View Full Version : best hand to hand battle
gumba3ah
09-06-2006, 12:52 PM
which 2 characters (any 2) do you think will put up a show of the most deadliest, blood-spilling and might i add "entertaining" PURE hand to hand fight.
the rules:
1- Any type of fighting style can be used.
2- NO weapons are allowed.
3- NO superhuman abilities are allowed (e.g. laser vision, blowing fire, speed, disappearing, mind manipulation, flying, etc.) EXCEPT pure raw strength (e.g. hulk).
4- NO accelerated healing is allowed (e.g. wolverine).
5- If a certain fighter has only 1 special feature or superpower (e.g. flash's speed, wolverine's claws ) then he is allowed to use it.
6- Victory is only claimed when the opponent is DEAD.
7- A fighter has to be hit physically by his opponent to receive damage (e.g. professor X can't control the the hulk's mind to hit himself).
let the fights begin :evil
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 12:53 PM
Pre-Crisis Karate Kid is a contender.
Ize19
09-06-2006, 02:21 PM
I'd say Wolverine and Deadpool could get in on this, although from what I've seen of Karate Kid, he's pretty broken.
Jin22
09-06-2006, 02:32 PM
A good bloody technical hand to hand bout. I'd put a Fatal Fury version Geese Howard up against Street Fighter Alpha Sagat.
Fenix
09-06-2006, 02:35 PM
Kenshiro
Or any strong person from Fist of the North Stars
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 02:45 PM
Ryu vs. Terry Bogard
The fighting game icons duke it out.
Insipidipity
09-06-2006, 06:38 PM
Sonic vs. Mario. I've seen it happen, it's gory.
Giovanni Rild
09-06-2006, 06:39 PM
Sonic vs. Mario. I've seen it happen, it's gory.
Newgrounds eh?
gumba3ah
09-06-2006, 08:21 PM
superman vs thor
i'd love to see that
Delta Shell
09-06-2006, 08:25 PM
superman vs thor
i'd love to see that
Never read JLA/Avengers????
Jin22
09-06-2006, 08:29 PM
he beat me to it
Batman :nod he knows alot of martial arts it would be cool seeing him use it :nod
gumba3ah
09-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Batman :nod he knows alot of martial arts it would be cool seeing him use it :nod
against whom? :notrust
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 09:15 PM
Richard Dragon vs. Shang-Chi
hmmm againts Ryu or would that be too much for him?
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 09:46 PM
Comparing the Street Fighters with DC martial artists is pretty difficult, really.
Hokage Naruto
09-06-2006, 09:59 PM
Kenshiro
Agreed. Could stop fast moving arrows and could dodge bullets. With his knowledge of pressure points and his strength, he can easily be a worthy contender in a pure hand to hand fight.
gumba3ah
09-06-2006, 10:16 PM
buffy vs jessica alba in dark angel
:nuts yummy
Delta Shell
09-06-2006, 10:21 PM
Naked of course?
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:30 PM
Batman vs Goku = Battle of the 2 greatest hand 2 hand combat fighters in the history od DBZ and DC comics bar none
Endless Mike
09-06-2006, 11:32 PM
You do know that Batman, while extremely skilled, isn't even in the top 5 of DC's martial artists?
Giovanni Rild
09-06-2006, 11:32 PM
Batman vs Goku = Battle of the 2 greatest hand 2 hand combat fighters in the history od DBZ and DC comics bar none
:nuts You on the crack? Stop posting...Now
Suzumebachi
09-06-2006, 11:34 PM
Batman vs Goku = Battle of the 2 greatest hand 2 hand combat fighters in the history od DBZ and DC comics bar none
I was half right. I knew you'd post Goku, but I thought you'd post Gai and three tons of weighted clothes.:nuts
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:39 PM
You do know that Batman, while extremely skilled, isn't even in the top 5 of DC's martial artists?
bullshit
Batman knows over 127 fighting styles, techniques, moves etc...
He's fought against many great martial artist like keodye(from batman TAS), lady shiva, deadpool etc...
