Tales of Symphonia (GC)

[Kagehisa]

Anyone got it ? I think it's great that we gamecube-owners finally get a decent RPG. Why should PS2 get everything :mad: ?

[Kakashiii]

It rox and its way over decent!

[Helious]

I wouldnt say way over decent. The story is predictible and weak, and as an RPG thats a bad thing to do. The fighting system is good for a hack um up game. It offers a wide variety of subquests and neat things to do (like title hunting) They try to instal replay value with the hole point system...but nothing can bring me to play it through all the way again. I practically did it all the first time through. Great game though. I just have high expectations.

[Rasuto Tenshi]

I think this game is one of the best game that are going to come out for the GC, it is one of my favorite game ever.

[Foxfire15]

This one is probably one of the best RPG's I've played in a long time.I thoughly enjoyed it and would recomend it to anyone who likes RPGs.

[SSJLance]

Yeah the game was pretty predictable, but it had its shocking moment. Still this is probably one of my favorite games out there and I racked up 60 hours on it which is a good thing to me.

[MR.Amen]

Oh man I have to wait until around December for it to come out over here. Why does everyone neglect Europe?! We always have to wait. I'm looking foward to the realtime multiplayer combat thing though, but I've heard the camera is quite dodgy when you have a few players playing.

[Matti]

Does the Ps2 version come to USA or Europe, or is it just coming to Japan?

[Kimun*]

*Looks at avatar*

Yep, I played it. It was so much fun, especially when with friends and siblings. If you have a little brother who you contently have to beat play anything, it's a great game just because of the multiplayer mode. Also I love the fact that you don't have to buy additional equipment for it except the extra controller, (I was afraid it was going to be like Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicals).

Storyline, is somewhat predictable, since that's how most RPGs are. I haven't had too many RPGs where I didn't see at least a few things coming. But what I like the most is that you can help change the predictablity in terms of relationships. If you don't like the kinda cliche Collette and Lloyd ending, you can be mean to Collete and have Lloyd become closer to any of the other characters. (Sheena and Lloyd is so adorable)

[Anime_Aries]

I loved this game. I wish that there had been more animated cut scenes though because the ones that were shown were awesome. Kratos, Zelos and Regal are my fave characters. I was so into this game that I played it for hours at a time and ended up beating it in 44 and a half hours! I hope they make a sequel, that'd be so awesome!

[Momochi_Zabuza]

The best RPG oon the GCN so far. Until Golden Sun 3 comes out or Square releases a good FC game for GCN. But otherwise Tales of Symphonia was really well done. Yea, I wished they had more anime cutscenes and if the game was a little longer. Seemed kinda short even though it had 2 discs.

[Foxfire15]

Does the Ps2 version come to USA or Europe, or is it just coming to Japan?

Japan only, sorry.

[nightangel]

Who here thinks that RPG game rocks!
If you do then post it up here plz!

[Jackal Iscariot]

it doesnt rock......but its not bad
it took some time for me to made it
damn kratos.... damn angels.... damn them all
and for the first place, they aint angels either!
not a bad game... but lloyd is to much of a goodie 2 shoes...
i want more games where the character re like anti-heroes
more itachis in the game world PLZ!

[SSJ_Link]

I only played a couple hours of it from the begining with a couple of friends. 4-player rpg action! I loved it from what I played, I wish I could play more.

[SSJLance]

I loved this game, i only wish that the sub bosses were harder. Abyssion wasn't that hard, nothing like the weapons on final fantasy 7.

[kevin77]

I played tales of phatasia, tales of destiny and tales of eternia.

Now, i heard some rumors about this game. Can anyone tell me for good whether or not Tales of Symphonia is related to Tales of Phantasia (which is one of my fav rpg all time)?

[aLkeMiSt]

I heard this game has 80 hours of gameplay... thats crazy O.O'

[Jackal Iscariot]

well its long but its not that hard.....80 hours of gameplay?
nah its not, i took me 6 days and i play some hours everyday...
.for me it took 50 hours....of course im used to this kind of game.
i like rpg and all those other kind of japanese-base games
its a good game but still i think they forgot some into it.
the story is not that great and sometimes the game feels to easy.

[Violence Fight]

I loved this game, i only wish that the sub bosses were harder. Abyssion wasn't that hard, nothing like the weapons on final fantasy 7.


yeah, try being board and going after him at level 69-71 or so. that battle took an hour. But still wasn't too hard. All it took was 4 hit combo->StabbityStab technique->Ripped off version of terry bogards Power wave.

to dish out some damage. those powered up dark weapons made lloyd insanely powerful though.

[Sharingan Yoda]

It was cool. I like how all the endless cliches complimented each other so well. It makes for a better story than most people will admit. Zelos is awesome.

[Takahashi Ryosuke]

It looks awesome and can't wait for it to be released on PS2. One of my most wated games in 05.

[zicler]

this game is Gamecube exclusive in USA and Europe. In Japan, thats another story.

[Sharingan Yoda]

It looks awesome and can't wait for it to be released on PS2. One of my most wated games in 05.

Better get a modifier than. Its on PS2 only in Japan. :P

[SSJLance]

Zelos is awsome. What i used to defeat Abyssion was that thing that half everyone's attack power (forgot what it was called, beat it in the summer and let a friend borrow it). It says 80 hours of gameplay, but i beat it in 64 hours and i did as many side quests that i could and leveled up to around 84. Anyway i say if you own a GameCube and like RPG's then you should buy (or at least rent) this game. Now SquareEnix needs to make a good Final Fantasy for the Cube.

[Ryu]

*wail* I want to buy it, but it had to be spesially ordered ;_; *sniffle*
gonna take weeks.. *sigh*

[kage_bunshin_naruto]

i heard this game was pretty good, havent played it yet, but definetly a game i wanna try some time soon :).

[UchihaMaruseru]

i like it, its great but i think its to easy
the puzzle, the enemys
just to easy and that make me sad^^

[Sharingan Yoda]

Try Viewtiful Joe. If you think that's too easy, the congratulations. You have officially mastered the Sharingan eyes.

