sword change?! (426 spoiler)

[Zetsuna]

yubakishiri is destroyed!!!
(i personally think its a good thing cause its zoro's only sword that has got no history behind it.)

does this mean
a.he gets a new (and better) sword or the lamer plan
bhe repairs yubakishiri?

[Hitotsumami]

Yubakishiri is gone. He won't repair that one.

[Wrath]

I always thought he'd eventually replace it, so I'm not that surprised. But that really was a Holy Shit moment.

[ramza85]

I kinda hope he get a new sword... one that cuts abilties user...
A SPECIAL SEASTONE SWORD!!! WOOOOOO~~~

[Moridin]

a new sword should be interesting, I wonder where he'll get it from o_O

[Ai_Kotobuki]

for someone of zoro's capabilities, i'd expect another kitetsu, nidai is my expected guess

[Virtua_Fighter]

which of the three sword is yubakishiri, the one he got from his childhood friend, the cursed sword, or the other one?

[Seitoukaichou]

Phew it was just Yubashira. That's the only sword, I could tolerate to break.

Not to mention what would have happened when Wado Iji Monji broke o____o" Zoro would loose it xD"
And sandai kitetsu is too cool to break XD!


Maybe he'll take Funkfreed, the elephant sword *rofl*

[Masaki]

which of the three sword is yubakishiri, the one he got from his childhood friend, the cursed sword, or the other one?

The other one.

[Wrath]

I wonder if he lost the sword in order to temporarily seal away his Ashura mode? Because if he had that, he could make quick work of the Marines, but he might not be able to do it with an unfamiliar sword.

It looks like Sanji will be the one to save the day here, possibly with his Devil Wind mode. But how about that for crazy speed, huh? He just disappeared with the entire Buster Call force watching him and Zoro right there next to him.

[Molekage]

maybe if the whole speculation with the merman island thing comes true in the next arc, he can get some awesome katana there. arlong's blade was legendary too if i remember correctly. perhaps they will even have seastone blades

[kombak]

thats the one the shop owner gave him for free?

[Molekage]

yeah, the one the shop owner gave him for free

[Moondoggie]

Wado Ichimonji is the one his deceased friend's father gave him.
Sandai Kitetsu is the cursed sword,
and Yubashiri was one of the world's best out of 50.{Guess it wasn't so great afterall. hehe j/k}

[Wrath]

Yeah, the other two were in the top twelve or something. I'd expect him to get a third sword that's either one of the best three or has a special ability, like a Devil Fruit power or being made of Seastone.

[Moondoggie]

Yeah, the other two were in the top twelve or something. I'd expect him to get a third sword that's either one of the best three or has a special ability, like a Devil Fruit power or being made of Seastone.


I think a blade made of Seastone would be a great addition.
Though I suppose with something like that, Zoro would have to be extra careful around Luffy, Chopper, Robin when it is unshealth. Other wise, he may be able to stand against upcoming logias we may see and the sword would be much harder to break.

Hmm, a devil fruit powered sword would be a bit hard to handle if it's not a Zoan type like Spandam's Elephant that could hear the commands of humans.
Something tells me Zoro doesn't want a sword that would turn into a animal. heh

[Wrath]

The problem with a Seastone sword is that it would be overkill. Maybe a steel-Seastone alloy that isn't quite so... totally lethal. But Zoro + Seastone sword = death.

[Aman]

Phew, it was just the Yubashiri.

I believe the Wado Iji Monji was one of the 21, and that the preceedor of the Sandai Kitatsu was also one of the 21. Or something.

[Wrath]

Yes, it was 21 for the Wado. I went and checked. But it's not said where the Kitetsu ranks, just that the Nidai Kitetsu used to be the best sword in the world.

[Aman]

Umm, are you sure it said best sword in the world? :huh I don't remember that at all. :oh

[aznwolfstein]

Just to note: being CLOSE to seastone will NOT take out an ability user's powers (if you want proof of this, Luffy fought immediately after escaping Croc's cage and Robin slapped Spamdam immediately after being released)
I don't know how useful a Seastone sword would be but i assume Logia users won't be able to dissolve and reform themselves. Otherwise, it might just be a normal sword and ability users would still be able to use abilities.

I also think Zoro will get a new sword but probably before they ever reach Merman Island. He will probably get a new sword at Water 7 when they go back (this is assuming he doesn't somehow get one at EL)

[Half Empty]

i am going to make an ultima prediction
they live EL then head to merman island were they meet a blacksmith merman that later make seastone sword for zoro and later joins the crew
would that plz every one

[kyutofukumaki]

Zoro gets more new swords.



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[Kefka]

Maybe he'll end up with the 3 cursed swords that nobody wants to use, that would mean the Wado Ichimonji would break eventually.

[tanukibeast]

finally my moment :woo

these are the sword classifications:

there are 12 supreme grade swords
21 excellent grade swords
40 fine grade swords

the wado ichimonji is of the 21 and the kitetsu and yubashiri are just fine grade swords.

i hope he gets a supreme grade sword personally i think its about time. or maybe zoro can collect all the kitetsus! :amazed

[Kagutsuchi]

I want Zoro to get a funky shaped sword or a giant sword, not just the same pirate design. (Even though the cursed one looks a bit cooler).