I've never seen batman lose a fight unless its bad non canon
Gai sensai would be 4th behind goku batman and ryu
Scorpio3.14
09-06-2006, 11:40 PM
Ippo vs Miyata from Hajime no Ippo. IT WILL BE GODLY I TELL YOU!!! :yell
Giovanni Rild
09-06-2006, 11:41 PM
bullshit
Batman knows over 127 fighting styles, techniques, moves etc...
He's fought against many great martial artist like keodye(from batman TAS), lady shiva, deadpool etc...
I've never seen batman lose a fight unless its bad non canon
Gai sensai would be 4th behind goku batman and ryu
DeadPool's Marvel.
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:43 PM
DeadPool's Marvel.
damn typo's i meant deathstroke
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 11:46 PM
bullshit
He ain't in the top 5. I should know.
Batman knows over 127 fighting styles, techniques, moves etc...
Yes, he has knowledge of 127 different martial arts.
He's fought against many great martial artist like keodye(from batman TAS), lady shiva, deadpool etc...
Kyodai is non-canon.
There are roughly 5 to 6 martial artists above Bruce.
I've never seen batman lose a fight unless its bad non canon
He lost before. In canon.
Gai sensai would be 4th behind goku batman and ryu
Pre-Crisis Karate Kid from Legion of Superheroes is arguably the most skilled martial artist in all fiction, without any meta abilties.
Endless Mike
09-06-2006, 11:48 PM
Um, you can't just say things are non - canon if you don't like them.
The top 5 DC Martial artists are Karate Kid, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon, and Bronze Tiger.
Deathstroke, Batman, The Question, Connor Hawke, etc. are second - tier.
Actually, they should be third tier since Karate Kid is really in a league of his own.
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:48 PM
bullshit
He ain't in the top 5. I should know.
Batman knows over 127 fighting styles, techniques, moves etc...
Yes, he has knowledge of 127 different martial arts.
He's fought against many great martial artist like keodye(from batman TAS), lady shiva, deadpool etc...
Kyodai is non-canon.
There are roughly 5 to 6 martial artists above Bruce.
I've never seen batman lose a fight unless its bad non canon
He lost before. In canon.
Gai sensai would be 4th behind goku batman and ryu
Pre-Crisis Karate Kid from Legion of Superheroes is arguably the most skilled martial artist in all fiction, without any meta abilties.
Batman is un fuckwittable in martial arts in DC - FACT
Karate Kid is nothing without mr Myiagi(R.I.P.) training. He was letting that bully son him throughout the entire flick
Endless Mike
09-06-2006, 11:49 PM
Wrong Karate Kid. LOL.
As for the best martial artist in all of fiction, it would have to be the Nobilis of hand - to - hand combat.
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:50 PM
Um, you can't just say things are non - canon if you don't like them.
The top 5 DC Martial artists are Karate Kid, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon, and Bronze Tiger.
Deathstroke, Batman, The Question, Connor Hawke, etc. are second - tier.
Actually, they should be third tier since Karate Kid is really in a league of his own.
Yes i can, being a well respected member of the comic world, anime, and manga world, peeps tend to regard my opinion onthe high and high and if i say something thats differnet from the norm, they usually side with me
Endless Mike
09-06-2006, 11:51 PM
Yes i can, being a well respected member of the comic world, anime, and manga world, peeps tend to regard my opinion onthe high and high and if i say something thats differnet from the norm, they usually side with me
.......
Let me guess: This is your picture, right?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/ActionComics785.jpg
Giovanni Rild
09-06-2006, 11:51 PM
Yes i can, being a well respected member of the comic world, anime, and manga world, peeps tend to regard my opinion onthe high and high and if i say something thats differnet from the norm, they usually side with me
Bullshit, Jackass
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:53 PM
.......
Let me guess: This is your picture, right?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/ActionComics785.jpg
nah son thats the retarded superman
Endless Mike
09-06-2006, 11:54 PM
Because that's the only way I can explain a remark that is so divorced with reality.
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 11:54 PM
Batman is un fuckwittable in martial arts in DC - FACT
Somewhat. There are other martial artists who are even better than Bruce.
