He pissed off Vash I bet:nuts

[Havoc]

I had Reznor make my points negative.

Why, yes it would. Magic and black holes

He said teleport Superman into the Sun...

[Giovanni Rild]

I revive this cosmic thread. Arise!!

[Tuxx]

*stares at rules....*:oh

Anyways I only need 4 people.... Washu Hakubi, Reed Richards Skuld, and Layla Miller > <:P

[JJStorm]

From reading the posts here.......

Nobody has a goddamed clue how fucked are the other teams against Marvel.


I mean Doom and Reed are on the same team.

Doom is better than the guys mentioned by himself as he stole powers from Cosmics that would smack these guys like nothing.

Reed....well his smarts has pissed off the TVA who have a Retcon Cannon aimed at him.

And Thanos....well he's Smarter than those two. So yeah.

[Green Lantern]

These teams are really unbalanced. Really.

Lucifer Morningstar solos them all probably.

[Taleran]

CTRL + F = Midnighter


"Not Found"



WHAT THE FUCK.

[mystictrunks]

Black Panther, he cosmic cubes them out of existence.

[master bruce]

marvel>
dc>
naruto>
who cares.

[Rice Ball]

I revive this cosmic thread. Arise!!

This time maybe Rild knows a little more about the teams.

[Larisha]

Where the hell is Kabuto?

Go team Naruto! Orochimaru and Shikamaru for the win!

[Giovanni Rild]

This time maybe Rild knows a little more about the teams.

We all were newbs at one time. It was a good thread for a newb.

[A]

I vote that Sun Li the Glorious strategist beats them all.
Have you even played Jade Empire?

[Soul Vibe]

I vote Godzilla with prep beats them all

[mister_napolean]

wheres team earth? Newton, Einstein, and Benjamin