View Full Version : Another Venom battle Beleive it!!!
Vicious
09-07-2006, 09:36 PM
The battle is:
venom,carnage & spiderman vs. luffys crew(including luffy)
"so venom,carnage,spiderman"
Vs.
"the Straw Hats"
their fighting in the middle of the ghetto in gothom city with the huge tall buildings.!
Who Will Win??????????
Suzumebachi
09-07-2006, 09:39 PM
Which Spiderman?
Vicious
09-07-2006, 09:51 PM
Which Spiderman?the one in my spoiler is the venom that im using,and im using ultimate spiderman from ultimate marvel comics.!
Edit:just use any spiderman.!
how are they going to beat venom and carnage?
Vicious
09-07-2006, 10:56 PM
how are they going to beat venom and carnage?we r going to have to wait for the opfans to explain how they win.!?
i still beleive luffys team could have a chance by sheer numbers,but who knows.!?
Captain Pimp
09-07-2006, 10:57 PM
Straw hats don't have any fire techniques...it seems impossible for them to win against venom and carnage.
Suzumebachi
09-07-2006, 10:58 PM
Well, Venom and Carnage don't like fire.
Ussop and Sanji got fire.
Captain Pimp
09-07-2006, 11:03 PM
Well, Venom and Carnage don't like fire.
Ussop and Sanji got fire.
oh yea...Ussop has his slingshot w/ explosives...
What does Sanji have again as a fire attack?..
Suzumebachi
09-07-2006, 11:05 PM
What does Sanji have again as a fire attack?..
Diable Jambe.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 11:05 PM
Venom or Spiderman by himself beat the OP universe. One having the other is overkill
EDIT: add carnage as well
lol @ those one piece moves affecting carnage venom or spiderman
Captain Pimp
09-07-2006, 11:08 PM
Diable Jambe.
Hm..I'm not up to that yet..
Can't wait to see it XD
Vicious
09-08-2006, 12:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzumebachi
Spoiler:
Diable Jambe.
when was this, wat chapter??
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 12:04 AM
Manga spoiler:
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/chapter415.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9662
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 12:15 AM
Edit:just use any spiderman.!
You do realize, there's such a Cosmic Spider-Man.
ScubaSteve
09-08-2006, 12:20 AM
Venom or Spiderman by himself beat the OP universe. One having the other is overkill
EDIT: add carnage as well
lol @ those one piece moves affecting carnage venom or spiderman
Yea, I'm gonna have to disagree.
Vicious
09-08-2006, 12:20 AM
You do realize, there's such a Cosmic Spider-Man.except him,i totatly forgot about him and that other spiderman i forgot which one but theirs another one that i dont want to use.just use the ultimates in this fights.!
shadowlords
09-08-2006, 12:24 AM
venom and carnage will get owned by franky so bad. he breathes fire man and usopp and sanji both have fire moves. luffy can take spider-man by himself but i guess nico robin can break all of his arms and legs so that the spider wont be able to move anymore.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 12:34 AM
Yea, I'm gonna have to disagree.
We agree to disagree then
Pipboy
09-08-2006, 12:39 AM
Its great that having Jplaya on your side in an arguement is a near automatic verification that your on the wrong side. SH by a mile. Too much power, too much speed. Too much variety.
Giorno Giovanna
09-08-2006, 01:00 AM
Sanji with his badass Diable Jambe + his high attack speed + his incredible fighting skills would be too much for Carnage and Venom even with their special abilities since they're not such great fighters.
Spiderman would last longer only because of his intelligence but too much variety for him to handle.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:06 AM
Sanji with his badass Diable Jambe + his high attack speed + his incredible fighting skills would be too much for Carnage and Venom even with their special abilities since they're not such great fighters.
Spiderman would last longer only because of his intelligence but too much variety for him to handle.
The symbiote protects them both, i never seen carnage or venom damaged in anyway except sonic vibration. Plus venom and carnage has spider sense in effect making them known of the attacks and possibly dodging them
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:09 AM
The symbiote protects them both, i never seen carnage or venom damaged in anyway except sonic vibration. Plus venom and carnage has spider sense in effect making them known of the attacks and possibly dodging them
They are vunerable to fire like they are to sonics.
Giorno Giovanna
09-08-2006, 01:10 AM
The symbiote protects them both, i never seen carnage or venom damaged in anyway except sonic vibration. Plus venom and carnage has spider sense in effect making them known of the attacks and possibly dodging them
True, true, they do have spider sense of some sort. May have to do more research on these two.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:11 AM
They are vunerable to fire like they are to sonics.
so do the people they're fighting posses those techniques of fire and sonics?