[FryGuy452]

How about smoker and that girl obsessed with swords join them and that girl gives zoro a sweet sword since she is collecting them.

[Kagutsuchi]

How about smoker and that girl obsessed with swords join them and that girl gives zoro a sweet sword since she is collecting them.

That woman's sword's sheath looks good, but the sword itself looks kinda normal. Me wants more unique designs :yell.

[Code]

Yeah, the other two were in the top twelve or something. I'd expect him to get a third sword that's either one of the best three or has a special ability, like a Devil Fruit power or being made of Seastone.
The one Kuina gave him was in the "21 Great Sharp Swords" or something like that, and the one the shopkeeper gave him (that he said was the best in his shop), was one of the "50 Sharp Swords." While the Kitetsu didn't belong to any of the groups I believe, the second generation Kitetsu is supposably in the same class as Kuina's, and a first generation was in the "Sharpest of the sharp" class I think. So it would seem that the Yubashari may have been a higher class sword.

[tanukibeast]

The one Kuina gave him was in the "21 Great Sharp Swords" or something like that, and the one the shopkeeper gave him (that he said was the best in his shop), was one of the "50 Sharp Swords." While the Kitetsu didn't belong to any of the groups I believe, the second generation Kitetsu is supposably in the same class as Kuina's, and a first generation was in the "Sharpest of the sharp" class I think. So it would seem that the Yubashari may have been a higher class sword.

i think he said one of the 40 fine grade swords and so was the kitetsu III the shopkeeper just said yubashiri was better because it wasn't cursed. it's in chapter 97

[Code]

Well I checked the chapter (well and read a script that seems more accurate), it did say that the kitetsu are nealry unsurpassed but no one would use them, but it only said that the third generation kitetsu was a "historical wazamono" the second generation being one of the "21 Oo-wazamono" and the first generation being one of the "12 Saijou-Oo-Wazomono", so I suppose if the those "historical wazamono" are only classified in the 3 categories, it would be one of the "50 Ryou-Wazamono" (Well-Sharpened), which is the same class as the Yubashari.

I also noticed that Kuina said this.

Yes, he's a swordsman known all throughout "East Blue", but he's infamous!! Using a sword as a tool to acquire money is
unforgivable!! Why is it... that this is a time when "evil" is so strong?! All the well-known swordsmen are pirates or bounty
hunters. Every Meitou rests in one of their hands, you see? The swords are crying.

So I suppose chances are, most of the famous swords are carried by other pirates or bounty hunters, both which he would have to fight to get it (unless they're nice enough to give it to him.) Or very luckily (and less intereting) runs into a random shopkeeper with one or finds one laying around. Though it'd be interesting if someone makes a new one.

[Hitotsumami]

I also noticed that Kuina said this.

Kuina? You mean Tashigi.

[Coaxmetal]

Just to note: being CLOSE to seastone will NOT take out an ability user's powers (if you want proof of this, Luffy fought immediately after escaping Croc's cage and Robin slapped Spamdam immediately after being released)
I don't know how useful a Seastone sword would be but i assume Logia users won't be able to dissolve and reform themselves. Otherwise, it might just be a normal sword and ability users would still be able to use abilities.

I also think Zoro will get a new sword but probably before they ever reach Merman Island. He will probably get a new sword at Water 7 when they go back (this is assuming he doesn't somehow get one at EL)
well a seastone sword would be naturally harder than any other metal sword he could have (I think Croc mentioned the strenght of Seastone being as such) so a seastone sword would be ideal for the powerful attacks that zorro can pull off. Also, like said before, the sword would make contact with a logia user (I'm very sure of that), and another thing, a sword like that would be impervious to a rusting attack (like his recently destroyed sword) because obviously the person that did that was a fruit user and had to touch the sword to do it. If the sword was seastone then he would be able to use his power on it.

[tanukibeast]

so that's what that was in 426 it was a burst of oxygen!

[Locksmith]

well a seastone sword would be naturally harder than any other metal sword he could have (I think Croc mentioned the strenght of Seastone being as such) so a seastone sword would be ideal for the powerful attacks that zorro can pull off. Also, like said before, the sword would make contact with a logia user (I'm very sure of that), and another thing, a sword like that would be impervious to a rusting attack (like his recently destroyed sword) because obviously the person that did that was a fruit user and had to touch the sword to do it. If the sword was seastone then he would be able to use his power on it.

I don't remember the qualities of seastone but I could be wrong. If seastone is in fact very hard it could be to its detriment. A sword needs to be strong, but also flexible enough to bend without breaking, ideally it would be strong enough to snap back to its original shape. If I remember correctly, Smoker's sword was basically a rod without a cutting edge. Realistically, a seastone sword might be too brittle for Zoro, who is tough on his swords. Of course, realism rarely has anything to do with a manga.

[Tsuuga]

Too brittle? Zoro can't cut through seastone, leading me to believe it's very, very strong.

[Code]

wasn't it stated that seastone were as strong as diamond?

[Locksmith]

Too brittle? Zoro can't cut through seastone, leading me to believe it's very, very strong.

