Alucard vs SSJ 4 Goku!! OOOO!!

[thewinterknight]

Since Goku's SSJ 4 form is so powerful but so energy-draining, what if he had something that allowed him to stay in his SSJ 4 for as long as he want ( I know it's impossible but I'm trying to give Goku a fair handicap here.)

*A elderly referee walks up and pulls out a microphone*

Gentlemen! Ladies! And children! Here in that corner is SSJ 4 Goku!! This badass is capable of blowing up worlds and surviving world-threatening blows!!

And in the other corner is Alucard!! The epitome of undead and Dracula himself!! He took down a god without even trying!! (He did take down Sett, an ancient god, down in the anime)

Both those muthas' are the most badassest of everything in the universe!!

*The referee coughs and clear his throat*

Dangburn it, I need to stop now *The referee steps out of the ring, and a younger, more fit, referee takes his place*

Note: This thread is different from other threads that Goku is at SSJ 4 not his normal form. And Alucard can use ANYTHING he has.

This isn't meant to be taken seriously but rather a fun thread.

Have fun!smile-big

["Shion"]

Yo! Whats up? Well... ummmm... nice fight, but Alucard wins it.:smile

[Endless Mike]

How the fuck does Alucard win? Alucard is so overrated on this board it's not even funny. He gets vaporized in one blast and dies.

[Havoc]

Even if Goku just stood there, Alucard has no way of hurting him.

[thewinterknight]

How the fuck does Alucard win? Alucard is so overrated on this board it's not even funny. He gets vaporized in one blast and dies.


I guess so... But Alucard did take down a god and all, IIRC, Goku hasn't taken down a god, but can the Dragon Ball dragons be labeled as 'gods'?

Goku did take down the dragons, with some help, sometimes.

IIRC, Ki isn't magicial or physical. I could label it as in 'between' if you understand that?

We have seen both characters' true powers. The only question is can Alucard use his 'hellish' powers to kill Goku, or is Goku simply too fast for him, Goku do have that "Instant Teleporation" after all...

[Endless Mike]

Alucard beat the Christian Demon Set, not the Egyptian God Set, not to mention a title means nothing unless you have power to back it up, and that was non - canon anyway.

[thewinterknight]

Ya, that's true, I suppose.

But this is supposed to be a fun thread, not a totally 'serious' thread.

[Comic Book Guy]

Mention that in the first post.

Plus, with the choice of characters, few people would think of this as a joke thread.

A joke thread would be Chuck Norris' kick vs. Zidane's headbutt.

[earthshine]

Goku wins.


you can't regenrate from being blown into oblivion.


goku can destroy planets like it is nothing, and if he felt like it gold take alucards Jackal, put it to his head, and unload it on himslef with no damage whatsoever.


alucard is powerful, but goku can end an entire solar system if he felt like it.

[Tower Bridge]

Goku is too much for Alucard.

[thewinterknight]

Mention that in the first post.

Plus, with the choice of characters, few people would think of this as a joke thread.

A joke thread would be Chuck Norris' kick vs. Zidane's headbutt.


Sorry, I'll mention that.

[Psysalis]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/psysalis/Goku2.gif

ftw

[omg laser pew pew!]

Again people, give the thread creator a break. He's obviously knew here and considering that Alucard has been in some other threads and done well, he thought he could take on Goku

Everyone makes mistakes but flaming someone that seriously didn't know is being a prick

[Hangatýr]

Goku wins.


you can't regenrate from being blown into oblivion.


goku can destroy planets like it is nothing, and if he felt like it gold take alucards Jackal, put it to his head, and unload it on himslef with no damage whatsoever.


alucard is powerful, but goku can end an entire solar system if he felt like it.
When exactly has he destroyed planets like it's nothing?

[omg laser pew pew!]

Well Brolly easily blew one up

[Hangatýr]

Brolly =/= Goku

When has Goku ever blown up a planet, even in non-canon?

[Toffeeman]

Since when was Super Saiyan 4 "so energy draining" in the first place?

[Hangatýr]

I think the threadcreator had SSJ3 Goku in mind.

[thewinterknight]

I think the threadcreator had SSJ3 Goku in mind.


No, I had SSJ 4 Goku in mind. Since that's the pinnacle of Goku's strength, and Alucard also has all of his restraints released, I did say that Alucard could use anything.

Nice to see that some people are nice here instead of being flamers, and haters.

[Hangatýr]

I was referring to you perceiving SSJ4 as 'draining'.