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 01:12 AM
The symbiote protects them both, i never seen carnage or venom damaged in anyway except sonic vibration.
Symbiotes are vulnerable to fire.
Plus venom and carnage has spider sense in effect making them known of the attacks and possibly dodging them
Neither Venom or Carnage possess Spider Sense.
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:12 AM
so do the people they're fighting posses those techniques of fire and sonics?
Yes they do...I said they do.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:15 AM
True, true, they do have spider sense of some sort. May have to do more research on these two.
Hey sword dancer, wassup this is venom, these are my abilities.
Height: 6 ft. 3 in.
Weight: 260 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Redish Blond
Strength Level: Venom possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift (press) almost 11 tons.
Known Superhuman Powers: The alien costume, which has grafted itself to the nervous system of Eddie Brock, somehow absorbed the powers of Spider-Man during its brief symbiotic relationship with him. These powers have now been transferred to Brock, so long as he wears the costume. Brock had conditioned himself to lift (press) almost 700 lbs. Before he came into contact with the costume. Once they merged, the costume added Spider-Man’s superhuman strength to Brock’s vast human strength, making him more powerful than Spider-Man.
The alien costume also replicates Spider-Man’s ability to cling to walls by controlling the flux of inter-atomic attraction between molecular boundary layers.
Venom can also shoot strands of the alien’s substance in the form of “webbing” at high pressure up to a distance of 70 feet. The alien’s substance seems to be composed of tough, flexible fibers of organic polymers, which regenerate swiftly after “shedding.” The strands have extraordinary adhesive properties, which diminish rapidly once they abandon their living source. After about three hours, with no source to nourish them, the strands dry up like dead skin and dissolve into a powder. The strands possess a tensile strength of 125 pounds per square millimeter of cross section.
Venom also possesses an extrasensory ability similar to Spider-Man’s spider-sense. This response is not as complicated as Spider-Man’s inherent sense since the alien costume can detect danger from every direction and conduct Brock in plenty of time. It is not as efficient as Spider-Man’s spider-sense because it takes longer to communicate the danger, and Brock’s reflexes are not as fast as Spider-Man’s, even though they are enhanced by the alien costume. It is unknown whether Venom could dodge a gunshot or a barrage of bullets.
here's carnage.....
Hey buddy, this is your man carnage, these are my abilities
Perhaps due in part to his insanity, Carnage's strength and abilities far exceed those of his predecessors, Venom and Spider-Man. Once, he even dispatched his symbiote through a phone line by reducing the alien to its cellular level. When an army of symbiotes invaded Earth, Carnage learned to feed on other aliens to increase his own mass. However formidable, almost all his bloodthirsty endeavors have culminated with his return to the Ravencroft Asylum, where the search continues for a cure to his homicidal tendencies.
Height: 6 ft. 1 in.
Weight: 190 lbs.
Eyes: Green
Hair: Red
Known Superhuman Powers: Besides superhuman strength and agility, Carnage can adhere to most surfaces with his hands and feet, project a web-like substance, and mutate sections of his symbiotic costume into detachable weapons.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:16 AM
Symbiotes are vulnerable to fire.
Neither Venom or Carnage possess Spider Sense.
from venom's bio
Venom also possesses an extrasensory ability similar to Spider-Man’s spider-sense. This response is not as complicated as Spider-Man’s inherent sense since the alien costume can detect danger from every direction and conduct Brock in plenty of time. It is not as efficient as Spider-Man’s spider-sense because it takes longer to communicate the danger, and Brock’s reflexes are not as fast as Spider-Man’s, even though they are enhanced by the alien costume. It is unknown whether Venom could dodge a gunshot or a barrage of bullets
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:17 AM
Yes they do...I said they do.
well if they can connect it changes the outcome of the fight maybe. But like i said earlier i think spiderman can beat the entire OP universe but thats just my personal opinion
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:18 AM
Spiderman beat the whole OP universe? How do you figure that?
And don't say Cosmic Spiderman.
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 01:19 AM
Venom also possesses an extrasensory ability similar to Spider-Man’s spider-sense. This response is not as complicated as Spider-Man’s inherent sense since the alien costume can detect danger from every direction and conduct Brock in plenty of time.
It's not precog, as Spider Sense is.
It is not as efficient as Spider-Man’s spider-sense because it takes longer to communicate the danger, and Brock’s reflexes are not as fast as Spider-Man’s, even though they are enhanced by the alien costume. It is unknown whether Venom could dodge a gunshot or a barrage of bullets
Doesn't need to dodge bullets. The symbiote is usually bulletproof.