[slickerish]

question when you die and a friend die and have nothing to bring you back to life. do you have to watch the comps fightt battles or can you take comtrol of them still

[UchihaMaruseru]

press Y for the Menu
then tech
in the tech menu press start while on the name of the char you wanna control
you can choose - manuel, semi-auto , auto - choose manuel/semi-auto
if the choosen char is the 3rd use slot 3 for the player if 4 4

[Chibi_Knight]

I love this game so much! Somone gave me it for x-mas and I cant put it down...... I dont think it has 80 hours..... But if you do everything and take your time it might get close..... I just got to the second disk and I am at about 34 hours I think

[SSJLance]

Speaking of Viewtiful Joe... I got to the last part of the game and it was so hard that I had to use some Action Replay codes! (Yeah I know I suck :P )

[Zohar]

This game is just great! The story might not be that good (although it gets better at the end), but the fights are simply amazing! Especially if you play with your friends.

I played it through with two of my friends, I was playing as Presea and my friends were Lloyd and Genis. The funniest battle, by far, was against Abyssion, I think we were around lvl 60 when we challenged him. If I remember correctly it took us more than 40 minutes to take him down. ^^

[darkspark]

i thought it was a lot of fun, though genis reminds me a lot of kurama for some reason, maybe he'll go berserk in the future and turn into a demon O_o
and hurray for kratos!!!
(i haven't finished the game, yet, lol, i'm still basing this all on the first little bit!!)
but i love the battle setup. being able to attack like that and not have to wait for your turn is awesome. need more games like that, with better storylines...

[Raw64life]

It rules. I beat it twice. 85 hours total.

[Inuyashamish]

i personally loved tales of symphonia. i played it for like 75 hours and loved every minute of it. the ending was a little weak, but the gameplay and characters were perfect. this would be a perfect game to make a sequel of. *HINT* *HINT*

[Deadmon]

I liked this game a lot. =P Beat the game 2 times, and this last one should get me all the costumes.

[Zohar]

i personally loved tales of symphonia. i played it for like 75 hours and loved every minute of it. the ending was a little weak, but the gameplay and characters were perfect. this would be a perfect game to make a sequel of. *HINT* *HINT*

Or a prequel (is that a word? ^^)! Imagine playing as Mitos and the gang, that would rule! :D

[Inner Ninja]

Wanna play it cuz:
1. Heard it was good
2. Scott Menville (Robin on Teen Titans) does the voice of the lead character
3. Anime cutscenes
4. Lengthy, so I'll get my money's worth

upon other reasons.

[MrSnowman]

The story is not the best, however the battles are really fun. Each character plays a different way, and getting 4 people together makes it hella fun.

[hostilecrayon]

Does anyone like this game? If you didn't bother to pick it up, here's a few reasons this game is worth your money for more than one play through.

This time around I'm enjoying Kratos even more than before, because this time I know all of his secrets for a fact instead of just a hunch. I managed to guess them all the first time around, but I wasn't 100% sure. Now it's fun to see both the hints I picked up as well as the ones I missed. Same goes for Zelos. Now, I HATE Zelos, expecially because he's supposed to be Krato's replacement and unlike Kratos, he's an arrogant bastard, but I'm picking up on all of his hints this time that I missed last time. I still managed to guess his secret, but not until right before it was revealed. Now I'm seeing some of the subtlties that I missed. I'm also taking the time to use all of my characters, instead of last time when I had one specific preferred party. And I'm trying to teach them the abilities they didn't get last time. For example, last time, Lloyd was S-type, this time, I'm going for T-type. It's pretty cool to watch them develop stuff they didn't have before. It puts a nice spin on the actual gameplay, giving the battles a nice replay value.

Speaking of the battle system, it's one of the few I enjoy. I'm not utterly thrilled with it, but usually I'm not one for random battles. But this game really puts a whole new spin on the battle system all together. There's different ex-skills to try and create and use, as I already said, their customizable attacks, the real time, usually a hassle, was done extremely well, and there's TONS of extra bonuses to fighting. For example, if Colette has learned the combo ex-skill "Item Finder", you get like 3 times the normal goodies at the end of the battle when she's in your party, which means more often they drop rare items that are good for either customizing or selling off for a good 1,000 Gald usually. Presea and I think Lloyd can learn an ex-skill that I don't recall the name at the moment, but it randomly increases their max HP after battles. That means every few battles, more meat to the HP. That's always a good thing.

And while we're on the subject of ex-skills, I should talk a bit about that as well. The level two personal is useful for almost all the characters. There are only a couple I don't use. Now, I wouldn't trade Zelos' or Presea's personal skill for anything. They are by far the most useful, and as such, the only ones I'll bother discussing. First, Zelos. He thinks he's hot stuff, and the girls fall for it every time. With Zelos' personal skill, every lady you talk to will forfiet an item or Gald. OUTRAGEOUSLY USEFUL. Once he gets that skill, which is easy, just equip him with a level two gem and set the skill to personal, you never have to buy any gels or life bottles or panacea bottles ever again. You get more items than that, but those are the most common, and generally the most useful. Fun thing about it, go out of the town, walk back in, get items all over again. They're different every time too. The same girl won't necessarily give out the same item. You can stock up pretty quick just by going in and out of a town. This comes in real handy when they give you things like Miracle Gels. I think those things are like 3,000 Gald a piece. Way too expensive. As for Presea, she has the personal ability to find food items in a dungeon. So as your strolling through the nearest dungeon, you hear a sound and a light flashes. Voila, you've picked up some food. Food is pretty expensive, and running out is always a downer. So this skill is really handy when in a dungeon, even if she's just picking up extras. The more goodies in a meal, the more HP and TP it restores. Hmm, I said only Zelos and Presea, but Regal's is worth mentioning too. Regal's is simple, and cost effective as well. (Notice a pattern? I'm cheap.) When buying things, the price is reduced to 90%, and when selling, up to 110%. Nice, simple, keeps Gald in my pocket. Gotta love it.