[thewinterknight]

I was referring to you perceiving SSJ4 as 'draining'.


IIRC, Goku could only use his SSJ 4 form for a short amount of time. Or I may be wrong... Someone please clear this up for me, please.

[Kuya]

Can someone please explain to me what the definition of "non-canon" is? or canon? I really don't know. Thanks.

[Hangatýr]

Canon = Generally accepted or official. For example, what ever happens in the Naruto manga is canon, but things that did not happen in the manga but do in the anime are non-canon and filler.

[Toffeeman]

IIRC, Goku could only use his SSJ 4 form for a short amount of time. Or I may be wrong... Someone please clear this up for me, please.
He could naturally stay in Super Saiyan 4 form for as long as he wanted. There were only actually 4 instances in the entire series were he loses the form due to a lack of power:

- When he uses more than 2 Jubei (x10) Kamehameha's.
- When he is constantly using IT.
- When he uses his light kamikaze technique.
- When he attempts to fuse too often.

All the other times he appears to loose it are when he is getting beaten around. It certainly wasn't as draining as Super Saiyan 3 was.

[Kuya]

Canon = Generally accepted or official. For example, what ever happens in the Naruto manga is canon, but things that did not happen in the manga but do in the anime are non-canon and filler.

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[thewinterknight]

He could naturally stay in Super Saiyan 4 form for as long as he wanted. There were only actually 4 instances in the entire series were he loses the form due to a lack of power:

- When he uses more than 2 Jubei (x10) Kamehameha's.
- When he is constantly using IT.
- When he uses his light kamikaze technique.
- When he attempts to fuse too often.

All the other times he appears to loose it are when he is getting beaten around. It certainly wasn't as draining as Super Saiyan 3 was.


Ah! I see, thanks for your post, that cleared alot up!

[Dr.Jre32]

man goku owns everything in the anime world

[Hangatýr]

man goku owns everything in the anime world
To quote Lex Luthor: "WRONG!"

[shadycheese]

ok u guys need to chill out
no ones goin to die over this i admit goku is probally stronger but i like Alucard

[Captain Pimp]

I'm a very BIG Alucard fan, but if any1 can say it in a few sentences as to how Goku kills Alucard, I'll accept that.

[Comic Book Guy]

man goku owns everything in the anime world

*sighs*

[thewinterknight]

man goku owns everything in the anime world

That's a very, very good example of a biased argument. Care to elaborate how he can utterly OWNS anything in the anime world?

As far as I know Goku haven't been shot by anyone with a gun similiar to Alucard's pistols.

Matter of fact, I can only remember three example of guns in the entire saga of DB, DBZ, and DGT.

The first one was the bazooka against Gohan in Saiyanman (Please tell me if I spelt it right.) and the other example was when a grief-stricken Hercules shot Buu (He missed completely btw)

And the last exampel I can think of is when a couple of people shot Buu's dog.
Again I can't remember Buu's dog's name, sorry.

So, how could you make the argument that Goku can OWNS anything in the anime world if he haven't faced off a specific attack yet, such as guns.

If any of you knows of any more example of guns in the entire saga, please post it.

[Endless Mike]

In the very first chapter of Dragonball, Bulma shot Goku on the head with a pistol and all it did was give him a bruise and he said 'ouch'.

(This scene was cut from the English dub)

[thewinterknight]

In the very first chapter of Dragonball, Bulma shot Goku on the head with a pistol and all it did was give him a bruise and he said 'ouch'.

(This scene was cut from the English dub)

Is the gunshot in the US manga version?

[Endless Mike]

I'm not sure. Probably.

[Hangatýr]

It is, he just says 'ow'. But then again, I don't think Bulma's little handgun is comparable to Joshua and Jackal.

[thewinterknight]

It is, he just says 'ow'. But then again, I don't think Bulma's little handgun is comparable to Joshua and Jackal.

You're probably right, after all. Bulma shot the gun with no visible recoil IIRC someone please clear that up.

While Alucard's guns are meant to kill... It has been stated that his guns are too much for any humans to handle. Mainly because of the weight and the wicked kickback.

And besides, he has the spiffy blessed ammos'.

[Hangatýr]

The guns are mainly for style, though. Alucard doesn't need them.

[thewinterknight]

Ya, they just look spiffy...

But Alucard's hellhound is pretty spiffy too...