Vicious
09-08-2006, 01:19 AM
Symbiotes are vulnerable to fire.i thought ultimate venom didnt have weaknesses yet.!?Neither Venom or Carnage possess Spider Sense.but venom senses were for spiderman to track him down wherever he goes,but i maybe wrong.!?
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:21 AM
Venom also possesses an extrasensory ability similar to Spider-Man’s spider-sense. This response is not as complicated as Spider-Man’s inherent sense since the alien costume can detect danger from every direction and conduct Brock in plenty of time.
It's not precog, as Spider Sense is.
It is not as efficient as Spider-Man’s spider-sense because it takes longer to communicate the danger, and Brock’s reflexes are not as fast as Spider-Man’s, even though they are enhanced by the alien costume. It is unknown whether Venom could dodge a gunshot or a barrage of bullets
Doesn't need to dodge bullets. The symbiote is usually bulletproof.
But he has a sense that warns him of danger similiar to spider sense
yeah the symbiote is bullet proof but i didnt write it just copy paste
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/v/venom.htm
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 01:21 AM
but venom senses were for spiderman to track him down wherever he goes,but i maybe wrong.!?
Symbiote's affinity for Parker, most likely.
Even though bonded to Brock, the symbiote still yearned for Peter, for quite awhile.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:22 AM
Spiderman beat the whole OP universe? How do you figure that?
And don't say Cosmic Spiderman.
Spiderman has no glaring weaknes like fire or sonics.
Spiderman can attack most if not all the attacks because of his reflexes, coulped with spider sense.
Spiderman is a great hadn 2 hand fighter, not to mention the webbing and the advantage he has of floating shooting spider webs under his armpits.
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:22 AM
If you really want to use Ultimate Venom, then they don't need sonics and fire.
They can just beat him up.
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 01:23 AM
But he has a sense that warns him of danger similiar to spider sense
yeah the symbiote is bullet proof but i didnt write it just copy paste
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/v/venom.htm
Yes, similar in that they warn of danger. However, Spider Sense is precog, able to sense danger before it happens. Venom's danger sense is in real time, from what I remember from the Venom comics.
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:23 AM
Spiderman has no glaring weaknes like fire or sonics.
Spiderman can attack most if not all the attacks because of his reflexes, coulped with spider sense.
Spiderman is a great hadn 2 hand fighter, not to mention the webbing and the advantage he has of floating shooting spider webs under his armpits.
Is that all you got?
Really now, that was terrible. Spiderman is good, but the ENTIRE OP universe is much better.
Oh yeah...you've never read One Piece.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:24 AM
If you really want to use Ultimate Venom, then they don't need sonics and fire.
They can just beat him up.
The symbiote makes him impervious to physical damage
omg laser pew pew!
09-08-2006, 01:24 AM
They are vunerable to fire like they are to sonics.
http://www.game-addicts.com/wp-content/Sonic_the_Hedgehog.jpg
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http://www.keystar-r-s.com/reviews/pics/comics/marvel/Venom.jpg
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:25 AM
Is that all you got?
Really now, that was terrible. Spiderman is good, but the ENTIRE OP universe is much better.
Oh yeah...you've never read One Piece.
i dont need anything else.
Spiderman wins have a nice night
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:26 AM
The symbiote makes him impervious to physical damage
Ever read Ultimate Spiderman? It sucks.
But he's not impervious. He can be beaten up.
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:27 AM
i dont need anything else.
Spiderman wins have a nice night
Yes you do need something else.
Like the beat-everyone-in-one-piece power.
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 01:27 AM
i dont need anything else.
Spiderman wins have a nice night
Not really.
Peter can only do so much in-character to his limits.
jplaya2023
09-08-2006, 01:30 AM
Know Superhuman Powers: Spider-Man possesses superhuman strength, reflexes, and equilibrium; the ability to cause parts of his body to stick with great tenacity to most surfaces; and a subconscious premonitional "danger" sence. The irradiated Common House Spider (Achaearanea tepidariorum) which bit Peter Parker was apparently already mutated from prior exposure to certain frequencies of radiation and received a final, lethal dose during Parker's attendance of the exhibition. The radioactive, complex mutagenic enzymes in the spider's blood that were transferred at the time of the bite triggered numberous body-wide mutagenic changes within Parker.
Spider-Man's overall metabolic efficiency has been greatly increased, and the composition of his skeleton, inter-connected tissues, and nervous system have all been enhanced. Spider-Man's musculature has been augmentedso that he can lift (press) about 10 tons. His reflexes are faster than an average human by about a factor of 15 (he is often able to dodge bullets, if he is far enough away). Spider-Man is extraordinarily limber and his tendons and connective tissues are twice as elastic as the average human being's, despite their enhanced strength. He has developed a unique fighting style that makes full use of his agility, strength, and equilibrium.