Wow, I suppose this is rather extensive... well, just a few more things to add. The replay value on this game is awsome. See, when you fight, you get something called Grade. It seems pointless and useless the first time through, but it definately is not. It's yet another thing that adds to the immense replay value of this game. When you beat the game, your Grade is counted (This means DON'T spend your Grade on customizing items or Ex Gems!!! ) and you're able to 'buy' things towards your new game. Things like Grade up (A MUST if you see things on the list you want but can't 'afford' ) double EXP, keep your Techs, Recipes, ect ect. It's really quite awsome. I didn't have enough grade to buy even a quarter of what I wanted, and so needless to say, I got Grade up. (I was too poor for double EXP, but I'll get it next time dammit! ) Even better for the replay value is the BAZILLION side quests, most of which you don't even catch on to your first time through. I'd guess to do them all would literally take hundreds of hours. I'm going to do some this time through, but I think I'll really hit the gaming my third time through. Right now, my goal is to get enough grade to buy... well, everything on the list. I'm about 25 hours in, a little less than half. Yes, this game is over 50 hours, normally. My first time through I clocked at 56 hours.

Well, I guess that's all for now. So there's my random impression of Tales of Symphonia Replay Value! I didn't talk about the plot at all really, but that's where the spoilers come in, so I kept it clean. Yay for no spoilers! And even more Yay for a game that I can actually talk in depth about without having to talk about plot! I'll tell you, that's a first. And I barely scratched the surface. Don't have it? BUY IT. Totally awsome game, really amazing. The plot is actually a tiny bit lacking, but you won't notice it over all the fun you're busy having. Besides, the plot, lacking as it may be, is fun, too. But the ending was disappointing.

[Procyon]

Wow. That was an awful lot of stuff to write. I played the game, and I'll have to agree with you. Although I didn't replay it, so I could play different games, I still thought it was a great game.

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

I thought the game was awesome, but I don't think I can stomach playing a 60+ hour game a second time. Especially when I know the big twists.

[Jackal Iscariot]

Im gonna subscribe to this thread becouse i dont have time to check it right now. and yeah, i got the game and its awesome. in fact, i think im gonna get me some fanarts about it.....all i have is a yuri pic XD

[Manji Yoshimitsu]

What, Fanart, I need 'Jackal :P.

ToS is one of the greatest games I've ever played.

It belongs in my row of:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Tales of Symphonia
Resident Evil 4

being from first to last :P.

Great post!

[CrazyMoronX]

I'll play it, you just have to send me your gamecube and a copy of the game. ^_^

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

^
Buying a gamecube just for this game is probably worth it mate.

Plus you can also take a crack at Windwaker and the new Zelda that comin' out some time this year.

[CrazyMoronX]

I was considering getting a GC, there are a few games I wanted on it, but then I heard the revolution can play gc games, and download those n64 games I never played.... I think I can wait...maybe.

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

Aye, I suppose that would be the best idea; money-wise.

It really come down to how long are you willing to wait...

[Jackal Iscariot]

but then I heard the revolution can play gc games, and download those n64 games I never played.... I think I can wait...maybe.
i havent head of that....it can? can revoloution do that? :oh

I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[Kyuubi_Xx]

ToS was an excellent game. My brother got it for Christmas (along with his Gamecube)... he said I could have the first file, and from the moment I started playing I just couldn't put the controller down. It's addictive. :P

I beat the game a while back, but I never replayed it... I just might do that soon, however. :amuse

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

i havent head of that....it can? can revoloution do that? :oh

I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Not that I know of.

The only retro consoles it can play from are nes/snes/n64.

Here's a FAQ on the Nintendo Revolution.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/522/522559p1.html

[CrazyMoronX]

EDIT:
Upon reading further into that link provied, here you go:
"...Nintendo has revealed that Revolution will be backward compatible with GameCube, play both GCN discs and proprietary new 12cm discs, go online via Wi-Fi connections..."

Edited for possible clarifications.

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

That still doesn't mean it will play pc games. :P

Or are you implying something else?

I'm sorry, I'm confused from what your post is trying to point out, accept my apologies in advance if it's my bad.

[omiK]

it does have a lot of replay value cuz of the side quests, i was jsut mad that u got like 10 hours out og the second disk before the game ended.

[Manji Yoshimitsu]

10 Hours? I have 100 Hours on my clock now ... :blink... :huh (from both disks)

[CrazyMoronX]

PC games?!?! WTH are you talking about?!
...but then I heard the revolution can play gc games...

...Nintendo has revealed that Revolution will be backward compatible with GameCube...

I never said anything about PC games.

[Raw64life]

ToS rules. Played it through twice. 85 hours total. Did pretty much every side-quest. Buy this game.

And yes Revolution will play all Gamecube games out of the box.

[korican04]

Is this game coming out for ps2 or is it a different tales of symphonia?

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

PC games?!?! WTH are you talking about?!




I never said anything about PC games.


Haha, sorry about that.

I though it said pc.

My apologies.

[hostilecrayon]

Is this game coming out for ps2 or is it a different tales of symphonia?

It was released in Japan on both consoles, however, I have not heard anything about them bringing it here for the PS2. As far as I know, in America, it will strictly be for the Gamecube.

[Basilimux]

Yep this game is great! I've played through it 3 times and I'm on my fourth. The battle system is really interesting and fun!

[Ikaramashu]

i play throught this game three times this is the best rpg game i havfe played.My fav pairing was LloydXSheena

[horrormike]

Hey everyone, I just bought a Game Cube today and the First game I got was Tales of Symphonia. I haven't played it yet but I've seen my friend play it and it looks awesome. Anyone else play this game? Alsooooo I don't want to flood this board with tons of new threads since I'm new, but can anyone else reccomend me any good GC rpg's? It seems to be kind of lacking but there have to be a few hidden gems. Thanks!

[SSJLance]

Yeah, Tales of Symphonia is an awsome game! I beat it last year, it came out to be around 64 hours. Other GameCube RPG's? I wouldn't really know of any, perhaps Paper Mario, and then there is Baten Kaitos, and Fire Emblem will come out, but there aren't many japanese style RPG's for the Cube.

[Kucheeky Badkuya]

Errr.....A couple poeple told me, "Oh this game has a good fighting engine", so I borrowed it and the game, wasn't that great. There are much better RPG's out there. But, I did like the anime cut-scenes.

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

I loved Tales of Symphonia.

Other class RPG's for the gamecube which I've played are Baten Kaitos and Skies of Arcadia.

[Ssj3_Goku]

Tails fighting system is great reminds me of the great grandia 2's but better :)

[Jedi Mind Tricks]

I've actually got Grandia lying in the house, my younger brother bought it a while back.

Is it any good?