[Giovanni Rild]

Alucard can't be killed by just brute force, he's a supernatural being of a high calibur, So blowing him up would not work

[thewinterknight]

Alucard can't be killed by just brute force, he's a supernatural being of a high calibur, So blowing him up would not work

That was what Tsuk and and Pip and I was arguing with Mike about on the thread 'any way of beating Alucard?'

At last! We have a debater that can tell Mike off!

[Endless Mike]

Alucard can't be killed by just brute force, he's a supernatural being of a high calibur, So blowing him up would not work

No - limits fallacy.

You can't assume he would be immune to any magnitude of attack just because he has survived the attacks seen so far.

[Sasori]

No - limits fallacy.

You can't assume he would be immune to any magnitude of attack just because he has survived the attacks seen so far.

lol @ the repeating debate...

[thewinterknight]

lol @ the repeating debate...

Yes, btw is it sinful to feel so happy that I'm not in the spotlight?

I almost feel bad for the young kids....

Almost..

[Giovanni Rild]

No - limits fallacy.

You can't assume he would be immune to any magnitude of attack just because he has survived the attacks seen so far.

He's a vampire, infact the most powerful one, Dracula. Very few things can Kill Dracula, really only one, purifacation.

In all the movies and legends, everyone failed to kill Dracula because stuff that kills normal booldsuckers don't affect him and stuff that kills living beings Don't do a damn thing to him, like nukes.

The only thing that harms most incarnations of Dracula, not including Alucard is sunlight. Even when killed by sunlight he comess back.

I heard a rumor that Goku's sprit bomb destorys evil. If that's true, then Kakarot can kill Alucard. If not then he's vamp chow.

[Riley]

Goku cannot kill Alucard,as he himself said "In a story It is always a human that can kill a monster.", meaning he can't be killed since he's a Saiyan and not human.Plus,he's been blasted to bits before check the last episode of Hellsing,when he get's vaporized by Incognito he's able to recover with the usage of blood which is the only thing keeping him alive after being blasted to bits.

I'm too lazy to go into specifics so here's a few scans to show everyone his skills,and you tell me who is stronger.

http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume5.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=7128

Can Goku keep up with Alucard when he releases control art 3,2,and 1? No I didn't think so.

Also for all of you who doubt his healing abilities check this, out even thought he was blasted a million times by Rocket launchers,he still survived,and count his fight with Anderson using the nail of Elena had powers nearly to Goku's potential.

http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume5.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=7164


Now notice what happens when he's at the point of regeneration and picture what would happen If he did this to Goku.

http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume5.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=7170

[omg laser pew pew!]

*snip*

Did you know that ss4 Goku could lift up a city? That's at least class 200 in strength. What is Alucard's greatest physical feat?
Do you think Alucard is faster? Obviously you haven't seen him perform zanzoken

Durability? Alucard can be hurt by rocket launchers. Nappa took on a whole navy and air force fleet without being hurt at all and that was at the beginning of DBZ. Heck Goku at the beginning dealt with Pilaf who lauched loads of rockets at him

Just to ask something, has Alurcard regenerated from his whole body completely vaporised? I don't mean a little bit remaining, I mean a kamehameha that completel envelopes his whole body destroying any blood that might leak out

[ZergKage]

Maybe this has been covered before(and if so i apologize for not reading everything)

But doesnt Buu regen like Alucard? If so, and they killed Buu cant they kill Alucard the same way????

[Captain Pimp]

sigh..I hate seeing Alucard getting owned..It's just not right..

I haven't seen DBZ to the end. but with you guys saying Goku is far superior than Alucard, that's great! As long as this battle never exists :laugh

[Giovanni Rild]

Maybe this has been covered before(and if so i apologize for not reading everything)

But doesnt Buu regen like Alucard? If so, and they killed Buu cant they kill Alucard the same way????

He's a damn vampire,the most powerful infact. You can't kill him like every other average joe

[Kuya]

He's a damn vampire,the most powerful infact. You can't kill him like every other average joe

Goku is SSJ4. Not that many fighters can keep up with his speed or take in his attacks. You can't kill him like every other average joe.

[Riley]

Did you know that ss4 Goku could lift up a city? That's at least class 200 in strength. What is Alucard's greatest physical feat?
Do you think Alucard is faster? Obviously you haven't seen him perform zanzoken

Durability? Alucard can be hurt by rocket launchers. Nappa took on a whole navy and air force fleet without being hurt at all and that was at the beginning of DBZ. Heck Goku at the beginning dealt with Pilaf who lauched loads of rockets at him

Just to ask something, has Alurcard regenerated from his whole body completely vaporised? I don't mean a little bit remaining, I mean a kamehameha that completel envelopes his whole body destroying any blood that might leak out

If you count the fact that a rocket launcher can blow him to hell with ever shot practically vaporizing him then yes. That pic I showed you was him beginning to regenerate,plus I doubt Alucard was trying since he never does unless he goes against Anderson.