Karate Kid is nothing without mr Myiagi(R.I.P.) training. He was letting that bully son him throughout the entire flick
I'm talking about Val-Amorr from the Legion of Super-Heroes.
Yes i can, being a well respected member of the comic world, anime, and manga world, peeps tend to regard my opinion onthe high and high and if i say something thats differnet from the norm, they usually side with me
I'm sorry, but I seriously have to say that your knowledge regarding comics is lacking much so.
jplaya2023
09-06-2006, 11:54 PM
Bullshit, Jackass
you :mad ?
Comic Book Guy
09-06-2006, 11:56 PM
you ?
In all seriousness, from what I've seen you post so far in these forums, you're knowledge regarding comics is lacking much so, and is wrong on some accounts.
SoulTaker540
09-06-2006, 11:58 PM
Um, you can't just say things are non - canon if you don't like them.
The top 5 DC Martial artists are Karate Kid, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon, and Bronze Tiger.
Deathstroke, Batman, The Question, Connor Hawke, etc. are second - tier.
Actually, they should be third tier since Karate Kid is really in a league of his own.
Me and CBG talked about this in a different topic and this is what he came up with.
Karate Kid
Richard Dragon
Cassandra Cain
Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Constantine Drakon
Connor Hawke
Batman
Notable Mentions
Mad Dog
Nightwing
Question
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:01 AM
If I were to include metahumans, Azrael and Deathstroke would be on that list.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:03 AM
Me and CBG talked about this in a different topic and this is what he came up with.
Karate Kid
Richard Dragon
Cassandra Cain
Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Constantine Drakon
Connor Hawke
Batman
Notable Mentions
Mad Dog
Nightwing
Question
looks like batman is underrated on this site as well smh
in terms of a straight up martial arts fight no powers or flying batman owns DC. Fact
Giovanni Rild
09-07-2006, 12:04 AM
looks like batman is underrated on this site as well smh
in terms of a straight up martial arts fight no powers or flying batman owns DC. Fact
most of those guys listed before are mostly super humans with super abilities that batman doesnt posses. Switch batman with superman and batman would be a god and clark would die without his powers cause he's lazy
You make me look normal. Stop that!!!!
SoulTaker540
09-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Just a note for jplaya,Batman has only beat Lady Shiva once and that was when she was mind controlled.He even says she is better than him.
Endless Mike
09-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Superman once fought Batman with no powers and still won.
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:06 AM
looks like batman is underrated on this site as well smh
No, you overrate him.
in terms of a straight up martial arts fight no powers or flying batman owns DC. Fact
Incorrect.
In terms of a martial arts fight,
Karate Kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Batman
Richard Dragon >>> Batman
Cassandra Cain > Batman
Lady Shiva > Batman
Bronze Tiger > Batman (fact, happened)
Constantine Drakon > Batman
Connor Hawke > Batman
most of those guys listed before are mostly super humans with super abilities that batman doesnt posses. Switch batman with superman and batman would be a god and clark would die without his powers cause he's lazy
Incorrect.
Of the martial artists I placed above Batman, they're HUMAN.
You seriously lack DC comic knowledge.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:07 AM
Just a note for jplaya,Batman has only beat Lady Shiva once and that was when she was mind controlled.He even says she is better than him.
batman doesnt like to gloat he will always put himself down in favor of someone else. That's what motivates him so dont buy into that cover up homey
even I agree with comic book guy and the others and look at my sig I fucking love Batman but he's more of a stratigec fighter than a one on one hand to hand combat
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:08 AM
Superman once fought Batman with no powers and still won.
bullshit
batman must of been drunk high in a coma
clark kent without his krypton powers is a normal man. The powers make him do all that stuff. He doesnt achieve anything through hardwork
Giovanni Rild
09-07-2006, 12:08 AM
batman doesnt like to gloat he will always put himself down in favor of someone else. That's what motivates him so dont buy into that cover up homey
It's over, You lost. Batman isn't the best DC martial artist
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
batman doesnt like to gloat he will always put himself down in favor of someone else. That's what motivates him so dont buy into that cover up homey
Put himself down in favour of someone else? Bat'jerk'?
