Luffy vs Spiderman

[Coaxmetal]

The fight takes place in New York and it is the current spiderman which is fighting the most recent Luffy. Who would win?

[Captain Pimp]

What's with all these Luffy vs. some1 battles??

Back to topic: Luffy wins.
Luffy: Gomu Gomu no Gatling Gun!
*spidey goes through 5 buildings

[Pipboy]

Current as in the iron spider uniform, and with the other upgrade.

[Coaxmetal]

Current as in the iron spider uniform, and with the other upgrade.
Yes with all that stuff

[Pipboy]

Hmmm, lets see, luffy is stronger and more durable. Spiderman has his stingers to do damage, but luffy is very resitant to all forms of damage, penetration included and teh stingers are not an integral part of his current offensive style. Of course with luffy being as powerful as he is overwhelming situations will be a dime a dozen so they will be emerging all the time.

Spiderman is faster on defense than Luffy, the spidersense however is very much an inferior copy of the mantra in what it does for defense. So despite this defensive evasion advantage Luffy will land blows.

Luffy is faster overall than spiderman with gear two, though in his base form he may not be. That is mostly irrelevant as when gear 2 dies down the fight will be over. Without a precognitive aid to his offense for the duration of gear two spiderman will be at a serious disadvantage and will mostly hitting air.

Luffy is defintely stronger with spidemans 25-50 ton lift beign nothing compared to luffy's 500+ ton lift. This also unfortunately for spiderman means that luffy can tear through his webbing.

The iron spider uniform helps Spiderman alot, that combined with his abilty to endure blunt for trauma. However the extreme damage that Luffy can pump out, breaking the tekkai of lucchi who is a creature of durabilty on par with super bricks.

Luffy also has incredible resistance to poison.

Spiderman is a foe that only just entered into the competing arena with his recent upgrades. Nothing sort of the symbiote version/cosmic previously could win against luffy. The upgrades will help, but they aren't enough to level the playing field against the multiple upgrades that luffy has recieved.

Spiderman is going to hop around alot, then he is going to get hit. That hit is going to hurt him very badly. And then its over because as his mobilty drops of luffy is going to start pounding him and isn't going to let up until he is dead, and spiderman can't hope to survive even the assualts of a un geared luffy.

[Keollyn]

Spiderman is faster on defense than Luffy, the spidersense however is very much an inferior copy of the mantra in what it does for defense. So despite this defensive evasion advantage Luffy will land blows.



This makes no sense whatsoever.

[Pipboy]

Spidersense is limited defensive precognition. Mantra is offensive precognition. Against a living foe the difference is lost. Spidesense is more all purpose when compared against mechanical foes and others. But mantra in addition to giving the exact nature of the coming attack it tells the nature of the opponents movement. Thus is suprior to the spidersense against a living foe.

[Keollyn]

No, you said that Spider sense COPIED Mantra.... How does the past copy the future?

[Coaxmetal]

Mantra is not that great. :notrust

[Pipboy]

An inferior copied in function. Limited Defensive precognition versus extensive defensive specific offensive precognition. I fail to see why grasping my meaning is such a challenge. Both moves predict future hazards.

And yes while mantra might not be all that great it is still for the purposes of a hand to hand fight a better tool than the spidersense.

[Endless Mike]

Have you read Infinity Abyss? His Spider-sense gave him an exact map to a place on the other side of the state and exactly when he had to be there.

[Pipboy]

Yes, but in a fight like this one, the spider sense offers no advantage over mantra. In fact that application of the spidersense as all field radar is a deparation/concentration move that is only really going to help him not get blindsided, which is not really what is going to get him killed in this match.

[Coaxmetal]

Have you read Infinity Abyss? His Spider-sense gave him an exact map to a place on the other side of the state and exactly when he had to be there.
Got to love those comic writers that take powers and go crazy with them :P

[Pipboy]

Yeah it makes you want to wring their little bitch necks. Its cool if all the other writers get with the programs or this is part of the plan, but its a fucking irritating thing when some new writer decides to forget that so and so can actually do that shit, and then throws them some problem that could be solved in an instant if spiderman did what he did twenty issues ago, but has convienietly forgtten to make this challenging.

Its like my desire to wring a certain writers neck for forgetting that his character could summon gigantic unbalanced toads in a pivitol winner take all fight.

[Azure-kun]

unless Luffy doesn't use his "Gears"(no sexual pun Intended) I can see spider-man winning this due to spider sense & Homefield advantage

P.S. Symbionite spider would do an awsome amount of damage to luffy IMO

[Spidey]

Just for the record, all the symboite did was provide unlimted webbing and could alter its appearance. it probably wouldn't help too much.

as for the fight, I won't say too much since I'm not caught up on one piece manga. But for spidey to win, he'd probably have to come up with some super enhanced webbing or chemical to use on luffy.

[Pipboy]

Symbiote made spidey a good deal more powerful, faster, stronger... Firelord....

The fight was BS true, but symbiote spiderman is very much more potent than the standard version. Think on it. Venom is the symbiote on a normal dude.

[Keollyn]

An inferior copied in function. Limited Defensive precognition versus extensive defensive specific offensive precognition. I fail to see why grasping my meaning is such a challenge. Both moves predict future hazards.

And yes while mantra might not be all that great it is still for the purposes of a hand to hand fight a better tool than the spidersense.

