View Full Version : How come Soifon didn't fight Yoruichi in her bankai release
Luckyday
08-15-2006, 07:08 PM
I mean she is a caption isn't she.:amuse
Shunsuii
08-15-2006, 07:10 PM
Because she didnt....and maybe Kube didnt want to show their Bankai's yet
Mat®icha
08-15-2006, 07:13 PM
yeah, i just watched that part. she must have bankai as a captain. but instead of bankai she comes up with some lightining technique (dont know name of it).
Luckyday
08-15-2006, 07:14 PM
Well, I hope he show her's soon. I find her kinda cool.:(
Koanashi
08-15-2006, 07:28 PM
Well... my theory is that to Soi Fong, the battle was all about proving equality/supperiority to Yoruichi in her own field; speed. Beating a zanpakto-less Yoruichi with bankai seems a bit back handed to me... also, since it's a two-hits-you're-dead shikai, bankai could well be an insta-kill. Not good for showing off your fighting skills to your opponent, plus Soi Fong almost definately didn't truely intend to kill Yoruichi.
That, and Kubo Tite didn't want to reveal all on the side characters; let's face it, side characters that have had all their skills explored are uniteresting to fans.
By the way, the technique she tried to use against Yoruichi is called Shunko if I remember correctly.
Sakura Kaijuu
08-15-2006, 09:31 PM
Hmm...Well, the only reason I can come up with is for the sake of the plot so that Kubo can expand on her powers later without having to make her go through training, etc. Leaving a few things to the readers' imagination never hurt anyone. :)
Especially since Soi Fon's shikai was so badass in the first place.
And yes, I believe Yoruichi's technique is called Shunko.
Insipidipity
08-16-2006, 01:00 AM
Just chalk it up to the plot(hole)
HugeGuy
08-16-2006, 01:29 AM
Just chalk it up to the plot(hole)
Well, it's not exactly a plothole. Soi Fong was all about showing off in that fight. She boasted that her speed is superior to Yoruichi, emphasised that her shikai no longer has a time limit and then there's her trump card--Shunko.
Soi Fong was so confident that she was the founder of this technique that when Yoruichi finally revealed her version of shunko and easily overpowered Soi Fong, she lost all the will to fight. So the fight ended right there before Soi Fong had the chance to use bankai.
That or maybe her bankai isn't effective against Yoruichi.
Kisame
08-16-2006, 01:37 AM
That or maybe her bankai isn't effective against Yoruichi.
thats because like Urahara her bankai is suited for that situation.
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ShiNoKami
08-16-2006, 03:15 AM
What if she doesn't even have one? Byakuya stated that the 4 noble houses are born with a reiatsu higher than others and that only one person in several generations will be able to attain Bankai. No where does it say that you have to achieve Bankai to be a captain. The three ways stated by Tousen are:
1) To pass a general test given by at least 3 captains, including the captain-commander.
2) To be recommended by 6 captains and for at least 3 of the other 7 to approve it.
3) Defeat the current captain in front of a 200 person council.
Soi Fong may just be that bad-ass of a fighter and that skilled of a shinigami. Bankai doesn't necessarily have to factor into it.
kimidoll
08-16-2006, 04:42 AM
But Yoruchi herself told Ichigo that all the captains except for Kenpachi had bankai
I think Soifon just wanted to prove to her that she was stronger too. Both of them used mainly hakudo (Or whatever hand-to-han combat is), some shunpo, and shunko. Or maybe she thought her two-hit shikai was enough to defeat Yurouchi in the first place, I don't think Soifon wanted to really kill her (At first anyways)
HugeGuy
08-16-2006, 07:22 AM
What if she doesn't even have one? Byakuya stated that the 4 noble houses are born with a reiatsu higher than others and that only one person in several generations will be able to attain Bankai. No where does it say that you have to achieve Bankai to be a captain. The three ways stated by Tousen are:
1) To pass a general test given by at least 3 captains, including the captain-commander.
2) To be recommended by 6 captains and for at least 3 of the other 7 to approve it.
3) Defeat the current captain in front of a 200 person council.
Soi Fong may just be that bad-ass of a fighter and that skilled of a shinigami. Bankai doesn't necessarily have to factor into it.
Yoruichi stated herself that all captains except Kenpachi has a bankai so Soi Fong is guaranteed to have one especially when she's the closest captain to Yoruichi.
Sasori
08-16-2006, 01:01 PM
That or maybe her bankai isn't effective against Yoruichi.
Her Bankai grants Soi Fong's shikai the ability to vibrate. :nuts
HugeGuy
08-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Her Bankai grants Soi Fong's shikai the ability to vibrate. :nuts
That sound wrong.:laugh
But seriously, if the frequency of the vibration is high enough then Soi Fong's 2 hits kill automatically becomes a 1 hit instant KO.