Spider-Man's exposure to the mutated spider venom induced a mutagenic, cerebellum-wide alteration of his engrams resulting in the ability to mentally control the flux of inter-atomic attraction (electrostatic force) between molecular boundary layers. This overcomes the outer electron shell's normal behavior of mutual repulsion with other outer electron shells and permits the tremendous potential for electron attraction to prevail. The mentally controlled sub-atomic particle responsible for this has yet to be identified. This ability to affect the attraction between surfaces is so far limited to Spider-Man's body (especially conetrated in his hands and feet) and another object, with an upper limit of several tons per finger. Limits to this ability seem to be psychosomatic, and the full nature of this ability has yet to be established.
Spider-Man possesses an extrasensory "danger" or "spider" sensewhich warns him of potential immediate danger by tingling sensation in the back of his skull. The precise nature of this sense is unknown. It appears to be a simultaneous clairvoyant responce to a wide variety of phenomena (everything from falling safes to speeding bullets to thrown punches), which has given several hundredths of a second's warning, which is sufficient time for his reflexes to allow him to avoid injury. The sense also can create a general resonse on the order of several minutes: he cannot discern the nature of the threat by the sensation. He can, however, discern the severity of the danger by the strength of his response to it. Spider-Man's fighting style incorporates the advantage that his "spidey-sense" provides him.
Weapons: Spider-Man uses web-shooters which are twin devices worn on his wrists which can shoot thin strands of a special “web fluid” at high pressure. The web fluid is a shear-thinning liquid (virtually solid until a shearing force is applied to it, rendering it fluid) whose exact formula is as yet unknown, but is related to nylon. On contact with air, the long-chain polymer knits and forms an extremely tough, flexible fiber with extraordinary adhesive properties. The web fluid’s adhesive quality diminishes rapidly with exposure to air. (Where it does not make contact with air, such as the attachment disk of the web-shooter, it remains very adhesive.) After about 2 hour, certain imbibed ether cause the solid form of the web fluid to dissolve into a powder. Because the fluid almost instantly sublimates from solid to liquid when under shear pressure, and is not adhesive in its anaerobic liquid/solid phase transition point, there is no clogging of the web-shooter’s parts.
The spinneret mechanism in the web-shooter is machined from stainless steel, except for the turbine component, which is machined out of a block of Teflon and the two turbine bearings, which are made of amber and artificial sapphire. The wristlet and web fluid cartridges are mainly nickel-plated annealed brass. Spider-Man’s web cartridge belt is made out of brass and light leather and holds up to 30 cartridges. The cartridges are pressurized to 300 pounds per square inch and sealed with a bronze cap which is silver soldered closed. The wristlets have sharp steel nipples, which pierce the bronze cap when the cartridges are tightly wedged into their positions. A palm switch that is protected by a band of spring steel, which requires a 65 pounds pressure to trigger, actuates the hand-wound solenoid needle valve. The switch is situated high on the palm to avoid most unwanted firings. A rubber seal protects the small battery compartment. The effect of the very small turbine pump vanes is to compress (share) the web fluid and then force it, under pressure, through the spinneret holes which cold-draws it (stretches it: the process wherein nylon gains a four-fold increase in tensile strength), then extrudes it through the air where it solidifies. As the web fluid exits the spinneret holes, it is attracted to itself electro statically and thus can form complex shapes. The spinneret holes have three sets of adjustable, staggered openings around the turbine, which permit a single line, a more complex, spun web line, and a thick stream. The web line’s tensile strength is estimated to be 120 pounds per square millimeter of cross section. The 300 pounds per square inch of pressure in each cartridge is sufficient to force a stream of the complex web pattern an estimated 60 feet (significantly farther if shot in a ballistic parabolic arc).
spiderman wins
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:33 AM
I doubt you read all that or understood most of it.
But really, Comic Book Guy > jplaya
You lose dude. Thats not nearly enough to take on the armies of strong guys in One Piece.
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 01:38 AM
spiderman wins
You forget to take into account of Peter's personality and character.
In addition, the powers you posted are outdated. Read Spider-Man: The Other.
Copy and pasting can be done by anyone. Properly arguing and debating is another story.
Suzumebachi
09-08-2006, 01:42 AM
You forget to take into account of Peter's personality and character.
In addition, the powers you posted are outdated. Read Spider-Man: The Other.
Copy and pasting can be done by anyone. Properly arguing and debating is another story.
He doesnt read comics. He just wants One Piece to lose. He's a troll.
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