[Ssj3_Goku]

Grandia 1 and 2 are very good games . great voice acting and good stories and great moves i dont think u will be dissapointed.

[Powerman]

Grandia 1 and 2 are very good games . great voice acting and good stories and great moves i dont think u will be dissapointed.


Grandia 2 is my favorite game for dreamcast! Great game that was ported bad the the ps2. It should be a classic and a must play for everyone!

[Leene]

I just finished that game and it was the best game for gamecube ever!:laugh
That game was sad too i would so give it a two thumbs up.:smile-big

[Leene]

There is alot of good games for GC like... umm...:huh harvest moon: a wonderful life is a pretty fun game i guess. and Evolution worlds is fun and then it gets kinda hard.
:smile-big

[Leene]

Umm... is there chat on this website? and how do get a pic. near my name?:huh :blink :S

[Sausage_san]

that game is SO ez i beated like in 5wks and i GOOD ASS GAME!:laugh yes it is you should play it my brother still didnt beat it:laugh

[Toadstule]

I thought it was a fun game. Sure the story was predictable but I still say its one of the best games for gamecube. Especially for an rpg.

[Hero kun]

When I play this game, I get a feeling that I'm in an anime world.

[Not a Ninja]

Lloyd: too stupid

Genis: too annoying

Collete: too flat

Kratos: too obvious

Raine: too violent

Sheena: too fanservicey

Zelos: too awesome

Regal: too angsty

Presea: too dull

[Hero kun]

Why is it always that the main character (Lloyd) always is stupid at first and then smart? This happen alot in anime, like Naruto.

[Shariyakugan]

The game sucked really bad.
Maybe nice for 6year old's.

[Code]

The game sucked really bad.
Maybe nice for 6year old's.
Trolls can be really annoying... it'd be nice if you actually gave a reason.

Anyways, I've been playing ToS for 100+ hours now... though haven't played much recently. Definitely a good game(but not "great"), has a lot of replay value, and nice twists and I'm always a fan of RPGs where decisions you make alter things somewhat. Highest combo so far I've gotten is 104...

[Hero kun]

Trolls can be really annoying... it'd be nice if you actually gave a reason.

Anyways, I've been playing ToS for 100+ hours now... though haven't played much recently. Definitely a good game(but not "great"), has a lot of replay value, and nice twists and I'm always a fan of RPGs where decisions you make alter things somewhat. Highest combo so far I've gotten is 104...
Wow, 104 in combo is great... compare to me.. I only got 90 (with computers)

[Jackal Iscariot]

Trolls can be really annoying... it'd be nice if you actually gave a reason.
Indeed. :pleased


I really didnt like the voices in the had of some of the characters thought. And they game had it moments in where I was like..."oh god so predictable". But still, I liked it.
and I'm always a fan of RPGs where decisions you make alter things somewhat
I loved that!

And the battle system = :spaz

[Jef88]

its a great game :D
i like it but i allready have troubles with boss figths >_< and i'm not soo far in progress
my strategy is prolly wrong as hell

[Code]

Am I the only one who found the game somewhat unpredictable? Well some things you can probably figure out like Kratos being Lloyd's dad though that was still had an element of surprise. Then there's the whole whose on whose side, and the real goal of the various orginization also were somewhat unpredictable IMO.

[Geetay]

One of the best GC games i've ever played. Spent shitloads of hours with my friends playing it.

[General Shino]

They should truly make more multiplayer rpgs like Tales

[Azure-kun]

meh 3 fav characters right fucking here

http://vally8.free.fr/jeux/talesofsymphonia/images/231.jpg


http://vally8.free.fr/jeux/talesofsymphonia/images/023.png



http://vally8.free.fr/jeux/talesofsymphonia/images/221.jpg

yah I've Owned this classic game over & over again, also own the anime movie in japanesse. . .yah, I'm an adict when it comes to tales...

[Sabaku no Rezuri]

lol i just finished the game today^^ though Mithos wasnt a hard last boss at all. i hated that. the story was very predictable, but other than that, the game was very beautiful and i liked it.

[Tapp Zaddaz]

Why is it always that the main character (Lloyd) always is stupid at first and then smart? This happen alot in anime, like Naruto.
Thats called "character development".


In another forum I saw something that said there would be a ToS OVA. I'll post it when I find it.

[Chamcham Trigger]

I love this game. My favorite character is the girl with the Ax. I basically put her as my controlable character, and everyone got cut to pieces until the end. Zellos was cool too.

I still like the Tales of Destiny ones better though.

[Azure-kun]

I love this game. My favorite character is the girl with the Ax. I basically put her as my controlable character, and everyone got cut to pieces until the end. Zellos was cool too.

I still like the Tales of Destiny ones better though.


the girl with the axe is named Presea lol. . .& BTW where'd you get your Copy of tales of destiny & for what system, I gotta get my hands on it :cry

[Chamcham Trigger]

the girl with the axe is named Presea lol. . .& BTW where'd you get your Copy of tales of destiny & for what system, I gotta get my hands on it :cry
That was the name, thanks :amuse

Oh and I got my copy when it first came out...for Tales of destiny 2. As for Tales of Destiny 1, I got it used in a bargin bin at Game stop. I was so freakin lucky that day. I found that, Breath of fire 3, and super puzzle fighter 2 turbo all in the same day at that place....oh and they're for the PSone. The tales series are the foundation for the Star Ocean series btw (battle system wise, not story wise, since they're from two different companies).

[Chemistry]

Awsome RPG, awsome game. If you have a cube and like RPGs, this is a must! Everything about this game is great!

If you're cheap and don't have a cube or moneys, play MMBN6 (emulate or buy, either or), it's probably the best(or second to best if you're in love with MMBN 2 or 3's style) in the series.

[Ssj3_Goku]

this is the best Tales game that i ever played and IMO it was the best tales game this generation.


do not know how Tales of Tempest will be though but thats for DS .

[Azure-kun]

this is the best Tales game that i ever played and IMO it was the best tales game this generation.


do not know how Tales of Tempest will be though but thats for DS .

*eyes widen*

. . .WTF a new Tales fot DS. . .YYYAAAHHH BIATCH IT'S pWNING TIME!!!! DATTEBAYO!!!!!!

[xThehavenx]

I loved this game. Though I only played the first disc it was still Amazing ^^. The GC owners finally got something when that came out.