Kisame
08-16-2006, 03:17 PM
All bankais are MASSIVE
But the main reason she didnt use bankai is because she really didnt want to kill yoruichi. She still....loved her <.<
Sasori
08-16-2006, 03:24 PM
That sound wrong.:laugh
But seriously, if the frequency of the vibration is high enough then Soi Fong's 2 hits kill automatically becomes a 1 hit instant KO.
lol it wos supposed to sound wrong xD
Here's the math:
Shikai on finger + Vibration = GG Yourichi :nuts
Insipidipity
08-17-2006, 08:30 AM
Well, it's not exactly a plothole. Soi Fong was all about showing off in that fight. She boasted that her speed is superior to Yoruichi, emphasised that her shikai no longer has a time limit and then there's her trump card--Shunko.
Soi Fong was so confident that she was the founder of this technique that when Yoruichi finally revealed her version of shunko and easily overpowered Soi Fong, she lost all the will to fight. So the fight ended right there before Soi Fong had the chance to use bankai.
That or maybe her bankai isn't effective against Yoruichi.
The whole point of showing off Shunko was because it was something she thought she had and Yoruichi didn't, so it would only make sense that she use bankai since that was also something she had that Yoruichi didn't.
but yourichi was from one of the noble familys and was once the 2nd division captian so it would make sense for her to also have bankai
Pimp of Pimps
08-28-2006, 12:54 AM
but yourichi was from one of the noble familys and was once the 2nd division captian so it would make sense for her to also have bankai
She wasn't the 2nd division captian as far as we know.
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The awnser is quite obvious. Soi Fon wasn't exactly panting and shunko should have brung her power up anough that she thought Yourichi was toast. And when shee saw Yourichi so easily defeaat her, she lost it.
Hat Hair
08-28-2006, 01:31 AM
The awnser is quite obvious. Soi Fon wasn't exactly panting and shunko should have brung her power up anough that she thought Yourichi was toast. And when shee saw Yourichi so easily defeaat her, she lost it.
Pretty much; it was a psychological fight moreso than a simple beatdown, which is also why Tousen didn't slit Kenpachi's throat or why Ichigo didn't run his sword through Byakuya's skull upon their initial advantages.
Insipidipity
08-28-2006, 01:39 AM
Actually another possiblity is simply that Yoruichi might already know her bankai and already be able to beat it so she'd lose on the surprise factor.
hao_asakura
08-28-2006, 01:50 AM
yeah probably she couldnt use her bankai because she still some feeling for yoruichi...after all, yoruichi is someone who she admired a long time ago...and probably still....
Bankai wouldn't have proved her point considering achieving bankai is nothing unique or original for any strong character. Soifon thought that Shunko was an original move and aimed to impress Yoruichi with it and attempt to demonstrate that she had surpassed her
Nihongofreak
08-28-2006, 06:43 PM
i think its because she didnt actually aim to kill yoruichi, just to impress her and show her how strong she became without her
Parell
08-28-2006, 09:22 PM
i think its because she didnt actually aim to kill yoruichi, just to impress her and show her how strong she became without her
QFT. Throughout the whole battle she had many chances to kill Yourichi.
Ruach
08-28-2006, 09:54 PM
I'm guessing because Soifon's Kidou/combat attack was more powerful, or practical than her Bankai. Afterall it is shown that Yoruichi, even though she has a Zanpakuto (as shown when she and Soifon come to stop Aizen and co.) she never uses it. Remember that Sword fighting is only on third of Shinigami's combat palet.
Waffletime!
08-28-2006, 09:55 PM
I agree with Nihongo freak. She just wanted to show her master how much she's trained the past 100 years. :amuse
cinosweiv
08-29-2006, 01:55 AM
Kuba just wants to keep all the favourite/potentially important characters' bankai until the right time coming.
Urahara, Yamamoto, Shunsui, Ukitake, Yorouchi (perhaps) and others are all people we die for to see the bankai. So, Kubo just teases us a bit to wait.
Corgi
08-30-2006, 09:41 PM
probably cos she couldnt?
Finvarra
08-31-2006, 05:47 PM
Maby I am just viewing this to simply, however, as far as I could see soi fon did use her bankai, with intent to kill yoruichi but simply failed, as yoruichi was able to aviode being hit in the same place twice.
So she reorted to flash attacks in attempt to beet her, but at that point yoruichi proved to soi fon that the move she had come up with was not new and that she was not as good as her yet. She proved it by nulifying soi fons last fue attacks.
So over all Yoruichi would not have seen a point to useing bankai againt soi fon. Althrough this part is less certain I am unsure if ether of them really wonted to kill each other or not, but soi fon deffently seemed to try to.
Anyways thats my view hehe
clouded_fate
08-31-2006, 06:44 PM
yoruichi without shikai, was able to defeat soi fongs shikai. if soi fong went bankai, yoruichi would have gone bankai, and she would be in a really bad condition
TheGenius
09-03-2006, 10:59 AM
Because Soi Fon probably thought that if she was able to use Shunpo/Shunko (not sure of spelling) then it would be a bigger asset than Bankai.
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