Its a challenge when you blatantly state incorrect information. But since this is hard for YOU, I'll give you some assistance.

Copy:

- imitate: reproduce someone's behavior or looks; "The mime imitated the passers-by"; "Children often copy their parents or older siblings"
- a secondary representation of an original; "she made a copy of the designer dress"
- a reproduction or imitation of an original

Now there's no possible way for the spider sense to been an inferior copy of the Mantra AT ALL. One cannot copy something if it PREDATES the source in which it imitates. I don't care which one is better... but don't try and say stuff that isn't true in the process.

[Spidey]

actually, when spidey fought firelord, that was just a black cloth costume (which he started wearing cuz black cat thought it was sexy). And there's an issue of ASM where venom tells spidey that "the reason the symbiote did not increase his strength was because it was already agumented. But when it got attached to eddie, it greatly increased his strength cuz he was just a normal guy" or something like that. I'll try to find it.

But trust me, spidey only wore the actual alein costume from ASM #252-258 (when he found out it was living off him). He then switched off and on from his original duds and the black cloth suit. The only instance when the symboite enhanced spidey's strength was in the 90's animated series.

[Riley]

I swear I wanna strangle you OP Luffy fans so badly It's not even funny. Luffy wins sadly because of his Gears,which will make him beat the ever living crap out of Spiderman.

[Pipboy]

Its a challenge when you blatantly state incorrect information. But since this is hard for YOU, I'll give you some assistance.

Copy:

- imitate: reproduce someone's behavior or looks; "The mime imitated the passers-by"; "Children often copy their parents or older siblings"
- a secondary representation of an original; "she made a copy of the designer dress"
- a reproduction or imitation of an original

Now there's no possible way for the spider sense to been an inferior copy of the Mantra AT ALL. One cannot copy something if it PREDATES the source in which it imitates. I don't care which one is better... but don't try and say stuff that isn't true in the process.

Are you shitting me? This is the worst attempt at recovery I have ever seen.

NO SHIT SPIDER SENSE CAME FIRST!

And Peredur was blinded by the light of the holy grail and lost his sight but gained sight beyond sight, but no one is crowing that the spider sense is a copy of that.

Temporal relationships are irrelevant as the FUNCTION is the thing in question. I honestly don't give a flying fuck which one came first because it is absolutely irrelevant to my arguement.

MANTRA IS BETTER FOR THIS ENCOUNTER THUS SPIDER SENSE IS THE INFERIOR COPY OF THIS PARTICULAR STYLE OF EXTRASENSORY PERCEPETION! NAMELY DEFENSIVE PRECOGNITION!

Both spider sense and mantras are copies of the same base abilty, defensive/offensive precognition. Since matra has both and spidersense is only defensive precognition I fail to see how you can make an arguement out of wording.

There are very few original ideas and spider sense aint one of them, like all superheros they are all copies of some myth before them.

Lets use copy in this sentance. I have a better copy of the van Hellsing DVD than you because yours is scratched. It doesn't matter if you bought your fucking disc before mine was minted but they are both copies and the sentance is correct.

[konflikti]

Internet. Serious business.

I'm afraid it's been said many times already how this is going to end.

[Renegade]

The fight takes place in New York
Is there a lake or river near by that Luffy can fall in? Because that would probably be Spidey's only shot.

[Pipboy]

Manhattan, where the fight takes place is an island. A decently large island with no major bodies of water internally save a few in central park. There is effectively no water unless spiderman decides to go to it in which case there is.

[SoulTaker540]

Spidey without prep loses bad with prep he can take it,he is considered a genius and could be up there with Reed and Tony if he studied more.Out of curiosuity though where does OP rank on the sterngth spectrum,Marvel class wise.

[Dr.Douchebag]

I swear I wanna strangle you OP Luffy fans so badly It's not even funny. Luffy wins sadly because of his Gears,which will make him beat the ever living crap out of Spiderman.

pretty soon we'll have threads like "luffy durability>thanos durability?" or "luffy>thanos?" :nuts

the day is not far....not far at all.......

[Pipboy]

Spidey without prep loses bad with prep he can take it,he is considered a genius and could be up there with Reed and Tony if he studied more.Out of curiosuity though where does OP rank on the sterngth spectrum,Marvel class wise.

Depends. Luffy and zoro have 500ish ton lifts, sanji is presumably as fast and like most anime characters they have speed proportional to their strength. Demi speedster I would say, spiderman or another mega agile with a hint of quicksilver. Not much just a hint.

One piece also has some stupidly powerful absolute abilties. IE abilty to become lightning, and onyl be harmed by non conductors. There is also a host of absolute abilties. Like abilty to make a door in any substance, or a soap based power that can clean metaphysical concepts.

Marvel world classes are about as powerful to way more powerful than OP characters overall but OP chars spend what power they have in a better way.

DC world class is ahead of OP.

[The Wanderer]

In a slugfest Spidey will lose in the long run. He can land a few hits with his waldoes (Damaging Luffy's body for real . . . I mean, he was able to stab Titanium Man's helmet with those). Otherwise, he'll use his brains to learn how to deal with Luffy's rubber body, putting his waldoes and/or stingers to better use, going Solid Snake when needed. I think that if Spidey doesn't do anything reckless he'll win, but it'll be a pain in the tuchas, specially when dealing with Gear 2-Gear 3