[AshDragon]

I have over 760 hours in it, 184k+ grade, reached maxed gald, 255 combo (theres a guy with over 100k combo). One thing for sure, the next play through, I will get 100% on everything.

[Wondermilk]

Actually, I AM a tales fan, and I must tell you all now. This was the worst of the batch

IMO, you should all play the SNES version of Tales of Phantasia. That game had a really good storyline and characters. No cliched messes anywhere. The graphics sprites sucked, but it was great. The dubbed GBA game was horrible because they symphoni-ized it and killed the oringinal characters and story...

Another really good Tales game is Destiny and Destiny2 (Not the american destiny 2. The american destiny 2 is really Tales of eternia)

Those were awsome too.

And you guys should really check out tales of the abyss. People who played ToS Says that Tales of the abyss blows it out of the water COMEPLETELY. The battle system is more designed. The characters are totally oringinal (Though the charcter design sucks alot, the personalities and back stories rock though) and the story rocks my socks.

The battle is fully 3-D and has new sets and they actually gave everyone hi-ougis again (Special moves) I have skits subbed on my youtbe account, and I have a few Hi-ougis too. You should also browse around for ANime cut scenes and stuff. The game will be reaching the U.S.A In fall/early winter. Or you could just import it :D Here is my youtube videos to see the mentioned stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=oreokids

I'm not flamming Tales of symphonia... it just that it was the worst of the tales games... Oh, and their is alot of info on the game here

http://boards.ign.com/tales_of_the_abyss/b8570/121395793/p1/?14

[Chemistry]

I heard ToP was EXTREMLY old school, which makes me not want to play it.

[Wondermilk]

Actually, I AM a tales fan, and I must tell you all now. This was the worst of the batch

IMO, you should all play the SNES version of Tales of Phantasia. That game had a really good storyline and characters. No cliched messes anywhere. The graphics sprites sucked, but it was great. The dubbed GBA game was horrible because they symphoni-ized it and killed the oringinal characters and story...

Another really good Tales game is Destiny and Destiny2 (Not the american destiny 2. The american destiny 2 is really Tales of eternia)

Those were awsome too.

And you guys should really check out tales of the abyss. People who played ToS Says that Tales of the abyss blows it out of the water COMEPLETELY. The battle system is more designed. The characters are totally oringinal (Though the charcter design sucks alot, the personalities and back stories rock though) and the story rocks my socks.

The battle is fully 3-D and has new sets and they actually gave everyone hi-ougis again (Special moves) I have skits subbed on my youtbe account, and I have a few Hi-ougis too. You should also browse around for ANime cut scenes and stuff. The game will be reaching the U.S.A In fall/early winter. Or you could just import it :D Here is my youtube videos to see the mentioned stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=oreokids

I'm not flamming Tales of symphonia... it just that it was the worst of the tales games... Oh, and their is alot of info on the game here

http://boards.ign.com/tales_of_the_abyss/b8570/121395793/p1/?14

decided to post a review on tales of symphonia

Oh I dont hate it, it was my first one, I just played better o_o

Well, here is some reasons

1: The characters and story aren't that good, medicore, that it is! :O

Why? It borrows way too many plots from its previous games. Eternia, destiny, phantasia (Though it is phantasia's prequel, so that slides a little). And the characters are just plain...unoringinal. There is nothing about them that sticks out, nothing that's memorable. Why? It's been done before by the other tales game which WERE able to make everyone differernt, but Tos failed to do so.

The characters... bleh.

Lloyd the annoying preacher who CONSTANTLY contradicts himself! For the whole freaking game! The only time his preaching seems right is for the damn moment! Then later he contradicts it!And he rather make the world blow up then let collette die! Screw friendship damn it, Mithos summed it up well!

"No life goes for the sake of dying? What are those exspheres you're wearing?"

OWNED.

NEXT

Collette the slow innocent mary-sue of a heroine. Her tripping was funny ONCE. But then they used it too much! Then in battle...she still sucked. Evryone treated her like god, and that was annoying. What the hell have she done for you? She's just a FAILED Chosen. She just made the game longer with all the kidnapping and all the treasure hunting for EXSPERE PIECES, for her damn crystal DX Without her, the game would've been quick! She does gets points for being memorable for being an annoying character who tripped too much.

Genis was awsome at first, but then he gone emo for Mithos 'betrayal'. Man, he really was going in a really good direction. He was sarcastic, smart, and an asshole to slow/stupid people! His skits were funny because of the faces and the means remarks, but this is when his character has fallen.

"Mithos, lets be best friends FOR-EVER!!"

Right there damn it, right there. Then he frowns, moans and whines Mithos' name, the whole lot. Then he too, becomes as preachy as Lloyd, but for Mithos.

Raine was simply awsome. For her ruin modes were halarious, and the fact she was violent and stuff. I mean, who didn't laugh or thank her for slapping someone for being stupid? Or just simply hit them out of anger? That was great. But that's all she had going for her though.

Kratos... WHY DOES EVERYONE LOVE THIS GUY?! He's all... "Blah... I am all serious and I think I know everything. I brood over being a sucky parent and I am slave to a child who has weird ideals."

A friend of mines helped me realised that, Kratos could've taken the eternal sword and left Mithos o_o I mean really... he IS the pact of oringin o_O And... he really isn't as bad ass and oringinal as everyone says he is... He contradicts himself too much, as does Lloyd

oh and a Judas/Leon rip-off :] Sept Judas/Leon pwnz

Zelos was awsome (to me) cause he was a funny perverted asshole. Though he gets annoying for many people. His back story had no relervence to the plot and really wasn't all that interesting. he was just comic relief. A selfish narcissist, who was also an idiot. Yay. My main fighter.(Who i played as)

Regal: KRATOS REPLACE, KRATOS REPLACE!! Their past is exactly the freaking same! That adds to why the characters aren't oringinal! They both had weird/forbindon love, then all of a sudden their wives get screwed over and turn into monster they had to kill. Then they 'punish' thamselves and freaking brood 24/7. He is Kratos clone that uses his feet.