Once again, I am not that familiar with the qualities of seastone, but if it is stone it is going to be harder than metal but less flexible. If I remember correctly, a high quality saber was supposed to be able to be bent nearly in half and then spring back to its original shape. A stone sword can't do this. It would be too hard, too brittle to bend without breaking. Zoro repeatedly puts tremendous stress on his swords. If the sword is not flexible enough, it will weaken and break. Zoro may not be able to cut through seastone but a sword is pretty thin. A seastone sword may not be flexible enough to withstand the force that Zoro continues to put upon it over time.

[Pipboy]

Yes it was.

Wado Ichimonji: One true path to harmony is one of the 21 sharpest swords

Yubashiri: Snow Step is one of the 50 sharp swords.

Sandai Kitetsu: 3rd Demon splitter can be of any of the top three categories. Though it is logically one of the 50 sharp. 1st was one of the 12 sharpest of the sharp, 2nd was one of the sharpest, and 3rd was left uncategorized.

[PhearTehGrimace]

I'm hopping for a Seastone Blade, It would be really handy.
If he had one back in Skypiea he probably could have taken out Eneru.(Just My Opinion)

[spaZ]

im happy that he broke that sword didnt do him much good anyway.. but i hope he gets a good new one at least

[Zetsuna]

FYI : The shodai kitetsu is currently owned by one of the gorosei (the old
guys leading the goverment)
its like a really cool wooden sword

The nidai kitetsu i dont know

[ramza85]

Once again, I am not that familiar with the qualities of seastone, but if it is stone it is going to be harder than metal but less flexible. If I remember correctly, a high quality saber was supposed to be able to be bent nearly in half and then spring back to its original shape. A stone sword can't do this. It would be too hard, too brittle to bend without breaking. Zoro repeatedly puts tremendous stress on his swords. If the sword is not flexible enough, it will weaken and break. Zoro may not be able to cut through seastone but a sword is pretty thin. A seastone sword may not be flexible enough to withstand the force that Zoro continues to put upon it over time.

well a katana isn't suppose to bend... what you were talking about might have been the fencing saber. Katanas are mostly made of steel, do steel bend and spring back to its orginal shape?
I look forward to a steel and seastone alloy Katana, enabling Zoro to cut even the Gods of OnePiece. But that will really just indicate we are nearing the end of OnePiece wouldn't it? Haha..
Anyway MiHawk blade was black... doesn't that indicate it is made of something special?
Zoro with a BLACK seaStone alloy Katana.. Cutting ships and gods like they were TOFU... WAHAHAHAHAH~~

[Code]

I'd personally rather see Zoro cut those things with sheer skill, as opposed to using it with the aid of a special metal (that would also automatically give him an advantage over any devil fruit user making it even a bit more cheap when his goal is to be the best.)

[dark_vincent]

I just hope that he wont have too much trouble to find another kickass sword, like something boring, but we're talking about One Piece, 98% chance that will kick ass :)

[Jotun]

Any one wonder if he will eventually revert to a One Sword style?

I hope he gets another cursed sword, a seastone sword would be overkill to many of the DF users.

[Unrequited Silence]

Doesnt matter..What ever sword he gets is going to be amazing...

As far him not replacing the sword that will never happen..He is known for his santoryuu style..That is him..That epitomizes him..

[tanukibeast]

i'm suppporting the idea that zoro will make someone make him a new badass unique sword that fits his personality

[Wrath]

Ussop Dial Sword GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Raptor]

Na, I have the feeling we'll see cute Tashigi in the next arc, dunno why.

[darklide]

hmmm
is it me only???
but in the last chapter i can see 3 swords with zoro...

[Hitotsumami]

hmmm
is it me only???
but in the last chapter i can see 3 swords with zoro...

That's because Zoro took a sword from a marine. If you look at the hilt of the sword, you can tell it's not one of Zoro's.

[Chi]

I don't really want Zoro to have a seastone sword to cut DF users.
It'll make him depend on his sword. Something, that I don't expect from Zoro..
He's the guy who want's to become strong by his own. So, normal sword for him, and trained ability to cut logias :P

[blacklusterseph004]

I would love to see him using funk freid. Due to the already present puns in all his attacks, it would make for some funny combos. 72 pound cannon with funk freid would be powerful.

[tanukibeast]

funkfried probably wasn't a quality sword to begin with so i don't see zoro using it

[maareek]

DONT YOU GUYS GET IT?
HIS SWORD ISNT DESTROYED,
ITS SIMPLY ON FIRE!!!!!

[Locksmith]

I guess we'll have to wait until after the fight to see if Zoro has any more of a reaction to losing the sword. I think he would only show regret if he lost Kuina's sword. I like the way he just picked a another sword and kept on going during the fight though.

[dark_vincent]

DONT YOU GUYS GET IT?
HIS SWORD ISNT DESTROYED,
ITS SIMPLY ON FIRE!!!!!

In fire AND in 3 pieces :P

[Atma Weapon]

In fire AND in 3 pieces :P
It's gotta be a new technique I dare say.

2 and 3 piece fiery slash of pain!