And you call yourself knowledgeable in comics? Where have you been after 2000 in the comic world?
Endless Mike
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
bullshit
batman must of been drunk high in a coma
clark kent without his krypton powers is a normal man. The powers make him do all that stuff. He doesnt achieve anything through hardwork
Superman is actually a very skilled martial artist, he trained 1000 years in Valhalla and was trained by Mongol's son.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
It's over,
Yep another classic jplaya sonning of numerous NF posters. Im out of this thread
i'll holla at u pimp
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:14 AM
batman doesnt like to gloat he will always put himself down in favor of someone else. That's what motivates him so dont buy into that cover up homey
Put himself down in favour of someone else? Bat'jerk'?
And you call yourself knowledgeable in comics? Where have you been after 2000 in the comic world?
I aint got comic book stores out in my area playa. That business is dead
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:15 AM
What self-conceit.
I aint got comic book stores out in my area playa. That business is dead
And how did you accumulate you're comic knowledge?
SoulTaker540
09-07-2006, 12:16 AM
Yep another classic jplaya sonning of numerous NF posters. Im out of this thread
i'll holla at u pimp
You're retarded,Batman even admits he isn't as good as Lady Shiva who is third on that list.The arguement you gave was just plain dumb,"batman doesn't like to brag fam" I mean what the hell is that?Since you probably don't have the intelligence to answer I'll tell you,it's bull shit.
Giovanni Rild
09-07-2006, 12:17 AM
At least it wasn't me this time. Back to Topic.
And how did you accumulate you're comic knowledge?
Not defending the loser but I do well for not having a comic shop near me.
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:18 AM
Deathstroke vs. Captain America.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:19 AM
What self-conceit.
I aint got comic book stores out in my area playa. That business is dead
And how did you accumulate you're comic knowledge?
the same way i accumulate my naruto knowledge. Thursday morning on the main page chea
With the way technology is moving now, paperback books, magazines, etc.. Are becoming a thing of the past
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:21 AM
the same way i accumulate my naruto knowledge. Thursday morning on the main page chea
With the way technology is moving now, paperback books, magazines, etc.. Are becoming a thing of the past
Online, eh?
You're still lacking quite a bit of DC comic knowledge, from what you have posted so far.
Endless Mike
09-07-2006, 12:22 AM
For example, he said that Majin Buu could regenerate from an attack by the Spectre.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:23 AM
the same way i accumulate my naruto knowledge. Thursday morning on the main page chea
With the way technology is moving now, paperback books, magazines, etc.. Are becoming a thing of the past
Online, eh?
You're still lacking quite a bit of DC comic knowledge, from what you have posted so far.
I only care about the GOAT of DC which is batman. The Justice League is dope as well, wouldnt be good without batman. The rest of DC is ehhhh average. I just dont like their chars
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
For example, he said that Majin Buu could regenerate from an attack by the Spectre.
Which he can because we dont know the true depths of his strength
*Waits to hear some bogus bullshit that tries discredits my iron clad argument*
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
I only care about the GOAT of DC which is batman. The Justice League is dope as well, wouldnt be good without batman. The rest of DC is ehhhh average. I just dont like their chars
So far, you're overrating him as a martial artist, at the very least.
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:26 AM
Which he can because we dont know the true depths of his strength
*Waits to hear some bogus bullshit that tries discredits my iron clad argument*
No limits fallacy doesn't work here in this case.
The Spectre's the embodiment of the wrath of God, the Presence, itself.
No DBZ warrior would stand a chance.
Hence, your lack of DC knowledge.
SoulTaker540
09-07-2006, 12:27 AM
If Batman can't beat Lady Shiva then at the least he is #4,but we know he also can't beat Bronze Tiger.He even took "every precaution" and still only stalemated him.
jplaya2023
09-07-2006, 12:33 AM
If Batman can't beat Lady Shiva then at the least he is #4,but we know he also can't beat Bronze Tiger.He even took "every precaution" and still only stalemated him.
so if they "Stalemated" that means bronze tiger cant beat batman either
*waits to hear how bronzey was holding back in the fightm and ignore how batman holds back vs everyone*
*makes popcorn*
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 12:38 AM
so if they "Stalemated" that means bronze tiger cant beat batman either
That was only Batman taking every precaution. And despite the advantages he try to secure for himself, Bruce could only stalemate Ben.