He's able regenerate If Goku or anyone else has any blood left on the battleground that's what he uses to replenish himself,like the saying goes If you don't drink any blood you die, though If there's any drops of blood either him or Goku he steals that to use to keep himself,alive If remember right.

Dude check the pic,his face and his body was half blow off,he hardly had any blood left,he still survives.

Sigh* I wish there was an anime that pits characters against each other so I could see who'd likely win.

[omg laser pew pew!]

If you count the fact that a rocket launcher can blow him to hell with ever shot practically vaporizing him then yes. That pic I showed you was him beginning to regenerate,plus I doubt Alucard was trying since he never does unless he goes against Anderson.

He's able regenerate If Goku or anyone else has any blood left on the battleground that's what he uses to replenish himself,like the saying goes If you don't drink any blood you die, though If there's any drops of blood either him or Goku he steals that to use to keep himself,alive If remember right.

Dude check the pic,his face and his body was half blow off,he hardly had any blood left,he still survives.

Sigh* I wish there was an anime that pits characters against each other so I could see who'd likely win.

You're missing the point. A rocket can hurt Alucard. 1000+ rockets cannot hurt ss Goku in DBZ let alone ss4 Goku.

That's a big regen difference. Alucard has no physical attack that can hurt Goku at all. Simple as that.

BTW Could Alucard regen if his whole body was vaporised?

[Giovanni Rild]

Not sure. Usually, only certain things can kill vampires. You know, the whole holy water deal. I have a feeling that he can come back from vaporazation. I'll have to read the hellsing manga

[Riley]

You're missing the point. A rocket can hurt Alucard. 1000+ rockets cannot hurt ss Goku in DBZ let alone ss4 Goku.

That's a big regen difference. Alucard has no physical attack that can hurt Goku at all. Simple as that.

BTW Could Alucard regen if his whole body was vaporised?

I just told you that HE DID get VAPORIZED,look at the scan I showed you,he easily tore through the soldiers like they were paper,when his body were turned into hands.Also If a rocket launcher could hurt him doesn't mean It's life threatening.

I,ll be right back once I look at the manga.

[omg laser pew pew!]

I just told you that HE DID get VAPORIZED,look at the scan I showed you,he easily tore through the soldiers like they were paper,when his body were turned into hands.Also If a rocket launcher could hurt him doesn't mean It's life threatening.

I,ll be right back once I look at the manga.

I said completely vaporised. Nothing left. Zilch. Zip. Nadda. Naught. Zero

[Riley]

I said completely vaporised. Nothing left. Zilch. Zip. Nadda. Naught. Zero

That's why I'm looking at the manga.

[thewinterknight]

We have yet to see Alucard survive any completely vaporizing attacks but we do know that Alucard is capable of surviving a plane crash, matter of fact he struggled it off.

[CrazyMoronX]

Goku's Genki Dama would kill Alucard, around the Frieza Saga, prior to SSJ.

[kapsi]

When exactly has he destroyed planets like it's nothing?
Your buddy andolivera4 called, he needs some help on his "Neji didn't lost to Kyubi so he's better than Yondaime" theory.

[Falco-san]

Your buddy andolivera4 called, he needs some help on his "Neji didn't lost to Kyubi so he's better than Yondaime" theory.

Ok, you have a point but IMO you are a bit harsh, maybe try to awnser his question?:P maybe he will see the point.

This goes out to Minami Ryusuke

If I can remember correctly, in the Cell saga Goku loads up a HUGE Kamehameha while hanging in air, aiming at cell, Piccolo then warns everyone to get the hell outta there because that Kamehameha had enough power to destroy the planet.

Even Cell mocks Goku, sating things like: "You wouldnt dare using something that powerfull"(Or something along those lines)

Then Goku does a warp-Kamehameha(Or however its called) and vaporises the upper body of cell, after wich he regenereates and yadda yadda yadda(By yadda I mean the DBZ story continues and isnt important anymore to this trhead).

Now offcourse you could say that he didnt launch it at earth, but when several people sense that his attack would blow up the earth I think they are right.