Presea: EMPTY SHELL. She is really, really blank. She has the least personality out of all of them. Because she was trapped in an exsphere, woooo. Alot of people got screwed by those lame marbles... So, even after being saved, she is still a shell. Oh, and before someone uses the 'axes are oringinal!" defence on me (it happened before) Mary(Tales of destiny), Loni(Tales of destiny2), Barbatos(Tales of destiny 2), and Cless(Tales of phantasia) used axes.

Yggdrasill: Yggyman..yggyman... WHY ARE YOU TAKING DHAOS' COOL POINTS? Everyone goes 'Dhaos looks like Yggdrasill 'Dhaos copies Yggdrasill 'Dhaos is taking his foot steps'. Well you're wrong. Let's get this straight, Dhaos had the whole angel thing way back on tales of phantasia on the PSX(Play station 1 remake of tales of phantasia on the super nintendo). His wings are green and sticks up. Not only did Yggdrasill nearly have the same look as Dhaos' angel form, on the ps2 he took Dhaos' infamous "Dhaos laser" attack and called it "Yggdrasill laser" . Yes, it's supposed to be a nifty 'ooh cameo' but too many tos fans go "omg Dhaos coppied!'

okay, now onto his character.

SPOILER He was once a hero, who cares. He went insane when his sister died, and was all: "OMG I HATE HUMANS!BSTARD!!" So he made chosen after chosen to come up to be a vessle for Martel. They all died like wusses except Collette. So when Martel FINALLY gets in something. She's like "Mithos, wtf are you doing? Stop it and get a life."

So Mithos is like. "OMg wtf! She didn't say that! She didn't! I'm gonna get all pissy and break more stuff! And get another body!! A world for mah sista and me!!"

As you can tell by now, there isn't much to his character, back story, motive, etc. He's just the main villian guy.

Sheena: First, Suzu>Sheena. Sheena lacks any ninja qualities. She's clumsy and very open to people. Not only that, SHE DOESN'T HAVE NINJUTSU! She attacks with cards! She can't summon toads! And she really can't summon! You gotta wait for the chick to be in overdrive! Why does a ninja element summon anyway?? All she was, was a person who denyed her crush for Lloyd and enhance Zelos' perv acts...and fanservice. She was also a tribute to Suzu anyway, look at her successor outfit.

oh, and:

http://narutosource.free.fr/Mitarashi%20Anko2.jpghttp://forums.thegaminguniverse.com/images/avatars/talesofsymphonia/sheena5.gif
:] *shot* (the picture thing is a joke)

The gameplay was rather easy, and on Mania too. The only fun I had was killing abbysession and the ToE characters o_O Also, I did went "OMG MUST GET THEM ALL" crazy on tos and replayed 8 times... but then I just played better. It does get points for bringing me into the series in the first place though. Yeah...

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SOME Tales of Phantasia stuff :O


Sooo I am guessing you guy never saw the anime for Tales of phantasia, right? :D

I loved it ;o;

Here is the opening for it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ovtTUr9OfcA

And here is the game opening for the Playstation version http://youtube.com/watch?v=YY0647RhP44

fun fact: Even the SNES version had voice acting and lyrical music in it :O (In japanese though XD)

annnnd the PSX anime opening :O: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwgQ5VWG3q0

woooo :D

Oh! Another fun fact: Kakashi has Klarth's voice, personality and hobbies :O

Yes, it is true, which is why Klarth/Kakashi is awsome.

[Ssj3_Goku]

I heard ToP was EXTREMLY old school, which makes me not want to play it.


get ToS you will not regret it :nod

IMO it gave me a spark in gaming RPG's when i played it IMO much better than the others in Terms of battle system etc.

EDIT

just realized you said ToP.. thats a good game as well but not as good as ToS IMO.

[AshDragon]

Lol, when I first saw Anko, I was like, she looks like Sheena. Anyways oreo, the problem with your reasons is its just your opinion, your opionin would have been more meaningful if ToS didn't do so well in other forums and thats how you just think of it, I like how everything was done in it, I can't imagine it being different. From reading your reasons, it doesn't look like you understand why some characters have that personality. I think you played too many games and ToS was one of the last ones you played with storylines like that. Really though, your reasons are just how you felt about the game while others felt differently.

[Wondermilk]

Anyways oreo, the problem with your reasons is its just your opinion, your opionin would have been more meaningful if ToS didn't do so well in other forums and thats how you just think of it.

Soooo you're saying since so many people like it, my opinion means nothing? That's like saying every damn one loves final fantasy and kingdom hearts. And if they don't they mean nothing :l

I like how everything was done in it, I can't imagine it being different. From reading your reasons, it doesn't look like you understand why some characters have that personality.

I understood everyone completely. They were poorly made and executed. Since most characters were poorly excuted, the good part of them died out instantly.

I think you played too many games and ToS was one of the last ones you played with storylines like that.

That's my point. IT RIPS OFF TOO MUCH OF ITS BRETHREN! When the previous games were able to come up with great stories, great characters, and so on without ripping one another off :l

Really though, your reasons are just how you felt about the game while others felt differently.

No kidding its about how I felt. And I have facts in there to back me up instead of useless bashing that makes no sense. Others felt differerntly because they hadn't played/researched the previous tales games. They also dismiss the previous ones because they're 2-D (As in on the playstation, PS2, etc) and 'crap graphics' 'oldschool'. Well I hate to break it to those people, ToS' graphics were just as crap. Stiff character movement, repeated hand cycles, etc. It w as just annoying. Blarg

[Key]

WAsn't that good, after I played Tales of phantasia. Symphonia is just another copy or part of the tales series.

[Wondermilk]

okay, watch this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sDU9b-Mns_8

How does it look comapred to the still motions of ToS? Or even this *Watch the whole thing, it's not only a battle)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=By9zIn80Xmo
(Watch the whole thing here too, omg more than the same three animations again like ToS!)

:x

and yes, ToS is just a copy of the other games, it really just is.

[AshDragon]

Wow, its ok alright? When you read my sentences, imagine my tone soft and mellow, I wasn't bashing you at all. Your being too sensitive, you even made up stuff about my intentions in my post. Lets just forget about this, reason why I made those responses about you is that the way you felt about ToS didn't really make sense to me, thats all. I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't intend on doing that.

[Soukyoku]

Isnt this game pretty old? I remember beating it, TOS was one game I like lieterally fell in love with, it was awesome. I was almost heartbroken when I beat it.