How did you think Batman was unable to save Kathy Kane? Ben was the martial artist in his way.
*waits to hear how bronzey was holding back in the fightm and ignore how batman holds back vs everyone*
Batman IS beatable. He's not Batgod. Only under the writing of Frank Miller is he the Goddamn Batman.
*makes popcorn*
Read up more Batman.
Giovanni Rild
09-07-2006, 12:39 AM
Ryoga vs Rock Lee
and
Sasuke vs Ranma
Comic Book Guy
09-07-2006, 01:56 AM
Out of the 4, I only know of Sasuke and Rock's capabilities.
Endless Mike
09-07-2006, 01:57 AM
Out of the 4, I only know of Sasuke and Rock's capabilities.
Suffice it to say the Naruto characters die. Horribly.
ScubaSteve
09-07-2006, 03:04 AM
Which he can because we dont know the true depths of his strength
*Waits to hear some bogus bullshit that tries discredits my iron clad argument*
He's obviously joking.:P
gumba3ah
09-07-2006, 08:22 AM
schwarzenegger vs Lou Ferrigno (hulk series) in their prime
both were world class bodybuilders
i'd looooooove to see them in a slugfest
Delta Shell
09-07-2006, 09:22 AM
Yes i can, being a well respected member of the comic world, anime, and manga world, peeps tend to regard my opinion onthe high and high and if i say something thats differnet from the norm, they usually side with me
Ahahah, oh come on, I love this guy.
Kisame
09-08-2006, 11:53 PM
Listen to scorpio.314
Ippo vs Miyata will be so godly i might cream my pants :)
Comic Book Guy
09-08-2006, 11:57 PM
Yes i can, being a well respected member of the comic world, anime, and manga world, peeps tend to regard my opinion onthe high and high and if i say something thats differnet from the norm, they usually side with me
Even though I commented on this before. . .
Reading this multiple times really discredits him.
gumba3ah
09-09-2006, 03:09 AM
Even though I commented on this before. . .
Reading this multiple times really discredits him.
lol guys give the man a break
TheGreenSamurai78
09-09-2006, 03:27 AM
Ryoga vs Rock Lee
and
Sasuke vs Ranma
How is it that you said Luffy would be killed by Ranma even if he used Gear 2, and yet Sasuke could put up a fight with Ranma even though Luffy is 5x stronger then Sasuke? Luffy right now is beating Itachi in a thread.
jplaya2023
09-09-2006, 03:30 AM
How is it that you said Luffy would be killed by Ranma even if he used Gear 2, and yet Sasuke could put up a fight with Ranma even though Luffy is 5x stronger then Sasuke? Luffy right now is beating Itachi in a thread.
sasuke beats ranna using nagashi and copying his/her moves against him/her
Giovanni Rild
09-09-2006, 03:30 AM
How is it that you said Luffy would be killed by Ranma even if he used Gear 2, and yet Sasuke could put up a fight with Ranma even though Luffy is 5x stronger then Sasuke? Luffy right now is beating Itachi in a thread.
Because even I didn't know Ranma was that strong.
And who said I was using end of manga Ranma and Ryoga for this fight?
gumba3ah
09-10-2006, 11:58 AM
just saw the movie x-men the last stand
something came to mind
Colossus vs. Juggernaut
lots and lots of punches.
The End
09-10-2006, 12:26 PM
God in human form vs. the devil.
Kisame
09-10-2006, 12:41 PM
God in human form vs. the devil.
god in human form lost to some human.
God in human form is chuunin level.
Goodfellow
09-10-2006, 03:59 PM
meh, I liked the fighting sequense between Ocelot and Naked Snake, I'll go for those two^^
Although Muhammed Ali is pretty darn awsome as well.
Snake versus Ali?
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