Knight VS Samurai! Round 2!

[exmorte]

Okay lets say we have to fights here, one a knight with a longsword, and another where knight and samurai can use any weapon abailable to them at the time.
A large grassy meadow (with pretty flowers) is our battlefeild, both have foreknowledge of the duel, and time to prepare (but no traps or anything the feild of battle is undisturbed).

Who would win?

(also check this out http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm)

I am going with a knight, in both fights, because of
A: The size advantage
B: The Vareity of weapon advantage
C: The Infighting (using hilt and hands as well as sword) advantage

[Hangatýr]

This has been done before.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=70287

[exmorte]

damn, well thats what i get for not searching... however the sheer excellence of me, and the fact that my poll has greater variety allows me to pretend I didnt see that. And as you can see this is round 2!

HAH IN YOUR FACE GOOD SIR! *does victory dance to FF1 victory music* (this is just humor good sir, please do not eat my babies)

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Samurai >>> Knight imo

[Hangatýr]

Knights are slower than Samurai, but Knights'd do more damage on hit, but I'm giving it to Samurai in the end.

[Giovanni Rild]

The longsword is a bonebreaking weapon as well as a slashing weapon. the long sword is too heavy to use a sheild with also.

A longswordsman relies on chainmail or platemail to protect himself from attack as well as parring and other defensive skills.

medevial swordsmen also knew many wrestling styles in case they got disarmed. A samural's main weapon is the katana, a decapitating weapon and the wakizashi was used in case the Katana wasn't in reach.

Also samurai used hand to hand combat techs like jujutsu and like the Knight, the Samurai were familar with many weapons.

The Knight would bring a Bardiche(a polearm) instead of a slow longsword, get outmanuvered and get beheaded.

I might be wrong so correct me if I am

[ZergKage]

Knights by far. And no anime is gonna change that

[exmorte]

The longsword is a bonebreaking weapon as well as a slashing weapon. the long sword is too heavy to use a sheild with also.

medevial swordsmen also knew many wrestling styles in case they got disarmed. A samural's main weapon is the katana, a decapitating weapon and the wakizashi was used in case the Katana wasn't in reach.


Actually the typical longsword only had around four more pounds of weight than a Katana (for the good size advantage it kinda evens it out)
And Samurai used bow and spear moreso than katana. Katana were a last resort weapon (or used by the infantry that are slaughtered en masse) Bushido is the art of Bow and Horesback IIRC.

On a side note despite being effective against metal, it is very unlikely that the samurais sword would be able to penetrate the knights armor (even the chainmail at its peak couldve prevented most of the katanas strikes)
The whole samurai cutting bullets is BS, and so are most of the things accepted as fact about samurai.

As for knights they were not as many think, slow or unskilled in the arts of war. The Samurai armor was lighter yes (unless its raining then the silk weighs it down but lets assume its a clear day) however knights were suprisingly nimble.

[Giovanni Rild]

Actually the typical longsword only had around four more pounds of weight than a Katana (for the good size advantage it kinda evens it out)
And Samurai used bow and spear moreso than katana. Katana were a last resort weapon (or used by the infantry that are slaughtered en masse) Bushido is the art of Bow and Horesback IIRC.

On a side note despite being effective against metal, it is very unlikely that the samurais sword would be able to penetrate the knights armor (even the chainmail at its peak couldve prevented most of the katanas strikes)
The whole samurai cutting bullets is BS, and so are most of the things accepted as fact about samurai.

As for knights they were not as many think, slow or unskilled in the arts of war. The Samurai armor was lighter yes (unless its raining then the silk weighs it down but lets assume its a clear day) however knights were suprisingly nimble.

Of course, in a war the polearm would be first to be used. But I'm talking about duels and such. And a Knight would not use a longsword in a duel with a Samurai if he knew what he's capable of. The knight would use the pole arm for range or the battle axe w/ sheild or a war hammer

[exmorte]

Yeah, however the longsword is more comparable to a katana than a short sword, which is why I said what I said. And the hammer, would probably be the most effective weapon (blunt force trauma ftw!)

[GoldenJoe]

i say samurai

[Endless Mike]

The knight would win easily, the samurai can't hurt him through his armor.

[Pipboy]

KNights come from a supirior martial tradition. Plus they have way better gear.

A bastard sword could be short weilded, used as a hammer or a spear. Specialty polearms, axes, flails, morning stars and the odd Martel de Ferr would bring this down on the side of the knight.

A samurai with a bow could win. But so can a yeoman archer, or a loser with a crossbow.

[Giovanni Rild]

KNights come from a supirior martial tradition. Plus they have way better gear.

A bastard sword could be short weilded, used as a hammer or a spear. Specialty polearms, axes, flails, morning stars and the odd Martel de Ferr would bring this down on the side of the knight.

A samurai with a bow could win. But so can a yeoman archer, or a loser with a crossbow.

He didn't say a Hand and a half sword, he said a long sword.

[Pipboy]

I cover hand and a half under w/e which was my vote.

Anyway a WarHammer and a kite shield would be the best combo, that or a battle axe.

[blacklusterseph004]

Depending on what the knight is equiped with, I think he wins this one. maybe not easilu, but he takes it in the end. Longswords would be very effect as they are primarily a thrusting weapon. Samurai armour was designed to stop slicing cuts, not stabs, so his armour's effectiveness is reduced. Knights equiped with the steel armours produced toward the end of the age, would be mostly invincible, even without a shield. Samurai used asymetrical bows, which have a much shorter range than western bows. Also, because they didn't face enemies who used full plate armour, I'm not sure that they would have developed the armour-piercing arrow heads required to breach plate-mail. It's all looking quite bleak for the samurai...

[Hangatýr]

The only way for Samurai to do damage would be to hit between the armor, or somehow knock the Knight over.

[Seany]

Samurais win! XD

[Megaharrison]

I'll just use a made a very long time ago.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=3261870&postcount=7

That sums it up.

[Gaelek_13]

Samurai >>>>> Knight

Samurai ftw

[Endless Mike]

Samurai >>>>> Knight

Samurai ftw

And your proof is?

[Giovanni Rild]

And your proof is?

Because he wishes it to be of course

[Kisame]

so this is basically Gatts vs Kenshin <.<

[Pipboy]

Yeah and we know how that turns out....