[Red Viking]

Man I loved this game. My absolute favorite aspect was the relationship system which changed certain aspects of the story depending on how much the other characters liked Lloyd.

If Kratos liked Lloyd the best, then he would rejoin the party at a certain point when normally he would remain an NPC.

If Sheena liked Lloyd the best, then she would become Lloyd's love interest when normally Lloyd and Colette are paired off and Sheena's crush goes unrequited.

Sure, the main plot remained unaffected, but I enjoyed these variations emmensly.

[RockLee]

I'm going to borrow it again from dementia_ for the Sheena ending. I really want that. I already got the Kratos and the standard ending.

oreokids, you've got good reasons and I understand and agree with a good part of them, but for most ToS is the first Tales game anyone's played. It certainly was for me. I think it's pretty good, apart from the story. Unless people go out and play the other To's, then people aren't going to agree with you. ToS was simply very good, and if it's the worst of the Tales, then the rest must be FF/DQ/KH caliber.

[Wondermilk]

The firsts barely get any reconigtion because

A: They were japanese, but ToP has been translated on the SNES
B: People ignored for their 2D chibi graphics (I.E Tales of eternia dubbing, and Tales of destiny1 dubbing)

Sadly, the only tales of game I dont know about is rebirth D:

edit, And ToS was my first Tales of game also.

I thought it was good, until I played the earlier tales games

and I was like: Woah wtf, ToS copied that, and that, woah it sucks now D:<

[Deathinstinct]

and I was like: Woah wtf, ToS copied that, and that, woah it sucks now D:<Just saying, the majority of ToS is based on the Norse legend of Creation. This includes items (World Tree linking multiple worlds) and names (Asgard, Nifelheim, Heimdall, and Ymir).

[Wondermilk]

Just saying, the majority of ToS is based on the Norse legend of Creation. This includes items (World Tree linking multiple worlds) and names (Asgard, Nifelheim, Heimdall, and Ymir).

The only thing I dont get pissy with the borrowing from ToP.

Cause TOS is the prequel of ToP

[Ha-ri]

Man I loved this game. My absolute favorite aspect was the relationship system which changed certain aspects of the story depending on how much the other characters liked Lloyd.

If Kratos liked Lloyd the best, then he would rejoin the party at a certain point when normally he would remain an NPC.

If Sheena liked Lloyd the best, then she would become Lloyd's love interest when normally Lloyd and Colette are paired off and Sheena's crush goes unrequited.

Sure, the main plot remained unaffected, but I enjoyed these variations emmensly.

How do you make Sheena have the best relationship? I want her to be it, but i always end up with Colette....

[RockLee]

Oh, it's almost impossible, I hear. You pretty much have to rely on a guide to do it.

[Deathinstinct]

How do you make Sheena have the best relationship? I want her to be it, but i always end up with Colette....Similar to getting Barret in FF7, get a guide and insult Collette as often as possible. Unfortunately this will raise Raine real high, so you have to try to take her down as well. You may have to use two games in order to bring Collette and Raine low enough and Sheena high enough.

[AshDragon]

At the Flanoir scene, we can learn so much about Zelos that we never knew. It reminds me of one of the Naruto characters. Its not really hard to get Sheena to have the most interest in you, you even have 3 chances too unless shes the fourth person to like you the most. Use a guide anyways just incase it could be more difficult for you, Ha-ri.

[Sabaku no Rezuri]

Oh wow i recently just beat this game. I loved it so much. I had a good time playing it, though it kind of reminded me a little of Star Ocean. but i mean the story was good, and i loved the anime cut scenes. I kinda wished I hadnt beat it.

[Azure-kun]

Oh, it's almost impossible, I hear. You pretty much have to rely on a guide to do it.

nope, the best way to earn sheena's trust is to beat the renigade ninja of her Village, it's a crappy & long fight since it's solo. you should be at lvl 75 before you fight him.:)

[RockLee]

Becareful with those friendship levels. I got Regal once. Hell if I knew what I did.

[ramseyT]

man i loved this game, finally a good rpg on the cube, and in the summer to.

[AshDragon]

nope, the best way to earn sheena's trust is to beat the renigade ninja of her Village, it's a crappy & long fight since it's solo. you should be at lvl 75 before you fight him.:)
Use onyx gems too for hp bonuses.
Oh wow i recently just beat this game. I loved it so much. I had a good time playing it, though it kind of reminded me a little of Star Ocean. but i mean the story was good, and i loved the anime cut scenes. I kinda wished I hadnt beat it.
You know you can start a new round in it like resident evil 4 right?

[Azure-kun]

Becareful with those friendship levels. I got Regal once. Hell if I knew what I did.

you have to Ignore Genis & raine alot for that one.:oh

[Haruno_Sakura160]

ToS was great... Yeah sure it did ripoff some things from other Tales games... but then again that shouldn't matter because Namco made the Tales series... It's their choice to do what they want with them... Anywho... I enjoyed this game alot I still play it even after beating it 10 or so times especially with my friends! Some of the characters had their ups and downs but they were still pretty kick ass especially Sheena (even if she does look like Anko and has no Ninjutsu... but the cards are an ancient Japanese art so that makes her somewhat of a ninja) and Colette wasn't bad either.... She got kidnapped alot because noone knew she was a failed Chosen! Mithos.... sure the guy was psycho but he had a bad past life... Kratos was sad because he had lost his wife Anna and was devestated that everyone had discriminated Mithos and Martel... Kratos didn't leave Mithos side even though he didn't agree with his ideals until he believed there was no other alternative to stop him except killing Mithos.... Lloyd was a good character as well.... He wanted Colette to save the world until he found out the truth... then he wanted to save her AND save the world as well... He didn't abandon either.... Oreo I'm sorry to say but I think even you would choose a close friend over the world and also try to save the world if you believed there was another way... I'll shut up now I've talked to long

[AshDragon]

Haruno Sakura, you probably should edit that and put a spoiler tag on your paragraph, just incase that there is someone that is reading this and developing an interest to play it. Sheena also ran like a ninja too, with the arms out and head is forward.

[Cesc Fabregas]

ToS is an awesome game!!!!!

finnally the cube gets a GREAT RPG which isnt based on mario!
Kratos is just too sick!

[Red Viking]

How do you make Sheena have the best relationship? I want her to be it, but i always end up with Colette....

Yeah, it can be a bit difficult if you don't have a guide. Basically, be nice to Sheena and always choose her to do something when you have the chance. It's very hard to keep Colette's relationship level down because she pretty much likes EVERYTHING you do. The good thing is that you don't have to worry about who likes Lloyd the best. Just make sure the person you want is one of the top four party members who does. They'll be the ones left behind at Flanoir. They'll come one after the other to ask Lloyd to go out with them. Keep refusing to go out until the person you want asks you.

Anyway, the key to getting the person you want is the skit points, or those glowing circles on the overworld map. Those will significantly increase or decrease a party member's relationship level with Lloyd. Instead of doing them right away, put off doing them until it's time to get a doctor from Flanoir. THEN do the skit points and it will be MUCH easier to control who you want to be paired off with Lloyd. I kept getting Colette at Flanoir until I did her skit points and was mean to her. When I went back, she didn't even show up in the top four.

Some people have some trouble with Sheena's skit points so I'll tell you that the rule of thumb is if she doesn't get super-pissed at you, then you made the right choice.

Here's a list of the skit points taken from the Ending's Guide from GameFAQS:

Colette: Sylvarant - S of Ossa Trail (in desert)
Sylvarant - E of Asgard Ranch (north of mountains)
Sylvarant - W of Hima (around mountains)
Tethe'alla- Thunder Shrine island
Tethe'alla- E part of Sybak/Ozzet continent
Tethe'alla- NE of Toize Mine (N of mountains)

Genis : Sylvarant - SE of Iselia
Sylvarant - N of Izoold (across bridge)
Sylvarant - S of Tower of Salvation (big peninsula)
Tethe'alla- dirt plains on N part of Sybak continent
Tethe'alla- SW of Altamira

Kratos : Sylvarant - S of Izoold (peninsula)
Sylvarant - SW of Luin
Sylvarant - S of Luin
Tethe'alla- SW of Flanoir

Raine : Sylvarant - SW of Triet
Sylvarant - W of Mana Tower (on the other peninsula)
Sylvarant - E of Asgard Ranch (south of mountains)
Tethe'alla- E of Fooji Mountain
Tethe'alla- S of Ymir Forest (right across water from the last one!)

Sheena : Sylvarant - near Palmacosta house of salvation
Sylvarant - SW of Hakonesia Peak (peninsula cut off by mountains)
Tethe'alla- Thunder Shrine island (N of mountains)
Tethe'alla- Mizuho area
Tethe'alla- S of Ymir Forest (peninsula cut off by mountains)

Zelos : Sylvarant - Island N of Palmacosta continent
Sylvarant - Balacruf Island (cut off by mountains)
Tethe'alla- E of Ice Shrine (around mountains)
Tethe'alla- SE of Sybac
Tethe'alla- W of Toize mine (few peninsulas over)

Presea : Sylvarant - SW of Iselia (small area west of mountains)
Sylvarant - Island W of Palmacosta
Tethe'alla- Island SE of Thunder Shrine
Tethe'alla- W of Toize Mine
Tethe'alla- E of Toize Mine (E tip of that continent)

Regal : Sylvarant - Thoda Geyser Island
Sylvarant- Katz Island
Tethe'alla- Island in NW of map
Tethe'alla- Altamira area
Tethe'alla- S of Toize Mine

There's also a guide that shows the numerical values to the relationship changes to every choice in the game. It can be found here. (http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/file/tales_of_symphonia_affection.txt)

Oh, and like Kakashi19 said, equip her with Black Onyx and I should add that you should let the A.I. take over in this fight.

Enjoy! :thumbs

[Cesc Fabregas]

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh FFS!!!! i just got my rierds to fly between the 2 worlds, my gay, dooshbag of a brother overwrites my file and now i have to start from the beginning of tette'ella!!!

[Haruno_Sakura160]

ToS is still good... but I kind of like Tales of Legendia (and Phantasia now that I've played it) better... they just seem to be somewhat better then Symphonia (I'm not dissing Symphonia it's still great! and it was also my first!)

[Mugiwara Luffy]

How many people had trouble getting Kratos to come back at the end of the game. It took me 3 tries to do it

[asuramakinaruto]

Where is the best place to level your characters? My of level of my characters now is 80-85... It give me a hard time to level these characters...

[Mugiwara Luffy]

All you can do is fight at Mitho's castle place

[Mugiwara Luffy]

All you can do is fight at Mitho's castle place

[asuramakinaruto]

All you can do is fight at Mitho's castle place

Yah! I always do that, but I am starting to get bored doing that... :nod

[Sena Kobayakawa]

How many people had trouble getting Kratos to come back at the end of the game. It took me 3 tries to do it

Heh, I got Krato just to fight Zelos. (And for the judgment costume)

[Mugiwara Luffy]

the judgement costume rocks It's probably the best costume change in the game except for sheena's swimsuit one

[Nejie]

My favorite character is raine coz it keeps buffing me and healing me, she is so useful

[Sena Kobayakawa]

Revitalize and Nurse help so much during the end of the game.

[asuramakinaruto]

Yup, that's right! and she is useful resurrecting your character when they are dead

[Yuffie]

I love ToS best rpg ever! and even if I am a girl I don't think Zelos is that bad...Sheena is pretty cool too!

[Kakashi_A]

Heh, heh, kind of an old thread eh? Anyway, I really love this game. In my top 10 list, it's in 3rd place, after RE4, 2nd place, and Zelda:OoT, my number one game. I spent like, 100 hours playing the game in just 1 week during last year's summer.

[Champloon]

Awesome Game!

Although i didnt like the the camera movement for the co op....

[rockst☆r sin]

This is still my favorite Tales game ever. I've played so many but it never compares to ToS. I thought that Tales of the Abyss might do it for me but I was wrong.

[Biscuits]

This is one of the most underrated games of the last generation.
My little brother was playing this earlier..
Lloyd is such a cheese in this game,Sword rain is all you need.

[Nexas]

This is one of the most underrated games of the last generation.
My little brother was playing this earlier..
Lloyd is such a cheese in this game,Sword rain is all you need.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Completly disagree. Though ToS is a good game I think its terribly overated. Its the most mainstream tales game. The story was average at best, and I can't go back to to the gameplay after Abyss.